Speaker 1: You needn't help dunk in that basketball on that hoop?
Speaker 1: Did behind you? Do you have that set up for
Speaker 1: your for your kids, dude, just to fucking go full
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards on them. I bring it out every once
Speaker 1: in a while. Yeah. Then when there's yeah, when they're sleeping,
Speaker 1: I put at the top of their bed and wake
Speaker 1: them up with a fucking poster. Damn, bro, they're not
Speaker 1: going This would be a closed casket. What I like, just.
Speaker 2: Waking up fan you got going on? That's the fan,
Speaker 2: the type of fan that your your kids should be
Speaker 2: able to convince themselves can propel them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, put.
Speaker 3: Them on a skateboard, put that behind them.
Speaker 1: But first put a series of thin objects in to
Speaker 1: see just how powerful the fan blade is. As any
Speaker 1: true fan, explore.
Speaker 3: An umbrella next to it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would just throw toothpicks. I remember my
Speaker 1: grandma would have him at her house. I would just
Speaker 1: throw them into to watch him get fucking whipped out
Speaker 1: like a crazy speed. Oh my god. Yeah, well, you're like,
Speaker 1: you're learning cause and effect at a young age.
Speaker 3: This is what we had instead of smartphones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, throwing toothpicks in a big ass blade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically any cell phone game works like a fruit ninja.
Speaker 1: Did you ever do the thing to see how much
Speaker 1: you can handle, like put your fingers in to see
Speaker 1: if you can stop the fan blade?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I've stopped. I've stopped fans with my tongue.
Speaker 1: I've stopped them all here, yeah for real?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, and I rocked them all, baby, to
Speaker 3: send you a million open face fans, and I've rocked
Speaker 3: them all. Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three fifty,
Speaker 3: episode two of Daily I Guys See production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 3: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 3: into America's shared consciousness. And it is Tuesday, August sixth,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, man, National Night Out Day? Why is there
Speaker 1: hop in the image for this? Actually no, I take
Speaker 1: that back.
Speaker 3: Night Out Day is like they go full staff on
Speaker 3: like DUI traps, like it promotes police community. Oh boy, yeah,
Speaker 3: compaganda day, Little night out you deserve it.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know, hey, you know who else can pop
Speaker 1: and lock officer fucking rivers over here? Why don't you
Speaker 1: show them a little locking?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah? There he goes Egyptian lover doing the most old schoolshid.
Speaker 1: It's also National Fresh Breath Day, National root Beer Float Day,
Speaker 1: National Wiggle your Toesday.
Speaker 2: Wiggle them, okay, wiggle Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm at the point where my wife is officially like,
Speaker 3: you need a pedicure like food.
Speaker 1: We're not.
Speaker 3: We need to take these out of your hands.
Speaker 1: Wait, what is happening? What is going dry?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: I mean my feed? I'm not. I'm acting like I
Speaker 1: have like fucking award winning feet. I don't. I have
Speaker 1: feet that have I think asbestos on the bottom. Because
Speaker 1: I'm walking out here.
Speaker 2: Something for the This is for the people to decide.
Speaker 2: You got to show got to show feet. Yeah, see
Speaker 2: what happens.
Speaker 1: It's it's beyond that, Andrew. I can't. I mustn't put
Speaker 1: many us. I mustn't. Definitely, I don't know.
Speaker 3: This is this is me trying to create some demand.
Speaker 1: I mustn't. I simply mustn't. Oh me, Oh you caught
Speaker 1: me as I was darning my stockings in the night,
Speaker 1: and I guess my feet were uncovered. Yeah, wait are they?
Speaker 1: It's just got like you got them dry pads and
Speaker 1: ship like. I like you put the lighter underneath. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put the lighter underneath. I feel that ship as a kid,
Speaker 1: just to like kind of prove to myself. I was like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: this ship is thick. I can like five seconds create a.
Speaker 3: Nice little okay without anybody noticed feeling youmi, Yeah, get.
Speaker 1: The microplane out any.
Speaker 3: Because I get the microplane out because that's when I
Speaker 3: brainstorm in my foot cell storm. Anyways, my name is
Speaker 3: Jack O'Brien aka Robert. Brought a dead bear cub. He
Speaker 3: bought it for a dime. His sister had another one.
Speaker 3: She paid it for a bike. He put the bike
Speaker 3: with the dead bear cub. He put in New York City.
Speaker 3: Put the bike with the dead bear cub. He put
Speaker 3: in Central Park. He put the bike with the dead
Speaker 3: bear cub. He put in New York City. Put the
Speaker 3: bike with the dead bear cub. He called New Yorker
Speaker 3: said write it up, and said New Yorker, that is it.
Speaker 3: That is courtesy a Lacaroni on the discord. Great great job, Locarni,
Speaker 3: What a time, A great job. Robert Kennett, Robert Afghnnedy Junior,
Speaker 3: What a time to be alive you guys, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: It gets worse. I love it. It's probably going to
Speaker 1: be a bad story. About me, and then the New
Speaker 1: York or post the photo of him with the dead
Speaker 1: bear cub, and.
Speaker 3: You're like, these haters, it's probably gonna be a bad story.
Speaker 1: You're holding a dead animal pretending like that's clearly been
Speaker 1: like it's bleeding from its injuries, and you're like, it's
Speaker 1: biting me. No, all right, let's let's go to Lugers.
Speaker 2: Huh, gotta go to Keynes by the way, when you're
Speaker 2: up in Central Park?
Speaker 3: Does this say at least the last time he was like,
Speaker 3: last time there was a horrible picture of him with
Speaker 3: a dead animal, he was pretending to eat a dog. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this time he had the bear pretending to eat him,
Speaker 3: which would be an improvement if his alibi was not.
Speaker 3: I was gonna cut it up for meat and eat
Speaker 3: it bear fur so that I could have like baby
Speaker 3: bear meat and fur.
Speaker 1: Like No, one's really really kind of sussing that part out,
Speaker 1: or it's like, hold on, so you just want to
Speaker 1: eat dead bear cub meat? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is this gonna be a big enough story though, Like
Speaker 3: we don't even have to explain what the fuck we're
Speaker 3: talking about, or do we need to tell people? I
Speaker 3: don't know, I mean, listen, We talked about it on
Speaker 3: Monday's episode.
Speaker 1: You can listen to it there. Look RFK threw away
Speaker 1: a dead bear cub in Central Park, dead.
Speaker 3: Bear cub in his car first of all, threw it
Speaker 3: away in Central Park. Big mystery for a decade how
Speaker 3: bear get into Central Park? And he was like, out
Speaker 3: of nowhere? Okay, it was me.
Speaker 1: Ten years later, all right, my niece wrote that piece. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a weird incidence. Huh. Okay, well I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything besides the headline is he's he
Speaker 2: was going to get caught, is why he came up
Speaker 2: with or it was the New.
Speaker 3: Yorker was about to report on it, and he was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's probably gonna probably gonna slander me,
Speaker 3: you know, meant.
Speaker 2: Feel like he he is kind of like in that
Speaker 2: like Internet scammer territory where like like like the shit
Speaker 2: with like intentional or who cares typo's which filters out
Speaker 2: anyone remotely skeptical, So like anyone who's still on the
Speaker 2: RFK junior hook is I mean those hooks are in
Speaker 2: your brain.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, almost.
Speaker 3: Like the tentacles of a worm, like like this is
Speaker 3: just like yeah, he got whatever.
Speaker 1: Like four percent of the population believes him, like really
Speaker 1: believes in him. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a potent group
Speaker 1: though that are behind him. Yeah, Like they're like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I don't care about the bear stuff or the dog
Speaker 1: stuff or the everything stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, let's hear him Outston, what a cool guy.
