WEBVTT - Christmas Island, Part 1: Crabs Rule Everything Around Me

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<v Speaker 1>Towards the Island of Christmas, and all across the land

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<v Speaker 1>the red crabs were flowing across root Street and sand

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<v Speaker 1>like a red tide of scuttling, claw snapping doom. They

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<v Speaker 1>streamed through my front door and into my rooms. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>in the forests the giants, they're crawled coconut crabs, hulking

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<v Speaker 1>monsters with claws. They hunted for carrion crab bird and

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<v Speaker 1>ratted and gobbled it up, rancid, sinew and fat. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm Joe McCormick, and

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<v Speaker 1>getting in that holiday spirit. We're gonna be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>crab Horror. Yes, this is this pair of episodes. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been looking forward to all year. This has been my

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<v Speaker 1>my goal. I forget when, but earlier in the year

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading about Christmas Island and and the various

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<v Speaker 1>creatures that that call it home, and I realized, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to do this episode for Christmas, even though this

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<v Speaker 1>really has nothing to do with Christmas, no, virtually nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with Christmas, though I do enjoy um like

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<v Speaker 1>forcing decapods upon Christmas and uh and and and at

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<v Speaker 1>least in my mind, allowing them to take over the

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<v Speaker 1>holiday decapods with bows of all? Is it bows? I

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<v Speaker 1>should have said clause of glory? Either way, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday zeal. Now, so we're going to be going

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<v Speaker 1>to crab Horror Island, and there are many wonderful movies

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe we'll save it for next time to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about our favorite Crab Island movies. But the giant crab

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite kind of movie monsters, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've always got to have their own island of terror,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, and and so in discussing Christmas Island and

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<v Speaker 1>these two episodes, we're going to talk about crabs or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, decapods anyway that are either enormous, uh, singularly

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<v Speaker 1>and enormous or collectively enormous. I think the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to focus on the collectively enormous, and the

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<v Speaker 1>second episode will focus on the decapods who are individually enormous. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this first episode is going to focus on the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Island Red crab. Robert, will you take me on a

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<v Speaker 1>mystical adventure to crab Horror Island? Yes, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island, so named. It's in the Indian Ocean, about

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and fifty kilometers or two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>miles south of Java and Sumatra and around uh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see one thou fifty kilometers or nine hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>miles northwest of the closest point on the Australian mainland.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically part of Australia though right it is an Australian

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<v Speaker 1>external territory. It has an area of a hundred five

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<v Speaker 1>square kilometers or fifty two square miles, so not huge, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not a big place at all. It's a very old,

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<v Speaker 1>though very old volcanic seamount island. It was first visited

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<v Speaker 1>by Europeans in sixty three Captain William Minors of the

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<v Speaker 1>Royal Mary and English East India Company vessel. He just

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<v Speaker 1>named the island when he sailed past it on Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Day of that year. That's that's the only Christmas high

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<v Speaker 1>end there he didn't find, you know, and naturally occurring

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree there. Uh, there's no wasn't where the elf

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<v Speaker 1>workshop was exactly. There's there's nothing else about it except

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<v Speaker 1>it was Christmas Day when he found it. It could

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<v Speaker 1>have easily it could have easily turned out to be

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Eve Island or Boxing Day Island or Halloween Island.

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<v Speaker 1>That would perhaps be a little more appropriate. Yeah. Uh So.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the cool things about this place is that

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<v Speaker 1>when when they were able to take a closer look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, they realized that it was uninhabited, at least

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<v Speaker 1>by humans. So it's obvious that what makes this island

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<v Speaker 1>unique is not anything about the indigenous culture or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>since it was apparently uninhabited originally, but it was not

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<v Speaker 1>uninhabited by wildlife. Fest we've made clear the wildlife there

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<v Speaker 1>was of a terrific scuttling variety, oh correct. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the really cool things about the scuttling life on

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island it is that so much of it is

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<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Island. We're talking about land crabs, crabs that

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<v Speaker 1>need only returned to the water to mate, but mostly

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<v Speaker 1>live on land. And you'll find these elsewhere. To be sure,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not the only place land crabs can be found.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And we're we're talking about both true crabs as

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<v Speaker 1>well as hermit crabs here. Hermit crabs are decapods, but

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<v Speaker 1>not true crabs. But forgive us as we as we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about them in these episodes, I will probably end

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<v Speaker 1>up calling them both crabs in the unofficial sense. The

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island is home to more land crabs than anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>else on Earth. We're talking more than twenty terrestrial and

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<v Speaker 1>semi terrestrial crabs species, plus a hundred and sixties species

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<v Speaker 1>or thereabouts in the reefs and shallows around the island. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so Robert tell me a little bit about crabs. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just to refresh everybody, crabs are crustaceans. But we should

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<v Speaker 1>be clear that again, there are true crabs of the

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<v Speaker 1>decapoda soap order bracci ura, which means small tail um,

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<v Speaker 1>which references their smaller abdomen. And then there are the

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<v Speaker 1>ano mora or mixed tail crabs, which included hermits and

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<v Speaker 1>as we'll discuss later in the second episode, robber crabs.

