Speaker 1: What's that ad? It's spooky joky. I'm really sure it's dead.
Speaker 1: It's coming this way. Wait a minute, hell, I ghosted
Speaker 1: Nanda's plle. Hey boo, it's me Raz and welcome to
Speaker 1: Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to
Speaker 1: people that I like about things that make my blood
Speaker 1: curdle as I sit here in my girdle. Oh curdle.
Speaker 1: Horrible word, but you know it's not horrible. My guest
Speaker 1: today I did a little flip flop with and that's
Speaker 1: why we drink the iconic paranormal slash true crime podcast,
Speaker 1: and I'll be talking to them. That's m and Christine
Speaker 1: in just a moment. Also, go listen to when I
Speaker 1: was on their podcast recently. But before we get to that,
Speaker 1: I've got a story here from Christina, who works in
Speaker 1: child care and has had this job since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: Christina writes, this child care was converted from a church
Speaker 1: which is attached to a graveyard. Oh what could go wrong?
Speaker 1: Whether or not this has anything to do with what
Speaker 1: goes on, I cannot say, but I am not the
Speaker 1: only one who has had experiences. Our building has eleven classrooms,
Speaker 1: two floors. The majority of the stories I've heard and
Speaker 1: my personal experiences are that there's a man that hangs
Speaker 1: around the first floor and a child on the second floor.
Speaker 1: But recently I have discovered that it may be so
Speaker 1: much more than that. Some of the experiences on the
Speaker 1: first floor are seeing a man down the end of
Speaker 1: the hallway and watching him walk into the classroom at
Speaker 1: that end. One evening, I was walking down that hallway
Speaker 1: in the building alone. I'm a pre k teacher and
Speaker 1: a manager, so I do walk throughs at the end
Speaker 1: of the night to confirm safe closure, and from that
Speaker 1: exact room I heard a man say hello to me.
Speaker 1: My response was, nope, not today, I am telling you
Speaker 1: not today. As I be lined it up the stairs
Speaker 1: to check the second floor, my coworker and I once
Speaker 1: saw what appeared to be a ball come from the
Speaker 1: wall during nap time when the kids were asleep. It
Speaker 1: went past her head and bounced behind me back up,
Speaker 1: and then it just disappeared. A dark haired child ran
Speaker 1: from the bathroom to the classroom door, but all of
Speaker 1: our children on the carpet were accounted for. In the
Speaker 1: opposing room. Teachers have seen children's hands hanging on the
Speaker 1: bathroom door. It's a half door, but there's no kids inside.
Speaker 1: In my classroom, I was mopping and I saw a
Speaker 1: blondhaired child in the bathroom, but as I turned away
Speaker 1: to allow privacy, I then realized there was no way
Speaker 1: there was anyone there. I turned back around and the
Speaker 1: bathroom was empty. I was patting a child to sleep
Speaker 1: and was about to ask another child who I saw
Speaker 1: in my peripheral peripheral why they were walking around during
Speaker 1: nap time, when I realized that the child I thought
Speaker 1: it was was actually the child I was patting. There
Speaker 1: was no child walking to me. When I looked over.
Speaker 1: Last year, a student told me that I had a
Speaker 1: ghost above my head, and today a student told me
Speaker 1: in the exact spot he saw a man with no face.
Speaker 1: I neglected to mention the times children in the room
Speaker 1: on the first floor are often scared in the room
Speaker 1: that the man has been seen walking into. Even our
Speaker 1: maintenance man told me how he goes to a lot
Speaker 1: of places and sees a lot of things, but our
Speaker 1: school scares him the most. Unprovoked. He told me this,
Speaker 1: and he even said about the man downstairs and the
Speaker 1: child upstairs. One of the therapists who comes in and
Speaker 1: works with a few kids in the building has ghost
Speaker 1: stories in each room. Thank you, Christina. Well, I'm very
Speaker 1: happy to hear that there is a therapist that is
Speaker 1: on campus. This is absolutely terrifying. Thank you for being
Speaker 1: a teacher. Thank you for sending that in. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: talk to the host of and That's why we drink.
Speaker 1: Here's my conversation with m and Christine on with the show.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. It is a historic day in
Speaker 1: paranormal podcasting history because I am joined by em and Christine.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, thank you for having us.
Speaker 3: Very excited to be here.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Hey, what do you guys think
Speaker 1: of ghosts?
Speaker 2: Oh boy, you left a dangerous door open for us
Speaker 2: to talk about whatever we wanted. A creepy door, crazy door.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the worst thing you could have done
Speaker 3: is say just go for it.
Speaker 1: So let a rap. I'll sit back and listen. Make
Speaker 1: my job easier. You guys, So you both are believers
Speaker 1: in ghosts?
Speaker 3: Correct, big time, big time.
Speaker 1: Who's more?
Speaker 3: Probably me?
Speaker 1: It's more skeptical.
Speaker 2: I'm more Okay, let's put it this way. We both
Speaker 2: equally probably believe that they're in the spiritual side of things.
Speaker 2: I think when we are actually investigating, I'm the more
Speaker 2: skeptical half in that when something happens, I tried to
Speaker 2: debunk it first, whereas you know, Emma is more likely
Speaker 2: to assume any sort of blip or sound or movement.
Speaker 2: That's more of the scaredy cat I guess, like in
Speaker 2: the in the investigation sense, but you own that.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to run at any moment, and I'm afraid
Speaker 3: about it. But also like the irony is I'm the
Speaker 3: one that actually used to be right. I mean, we
Speaker 3: still investigate together now, but before I even met Christine,
Speaker 3: for like ten years, I was an investigator and I
Speaker 3: was always terrified. It was just it was quite.
Speaker 1: A that's part of the fun though, well.
Speaker 3: It should have been its own sitcom because everyone else
Speaker 3: in my in my group, they were all like astrophysicists,
Speaker 3: and these really intense scientists to their whole goal wasn't
Speaker 3: to find a ghost, but to debunk whatever people claim
Speaker 3: the hauntings of the housework.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: And I was just like the ragtag Lucy Goose who
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, Gosper's here. So they probably
Speaker 3: hated me, So.
Speaker 1: I'll let the nerds do their nerds stuff. I want
Speaker 1: to have fun. I'm like a mixture of both of you.
Speaker 1: I think, because I talk a big game. I'm always like,
Speaker 1: that's not a ghost. I'll prove it. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: it's scary. I'm sorry, it is scary. And I actually
Speaker 1: in more recent times, when I go investigating, I make
Speaker 1: myself wear super tall high heels so that I don't run.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would break my strategy of them. Yeah what
Speaker 2: a strategy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I want to be not living in fear.
Speaker 1: But I'm terrified the entire time I'm doing it. And
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you know. You talk to some
Speaker 1: of these people, They're like, it's not scary, it's it's
Speaker 1: part of life. People die and what come on? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not terrified anyone. Yeah. I don't like invisible people
Speaker 1: around me that I can't see. No, but to keep
Speaker 1: myself there and so honestly, so I can have more
Speaker 1: content to share, so I don't leave before the good
Speaker 1: part happens. I now make myself wear very tall high heels.
Speaker 3: I love that I speakers, and for the only time
Speaker 3: in my life, I run as fast as I can.
Speaker 2: Okay, So on that note, m it just surmunded me
Speaker 2: one time a psychic medium that I know who. Her
Speaker 2: name's Jessica Lniado and she does a podcast called ghost
Speaker 2: of a Podcast, and she and I did like a
Speaker 2: reading together, and she was like, are you going somewhere
Speaker 2: And this is right before we had an investigation planned,
Speaker 2: and she said, are you going somewhere like impending? And
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, next week I'm going to this
Speaker 2: haunted house. And she was like, Okay, this is kind
Speaker 2: of random advice, but she said, wear a pair of
Speaker 2: shoes that are like your ghost hunting shoes, because she's like,
Speaker 2: you can take energy with you from like say, the
Speaker 2: shoes you're wearing because you're, you know, trying to ground
Speaker 2: yourself whatever. And so she said, have like a separate
Speaker 2: ghost hunting pair of shoes and then try not to
Speaker 2: wear those out and about to like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: keep them separate.