Speaker 3: He acknowledges the climate change is real. Let's hear him
Speaker 3: out on everything else having to do with science, no
Speaker 3: matter what he says. All right, I am thrilled to
Speaker 3: be joined as always by my co host mister Miles
Speaker 3: grad Ak.
Speaker 1: Heyvance, you don't have to fit in that glove time.
Speaker 1: Those days are over. You don't have to about it
Speaker 1: to the right. Hey, verts, you don't have to fuck
Speaker 1: that couch tonight, struck. The same for money. You don't
Speaker 1: care if it's swaying or corder roy hey vants. Okay,
Speaker 1: shout out to Steaming Chuck on the discord for that
Speaker 1: one of my favorite karaoke jams.
Speaker 3: So thank you for I was gonna say, shout out
Speaker 3: to Steaming Chuck and shout out to uh Miles Gray. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the vocal performance of of a lifetime.
Speaker 1: Those beautiful The second verse two would have you can
Speaker 1: hear him singing to a couch and he's like, I
Speaker 1: love you since hog. Yeah, I wouldn't talk down to
Speaker 1: ya because he's it's a sofa that he's you know, yeah, yeah, sofa.
Speaker 2: You're no to Web one point zero or did you
Speaker 2: guys already talk about this? Like remember like like like
Speaker 2: one of the earliest viral videos was those like fucking
Speaker 2: six dudes like humping that autumn in the couch.
Speaker 1: Yeah pretty ricky?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah is that not you know jd Vance's face
Speaker 2: like not just like that video if you want a
Speaker 2: quick viral video.
Speaker 1: I can't believe no one's put his face floating PG
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I'm just surprised that's a automan humpers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna hit them with like a seasoned desist
Speaker 1: like the way things are going, because he only knows
Speaker 1: how to make things worse for himself.
Speaker 3: Super producer Justin did bring it right. Yeah I knew it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I knew I could feel it in the ether. We
Speaker 3: got too much content to make without that having Come on, no,
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. I'm just cut his
Speaker 3: own good joke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, justin humility, like we said, this is
Speaker 1: the summer of humility. To see that humility.
Speaker 3: That's right, all right, Andrew, We're going to get to
Speaker 3: know you yet.
Speaker 1: I just I got to We're always talking to each
Speaker 1: other anyway, so it was like, yeah anyway, so oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, oh yeah, this guy. Anyways, we are thrilled
Speaker 3: in our third Yes, one of the very faces on
Speaker 3: Mount Zeitmore a hilarious and brilliant writer producer. You know
Speaker 3: him from the jos this racist podcast.
Speaker 1: It's Andrew t. M.
Speaker 2: I give it to you with much trivia, like hot
Speaker 2: take straight from iHeartMedia.
Speaker 1: That was ten seconds before we started recording. I was like,
Speaker 1: I think I could pull this one off. That was flawless.
Speaker 3: I could sense the COVID in your voice. The grave,
Speaker 3: the grave.
Speaker 2: Still y'all keep it, keep it safe, maskop COVID. This
Speaker 2: COVID is is as the realist. Yet I feel for
Speaker 2: me personally. Wow, did you go packed LOVID for COVID?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I probably should have. I I just was like, I'm fine, right, uh, probably.
Speaker 1: I don't know that version. No one in particular. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my dog mostly right, Hey man, who are you talking to? Huh?
Speaker 2: Mostly mostly my dog. I was telling these guys off. Mike,
Speaker 2: my last screen time check in clocked in it. Hey, Andrew,
Speaker 2: your screen time is a little bit up. You average
Speaker 2: sixteen point five hours a day last week.
Speaker 3: That's we're gonna need you to check into some sort
Speaker 3: of rehab.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two full union shifts of being on YouTube per day?
Speaker 1: Right, what does that do to your soul? Like, how
Speaker 1: do you feel?
Speaker 2: I feel? Well, we can talk about it because all
Speaker 2: of my over under rate.
Speaker 3: History and like so deep and obscure.
Speaker 2: I guess I will just say, broadly speaking, I'm an
Speaker 2: old man and I finally found like I finally think
Speaker 2: I get YouTube for me.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, the algorithm has finally been bent to or
Speaker 3: will I?
Speaker 1: Yes, sort of, I need to get forty hours of
Speaker 1: non stop watching. I think it might have an idea
Speaker 1: of what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what happened was I just like hated
Speaker 2: the idea of YouTube stuff, and so when I like,
Speaker 2: don't like engage with it, YouTube would just keep like
Speaker 2: suggesting to me, Okay, well, the average person who likes
Speaker 2: quote unquote YouTube likes this stuff, which is all like
Speaker 2: right wing garbage.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, I hate this, I hate this,
Speaker 1: I hate.
Speaker 2: This and then I finally watched enough of the Internet that, like,
Speaker 2: I found people who un ironically call themselves YouTubers and
Speaker 2: call the product that they make content and who I
Speaker 2: don't hate. Ok So I started watching some of those folks,
Speaker 2: and then it started suggesting me more of that, because
Speaker 2: I assume YouTube is internally incentivized.
Speaker 1: To who's a creator? We like to use the term
Speaker 1: creator exactly. Yeah, yeah, he's a creator. Who like who
Speaker 1: Who's Who's Who's one of the creators that cut your eye?
Speaker 1: That's gonna come up?
Speaker 2: And now I think the first one, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: what's his name is? This is a very very famous person.
Speaker 2: It's just new to me. But this guy, Jarvis Johnson, Okay,
Speaker 2: who it's close enough to the circles of like people
Speaker 2: who have been on Daily's guys have been on his
Speaker 2: show before. But he is just a you know, fucking YouTuber,
Speaker 2: talks to the camera, hota knows everything about YouTube. But
Speaker 2: he's he's like mixed, and he is by virtue of
Speaker 2: not being white. I feel like has at least like
Speaker 2: takes that I can understand. And I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is like much better. This is what I assume
Speaker 2: people like who just watch like fucking mister Beast or
Speaker 2: whatever without thinking about it, like get out of it anyway.
Speaker 2: I was just I was like okay, and then once
Speaker 2: I start on that train, the algorithm was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he finally has engaged.
Speaker 1: With YouTube without it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I've just been hit with a like a you know,
Speaker 2: and it's good.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I figured out a piece of this like
Speaker 2: ecosystem that I can stand.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's how That's how sick I was. YouTube
Speaker 1: video That's how sick I was, and YouTube videos.
Speaker 3: I feel like the second so I went to his
Speaker 3: Twitter and he's got like some something going on with
Speaker 3: Cody co Like yeah, you know, and it's just immediately
Speaker 3: like there's a beef with somebody who I'm not familiar with.
Speaker 2: It is all internal, It is all part of this
Speaker 2: like ecosystem that I don't know. It is interesting because
Speaker 2: it's like I don't know any of the people he's
Speaker 2: talking about except for like the most famous breakthay to
Speaker 2: the household name ish people. Yeah, and I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: learn probably, but it is like I'm like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: guy at least has the right opinions on the basic
Speaker 2: social things.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay, I can engage with this person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not going to say turn into like yeah, some
Speaker 1: weird genocide apology or something. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: We were in Boston stand with some friends last week
Speaker 3: and their kids are like from say eight up through
Speaker 3: like eighth grade, and they their mom was like, they
Speaker 3: live in LA They've probably seen like some famous people,
Speaker 3: do you guys want to ask them? But we were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: we saw Tom Cruise and they were like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: that's so cool.
Speaker 1: Did you see mister Beast?
Speaker 3: And then like asked us if we'd see mister Beast
Speaker 3: like five more times after we'd said no, they're like,
Speaker 3: but what about mister Beat?
Speaker 1: Like an actual famous person?