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<v Speaker 1>But still again we're often going to refer to them

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<v Speaker 1>both as crabs in the unofficial sense. And these were

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<v Speaker 1>these are ancient creatures. These were the first animals to

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<v Speaker 1>develop true legs, none of those false legs. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we we've talked about crabs on the show before. I

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<v Speaker 1>think back to our episode about Carl Sagan and the

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<v Speaker 1>Samurai Crabs. So so hopefully everyone is is on board

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<v Speaker 1>for two more episodes of of crab based content. But

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not just the varieties of crab and crab

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<v Speaker 1>like creatures that live on Christmas Island that make it

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<v Speaker 1>crab Island Earth, Uh, it is is the number of

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<v Speaker 1>a particular species of crab there, the Christmas Silelan red crab,

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<v Speaker 1>where there are supposedly tens of millions of these crabs

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<v Speaker 1>on the island. And this is not a big island. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a hundred thirty five square kilometers, right, a small island.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet yeah, I've seen the figures of like fifty

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<v Speaker 1>million of these creatures living, living in the forest, living,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty much all over the island. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a reduced number. I remember we watched a documentary about

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<v Speaker 1>the island from the nineteen eighties that suggested, at the

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<v Speaker 1>time it was believed that there were over a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million of the crabs. They're right. That was a night

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<v Speaker 1>David Attenborough narrated special titled Kingdom of the Crab, great title,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a great one to watch if you get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance, because it really shows off what makes this

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<v Speaker 1>island visually astounding, but it's the sheer numbers of the

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<v Speaker 1>crabs and the Christmas Island red crab is pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>found only on Christmas Island. Yeah, I think maybe on

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<v Speaker 1>another nearby island or island group, but they're not found

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<v Speaker 1>like all over the place. So I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>come back to the human history for a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>where we we explore the red uh crab in depth.

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<v Speaker 1>So the most you know, essential thing about human history

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<v Speaker 1>of Christmas Island is that for the longest there seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have been none. It is a geographically isolated place

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<v Speaker 1>now from everything I've read so far, and it's always

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<v Speaker 1>possible on missing something, but there's no evidence that humans

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<v Speaker 1>ever visited the place before the seventeenth century. See this.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite Java being again only two miles away, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>short enough distance for modern humans anyway that boats of

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<v Speaker 1>asylum seekers frequently make it their point of destination in

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<v Speaker 1>reaching Australia, because again it's an Australian external territory, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you reach Christmas Island, you are, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a legal sense, in Australia. However, it's also worth pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out that the seas can be deadly uh, surrounding Christmas Island,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are stories out there boats of asylum seekers

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<v Speaker 1>breaking on the rocky coast with lethal results. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've read about this in cases of the early visitors

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<v Speaker 1>to the island. Also that you know, it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dangerous to land there. And for example, there was

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<v Speaker 1>one case where I read that a crew was driven

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<v Speaker 1>to land there because there was scurvy on the ship

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<v Speaker 1>and it was only because the disease had gotten so

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<v Speaker 1>bad that they risked trying to land. Yeah, that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the typical story book reasons for landing on an

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<v Speaker 1>uninhabited island with a strange crab population. Yeah, but out

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<v Speaker 1>of the scurvy pan into the crabs. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know it, but but it is. It is weird to

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<v Speaker 1>think about places like this, places where where humans just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take up residents. And of course you have to,

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<v Speaker 1>of course realize that moving to an isolated island is

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult proposition, like you've really got to have a

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<v Speaker 1>reason to go there and a reason to stay there,

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<v Speaker 1>and a way to um to to safely arrived there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But still, you know, it's enough to make

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<v Speaker 1>one wonder. For instance, Homo Erectus or a Java Man

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<v Speaker 1>lived on the island of Java, relatively close by one

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<v Speaker 1>point seven million years ago. Humans practiced agriculture there on

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<v Speaker 1>Java as early as b C. Java was known to

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<v Speaker 1>traders and other powers. The Kingdom of Mataram ruled there

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<v Speaker 1>until they lost power to the Dutch East India Company

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<v Speaker 1>in seventy nine and became a vassal state of the

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<v Speaker 1>company UM, a statement that I think really drives home

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<v Speaker 1>the power of the East India Company UM, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you would have a vassal state to a corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a job. My point is that I just

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<v Speaker 1>find it so enthralling that this island remained either free

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<v Speaker 1>of human contact for so long or only encountered minimal influence.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's I guess it's possible that it's at

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<v Speaker 1>some point somebody wound up there by purpose or accident

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't didn't stay long enough to leave a footprint,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Galapagos Islands or another example of this, though

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<v Speaker 1>there there have been at least disputed claims of Inca

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<v Speaker 1>artifacts found on the Galapacos Islands, perhaps due to Inca

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<v Speaker 1>sailors being blown off course. The statials in the Indian

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<v Speaker 1>Ocean and are another example of islands that were uninhabited

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<v Speaker 1>through most of recorded history, though they may have been

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<v Speaker 1>visited by early seafares as well, depending on who you

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<v Speaker 1>talked to. But with Christmas Island, I found no such thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and not even a crackpot theory. So it really does

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<v Speaker 1>seem as if humans, not even the Vikings, went their

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<v Speaker 1>theory by no Vikings or anything. So it really does

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<v Speaker 1>seem that nobody visited it until the seventeenth century, with

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest sighting I think having occurred in sixteen fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Now after that, of course, it actually did become an

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<v Speaker 1>economically significant island because of mineral deposits discovered there. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was explored by British naturalist John Murray, and this

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<v Speaker 1>was eighteen seventy two. He discovered that there were phosphate

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<v Speaker 1>deposits on the island, which would play a key role

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<v Speaker 1>in the island's future. Exportation of phosphate begin in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>by the Christmas Island Phosphate Company, and this activity led

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<v Speaker 1>to the loss of twenty of the island's rainforest area. Yeah, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>phosphate was important in the late eight hundreds because it

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<v Speaker 1>had been discovered by that time that phosphate, when treated

