Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Warmley,
Speaker 1: joined as always by Mike Meyer. It is a couple
Speaker 1: of days before the All Star Break, a couple of
Speaker 1: days before the MLB.
Speaker 2: Draft for the home run derby. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: about that a bit later, before the actual All.
Speaker 1: Star Game and before we have a little respite from baseball,
Speaker 1: so we are.
Speaker 2: We were kind of joking before the show.
Speaker 1: It's not quite like senior itis of like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: almost out of here, but maybe a little bit of
Speaker 1: a shorter show here as there's just frankly less to
Speaker 1: look forward to next week because it's the fun exhibition
Speaker 1: stuff and also the very sad, very boring couple of
Speaker 1: days out of the year where there's no sports on,
Speaker 1: which is always not super fun. How you feeling heading
Speaker 1: into the All Star Break? I mean we're past the
Speaker 1: technical halfway point of the season, but kind of the
Speaker 1: unofficial halfway points still, least in terms of how a
Speaker 1: lot of people.
Speaker 2: Think about it. How are you feeling heading into the break?
Speaker 3: I'm feeling good. I'm looking for I always kind of
Speaker 3: like look forward to the All Star Game and the
Speaker 3: Horme Run Derby, not because I like them, but because
Speaker 3: I kind of like taking a few days off is
Speaker 3: such a marathon that I kind of like just kind
Speaker 3: of catching my breath in the middle of the season,
Speaker 3: especially as like you know, the football is like starting
Speaker 3: to creep into your mind, and baseball, like, you know,
Speaker 3: we're on month what April, May, June. We're on our
Speaker 3: fourth month here, and we still have a long way
Speaker 3: to go, and so it's like it's always a nice
Speaker 3: little break. Even if I'm not particularly fond of the
Speaker 3: All Star Game right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really really feels like the fifth month,
Speaker 1: because like March is kind of a marathon in itself
Speaker 1: in terms of fantasy baseball coverage and spring training and
Speaker 1: getting ready for the season.
Speaker 2: So fantasy draft, yeah, I'm totally yep drafts.
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. I'm a big fan of the
Speaker 1: Home Run Derby. It was always very fun for me.
Speaker 1: You have friends come over like that one was I
Speaker 1: never really cared about the All Star Game itself growing up,
Speaker 1: but the Home Run Derby it was like not like
Speaker 1: important to me, but like I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: It was it was a very fun night. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure how I feel about the kind of ever rules
Speaker 2: changes we have for this year. We'll talk about that
Speaker 2: later on in rounding the bases.
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Speaker 2: Let's jump right in here.
Speaker 1: The first topic you wanted to hit on this week
Speaker 1: Drew Thorpe and Tobias Myers kind of checking in, you know,
Speaker 1: and how they've been doing well.
Speaker 2: This is gonna tie.
Speaker 1: Into a listener question that I got, you know, from
Speaker 1: one of our regular listeners earlier this week, so we'll
Speaker 1: get to that kind of in the second half of this.
Speaker 1: But what was kind of your your angle with this,
Speaker 1: just kind of checking and seeing on the fact that
Speaker 1: they've been pitching well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so kind of wanted to talk about them a
Speaker 3: little bit for two different reasons. One, you know, Drew
Speaker 3: Thorpe is a pretty hyped prospect and you know, the
Speaker 3: only drawback to him is that he's on the White Sox.