Speaker 3: So you haven't you you haven't seen a famous interesting
Speaker 3: you see Elon Musk? All right, let's uh, we're gonna
Speaker 3: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 3: a couple of things that we're talking about in today's episode.
Speaker 3: Kamalin now leads Trump in the national polls. Trump continues
Speaker 3: to still he's finding his footing finding well, we'll see,
Speaker 3: And then the beepstakes is should be today and people
Speaker 3: probably know by the time you're listening to this who
Speaker 3: the heap is. But there's been a bit of a
Speaker 3: controversy around the leading candidate, Josh Shapiro, and the mainstream
Speaker 3: media always talks about it as like due to pressure
Speaker 3: from progressive wing of the Democratic Party, he's got some
Speaker 3: got some doubters, but they're they're very vague about why
Speaker 3: that is, where that pressure comes from in some cases.
Speaker 3: In some cases they're just like the left wing is
Speaker 3: bad and scary, and people will be scary. Anyways, we'll
Speaker 3: talk about that. We'll talk about the market correction that
Speaker 3: is happening around AI might be upon us. We've been
Speaker 3: talking about this for a while that a lot of
Speaker 3: the stock market is puffed up on like AI hype
Speaker 3: and what they think AI does doesn't seem to be
Speaker 3: in line with reality, and whether they're would be a
Speaker 3: market correction. The stock market is taking a ship, and
Speaker 3: at least one of the narratives that's being spun around
Speaker 3: that particular ship is that they have lost patience with AI.
Speaker 3: So where's my money, says the shareholders? Right, AI peor Hey,
Speaker 3: I I know it's like he's just having a tough one,
Speaker 3: but we've all been.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what that's like, Like we're talking
Speaker 1: about practice. That's what I say.
Speaker 3: All of that plenty more. But first, Andrew, we do
Speaker 3: like to ask our guest, what is something from your
Speaker 3: search history?
Speaker 2: My my search history again fever dream for the last
Speaker 2: two weeks, although you know, I don't think I should
Speaker 2: had a fever anyway, My search history is did they
Speaker 2: make that Korean sharpshooter into a Fortnite skin? Which seems
Speaker 2: like the most obvious, like money on the table, Yeah,
Speaker 2: thing I've ever and they did.
Speaker 3: Not given so many billion dollar ideas, right, I know,
Speaker 3: did they do that?
Speaker 1: Turkish dude? Dude, that's the one who he was so
Speaker 1: cat someone was saying, like he was explaining, He's like
Speaker 1: I like to use both eyes open, so I don't
Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff. And then a lot of
Speaker 1: people are like, that's how like military people talk like
Speaker 1: about shooting people Like that's sort of like yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a direct line, but they're like,
Speaker 1: that's that's like the kind of training you get when
Speaker 1: you're using like arms for hurting. But I think that
Speaker 1: was also part of like the hyperbolic excitement around the
Speaker 1: guy who had his hand in his pocket while winning
Speaker 1: a silver medal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people were trying to like hate on it, and
Speaker 3: they were like, this is actually a very normal way
Speaker 3: to aim, and there are some people who aim that way.
Speaker 3: It's just very uncommon. But everything they said still made
Speaker 3: me be like, the guy's kind of cool, Like that's
Speaker 3: kind of I like, I liked that dude.
Speaker 2: He did as this morning just before we logged in
Speaker 2: tweet very earnest fanboy stuff to Elon Musk that I think,
Speaker 2: which if you if you rewind and just even look
Speaker 2: at him, like if you showed that image to someone
Speaker 2: and just like yes or no, this guy loves Elon Musk. Yeah,
Speaker 2: before you you know, knew what under that this guy
Speaker 2: wants to drive a Tesla. Yeah, the answer is so
Speaker 2: we're just that's just he's just regressing to the obvious
Speaker 2: mean he presented.
Speaker 1: Yeh, look, we contain multitudes, you know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Though I don't he doesn't contain multitudes. That guy just
Speaker 2: nail the gun. Guy who looks like that, it acts
Speaker 2: like that. Of course the guy loves Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy who got stuck on his dick while
Speaker 3: pole vaulting actually just came out as big Trump supporter.
Speaker 1: Sucks.
Speaker 3: What is something you say is underrated?
Speaker 1: Andrew underrated?
Speaker 2: Okay, this was my other fever dream in COVID, I
Speaker 2: genuinely started like outlining this as an essay that I
Speaker 2: think I'm not going to do so Silicon Valley. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you guys have covered it in some level, but
Speaker 2: but there's been a broad spectrum of like failed or
Speaker 2: failing AI wearables. Yeah right, that like humane pin and
Speaker 2: this this new thing called friend and that's like the.
Speaker 1: Little speaker you wear on your neck, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my friend called it the AI amulet, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's basically what it is.
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 2: My my like thesis, that my quarter baked thesis is
Speaker 2: that like Silicon Valley, because it has been emptied of
Speaker 2: anyone normal or middle class lower middle class, there is
Speaker 2: not enough like street social pressure to have these people
Speaker 2: realize that they are like unpopular dorks like the in
Speaker 2: an AI amulate seems like a good business idea to
Speaker 2: a Silicon Valley person is because they live in a
Speaker 2: bubble where conspicuously participating in Silicon Valley shit is cool
Speaker 2: and they don't realize that humanity does not agree with
Speaker 2: them anymore, and so like, yeah, so underrated is bullying
Speaker 2: dorks for their own good because they have no like
Speaker 2: like there's no like actual focus group more real than
Speaker 2: like a bunch of fucking teenagers on the corner. And
Speaker 2: if someone had, like if there were normal pockets of
Speaker 2: normal people in San Francisco and Palo Alto, if you
Speaker 2: walked around with an Apple Vision pro, your industrial designers
Speaker 2: would quickly realize, oh, this is not going to work
Speaker 2: as a consumer product or a cyber truck or any
Speaker 2: of it. Right, But there's I think the market, like
Speaker 2: really cheap market testing where your new wearable tech to
Speaker 2: public high school when it gets out of there PM, Yeah,
Speaker 2: stand outside and just hear the kind of flaming you
Speaker 2: get from.
Speaker 1: An actual public high school.
Speaker 2: High no public high school where the property tax is
Speaker 2: less than whatever number would make a normal high school.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure, yeah, yeah exactly. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true, there is like so many of the ideas
Speaker 1: are like this only sounds good to like y'all, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you're not in the whole thing is like, what
Speaker 1: problem are you solving with this? Because it's not like
Speaker 1: I wish Star Trek was real. That's my problem that
Speaker 1: I need solving, like which, I get that part, But
Speaker 1: aside from that, that's not the kind of thing where
Speaker 1: suddenly it's like you get that kind of ubiquity where
Speaker 1: it's like, well, now everyone needs the aim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, or like, like I mean, the problem doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be a technical problem. You know, it can
Speaker 2: be I'm a fucking wristwatch guy. The problem can just
Speaker 2: be I want a piece of jewelry that shows that
Speaker 2: I'm part of this group. They just don't realize their group.
Speaker 1: Is not cool. An our group was cool for like, you.
Speaker 2: Know whatever, a small window from like twenty eleven, maybe
Speaker 2: for like a year, because it's like, oh, you can
Speaker 2: be rich and you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not. It's not obvious to everyone that you're evil yet, right.
Speaker 3: We actually wrote don't be evil on our letterhead, so
Speaker 3: where it.
Speaker 2: Worked, Yeah, as long as that worked for people, But
Speaker 2: it doesn't work anymore and they don't realize it.
Speaker 3: But then they all got so rich from that that
Speaker 3: they were able to just expel literally everybody else from
Speaker 3: the city in which they live. So now they're just
Speaker 3: all by themselves. Being impressed by each other and while
Speaker 3: doing things that believe you get your ass kicked for
Speaker 3: doing something like that. Just Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know enough people in the Bay that
Speaker 1: are are very sufficiently outraged enough by tech people. So like, yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all were counting on you, really make go harder on them,
Speaker 1: go harder on them. Let them just normal roast.