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<v Speaker 1>with sulfuric acid, could be used as an ingredient in

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<v Speaker 1>plant food, and of course synthetic fertilizers became very important

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<v Speaker 1>in the development of commercial agriculture at scale, and so

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<v Speaker 1>now there was a reason and economic reason for people

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<v Speaker 1>to not only go to Christmas Island but to work there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so settlement began in the eighteen eighties. Uh later on,

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<v Speaker 1>during the Second World War there was a Japanese occupation

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<v Speaker 1>of the island from ninety five, and in the post

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<v Speaker 1>war period it was administered by Singapore, which was then

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<v Speaker 1>a British colony, and then Australia purchased the island for

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<v Speaker 1>two point nine million pounds on January one, nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight day that's known as Territory Day on Christmas Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Today it has around I've read two thousand full time

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<v Speaker 1>human residents and the ethnic makeup is mostly Chinese in

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<v Speaker 1>meleay Um originally brought in for labor. Now a big

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<v Speaker 1>poor scan of the land of the island today is

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<v Speaker 1>basically a national park. It's like a big wildlife preservation area. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds of its land mass are national park. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>and a big part of the wildlife significance here is

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<v Speaker 1>the Christmas Island red crabs. So I guess we should

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<v Speaker 1>dive headfirst into a puddle of crabs after we come

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<v Speaker 1>back from a break. Alright, we're back, so it is

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<v Speaker 1>time to dive into a pit of crabs. The Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Island red crab or get Karcodia natalis. And these are

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<v Speaker 1>crabs that live, as we mentioned earlier, primarily not in

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, not even on the shoreline, but in inland forests.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you picture Christmas Island, it's sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>terraced rainforest. It's a you know, volcanic island. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>some steep slopes that go up onto rainforest covered terraces,

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<v Speaker 1>and the crabs go all the way up into the

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<v Speaker 1>forests and make their burrows inland. Yeah, we're talking against

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<v Speaker 1>something like fifty million of these a little land well

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<v Speaker 1>ers uh in the forest chewing up leaf litter. And

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<v Speaker 1>here on Christmas Island they are the chief decay agents

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<v Speaker 1>for that leaf litter. I've seen estimates of something like

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand crabs per acre to keep the leaf litter down. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they primarily feed on plant matter like you say,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is going to be leaf litter. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>things like fallen fruits and seeds, flowers, et cetera. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're also crabs after all, so you might not be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to learn that they are opportunistic omnivores. My favorite

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<v Speaker 1>pairs of words. So if you get a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of meat from say another dead red crab or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that presenting itself, this is a legitimate score, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will say, gentlemen, get that in my mouth parts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to masticate. But the crabs are important for

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<v Speaker 1>the maintenance of the ecosystem in multiple ways. So they

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<v Speaker 1>clear the forest floor of like leaf litter, but also

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<v Speaker 1>saplings and flowers other plants that would create dense underbrush,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they keep the forest floors lean, and this

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<v Speaker 1>actually helps contribute to forest biodiversity. They also prevent the

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<v Speaker 1>soil from being packed too densely because of the burrows

0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:12.640
<v Speaker 1>they dig. They're like natural soil tillers. They turn the soil,

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<v Speaker 1>and this also helps contribute to forest biodiversity. But so

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<v Speaker 1>we might have a pretty good sense of what the

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<v Speaker 1>life of an ocean dwelling crab is like. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the life of a land crab like crabs, as you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine, in between chewing up things in their environment

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<v Speaker 1>and eating it, they have to stay moist and this means,

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<v Speaker 1>for one thing, staying out of the direct sun. So

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<v Speaker 1>the red crabs on Christmas Island like to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the shady forests and they live in these dugout burrows

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<v Speaker 1>that they can hide from the sun in and they

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<v Speaker 1>have guilt chambers that have adapted for terrestrial life. They

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep them moist, and they also I love this,

0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.840
<v Speaker 1>they have to manually wet their eye stalks. Yes, I

0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:51.640
<v Speaker 1>love this. It's pretty cool to watch if you can

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<v Speaker 1>find video of this. So their eyes talks emerge from

0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.720
<v Speaker 1>little cups in their carapace, and they don't have eyelids

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and by the way, just try to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>life without eyelids. Kind of a terror. So they wet

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<v Speaker 1>and wash their eyes by filling their eye cups up

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<v Speaker 1>with drops of water and then dipping their eyestalks down

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<v Speaker 1>into the cups to rinse them off. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is This is one of the great things about

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<v Speaker 1>watching any crab close up, but especially with the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>crabs is those tiny little sort of methodical movements that

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<v Speaker 1>you see take place with their mouth parts and their

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes stalks totally. Now, despite their life in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>they still have to return to the sea to spawn,

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<v Speaker 1>and this results in a vast scuttling migration that is

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<v Speaker 1>truly unlike anything else on earth. This is why you

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<v Speaker 1>will you will see. You know, there's so many different

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries about Christmas Island. That's why there's so much great

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<v Speaker 1>footage because they they go on these enormous migrations and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking a several kilometer journey each year. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is crab Apocalypse. This is where the real show is

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<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Eye. And so around the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>rainy season, which is sometime October through December, the red

0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.560
<v Speaker 1>crabs begin this migration for their breeding cycle. And the

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<v Speaker 1>migration begins with the males, usually the biggest males, who

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<v Speaker 1>will crawl out over land from their forest burrows to

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<v Speaker 1>the shore where they're going to eventually get there and

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<v Speaker 1>dig new burrows for mating. And as the males make

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<v Speaker 1>this journey, the females eventually joined them in the journey

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<v Speaker 1>and they march towards the sea. Now, once the crabs

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<v Speaker 1>reached the shore, but before they dig their burrows to mate, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they typically wash themselves off in seawater, though strangely enough,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to be careful not to get fully sucked

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<v Speaker 1>out into the sea because these are land dwelling crabs.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how they've evolved, and they can neither breathe underwater,

0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.920
<v Speaker 1>nor can they swim very well. These are crabs who

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<v Speaker 1>are not very good at being crabs. Yeah, so the

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<v Speaker 1>truly aquatic crabs in the neighborhood are just probably watching

0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.840
<v Speaker 1>this in halfing at them. But there's so many of them.