Speaker 3: He's on just the worst team in the world. And
Speaker 3: Tobias Myers not necessarily as much like Pedigree. I actually
Speaker 3: one of the shows you missed. I remember it was
Speaker 3: like when he was first getting called up, and I
Speaker 3: actually joked with whoever was on at the time. I
Speaker 3: think it may have been Tuma. I can't remember if
Speaker 3: it was Tuma or Kelly, but it was one of
Speaker 3: those two. And when we were picking their two star
Speaker 3: pitcher for the week, I was like, Tobias Myers is
Speaker 3: available if you want it, if you want to take him,
Speaker 3: like for worm, just like expecting him to come up
Speaker 3: and struggle because he doesn't have the most sterling record
Speaker 3: in the miners, but I have sense picked him up
Speaker 3: and dropped him like four or five times, especially because
Speaker 3: he's had a couple two start weeks in there and
Speaker 3: he's quietly pitched pretty well, like not dominant, but like
Speaker 3: pretty solid numbers, and I'm just going to kind of
Speaker 3: get your opinion and see if if you have any
Speaker 3: interest the rest of season. And then Drew Thorpe been
Speaker 3: a little up and down, not a ton of strikeouts,
Speaker 3: but also just like looks like a major league pitcher
Speaker 3: at twenty three years old, not on the best team,
Speaker 3: expected numbers like not as good. But he's another person
Speaker 3: I picked up recently in a league where I had
Speaker 3: a bunch of pitching injuries, and I'm just kind of
Speaker 3: streaming him for now. And it happens to be a
Speaker 3: league where there's there's some keeper aspects there, and so
Speaker 3: maybe we'll see how the second half goes. Maybe you know,
Speaker 3: he's a young keeper pitcher I can have on my team.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of Thorpe who I'll start with at,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of like a keeper or a
Speaker 1: dynasty format more obviously given the prospect pedigree he was
Speaker 1: thirty seventh on MLB pipeline.
Speaker 2: Coming into this season, you know, a good picture.
Speaker 1: It's I'm really curious to see what's gonna happen with
Speaker 1: the strikeouts, because he was a strikeout pitcher in you know,
Speaker 1: the Miners. He led the miners in strikeouts in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, and he is not doing the same thing
Speaker 1: so far the Biders, and I know to step up
Speaker 1: in competition, but only nineteen strikeouts in thirty two and
Speaker 1: two thirds innings. It's pretty stark, especially in fantasy, like
Speaker 1: even setting aside, you know what he's doing for the
Speaker 1: White Sox like that's kind of a tough pill to swallow.
Speaker 1: Ev as a fantasy manager, you know, he's He's only
Speaker 1: started six games three poin fifty eight ERA one.
Speaker 2: Or four way up. Like, I think he's a good pitcher.
Speaker 1: The situation is not going to get better this year
Speaker 1: for sure, and I think my interest in him is
Speaker 1: solely determined upon my confidence in whether or not the
Speaker 1: strikeouts will come. Because I know he has a three
Speaker 1: to one record through six starts. I don't expect him
Speaker 1: to win a lot of games with Chicago, obviously, especially
Speaker 1: if they sell off even more, you know, as we
Speaker 1: get to the trade deadline. I think he'll be He'll
Speaker 1: give you a DC ERA and you know, ratios, and
Speaker 1: he'll give it a decent whip, but without strikeouts and with
Speaker 1: what I expect to be without wins, I think it's tough.
Speaker 2: The listener question that I.
Speaker 1: Alluded to was if I was on team Drew Thorpe
Speaker 1: or team Christian Scott. I'm curious your opinion on that
Speaker 1: as well. Like personally, I would say Scott, I know
Speaker 1: he hasn't lit the world on fire. His ERA is
Speaker 1: like a half front higher than Thorpe's, his whips about
Speaker 1: the same. He's also not even striking out a batter
Speaker 1: per inning. I was really one over about Christian Scott
Speaker 1: from our conversation with Tuma earlier in the season on
Speaker 1: the show, I was on with him, so I picked
Speaker 1: him up in a lot of places, and I've been
Speaker 1: holding on to him even through getting sent back.
Speaker 2: Out of the minors. I don't know what his role
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 1: Rotation is even going to be in the second half,
Speaker 1: but just in terms of like if they're both up
Speaker 1: in the big leagues and starting, I prefer Christian Scott
Speaker 1: to be on my roster for this season at least.
Speaker 2: He's a couple of years older than Thorpe as well.