Speaker 3: She says, like stepping in spider webs and you could
Speaker 3: bring the energy home and it kind of lingers, and.
Speaker 2: Like nobody needs to tell me twice to buy more shoes.
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, fine.
Speaker 1: I'll do, but what about the rest of your clothes?
Speaker 1: Does it linger on those or just the shoes, you know.
Speaker 2: She said, it's more symbolic, I think, and it's sort
Speaker 2: of a way for you to detach. So I think
Speaker 2: it's more just like if you kind of mentally say,
Speaker 2: like these shoes are going away in a box for
Speaker 2: you know, until next time. It's more of just like
Speaker 2: a I think it was more of a mental thing.
Speaker 2: But she said it can help to like keep stuff
Speaker 2: at bay and not bring home.
Speaker 3: O shoes just rattling around. The box is rattling around
Speaker 3: somewhere now in her closet.
Speaker 2: There's like a ghost in my shoe box.
Speaker 1: Yet, oh my god, you should get tap shoes and
Speaker 1: just have them tapping away.
Speaker 2: And you're in your heels. We're just clicking around. All
Speaker 2: our EVPs are ruined because we're just stomping around.
Speaker 1: Wait, so give me some give me some locations that
Speaker 1: you guys have investigated together.
Speaker 3: So we the one we'll talk about openly is the
Speaker 3: Queen Mary. But when we go ghost hunting, it's for
Speaker 3: content for our live show, and usually we surprise people
Speaker 3: with the location. Okay, so we're currently on our second location,
Speaker 3: which we haven't we haven't finished the tour, so we
Speaker 3: can't publicly announce where we've gone just yet. But our
Speaker 3: very first tour was at the Queen Mary and we
Speaker 3: went for two nights, and we have a bit of
Speaker 3: a one sided back and forth with Zach Begins on
Speaker 3: our show where people know that we have particular opinions
Speaker 3: about him and part of the storyline. We didn't even
Speaker 3: ask for this to happen. But the Queen Mary, we
Speaker 3: had to go back a second night because he stole
Speaker 3: our room, and he stole the room that we were
Speaker 3: supposed to be in. It went ghost hunting, and then
Speaker 3: we had to go in the night after him, so
Speaker 3: we had to go ghost hunting after he pissed everything off.
Speaker 2: After Ghost Adventures had like burst through this scene and
Speaker 2: what it was crazy, and like we have proof of
Speaker 2: this because our producer Eva called the hotel and was like,
Speaker 2: you said, you lost our reservation?
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 2: And I guess the person at the hotel was newer
Speaker 2: and they didn't know. They weren't supposed to say this,
Speaker 2: and they said, oh, well, travel Channel has booked it out,
Speaker 2: so we had to give it away to them, and
Speaker 2: so we were like, Travel Channel, that can't be right.
Speaker 2: So we were like, this is very suspicious, and then
Speaker 2: a person on Twitter DMed us the night that we
Speaker 2: were supposed to be there and was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I'm on a tour at the Queen Mary and we
Speaker 2: can't go into the you know, the super Hunted room
Speaker 2: because Zach Begins and his team are here. I can
Speaker 2: hear them like punching the walls and screaming at the ghost.
Speaker 1: He was like, we're going.
Speaker 3: It's like, we couldn't plan that better for content, of like,
Speaker 3: of course of all days he would steal that room.
Speaker 3: It's just it really blew our mind. So it worked
Speaker 3: out very well. But it also means that we got
Speaker 3: really good like paranormal content.
Speaker 2: He like made all the demons mad, I guess everything
Speaker 2: off everything, and we ended up having to leave before
Speaker 2: midnight because things were so intent.
Speaker 1: So for anyone listening, because I have a lot of
Speaker 1: people that listen to this podcast that might not watch
Speaker 1: like paranormal shows and stuff. Zach Beggins is he has
Speaker 1: a show called Ghost Adventures, very successful ghost show on
Speaker 1: Travel Channel, and he also famously loves to buy things
Speaker 1: that people were murdered on or around and put them
Speaker 1: on display. See them. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, and he's
Speaker 1: he definitely.
Speaker 2: Has known as like and he kind of antagonizes the
Speaker 2: ghost to like bring them out, you know, right, And
Speaker 2: so you know, we have a much more gentle approach
Speaker 2: as if we were talking to actually, you know humans.
Speaker 3: It's a gentle parent the ghosts.
Speaker 1: Gentle parenting. Yeah, he's more like.
Speaker 3: A nineteen fifties dad with the ghosts, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, exactly, so we're traditional.
Speaker 1: By the time you guys got there, what did you
Speaker 1: feel like? The ghosts were like, where'd that motherfucker go? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, legit, get him back here.
Speaker 3: We said his name, all the machines started going off.
Speaker 3: For the rest of the night.
Speaker 2: It felt like people were up in our grill like
Speaker 2: get the picture.
Speaker 3: Like it felt like as soon as we said his name,
Speaker 3: they went, oh, you know that guy, Like okay, like
Speaker 3: maybe you're associated with him. We should fuck around with
Speaker 3: you and see what happens. And I mean there were things.
Speaker 3: We're big fans of dowsing rods, which Christine does a
Speaker 3: much better job at explaining how those work than I do.
Speaker 1: But they, oh yeah, explain them. I love them.
Speaker 2: Go for Christine, Oh yeah, yeah, of course no. So
Speaker 2: I found out later after because I just was immediately
Speaker 2: drawn to them, and I found out later that my
Speaker 2: grandma back in Austria used to do dowsing rods, you know,
Speaker 2: in her village or whatever, so I like to think
Speaker 2: it's like a family connection. But they're basically these rods
Speaker 2: that are very wobbly and they're very hard to control yourself.
Speaker 2: But initially they were used to locate either water sources
Speaker 2: or lay lines, and they can also theoretically be used
Speaker 2: to communicate with spirits because the theory is that electromagnetic
Speaker 2: energy is what they can use to like signify yes
Speaker 2: or no answers by crossing them over or you know,
Speaker 2: explaining them apart, so you can either be you know
Speaker 2: drawn somewhere or have a yes or no conversation. It's
Speaker 2: just a really cool tool to have, and it sometimes
Speaker 2: gets scarier than you anticipate.
Speaker 3: At the Queen Mary Christine ended up using the dowsing
Speaker 3: rods and they were dragging her all over the room.
Speaker 2: It felt like someone was like magnetically pulling them. It
Speaker 2: was very frightening.
Speaker 1: Now, how does that work when you're on a boat
Speaker 1: that's in water?
Speaker 3: Though, trust me, that's a question for the ages, great
Speaker 3: question for the others. What's interesting, it kept bringing us
Speaker 3: to the bathroom, which was very creepy. We were able
Speaker 3: to film this and we got a lot of content,
Speaker 3: but like half of the videos of that night are
Speaker 3: machines in the bathroom when we're not anywhere near the
Speaker 3: bathroom going off by themselves turning off when we asked
Speaker 3: them to. We actually played a drinking game where every
Speaker 3: time the machine would go off, Christine would take a shot.
Speaker 3: And it really seemed to enjoy that game.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And then she started getting dragged into the bathroom the
Speaker 3: entire night and there was something really creepy going on.
Speaker 3: There's in theory on the Queen Mary a little girl
Speaker 3: ghost named Jackie. But what they don't tell you is
Speaker 3: that Jackie is theoretically actually a demon and there never
Speaker 3: was a little girl who died on board. And oh yes,
Speaker 3: she lures you in by playing innocent.
