WEBVTT - Anyway... 0 And 2 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.280 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:23.200 Arm Strong and Jetty and know he Armstrong Andedty So 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.239 pron is just indicted by a Branduri and Maryland. You 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.000 have a reaction to that. I didn't know that, you 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.040 tell me for the first time. But I think he's, 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:35.600 you know, a bad person. I think he's a bad guy. Yeah, 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.400 he's a bad guy, too bad. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:38.840 But that's the way it goes. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.040 That's the way it goes, right, that's the way it goes. Well, 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.760 I have you reviewed the case against him? No, I haven't. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.880 I haven't, But I just think he's a bad person. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.479 Donald Trump, reacting to the news that his former National 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.600 security advisor John Bolton had been indicted yesterday, mostly for 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:59.040 having classified information that he mishandled and putting someone his 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.520 book in that sort of thing. Before we hear a 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:08.280 little more on this, this never ending race to the 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.720 bottom that we've got going on in our politics, because 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.080 this is like not even shocking really, whereas you go 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.880 back a decade, it would have been amazing to indict 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.600 a national security advisor on anything, let alone classified information 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:29.800 or something but well, national Security Advisor, Ambassador to the UN, 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.119 and a couple of other high positions, and a guy 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:40.720 who's credentials as a rock ribbed American patriot or just unquestioned. Right, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.240 but we do have the whole everything is classified and 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:49.120 everybody seems to treat it as classified stuff is not 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.400 that big a deal until you get caught, and then 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.120 the letter of the law is way different than the 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.400 way people seem to act with their classified information. You know, 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.640 see Hillary Clinton's email server. Kinds of different examples out there, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:07.080 Trump and Biden and everybody else. Everybody takes classified information home, 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.040 puts it in the backseat of the car, stores it 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.280 in the garage, puts it on uh you know. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:18.120 Group text calls or whatever. Right, but then when you 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:23.520 need to hammer somebody, you can get them for the 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.680 equivalent of going two miles per hour over the speed line, right, Exactly. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.200 The interesting one about Look, I'm not claiming, I'm not 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.160 claiming with any authority that is the case here, but 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.560 it's definitely that sort of environment. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.359 So you got the whole retribution thing going on. If 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:44.560 that's what this is so comy. The FBI director is 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:50.000 a scumbag liar creep. Still might be retribution that is 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:54.400 not cool, but you know, at least there's some karma 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.200 in there. Then you got the Letitia James woman. Nobody 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.600 thinks that case would have ever been brought again if 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.760 it weren't for Trump being pissed off. But she's getting 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.440 a taste of her own medicine too. Bolton, all he 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.360 did was bad mouth for the president. I think, yes, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.920 and yeah, yeah, so that seems like a slightly different category. 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.359 But anyway, here's how CNN treated the story yesterday. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.440 Some of the things in these documents, those eighteen counts 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.880 essentially correspond to individual pieces of information that would be 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:30.240 top secret, classified or individual documents. Those eighteen counts reveal 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:34.400 things like information about foreign leaders, intelligence of the US 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.880 was collecting about foreign attacks. One was revealing intelligence where 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:43.400 a foreign country was considering specific force against another country. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.920 So really high level stuff there. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.440 That the prosecutors say, John Bolton should have known that 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:54.560 he shouldn't have kept even to himself on an unsecured place. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.720 What's your exasperation? A load of crap? That was She 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:04.040 characterized several different things in ways that made them sound scary. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.200 How scary were they? How specific were they, what leaders? 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.280 What was the time period involved? Was there any real 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.000 or imagined the potential damage to the US national interest 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.039 Because of those specific disclosures, it's all left You're vague 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.000 and kind of exciting sounding. Well, that was a load 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:21.679 of crap. 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.599 Well, like I said, every one of these classified cases 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.880 ends up being this conversation of the that was classified, 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:29.720 But what was it? 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:36.760 And how big descriptions of foreign leaders? Ladimir Putin is 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:41.600 taller than Benjamin Netanyahu is a description of foreign leaders. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.360 But so your argument that CNN's going out of their 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:45.839 way to make Trump's case. 