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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and know he Armstrong Andedty So

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Speaker 2: pron is just indicted by a Branduri and Maryland. You

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Speaker 2: have a reaction to that. I didn't know that, you

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Speaker 2: tell me for the first time. But I think he's,

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Speaker 2: you know, a bad person. I think he's a bad guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a bad guy, too bad.

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Speaker 1: But that's the way it goes.

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Speaker 2: That's the way it goes, right, that's the way it goes. Well,

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Speaker 2: I have you reviewed the case against him? No, I haven't.

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Speaker 2: I haven't, But I just think he's a bad person.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, reacting to the news that his former National

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Speaker 3: security advisor John Bolton had been indicted yesterday, mostly for

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Speaker 3: having classified information that he mishandled and putting someone his

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Speaker 3: book in that sort of thing. Before we hear a

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Speaker 3: little more on this, this never ending race to the

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Speaker 3: bottom that we've got going on in our politics, because

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Speaker 3: this is like not even shocking really, whereas you go

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Speaker 3: back a decade, it would have been amazing to indict

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Speaker 3: a national security advisor on anything, let alone classified information

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Speaker 3: or something but well, national Security Advisor, Ambassador to the UN,

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Speaker 3: and a couple of other high positions, and a guy

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Speaker 3: who's credentials as a rock ribbed American patriot or just unquestioned. Right,

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Speaker 3: but we do have the whole everything is classified and

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Speaker 3: everybody seems to treat it as classified stuff is not

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Speaker 3: that big a deal until you get caught, and then

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Speaker 3: the letter of the law is way different than the

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Speaker 3: way people seem to act with their classified information. You know,

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Speaker 3: see Hillary Clinton's email server. Kinds of different examples out there,

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Speaker 3: Trump and Biden and everybody else. Everybody takes classified information home,

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Speaker 3: puts it in the backseat of the car, stores it

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Speaker 3: in the garage, puts it on uh you know.

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Speaker 2: Group text calls or whatever. Right, but then when you

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Speaker 2: need to hammer somebody, you can get them for the

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Speaker 2: equivalent of going two miles per hour over the speed line, right, Exactly.

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Speaker 2: The interesting one about Look, I'm not claiming, I'm not

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Speaker 2: claiming with any authority that is the case here, but

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Speaker 2: it's definitely that sort of environment.

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Speaker 3: So you got the whole retribution thing going on. If

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Speaker 3: that's what this is so comy. The FBI director is

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Speaker 3: a scumbag liar creep. Still might be retribution that is

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Speaker 3: not cool, but you know, at least there's some karma

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Speaker 3: in there. Then you got the Letitia James woman. Nobody

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Speaker 3: thinks that case would have ever been brought again if

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Speaker 3: it weren't for Trump being pissed off. But she's getting

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Speaker 3: a taste of her own medicine too. Bolton, all he

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Speaker 3: did was bad mouth for the president. I think, yes,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, yeah, so that seems like a slightly different category.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, here's how CNN treated the story yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Some of the things in these documents, those eighteen counts

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Speaker 4: essentially correspond to individual pieces of information that would be

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Speaker 4: top secret, classified or individual documents. Those eighteen counts reveal

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Speaker 4: things like information about foreign leaders, intelligence of the US

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Speaker 4: was collecting about foreign attacks. One was revealing intelligence where

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Speaker 4: a foreign country was considering specific force against another country.

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Speaker 2: So really high level stuff there.

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Speaker 4: That the prosecutors say, John Bolton should have known that

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Speaker 4: he shouldn't have kept even to himself on an unsecured place.

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Speaker 2: What's your exasperation? A load of crap? That was She

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Speaker 2: characterized several different things in ways that made them sound scary.

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Speaker 2: How scary were they? How specific were they, what leaders?

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Speaker 2: What was the time period involved? Was there any real

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Speaker 2: or imagined the potential damage to the US national interest

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Speaker 2: Because of those specific disclosures, it's all left You're vague

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Speaker 2: and kind of exciting sounding. Well, that was a load

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, every one of these classified cases

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Speaker 3: ends up being this conversation of the that was classified,

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Speaker 3: But what was it?

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Speaker 2: And how big descriptions of foreign leaders? Ladimir Putin is

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Speaker 2: taller than Benjamin Netanyahu is a description of foreign leaders.