Speaker 2: And naive, being like a cute little kid, so we.
Speaker 3: Ca gentle parent her and then she sucks onto you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she gets it.
Speaker 3: She's known to call out for mommy and daddy, and
Speaker 3: we got a very clear daddy at night. And then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, all of our EVPs started warping
Speaker 3: to sound like demonic voices.
Speaker 1: That was probably the wost we should demon thought that
Speaker 1: Zach Beggins was her daddy. She's like daddy.
Speaker 2: We actually made the joke that EM was the daddy
Speaker 2: in the room because EM was the only one day
Speaker 2: true room, and our fans seemed to really glom onto that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big fan of that joke. It always
Speaker 1: got a lot of Wow, that's gonna be me when
Speaker 1: I'm a ghost, Like I'm gonna daddy figure out how
Speaker 1: to like be like a little girl and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be saddy.
Speaker 2: Me let me just kidding. It was genuinely it sounded
Speaker 2: like that. It was like the early ones were like daddy,
Speaker 2: and we should send you the clips or I put
Speaker 2: them back to back, and then over the hours you
Speaker 2: can like hear it start to.
Speaker 1: Go like like get this creepy.
Speaker 2: It's like the same voice, but it starts to get
Speaker 2: like Garby and spooky and ill.
Speaker 3: It's like start getting more comfortable with us to get
Speaker 3: dark warping.
Speaker 1: Did you guys, was this the room that's like the
Speaker 1: haunted room that was shut down for the ages and
Speaker 1: they finally unveiled it. Yeah, and then Zach began stole
Speaker 1: it from right, and that's.
Speaker 3: Part of the important history. Now you have to relay
Speaker 3: that for the rest of it is now.
Speaker 1: It should be in the Wikipedia. Yes, well, and also like,
Speaker 1: it's definitely one of those places that I'm it's hard
Speaker 1: living in southern California. Surprisingly, there's like not a ton
Speaker 1: of places that you can just like go investigate, I know,
Speaker 1: and that is one of the great places that you
Speaker 1: can go, which is why if you ever type it
Speaker 1: in on YouTube, you'll see hundreds of twinks making scared
Speaker 1: faces like this, and they've all been there with their
Speaker 1: cameras and I have been there in that room, and honey,
Speaker 1: they were taking the night off really really, they were
Speaker 1: on break. Nonetheless, I was terrified, so I left, but
Speaker 1: my friends stayed all night and they woke up nothing
Speaker 1: happened for them whatsoever. So I don't know. I've always
Speaker 1: been like, is this just something that they decided this
Speaker 1: would be a great way to sell to you know,
Speaker 1: raise the price on one of these rooms and be
Speaker 1: like it's.
Speaker 3: A idea, it's not all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, you could totally do that. With so many
Speaker 1: of these rooms you could just like make up fake
Speaker 1: stories about all of them. I don't know, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people, including the twinks on YouTube and you
Speaker 1: guys now, have told me that it is very haunted.
Speaker 2: I think part of it is that since it was
Speaker 2: like a warship, that a lot of people died during
Speaker 2: the wartime, and they never released the numbers because they're confidential,
Speaker 2: I guess, And so I think to me, the creepiest
Speaker 2: part was like down in the boiler room, down in
Speaker 2: all the parts where men used to work during wartime,
Speaker 2: or where prisoners were chained, and it's like, even just
Speaker 2: knowing that history makes it scary to me. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we had, we had. I don't know, we definitely got
Speaker 2: some stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like our if it's it
Speaker 3: fed off of our energy and we were already ready
Speaker 3: for scary stuff. But it sounds like you would have been.
Speaker 2: To be fair, and we went twice and the first
Speaker 2: time we felt like we didn't get enough, so we
Speaker 2: were sure, let's go back, so to be fair, like
Speaker 2: the first time, we felt like maybe we didn't get
Speaker 2: that much footage, so we did go back a second time,
Speaker 2: and then it like smacked us right in the face.
Speaker 1: When was this when was the second we were both at.
Speaker 3: The end of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before you know, all hell broke loose.
Speaker 1: Because I'm I just feel like these ghosts, they're probably
Speaker 1: excited now they got some rest. You people have let
Speaker 1: them be for a manum Yeah.
Speaker 2: They realize that they're missing with all these people coming
Speaker 2: in getting there's just.
Speaker 1: They they keep those ghosts working because that's one of
Speaker 1: those places that's like, we are haunted. Come on and
Speaker 1: you can have it. Here's a weiji board, take it
Speaker 1: with you. And I feel like those ghosts are just like,
Speaker 1: can you literally let us.
Speaker 2: I'm a break in here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I wonder if they're even if
Speaker 3: they even enjoy because to be a ghost in an
Speaker 3: area where no one is claiming it's haunted, you must
Speaker 3: really crave acknowledgment. But when you're getting nothing but acknowledging,
Speaker 3: I mean, the grass is always greener, I guess with
Speaker 3: the ghosts.
Speaker 1: You know totally that's what the ghosts say. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel that for sure. Okay, I want to hear about
Speaker 1: Harry Christine, tell me about Harry and Slip.
Speaker 2: How do you know, I almost like beat my pants.
Speaker 2: I saw of got I was like, who told you?
Speaker 1: That guy that just popped up behind you on the
Speaker 1: zoom and said, Hi, I'm Harry, are you going to
Speaker 1: talk about swear?
Speaker 3: You scared me?
Speaker 2: I should have known. I should have known.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, so I moved into a house that was built
Speaker 2: in like eighteen sixty five.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I thought would happen, but she knew.
Speaker 3: But as she was buying it, she went, guess what's
Speaker 3: going to happen in this house? It's going to be
Speaker 3: very haunted.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have also like a glutton for punishment. Sometimes don't
Speaker 2: tell everyone about the stairs.
Speaker 1: Wait, where is this? What part of the world news.
Speaker 2: So I moved back to my hometown of Cincinnati during COVID,
Speaker 2: but uh, northern Kentucky area. So I'm like right by Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: but in the state of Kentucky, which is a you know,
Speaker 2: a wild move from LA. Do you know the new
Speaker 2: Kirks New Kirks. I don't think so, Greg and Dana
Speaker 2: new Kirk. Oh yeah, yes, yes, I mean I know
Speaker 2: of them. I don't think they knew no me.
Speaker 1: They live in Cincinnati. They're awesome, and they they like
Speaker 1: do collect haunted things. And they have a new documentary
Speaker 1: that's called The Unbinding and it's really good. That's about
Speaker 1: a haunted object and.
Speaker 2: I gotta check this out. Yeah, I feel like there's
Speaker 2: so much I'm learning and I don't know. I move
Speaker 2: in this house. Yes, as I'm said, there's a staircase.
Speaker 2: It was moved into the house after a church from
Speaker 2: the eighteen hundreds was torn down and then they just
Speaker 2: like took the staircase put it in this house. So
Speaker 2: there's all sorts of weird, Like the basement has a
Speaker 2: trap door to get in it. It's there's a lot
Speaker 2: of spooky stuff. Okay, yeah, it's it's a little weird.
Speaker 2: But my husband, who's like very much a skeptic and
Speaker 2: like works in medicine, Uh, there's certain one certain part
Speaker 2: of the house he will not go to once the
Speaker 2: sun goes down, and he like, oh, it's just feels weird.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, hmm, okay, but it is the place
Speaker 2: where out of the corner of my eye, I'm always
Speaker 2: seeing somebody walk down this hall. And I was talking
Speaker 2: to this person who they're a medium as well, and
Speaker 2: they were like, do you sometimes feel like there's somebody
Speaker 2: you know? Because where I'm sitting it's like right behind me.
Speaker 3: And they're like, do.
