1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Piece of the planet, Charlamagna God here. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: Before we get into today's episode, we've got to celebrate 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 2: the Black Effect Podcast Network. It's turning five years old, man, 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: five years of powerful voices, unforgettable moments in the community 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: that keeps growing. 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: This is the power of the platform. Now let's get 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: into it. What up, y'all? This is your main man, 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Memphis bleak right here. 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: Black Effect Network and partnership with my gods over at 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: Drink Champs Big with the year Memphis. 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm back at it, niggas. Notice the difference. Just pron 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: pressy no stones. Yeah, y'all you already know what it is. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: Back with yours truly another episode of Rock Solid and 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: you like, like I tell you, man, if you're on 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: this platform, it's two things. One you my brother. Two, 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: you've always been silent and this man saying right here 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: been both things since the beginning, even through the drama, 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: he stays silent. 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: Welcome, my g l thank you for man than you 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: having me g everything good man, blessed ye. 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: Let's see you fucking winning, winning on winning. 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 3: I'm so happy for you likewise, it is what it is, 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: is moving. Then you came up with the fleet talk 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: hot what made you get into this space like the 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: pod world and all that. 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: So, so to be honest with you, first of all, 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: thank you and congratulations to everything you gotta go around 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: to because appreciate. We was just talking before we started filming, 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: and you got a bunch of shit going on, and 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: I didn't know about appreciation. 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: And that's what it's really about. Growing. 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: But as far as the pad space is concerned, this 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: would happened to be totally honest with you. It wasn't 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 4: about the pod. It was about this, this straight up honesty. 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: Nor He kept asking me and shout out to Normy. No, 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: that's my brother, so he kept you know, me and 39 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: Nori is damn near neighbors in Miami. Like Norri literally 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: lives ten blocks away from me in Miami. So I'm 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: bumping into Norriy. He like, do the show Kenned your 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: drink Chimps And I'm like, I don't know. I don't 43 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: feel like doing drink Champs. I don't want to do 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: drink Champs And he like, yo, dude, because Norby so Norri, 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: it is my brother so I'm gonna be straight up honest. 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we was doing it. 47 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: We had a situation, not necessarily Norri, but the niggas 48 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 4: he used to be with, had a situation in the 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: streets with me and some of my niggas to where 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: I felt Norrie was part of that. And so I 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: never really had a problem with Norri. But it's so 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 4: so let's say like this, I'm just give you an example, 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: and me and nor talked about it on the show. 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: So let's give an example. 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Right. 56 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 4: Let's say me and you hanging out and I remember, 57 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: now I'm just gonna use this as an example because 58 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: I remember the name of your crew is get Low. 59 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: So the main nigga from Get Low outside of you, 60 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: was talking shit about me and then tried to get 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: one of my niggas on my team to come at me. 62 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: So I'm like, I said, thank that nigga in a 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: fight for then, I like, these niggas kind of dangerous, 64 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 4: the niggas now used to be with, but we kind 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 4: of debted it. So me and Norwy after that, I'm like, 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: I can't. I don't know if I could trust Bleak 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: like that, because niggas don't got niggas and you and 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: you don't. You never said nothing to me about it. 69 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: Decent that you be with so me and and we 70 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: good everything I'm talking about me and Noya you can do. 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 4: But Goods always hesitant to do it. But it was 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 4: dope because we discussed it on his show. 73 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was like, I told him. 74 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: I was like, nor yeah't trust He's like, come on man, 75 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: I was like, it was dope. 76 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: It was a dope moment. So shout out to Norri. 77 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: But to be totally honest with you, the reason that 78 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: I did it was because I have a product. It's 79 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: called Pink Horsepower. 80 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah I know, I know. 81 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: So that product is that it was doing really well 82 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: for me. And when I went on Norriy's show, Drink Champs, 83 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: the product did like seven hundred percent more than what 84 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: I was doing on my own. I'm like, hold on, hold, 85 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: hold the fuck on, yeah, hold on there we may 86 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: we wan four hundred this week off, just off nor 87 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: Rey show. I need to see what's going on. So 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: then shot like shot nooy. So then I went on 89 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: a million dollars worth of game. Shout out to Gilly 90 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: and Wallow as well, a million dollars worth for game, 91 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: and the same thing happened. I put the product on 92 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: the show, shit zoomed up six seven hundred percent. So 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: I'm sitting there saying, hold on, man, what's going on? 94 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: How this is a commercial podcast? 95 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: Yes? 96 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: So I went back to Wallow and I'm like, yo, 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: I want to pay you to put this on the 98 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 4: show every weekend. While I was like, no, Cam, don't 99 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: work like that. We already you come up here, sell 100 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: what you want, but we already have a deal with 101 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: other people that's in the same lane issue. And then 102 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: he started breaking it down to me, shout to Wallow 103 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: because Wallow she is information like a motherfucker. And he 104 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: explained to me he liked, naw, this sponsors our shoulder, 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 4: This sponsors our show, This sponsors our show this month. 106 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is big fucking business. 107 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying after myself, I'm going to 108 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: do my own show, and I'm gonna make it about sports. 109 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: The reason I made it about sports is because I'm 110 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 4: sitting there arguing with my niggas on the. 111 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: Phone every day about sports. 112 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: Any at my phone one day shot with my man 113 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: sin City, I look at my phone one day and 114 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: the ship said two hours and forty seven minutes, and 115 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 4: we was arguing the whole time about sports. So I'm like, man, 116 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give this shit a shot. So I shot 117 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: a few episodes. My mom got six, so I took 118 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: off for a while. I invited Mace on the show, like, yo, 119 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 4: come be a guest that Mace liked the vibe and 120 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 4: he don't like nothing, and so he said, would you 121 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: want to be partners? I'm like, hell, yeah, let's do it. 122 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: And we shot about thirty five episodes. We shot liked 123 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: eight episodes. In office started coming in and we shot 124 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 4: about thirty five episodes, and then Underdog came in with 125 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: a big offer. 126 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 3: So that's how I went. Seeing yall niggas in suits 127 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: every day. I'm proud of your niggas. Yea good man, 128 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: talking ship and looking good. 129 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: That was the vision. That was the vision seat. 130 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: When I first shot the show, people was like, Yo, 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: how is ESPN letting Kim come on here and curse 132 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: and do all that shit because the set So when 133 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 4: you have podcasts, right, that was my vision for I 134 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: shot it. You got niggas who do podcasts there in 135 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: the living room. They in the kitchen, they in the 136 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: fucking backyard. 137 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Everything. 138 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 4: Then you got these sports shows to have great backgrounds 139 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: and productions and so on and so forth. But the 140 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: two worlds never met street talk versus professional setting. 141 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna build a set. 142 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: You're gonna throw the suits on now, next thing you 143 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 4: fuck is up, nigga, next this track, fuck the Lakers. 144 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: Just so, now you're looking at a professional setting with 145 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: two niggas who just talk. So now, when niggas were 146 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: seeing it on the grind, like yo, what sports. Let 147 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 4: Kim and these niggas come on here talking like that, man. 148 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: But that was the vision, the professional setting meet the 149 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 4: podcast world to where it looks professionally dressed. 