Speaker 2: Just you know, you don't have to you have to
Speaker 2: beat anyone's ass. You don't have to not feed anyone's ass.
Speaker 2: But you don't have to be or just say, oh,
Speaker 2: so you're a tough guy. Huh, and that's it. Just
Speaker 2: say that and let it keep it moving. So you
Speaker 2: tell me what what and then they'll be thinking about
Speaker 2: that all day.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Hey, I wear a bolt.
Speaker 2: I watched I watch I have so many images saved
Speaker 2: for a again, like a substack that I'll never write
Speaker 2: of people wearing a couple visions.
Speaker 3: And I did see somebody with the glasses again, glasses
Speaker 3: that are like the camera glasses like glass the camera
Speaker 3: on it, and they were like bragging about how good
Speaker 3: the quality of the video is.
Speaker 1: So for what though, Like what do you what are
Speaker 1: you surreptitiously videoing exactly. You know, it's better because then
Speaker 1: no one knows I'm taking video. Pretty cool. I'm just
Speaker 1: a guy with sunglasses at a at a volleyball practice,
Speaker 1: that's all. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, do you guys just
Speaker 1: like spend.
Speaker 2: Ten minutes thinking about the worst use case of this
Speaker 2: before you fucking release it and spell Nope, nope.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop you right there.
Speaker 2: Nope, we do not and ten minutes talking yeah, Like honestly,
Speaker 2: like like every tech company just needs one hater.
Speaker 1: They don't have any haters, and like, just one. Listen.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be Silicon Valley's hater, but someone
Speaker 1: needs to be the Silicon Valley. Can you imagine from this?
Speaker 1: They're like, Andrew, we'd love for you to come up
Speaker 1: to Palalo, right, We'd love to show you sort of
Speaker 1: like the new line of products we're thinking about and
Speaker 1: just fucking go to rip our heads off. Dude.
Speaker 3: It's much It's much cheaper than sending the street teams
Speaker 3: that we usually do out to Louisville, Kentucky to get
Speaker 3: made fun of.
Speaker 2: Truly, like, like someone there just needs to be like
Speaker 2: a consumer focus group company said, this is this is
Speaker 2: my actual billion nine dollar idea someone else could take
Speaker 2: in the Bay Area, which is like just like like
Speaker 2: your focus group is just like twenty diverse teams from
Speaker 2: lower middle.
Speaker 1: Class background ryes. Yeah, not people who like it's in Like,
Speaker 1: price isn't a barrier, like the people they talk to.
Speaker 1: Price isn't a barrier to like ninety nine percent of
Speaker 1: the products that they're hawking versus other people are like,
Speaker 1: first of all, do I even want to aspire to that? No?
Speaker 2: Or But even even if they're not representative, what they
Speaker 2: can do is find your vulnerability quickly.
Speaker 1: Right right right, Like ooh, so these they call these
Speaker 1: pedal goggles these yeah camera, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Oh if I saw someone wearing these, I would call
Speaker 2: the police. I would like to make sure I know
Speaker 2: why because my high school is, yeah, weird.
Speaker 1: They're weird. Okay, good to know, Good to know.
Speaker 3: Trying to think of, like what the other than the smartphone?
Speaker 3: What have been the successful products out of like that
Speaker 3: have like broken through the main stream that you like
Speaker 3: see on a regular basis out of Silicon Valley. The
Speaker 3: only thing I can think of is those hoverboards, But like,
Speaker 3: are those even out of Silicon Valley?
Speaker 1: Like those are everywhere they are.
Speaker 2: Out of shin in China. I'm pretty sure that's because
Speaker 2: that's like a gyroscope.
Speaker 1: It's not like that's not even the from yeah yeah yeah, right,
Speaker 1: aside from making like little gimb like stabilizing gimbal arms
Speaker 1: for like cell phones. That's like something I always see
Speaker 1: people hawking online. I feel like, honestly, I feel like
Speaker 1: the tablet was like the last thing that was new,
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh ship, yeah.
Speaker 3: Tablets not cool to walk around in any way, No,
Speaker 3: or take photos of at a sporting event.
Speaker 1: I would say Apple Watch kind of yeah. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: like mainly known for being a gift people return, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Is it well, it's it's like attack. I
Speaker 1: feel like yeah, because.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like, you know, this couldn't really count,
Speaker 2: Like like there's no reason a kid needs an Apple Watch.
Speaker 1: People need Apple Watch other people who like need their
Speaker 1: fucking like steps measured and hearts. I was saying, my niece,
Speaker 1: my niece, if she get my knees, got an Apple Watch,
Speaker 1: so she so they didn't have to get her a phone, right,
Speaker 1: and so that way there is a way. I was saying,
Speaker 1: like it looks like the twenty twenties version of like
Speaker 1: when a kid got a pager back in the day,
Speaker 1: right right, which is sort of like, yeah, you really
Speaker 1: can't do much dirt on this thing, but at least
Speaker 1: we can like talk Nokia bricks.
Speaker 3: Those are coming back in a big way with the kids.
Speaker 1: I've been on.
Speaker 2: I've been on a wired on my my my barely
Speaker 2: surviving constitutionals, evening constitutionals.
Speaker 1: I switched back to wired headphones. Oh yeah, yeah, which ones?
Speaker 1: What do you got?
Speaker 2: Just the regular ass because I just have an iPhone,
Speaker 2: so that came to the phone.
Speaker 1: Well, when you're marathon and like that, the battery can't
Speaker 1: keep up with your lifestyle. Andrew sixteen hours on the
Speaker 1: fucking block. No, bro, I know that you understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how my my phone battery like doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2: It's just a suggestion. It's just been like power all
Speaker 2: the way up and down.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That means, what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: Andrew overrated once again? Format purity Okay.
Speaker 2: As someone who was like, Okay, I found some YouTube
Speaker 2: I like or like, I mean, it's just like this
Speaker 2: kind of thing, like I've been like thinking about this
Speaker 2: for someone, but like, like the people who like I'm
Speaker 2: a fan of YouTube or like, like you know, the
Speaker 2: prior version of this was like streaming, Like, oh, streaming
Speaker 2: is materially different. Netflix is different than fucking broadcast TV.
Speaker 2: And it's the thing that like I remember when I
Speaker 2: worked at Comedy Central, I worked in the digital department,
Speaker 2: you know, years and years and years ago before Netflix
Speaker 2: was a huge thing, and I remember all of those
Speaker 2: people being like, one day we're gonna run this place.
Speaker 2: The whole and company is going to be Internet, and
Speaker 2: like they're like worship of like the fiber optic cable
Speaker 2: or the different fiber optic cable. I was like, this
Speaker 2: is fucking crazy, Like you just don't know shit about
Speaker 2: like developing TV shows, right, Oh, I remember you're saying that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, they're just gonna push you out once the
Speaker 2: medium is like lucrative and yeah, oh okay, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: This was like but I think that to me, it's
Speaker 2: the same thing that I was like, I don't like YouTube,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I do like some YouTube. This
Speaker 2: was my like same revelation.
Speaker 1: It was like right ready to come around. Yet it
Speaker 1: doesn't like mean anything, like it's just like.
Speaker 3: I mean, everything in his content is what you're seah,
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel man exactly.
Speaker 2: But also I will say this, this was my like
Speaker 2: first like like realization that like the cool thing of
Speaker 2: being like like gen Z millennials like just like and
Speaker 2: ironically using marketing speak to like describe themselves used to
Speaker 2: bum me out so much. And now I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we all make content guys, Yeah, creators, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Get in on this synergy. Man. Oh god, So.