Speaker 2: You feel like there's just this residual energy sometimes of
Speaker 2: somebody just coming in? And I said, yeah, I feel
Speaker 2: like I see out of the corner of my eye
Speaker 2: this shadow passed by my door every time I have
Speaker 2: to close it now because I see it every time
Speaker 2: I sit at my desk. And this this person said, oh, well,
Speaker 2: it's I'm getting the name Harry. And he's harmless. He's
Speaker 2: basically just you know, coming home from work and just
Speaker 2: you know, dropping his bag. And so he'll come in
Speaker 2: and in the evening, walk up the stairs drop his bag.
Speaker 2: That's kind it just on replay. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's kind of weird. And then a few months later
Speaker 2: I was looking up some newspapers dot com, like history
Speaker 2: of the neighborhood, history of my house, and it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: Harry so and so, oh don't say the name died
Speaker 2: in the house on nineteen thirty five or whatever. And
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a second. So the guy who
Speaker 2: did live here for like forty years apparently was named Harry,
Speaker 2: and it could be a good incidence, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but it wigged me out a little bit. And so
Speaker 2: I keep that door closed and I give him his
Speaker 2: space at night. But it's it's just a little eerie
Speaker 2: because you can just feel like someone is there and
Speaker 2: you don't even want to look. So you're like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to know. I don't want to see it.
Speaker 1: Can you see it?
Speaker 2: My daughter is two, and I'm like, she's gonna start
Speaker 2: talking any day now. She's gonna be like Harry my friend,
Speaker 2: you know, And I'm like, forget it, no, thanks.
Speaker 1: Can you like when you see him out of the
Speaker 1: corner eye, like, can you see features?
Speaker 2: Or so this is like a totally new thing to me.
Speaker 2: I never had this kind of experience even in my
Speaker 2: house growing up.
Speaker 3: It's almost getting comfortable.
Speaker 1: No, it's he's going to be like daddy, I see.
Speaker 2: It's almost like if you see somebody, I don't see features,
Speaker 2: Almost like as if somebody has just walked right past
Speaker 2: into the bathroom. And at the first couple of times,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I thought my husband just walked past, and
Speaker 2: I like kind of got up to be like, what
Speaker 2: are you doing in my bathroom? Nobody there. Then I
Speaker 2: was like, maybe the cat is like casting a shadow.
Speaker 1: No, not the cat.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Perfect six foot man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the six foot man.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just looks like somebody out of your peripheral, like
Speaker 2: a figure just moves past. So it's very vague, can't
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 1: And it's only that, like there's no he's not throwing
Speaker 1: things around in the kitchen, Like it's only this one
Speaker 1: loop that plays over him, this weird loop.
Speaker 2: But lately, I pour I keep coming to the show
Speaker 2: with like, guess what happened this time? Because we're doing
Speaker 2: a lot of renovating on the house and things are
Speaker 2: getting weird. My husband's glasses keep disappearing, and he thinks
Speaker 2: that I'm like moving them I don't know, into random places,
Speaker 2: but then they'll like we'll look for hours and then
Speaker 2: they'll reappear on his pillow and we're like, hmm, none
Speaker 2: of us are. Yeah, it's just very weird little stuff
Speaker 2: like that that are collectively uncomfortable, but they happen so
Speaker 2: sporadically that it doesn't feel very ominous. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm keeping tabs on it because I'm like, I, ah,
Speaker 2: we'll see where this goes. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I gotta ask where are the ghost hunting shoes?
Speaker 1: M there? That's a great question.
Speaker 3: They're in your damn closet with the rest of your shoes,
Speaker 3: aren't they They're maybe just hang it out around all
Speaker 3: my other shoes. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I have to check. I'm not very there. You go
Speaker 1: careful And what kind of stories you got? What's the
Speaker 1: what's the one that you're like, Oh, I guess full
Speaker 1: of good stories. I got one for you, you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, So do you want scary or interesting?
Speaker 1: My life is interesting enough. I need that's scary. I want.
Speaker 1: I want you to keep me up at night peaceful.
Speaker 3: So when I was thirteen, my dad moved into this
Speaker 3: house that he he bought the land, knowing there were
Speaker 3: a bunch of dead bodies buried underneath it.
Speaker 2: Oh my, I guess there are a steak number one.
Speaker 3: There used to be a family that lived there, and
Speaker 3: at the time, it was normal for you to just
Speaker 3: bury your family members on.
Speaker 2: Your own property. Okay, I thought it was like a
Speaker 2: serial killer thing, but like.
Speaker 3: No, but that would be quite a discounted piece of land,
Speaker 3: so you know.
Speaker 1: Having crazy okay. Side Now, my father in the seventies
Speaker 1: had a pet monkey, and the monkey when the monkey died,
Speaker 1: he buried it in our backyard. Oh my lord, So
Speaker 1: somewhere in our backyard there's a monkey scolar.
Speaker 2: So in like one hundred years, some kids going to
Speaker 2: be like digging in their sandbox and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: what's this?
Speaker 1: Oh my lords, totally and they're probably going to think
Speaker 1: it's like those little Mexican aliens that they just found,
Speaker 1: and maybe it is. But yeah, so unfortunately there was
Speaker 1: never a monkey ghost around my house. What it would
Speaker 1: have been kind of a delight though.
Speaker 3: Imagine the chaos be like a monkey or a Poulter, guys,
Speaker 3: because that like things are just.
Speaker 1: Just flinging stuff. Yeah, I know. Okay, So back to
Speaker 1: your home built on dead.
Speaker 3: I always knew there was one guy that was buried
Speaker 3: there named Charlie, and apparently Charlie was, as far as
Speaker 3: I know, a very nice guy. My stepmom can't see things,
Speaker 3: and so she actually saw Charlie a few times in
Speaker 3: the house and said that he's kind of just he's
Speaker 3: aware that we're there and he doesn't mean any harm,
Speaker 3: so he was always kind of welcome to just hang
Speaker 3: with us. And then there was a few like a
Speaker 3: mom and a dad or a husband and wife who
Speaker 3: were buried there. At some point and then there was
Speaker 3: this little girl in a blue dress.
Speaker 2: We're picking up on it. Yeah, so immediate demon there.
Speaker 3: Apparently I could see this little girl when I was
Speaker 3: a kid. I have something. I have some fuzzy spots
Speaker 3: about that, but I think I just thought it was
Speaker 3: like a neighborhood kid. You know how when you're young
Speaker 3: and you're you're not even really thinking about what's real
Speaker 3: and what's not. So I didn't know what I was
Speaker 3: if I was imagining something or conjuring something up, and
Speaker 3: I would just say like, oh, there's that neighborhood girl.
Speaker 1: And she just disappeared into the closet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I only ever see her like in little blips, and
Speaker 3: I just kind of she was always by the house,
Speaker 3: but not in the house. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's interesting. But all of a sudden, as I I remember,
Speaker 3: after a few of those moments, I couldn't see her anymore,
Speaker 3: but I started feeling this really bad energy inside the house.
Speaker 3: It was almost as if by seeing her and not
Speaker 3: being scared, I invited something in obviously not knowing, and
Speaker 3: I just felt something really dark all the time. And
Speaker 3: so between my mom and dad's custody, I knew what
Speaker 3: days I was going to have to be at my
Speaker 3: dad's house, and those were the days that I would
Speaker 3: like save, like save the battery on my game Boy
Speaker 3: and stuff, because I would hide. I would hide under
Speaker 3: my blanket until I could fall asleep and just do
Speaker 3: whatever I could entertain myself because I could feel something
Speaker 3: staring at me as if like nose to nose, and
Speaker 3: it felt so evil, it felt so get the f
Speaker 3: out of here, and it was just the scariest feeling ever.
Speaker 3: And eventually I told my step mom. My step mom
Speaker 3: is a second generation witch with sixty years experience, and
Speaker 3: I had a good teammate, and so I went, something's
Speaker 3: really messing with me at night, like I can't sleep.