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Speaker 3: But so your argument that CNN's going out of their

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Speaker 3: way to make Trump's case.

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Speaker 2: No, just to make it sound exciting in top secret,

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Speaker 2: I just that was that was nothing. They gave me nothing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I've been bothered by all these classified stories. I

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Speaker 3: feel like, clearly we need to take a look at

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Speaker 3: the way we classify information in one percent, But the

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Speaker 3: CNN goes on.

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Speaker 1: We've spoken to people who believe maybe there is more

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Speaker 1: strength to this case than the ones we've seen against

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Speaker 1: people like the former FBI director or the Attorney General

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Speaker 1: for New York, given the emails and the information that

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Speaker 1: they have their hands on.

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Speaker 2: Now that I'm less exasperated by that one, that is

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Speaker 2: entirely possible, although she mentioned a couple of very very

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Speaker 2: different cases there. We'll just have to wait and see.

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Speaker 2: But it's also worth remembering the left despises John Bolton.

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Speaker 2: The only time they ever gave him anything other than

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Speaker 2: you know, hatred was when in his book he said

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Speaker 2: he didn't think Trump was very sharp, didn't think he

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Speaker 2: was qualified to be president. And then he got on

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Speaker 2: all the Sunday talk shows and treated like, you know,

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Speaker 2: a wise veteran of the DC circuit. When they absolutely hated.

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Speaker 3: Him when he was working in the Trump administration and

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Speaker 3: before that for decades, they hated eah because he's pretty

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Speaker 3: what's the term they always you, Neil connie. He kind

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Speaker 3: of likes to get involved in other countries, attacking them

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Speaker 2: Well, the left hated him well for that, and also

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Speaker 2: because he's a patriot and believes in projecting American military power.

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Speaker 2: So I want, I.

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Speaker 3: Haven't heard this, so I was wondering what Jonathan Turley,

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Speaker 3: he is the law professor from Georgetown, George Mason, whichever

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Speaker 3: one it is, one of them fancy cologists and Washington.

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Speaker 2: He's always on Fox, and this is what he said

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Speaker 2: about the case.

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Speaker 5: Two arguments will not work in that courtroom. One is

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Speaker 5: that this is all old classified information. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: if it's old or brand new. If it's still classified,

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Speaker 5: you violate the statute. The other argument is that everyone

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Speaker 5: does this, that as Abby said, everyone has diaries. Well,

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Speaker 5: that's not going to fly either in that courtroom. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you know he's going to try with just as Comy's

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Speaker 5: going to try and James is going to try to

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Speaker 5: bring up a vindictive prosecution claim and also a selective

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Speaker 5: prosecution so both of those.

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Speaker 2: Generally, courts do not go for those.

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Speaker 5: If you have a viable criminal case that comes out

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Speaker 5: of a grand jury, they tend not to want to

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Speaker 5: look at motivations. This indictment looks pretty serious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we got We got to figure out

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Speaker 3: this whole classified information thing and come up with a

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Speaker 3: category that actually means this would damage the country. And

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Speaker 3: if you start playing fast and loose with that, you

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Speaker 3: should be in trouble. But just the meeting, random notes

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Speaker 3: from a meeting that wouldn't mean anything to anybody, but

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Speaker 3: they're classified whatever. Yeah, and even they were classified, but

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Speaker 3: now everybody knows it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of the reasons one of the many reasons I'm

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Speaker 3: bothered by this whole thing. Is U I heard David

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Speaker 3: Petraeus on a podcast yet today he was actually doing

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Speaker 3: the Telegraph podcast that I listened to about the war

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Speaker 3: in Ukraine. David Petraeus, he was the guy in charge

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Speaker 3: of our entire war on terror in the Middle East

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Speaker 3: for star General.

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Speaker 2: He's brilliant.

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Speaker 3: I was listening to him on there and thinking the

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Speaker 3: fact that he got caught with classified information he was

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Speaker 3: sharing with his mistress again one of these stories that

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Speaker 3: technically was true. But did it do any damage to

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Speaker 3: national security? I don't think that it did, and he

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Speaker 3: can't be part of our government anymore.

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Speaker 2: Is one of our most brilliant warriors out there. So

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Speaker 2: here's the probable Bolton defense. It's not well, the stuff

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Speaker 2: Turtley mentioned might be part of it, and he had

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Speaker 2: it hidden his mustache. But that's a pretty good defense.