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<v Speaker 1>How could you laugh at them? Because they could really

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<v Speaker 1>gang up on you if they got a hold of

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<v Speaker 1>your right But so they would rinse themselves off in

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<v Speaker 1>the sea water. And then the males dig the burrows. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when they dig the burrows, usually they'll go up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit from the beach and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>forested areas just right by the beach, and they'll dig

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<v Speaker 1>these burrows. And sometimes the males have to defend their

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<v Speaker 1>burrows from other males, who of course think, hey, why

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<v Speaker 1>dig one when you can just claim somebody else's. So

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<v Speaker 1>there are sometimes these fights and dominance displays, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of claw waving to keep the burrows secure, and then

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<v Speaker 1>of course the females come in and they will find

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<v Speaker 1>a male with a burrow and initiate the mating. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you've never watched crabs mating before,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the funnier looking types of animal sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just crabs look funny no matter what

0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.280
<v Speaker 1>they're doing. But also if you can just watch their

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<v Speaker 1>eyes while they're mating, it's really something special. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like two googly eyed robots trying to be sexy

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<v Speaker 1>at each other and then throwing some claws and swiveling

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<v Speaker 1>mouth parts. It's just awesome. Now you mentioned the waving

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<v Speaker 1>of the clause, I want to I was reading a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about crab clause in Douglas j Imland's book

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<v Speaker 1>Animal Weapons. Uh and he goes. He spends a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time talking about, you know, how these are

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<v Speaker 1>high energy adaptations packed with powerful muscles. They need to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to break through the exo skeletons of of

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<v Speaker 1>rival males in many cases. Uh And he mostly looks

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<v Speaker 1>at fiddler crabs in this book. But but, but it's

0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:32.600
<v Speaker 1>interesting stuff. The economics of not only having growing, evolving

0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:36.520
<v Speaker 1>gigantic class, but waving them around, because that's that's part

0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.320
<v Speaker 1>of having the cleaving clause or a claw, is to

0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:44.080
<v Speaker 1>wave that sucker around, yeah, or like flexing your muscles,

0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.280
<v Speaker 1>like showing off the guns. Yeah, you have to show

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<v Speaker 1>off the guns. That's that's part of having them, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the female will generally find a male and a

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<v Speaker 1>male with the borrow and they will mate, and then

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<v Speaker 1>after mating, what the males do is they just pack

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<v Speaker 1>up and headback inland. Their work is done, and they

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<v Speaker 1>leave the females by themselves in the seaside burrows. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's another interesting thing about this. Okay, so the red

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<v Speaker 1>crabs are sort of moon worshiping druids. The breeding migration

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<v Speaker 1>has to be timed exactly according to the cycle of

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<v Speaker 1>the moon because the cycle of the moon affects the tides.

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<v Speaker 1>So the adult crabs arrive at the shore and then

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<v Speaker 1>they mate, and after mating, the females produce eggs within

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<v Speaker 1>about three days, and then they remain in their burrows

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<v Speaker 1>for another twelve or thirteen days. And after this they

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<v Speaker 1>emerge from the hole in the ground and they release

0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.600
<v Speaker 1>their eggs into the sea water. And it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be timed exactly at the turn of high tide as

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<v Speaker 1>the moon goes from its last quarter to a new moon.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is because it's when the tide conditions are

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<v Speaker 1>just right to be releasing uh the young. But if

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<v Speaker 1>the migration is delayed by weather so that breeding can't

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<v Speaker 1>be timed exactly right with the phases of the moon,

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<v Speaker 1>the crabs will just wait. They'll just wait until the

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<v Speaker 1>next month to breed because it's not it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>the moon isn't right. So when the time is right,

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<v Speaker 1>the females release their eggs acts, which looks kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a weird foamy sponge that they carry on the

0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 1>underside of their bodies. They release these eggs acts into

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<v Speaker 1>the water. Yet again, I can't help but notice that

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<v Speaker 1>my wonder at these animals is combined with hilarity on

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this, because in some cases, the female crabs have

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<v Speaker 1>to release their eggs into like rough surf while clinging

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<v Speaker 1>to rocks above the water, and they're trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>careful not to fall in. And when you see footage

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<v Speaker 1>of this, the way they're just frantically shaking their bodies

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to knock the eggs acts off, dumping thousands of eggs

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<v Speaker 1>off a cliff. I can't help but laugh. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also sometimes they'll they'll go into the surf

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<v Speaker 1>on a beach and you'll see them like raising their

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<v Speaker 1>claws and shaking their bodies, like get off, just dumping

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<v Speaker 1>all these eggs off into the water. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's funny to me. Well, by human comparisons, they're

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not great moms, but by but by Christmas Island

0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Red Crab standards, moms of the Year. Yeah, exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>that this does make me think about the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>we anthropomorphize good parenting. I want to come back to

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 1>that in just a minute. So the eggs are released

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<v Speaker 1>into the surf and they hatch pretty much immediately, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got these hatchling crab larvae that live in

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<v Speaker 1>the water for about a month, transforming through large larval stages,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they returned the shore in this seething foam

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<v Speaker 1>of what looks like pink ants. This is also just

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<v Speaker 1>astonishing to see, like the original migration from the forest

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to the shore with the beaches and rocks covered in

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<v Speaker 1>this surging pink shag carpet of tiny millimeter sized baby crabs.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they molt, and immediately after molting, they they

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<v Speaker 1>are committed to an air breathing life on land, and

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<v Speaker 1>they travel inland to do as their ancestors did before them.