150 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: Great, but we still talking that ship. Yeah, man, shout 151 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: out because normal. He the reason why I'm doing it 152 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: right now. Bro gave me the major speech like bleak, 153 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: I'm telling you like you said, I saw the numbers 154 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: go up and. 155 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Was like, hold on, yeah, let me let me check 156 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: it out. 157 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: Now. 158 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: When I when I was talking to Norri. 159 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: Prior to hold on a second, you might want to 160 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: tell them to be quiet a little bit so that 161 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: shit don't bleed into what we're doing Yo. 162 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: Keep it down cause we were good. I appreciate you. 163 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah see, I'll be on point. I'll be on top 164 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: of all that man where he was at. 165 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was saying when Norri it was like Nory 166 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: was telling me all ship about uh can we could 167 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: do so caveall with the champagne. He had a lot 168 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 4: of vision and it was and it was dope. But 169 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: I was like, nobody doing the sports ship. So but 170 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: he definitely had vision. Nah, you definitely killed that man. 171 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take it back, man, because we got 172 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: to go back in the day because you know, people 173 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: only think when we sit down, it's about the drama, right, 174 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: I don't know before that bullshit rap beef, it was 175 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: we was. 176 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Fast, We was riding the rams, was pulling up with Dame. 177 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: I me at the club with Jay Like that's what 178 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: I mean, like the Confessions of Fire cam man, Like 179 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: that's the cam I met. 180 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: You was moving out here. 181 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: You met Kim with no deal. It wasn't even Confessions 182 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: of Fire. You know what's crazy believe is that I 183 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: was actually talked about this on drink champs. So I 184 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 4: got kicked out of college at the beginning of nineteen 185 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 4: ninety five. You know, I know Dame Sonce I was 186 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: ten eleven years old. He'd always been running around say 187 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this, do this, do this, And I 188 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 4: was saying this is probably like four days five days 189 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: after I got kicked out of college, and I'm like, 190 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: I need to figure this shit out. I ain't gonna 191 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: go to school. I see Dame busting moves or whatever. 192 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 4: And I actually talked about this on drink Champs and 193 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 4: I was like, I remember going to meet. 194 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: I was with Damon. 195 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 4: He was going to meet Jay and Tata and it's 196 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 4: a plot used to be called Jackson Hole. Oh yeah, 197 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: that come on kidding me, right, So I go meet, 198 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: I go meet. I'm with Dame. He goes meet them, 199 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: you know, tires with a girl. Jay is with a girl. 200 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: And I'm fucked up. And you know, Dave always had 201 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: some money whatever. So I'm just sitting there. I'm at 202 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: the point like this bleak to where I'm like, you know, 203 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: they teld me get full. I'm like, I hope I 204 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: don't got to pay for this because I don't even 205 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: know if I had ten dollars at the time. I'm 206 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 4: fresh kicked out of college in my grandmother house. And 207 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: when the bill came, Tatar pulled out this big ass 208 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 4: not I think I heard you say, and he paid 209 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: for it. And I'm like, you don't know how old TASiS. 210 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 4: You don't know if he's my age, you don't know 211 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: if he old age, right, But I'm just saying at 212 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 4: that moment, I'm thinking, it's a nigga my age who 213 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: got this much money? Like what do I gotta get 214 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: to it. It's times where you might not remember. I 215 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 4: know we talked about penns State, but it was yeah, 216 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: but it was a show. You guys did it at 217 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: the Castle in the Bronx. 218 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was at that show. So that's what I'm saying. 219 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: When I used to hear coming to age and see 220 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: what you guys was doing, I said, I gotta get 221 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: to it. So even Confessions of Fire Kim you may 222 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: not remember, but I remember all of that, to the 223 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 4: Castle de Penn States, to where I didn't have a 224 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: deal yo, and niggas trying to figure it out. 225 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you some off the wall ship right 226 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: now because it's real, right, And Yo, the baseline days 227 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: we was all cool, right. I heard you speak about 228 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: many times you, Jim all, y'all talk about like what 229 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: the difference was while y'all you know when a jay 230 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: and how shit went like that. 231 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: My question to you, though, one why y'all niggas shipped 232 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: on me? 233 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: On me? What did I say about you? Let me 234 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: niggas used to go. You was gunning at everybody that 235 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 3: used to be sitting there, like, Yo, niggas just was 236 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: my man, we gambling and base. Give me an example 237 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: of what you talked because I never remember watching the interview. 238 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: It was something y'all was on this when the DVDs. 239 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: Was heavy, and Yah, niggas was like yeah, and that 240 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: nigga bleak too, he could get It was you, Jim 241 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: and sitting in. 242 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there, I'm like, wait a minute. 243 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: I understand niggas got their boss beef, you know, it's 244 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: it's always behind the scenes, red tape ship. But I'm 245 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 3: sitting there like, why niggas this keep it on a hundred. 246 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: If you want to point out this scenario. 247 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. It was just it was just 248 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: rat bullshit. But no, no, I just always wanted to 249 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: ask you that, like what I do. I never had 250 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: a pub with you. So my thing was this and 251 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, like I said, this all water 252 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: under the bridge about me and you never had a never. 253 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: So when I got when I got him, like I said, 254 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 4: you explain a lot just being Jay's friend. You know 255 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And even with your interviews are laughing shit, 256 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: I'm like this, this is the way this nigga, you 257 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, even like what we talked about 258 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: on my show or heard so even like to the 259 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: lobby for a spot on my album, like I should 260 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: never even work left out my mind when your nigga 261 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: said lobby for a spot like not y, I ain't 262 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: here to get a spot young, I'm not here to 263 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: Libby for a spot on your album. One never went out. 264 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: But I want to answer your question, is that So 265 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: the way I felt was this, And I never had 266 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: a problem with you. If I said I probably was 267 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: just all mixed up. But I never had found with you. 268 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: That's what I was saying, like we never had nothing. 269 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: The whole thing is the way. So it was a 270 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: few things just for me. 271 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: When I came to Rockefeller, I was at the point 272 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: where I'm like, I'm coming into a scenario to where 273 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: this is already laid out, this is done, these niggas 274 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 4: is up. For me to even be a part of 275 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 4: this is a big move for Dame. Even bringing me in. 276 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: I'm very happy. So I always was like, and I'm 277 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 4: exaggerating when I say this, but I'm like almost a slave, 278 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 4: Like can I hold the door for you? 279 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: Your niggasm the store? 280 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: You was definitely grind when you first came around for 281 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,359 Speaker 3: I never take that away. 282 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 4: Right, And so I just, you know, everything I did 283 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: was like we're not gonna fuck this up. And then, 284 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: like I said, I just didn't know Jay's personality and 285 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: it was a time. I'll give you an example, right, 286 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: I had Kse Slay in the studio and they told 287 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: me that I ain't know if I tell you, And 288 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: Jay was like, Yo, be careful you bringing in here 289 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 4: because what if I would have slapped the ship out 290 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: the nigger And I'm like, I didn't. 291 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Know rest of beast. 