Speaker 3: If it could touch me, it would rip me out
Speaker 3: of the bed. And she was like, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to tell you what I'm going to do, but I
Speaker 3: just want you to tell me tomorrow how you feel.
Speaker 3: And that night I went to bed and felt nothing
Speaker 3: except I could feel something at my window, like staring
Speaker 3: through the window, like trying to break into the house,
Speaker 3: trying to get to me.
Speaker 1: So what did she do?
Speaker 3: So she apparently blessed my room, but not the perimeter
Speaker 3: of the house. She blessed the house, but not the perimeter,
Speaker 3: and so it could get up to the house, just
Speaker 3: couldn't get inside.
Speaker 2: So ugh, and you know it was about that.
Speaker 1: It was kissed so mad.
Speaker 3: So then I have a nissa nephew who were now
Speaker 3: little kids, and every time they would look out the window,
Speaker 3: they'd go, oh, look at that little girl in the
Speaker 3: blue dress.
Speaker 1: Stop, are you kidding me? So now she needs to
Speaker 1: get a hobby.
Speaker 3: Serious sitting on a hobby. So apparently apparently she needs
Speaker 3: another one. She needs I totally agree with you. So
Speaker 3: she uh, she was always able to hang out on
Speaker 3: our property, but never in the house. So then I
Speaker 3: go to college and apparently this little fucker followed me
Speaker 3: to college.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's she's so cleanly. She waited like
Speaker 3: talk about waiting forever. I was thirteen. Now I'm going
Speaker 3: to college and she's now getting in the car with me.
Speaker 3: And I had a friend in college who also was
Speaker 3: able to see things and would talk about this little
Speaker 3: girl on a blue dress all the time, and things
Speaker 3: got really dark, really creepy. There were apparently my behavior
Speaker 3: changed every now and then, and she would say that's
Speaker 3: because like the little girl. She see the little girl
Speaker 3: next to me. One time, the curtain rods like lifted
Speaker 3: off of the hooks and dropped to the floor by
Speaker 3: themselves like this. This thing was so creepy. Eventually it
Speaker 3: went away, but she hung out for quite some time.
Speaker 2: So did she just like get bored and leave or
Speaker 2: was there another like ceremony.
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I think it was. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I feel like I hope.
Speaker 2: She's not coming back. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: Well, college is no place for a little girl, is Yeah,
Speaker 1: she probably was bored, and you know what is she
Speaker 1: She's not paying for the tuition, she's not carrying around books,
Speaker 1: Like what is she doing? She's just sitting there in
Speaker 1: a dorm room or whatever.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, I know, yeah it can't be fun. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I have no idea, Like, honestly, a lot of it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is paranormal or just like
Speaker 3: dealing with college, but a lot of it's kind of fuzzy.
Speaker 3: At this point, I have no recollection really of how
Speaker 3: it ended. I just I just know that it was
Speaker 3: really creepy. At one point, I got like scratched on
Speaker 3: my hand, but I thought that was from a different
Speaker 3: ghost I was investigating. I don't know which one it was,
Speaker 3: but I attributed to her in some way. Such a
Speaker 3: mess anyway, I don't the end.
Speaker 1: But that's the weird thing. It's like she could still
Speaker 1: be She could have been like, all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back to the house and like look through the
Speaker 1: windows or like where is she? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That makes me more nervous that, like you don't know
Speaker 2: where she went because now I'm like.
Speaker 1: And the fact that she can like leave her property, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's scary. She could be anywhere. You better hope she
Speaker 1: doesn't find out where you are.
Speaker 2: You get your stepmom back over there, do some.
Speaker 3: Well, you're totally right, especially because like I feel like,
Speaker 3: when you think of ghost haunting an area, it's almost
Speaker 3: as if they can't leave the space. So how was
Speaker 3: she able to go beyond beyond the normal limitations?
Speaker 1: Like did she attach to you?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: She got like a like a visitor pass. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: was allowed to leave a hall pass, to leave a
Speaker 1: hall pass, a visa.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe her visa expired to go back home?
Speaker 1: Yeah, her ghosts bees.
Speaker 3: That you know how it might have ended? Is the
Speaker 3: house where I actually got scratched really badly. If you
Speaker 3: went to college with me, you saw the scratch. It
Speaker 3: like lasted for a very long time. One of the
Speaker 3: houses we were at all the time where that happened
Speaker 3: had a little girl there and at the ghost of
Speaker 3: a little girl.
Speaker 1: Little girls, what do they do?
Speaker 3: And so I'm wondering if the two of them became
Speaker 3: friends when I she's like finally someone might I think
Speaker 3: she maybe just stayed at that house, Like can you
Speaker 3: move into another haunted house when you're a ghost?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh do you need there a consent?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like they'd probably be like, this is
Speaker 2: a little full around.
Speaker 3: We're already packed. I don't know. But ever since that house,
Speaker 3: I've never interacted with that little girl again.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. You've now told me
Speaker 1: in the past thirty minutes about three little girls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, upsetting, something's going on.
Speaker 1: Who would be the scariest ghost girl out of Queen
Speaker 1: Mary ghost, the girl ghost that stalked you, or the
Speaker 1: one the third one from the house?
Speaker 3: I guess the one that I grew up with that
Speaker 3: was like desperately trying to get into the house.
Speaker 2: Yours seemed way more personal. Yeah, it seems like she
Speaker 2: had like a specific yeah thing for you alone.
Speaker 3: And I was not a fan of her. The one
Speaker 3: at the at the random house. She was super chill.
Speaker 3: She was the she she liked cookies and ice cream
Speaker 3: and like the worst that ever happened was you heard
Speaker 3: her like giggling, but like not in a creepy way. Somehow,
Speaker 3: she was lovely. I liked her a lot. She was
Speaker 3: really chill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because those damn little kid ghosts nothing I've never
Speaker 1: I'm a stand up comedian, I've never had an audience
Speaker 1: laugh as much as these little kid ghosts every single time.
Speaker 1: They're just what the hell are you laughing at? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: I will tell you the really cool one she was
Speaker 3: because she really was drawn to grandparent people. And so
Speaker 3: whenever I would also do a tour I would bring,
Speaker 3: I would always ask the older person on the tour
Speaker 3: to do most of the talking for the night, to
Speaker 3: try to get the machines to go off, and she
Speaker 3: really gravitated towards like grandpa's and so one of them
Speaker 3: started talking about, oh, do you like ice cream? Do
Speaker 3: you like cookies? And that was when we got the
Speaker 3: biggest laugh ever. So apparently they don't really they could
Speaker 3: laugh at anything, So I.
Speaker 2: Don't that wasn't even a funny joke. And she was laughing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was having the time of her life with
Speaker 3: the concept of cookies.
Speaker 1: So you know, he says that to me, my first
Speaker 1: instinct is he's like, do you like cookies? Do you
Speaker 1: like ice cream? And she's like, ha, no, I like souls.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's actually maybe maybe I should have been more
Speaker 3: scared to.
Speaker 1: You wish in your dreams? What do you guys think
Speaker 1: of haunted dolls? Do you believe in that as a
Speaker 1: concept Ooh? Okay.
Speaker 2: EMM has covered several on the podcast, and some of
Speaker 2: them to this day, we do not even say the
Speaker 2: full name because like they're known to cause chaos, and
Speaker 2: we did when we did the podcast episode, and the
Speaker 2: number of emails and messages we got from people fender benders,
Speaker 2: bloody noses for the first time in their lives, like
Speaker 2: just the really bizarre freak accidents, and so we said,
Speaker 2: we are never saying her name again on the podcast.
Speaker 2: We abbreviate it, or we don't say it at all.
Speaker 1: Is part of her name. The dolly, How did you know.
Speaker 2: Does it start with a P, because that's the one
Speaker 2: we're talking about pee and it rhymes with leggy, leggy.
Speaker 1: I don't think I know about this one.