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<v Speaker 1>And this growth from about a five millimeter baby crab

0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.880
<v Speaker 1>stage to adulthood usually takes about four years, during which

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<v Speaker 1>time they mostly tend to hide out undercover until they

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<v Speaker 1>get big enough to fend for themselves. But yeah, back

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<v Speaker 1>to this idea about the way we look at non

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 1>human animals and tend to to judge their parenting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's inherently what I was doing when I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny just watching the mother crabs chuck their eggs off

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:22.639
<v Speaker 1>a cliff. But it's like it's hilarious watching a crab

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<v Speaker 1>vigorously shake its body to knock all the eggs off

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But it's because we've so deeply internalized the

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<v Speaker 1>brood protection tendencies of mammals. Mammals tend to keep their

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<v Speaker 1>offspring close and take care of them for for like

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<v Speaker 1>extended periods of time while they mature, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>make no sense for crabs to do. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, it is just mechanically the case, because the

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>eggs need to hatch in the water. That's what chemically

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and mechanically they do, but also mathematically, the parents have

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different relationship with their offspring. Mammals tend to produce,

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, relatively small numbers of offspring and invest a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of energy into caring for and protecting them. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to do a little bit of rough

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.119
<v Speaker 1>math about the red crabs. So let's assume there are

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.679
<v Speaker 1>fifty million adult red crabs on the island, and then

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>you've got mated pairs, and each mated pair of adult

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>crabs produces tens of thousands of eggs. I've seen a

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>common figure of a hundred thousand eggs per female crab sited.

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.399
<v Speaker 1>So if fifty million crabs made it and produced twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five million eggs sponges, and each of those had a

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand eggs in it, and all those eggs survived

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to adulthood, that would be two trillion, five hundred billion crabs. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island is about a hundred and thirty five square kilometers.

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<v Speaker 1>If my math is right, this means that just after

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<v Speaker 1>one year there would be a Christmas Island would have

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen point five billion crabs per square kilometer. So you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>as a red crab mom, you have to be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to let some of those crabs go because you have

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you have the numbers on your side, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a totally different way of of have a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship between generations, right. They're going for for numbers. You know,

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it's quantity rather than quality. And it's just impossible for

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.639
<v Speaker 1>all those young to sustainably survive. Even if a decent

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.919
<v Speaker 1>fraction of them survived, it would be ridiculous. Only a

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>tiny fraction of them can possibly make it to adulthood

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in any ecologically sustainable way. And so most that get

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 1>dumped out into the water to hatch never make it

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>back to shore alive. They get washed out to sea,

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>never to return. Apparently, whale sharks migrate to the Christmas

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>Island area to eat red crab larvae when they hatch,

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and among those that do make it back to the

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>beach in that in that you know foamy pink shag

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.160
<v Speaker 1>carpet I mentioned, they're obviously going to be pretty easy

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>prey at that stage too. You can even sometimes see

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen footage of this of adult red crabs just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of shoveling clawfulls of young red crabs into their mouths,

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<v Speaker 1>because hey, what are the chances that these are mine?

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty slim. Again, it's a numbers game. Well. Plus,

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like they're just against so many of them. It's

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>like if you make way too much a pancake batter, Uh,

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you may treat yourself to a few spoonfuls of unclid

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 1>pancake batter. I mean, why not, it's there. You can

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 1>only make so many pancakes. You can make similar argument.

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, look, if I made all of this

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 1>into pancakes, our house would be packed with pancakes six

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>ft high exactly. But anyway, given this kind of life cycle,

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>in these kind of odds, the way to be a

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.199
<v Speaker 1>good parent is to do exactly what the female crabs do.

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>They shake them off into the water where they've got

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a chance, and then they call it a day. There's

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>nothing more you can do at that point. And if

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>somehow you were still around when they hatched and molted,

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>who knows, you might just gobble them up. So, despite

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.959
<v Speaker 1>how funny it looks, I rebuke my instincts. I do

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>not think that the red crabs are bad parents. I

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 1>think they're awesome crab parents. All right, we're gonna take

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>a quick break, and when we come back, we're going

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to get into the human element. What happens when we

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>have the human element to the red crab element. Thank alright,

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>we're back now. We discussed earlier how crazy these migrations are.

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 1>You when the island can, sometimes in areas, become just

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>thick with crabs that are moving from forest to shore

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>or returning from shore to forest. And this doesn't even

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>take into consideration the fact that sometimes there are multiple

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>waves of migration during the same year. So you've got

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>crabs going both ways. Like one set of crabs they

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 1>moved down to the shore, and then there's another, uh

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, trigger of the rainy season, another set of

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>crabs they start moving to the shore, and then the

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>other ones are going home. So you can have crabs

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>going this way, crabs going that way. There on the

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.439
<v Speaker 1>golf course, there on the streets, there in the grocery store.