292 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 3: Case. That's that's the That's another thing about Slay that 293 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: I respected, Like him and Jay had their differences, but 294 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: Slay always fucked with me, you know what I mean. 295 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: A mixtape together introduced me to Pat when Pat first 296 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: was coming up, you always let me come on to 297 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: bring my artists up the freestyle. So I always respected 298 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: that about Slay, Like he never threw me into the 299 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: politics of what they had going on. 300 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: But I didn't know. But I knew kse Slay had 301 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: the drama our. He's playing all the Dish records. But 302 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: it wasn't like he would play NAVES records and not 303 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: play J records. But I was like, if you play 304 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 4: NAS records, don't play last year whatever. I didn't know that, 305 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 4: so everything I did was like just basically, uh, trying 306 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 4: to just make sure that I'm good. It was even 307 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: a point where, like I said, the reason we did 308 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 4: the New York City record, I guess you know people's feeling. 309 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: The way Old Boy came out. It was doing good 310 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: and Jay put me back. 311 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: J J put me to side, and baselines like, Yo, 312 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's tension not tension, just that 313 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: I want to let you know, YO, were good, you're 314 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: doing your thing. 315 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: I said, well, if just gotta beat up right man, 316 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: he gotta be Yeah. 317 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: Man, I look back at hindsight and be like, damn 318 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: if what if if it never happened? 319 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 320 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: It's always gonna be that. But one thing I could say, 321 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: even through the drama, like I'm gonna be all the 322 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: way honest with you because you know you one nigga 323 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: I respect because you had a lot of drama in 324 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: this game and you stood on all ten. 325 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Now you never. 326 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: Like but you know when you when you don't up 327 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: with a rapper, you know his music just become like 328 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: about that. Absolutely, I ain't gonna front when you dropped 329 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: suck it or not. 330 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: I hated you. I was like, yo, this, how is 331 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: it gonna make this record when this drama? He'soking this before? Listen? 332 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: You know. 333 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: I said in the interview with you one time and 334 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: they was you was reading some of my lyrics and 335 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: he was like, man, I don't know about this bullshit. 336 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: And just do and this ship out. You know how 337 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: much bullshit I was hating, but I was that it 338 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: was not it had to be that. I understand. You 339 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: have to you have to be where you had to 340 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: be in that team. Like that was a little tension. Man. 341 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: I'm glad we put that behind each other to see 342 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: y'all at the what was it the B Sides two concert? 343 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: Man? That was that was all for the city. That 344 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: was big. 345 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 4: That was super dope, man, Like I said Jim. I 346 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: think Jim was working on Rock Nation at the time. 347 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: And then one called me that me and Jay spoke 348 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: and he spoke after that, and that was it was 349 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: a dope moment just the show. Like my niggas, I 350 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: never had a problem. It was always like like you 351 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: said on my show when niggas said that president. 352 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Shit, Yo, that changed everything over. 353 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna be honest with you on some g 354 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: shit I ain't saying on your show because I want 355 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: you to come here for me to say it. But 356 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: you know, I call Hole. I'm the one who called him. 357 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: It was like, Yo, my nigga, the fuck is going 358 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: on up here? How nigga's gonna make Cam the president? 359 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: Me and Beans been here for this law? 360 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: What's uping? J like, Nigga, I'm on the boat. 361 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: What you mean? 362 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: What's going on? He like, Yo, call Dame. 363 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: So I put him and Dame on the phone, and 364 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: him and Dame had words. I ain't gonna say what 365 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: they said because that's between them, but they had some 366 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: words and Jay was like, I sween. Jay started saying, 367 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: Jovey's home the global phone word. I'm like damn man 368 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: when he came home that swing shit just went upside down. Bro, 369 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: I can't imagine speaking on Jim. I heard you say 370 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: on your show, You're like, Yo, what's up with you 371 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: and Beans? It's the same I feel with you and Jim, Bro, like, 372 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: I need y'all to fix that. Do you think that 373 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: can ever be fixed? 374 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: Look to me, when it goes to the diplomat shit, right, 375 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: it's like. 376 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: The Williams, the Williams brothers from the other side of 377 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 4: the projects, like you know, yo, the Smith stuff, niggas 378 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 4: be bugging the diplomat thing. To me is like it's 379 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: no matter what. At one particular time, nobody was bigger 380 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: than the group. 381 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: That's right. 382 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 4: And I remember Dame saying that. Dame was like, Yo, 383 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: Cam I got because what happened is this, I got 384 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: a fucked up deal, epic. I had to get the 385 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 4: death Jam. When I got the Rockefeller, I started maneuvering 386 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 4: like I was in a funked up situation. So when 387 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: I'm trying to get Jim on Joelle's I remember I'm 388 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 4: fighting for Jim. Nobody believed Jim was a rapper. I'm like, Yo, nah, Jim, 389 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 4: You're gonna direct my videos. Jim, motherfucker, you gonna wave 390 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 4: with the deal, this down and the third. Basically I'm 391 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: fighting for all of us. So I remember I started 392 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: getting the Diplomat mixtapes and the shit was hot, and 393 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 4: Dame was like, Cam, you might want to solw that. 394 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: Damn these niggas. You know, if you put you out, 395 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: wait a while for the Diplomat. So therefore then it's 396 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: not the same thing. I'm like, nobody got tied away. 397 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: Y'all be in a comfortable situation, right. All my niggas 398 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: been fucked up. The last three albums were trying to 399 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: get on. 400 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: So even like with Jim, I didn't get him this 401 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: first deal at Cotch, like I I got the single 402 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 4: part of me the artist deal in Rockefeller. I went 403 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: to Kevin Lows and le Or to get the joint 404 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 4: venture deal for Joel's and uh, the Diplomat album. Then 405 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: Dame just came and started flipping talking about you ain't 406 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 4: doing no deal with Cam. If I would have came 407 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: and at you for this deal, you would have told 408 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: me no. So I ended up going through Rockefeller death 409 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: Jim for Diplomats and Jewel's when it was just gonna 410 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: be diplomat death Jim. Oh wow, Yeah, but dame flipping 411 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: out on Kevin and Kevin I remember sitting there, He's like, dang, 412 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 4: I don't make money off albums. I get paid a salary. 413 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 4: I don't give a those through June for depth Jim whatever, 414 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: But back to the diplomat thing. Look, I always wish 415 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: Jim the best. I hope he does well. He came 416 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 4: a long way, you know what I'm saying, Frank, Yeah, 417 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying, y'all, Bros, I want to 418 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: tell you someth I'm talking about. Just from not being 419 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: my man, y'all realized this is my man who could 420 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: wrap it, turned into my hate man. It turned into artists, 421 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 4: director videos. So his hustle is impeccable far as me 422 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 4: far at the diplomat. Yeah, question is this though, You 423 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 4: got to think about this, Bleak. We put out our 424 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: first mixtape probably two thousand and one, four years ago. Yeah, 425 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: the album came out two thousand and three. So you 426 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 4: sit there and you sit there and say, okay, two 427 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 4: thousand and one to let's say we broke up two 428 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: thousand and seven, even if you give it two thousand 429 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: and eight got a six seven year run. Music is 430 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: just so powerful, the logos still, people just love it. 431 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 4: First reunion I'm talking about after we broke up got back? 432 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 4: What level was in twenty ten? 433 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the. 434 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: First reunion show we did if we can't get it together. 