Speaker 3: You're saying like format purity, being like, oh, I I
Speaker 3: only write for TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't care for you too. I love right.
Speaker 1: I'm just like really like music on it's really all
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, and it's all your heart. Your heart
Speaker 1: is opening. I like to see that. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And again that maybe because of cardiovascular damage, but we'll
Speaker 2: find out.
Speaker 1: We will find out. Report back.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back
Speaker 3: and we'll talk about some news.
Speaker 1: And we're back.
Speaker 3: We're back, and all right, let's check out with the polls,
Speaker 3: because they are in no way indicative of what's going
Speaker 3: to happen in the election, but they are indicative of
Speaker 3: which side is freaking out.
Speaker 1: We got some we got some intel. Yeah, yeah, she's up.
Speaker 1: Now about three points. I believe Kamala Harris. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: she's up. The polls nationally have swung her way forty
Speaker 1: six points to forty three points. At the beginning of
Speaker 1: January when it was Biden Trump Trump had a four
Speaker 1: point lead over Biden. So that's pretty substantial. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, oh it pretty much. Her
Speaker 1: entry into the race has negated like all the negatives
Speaker 1: that Biden had or lack of enthusiasm. So in a way,
Speaker 1: like a lot of the map looks different, more states
Speaker 1: are in play than previously believed. So yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of confidence for Democrats, for Republicans at mainly Trump, a
Speaker 1: lot of freaking out. Trump is like, these polls are fake. Okay, dude,
Speaker 1: And he's like he chickened out of like debating her,
Speaker 1: and he's like was also using logic, He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I lead in the polls, so why should I even
Speaker 1: have to debate. It's like, I'm sorry, when was that
Speaker 1: a condition of having a debate based on who was
Speaker 1: up or down in the polls? But okay, even people
Speaker 1: in truth social were calling him a coward for trying
Speaker 1: to avoid this debate with Kamala Harris. Which is a
Speaker 1: bit weird for them. I don't know if that's like
Speaker 1: also just people like having a you know, coordinated troll
Speaker 1: effort on truth social but like a hashtag was trending
Speaker 1: about like Trump's a coward, and I'm like, that can't
Speaker 1: be their people. Then he had a rally in Atlanta
Speaker 1: over the weekend, complained that I could have had a
Speaker 1: bigger crowd as Kamala, but the school organizers they're trying
Speaker 1: to shut us down like a bunch of communists. Like
Speaker 1: he had this whole thing about how they could have
Speaker 1: had more people in there, Like he was really fucking
Speaker 1: kept talking about how many more people could have been
Speaker 1: in this arena. And also like he added a new
Speaker 1: bit of like flair to the rally in the form
Speaker 1: of like these like gas air cannons that blew up
Speaker 1: on the side of the runway, like it was some
Speaker 1: kind of fucking WrestleMania entrance. I think this is clear
Speaker 1: He's like, we need better vibes. Do we have making
Speaker 1: the stat why do we have Amber Rose? Boy? All right,
Speaker 1: get the air cannons. So it looks like something is
Speaker 1: fucking excited. Are exciting about this? You know, these appearances
Speaker 1: but he continues now to just like still slur his
Speaker 1: way through speeches. I will play some clips from this
Speaker 1: Atlanta rally because you know, our man is still having
Speaker 1: the trouble with reading and words.
Speaker 3: It was wild, Like we talked about this last week,
Speaker 3: but it was wild how quickly when Biden dropped out,
Speaker 3: he was like, I don't have a cognitive defect.
Speaker 1: You do?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, he immediately got so insecure about that.
Speaker 1: It was also like Biden wasn't too old to run
Speaker 1: and you're like, sir, yeah, yo, bruh, shut up to me.
Speaker 1: Another eight year old Trump slurs at the rally. This
Speaker 1: is by far the most version. Exactly they aren't. They're
Speaker 1: just messpeech an area. But yeah, this is when where
Speaker 1: he does this thing though too, where it's like half
Speaker 1: year old but also half so insecure that like when
Speaker 1: he fucks up mid sentence, he completely pivots to try
Speaker 1: and make another point rather than be like, oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: did it like correcting anyway. Here's an example of this,
Speaker 1: when he says national wrecting anyway. You'll hear it, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Together, we will stop Kamala Harris's nation wreckting. I'll tell
Speaker 4: you what when you see what she's done.
Speaker 1: To our nation.
Speaker 4: She's wrecking our nation. The radicalism will take back our
Speaker 4: country from the worst administration in American history.
Speaker 1: Uh huh nation wrecked. Yeah, i'll tell you what. That
Speaker 1: didn't happen. You did. Yeah, what do you think you
Speaker 1: are proud of himself? On the second on the second
Speaker 1: take wrecking. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Yeah, yeah, wreck
Speaker 1: I've got an erecting. Here's the other thing. He also
Speaker 1: goes in on her saying something about violent marbs or mobs.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you should not stop.
Speaker 4: She said she was endorsing to fund the place and
Speaker 4: the police, and she said violent mobs. Let the violent
Speaker 4: mobs keep going.
Speaker 1: Okay, he need another one, he need another stab at
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's such a stark contrast, Like even from that
Speaker 1: rally that Kamala Harris had, like it was like wow, man,
Speaker 1: like they're saying there's like there's real political messaging in
Speaker 1: that speech where it's like they got the marbs, I
Speaker 1: need the mobs, and they wanted to fund the place
Speaker 1: in this place, I mean police just yeah. So uh.
Speaker 1: And then also there was like this moment too where
Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse was like I can't support Donald Trump anymore
Speaker 1: because he's not about the Second Amendment. And then very
Speaker 1: quickly he like had a Maya kolpa and it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm I got some bad advice from people. Obviously I'm
Speaker 1: going to be voting for Trump because they came for
Speaker 1: his ass when he tweeted that. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: unsure sureness happening. But you know, we'll see because there's
Speaker 1: a there's a there's a real good chance that a
Speaker 1: lot of the enthusiasm could be just erased with the
Speaker 1: wrong VP pick, at least from my perspective. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did most people. But yeah, the VP pick is really
Speaker 1: the next like I said, that's the final not one
Speaker 1: of the final things to put the ticket together where
Speaker 1: either people go or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's I will just say like it. It
Speaker 3: does make it clearer and clear, Like, how what a
Speaker 3: weird position the Republicans are in. And there is a
Speaker 3: lawnmower just going outside my window, just going off, so.
Speaker 1: I can't can't even hear it sounds good and that's.
Speaker 3: It might be a riding mower, all right, John, I
Speaker 3: can't see it, but I just hear it. What a
Speaker 3: weird position The Republicans are in because both parties had
Speaker 3: this same terrible problem and that their candidates are like
Speaker 3: way too old and kind of losing it, and the
Speaker 3: Democrats had it worse, and then like one one of
Speaker 3: them fixes the problem. It's just like, really, and like
Speaker 3: all their talking points were drawing attention to that. It's
Speaker 3: just a weird I don't know. I guess everybody's like
Speaker 3: pointing this out already, but it is just I don't know,
Speaker 3: like they both have the exact same horrorfule problem happened,
Speaker 3: and one of them just magically fixes it and he
Speaker 3: obviously can't fix it.
Speaker 1: I mean, Nikki Haley was like when I remember in
Speaker 1: the primary, she's like, the party that's gonna win is
Speaker 1: the one that ditches their elderly person, which you know
Speaker 1: when now that you look at you're like, huh, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I may have had. I know, you were saying that
Speaker 1: in the process of a primary to be like get
Speaker 1: rid of Trump and that's how we beat them. But
Speaker 1: now it really does feel like, oh yeah, just whoever
Speaker 1: gets real about like the leadership, it will help in
Speaker 1: terms of support, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, they were just so certain it was
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and and
Speaker 2: pretty rightful. I like the fact that it happened at
Speaker 2: all is like fucking amazing.