Speaker 1: Before we get to Myers, I'm curious what you think
Speaker 1: about that comparison between Thorpe and Scott.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if we're talking like dynasty or long term,
Speaker 3: I think it's a different question. I think this year
Speaker 3: it's it's Christian Scott, no brainer, as long as he
Speaker 3: stays up. And like you said, you know, Tuma is
Speaker 3: someone who's really bullish on christ and Scott, and I've
Speaker 3: known Tuma long enough to know that, Like, if he's
Speaker 3: bullish on a prospect, I need to pay attention. Sometimes
Speaker 3: he's a little early on prospects, but like over time,
Speaker 3: his takes are usually like kind of spot on, he
Speaker 3: knows what he's talking about. With a lot of these
Speaker 3: up and comers, even someone like Mackenzie Gore who was
Speaker 3: kind of like up and down, he was bullish on
Speaker 3: him for a long time, even when he was like struggling,
Speaker 3: and now we've kind of seen him turn the corner,
Speaker 3: even though it's not as consistent as we want it
Speaker 3: to be. A real quick note on the Thorpe strikeouts,
Speaker 3: I do think you're going to see some improvement there
Speaker 3: because it's kind of just been like two starts that
Speaker 3: are that are dragging that down. Because when he first
Speaker 3: when it first came up, he went five innings, four strikeouts,
Speaker 3: and then his second start he kind of got lit
Speaker 3: up three and the third seven earn runs, zero strikeouts,
Speaker 3: and then after that it was like six innings, five strikeouts,
Speaker 3: six innings, four strikeouts, six innings six and third five
Speaker 3: strike outs. And then this last start, which a good
Speaker 3: one quality start, six innings, turn runs, but only one strikeout,
Speaker 3: and so almost like on his other starts, it's almost
Speaker 3: a strike up ranning. It's really just those two starts
Speaker 3: kind of dragging it down. And so I think as
Speaker 3: he adjusts. You'll see that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a good point.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is important to remember we're talking about
Speaker 1: a small samples syze, right, So on the one hand,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, one out of every three starts, he's
Speaker 1: not striking anybody out. But on the other hand, it's
Speaker 1: been six starts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do I do like Christian Scott more
Speaker 3: than him, especially if you look at just kind of
Speaker 3: like the last year of Christian Scott, like you see,
Speaker 3: like he made it up to hig A dominated, he
Speaker 3: made it up to Double A dominated, he made it
Speaker 3: up to Triple A dominated, and so now he's kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, he's still only he's twenty five years old,
Speaker 3: but like he he hasn't been a professional pitcher like
Speaker 3: in in you know, in professional baseball, like you know,
Speaker 3: he's someone who hasn't been in the major in the
Speaker 3: minor leagues for a long time, and so he's still
Speaker 3: like this is his first taste in the majors, and
Speaker 3: he's kind of like not been given the most consistent
Speaker 3: role with the Mets, where they could have probably been
Speaker 3: a little bit better with how they promoted him. And
Speaker 3: so I think you'll see him kind of write the
Speaker 3: ship as long as they continue to give him consistent opportunities.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much because he has not had as
Speaker 1: many professional innings as Thorpe, even though Thorpe is younger,
Speaker 1: like Christian Scott is somebody who I don't I believe
Speaker 1: he has not topped ninety innings in the season.
Speaker 2: Even including like going into the minors.
Speaker 1: I might be misremembering that, whereas Drew Thorpe through I
Speaker 1: think it was like one hundred and forty innings last year,
Speaker 1: you know, at the minor league level, so it's different.
Speaker 1: But like you know, even with the White Sox being
Speaker 1: young and having no incentive to like kind of push
Speaker 1: their young arms further than I need to go, like,
Speaker 1: you would think there's plenty of runway here for Drew
Speaker 1: Thorpe this season where and also who else is going
Speaker 1: to be in that rotation, you know, especially if like
Speaker 1: Krische is pitching less or traded. So you know, I
Speaker 1: think Thorpe likely has the more secure role based on
Speaker 1: what we've seen to date. I would love to see
Speaker 1: them both have secure roles in the second half and
Speaker 1: kind of see what happens there, like I do. I do,
Speaker 1: like Christian Scott a slight bit better for this season,
Speaker 1: but I think it's a good It's a good question
Speaker 1: to be asked, and to the point of the question
Speaker 1: being asked on MLB pipelines like updated Top one hundred,
Speaker 1: Drew Thorpe thirty seventh prospect in baseball, Christian Scott thirty eighth,
Speaker 1: So that's just one ranking, but literally back to back.