435 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: Now it's been two down ten to twenty twenty five. 436 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 4: So the reunions and arguments and fighting has been fifteen years. 437 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: The run was only seven years. 438 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: We got fifteen years of disputes longer than the run. 439 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 4: The run was seven years. The disputes is going on. Taffan, Yo, 440 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: we'll get together here and there, this, that and the third. 441 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: But the thing about it is this, and I'm being honest, 442 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: is that the last scenario that we went to me 443 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: and gym was school. And I take responsibility for it, 444 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: but I was that serious. There was a time where 445 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: Jim had did a show at fifty and I think, 446 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 4: I think that right when I think the way fifty 447 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: answered the question got Jim mad. But I'm sitting there 448 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 4: saying to myself, I think and me on the time, 449 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 4: me and you on right now we can't talk about all. 450 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: We can't talk about what the way fifty innswer the 451 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 4: question it got Jim mad, and it riled him up, 452 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 4: and he went on tangent for four or five six months. 453 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: Still to this day, I guess he's still upset. But 454 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 4: I didn't mean militia out of it. I really want 455 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: to know how this nigga, How did you get niggas 456 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 4: to go fuck with you and me and you beefing 457 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: and me and Joell's and Jim not saying we was beefing, 458 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: but we wasn't on the same page. So it's a 459 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 4: real question for me. And you know, Jim got mad 460 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: about it and still upset to this day about it. 461 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: But I'm never gonna say never. But the end of 462 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: the day, if you got to think about it, it 463 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 4: disputes the arguments. The reunions is fifteen years old years 464 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: old and the run was seven years old. I don't 465 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: know if it could never go right. You know, he 466 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 4: got records thising me earlier this year. Whatever I do, 467 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 4: I don't really pay no more people send it to me. 468 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 4: But you got to think about it. He put a 469 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 4: friend a song called out Front of Me. He's in 470 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 4: like two thousand and eight, seventeen years of dish records 471 00:21:59,240 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 4: towards me. 472 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying. 473 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 3: It's the same way with Beans. Beans got dis records, 474 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: this and me and all that, and it's like, I 475 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: don't know where niggas coming from. But at the end 476 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: of the day, like when the lights cut off, the 477 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: music cut off, everything cut off, I can never. 478 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: Erase what was right exactly, you know what I mean. 479 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: But it's time for niggas to definitely embrace what is 480 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 3: exactly you know what I'm saying, And that's what I'll 481 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: be saying. The niggas like the best thing, the best thing, 482 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: And it's totally different scenarios. But you talked about it. 483 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 3: I didn't even see the interview. I've seen the clip. Yeah, 484 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: when they asked you if if niggas is ever gonna 485 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: speak again, and like the line with Dame, I feel like, yeah, 486 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: there's a line that was crossed. Like Beans, ain't go there. 487 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: I understand what you like, we get on the phone, 488 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick up the phone to night, like you 489 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But I feel like between them, 490 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 3: I don't even have to ax Jay. It ain't even 491 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: like Jay said it to me. It was like, Nah, 492 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: niggas is done. I ain't never, I just know knowing him. 493 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: But the reason I brought that out it is it 494 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: isn't even about because like Bigs my big bro to 495 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 4: shout out the bigs. 496 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out bigs. Definitely, yes, Oh yeah, that's my 497 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 3: big bro. So it's like it's like this for instance, right, 498 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: and that's what I'm saying. Right, I built a few 499 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: different entities that's doing well. 500 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: Right now. 501 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: Unless Jay feels like being nostalgic or whatever, you're not, 502 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: you're gonna see those hats that you wear. It ain't 503 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: We could go Rockefeller every five, six, seven, eight years. 504 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: But this is what we pumping right now exactly. So 505 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: it's never not a problem to feel nostalgic and reminisce. 506 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: But if you do too much of that reminiscent and 507 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: just base everything you doing on for what the past was, 508 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 4: you're just gonna sound like a nigga with a bunch 509 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 4: of stories and you old and biddle and so on 510 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: and so forth. For me, it's about still creating and 511 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: moving forward and making sure that when I do talk 512 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: about old shit, we're gonna talk about what's nail too. 513 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: It's right, because it's great to have memories and talk 514 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 4: about everything. But imagine if the nigga hole would just 515 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: be talking about Yo. 516 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: Remember. 517 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 4: Hey, you don't remember, Hey, y remember when we was 518 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 4: in two? Nah, we can talk about that, But this 519 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: is what I got going on today. I just sold 520 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: the company for forty eight, four hundred and eighty million. 521 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. That's what it's about. He's 522 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 4: not wearing Rockefeller I had so every day he's not. 523 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: You understand, He's moved on. And to me, that's what 524 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: it's really about. I love to reminisces and love to 525 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: have for it. But if that's all we talking about 526 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 4: and I can't do yeah, I can't do it. 527 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: No, I feel you. Bro. It's the same with the 528 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: Rockefeller shit. I'll be on that. They Yo, let's do 529 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: the Rockefeller shows, and it's like, bro, I can't do that. 530 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: No more Rockefeller right exactly. It's just like what we're 531 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: doing it right, even make no sense? 532 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: Right, and everybody not going and no respecting nobody out 533 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 4: there like that, Nobody gonna not go keep themselves in shape. 534 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 4: Everything like everybody, some niggas looking slopped and still got. 535 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm a train. 536 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get back type yeahs like uh yeah, 537 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: you know what I say, looking at niggas like damn 538 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: fan exactly. Now that's a fact, bro. So I wonder 539 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: we was talking off camera, but how you feel about music? 540 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: Would there ever be another camera project? 541 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: You know? It's crazy. 542 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 4: So I deal with different people on different things, and 543 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: they asked me for albums all the time. I just 544 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 4: think the landscape is different, the tensions. The tension span 545 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: is shorter album. Good album, come out, that should lasts 546 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 4: two three months, graving no weeks. I'm talking about when 547 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: we was coming out now yeah yeah, yeah, nineties, early 548 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 4: two thousand, great album, two three months. 549 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: You gotta run. 550 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: That's a great album. Today just what you said, two 551 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: weeks and that's a great that's a great that's a 552 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 3: great album. So mom, I gonna put my hallwork hallwork 553 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: in and get to weeks. I put out a single. 554 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: You put out single once every few months. Let it bubble. 555 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: See what happened? 556 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: Cool? 557 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 4: Like me, I was toaring off the same catalog from 558 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 4: twenty eleven to twenty nineteen til COVID. I was on 559 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: tour when COVID hit same catalog. So I'm sitting this 560 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: saying That's when I realized, like the music we made 561 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 4: was a great time. Because I'm still doing Ampu Theare 562 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 4: that's fifteen hundred and twenty five hundred shit for seven 563 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: eight years straight, same catalog. I threw new shit out 564 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: here and there, But it don't make sense now. If 565 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 4: I did a project, for instance, like I did Purple 566 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: Haze two, it's more of a mixing than the album. 