Speaker 1: It is really amazing.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they I think it's really hard for them
Speaker 3: to them to imagine h Trump doing it because it
Speaker 3: could never possibly ever happen. Like, just trying to imagine
Speaker 3: him being like, I'm gonna do it's best for the
Speaker 3: country is like makes you laugh.
Speaker 1: Like if he does that, it will be from a
Speaker 1: jet like en Root to Moscow. He's like, and I'm
Speaker 1: doing the best thing, which is I'll never come back
Speaker 1: because it's so quickd there, and I'm now kicking it
Speaker 1: with Steven Sagal, one of the coolest guys ever, so
Speaker 1: I know he's also like if he didn't, he for
Speaker 1: sure would then defer to or like like nominate fucking
Speaker 1: Don Junior. Right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you think that
Speaker 1: would be incredible? Could you imagine that debate? You know
Speaker 1: how much fucking blow that guy would probably be doing
Speaker 1: to be like, I gotta be confident there man for.
Speaker 3: The smallest appearance, Ye mar A Lago an interview with
Speaker 3: jd Vance before jd Vance was like a VP like
Speaker 3: that's but yeah, all coine, the VP race, it's really
Speaker 3: it's still it looks like it's down to Shapiro, Waltz
Speaker 3: and Kelly.
Speaker 1: There was something with some speculation when Mark Kelly tweeted
Speaker 1: something and deleted. I didn't read the headline. People oh
Speaker 1: my god, maybe they've had something to do with him
Speaker 1: being picked. Whatever, you know, I think there seems to
Speaker 1: be a lot of talk about who it should be,
Speaker 1: and right now I'm seeing more about who it shouldn't be,
Speaker 1: which is Josh Shapiro. And there are a few things
Speaker 1: happened towards the end of last week. There was a
Speaker 1: woman's group that's like advocates for safer workplaces like urged
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris to reconsider like picking Josh Shapiro because of
Speaker 1: the way he handled a sexual harassment case like within
Speaker 1: his own office and like paying this woman like a
Speaker 1: two hundred nin twenty five thousand dollars settlement from like
Speaker 1: public funds. And people were like, are you kind of
Speaker 1: like backing up, like your your homie that was perpetrating
Speaker 1: this stuff, which wasn't a great look. The UAW, the
Speaker 1: United Auto Workers, they said we'd rather not have Shapiro either,
Speaker 1: they said, uh, Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer, in Minnesota Governor
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz. Those were the top choices for the union.
Speaker 1: They pointed at. One of the big things was that
Speaker 1: Governor Shapiro is like big on school vouchers, and you know,
Speaker 1: like Sean Fayn was, like public education has been under
Speaker 1: attack for like from a Republican administrations forever. Like having
Speaker 1: somebody who's like less in on public education is a
Speaker 1: no for US dog Bernie Sanders and other unions with
Speaker 1: like Tim Waltz as well for his like working class
Speaker 1: cred you know, like Waltz like joined the auto workers
Speaker 1: on a picket line. People just like that. But it's
Speaker 1: interesting to see that like the establishment pick seems to
Speaker 1: be Shapiro, or at least a lot of pundits, both
Speaker 1: like the you know, center right and center center right
Speaker 1: ish like Republicans that now speak on places like MSNBC
Speaker 1: are also being like, obviously the the person it should
Speaker 1: be is Josh Shapiro and using the same sort of
Speaker 1: debunked logic we talked about last week, which is like,
Speaker 1: well he's from Pennsylvania. You need Pennsylvania to win. And
Speaker 1: because they like him in Pennsylvania, he can win Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: And a lot of research shows that that the VP
Speaker 1: pick has really very little impact on something or like
Speaker 1: that logic really isn't born out in the data. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but here we are today.
Speaker 2: I saw a stat probably on Twitter somewhere that was
Speaker 2: like part of his big approval rating is because Mega
Speaker 2: people love him, like a third of He has like
Speaker 2: approval from like a third of MEGA voters. And it's like, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: those people are not going to vote for kawbo Ara, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to happen. Well, it's like this goal with him,
Speaker 1: yeah right. And it's the same way we have these
Speaker 1: other sort of purple states where like you'll have like
Speaker 1: a Democrat win the governor the governor's mansion, and then
Speaker 1: down ballot they're like yeah, but Republicans for other stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, like where they're like between the two, I
Speaker 1: can make this choice or whatever. But the deep steaks,
Speaker 1: it's very touch and go. I mean, I think it
Speaker 1: feels like you're gonna you're gonna gain more or they'll
Speaker 1: be less hand ringing and less fracturing if you go
Speaker 1: as someone that is in Shapiro, when you already have
Speaker 1: people that are part of the coalition of voters Democrats
Speaker 1: recording like coming out and being like explicit and being
Speaker 1: like maybe not him, maybe not him. Yeah, Like there
Speaker 1: was another thing like people are pointing out Like when
Speaker 1: he was in college he wrote this like paper talking
Speaker 1: about Palestinians like being unable to like self govern, very
Speaker 1: very fucking backwards take on Palestinian people. His office was
Speaker 1: like he was twenty one in writing that. Also, don't
Speaker 1: ask him to comment on what is happening there now.
Speaker 2: But he is different, right, he is a different age now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that is indisputable.
Speaker 3: He did compare student protesters to the KKK, but otherwise
Speaker 3: it seems to be seems to have both feet on
Speaker 3: the ground there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he does seem to.
Speaker 3: So according to odds makers, who are true overlords can
Speaker 3: take bets on this, they said that he was he
Speaker 3: was like way out in front last Wednesday, but due
Speaker 3: to the pressure from some of the progressive wings of
Speaker 3: the party, Tim Waltz has been the betting benefactor of
Speaker 3: that push, going from plus fourteen hundred at UK book
Speaker 3: maker bet three sixty five to plus two seventy five
Speaker 3: on Sunday. So in a matter of like three days.
Speaker 3: He became pretty close with Shapiro fairly rapidly. I feel
Speaker 3: like gamblers are pretty good at like getting inside information
Speaker 3: on shit. So that's the one thing that's giving me hope.
Speaker 3: The history of the Democratic Party, like tacking towards the
Speaker 3: center is the thing that is not giving me hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The election market, though, is such a like like the
Speaker 2: election choices market.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is wild.
Speaker 2: That this is because it's like, like why, it's not like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's like a like a like a like
Speaker 2: a player's association or something like what is to stop
Speaker 2: someone from the Kamala Harris administration to just put a
Speaker 2: bunch of money into this market because they know the answer, right.
Speaker 1: So I almost like, yeah, like we're seeing some betting
Speaker 1: irregularities around the VP pick Like why wouldn't like this
Speaker 1: just feels like whoever it is, including Kamla herself, just
Speaker 1: fucking clean up would seem odd because it's not something
Speaker 1: that's I guess, you know, like an athletic competition seemingly
Speaker 1: up to chance or whoever the best performance zuro chance
Speaker 1: involved here? Who knows what this person is thinking except
Speaker 1: for maybe forty people who know was what she's thinking,
Speaker 1: maybe you tell people, but like it's.
Speaker 3: Interesting, amazing if Kamala was just in it for the
Speaker 3: action the whole, just like trying to get an edge
Speaker 3: on the betting markets.