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Speaker 2: That's no no, That is no no. What was I

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Speaker 2: gonna say? Ah? And I don't know with certainty that

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Speaker 2: there aren't countervailing facts that make this meaningless. Until you

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Speaker 2: know the facts, you don't know the truth anyway, mister Bolton.

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Speaker 2: Allegation is that Bolton wrote diary entries that included classified information,

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Speaker 2: then transmitted those on eight occasions to Individual one and

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Speaker 2: Individual two, who are his wife and daughter. Neither had

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Speaker 2: clearance to handle classified material, although the indictment makes no

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Speaker 2: claim that they did mishandle it in any way, They

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Speaker 2: just read it and thought, oh, interesting. Mister Bolton is

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Speaker 2: likely to claim that he had every right to keep

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Speaker 2: a diary based on his memory to write a book

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter's NSC Advisors a big new Brazinski wrote extensive

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Speaker 2: journal entries that informed his memoir back in the day.

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Speaker 2: The indictment makes much of the fact that the information

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Speaker 2: mister Bolton is accused of mishandling did not appear in

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Speaker 2: his book after his draft was reviewed by the White House.

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Speaker 2: But the review process exists to safeguard national secrets, and

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Speaker 2: mister Bolton subjected himself to it. Prosecutors will have to

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Speaker 2: prove mister Bolton knew his diary notes contained national secrets

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Speaker 2: rather than being recollections that would be subject to review

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Speaker 2: before becoming public. Who knew that those were two different things?

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Speaker 2: And the prosecutors also make much of the detail that

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Speaker 2: one of mister Bolton's accounts was hacked by Iran, but

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Speaker 2: mister Bolton disclosed that to the FBI and worked closely

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Speaker 2: with the bureaus that sought to counter the Iranian efforts

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Speaker 2: Bob bah Bah. So he says, look, everything you're talking

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Speaker 2: about was reviewed by the White House before my book

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Speaker 2: was published, and I told the FBI the minute I've

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Speaker 2: Journal editorial board says, this all stinks of what Joseph

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Speaker 2: Stalin's head of Secret Police once said, You show me

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Speaker 2: the man, and I'll show you the crime.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Iranian hack angle of it is pretty interesting.

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Speaker 3: So the Iranian hack angle of this story of the

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Speaker 3: John Bolton indictment from MSNBC this morning.

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Speaker 6: The FBI is known about this for a long time,

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Speaker 6: and that's true. This arose in the Biden administration, and

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Speaker 6: but what seems to be the case is that they

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Speaker 6: did not know the extent of what was in at

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Speaker 6: least one of his email accounts until they discovered that

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Speaker 6: Iran they discovered the material that Iran had hacked through

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Speaker 6: a US intelligence penetration of Iran. That's according to my reporting.

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Speaker 6: And that's one of the reasons this case is didn't

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Speaker 3: We've got our two hour retrospective on Ace Freeley, the

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Speaker 7: His founding member and lead guitarist, Ace Freeley has died.

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Speaker 8: Regime change may or may not be on the table,

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Speaker 3: We are certainly looking at land now because we've got

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Speaker 9: Nuclear capable B fifty two heavy bombers flew for hours

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Speaker 9: Already launched at least five deadly air strikes on what

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Speaker 3: That's the bottom line. B fifty two bombers capable of

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Speaker 2: Oh, they can be drug boats going fishing. It's my

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Speaker 3: I do enjoy a good halibit in between moving fentnyl.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Well, this is interesting. Admiral Alvin Holsey of

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Speaker 3: This is not legally justified under the laws of the

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Speaker 2: I don't want any part of this. I'm out. Well,

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Speaker 2: I have to see what the fallout is from that.

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Speaker 3: Well, since since a law you know, the MAGA thing

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Speaker 2: First, I can actually I can uh, and I want

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Speaker 2: But the people are ready for combat, ready for battle, Vaudmaduro.

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Speaker 3: You know, the US Marines are gonna wipe the beach

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Speaker 2: You lose people.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember how many, it was, dozens hundred to

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Speaker 3: regime change?

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Speaker 2: Right? Right? So here's here's the basic argument. And it's funny.