567 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 4: But I toured it with my album my you know, 568 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 4: my catalog, and I sold out every venue. But the 569 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: dope thing about that is this. So I was seeing 570 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 4: people online talking abou Kim. I didn't get the new 571 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: mixtape yet, but I'm gonna cop it the night and 572 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: by the time I get to your show Friday, I'm 573 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 4: gonna every word. So now you don't gotta go to 574 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 4: Tower Records. You ain't gotta go to HMV. Nigga unloaded 575 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: the day before the show and they in tune. So 576 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: I think that part is dope. But for me, if 577 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 4: it ain't. When niggas touring and making money off merchant, 578 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 4: there's so many aspects to go into doing music. Just 579 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 4: to put a song out here and there, it's not 580 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: worth it for me. If I could put it in 581 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: a movie, a TV soundtrack, whatever, cool, but to do 582 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 4: an album, not just doing albums to put it out. 583 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 4: They're not gonna sell what they used to sell. And 584 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: I'm not touring and selling merch behind it. The money's 585 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: not worth it for me. 586 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: I feel you. I figured another way out to get 587 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: seventy two thousand dollars. You know what I'm saying, Jail, 588 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: I feel you on that one thing. 589 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: I feel you never got credit on Like a lot 590 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: of these new artists is into the merch, but you've 591 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: been into the merch since day one, Bro, And I 592 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: feel like we've been overlooked for that. Like I've been 593 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: sitting back and always trying to feel like, how the 594 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: fuck this nigga always got a hat, always got a jackets, 595 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: he's got the hoodies, like, but you've always been like 596 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: one of the niggas who started instill on the merch vibe. Man, 597 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: like you pioneered that shit for some of the East 598 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: Coast artists. For sure, I appreciate it. To be honest 599 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: with you, I ain't gonna lie like I pioneered it. 600 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: I see Wu Tang, you know what I'm saying. 601 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 4: I've seen Wu tank thing I've seen RockA well like 602 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 4: I may, whether me and you hung out or not. 603 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 4: I was I soaked in a lot from roc Rockefeller 604 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 4: and watching, you know, Jay and Dane get one hundred 605 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: and twenty million dollar check for RockA with watching Dame 606 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 4: by prokads. You know what I'm saying, Watching, I'm like, Yo, 607 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 4: hold on, niggascas nine digit checks off this. I didn't 608 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: even still didn't get there, but I was students other 609 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: than like right now, Wu Tang you know, shou out 610 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 4: the power too from Wu Tang. 611 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: Them Nigga's still grabbing eight diggits a year off the march. 612 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Woo shirts is all over 613 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: the world exactly, so what I and then you think 614 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: about it when you young, when you were younger and 615 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: wanted to be rapper, I remember going to Canal Street 616 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: and getting the chain that Eric in Parish had with 617 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: for EPMD or I want the fishermen hat like them 618 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: niggas had, or I want to dress like yo the 619 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: Niggah Grand Pooba got in a nice polo like I 620 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: want to dress like rappers. So when it was my turn, 621 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta make niggas want to dress like 622 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: me or be like me because you can have the best. 623 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: That's one thing that a lot of people don't realize. 624 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: You could be the best lyricists in the world. But 625 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: do a nigga want to be like you? That is, 626 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 3: do a nigga want to be like you? You know 627 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 628 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 4: So people don't understand those dynamics, like you don't have 629 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: to be the best rapper. But some niggas got swagged, like, 630 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: for instance, I give you a great example and there 631 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: is no dispect what I would say before. You know, 632 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: niggas be like, you're being disrespectful to me. And I'm 633 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: not saying he can't rap. I'm just saying out the 634 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: group Griselda right to me, the best lyricists in Gazelder 635 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 4: is whether you like Benny or or Conway and and 636 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 4: west Side is dope too, but I think those two 637 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: are better lyricists. But you want to be like west Side. 638 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: West Side he got the sneakst he's in Paris, he 639 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 4: got the New Louis, he got the You know what 640 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm not saying he can't rap. I'm saying 641 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: he's a great rap. I'm just saying, if you in 642 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 4: that group and you're picking the best lyricists, you're picking 643 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 4: the best lyricists. 644 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: If you picking who you want to be, like, if 645 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: you're a young nigga coming up, this is the nigga 646 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: I want to be like. 647 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: And that's what. 648 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: If you could capture both, you won. Now that's a fact. 649 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: Earth got the recipees. Earth got it. He said that 650 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: to me back in the days. Man like Yo, if 651 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: you're not somebody people emulating don't want to be, then 652 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: you're not doing the right thing that matters. That's a fact, yo. 653 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: So what's next for my g cam Man? What's on 654 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: the horizon? 655 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: Bro ship? 656 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I mean, I got a lot 657 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 4: of shit. See a lot of things is like this bleak. 658 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 4: It's like a lot of people don't see the shit 659 00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: that don't work. 660 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: That's right. Everything everything I do don't work. They think 661 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: everything that's the ship. They think. You don't think we 662 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: try aunt ship. 663 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: Hunted joints and you do throw a hundred different things 664 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: at the wall to stick. 665 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: That's right, Like my nigga, it's everything don't work. So 666 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: I can see and tell you what I'm about to 667 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: try to do. I can see him be like, Yo, 668 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 4: you know I want to I want to open up 669 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: a dance studio for dances, and you know what I'm exaduating. 670 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: But I'm sitting there. 671 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: Everything we got the we got the clubs. 672 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 4: Man. 673 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: We want to fuck around because we're about to open 674 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: up these strip clubs in West Palm, Miami. We just 675 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: opened up one up one out here. So if you 676 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: want to suck around, thing that makes sense investment wise. 677 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: I got some money. 678 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: I got the money man. 679 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 4: The one thing that's definite that's coming up and probably 680 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: hopefully this air by time. But October ninth, I got 681 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 4: a comedy show at the Beacon Theater. D Ray Davis, 682 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: Corey Holcom, Tony rock On, Jay Farrell shout to Ray Ray, 683 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 4: Will Will Mills shout the Outback Presents for putting it 684 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 4: together with you. But yeah, I'm doing a comedy show, 685 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: my first comedy show, called the Killer Comedy Show October 686 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 4: knife at the Beacon Theater. So hopefully we'll see how 687 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 4: that goes and if we do that right, we already 688 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 4: laid out a tour for that if it goes right. 689 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: So that's the next mention I'm trying. That's dope, man, 690 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: that's dope. 691 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: Man, like to see this ship man comedy shows, talk shows, 692 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: you into everything. 693 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 4: You got a book coming out too, Yeah, that's with that. 694 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: Yeah another, but it's a book called it isn't named Jed. 695 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: I just picked the right on the picture. But I'll 696 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 4: come back on the show again when it's south. That 697 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: probably ain't like April May or some shit like Now. 698 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 4: The book gonna be serious. 699 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: They've been asking me to write a book forever, but 700 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: I keep telling them Jay's still active. Yeah, yeah, gotta 701 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: go away, yeah far away. Yes, he's gonna snipe me. 702 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: If I put on What's Crazy? You know what's crazy? 703 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 4: It's like and I know it's two different age guys, 704 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: my man sugar digger, And I'm not comparing myself to 705 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 4: jay Z neither. When I when I just be like, 706 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: he's like thirty five, thirty six. So when I be 707 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: home chilling like yo, it's always nah, it ain't over 708 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 4: a nigga, now, don't. I don't start trying to get 709 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 4: old on nigga. Were going out tonight gets nigga. So 710 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: I understand where you're coming from, but I ain't gonna 711 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 4: hold you. It was a good it was a great 712 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 4: offer like I'm the bread. 