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it can become quite thick with crabs on

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island. And yet there are people here, that's right,

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and those people have vehicles that they also have pets. Uh,

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.719
<v Speaker 1>we'll get into some of those complications in a bit,

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 1>but just the roads. You're talking about something like a

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>million crabs a year crushed by road traffic on Christmas Island,

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>but that's still only gonna shake out to something like

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>one percent of the population. And the dead, by the way,

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>are apparently swiftly cannibalized. Again, crabs. Crabs are gonna do

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>what crabs are gonna do. No. I mentioned earlier that

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>there's this great old British TV documentary called Kingdom of

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 1>the Crabs and narrated by David Attenborough from nineteen I think, yeah,

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that was the same year that we got John Carpenters

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>They Live, Killer Clowns from Outer Space, The Blob the remake,

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the really cool eighties remake, as well as of course

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Mac and Me. Well, this is right up there with those.

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>But it's got so many great moments. And one of

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the best moments from it is when you're watching hundreds

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>of crabs scuttling across a pair of railroad tracks and

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>then a train emerges in the background and it's barreling

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>towards the crab crossing, and then the crabs show no

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>sign of getting out of the way, and then the

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>train conductor starts blowing his horn at the crabs as

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>if that's going to deter them. I guess it's like

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>when people like they stop in the road because the

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>turtle is crossing and they honked their horn at it.

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I never actually haunt my hornets, they squirrels, chipmunks, but

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I will almost wreck my vehicle to avoid them. But

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I I guess that's human nature. Like you don't want

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>to squish crabs unnecessarily. I mean maybe some people do.

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>There are probably a few people on the island who

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of get off on it. Well, I've read that

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>it can. It can also hurt your tires. Yeah, you

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>have people with flat tires due to the crabs. Probably

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>hurts trains less, probably, Uh. But the humans have had

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>to put in place many steps to help the crabs

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>cope with roads and tracks and the other ways that

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>we have unfortunately disrupted their migration zones. I mean, it's

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>not the crabs fault, right, They didn't ask us to

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>put a road there, but railroad tracks there to do

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. So these adaptations are are

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting. They include barriers of course around the edges

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of roads and put walls around the roads to keep

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the crabs from walking onto the roads, and these lead

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to sort of crab funnels that route the crabs to

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>specially designs safe crossings, so you might have an underpass

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>with a great on top of it, or even there's

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>even a five meter high crab bridge climbable by crab

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to help them over one stretch of road. Oh yeah,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and you included a picture of these in our notes.

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty incredible because it looks like one of the

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>recognizers those enemy ships in the Tron movies. Yeah, it

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>looks like like that the big clamp that comes down

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>on top of you, right, except instead of being made

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>out of brightly colored light, it's covered in brightly colored

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>red crabs right now. Interestingly enough, early accounts of Christmas

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Island make no real mention of the crab hoardz. So

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you could you can look at that one of two ways, right, Well,

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>either it didn't occur in this at least with the

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>same at the same level, or they just forgot to

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>mention it, which seems unlikely, but maybe they didn't witness it. Well,

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it's true too, but there is this suspected link between

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the current levels and the decent levels of of of

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the red crab population with the extinction of two species

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>of rat that were on the island when Europeans first arrived.

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and it's possible that these two species of

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>rat may have kept the populations more in check. What

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>are these rats alright? One is called mcclear's rat or

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>memor Rattis McCleary and the other is the bulldog rat

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>or Rattus nativitatis. And those are just two of only

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>five native mammal species on Christmas Island to have been

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>officially listed as extinct since human showed up. That being

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>both of these rats, and the reason that they went extinct,

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's probably because exotic rodents were brought in by

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>early human colonizers or brought in. I would say they

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>just came along with let rats do. Okay, So the

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>ideas that humans brought different kinds of rodents, those rodents

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 1>out competed the native rodents, but those rodents weren't as

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.479
<v Speaker 1>much of a competition with the red crabs. Well, it's

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>more than just outcompete as apparently like straight up killed

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>them off with illness. It was looking at a two

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>thousand eight study published in PLS one, and they pointed

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>out that there seems to be a direct cause here

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and it seems to be disease. They collected DNA samples

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>from the islands now extinct native rats via late nineteenth

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>and early twentieth century museum specimens, and they attributed the

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>extinction event here to ship jumping black rats infected with

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the protozoan Tripenasoma louizy, an organism that is related to

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>an organism that causes sleeping sickness in humans. And indeed,

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>native Island rats were seen to stagger around following the

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>arrival of the s S Hindustan in eight and this

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>protozoan is light is likely spread by fleas, so we

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>have you know, it's a similar situation that we've seen

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>with certainly with with human populations and UH and other organisms,

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>where an exotic variant brought in a parasite that the

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>UH that the native inhabitants were just simply unable to

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>deal with. Now, in terms of other native Christmas Island mammals,

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>others have had a tough time as well. The Christmas

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Island shrew is critically endangered. There's also a particular bat

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas Island PIPISTRELLI, Yes, thank you for helping that one. Now,

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>it's it's name. It is a cute name, a cute

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>name for a bat. It's critically endangered, if not outright extinct,

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and apparently the reasoning behind that is is not completely understood.

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>There's also the Christmas Island flying fox, which is another

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>type of bat. It is also in decline for unknown reasons.

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>And then you have the exotic mammals. We've already mentioned

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>black rats, but you also have a house mice, you

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>have feral cats and wild dogs. Now do we know

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.959
<v Speaker 1>what the explicit relationship between that change in the mammal

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:05.479
<v Speaker 1>populations and the surge and crabs is. The belief is

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>that those populated the original populations of rodents were helping

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to keep the population of crabs in check, and apparently

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the the the exotic mammals have not been able to

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>keep their numbers in check the same in the same rate.