Speaker 3: Is she at Zach Began's or she is at Zach
Speaker 3: bag You know what the funny part is, we won't
Speaker 3: even say her name, and we're so scared of her,
Speaker 3: but we've looked her in the eyes when we went
Speaker 3: to the museum.
Speaker 2: He has a whole room set up just for this doll,
Speaker 2: and she like talks through a spirit box or whatever.
Speaker 2: And you're supposed to like say hello, say goodbye, be
Speaker 2: very polite. There's just a lot of so I mean,
Speaker 2: I want to say, like, oh, Hanna whatever, but like
Speaker 2: clearly I can't say that, because we very.
Speaker 3: Much we bide. We have had someone send us like
Speaker 3: straight out of straight out of a horror movie. Someone
Speaker 3: sent us like a plywood a crate, but we had
Speaker 3: to pry open, had a bunch of hay in it.
Speaker 1: Like straw.
Speaker 2: We had to pull out straight out of the movie.
Speaker 3: And it was a doll with her like horse, like
Speaker 3: a porcelain horse, like a two foot doll. And the
Speaker 3: note with no return address said please take this every
Speaker 3: time we bring it into the house, our barn catches
Speaker 3: on fire. Oh so why do we?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: I was you guys don't have barns, do you?
Speaker 2: So? Then no, but we lived in southern California. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not starting in freaking wildfire, and so
Speaker 2: em was like, bye, I'm going home, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: now I have this doll in my house. So I
Speaker 2: just like, as I always seem to do, put her
Speaker 2: in the closet and just like forgot about her for
Speaker 2: a long time. And then I think eventually we.
Speaker 1: Did lot he with the shoes. The shoes.
Speaker 2: I think eventually we just said like goodbye, we love you,
Speaker 2: don't hurt us, and put her in the trash. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's safe to say, you guys believe in
Speaker 1: this kind of a thing, yes, do you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: You know, it's complicated. My belief on everything is like sure,
Speaker 1: I think it's very possible. I think that there's there's
Speaker 1: probably some things that are like the real deal, right, right,
Speaker 1: and then there's a lot of things that want to
Speaker 1: be the real deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say maybe eBay is not like the
Speaker 2: home of all the legit.
Speaker 1: Now you want your mouth because I need that's going
Speaker 1: to create some tension.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, No, eBay, it gets wild out there, exactly.
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's sort of just like when
Speaker 1: like a new fancy outfit comes out, and then there's
Speaker 1: all these little companies that are doing like their own
Speaker 1: little knockoff ris or whatever. There's a million different versions
Speaker 1: of that kind of a thing, and I think with eBay,
Speaker 1: I mean, I personally do not believe it. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you. I get messages from people that take this
Speaker 1: shit very seriously, but particularly the fact that allatms I'll
Speaker 1: click on these sellers pages and they sell like a
Speaker 1: hundred of these damn dolls. Yeah, And I'm like, seriously,
Speaker 1: or did you just go to Goodwill?
Speaker 2: And I mean yes, exactly, Like I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: buy that.
Speaker 1: I feel like, so I've seen the same bios on
Speaker 1: different dogs, then.
Speaker 2: They copy paste it. I know, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yes, this ship is.
Speaker 2: Oh, she has a kind of an attitude and she
Speaker 2: likes the color green, and it's like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: are well talking about?
Speaker 3: I can't tell if the what would be the morally
Speaker 3: right thing to do if you actually had one of
Speaker 3: the real deal dolls because I get that you're trying.
Speaker 3: You don't want it in your house, but also like,
Speaker 3: do you sell it on eBay?
Speaker 1: Maybe not?
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, but I leave you with love
Speaker 2: and light in the domum.
Speaker 1: Greg and Dana Newkirk and oh there you go.
Speaker 2: Give it to my new friends, my new local.
Speaker 1: That's what their new documentary is about is somebody had
Speaker 1: an object that they gave to them that was sort
Speaker 1: of like a doll and was legitimately haunted, and they
Speaker 1: captured a lot of stuff on camera and they dealt
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: I didn't know they were Cincinnatians. I'm so excited because
Speaker 2: I do know them, like by name. So I gotta,
Speaker 2: I gotta, you gotta link up with them. They're the
Speaker 2: coolest link.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I happened to go to eBay and I
Speaker 1: found a doll that I would like to share with
Speaker 1: you all today.
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
Speaker 1: This is a segment I like to call the dolls
Speaker 1: are living all right? Jieha? Can you throw up this doll?
Speaker 3: Oh my boo.
Speaker 1: She looks like she's on a roller coaster ride. She
Speaker 1: is having the time of her life. This is definitely
Speaker 1: an example of you can't just put self tanner on
Speaker 1: your face. You have to put it on your whole box.
Speaker 1: She's got sort of an orange face with white. It's snooky,
Speaker 1: Niki former president. Either way works.
Speaker 2: She is missing a pinky finger on that right hand,
Speaker 2: which is kind of upsetting.
Speaker 3: What's going on here?
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a story there. She kind of her
Speaker 1: dress is like a little scandalous. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: mesh situation. I don't know what's like a nightie.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to cover it all up, you know,
Speaker 3: she what's the hair is that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I don't like it when the when the hair looks
Speaker 2: like it came off a person.
Speaker 1: You know, that hair is fried. I don't that's all.
Speaker 2: Somebody did to that hair. But it's not looking good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is Kentucky fried chicken on her head. Well,
Speaker 1: of course these dolls come with biographies. This one's kind
Speaker 1: of long. Maybe i'll paraphrase just a little bit here,
Speaker 1: but this is Constance and Constance. Constance is currently going
Speaker 1: for twenty nine dollars and ninety eight cents and she
Speaker 1: has zero bids on her.
Speaker 3: Oh I was gonna say, yeah, highway bargain. But all right,
Speaker 3: Hyway robbery.
Speaker 1: So it says Constance was pushed on to me by
Speaker 1: my dear friend Claire. Claire's grandmother passed away, says she
Speaker 1: passed on to the void of the unknown after life.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, just after March of twenty twenty three. Constance. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can hear, there's sirens in
Speaker 1: the background. They're coming to get her.
Speaker 2: And makes it very spooky for sure.
Speaker 1: Constance, uh was her name, the grandmother, and so she
Speaker 1: also named the doll Constance after herself. Wait, baby, I
Speaker 1: guess So I don't know. Do people really name their
Speaker 1: dolls after themselves? Maybe So that's what happened to Robert
Speaker 1: the doll, Remember the one in Florida. That's the one.
Speaker 1: I'm the scaredest dog. He's scary.
Speaker 2: I've visited him before and I was like, I will
Speaker 2: not take your photo, Like, but.
Speaker 3: He is named after his owner, Robert.
Speaker 2: So Robert named his doll Robert. And then he said, no,
Speaker 2: I have to change my name and changed it to
Speaker 2: his own middle name because he's like, that's Robert now.
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is nothing.
Speaker 1: This is Oh my god. That doll is scary to
Speaker 1: me and powerful anyway, sorry, he made a man change
Speaker 1: his name. Basically, I mean yeah, okay, so basically basically, So,
Speaker 1: the grandmother died and Claire, the seller's friend, took Constance
Speaker 1: the doll out of the dead hands of the woman.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so so her grandma. So Claire's grandmother
Speaker 1: died with Constance in her hand. Oh like literally, that's
Speaker 1: what hands hands? Wait, I think it's at the funeral
Speaker 1: she wanted to be buried with her. Maybe, so she
Speaker 1: plucked Constance the doll from her lifeless hands. Constance looked
Speaker 1: de piece, but Claire wept for her grandmother is now gone. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so she was the constant that died favorite doll. She
Speaker 1: was a haunted doll collector. The grandma that died. She
Speaker 1: would take her to church with her, says, she would
Speaker 1: take her to cracker barrel with her, and she even
Speaker 1: fed her chicken noodle soup. And it does say in parentheses, creamy.