437
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Speaker 2: Even when I was in college being told that this

438
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Speaker 2: sort of thing was ugly, I didn't buy it. Exactly.

439
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Speaker 2: During the you know, the especially the post WW two

440
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Speaker 2: era through you know, I don't know, the nineties, the

441
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Speaker 2: US supported some fairly loathsome regimes in Central and South America,

442
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Speaker 2: and that earned us a bunch of resentments on the quarters.

443
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Speaker 3: The justification being we wanted a dictator that was friendly

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Speaker 3: to us as opposed to communists.

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Speaker 2: Usually that was my next sentence. Oh yeah, the reason

446
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Speaker 2: you support a loathsome regime is that a more loathsome

447
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Speaker 2: regime loyal to the Soviet Union is going to spread

448
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: the tentacles of Soviet control throughout your neighborhood. And you

449
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: can't have that. And if the only other alternative is

450
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Speaker 2: a bolvar or whatever or was his face in Cuba,

451
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Speaker 2: that that castro got rid of Simosa. Anyway, if that's

452
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Speaker 2: your only choice, that's who you back. And it is

453
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Speaker 2: ugly and terrible and terrible things are done. But you

454
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Speaker 2: could make the argument in Venezuela. So you got Venezuela,

455
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Speaker 2: which is if you don't know the geography, I mean,

456
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Speaker 2: it's on the northeast end top of South America. It's

457
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Speaker 2: a big, beautiful country with oil wealth and and you know,

458
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Speaker 2: incredible real estate and the rest of it that's been

459
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Speaker 2: taken over by force by a quasi communist goon who

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Speaker 2: steals power and fakes elections, which is really kind of

461
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Speaker 2: the Venezuelan people's business until it starts really affecting the

462
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Speaker 2: United States in negative ways, and and the question becomes,

463
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Speaker 2: and different people have different answers for this. If a

464
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Speaker 2: quasi communist bus driver can take Venezuela by force. Why

465
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: can't the superpower next door because it's not our country. Yeah,

466
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Speaker 2: but if it reflects our interests, what's the point of

467
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Speaker 2: being a superpower if you can't boot out the dictator

468
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Speaker 2: and install a great, legitimate regime. That's the argument, of course.

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Speaker 2: The counter argument is, yeah, you create a vacuum for

470
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Speaker 2: power and then step in and you're gonna run the place,

471
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Speaker 2: are you. You're gonna police the place, You're gonna take

472
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Speaker 2: care of trendy Iragua and the rest of it. You know,

473
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Speaker 2: Pandora's box is open. But the argument could be made

474
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Speaker 2: Meduro must go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you boot out Maduro and then there are three

476
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Speaker 3: years of civil war between rival factions that makes life

477
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Speaker 3: pretty miserable.

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Speaker 2: There could be you know, on the promising end, there

479
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: is a robust and very legit democratic resistance to Maduro

480
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Speaker 2: that just wants to run a pretty US style democracy.

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Speaker 2: But you know, that sort of thing has been claimed

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Speaker 2: more than once.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we're hoping in Iraq and a bunch

484
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Speaker 3: of different places. I'm not necessarily against this, just I

485
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Speaker 3: have a memory of a woman and I don't remember

486
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Speaker 3: what country she was from. She's from one of your

487
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Speaker 3: South American countries, Central American countries that we got involved

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Speaker 3: with back in the day. She was young, so it

489
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Speaker 3: had to be before her time. But anyway, she's standing

490
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Speaker 3: in my kitchen. This was at a party in my house.

491
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Speaker 3: That's how long ago it was. There was a party

492
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Speaker 3: at my house. Trust me, it wasn't my idea, but

493
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Speaker 3: this woman was screaming at me at the top of

494
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Speaker 3: her lungs, so passionately angry because I'd said something about, well,

495
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Speaker 3: you know, we were trying to keep the communists.

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Speaker 2: Out or something like that, and it was just.

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Speaker 3: Her view of it growing up with her parents telling

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Speaker 3: her this, I suppose was we, you know, caused their

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Speaker 3: country to be crappy by meddling in their elections.

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Speaker 2: She might be right.