Speaker 2: In that one.
Speaker 3: So I think Dynasty, I want Thorpe over over Christian Scott.
Speaker 2: Personally, I agree Dynasty. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a massive gap, but I definitely
Speaker 1: I mean, he's two years younger. Let alone, you know
Speaker 1: the track record, and you know the White Sox aren't
Speaker 1: going to be rubbish forever at least we think as
Speaker 1: far as Myers goes like obviously doesn't quite have the
Speaker 1: same like, you know, level of pedigree. He's drafted back
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen by by Baltimore Orioles, so he's been
Speaker 1: kind of like a miner's name that I've been like
Speaker 1: aware of for a while, never particularly like excited about.
Speaker 1: He's got a three thirteen ERA this season, though at
Speaker 1: sixty two strikeouts and seventy two innings, also under a
Speaker 1: strike at an inning.
Speaker 2: His whip is.
Speaker 1: One point one three six and three record, you know,
Speaker 1: on a better team, better opportunity for wins than the
Speaker 1: White Sox, which could be said of anybody on any
Speaker 1: team other than the White Sox.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like, like I don't he's not something that
Speaker 2: I really roster in a lot of places.
Speaker 1: Like he's somebody that I have been hesitant to be
Speaker 1: like gung ho about and just have been beaten to
Speaker 1: the punch by other people who were kind of willing
Speaker 1: to make that pick up earlier and say they think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's legit. He's obviously coming off just two
Speaker 1: days ago a terrific start, you know, eight innings, four hits,
Speaker 1: no runs, six strikeouts. That was against the Pirates. I
Speaker 1: believe that that was the best start of the season.
Speaker 1: Right I'm looking at this game, I'm like, not forgetting it.
Speaker 3: I would imagine again, I would imagine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so like seemingly getting better as the season
Speaker 1: has gone on, obviously, right, like, particularly in June was
Speaker 1: his best month. And now you know he gave a
Speaker 1: four and runs and his other start in July, but
Speaker 1: one of the two July starts very strong. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's certainly worth like rostering. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I was kind of beating to the punch
Speaker 1: in a lot of areas, and I don't have him rostered.
Speaker 2: He's somebody that like I wouldn't be like.
Speaker 1: Going out to like aggressively trade for or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up the farm to go at him
Speaker 1: and think he's some future ace or anything. But like
Speaker 1: I think he's a perfectly cromulent fantasy starting fish.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're working that word into your vocabulary. And
Speaker 3: now it looks like he had one other star where
Speaker 3: he went eight innings, one hit, three walks by strikeouts,
Speaker 3: like another eight inning game it was against takers, and
Speaker 3: his worst start recently was at course Field, which you
Speaker 3: can kind of give him a pass for that.
Speaker 2: Good point.
Speaker 3: I think, I agree. I don't think he's someone like that.
Speaker 3: You have him, yeah, you don't think you like need
Speaker 3: to roster him rest of season. But he's someone who
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of like streaming and riding for a
Speaker 3: little while. Like even I just picked him up and
Speaker 3: again in another league where I need pitching volume, and
Speaker 3: I wanted him for a two start week and a
Speaker 3: lot of those times, I'm just turning that roster spot.
Speaker 3: This time, I picked him up for the two start week,
Speaker 3: and then I just moved him to my bench for
Speaker 3: a week, Like I didn't want to drop him, but
Speaker 3: let me just let me just leave him on the mention.
Speaker 3: Of course I missed, you know, one of his best
Speaker 3: starts ever, I missed the starting inspireds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's kind of a fine approach to
Speaker 1: him as of right now. We'll see what happens in
Speaker 1: the second half. Let's get to our next topic here.