Speaker 1: Murray, shit, yeah yeah. But the other thing that's like
Speaker 1: seeing like the like sort of center right punditry talk
Speaker 1: about it like they've they've said again they're like one
Speaker 1: of her vulnerabilities, like this is obviously coming from a
Speaker 1: center right perspective. Quote is the multitude of leftist positions
Speaker 1: she foolishly took in the twenty nineteen campaign. A Shapiro
Speaker 1: selection unambiguously moves the ticket to the center. Then they
Speaker 1: all go on. It's like and if Harris pulls back
Speaker 1: from Shapiro after the campaign against him from the left,
Speaker 1: it will look weak. Huh.
Speaker 3: It's it's the standard Democrat and mainstream media narrative that
Speaker 3: the Democrats have to It's the same thing that every
Speaker 3: time what's his name was writing about the saying that
Speaker 3: they should nominate Mitt Romney, It's like the Republicans, but say,
Speaker 3: you're Democrats. How could that ever backfire?
Speaker 1: Right? Right? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I will say like that though, was
Speaker 2: also the train of thought that was like, stick with Biden,
Speaker 2: stick with Biden. And I'm wondering if the very short term,
Speaker 2: like hey, not doing what these dummies always suggest, it
Speaker 2: seems to have worked.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, finally think in yeah, I mean in a way,
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, we thought this was an l
Speaker 1: going into it. But do we do we do we
Speaker 1: keep going against what accepted wisdom is that should be
Speaker 1: all this time? Do you guys want to try to win?
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just fucking around here. Call me crazy.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should try to win the selection this.
Speaker 1: Time, but hey, give me some of whatever Andrew's smoking.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do we want to win? Thought, he's try,
Speaker 1: let's try. Let's just try. I don't know, Miles, who
Speaker 1: am I? Do we want to win? You're some guy
Speaker 1: who's all fucked up off whatever Andrew's smoking. This guy's
Speaker 1: high as a kite.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back.
Speaker 3: And we're back. We're and we've been talking for a
Speaker 3: while to the delight of our audience. Some of our
Speaker 3: audience are like, we get it. AI is bullshit. Stop
Speaker 3: stop talking about this. But we have been talking for
Speaker 3: a while about how much of the mainstream media narrative
Speaker 3: around AI is kind of out of line with reality.
Speaker 3: How this idea of the artificial general intelligence that they
Speaker 3: are promising that I think the theory that they want
Speaker 3: us to keep in mind that they might have in
Speaker 3: mind is just like, yeah, it's like a person brain
Speaker 3: you stick in a washing machine and now you're washing machines.
Speaker 3: So fucking smart, bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah oh oh WHOA maybe a little less detergent on
Speaker 1: this one. Is this cop Okay, I don't want to handle.
Speaker 3: This, Yeah exactly, I don't mind to have a conversation
Speaker 3: with it. You never have to talk to people again.
Speaker 3: You just have a washing machine.
Speaker 1: That you're in love with.
Speaker 3: Anyways, It's all just a sophisticated version of the autocomplete
Speaker 3: fun function when you're texting is basically what they're working with.
Speaker 3: In the AGI we had AI experts on, they were like,
Speaker 3: this is all bullshit, Like it's not going to get
Speaker 3: you to a place where it's it's all just marketing.
Speaker 1: Right, And they're like, but they said it will. It's
Speaker 1: like yeah, so they can inflate the price of like
Speaker 1: the value of their companies, right, And I'm like, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: is this.
Speaker 2: The tipping point that like Wall Street kind of starts
Speaker 2: to realize that Silicon Valley just liars.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine because it would lose so many of
Speaker 3: them so much money, right to realize that, Like I
Speaker 3: feel like they're seeing the same shit we are. But yeah, so,
Speaker 3: like the one side is like people who are actual
Speaker 3: experts on how these AGI work are like, it's not
Speaker 3: what they claim it is. The other thing is like
Speaker 3: when you talk to people who pay attention to the
Speaker 3: stock market, they're like, a lot of value is tied
Speaker 3: up in AGI and like AI being what they say
Speaker 3: it is. And so it was like, on the one hand,
Speaker 3: you're like something has to give. On the other hand,
Speaker 3: you're like or not because they've been able to just
Speaker 3: like be heads down and maintain their like high stock
Speaker 3: market value throughout an entire pandemic, you know, like without
Speaker 3: really letting any of the reality in in a lot
Speaker 3: of cases. So anyways, stock markets around the world are tumbling,
Speaker 3: and one of the narratives that's coming up in line
Speaker 3: and with this fall is that people are losing patients
Speaker 3: with AI and AI companies, Like when are you going
Speaker 3: to be able to do the thing that you claimed
Speaker 3: this could do?
Speaker 2: Just a little bit longer, dude, exact four billion dollars
Speaker 2: a quarter, just like just a tiny.
Speaker 1: Four for b a q. Okay when you turn like
Speaker 1: the four billion dollars like inded, like any money broke, patient, dude,
Speaker 1: it's cooking man, just like, don't even invest if you
Speaker 1: don't want to be part of the future. Dog, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sick of this, dude. You can be poor, be poor,
Speaker 1: you can be a brokie. Dude.
Speaker 2: I in my fever dream, I did ask the meta
Speaker 2: AI how I could short AI stocks, and you would
Speaker 2: be surprised.
Speaker 1: At how little it wants to tell me that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, especially in depth answers on everything except that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean there's there's a Oh, financial advice is really
Speaker 2: tricky for a method.
Speaker 1: I can tell you which stocks you want to triple
Speaker 1: down on on AI right now if you were interested
Speaker 1: in that information. But yeah, this was like what the
Speaker 1: sequence of events was basically like that job's report.
Speaker 3: Report followed by investors selling off a lot of tech
Speaker 3: stocks and the quote once hot artificial intelligence trade tech
Speaker 3: shares were among the worst performers Monday.
Speaker 1: So yesterday I do.
Speaker 2: Like how this, I mean, surely this has to be
Speaker 2: among the quickest that like a tech trend has you know,
Speaker 2: because I feel like it took like even like the
Speaker 2: bullshit ones like cryptocurrency, like a while for like like
Speaker 2: people to kind of just generally realize this is because
Speaker 2: this is like still within the like mainstream publicity window,
Speaker 2: Like there are AI ads running during the Olympics for like,
Speaker 2: it's like like the AI yeah and so so like
Speaker 2: this is like the I guess the rug or the
Speaker 2: fucking scales have been lifted during the mainstream PR push,
Speaker 2: which seems much faster than usual.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said they were able to get that campaign
Speaker 1: done and then.
Speaker 2: You could have a coin based Super Bowl ad and
Speaker 2: most people still don't realize it's a scam, right, Whereas
Speaker 2: like I think most people realize AI is a scam
Speaker 2: while they're pushing it. I don't know, maybe not, do
Speaker 2: they not? I mean Wall Street, I don't like no
Speaker 2: one was like no one was like making money shorting
Speaker 2: coin base during the coin based Super Bowl ad, right right,
Speaker 2: which is what is happening with AI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it just seems faster.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I wasn't going to get there, but
Speaker 2: I was like, uh, is it just are we just
Speaker 2: realizing it now? Is AI more half baked as a
Speaker 2: grift than like cryptocurrency was, It's like weird. It's weird
Speaker 2: that they're they're like figured it out so soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just yeah. I mean, I think the one
Speaker 1: of the big ones was when like one of the
Speaker 1: like researchers, like Goldman Sachs was like, y'all, this thing
Speaker 1: ain't fucking doing shit. They're like, it's this like too
Speaker 1: much spend, too little benefit. And I think when once
Speaker 1: like Wall Street's like, bro, we're used to fucking making
Speaker 1: money here, Like we like giving you money because you
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get something back. But the whole, the
Speaker 1: whole name of the game here is shareholder value and
Speaker 1: we don't see the value right now. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean that's the thing is like does this trigger like
Speaker 1: a much larger recession is what's kind of freaky. Like
Speaker 1: the market correction around AI obviously can have cascading effects, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I my bet would be that it won't be
Speaker 3: the level of like complete evaporation that we saw with
Speaker 3: like Bitcoin and all all of the all the crypt markets,
Speaker 3: because like AI is like that with magic tricks where
Speaker 3: like it can answer a question where you're like it's back.