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Speaker 3: She might be right, because things don't always turn out

502
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Speaker 3: the way you want right, and sometimes the communist leaning

503
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Speaker 3: people are just h'm the leftists, and the power strike,

504
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: the foreign policy power structure in the US perceives that

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Speaker 3: they would be likely to go for Soviet affiliation and influence,

506
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Speaker 3: and so we got to be safe and keep them

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Speaker 3: out of power, when really it would have been fine.

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Speaker 2: They're just kind of left these and we should have

509
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Speaker 2: left it alone.

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Speaker 3: This stuff is hard, you know, when you're talking about

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Speaker 3: south of the border countries during baseball season with the

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Speaker 3: Dodgers in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: How can we not hear this?

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Speaker 8: And who do you think is the richest person in

515
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Speaker 8: Venezuela the daughter of Hugo Chops?

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Speaker 2: Hello? Anyway? Oh and two? There you go. Yeah, yeah,

517
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Speaker 2: it makes you stop and think, Ben, God bless you.

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Speaker 3: And I wish when I was watching the Dodgers game

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Speaker 3: last night, during a little lull of the action, they

520
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Speaker 3: had worked in some geopolitical And why did Trump bomb

521
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: those drug cartel people in the boat? They need to

522
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Speaker 3: keep ventlel out of the United States. Anyway, two strikes

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Speaker 3: the better out in a.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful country with oil riches. Be condemned to poverty forever, communism,

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Speaker 2: that's how anyway? Oh and two? Yeah, anyway, oh and two?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of and then, well, well then we'll get back

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Speaker 2: to the Venezuela and the coming invasion. Wait what that

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Speaker 2: It's good to be right, and the Marines should be easily.

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Speaker 2: It should be easy for the Marines to establish a

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Speaker 2: beachhead there in Venezuela. Shohe Otani loosening up may come

557
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Speaker 2: in in the seventh inning. Yeah, the Marines are forty

558
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Speaker 2: nine point favorites in that matchup. But again, it would

559
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Speaker 2: not be without bloodshed and horror and complic problems and

560
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Speaker 2: the rest of it. Probably it is entirely possible, knowing

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Speaker 2: Trump's modus operandi, that what he really wants is for

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Speaker 2: Maduro to say to the cartels because like in mex couh,

563
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Speaker 2: the cartels are giant corporations. They have the year of

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Speaker 2: the government. If they pick up the phone and say

565
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Speaker 2: I need to talk to the president, the president calls

566
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Speaker 2: them back. Uh. What Trump is looking for is Maduro

567
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: to tell them, hey, you do anything you want with

568
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Speaker 2: your drugs, but don't make them traceable to Venezuela or

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Speaker 2: or lay low for six months. That is the goal. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So we'll have to see how it plays out. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: oh and two. Anyway, oh and two, anyway. Oh and two,

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Speaker 2: thank you Bence, Miss Vincecully.

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Speaker 3: I would listen to the Dodger game last night on

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Speaker 3: the radio if he was calling it.

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for the Brewers, openly, hopingy proudly. I was too.

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Speaker 3: I was to you say, I tend to root for

577
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Speaker 3: the underdog. But now that it's three to zero, come on, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well I'm rooting for them all the more. And there's

579
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Speaker 3: a miracle comeback.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna slay the mighty Goliath like David of Old.

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Speaker 2: Probably not so.

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Speaker 3: We mentioned Barry Weise earlier running CBS now and we're

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Speaker 3: you got a bunch of stuff we can talk about.

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Speaker 3: I hope you can stick around anyway.

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Speaker 2: Oh and two Armstrong and finally, Kamala Harris claims some

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Speaker 2: most qualified presidential candidate ever. Wow. She was told this

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Speaker 2: by the author of the book Lies I Tell Drunk Chicks.

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Speaker 3: He's always the leaning on the Kamala's drunk thing. So

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Speaker 3: we mentioned Barry Wise, who runs CBS News. Now, you know,

594
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Speaker 3: she left the New York Times she thought they were

595
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Speaker 3: too woke, and she was right, and then she started

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Speaker 3: dollars for free press, and now she runs CBS. And

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Speaker 3: you know, people are wondering, well they.

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Speaker 2: Muzzle or what.