713 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Nah, I hope that they ain't. 714 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: He ain't, man, Bro, I've been trying to get He 715 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: ain't gonna do no book even let me do the 716 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: movie kidding me. 717 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 4: The thing about the nigga Jay, my opinion is he's 718 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 4: been so great at being not not just a word 719 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 4: relevant scene, but mysterious. You know what I'm saying. He 720 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 4: don't gotta come talk about you figure it out. You 721 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 4: want to talk shit, all right, whatever, I don't care, 722 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: Go look at the next announcement that I make. So 723 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: it's always a mystique and a mysteriousness behind him. But today, 724 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 4: like you don't see him no tack. He ain't never, 725 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 4: he ain't outspoken like that. Like that's another thing, Like 726 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna front him. Nigga, fuck with you. You 727 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: be on the ass like I just seen you add little. 728 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: I'm this nigga making the honey rap songs about You're 729 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: like damn yo, bro, like I swear the guy. I 730 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 4: don't be wanting no problems yo with nobody. But what 731 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: I will say is just leave me alone. 732 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, just leave me your word. 733 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 3: The Homie made a bunch of rap songs nigga sent 734 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: it to me. I'm like, oh man, I've seen that. 735 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was fun for me. You know what 736 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying that because he still was doing songs and 737 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: shout out. I don't got no problem with that, nigga, 738 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: like we straight too. But the thing about it is 739 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 4: like I made a mistake. So basically I was talking 740 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 4: about the beatless Black actors how it was fucked up 741 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 4: for them, and I called him Omar Good and Junior 742 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: and his brothers, his brother's cub and the nigga went on. 743 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 4: I apologized on my show, and that's how bad it was. 744 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, my bad, I'm sorry. I didn't 745 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 4: mean to do it. Did another song. I went under 746 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 4: his comments. I said, bro, I don't want no smoke. 747 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 4: Did another song. 748 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I'm trying to be some different bro. 749 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: The rap shit is crazy, man, and niggas is niggas 750 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: gotta start like I feel like we at the age now. 751 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: We was talking off camera where that rap facade that 752 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: that that shit gotta come. 753 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: It gotta come on, bro. 754 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 4: Bro, when niggas be like, when niggas be talking tough 755 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 4: and screaming all that, it's two things I'd be like 756 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 4: you pump faking, and then if you're not pump faking, 757 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 4: I feel sorry for yo. 758 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: That's a fact. Forty or you let it go, Yo, 759 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: let it go, let it go. That's just I know. 760 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: Niggas can't be mad. You'd be like b less be 761 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: list actors, be less rappers. 762 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: Bro. I've seen the list where they had the fifty 763 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 3: worst rappers and I was on it. I was dying, 764 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: like damn, niggas true me, they put me on the list, 765 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: like damn. But then I just dropped the project, right, 766 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 3: and they dropped the new Whack fifty lists, so and. 767 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: That ain't on it. So did I get myself off 768 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: the list? 769 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: Right? 770 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 4: Exactly? But see that's the thing about it too, it Blizz, 771 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 4: is that it's more like bro. It's like, for instance, right, 772 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: you gotta realize to a lot of people, a lot 773 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 4: of people, they grew up with you, us whoever, nas Jay, whoever. 774 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 4: So when you start doing shit that they grew up to, 775 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 4: they get mad. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, 776 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: nine nigga, like you as my hero nigga, you know 777 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like even like the Homeboy, the Omar 778 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 4: Gun shit I seen niggas in my comments tomorrow. No, Kim, 779 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: you gotta go back to them. I'm fifteen fifty two 780 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 4: year old men from Michigan. Nigga fucked that book and 781 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 4: nigga shit getting that booth. 782 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yo, can't be serious. Yeah, but this 783 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 3: this shit niggas want because this is what they grew 784 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: up knowing you for. You not allowed to do, open 785 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: a restaurant. You're not allowed to go to West Palmer 786 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 3: and get the club, You're not allowed to run duce. 787 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: I know MeV bleak from being a rapper, and I 788 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 3: don't want them doing nothing else in my life but rapping, 789 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 3: that's all. And niggas don't want They definitely try to 790 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: put you in the box, and it's on us definitely 791 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: to grow outside that box. That's what made me like 792 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 3: when the raps slowed down and it was like damn, 793 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: what's next? And I felt like, Damn, I gotta reinvent myself. 794 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: The raps ain't working, the shows ain't booking. I gotta 795 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 3: figure it out. So that's when I jumped on the 796 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 3: dud say and now like, niggas don't know bro that 797 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 3: reality pill. That's the really shit I think I ever 798 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: had to take in my life like my nigga because 799 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: remember you going in the back door getting booked at 800 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 3: these clubs, thirty forty grand to touch the stage. Now 801 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 3: I'm going through the front door with a bible, asks 802 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 3: you to buy something fright, look like a major major 803 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: like I fell down the ladder right and I had 804 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 3: to put the pride to the bottom. You can't get 805 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 3: it cracking, bro like, But a lot of niggas don't 806 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 3: know how to accept when it's over and it's something 807 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 3: you gotta pivot to something new. 808 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 4: Bro, you couldn't have said that better. It's man niggas. 809 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 4: This man niggas that don't know it's so. 810 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 3: Yo. 811 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: It's not the worst. 812 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 4: That's the worst. Niggas don't know it's over. I'll be 813 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 4: seeing niggas day. I used to funk with, you know, 814 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna say fuck with people. I used to 815 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 4: do business as far as music concerned. They be a 816 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 4: little freestyle. Talking about niggas was hard. Now he's sitting 817 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 4: here podcasting and I'm sitting there like, I don't get 818 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 4: it easier to I could go right now and do 819 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 4: three four festivals. 820 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: Grab the break. 821 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 3: Why would I get on the plane, fly around, be 822 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 3: bothered with nigga and I could get yeah, risk your 823 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 3: life and be soned somewhere different. 824 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. 825 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 4: I've seen it today, So I guess when I asked 826 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 4: you when you was on my show, I guess he's 827 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 4: just seen it today. 828 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: Choking no joke. Oh yeah, yeah, I did see something 829 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: from choking. 830 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: I swear to god, i've seen it today. And he 831 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 4: was like, carr My George find dah da da. I 832 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 4: thought you was a rapper. Now you podcasting what you're doing. 833 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, I seen him say welcome to 834 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: my world. Like me, Yeah, I see that, And I'm like, bro, 835 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: I just I'm not trying to be like nobody. I 836 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: ain't see that, Paul. 837 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 4: But I'm sitting there saying, Bro, if I go watch 838 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 4: sports and don't talk about it while, would they go 839 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 4: do that? 840 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: That's the same what I'm saying. And another thing too, 841 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: this platform. 842 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 3: You need personality to carry a show, bro, not anybody 843 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 3: get you sit there and talk and you want to 844 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 3: add them talk for fifty minutes. 845 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 4: It's like, Huh, I lost money on investments for people 846 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 4: that I thought could talk. 847 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: Uh, huh, And they can't. 848 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 4: Just because you've been around music, don't mean you could 849 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 4: talk about music. Just because you've been around sports, don't 850 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 4: mean you could talk about sports. Just because you've been 851 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 4: around something and you have knowledge in that area, Coming 852 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 4: on this microphone in front of that camera and making 853 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 4: this sound good, that's a that's a totally different thing. 854 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: Fact, you know. 855 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: And like a lot of people think it's easy, it's 856 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 3: not easy being able to carry a show and keep 857 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 3: people entertained. 