Speaker 2: You know that doll smells nasty because there is an
Speaker 2: actual hole in the mouth of this doll's.
Speaker 1: Think of them, Think of the mold.
Speaker 2: Think it's probably alive, like of its you know, it's
Speaker 2: probably developed its own life force.
Speaker 3: At this maybe it's because you said Kentucky fried chicken hair.
Speaker 3: But I've smelled cracker barrel on this baby since I
Speaker 3: saw the picture, so.
Speaker 1: Very cracker barrel fits. Okay, so this is so much. Basically,
Speaker 1: Claire tried to keep the dolls because she wanted to
Speaker 1: keep her grandmother's memory alive. But Claire has been disturbed
Speaker 1: by the doll too much. She tells me that the
Speaker 1: doll has been whispering in the night and causing chaos
Speaker 1: in her home. Constance can levitate lamps and has broken
Speaker 1: several items in Claire's house. Claire tells me that Constance
Speaker 1: even moves on her own and is in constant danger
Speaker 1: of breaking. It is by sheer luck that Constance is
Speaker 1: still intact. She's a polterguy's activity. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: There's a lot here, but basically, wait. Claire even resorted
Speaker 1: wait a second. Claire requested my help to get Constance
Speaker 1: the hell away from her. Claire even resorted to drug use,
Speaker 1: Oh my God, to cope with having Constance around. Claire
Speaker 1: repeated that Constance is a devious spirit and shouldn't even
Speaker 1: exist in this world. The supernatural is very real. With constants.
Speaker 1: I had to take Constance from Claire. Claire had to
Speaker 1: face the fact that she could no longer keep her
Speaker 1: grandmother's doll Constance is highly supernatural and just too much
Speaker 1: for anyone to deal with. Good luck. So if you've
Speaker 1: got twenty nine dollars in ninety eight cents, yeah, all
Speaker 1: that for help yourself. All this can be your.
Speaker 3: For thirty bucks. Levitating lamps was a strong lead. That
Speaker 3: was before you even listing any other paranormal stuff. To know
Speaker 3: that your shit's gonna fly.
Speaker 2: And break and shatter. I'm not into this now my house.
Speaker 1: No, I'm an antier queen. Everything in here is a
Speaker 1: treasure of mine. If somebody is picking it up and
Speaker 1: throwing it, you're gone.
Speaker 2: You're dead, You're out, You're you're going to the void,
Speaker 2: the misty void of beyond or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, it happened to I will want my I would
Speaker 1: demand my twenty nine ninety eight back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get your refut Also, like in the world
Speaker 3: of girl math, like is this actually a sound investment
Speaker 3: because you're got to pay for insurance because are gonna
Speaker 3: get broken everywhere. Like it's just not it's not worth
Speaker 3: like not cheap.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, you know what else is that? Cheap cans
Speaker 1: of creamy soup?
Speaker 2: Campbell's nothing else will do.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I can't imagine a worse thing to
Speaker 3: start with when telling me you need to buy this
Speaker 3: because it's got old decade old creamy soup in its mouth.
Speaker 1: Oh and the old lady's dead hands that were catched
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's a lot. It's a lot. Do you
Speaker 3: think do you think as someone who's like more of
Speaker 3: the doll world?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 3: Is this a legit haunting?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What's your scale?
Speaker 2: Like? Where do you land with this one? Because I
Speaker 2: don't know. She looks like it, but I don't know if.
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. I looked at the the seller's page
Speaker 1: and they didn't have other ghost dolls.
Speaker 2: Oh that's I feel like a tick in their favor.
Speaker 1: You know, that's definitely something good. Maybe I'm wrong though,
Speaker 1: cause I get them confused.
Speaker 2: There's no shortage.
Speaker 1: I can't believe how many of these damn dolls are
Speaker 1: in my life? Have you really crazy off ebit?
Speaker 3: Ever?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? I will not.
Speaker 3: But do you secretly wish someone would gift you one?
Speaker 3: Because we can get you constants for twenty nine and nine. No, nah,
Speaker 3: we have that in the budget. We expect we could
Speaker 3: expense that for sure. You just say the word, do
Speaker 3: you want to smell like soup? We got you?
Speaker 1: That is so sweet? But that is so sweet. I honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't want to take my chances. That's as much
Speaker 1: as I don't believe in this, it's it's just not
Speaker 1: a that's not I'm not a doll queen. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want them like that.
Speaker 3: I feel like when it comes to getting one of
Speaker 3: these dolls, there has to be a pro to it.
Speaker 2: Right, Why would you want even if you don't believe
Speaker 2: why would you want to manifest like oh it and
Speaker 2: all your shit's going to bring Why.
Speaker 3: Would you want even if you don't believe in ghosts? Like,
Speaker 3: why would you want an old baby?
Speaker 1: You know, an old angry baby doll?
Speaker 3: Probably it probably needs a bath, you know. So like,
Speaker 3: I just like I'm trying to figure out if I
Speaker 3: were a doll collector. Maybe because she's got an interesting
Speaker 3: story that's worth it. But I don't see where it's
Speaker 3: outweighing the cons here.
Speaker 2: But I feel like I could tell chat GBT to
Speaker 2: write me a story about a doll and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this one has a story too.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's like it's missing a pinky.
Speaker 1: It's like the hair is a mess. Like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't need this in my house. I got enough problems,
Speaker 1: so I yeah, I don't. Sometimes I'll see ads where
Speaker 1: they're like this will give you money and fortune or whatever,
Speaker 1: and first of all, I'm like, why would you get
Speaker 1: rid of it? Right? Why are you asking a dollar
Speaker 1: for it or whatever? Sometimes they're like so cheap, or
Speaker 1: they'll just they'll talk about these dolls like they're the
Speaker 1: best thing in the whole wide world. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: why are you getting rid of it?
Speaker 2: I don't under she sounds like a delightful house guest. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's wrong?
Speaker 1: But I guess the only way I can see something
Speaker 1: like this where I'd be like, Okay, maybe I want
Speaker 1: to buy that, is for like an n Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: buy Okay, yes, I'll send it to not to my address,
Speaker 1: but like the worse, the better I like it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not going to be discreet because anyone
Speaker 2: who opens an anonymous box with this and it will
Speaker 2: know this it's enemy.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's I'm following this one guy on TikTok.
Speaker 3: I wish I knew his name, but he's an engineer
Speaker 3: who was taking.
Speaker 1: Old dolls and he is uh.
Speaker 3: Hooking them up to chat GBT so they talk to
Speaker 3: you forget it, And like, can you imagine this little
Speaker 3: girl just having something to say with chat GBT in
Speaker 3: her brain?
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, her mouth full, probably with that
Speaker 1: old creamy sou just be ggle gargling. Yeah, no, Gods,
Speaker 1: speaking of ghost talking, can I play you a couple
Speaker 1: of EVPs?
Speaker 2: Yes, I would love nothing.
Speaker 1: Please, it's time for EVP or ev plase. Okay, So
Speaker 1: what I do is I go to YouTube TikTok all
Speaker 1: over the place. I find evp's Electronic Voice Phenomena. These
Speaker 1: are alleged voices that people have captured of ghosts and
Speaker 1: posted on the internet, and I've got two of them
Speaker 1: for you today, and I'm going to play them for you.
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what you hear, if
Speaker 1: you hear anything, and then I'll give you some options
Speaker 1: of what the ghost hunter believes that the ghost is saying.
Speaker 1: So this first one is from GSI Paranormal on YouTube
Speaker 1: and it is at a private investigation that was at
Speaker 1: a friend's house of theirs in West Yorkshire, Yorkshire, which
Speaker 1: I believe he was the one in England. What is
Speaker 1: this ghost saying?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Wait, so there's somebody talking. Could you hear that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like a human talking, and then there's like another
Speaker 1: voice above it that's like, that's the one that we're
Speaker 1: listening for, trying to figure out what is that saying? Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. I feel like it's.