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I see, So they're not adapted to to crab Island, right, Yeah,

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's one of those situations where again you just

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>see humans show up in the unbalanced things. Now, in

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the case of the red crabs, it would almost seem

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like the unbalancing made more spectacle right, Like the reason

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Christmas Island is because we have this

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>enormous surge that arguably might not be the same level

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>if we had also not managed to kill off two

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>whole species of rodents on the island. True, and there's

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be even more stuff along those lines coming up.

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>So there are actually multiple ongoing threats to the life

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>cycle of these amazing animals. If if you care about

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>out the beauty of the crab army scuttling through the forests,

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you should care about these issues. One is climate related.

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>So there is a paper from in Global Change Biology

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>called Linking l Neino Local rainfall and migration timing in

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a tropical migratory species by Alison K. Shaw and Catherine A.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Kelly and the authors here find that species whose mating

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and migratory behaviors are determined by weather, like the Christmas

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Island red crab, remember it's the it's certain things about

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the rainy season that tell them time

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>to go to the beach and mate. Uh, they will

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>probably be adversely affected by the way climate change is

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>upsetting normal weather patterns that were used to so the

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>author's write quote. We find that the timing of the

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>annual crab breeding migration is closely related to the amount

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of rain that falls during a migration window period prior

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to potential egg release dates, which is in turn really

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>added to the Southern oscillation index and atmospheric l ne

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>NEO Southern oscillation index. As reproduction in this species is

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>conditional on successful migration, they don't reproduce if they don't migrate,

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>major changes in migration patterns could have detrimental consequences for

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the survival of the species. So, in other words, climate

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 1>change messes around with the amount of timing of the

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>rainfall on Christmas Island, and then the crabs get the

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>short end of the stick and could find themselves unable

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to use their normal migration and breeding instincts in order

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 1>to produce the next generation. And this could also have

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>follow on effects with the animals that depend on these

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>migratory animals for food, like the Christmas Island red crab

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 1>is sort of a keystone species on the island in

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>many ways. One of the things we already mentioned is

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that those whale sharks come to eat the Christmas Island

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>red crab larvae in the water. But another thing is,

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned, they maintain the state of the forest

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>by clearing leaf litter and clearing out other plants in

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the undergrowth of the forest, and you know, and by

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>turning the soil right. Yeah, they're they're aerators. Now, there

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is another culprit that is putting the Christmas Island red

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>crabs at risk, and that is yellow crazy ants crazy ants. Again,

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it's different crazy ants somewhat. So we did an episode

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>about crazy ants before, but that was focused on a

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>completely different animal. We were mainly talking about the raspberry

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>crazy ant of the genus Nylandria. The yellow ant is

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>a totally different genus. It's an apolo lepus gracillips and

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>these are ants with a slender body, long legs, and

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 1>like the crazy ants in genus Nylanderia, they're also easily

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>recognized by these movement patterns that give them their name.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Their motion is sometimes described as frantic or erratic or crazy,

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and like raspberry crazy ants, these ants can also form

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>what are known as super colonies, which means they build

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>separate but friendly nests which do not attack one another

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and form a kind of web of allied ant armies

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that can easily overwhelm the habitats that they spread to,

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and so they're considered a very problematic invasive species like

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>other crazy ants. Also, they spray formic acid as a

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>defensive and offensive biological weapon, and formic acid is a

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 1>powerful chemical. Uh, it's apparently a potent poison against land crabs.

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>So you can imagine a bunch of ants come up

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>against one of these Christmas Island red crabs and the

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>ants spray formic acid in its eyes, in the segment

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>joints of the crabs, so you know, like getting in

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the leg joints, and this can leave the crabs unable

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 1>to move or to survive. And then after the crabs die,

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.479
<v Speaker 1>of course, the ants get a feast of crab meat

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>and this has had a huge impact on crab populations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been estimated that in the last fifteen years the

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.359
<v Speaker 1>ants have reduced the crab populations on the island by

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>as much as so local land crabs have been put

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>severely at risk by the yellow crazy ants. Interestingly, the

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>yellow crazy ants exist it on the island for many decades.

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they were introduced sometime in the first half

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<v Speaker 1>of the twentieth century. I've seen estimates in the nineteen

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>teens or twenties around then. Uh, And they were on

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>the island a long time before they became so destructive

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to the land crabs beginning around the nineteen nineties. So

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>what changed around the nineteen nineties. I was reading a

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>report that was put together by Parks Australia together with

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Latrobe University, and it appears that it was only in

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen nineties or so that these massive super colonies

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>of yellow crazy ants began forming. So what caused that change?

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>What happened then? H the author's point to the emergence

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>of a mutualism actually a symbiotic relationship, and this is

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a mutualism between the yellow crazy ants and another group

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of insects called scale insects. So it's like the like

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 1>the two enemies, they they forged a truce and and

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>then we're united against the forces of the crab. Yes,

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>so another non native species, the scale insects. What they

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.320
<v Speaker 1>do is they cling to plant stems and they suck

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the sap from the plants for energy, and they produce

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>a sugary waste product from their anal pores in the process.

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And the ants love this sugary poop, they go straight

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>to the anal pores and they eat it up. So

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:23.439
<v Speaker 1>they have formed this mutualistic protective relationship with the tree

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>sucking candy poopers. The scale insects suck from the trees,

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>they produce sugary poop. The yellow the yellow crazy ants

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>eat the sugary poop and they protect the scale insects.