858 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you know, stay on, stay. 859 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 3: On, courts man, because a lot of people I'm watching 860 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 3: this spit in this space, not shipping on a choke, 861 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 3: no joke or any other journalist. Get your money how 862 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 3: you gotta get it. But a lot of niggas choose 863 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 3: to dig the dirt right to live off that. And 864 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 3: it's like, right, it's more to us than just the bullshit. 865 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and the thing about it that and you're right, 866 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 4: And I'm not just a true neither, but you're right. 867 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 4: Niggas need that and and and I'm not talking about 868 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 4: nobody when I say this, I'm just being clear. I 869 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 4: didn't understand how it worked at first, and then when 870 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 4: I figured it out, I'm like, no, wonder this niggas 871 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 4: sitting in his kitchen every week talking about it, nigga 872 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 4: because YouTube is sending this nigga checked, Oh this how 873 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 4: this shit work. And I'm not saying I will ever 874 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 4: do that. I'm not, but I just didn't understand why 875 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 4: niggas was in their basement talking about niggas. Then I 876 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 4: figured it after my sports I said, oh, this is 877 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 4: why these niggas is in a in a in a 878 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 4: white wall background. 879 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: You can't see where they at. 880 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 4: Pictures exactly exactly there you go a hundred percent finding 881 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 4: the reason to beef with somebody. 882 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 3: That's why when when nor He was telling me to 883 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: do this show, I was like yo, and no, like 884 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to bring up no bullshit. I don't 885 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 3: want to do nothing. I don't want to be up 886 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: here talking about this to go viral, Like we all 887 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 3: real niggas, our story and who we are gonna go 888 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: viral just off the moves we make. And I want 889 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: to teach the niggas coming up, the young niggas that 890 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 3: after rap is still life. Absolutely you know what I'm saying. 891 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 3: Niggas think that you gotta rap forever, and it's like nah, dog, 892 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 3: I rap when I want to, cause it's. 893 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 4: Fun, right, absolutely, Like, look, let's think about this, and 894 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 4: I know we I keep using them, whether it's Nas 895 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 4: or jay Z. Jay Z's business and uh, when I 896 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 4: say business, his announcements. Brother, he's selling this or selling 897 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 4: that and making this and making that. You're not harassing 898 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 4: him to do an album. No, same thing with Nas. 899 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 4: Nas is just a little more quiet than jay Z 900 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 4: about his business. You gotta google and be scrolling like, 901 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 4: what the fuck you mean named? Nas made forty million 902 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 4: off the ring? You mean he caught a one hundred 903 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 4: and twenty million dollar bag off the farmer sutical company. 904 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 905 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 4: Just this is Nas tattoo shopping. You get what I'm saying. 906 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 4: Those are the moves that really matter. And until people 907 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 4: understand that, they're gonna think that this podcast whatever, because 908 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 4: they're not gonna be compared to because you gotta think 909 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 4: about these It's two time greats. People have arguments who 910 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 4: you like better than these two? But the business acremen 911 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 4: to where they both going right anxacty. 912 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 3: But speaking about that j album, so you know I 913 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 3: drink champs, I said, Yo, Jay dropping the album that 914 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 3: nigga called me and you bleak in the last record 915 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 3: you heard of mind at the album dropping, I said, Nigga, we. 916 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: Chill, let's just call it with you. Nigga was like, yeah, man, 917 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: he was on the phone trying to see if Guru 918 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: was leaking some ship to me. 919 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, I can't. I can't tell them a 920 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 3: dog goo right exactly. 921 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: But see that's and I know y'all have a different die. Man. 922 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 4: That's just another thing speaking to the level of business. 923 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 4: It was a time I don't I don't know if 924 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 4: four four four whatever album it was, and I know 925 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 4: one like one's a shout to one. One is just 926 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 4: another nigga that he'd been up since I was four 927 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 4: five years old, You know what I'm saying. So when 928 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 4: when you think about these these are two very smart businessmen. 929 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 4: So I don't, like, I'm not sure if it's four 930 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 4: for four what album it was, but the album was 931 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 4: platinum for it came out because it was in a. 932 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: Phone Yeah oh yeah, yeah, no, that was Blueprint three. 933 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 934 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: Whatever, these niggas got this ship. You forget it like that. 935 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 1: It makes you be like, yo, what am I doing 936 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: this for? You get what I'm saying? 937 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 4: If I'm not, If I've been doing music this long 938 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 4: and I ain't busting these type of moves, I need 939 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 4: to figure out something else to get around that. Even 940 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 4: if I'm not close, the reption I'm doing is not 941 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 4: comparing to buying getting teaming up with a phone company. 942 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 3: In selling a million unity you shouldn't even drop is insane, Right, Yeah? 943 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 3: That was. 944 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: That's when I'm like, I'll get. 945 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 4: To a single, Assaul, when I get to that ship, 946 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 4: because if that made the moves, that made the move. 947 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: No, I give you that for sure. 948 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 4: Man. 949 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: What's your relationship with Santana Jewels? 950 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 4: I just spoke to him a while, but you know 951 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 4: it's crazy Joel's I'll say three months ago He's We 952 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 4: spoke for a minute on text and he wanted me 953 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 4: to do a record for him. You know what I'm saying, 954 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 4: You want me to do it. He sent me the 955 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 4: record and you know it was good. I'm not saying 956 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 4: it wasn't good, but I'm like, we haven't done music 957 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 4: for so long. It gotta be a moment, you know 958 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And that record he sent wasn't a moment, 959 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, I'm not 960 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 4: really in the music space. If I do some shit, 961 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 4: I do some shit. But if me and you gonna 962 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 4: do a record, it got to be a real moment. 963 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 4: We haven't done nothing in a while. Like for us, 964 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 4: I give you a great example right this word to 965 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 4: everything I love. I ain't gonna name the companies or 966 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 4: whatever it's. You know, billion dollar companies. Call me, Yo, 967 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 4: we want to do this for Cam and with Cam, 968 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 4: call Mason. See if we want to do this, y'all. 969 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 4: Niggas do a freestyle, will give you X amount of 970 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 4: dollars yo. Or if you shoot a video for O company, 971 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 4: give you X amount of dollars. Or Yo, if you 972 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 4: pop up right now to so and so festival, we 973 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 4: got half a million dollars for you. So I'm like, 974 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: you know me, I ain't gonna hold you when we's 975 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 4: doing this deal that we up for this what it is. See, 976 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 4: that's why I can't argue with me. So I'm gonna 977 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 4: be totally all. I can't argue with the nigga. You 978 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 4: gotta realize he's a he coming from bad boys, so 979 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 4: he like I'm watching everybody else, I don't trust nobody. 980 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 4: I think we've been doing this show. September makes two years. 981 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 4: I think he just started trusting me and may yo. 982 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: I could get I'm ready. That's my brother everything, that's 983 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: my brother. 984 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 4: So like when we're doing this deal, niggas is saying me, 985 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 4: I'm talking shout to rich climb in order niggas to 986 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 4: help you get rich. 987 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: We climbing. I'm talking to Gilbert of readers. So the 988 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: deal is like. 989 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 4: Three million, four million. They's like, Kim, that's that's a 990 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 4: lot for the space right there for you da da dadah. 991 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 4: So I'm like maces and four I talk to everybody like, nah, 992 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 4: can we not doing that? I'm not signing for four million. 