Speaker 1: It's a quick one. Just Zach Wheeler, you know, came
Speaker 1: out of the game after excuse me, five innings and
Speaker 1: seventy something pitch is thrown. So I wasn't watching the game,
Speaker 1: but I have him in like my kind of most
Speaker 1: important Dynasty League, So I was keeping an eye on
Speaker 1: the stats, and I was wondering why he was taken
Speaker 1: out of the game, and was obviously nervous about an injury,
Speaker 1: and then saw after the game that, yeah, he had
Speaker 1: back tightness. They did do an MRI, came back negative.
Speaker 1: They weren't sure at first if he was even going
Speaker 1: to miss a start, but then they did determine yesterday
Speaker 1: that he would not make his start, so he's no
Speaker 1: longer a two star pitcher this week, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: rest huntil after the All Star break. So again, the
Speaker 1: MRI did come back negative, which is obviously a good sign.
Speaker 1: They're not talking about it as like some severe issue.
Speaker 1: The All Star break is well timed for this. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna start off to second, you know,
Speaker 1: the second half after the All Star break with him
Speaker 1: atop the rotation, or if they maybe give him even
Speaker 1: a couple of extra days beyond that as they get.
Speaker 2: Into the turns of the rotation. So it remains to
Speaker 2: be seen.
Speaker 1: It's definitely something worth paying attention to because he was
Speaker 1: in that conversation last week as there's basically four true
Speaker 1: aces and he's.
Speaker 2: One of them.
Speaker 1: And so when a guy like that gets pulled from
Speaker 1: a game early and is missing a start, it's worth
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it doesn't I think the All Star game
Speaker 3: timing is is kind of key here. I think that
Speaker 3: probably played end of their decision just to give him
Speaker 3: a break, because like they're de facto putting them on
Speaker 3: the injured list without having to put him on the
Speaker 3: injured list by just you know, skipping a start, then
Speaker 3: you get the All Star break. Then, like you said,
Speaker 3: maybe you don't even start him right out of the gate.
Speaker 3: Maybe you you know, pitch him third, fourth, fifth, coming
Speaker 3: out of the gate. You've essentially given him, you know,
Speaker 3: a full two weeks off.
Speaker 1: This might be a tom question. I probably should know
Speaker 1: the answer if he was on. If they put him
Speaker 1: on like the IL would the All Star break, days
Speaker 1: they would count towards the number of days he has
Speaker 1: to stay on the IL.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I feel like if you didn't ask me this on air,
Speaker 3: I would know the answer. But since we're on air,
Speaker 3: I think it's just days in baseball, it's not games,
Speaker 3: So I think it's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's right.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know if the All Star Break was
Speaker 1: different because there's no games going on.
Speaker 3: I think it's just days.
Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't see why it would be.
Speaker 1: The reason, and I asked is to say, like, well,
Speaker 1: why not just put him on the IL then and
Speaker 1: get another player on the roster if he's not going
Speaker 1: to pitch for that number of days.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's good.
Speaker 3: It's a fair question. You have to ask them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just go ahead and call them up anyways,
Speaker 1: it's more just somebody to keep an eye on. He again,
Speaker 1: he is missing the start this weekend, so that's not nothing.
Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt me in my in my league with
Speaker 1: him where I had him as a two star pitcher.
Speaker 2: But hopefully it's nothing.
Speaker 1: And we get to next weekend and he's looking like
Speaker 1: the Ace that we know.
Speaker 2: He can be. All right.
Speaker 1: Next topic here, speaking of aces, I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you did we mess up not including Justin Steele in
Speaker 1: last week's conversation about Aces? For those who might have
Speaker 1: missed last week's episode, we kind of checked in on
Speaker 1: who are the actual fantasy aces, not the top twelve
Speaker 1: guys that are technically sp ones, but who are the
Speaker 1: true fantasy aces? And unsurprisingly, perhaps we lean there's just
Speaker 1: four of them, and we threw out a couple of names,
Speaker 1: and obviously the four Corbyn Burns, Zach Wheeler, Tarik Skuball
Speaker 1: and Tyler Glass Now and we threw out a couple
Speaker 1: of names as just quick like who could be in
Speaker 1: this category in the second half the season, We talked
Speaker 1: about Garrett Cole obviously health permitting, you know, Paul Skean's innings,
Speaker 1: permitting has as good a case as anybody right now,
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if maybe we should have been talking
Speaker 1: about Justin Steele as well. He has been fantastic ever
Speaker 1: since when he came back. So you know, he made
Speaker 1: it start on March twenty eighth, then he was on
Speaker 1: il till May sixth, so.