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And it appears that this emerging symbiosis between the yellow

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 1>crazy ants and the scale insects is related to the

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 1>ant's ability to form these ecologically devastating super colonies. But

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>here's so, then you take the question one step back, Well,

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>what caused this mutualism to begin in the first place. Uh,

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the authors of this report don't know. They speculate that

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>changing rainfall patterns on Christmas Island, we're putting stress on

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 1>freeze and this made the sap more concentrated, which means

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>it's even more sugary goodness for the scale insects. And

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>this increases the population of the scale insects, which produces

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>more delicious sugary poop for their yellow ant friends, which

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>means more ants to protect the scale insects, which means

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>even more scale insects and then you get this dangerous

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>feedback loop. It's this is all Christmas Island is in

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.800
<v Speaker 1>so many ways. This uh, this wonderful look at the

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>horrible cascading effects of colonialism, of human intervention in general,

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean at the macroscopic climate level and at the

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>local invasive level. Yet like at every level, we have

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>messed with this island. And we messed it with it

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>in one way, and now we're messing with it in

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a different way, and and now in fact we're gonna

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>keep messing with it in order to try to fix

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>part of what we did. Because the question is can

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>anything be done to save these amazing red crabs. I mean,

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 1>these are it is a wonderful thing to see these

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>animals doing what they do. And so I was reading

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>an interesting article about this on the Conversation in UH

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>posted in by two Latrobe University professors Susan Lawler and

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Peter Green, and apparently Parks Australia has been trying to

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:17.240
<v Speaker 1>do all kinds of things to help the crabs survive

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the crazy ants, or to knock the crazy ant super

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>colonies back, like they tried poison bading the ants by hand,

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>but apparently this is just not an efficient solution. In

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>sen they launched a new project, and this was killer wasps.

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Like it tell me more so the killer wasps. They're

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>only about two millimeters long and they're naturally found in

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>India and Southeast Asia. They're called tach Cardiaphagus summer Villy

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>and the author selected this tiny wasp because it attacks

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>this specific species of scale insect that has formed the

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>mutualistic relationship with the crazy ants. Uh So, the wasp

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>is a parasitoid that lays its eggs in the body

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>of the female of this one species of scale insect,

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 1>which hatch into more wasps that lay more eggs in

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 1>these species of scale insects, and hopefully this will severely

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>control the population of this one particular species of scale insect,

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>which is also invasive on the island. Uh And the

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>authors note that they've had to be very cautious because

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 1>they cite examples that, you know, in the past, we've

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>tried to introduce animals to places in the hope that

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>they would control a pest problem, but then they became

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a problem in their own right. They said, the example

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of the cane toad in Australia, which was brought into

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>control cane beetles, but then it became its own kind

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>of problem. And I'm reminded, of course, of the old

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>nursery rhyme. There was an old lady who swallowed a fly, right,

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and she's forced to keep swallowing progressively larger and parasitic

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.839
<v Speaker 1>wasps and larger and more destructive organisms to try and

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>uh savor until if she dies at the end of

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the song. Yeah, well, the authors, so we hope that

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen. The authors claim they performed rigorous research before

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and uh they tested really hard to make sure this

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:06.479
<v Speaker 1>wasp would not harm other local species, and they said,

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, according to their tests, everything seemed to check out.

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 1>So they introduced the wasps in sixteen. And I checked

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>with a more recent news article on the wasp control

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>project from it looks like the effort is having early

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>markers for success. The wasps have become established, their range

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.879
<v Speaker 1>is spreading, But we'll have to wait a few more

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.800
<v Speaker 1>years before we see the full effect on the crab populations.

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:29.760
<v Speaker 1>But I hope it works, and I hope it doesn't

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>have any unexpected effects. Less to become island of the

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Wasps Kingdom of the Wasps. You don't want to have

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>to think about Crab Island needing to be protected. You

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.760
<v Speaker 1>want to think that Crab Island is an armored, claw

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>wielding force to be reckoned with, and that it you know,

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it can withstand anything on its own. But I don't know. Yeah,

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 1>natural populations or even unnatural populations are vulnerable. I mean,

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>look at Skull Island right King Kong's homeland. Oh, I

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:01.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about population dynam There a monster island

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>where all the giant Japanese monsters with That's clearly these

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>are places that need to be protected. We don't need

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>to go in there and try and defeat them with

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 1>our robots. Is there is there a crab kaiju? Yes?

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>There are. There are crab kaiju up the wazoo. Yes. Nice,

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>They have their own movies sometimes. Yeah, Godzillafat want to

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>forget its name? I cannot. I can never remember the

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>names of the adversary except that maybe it But yeah,

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>he fought a giant crab in one episode. It was

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I finally remember it from my childhood. But we'll get

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>into We'll get into monster crabs a bit more in

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the next episode of Stuff to Blow Your Mind, because

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>we will talk about another resident of Christmas Island that

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>is an enormous deco pod. In fact, that the largest

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>land crab that you will find on Earth. Now, naturally

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>we would love to hear from everybody out there. We

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>have listeners all over the world. I wonder if we

0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>have just a single listener that lives on Christmas Island

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>if we do email us yes, Likewise, we have a

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of Australian listeners uh and just listeners who have

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.959
<v Speaker 1>traveled around the world. In general, if you have ever

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:14.720
<v Speaker 1>been to Christmas Island and witnessed any of the species

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>we discussed here, or just I mean even if you've

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.360
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0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>want to hear from you. Whatever you have to share

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:25.160
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