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.560 No, just to make it sound exciting in top secret, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.680 I just that was that was nothing. They gave me nothing. Yeah. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.200 Oh, I've been bothered by all these classified stories. I 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.680 feel like, clearly we need to take a look at 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:04.200 the way we classify information in one percent, But the 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:04.960 CNN goes on. 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.520 We've spoken to people who believe maybe there is more 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.080 strength to this case than the ones we've seen against 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.559 people like the former FBI director or the Attorney General 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.360 for New York, given the emails and the information that 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:18.520 they have their hands on. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.000 Now that I'm less exasperated by that one, that is 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.720 entirely possible, although she mentioned a couple of very very 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:30.080 different cases there. We'll just have to wait and see. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:34.120 But it's also worth remembering the left despises John Bolton. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.720 The only time they ever gave him anything other than 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.600 you know, hatred was when in his book he said 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.400 he didn't think Trump was very sharp, didn't think he 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.359 was qualified to be president. And then he got on 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.720 all the Sunday talk shows and treated like, you know, 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:55.040 a wise veteran of the DC circuit. When they absolutely hated. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.640 Him when he was working in the Trump administration and 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.360 before that for decades, they hated eah because he's pretty 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.480 what's the term they always you, Neil connie. He kind 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:09.040 of likes to get involved in other countries, attacking them 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:09.520 and whatnot. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.640 Well, the left hated him well for that, and also 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:18.120 because he's a patriot and believes in projecting American military power. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:18.920 So I want, I. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.000 Haven't heard this, so I was wondering what Jonathan Turley, 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:27.280 he is the law professor from Georgetown, George Mason, whichever 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:31.080 one it is, one of them fancy cologists and Washington. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:35.400 He's always on Fox, and this is what he said 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:36.240 about the case. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.960 Two arguments will not work in that courtroom. One is 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.760 that this is all old classified information. It doesn't matter 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.080 if it's old or brand new. If it's still classified, 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.320 you violate the statute. The other argument is that everyone 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:57.000 does this, that as Abby said, everyone has diaries. Well, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.760 that's not going to fly either in that courtroom. I mean, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.360 you know he's going to try with just as Comy's 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.640 going to try and James is going to try to 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:09.560 bring up a vindictive prosecution claim and also a selective 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:10.960 prosecution so both of those. 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:13.400 Generally, courts do not go for those. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.560 If you have a viable criminal case that comes out 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.200 of a grand jury, they tend not to want to 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:23.160 look at motivations. This indictment looks pretty serious. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.040 Yeah, that's why we got We got to figure out 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.360 this whole classified information thing and come up with a 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:34.000 category that actually means this would damage the country. And 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.000 if you start playing fast and loose with that, you 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:40.600 should be in trouble. But just the meeting, random notes 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.560 from a meeting that wouldn't mean anything to anybody, but 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:49.680 they're classified whatever. Yeah, and even they were classified, but 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.480 now everybody knows it. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.640 Yeah. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.040 One of the reasons one of the many reasons I'm 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.600 bothered by this whole thing. Is U I heard David 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.080 Petraeus on a podcast yet today he was actually doing 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.760 the Telegraph podcast that I listened to about the war 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.200 in Ukraine. David Petraeus, he was the guy in charge 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.840 of our entire war on terror in the Middle East 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:12.320 for star General. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:13.600 He's brilliant. 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.680 I was listening to him on there and thinking the 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.440 fact that he got caught with classified information he was 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.400 sharing with his mistress again one of these stories that 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.160 technically was true. But did it do any damage to 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.640 national security? I don't think that it did, and he 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.440 can't be part of our government anymore. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.920 Is one of our most brilliant warriors out there. So 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:37.600 here's the probable Bolton defense. It's not well, the stuff 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.080 Turtley mentioned might be part of it, and he had 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.679 it hidden his mustache. But that's a pretty good defense. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.840 That's no no, That is no no. What was I 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:50.160 gonna say? Ah? And I don't know with certainty that 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:54.360 there aren't countervailing facts that make this meaningless. Until you 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:59.040 know the facts, you don't know the truth anyway, mister Bolton. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:06.040 Allegation is that Bolton wrote diary entries that included classified information, 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.720 then transmitted those on eight occasions to Individual one and 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.439 Individual two, who are his wife and daughter. Neither had 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.959 clearance to handle classified material, although the indictment makes no 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.800 claim that they did mishandle it in any way, They 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.640 just read it and thought, oh, interesting. Mister Bolton is 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.480 likely to claim that he had every right to keep 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.959 a diary based on his memory to write a book 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.440 Jimmy Carter's NSC Advisors a big new Brazinski wrote extensive 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.719 journal entries that informed his memoir back in the day. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.080 The indictment makes much of the fact that the information 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.520 mister Bolton is accused of mishandling did not appear in 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.959 his book after his draft was reviewed by the White House. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.760 But the review process exists to safeguard national secrets, and 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:49.480 mister Bolton subjected himself to it. Prosecutors will have to 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.480 prove mister Bolton knew his diary notes contained national secrets 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.400 rather than being recollections that would be subject to review 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:59.480 before becoming public. Who knew that those were two different things? 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.880 And the prosecutors also make much of the detail that 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.760 one of mister Bolton's accounts was hacked by Iran, but 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.280 mister Bolton disclosed that to the FBI and worked closely 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.640 with the bureaus that sought to counter the Iranian efforts 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.760 Bob bah Bah. So he says, look, everything you're talking 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.200 about was reviewed by the White House before my book 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.600 was published, and I told the FBI the minute I've 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.560 realized I was hacked, you know. And the Wall Street 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:30.480 Journal editorial board says, this all stinks of what Joseph 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.440 Stalin's head of Secret Police once said, You show me 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:34.880 the man, and I'll show you the crime. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.640 Yeah, the Iranian hack angle of it is pretty interesting. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.560 And there was a guest on Joe Scarborough Show this 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.040 morning I want you to hear from in just a second. 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.520 But since we're talking about hacks, whether it's Iran or 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.240 Russia or whoever hacking into your stuff, there's a way 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.040 to deal with that. Web Root. It's a really good idea. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:54.920 Every day there's a new way to trick you out there, 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.440 from tech scams to data breaches. It's hard to keep up, 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.640 but that's why this cyber scaries month. 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This arose in the Biden administration, and 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:08.559 but what seems to be the case is that they 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.920 did not know the extent of what was in at 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.160 least one of his email accounts until they discovered that 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.720 Iran they discovered the material that Iran had hacked through 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:22.000 a US intelligence penetration of Iran. That's according to my reporting. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.920 And that's one of the reasons this case is didn't 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.000 go forward in the Biden administration is because officials were 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:31.320 concerned about revealing that penetration. The Trump administration has made 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.160 a different calculation. They're okay with revealing it. They've revealed 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.959 it now to the Iranians. So whatever penetration they had 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.760 is now shut down. That's how badly they wanted to 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.680 prosecute John Bolton. And that's where you can ask questions 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.400 about whether this case should have gone forward. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.199 Well, that's interesting, and you could make the argument either 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.160 direction on that. Sometimes it's a good idea to keep 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.319 it a secret that you've hacked into somebody. Sometimes it's 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.360 good to let them know that, hey we can, we 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.680 can get in and listen to everything. We've seen, everything 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:57.120 you've got. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.480 So yeah, well, and I'm remember I'm reminded rather of 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:06.360 another major hurdle in talking about cases like this is 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.800 that they'll say, hey, this guy had highly classified information. 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.480 That's dangerous. Oh yeah, really tell me about it. We 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.040 can't because it's highly classified and dangerous. Just take our 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:17.719 words for it. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.280 We've got our two hour retrospective on Ace Freeley, the 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.400 guitar player from Kiss. Coming up will cover his entire life, 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.040 his childhood, why the Less Paul to make up Everything, 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.479 among other things on the way stay with us. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.440 His founding member and lead guitarist, Ace Freeley has died. 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.520 His family says he passed away peacefully surrounded by family 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.120 after a recent fall at home. Freely helped to form 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.760 the iconic rock band Kiss back in the early seventies. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.760 He was a Grammy nominee and a Rock and Roll 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.400 Hall of Famer. Ace Freely was just seventy four. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.480 Yeah, gotta be pretty old to have actually lived through 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:58.000 the heyday of Kiss. I am pretty old, so I did. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.640 I was never really a Kiss guy, but man, my 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:05.840 friends were in grade school. Here's a little perspective that 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:10.319 you were hinting at. After thirty years with the band, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.360 he left in two thousand and two, which was twenty 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:17.200 three years ago, a quarter of century, and then came back, 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.400 and then left again, and then whatever he did. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.680 So there's some kiss song. I always thought it was idiotic. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.600 As a kid, some of my friends were huge kiss fans. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:30.160 I was utterly contemptuous of them. He thought it was Yeah, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.640 I thought, what this is stupid? So you don't want 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.280 to rock and roll all night and party every day? 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.200 Is that what you're saying. Not really, I need to 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.400 take the weekends off. They don't call you doctor love. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.880 So there's surely there's some kiss song that My brother, 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.600 who's a huge music fan, says he has got the 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.520 greatest guitar one of his favorite all time guitar solos 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.200 in it, which would be Ace Freely. But I don't 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.640 remember which song it was. I got to check that 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.800 out today because I don't remember being wowed by any 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:01.600 kiss songs. Really, I had one more kissing one final note. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:06.200 I thought that because of teenage pretensions, not because it's 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.840 necessarily true. If you enjoyed it, you enjoyed it, Good 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:09.600 for you. Oh sure. 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.080 But Hanson said that because our executive producer, Hanson lived 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.200 in San Diego, very big chunk of his life, and 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.960 as Freely lived there, and he said you'd see Ace 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:22.480 Freely at the mall regularly like there is in the Nordstrom, which. 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.280 Is kind of funny if you're of a certain age that. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.200 You know, the master of doom and the devil and 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.520 corrupting children everything. There there is as an old man 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.680 standing at Nordstrom, you know, looking for a new pair 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:33.520 of comfortable pants. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:38.800 I thought he was working. He might have been working there. No, Michael, No, 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.400 so wrong, so wrong. No, he was. He was a 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.720 rock star back when rock stars made crazy money. Yeah, 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:48.080 although certainly, as many an NBA and NFL player has proved, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.960 if you want to squander at all, you certainly can. Man. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.720 We talk about that a lot. But with string you 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.160 make no money on your Your albums. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:56.320 Were like that. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.880 But back in the day Kissed they had to be 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.040 crazy easy raking in the money at some point, partly 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.040 because Gene Simmons their basis the dragon looking guy with 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:07.600 the tongue and the blood and everything. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.320 It is absolute genius entrepreneur. And he was one of 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.200 the first guys in rock music to say selling out, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.440 are you kidding? That's why I'm here. And in terms 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:24.720 of merchandise, especially oh, they they taught Disney how to merchandise. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.920 And which is what's interesting about that. Is that the 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.320 guy who would bite down on these red capsules to 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.320 make it look like he had blood streaming out his 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.000 mouth during Why is that appealing during a concert? 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.920 Didn't drink at all or do drugs? And is just 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:40.600 a businessman? 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:47.640 Yeah, exactly, Yeah, a businessman wearing twelve inch high boots 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.040 and skulls on his knees. 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:53.400 Fasis exactly, yes, spitting fake blood at correct, it's correct, 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:54.520 and it's. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.440 Sold like craze I would say, And I can I 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:01.680 can remember its being so dangerous and everything for my 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:02.800 friend customer. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.400 That's right, right, right right. Anyway, we don't have much time, 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.480 do we I had a couple of notes on Barry 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.560 Weiss's early days run in CBS News. One of the 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.760 first ones, real quick, is that they were talking about 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.240 the hostage deal and the hamasteel and the rest of 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.960 it in Gaza and she proposed an idea round table 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.760 panel with former Secretaries of State Hillary Clinton, Mike Pompeo 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.920 and Anthony Blinken. Wow. And everybody's like, no, you can't 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.440 book them, and we don't really do round table political discussions, 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.320 can you imagine? And she said no, I'll make a 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.720 couple of calls and by a couple of afternoons later, 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.679 the three panelists initially agree to sit down for an 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.399 interview hosted by Norah O'Donnell. Which is a brilliant IDEA 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.639 second thing that I really really wanted to get to, 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.159 back to the whole thing that Marxists. You know, we 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:51.680 don't have time for this, and I don't want to 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.480 rush my way through it, so I'm not going to. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.280 You can't make me. I'll give you a hint. Barry 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:05.159 Weisse Lesbie, first LGB person to run network news like that, 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:09.160 not a peep out of activists, not a peep Why 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:15.040 because she's the wrong kind of lesbian. Excellent point. Armstrong 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:15.679 and Getty. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.960 Regime change may or may not be on the table, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.560 but the President says, the US is at war with 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:24.280 Venezuelan drug traffickers. 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.840 We are certainly looking at land now because we've got 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.400 to see very well under control. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.640 Just yesterday, the Pentagon launched another strike on an alleged 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.760 drug boat off Venezuela's coast. This is the fifth such 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.439 strike in recent weeks that have killed more than twenty 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.560 suspected NARCO terrorists in international waters. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:47.320 The President, talking about the campaign against narco traffickers from Venezuela, 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.680 narco terrorists, which is an important term for legal reasons, 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.720 right indeed, and making it clear that we're looking at 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.520 perhaps attacks on land as well as usual. As Trump, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:59.520 he left several words out of the sentence, so you 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.880 have to kind of interpret it. Here's a little more 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.920 of the latest from Martha rad At s ABC three. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:10.000 Nuclear capable B fifty two heavy bombers flew for hours 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:14.040 in the Caribbean waters, less than ninety miles from Venezuela. 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.720 The move comes in the midst of a major US 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.080 military build up in the region of some ten thousand 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.960 US troops, including Special Operations helicopters the kind used by 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:29.840 Navy Seals and Delta Force now conducting exercises in the Caribbean. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:31.480 The US military has. 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.239 Already launched at least five deadly air strikes on what 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:39.760 the administration claims are boats operated by drug cartels. 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.600 I'm not plugged into what the most maga of maga 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.719 people want, really, but I gotta believe B fifty two's 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.200 flying over Venezuela wasn't on anybody's list of things when 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:52.000 Trump got elected. 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.080 Yeah, I too kind of have to guess at what 0:19:56.160 --> 0:20:01.160 the bulk of MAGA thinks. A bunch of different stuff. Usually, Yeah, 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.560 it's looking more and more like Trump is serious about 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.800 regime change in Venezuela. 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:11.800 That's the bottom line. B fifty two bombers capable of 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.560 carrying nuclear weapons. I doubt we're gonna nuke Venezuela. That'd 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:18.280 be a pretty earth shattering move. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.040 That would be controversial, Yeah, to say the least. And 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.640 I'm scanning around various of my favorite thinkers, uh, trying 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.320 to figure out what's going on here. I will tell 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.320 you this just asn't aside, then we can move on 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.840 from it. But the blowing up the drug boats, which 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.160 lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have said, Hey, 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.120 what's what's your justification again on that? 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.159 Can you spell that out for us a little bit 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.800 or how certain are you that these drug boats were 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.280 taking were drug boats and they were headed to the 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.919 United States. They could be fishermen, or they could be 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.200 drug boats headed to a different country, and that doesn't 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.320 mean we get to kill them. So yeah, it gets 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:56.200 a little complicated. 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.199 Oh, they can be drug boats going fishing. It's my 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.800 day off of sporting drugs. I'm gonna see if I 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:02.879 can land me at Tuna. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.200 I do enjoy a good halibit in between moving fentnyl. 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:12.879 That's right, Well, this is interesting. Admiral Alvin Holsey of 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.560 the United States, who runs Southern Command, which includes the Caribbean, 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:21.280 is cutting his four year term short and retiring after 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:28.720 basically one year on December the twelfth. And it does 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:33.640 not take a military a jag officer to figure out 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:39.280 what's going on here. This guy thinks we cannot justify this. 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.639 This is not legally justified under the laws of the 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.040 United States and the laws of war. 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:47.080 I don't want any part of this. I'm out. Well, 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.400 I have to see what the fallout is from that. 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.679 That's you know, that's a supposition on my part. But 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:56.359 I'm told by sources close to sources that the guy's 0:21:56.440 --> 0:22:01.199 reputation is sterling as a patriot, no warrior. 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.000 Well, since since a law you know, the MAGA thing 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.040