Speaker 2: We missed all of April.
Speaker 1: In those first four starts, he went four and two
Speaker 1: thirds only give up, you know, give up zero runs,
Speaker 1: but didn't complete five innings. He went four innings, give
Speaker 1: up six runs, five and two thirds gave up four runs,
Speaker 1: six and a third gave up five runs. Since then,
Speaker 1: so since May twenty seventh, which was his next start,
Speaker 1: after those first four back where he was really iffy,
Speaker 1: he has been fantastic. He's made nine starts in that stretch,
Speaker 1: sixty one innings, fifty eight strikeouts.
Speaker 2: A one forty eight er.
Speaker 1: He's just like not giving up runs and it's been consistent.
Speaker 1: It's not carried by just a couple of good outings.
Speaker 1: He has not given up more than three earned runs
Speaker 1: in any of those starts. Every one of those except
Speaker 1: for one, has been a quality start, and the one
Speaker 1: that wasn't a quality start, he only gave up one
Speaker 1: run in five innings.
Speaker 2: He had you know, the complete game.
Speaker 1: His last time out, he just shut down the Orioles
Speaker 1: in Baltimore over seven innings. And you know, the strikeouts
Speaker 1: are less than a strike up per inning, but not
Speaker 1: by a whole lot, you know, in that stretch, and
Speaker 1: even including his tough stretch early on, his ERA is
Speaker 1: two to seventy one. You know, his whip is zero
Speaker 1: point nine to five. Again, he's just under a strikeout
Speaker 1: per inning. And I saw a note and I should
Speaker 1: have written it down, and I didn't. I saw a
Speaker 1: note from somebody on Twitter just yesterday that in the
Speaker 1: last two years, meaning like since July twelve, twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: so exactly the last two years, he has the lowes
Speaker 1: CRA of anybody in baseball by like a decent amount.
Speaker 2: So I just think he's been really good.
Speaker 1: And I know the strikeouts aren't that upper echelonn elite level,
Speaker 1: but I think they're good enough that if you're pairing
Speaker 1: it with ratios like this, and you know, durability like this,
Speaker 1: like the innings pitched he's giving, you know, game in
Speaker 1: and game out.
Speaker 2: I don't know where he should be ranked.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's in that you know, Mount rushmore
Speaker 1: of pitchers right now and that clear top four, But
Speaker 1: I think I think we might have made a mistake
Speaker 1: not mentioning him at least as somebody who was pitching really,
Speaker 1: really well and could be an ace in the second
Speaker 1: half of the season.
Speaker 3: Well, first off, I never make mistakes, So how dare
Speaker 3: you suggest even the possibility that I made a mistake
Speaker 3: last week? Do you know the best thing about Justin.
Speaker 2: Steel that he's a Fantasy pros fan.
Speaker 3: Fantasy Pro subscriber, that's right, subscriber. Yes, yeah, Welsh got
Speaker 3: to meet him out, We got to hook him up.
Speaker 1: We got to hook him up with a free subscription.
Speaker 1: There there's no and he that a guy like him
Speaker 1: should be paying.
Speaker 3: He's been doing even during the season. He's been doing
Speaker 3: like late night mock drafts with Debro too. Like I
Speaker 3: forget who who they're talking to, but they're doing like
Speaker 3: video calls and mock draft and like doing or maybe
Speaker 3: it's not even mock draft.
Speaker 2: Debro is his guy.
Speaker 1: That's his his favorite of the group here, which I
Speaker 1: don't take personally.
Speaker 3: There's got to be one out there.