Speaker 3: Can you play it one more time?
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: It sounds like somebody just going like to me, like
Speaker 2: they're like mopping the floor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or yeah, wait, let me do it one more time.
Speaker 1: I feel like it sounds like like crickets in a
Speaker 1: swamp or something like. It's not okay whatever.
Speaker 3: I feel like I heard like I didn't hear any words,
Speaker 3: but it was either it sounded like a wheezy laugh
Speaker 3: or like a nose blow or something.
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, sinus issue.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of options for you.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Did they believe it was a give me cheese please?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: That that was me?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sorry? Is it b if you need me? If you
Speaker 1: need me, I'll be over here. Is it c take it?
Speaker 1: Ey or d it's just somebody's nose sniffling. Okay, well
Speaker 1: now we know those Let me play it again, all right,
Speaker 1: finally a sort of here if you need.
Speaker 3: You can also hear if you need me, if you need.
Speaker 1: Me, that's what they thought.
Speaker 2: Let me play Okay, I hear it. I'll be blowing
Speaker 2: my nose over here.
Speaker 3: See. Here's the thing though, because we've been as we're
Speaker 3: we've been doing our own uh like content building for
Speaker 3: our tour. One of the most horrendous parts of that
Speaker 3: whole gig is after we go investigating, having to listen
Speaker 3: to all like hours and hours and hours footage and
Speaker 3: doing this just like waiting to find any piece of audio,
Speaker 3: and eventually it's crazy making, which I one of the
Speaker 3: reasons I actually I do like the first draft of
Speaker 3: going through all the video and audio and I don't
Speaker 3: want Christine to hear any of it because I want
Speaker 3: to make sure that I've got like a pair of
Speaker 3: fresh ears to listen. When I'm starting to lose it,
Speaker 3: I'm like, did it say anything? And even if even
Speaker 3: if we think the audio said something, if it's muddled
Speaker 3: at all, it's content we can't use because we don't
Speaker 3: want people in the audience to be like, well, I
Speaker 3: guess you know, it could be, it could be, it
Speaker 3: could be.
Speaker 2: I will say one of my least favorite tasks when
Speaker 2: we're doing that is and we'll send over like this
Speaker 2: is the best EVP that we got, like listen to
Speaker 2: and it sounds like it's saying this, And then I
Speaker 2: go and find all the like the cameras to see
Speaker 2: like what was being fit and I'm like, Eva was humming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, uh, that was me literally blowing my nose.
Speaker 3: One time I had one where I was literally someone
Speaker 3: blowing blowing but in another room and echoed around the
Speaker 3: rooms where it ended up sounding like a little girl
Speaker 3: screaming for help. It was yeah, like it was like
Speaker 3: help and it was her.
Speaker 1: Going yeah, yeah, I know. Well it's also hard. It's
Speaker 1: hard for me because you in order to get a
Speaker 1: good one, you have to be have the unique ability
Speaker 1: to shut the fuck up, which I can't do. And
Speaker 1: so I'll just be talking and then you'll hear like
Speaker 1: like as I'm talking and you're like, damn it, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what that said.
Speaker 3: That's we've had to have like actual sit downs before
Speaker 3: we go investigating, and like say, just don't fucking talk anymore,
Speaker 3: or like one of the or one of the big
Speaker 3: things I've always said when I first I was trying
Speaker 3: to teach Christine and Eva some of the things I
Speaker 3: had learned I and my big thing was like, just
Speaker 3: don't whisper because later, when you listen to your audio,
Speaker 3: it's you're gonna think it's a demon. And every like
Speaker 3: five minutes of our first investigation, someone was whispering.
Speaker 2: It would be like it would literally be Eva being like,
Speaker 2: do you want a piece of string cheese? Like there's
Speaker 2: a demon, and I'm like, oh, even and I were
Speaker 2: eating our snacks that we weren't.
Speaker 3: Supposed to bring. It was also we were at we
Speaker 3: were in at the Queen Marry and we were like
Speaker 3: in the depths of the engine roiler, so everything was echoing,
Speaker 3: so if you go it sounded like it was like
Speaker 3: in the world. So if you ever go to the
Speaker 3: specifically the underbelly of the Queen Mary with audio equipment,
Speaker 3: truly try not to whisper. Like take our advice, please.
Speaker 1: Good to know, yeah, or like don't invite somebody like
Speaker 1: an old smoker, no raspy voices, yeah, no deep rasby Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: should we go get food exact cheese?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Here's one more EVP. This is from cold
Speaker 1: Spot TV on YouTube, and I don't know where exactly.
Speaker 1: It was in a haunted house and it was in
Speaker 1: the bathroom of the haunted house and they recorded this.
Speaker 1: What is it saying? Girl? What? I apologize? These aren't
Speaker 1: the best I've ever found in my life. It sounds
Speaker 1: like a deep voice I heard far away.
Speaker 3: I heard a voice. I have no idea what I said.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me do it again.
Speaker 2: Oh I heard it more that time. Yeah, me too, Yeah,
Speaker 2: close the door or.
Speaker 1: Oh billing voll billy. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It sounds like I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think it's the closest.
Speaker 1: Well, let me give you some options. Did cold Spot
Speaker 1: TV think it was a I'm a ghost? B? Oh,
Speaker 1: that's worse. C all this work? Or d it puts
Speaker 1: the lotion on? Let me play it again.
Speaker 3: Actually I heard I'm a ghost, which is so stupid.
Speaker 1: What was option B again? Oh, that's worse.
Speaker 2: I think I hear that, but I'm not sure they
Speaker 2: believe it was all this work. Oh, I can hear
Speaker 2: it now.
Speaker 1: But you know what's interesting, Okay, a little trick answer
Speaker 1: sort of because they also they gave two options. Okay,
Speaker 1: the other option that they thought was August fourth. Oh
Speaker 1: oh oh, I just got a little chill. I feel
Speaker 1: like that I could hear it. Let me play that
Speaker 1: again now.
Speaker 3: I.
Speaker 2: Wonder what happened August fourth birthday.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, wow, we've already done an hour. Sorry, we talked,
Speaker 1: we talked over the dream. Well, we'll have to do
Speaker 1: this again sometime because there's so much more to talk about.
Speaker 1: So yeah, thanks for doing that. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: So happy I got to meet you. Guys. Tell everyone
Speaker 1: you know what you want them to know about you
Speaker 1: and where to find you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So our podcast is called and that's why we drink.
Speaker 2: It's a paranormal slash true crime podcast and you can
Speaker 2: find us anywhere fine podcasts are posted and published, and
Speaker 2: uh you can check and that's why I drink dot
Speaker 2: com for live tour dates if you want to see
Speaker 2: any of our footage from you know, our most recent investigation.
Speaker 3: And we also have our socials are ATWWD podcast and
Speaker 3: we have a book called a Haunted Road at list.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you can find that where you probably
Speaker 3: buy all your other books, but we encourage small business shopping.
Speaker 1: Yeay, all right, Well tell Harry I said, hi, oh no,
Speaker 1: and thank you.
Speaker 2: Tell Constance when she arrives at your doors in a
Speaker 2: few two to three business takes.
Speaker 1: Soup mouth, bye, bye, bye, Thank you so much to
Speaker 1: m and Christine. You guys, we got a real doozy
Speaker 1: for you next week. We got a real blood curdler
Speaker 1: for you next week, so get your blood ready to
Speaker 1: get curdled. I love you all, both living and dead.
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
Speaker 1: haunt me.
Speaker 2: Hey bye.
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Speaker 1: producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the
Speaker 1: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed
Speaker 1: by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the
Speaker 1: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising
Speaker 1: Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by the spine
Speaker 1: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac.
Speaker 1: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the
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