993 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, maceon this is like we have experience in this. 994 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: Damn. I can't do nothing. That's eight eight digits. I 995 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: just can't do it. 996 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 4: And I'm like, so now this should get up to 997 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 4: six million, seven million, eight million, I said, Mace, just 998 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 4: as I heard of like Off the Rip, off the rip. 999 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: If you want to get it cam, if you want 1000 00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: to give up, uh, you take three million and I 1001 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: take six That's fine with me, but it has to 1002 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 1: be there. So then the ship get eight nine million, 1003 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: you get the ten million, say your nigga eight. I 1004 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: didn't say they're low eight. They just Cam, Yo, shit shit, 1005 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 1: just work it out, promise on everything. I love. Just 1006 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: just like this, just like that. He's like, so it 1007 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: went up, It went up again. I said not. I say, look, 1008 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this right now. 1009 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 4: If this don't go through for this amount x amoundred dollars, 1010 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 4: you owe me eight million dollars. Ye, word out, Okay, right, 1011 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 4: gonna wait. And we waited about another two months and 1012 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 4: he got the number that he wanted. 1013 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: So Nail. Everything else is now Cam, you're selling us 1014 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: out again, Yo, I love Yo know. 1015 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 3: Biggs is like that. Biggs is the same way. What 1016 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 3: we ain't getting what we asking for, we ain't doing 1017 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 3: it right. So now it's different shit to where he's like, 1018 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 3: I said, Mace, they got two hundred and fifty thousands, 1019 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,760 Speaker 3: and on a situation like that, Cam is four hundred 1020 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 3: for us. At a moment, we're doing sports together, but 1021 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 3: we haven't had a musical moment. 1022 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 1: Would I take that? Why would you take it? You 1023 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: got it? I said, Mace. Bro we getting older. I 1024 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: just I said, we haven't done a song in thirty years. 1025 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 3: It's a moment, right, we need the money for the moment. 1026 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 3: It has to be a cam in Mace moment, so 1027 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 3: I can't argue with them. So back to the Jewel 1028 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 3: situation when he sent me the record. I'm not putting 1029 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 3: it on the same level as Mace, but it gotta 1030 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 3: be a moment, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I 1031 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 3: functionate with Santana Jewel, I mean Cam, I mean fucking 1032 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 3: Juels and Gym out there doing it. Got the bud moving, 1033 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 3: the music movingly. I just would love to see the 1034 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 3: dip set together. Like I don't like to see the 1035 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 3: bullshit back and forth on line. I'm not and that's 1036 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 3: why I respect that you don't go back and forth 1037 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 3: when with ship like that, because that's how I am. 1038 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 3: I'm watching say it's like you, fam, I can't say 1039 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 3: nothing because then it's just gonna be your turn, my turn. 1040 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,760 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, Bro. Not to cut you off, Blizz, 1041 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 4: but it's like this, we just talked about it. You 1042 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 4: be playing with me online. I'm gonna play at you online. 1043 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,439 Speaker 4: They say something about me, I ignore it because I don't. 1044 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to do that with them, Nigga. I 1045 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 4: love you get Yeah, Like Bro, and mia. Unspoke after that. 1046 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 4: But the thing about it, what happened when Un was 1047 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 4: was that he did an interview on Flag and he 1048 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 4: said some ship Dame and Jay and Caim like Steve Stout, 1049 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 4: they want me out the industry. And I'm like, yo, bro, 1050 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 4: where this came from. I'm like, you gave me a chance, 1051 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 4: Biggie took me to you. 1052 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: I have no problem with you. So I called a 1053 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: mutual friend. Shout to Jacob York. You know what I'm saying. 1054 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: And he told he told yoll, tell Cam, I'm just 1055 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: trying to move to algorithm. 1056 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 3: Yo yo yo. 1057 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 4: I was just like yo, not he wanted to move 1058 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 4: everything I love. He said, tell Cam, I'm just trying 1059 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 4: to move algorithm. So we spoke after that. I ain't 1060 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,439 Speaker 4: no problem. And I'm like, I, Dick, ain't no problem. 1061 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 4: We spoke, I see nothing. I went to Jacob house, this, 1062 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 4: that and the third. And I'm not putting nigg in 1063 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 4: the business out there, but Nigga last for the last year. 1064 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm saying, ain't go four thousand, twenty five hundred this 1065 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 4: that whether he needed or not, we won't get there. 1066 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: I was doing that. That's right. 1067 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So then the other day, yo, 1068 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 4: cause niggas only see the clips I put up. They 1069 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 4: don't see the whole shit. I don't know if you've 1070 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 4: seen the interview. 1071 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: I just see the clips. 1072 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 4: So listen, I ain't gonna say who sent it to me. 1073 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 4: I'll tell you off the camera. So the nigga not 1074 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 4: gassed me, but he sent me the clip. He said, 1075 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 4: go to the five minute mark. 1076 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:16,399 Speaker 1: Camp. So they asked the nigga. They say, yo, did 1077 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: jay Z stab you? 1078 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 3: This? That and the third? 1079 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 4: So he's like, and why did he stab you? I 1080 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 4: definitely didn't see this part. Yeah, So he says, uh, 1081 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 4: Jay didn't stab me. You know somebody that entorized. We 1082 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 4: won't get into. But they're like why, and it's like 1083 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 4: it could have been a bunch of reasons why it 1084 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 4: was a bunch of reasons. Why Who knows? He said, 1085 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 4: So now pause that what I just told you this. 1086 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 4: When I'm signing to UN, were in the studio had 1087 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 4: a song called fuck You. We're rehearsing that song for 1088 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 4: a show. It's me, he said, Mace, but I know 1089 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 4: he meant Jim. Mace wasn't there with Jim and all 1090 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 4: un niggas from Brooklyn, the staff, the you know, everybody 1091 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 4: in there. So we rehearsing. Dain't come in at this time. 1092 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 4: While we were rehearsing, and the song fuck you, and 1093 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 4: we kind of like fuck you, fuck you you kind 1094 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 4: of like pointing the dame. And to this day, I 1095 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 4: don't know why, you know what I'm saying, but you know, 1096 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 4: dang crazy dame dolo. They ain't walk in the middle 1097 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 4: the whole ship like, yo, fuck y'all niggas too talking 1098 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 4: about you. So he's like the song went off, so 1099 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 4: he like, yo, Kim, let me talk to y'all. So 1100 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 4: he's bringing out side. He said, you don't do that 1101 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 4: no more. He said, you've got these Brooklyn niggas thinking 1102 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 4: that we ain't united Harlem niggas. 1103 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: What the fuck is that about? 1104 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't even know what it was about. 1105 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 4: The song was on niggas, I said, y'all he made 1106 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 4: me feel like shit. I felt like shit, you know 1107 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I was like, my bad bro cool 1108 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 4: boom Back to un Un tells this story on the 1109 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 4: all the dialogue shit the other day. Well, well, Kim 1110 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 4: and Jim and them niggas Macy says walked in and 1111 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 4: started screaming fuck you with dame when he walks in, 1112 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 4: and then three four days later, I'm stabbed. 1113 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know ship bro. 1114 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 3: Saying everything, I love my nigga and I'm like so 1115 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 3: he like dang put the hit out, basically called his artist. 1116 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: Yo fair man. I didn't even put that clip up 1117 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: something bro? What yo Bro? What amplicated me? 1118 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 3: And day? 1119 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: And why niggas know exactly why that ship went that? Yeah? Yeah, 1120 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:44,359 Speaker 1: So I'm just believe he said it was because y'all 1121 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: was saying. He said, those could have been one of 1122 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: the many reasons, but that's what he said. That's crazy. 1123 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: I gotta watch that. I'm gonna send it to you 1124 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: like nig said to me and go straight to the 1125 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: five minute mark. 1126 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 3: That's a fact, my ge. Well, I ain't gonna hold 1127 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 3: you my Niggtrother Yeah, man, night and anything else you 1128 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 3: got going on, man, I would love to be a 1129 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 3: part of it, Tomorre my brother. We got a lot 1130 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 3: of ship plan man, I would love to have a 1131 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 3: fuck with you. Come on, we missed a lot of 1132 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 3: money before we are gonna miss it now. Let's feel me. 1133 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna end up in the walker Rich Yeah, I 1134 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 3: appreciate it. Broke my brother on the love you know 1135 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 3: what it is. This is brought to you by du 1136 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 3: Say Conyak, the smoothest koonyak in the world. Whatever you celebrate, 1137 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 3: make sure you toast with ducet we Outside Yeah, Rock 1138 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 3: Solid Boom. 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