Speaker 1: It's back online, it's it's smart.
Speaker 3: You know, like there there are things that AI because
Speaker 3: AI is basically just a marketing phrase for like things
Speaker 3: computers do good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like any algorithmic thing
Speaker 3: that a computer does well. Like I feel like they're
Speaker 3: going to be able to keep coming back to this
Speaker 3: well and it will be profitable.
Speaker 2: I think they're just going to lose the term they
Speaker 2: they the miss stuff was in the marketing of AI. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, right, it's because it's nothing and it
Speaker 2: never will be ready.
Speaker 1: But it's not ready, not justparately yell and also, like
Speaker 1: I think everything it's also maybe they kind of benefited
Speaker 1: and got fucked over by what movies? How movies sort
Speaker 1: of inoculated us or we're like AI right. Haley Joel
Speaker 1: Osmond is a fake baby who goes around and talks
Speaker 1: with his robot Teddy Bear as they solve complex problems.
Speaker 1: Damn you know what I mean? Like there's show that
Speaker 1: movie was sad for me, like before.
Speaker 3: I had kids, I can't Oh yeah imagine watching that now,
Speaker 3: like oh my.
Speaker 1: God, like having kids. The age of Hailey Joe and
Speaker 1: I know when that my little robot is like at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the sea, like deactivated. I remember being like,
Speaker 1: what this sociopath would make a robot like that, Like
Speaker 1: if you actually made a robot that's shaped and acted
Speaker 1: like Hailey Joel Osmon, that would be a crime against humanity,
Speaker 1: like an actual crime against humanity doing that in real life. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so fucked up by so stupid way for the future.
Speaker 3: So and I do want to caveat this by saying
Speaker 3: I don't know shit about the stock market. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: it could be tomorrow. They're like, actually, none of that
Speaker 3: was like AI sell off. I don't know, it's just
Speaker 3: it does it is a reason to bring back up
Speaker 3: like it does feel like there is this bubble that
Speaker 3: is happening, and we at least know experts in AI
Speaker 3: say here's what it actually does. It's just an autocomplete,
Speaker 3: and the companies say it's this thing, so who knows.
Speaker 3: I'm not an expert. However, dat no fact. On Twitter,
Speaker 3: also new to the stock market but had had a
Speaker 3: good piece of analysis. They said, hello, I'm new to
Speaker 3: the stock market.
Speaker 1: Is it a good? Is it good?
Speaker 3: When the Intel CEO starts praying and quoted Pat Gelsinger,
Speaker 3: who wrote, let your eyes look straight ahead, fix your
Speaker 3: gaze directly before you, give careful thought to the paths
Speaker 3: for your feet, and be steadfast in all your ways
Speaker 3: Proverbs twenty six Proverbs.
Speaker 1: For something, Bros.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, one thing that has been nice about
Speaker 2: Twitter is like revealing how many of these alleged like
Speaker 2: cold calculating titans of industry are just as superstitious as
Speaker 2: any other dummy.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, yeah, they're not seeing the matrix. It's
Speaker 1: also a bunch of him there. They just got lucky there.
Speaker 1: It's like survivor bias.
Speaker 2: Like they're their dumb idea worked out, and like thus
Speaker 2: all of their like fake magic works quote unquote Yeah.
Speaker 3: And they go through the same life cycle of they're
Speaker 3: a dumb idea works out just by random chance.
Speaker 1: They read iinrand.
Speaker 3: They convince themselves that they're like magical geniuses.
Speaker 1: And then reality kicks in.
Speaker 3: They're like and lo, I said, unto the Lord.
Speaker 2: Please don't let this bunch of money please good, we
Speaker 2: just need.
Speaker 1: Enough compute all of my houses.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, Andrew T. What a pleasure having you
Speaker 3: as always on the daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Amazing. Is there workI media you've been enjoying.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah again, So I've watched so much YouTube and
Speaker 2: I think my favorite one about this AI thing was
Speaker 2: by a YouTuber named Angela Collier, who is I would
Speaker 2: say medium famous. But the one I really liked that's
Speaker 2: relevant to today's topics was the malicious optimism of AI
Speaker 2: first companies. And she goes on this run about when
Speaker 2: the CEO of Zoom was like, we'll be able to
Speaker 2: have like basically like robot versions of yourself, do your
Speaker 2: Zoom meetings and do your entire job, and and this
Speaker 2: is good for you, the consumer, really good for you.
Speaker 2: It's very funny. Yeah, it's like oh yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's probably the pitch. His pitch was like, you can
Speaker 2: just send the like AI version of yourself to meetings
Speaker 2: and you can go to the beach, right, And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's definitely what your employer is good.
Speaker 1: That's definitely how No, No, we'll pay you you go
Speaker 1: to the beach. As long as your ghost software is
Speaker 1: this robot that we own that does your entire job,
Speaker 1: we will definitely continue paying you.
Speaker 2: But also, I'm way like to this, and I hope
Speaker 2: I haven't said this previously, but I've been. I'm listening
Speaker 2: NonStop pretty much. The I saw the TV Glows soundtrack.
Speaker 1: It's very good. Nice, I like it. I will just
Speaker 1: say I like the movie. I like this better than
Speaker 1: the movie. Wow, amazing.
Speaker 3: Check it out, folks, Miles Gray. Where can people find
Speaker 3: use their work media you've been enjoying? Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at
Speaker 1: Miles of Gray. If you like basketball, like Jack and
Speaker 1: I do, you can catch us on Miles and Jack
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Speaker 1: Like she's so insulated where like she wouldn't even allow
Speaker 1: people like, JK, your walls do you just have? Like
Speaker 1: like the bathtub running all day every day for years?
Speaker 1: Is something happening? Are you are your mirrors like constantly
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Speaker 1: go to a lot of the same places and Marla
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Speaker 1: She hits him sometimes very hard, and he says, thank you, dear.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore.
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Speaker 3: Mickey Lamas, I don't know, m I kk I e
Speaker 3: l A. M As tweeted I'd be dead if I
Speaker 3: was in a quiet place because I'd be farting.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I saw that went too Yeah, hell yeah.
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Speaker 3: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
Speaker 1: What is a song that we.
Speaker 3: Think you might enjoy? Hey, Miles, Yeah, is there a
Speaker 3: song that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 1: Yes, I think they're gonna like this track by Jordana
Speaker 1: and TV Girl called Better in the Dark. It's got
Speaker 1: like it's got this like breath, the sort of you know,
Speaker 1: DIY pop kind of vocals, but the production feels like
Speaker 1: if like a rap like boombap sample. Producer was like,
Speaker 1: I need to kind of make like an accessible indie
Speaker 1: pop track. This is what they would come up with.
Speaker 1: So I like the production on it because it's like
Speaker 1: sample heavy, but the vocals are completely different than you know,
Speaker 1: most sample based productions like this, I feel kind of
Speaker 1: more straightforward. So yeah. Better in the Dark by Jordana.
Speaker 3: TV bro Oh shit, the I saw the glow of
Speaker 3: the TV is from alex G. That's like one of
Speaker 3: my favorite musicians.
Speaker 1: Shut up to alex G.
Speaker 3: And yeah, did this filmmaker do the We're All Going
Speaker 3: to the World's Fair?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, okay, I have not.
Speaker 3: Seen Yeah, but he did the soundtrack for that as well. Cool,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm very slow with my Google fingers. Anyways,
Speaker 3: we will link off to that song in the footnotes.
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