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Speaker 3: I never was worried about that. She's not the sort

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Speaker 3: of person that's going to be muzzled. Not a freaking

603
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Speaker 3: chance in my opinion. But anyway, she's there, and she's

604
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Speaker 3: already fired somebody. She fired this Claudium Maline, who ran

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Speaker 3: the division responsible for moral, ethical and legal implications at

606
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Speaker 3: CBS Programming. It's the first senior executive to leave since

607
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Speaker 3: Weiss arrived. And that person was seen to be part

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Speaker 3: of the whole CBS caters to the woke side of

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Speaker 2: Stinks. Yes, what is that? Well sounds awfully close to DEI.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's she exactly, I should say, because this is

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Speaker 3: a better description of what happened. They eliminated that position

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Speaker 3: because that shouldn't even be a thing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go. Right. Speaking of Barry Weiss,

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Speaker 2: as we mentioned briefly, I think it was Luella's a

616
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Speaker 2: little earlier activist LGBTQ plus minus ie two spirit over

617
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Speaker 2: the power of three activists haven't said a word about

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Speaker 2: Barry Weiss making lgb history. I'm just going with those

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Speaker 2: letters for the rest of my life. Uh at CBS

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Speaker 2: News being the head now of CBS News.

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Speaker 3: This isn't an obvious one, but it had escaped me,

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Speaker 3: of course, if she had been leading someone else that

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Speaker 3: they liked the first uh lbgpqick a plus person to

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Speaker 3: ever run the whatever.

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Speaker 2: Right, But not a word about because she's sent her left. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's away, she's not even Anybody who calls her a

627
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Speaker 2: conservative is inaccurate. She's all over the map, like a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are. You bring up an issue and

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Speaker 2: she'll tell you where she stands, and like all most

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Speaker 2: human beings is it's a little more complicated. Well, she

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Speaker 2: likes honest uh news coverage.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing I like about her the best, And

633
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Speaker 3: as long as that happens, I can live with whatever

634
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: your politics are, right right, They claim to love diversity,

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Speaker 3: an inclusion unless it is somebody of a moderately conservative

636
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Speaker 3: maybe bent.

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Speaker 2: And here's here's another one for you, with their hope

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00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: for finally Palestinian people having happy lives and getting rid

639
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: of Hamas. The ceasefire now, crowd is now the A

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00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: ceasefire isn't liberation. A ceasefire isn't Palestinian. It was made

641
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: without Palestinian voices. Israel is still committing a genocide. Blah

642
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: blah blah crowd. And it goes back to the freedom

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Speaker 2: living quote of the day. We wrapped up last the

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Speaker 2: first hour with Marxists. Just lie. The whole Dei thing

645
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 2: is a lie. It's not about diversity, it's about more

646
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Speaker 2: neo Marxists. We need more diversity. Look, there's some a

647
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Speaker 2: couple of black people. We'll have them on the board.

648
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Speaker 2: I guarantee you those two black people are far left progressives.

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Speaker 2: They use moral arguments to dress up getting more people

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Speaker 2: who think like them on board. Barry Weiss is the

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Speaker 2: wrong sort of lesbian. We had a great note from

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Speaker 2: this legislator in eastern Washington State who's Hispanic, who watched

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Speaker 2: the progressives in the state House in Washington bust up

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Speaker 2: her district because Republicans.

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Speaker 3: Were winning it.

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Speaker 2: They pretend they care about ethnic minorities. All they care

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Speaker 2: about is power. They are liars.

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Speaker 3: Different story in our waning seconds this hour. This is

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Speaker 3: interesting specifically because it's Columbus Week. You know, he came

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Speaker 3: here and discovered this big, giant empty land that was America.

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Speaker 2: They found a.

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Speaker 3: Four thousand, two hundred year old skull in an Indiana

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Speaker 3: riverbed this week, so that changes the dates for when

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Speaker 3: they think different people were in different parts of the

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Speaker 3: United States.

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Speaker 2: But there were people there.

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Speaker 3: Four thousand years ago, not four hundred years ago in

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Speaker 3: Columbus landed, but four thousand years ago in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: And since the land changed probably hundreds of times in

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Speaker 2: that time, the whole land declaration, is that what those

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Speaker 2: are called. Yeah, it's going to be like an hour

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Speaker 2: and a half long every time you start a meeting,

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Speaker 2: So settle in, everybody, get comfortable. Yeah, that's interesting stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to the Pacific Legal Foundation in just a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes about the blockbuster Supreme Court session underway

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Speaker 2: right now. Stay with us if you can't grab the podcast,