Speaker 1: When Welch was telling us that that Justin Steele is
Speaker 1: this big fantasy for his fantas subscriber, I didn't expect
Speaker 1: because he was like and he is one guy who's
Speaker 1: his favorite. I didn't expect it to me, but I
Speaker 1: was hoping it was because my like, longtime best friend
Speaker 1: in the whole world is a massive, diehard Cubs fan,
Speaker 1: Like I was with him for Game seven, watched him cry,
Speaker 1: and it would have been so cool if I could
Speaker 1: tell him that the best picture on his favorite team
Speaker 1: is a fan of me who is not a Cubs fan.
Speaker 1: But sadly it was Debro, which is a lot more
Speaker 1: understandable than if it was me.
Speaker 2: But yes, that is the best thing about Justin Steele.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Justin Steele.
Speaker 1: Definitely, we're big fans of his because he's a fan
Speaker 1: of ours, so we appreciate it. But to the question,
Speaker 1: I mean, where are you ranking him rest of season, like,
Speaker 1: and do you think he belongs not in the conversation
Speaker 1: of the true aces, but of the guys who could
Speaker 1: maybe pick pitch something close to a true race, a
Speaker 1: facsimile of a true race in the second half of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll pull up my rankings to see where I'm
Speaker 3: going to put him. I think the only real difference
Speaker 3: between him and like some of those other guys is
Speaker 3: he he doesn't have like that dominant fastball, like when
Speaker 3: you think of like a Paul Skins, or you think
Speaker 3: of like a Zach Wheeler, or even like our Corbyn Burns.
Speaker 3: He doesn't have quite that fastball. He's more of like
Speaker 3: an old not like old school, old school, but like
Speaker 3: he's more of like a pitcher than a thrower. But
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of value in that. And
Speaker 3: right now I have him like in the teens, I
Speaker 3: probably need to move him up. I'll move him up
Speaker 3: right now. I'll put him at like a maybe I'll
Speaker 3: put him at ten SP ten rest of the rest
Speaker 3: of the year, maybe behind some guys Like I have
Speaker 3: him neck and neck with Dylan Ce's. I think he's
Speaker 3: a better pitcher than Dylan SE's, but Dylan SE's is
Speaker 3: probably gonna get a more strikeout. But I think you
Speaker 3: can make the argument that he's even even more valuable
Speaker 3: in fantasy than until it ceased. But yeah, I'm a
Speaker 3: big fan of his. You know, he's good metrics, he
Speaker 3: doesn't have that same fastball, doesn't have the same exact
Speaker 3: swing and miss stuff. But he's also now once he's healthy,
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like he's ever going to really hurt
Speaker 3: you either, Like he's just an auto star you're gonna
Speaker 3: go out there. I don't want to say like a
Speaker 3: late bloomer because he was twenty five when he when
Speaker 3: he kind of like first came up and was solid
Speaker 3: and then it took a year or two and then
Speaker 3: he kind of broke out. But I mean he did
Speaker 3: spend eight years in the minor leagues. Like he he
Speaker 3: went into the miners an eighteen year old and then
Speaker 3: didn't debut until, you know, he was twenty five, and
Speaker 3: so he spent a long time in there.
Speaker 2: Not that there's like an twenty nine only twenty nine now.
Speaker 1: He just turned twenty nine yesterday, so it's not like
Speaker 1: he's you know, in his thirties yet or anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe like a later bloomer than like an elite prospect
Speaker 1: or something. But yeah, no, I'm a huge chance of
Speaker 1: steel and I'd be really happy if I had him
Speaker 1: on my team's and he's somebody that I would I
Speaker 1: would classify as like a bye high, Like if somebody
Speaker 1: has him and thinks that they're selling high.
Speaker 2: I'll buy. I mean, I'm not going to overpay.
Speaker 1: But I'd spend onne on Justin Steele. I think he's
Speaker 1: going to be really good in the second half of
Speaker 1: the season, and I have him in a couple of spots.
Speaker 2: I wish I had him in more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have him in that auction league that we
Speaker 3: always refer back to. I drafted him last year before
Speaker 3: you know the Uber breakout for a dollar, which was
Speaker 3: really cheap, and so I was able to then keep
Speaker 3: him this year for a dollar, and then going into
Speaker 3: next year, I'm we'd have to decide, like, don't want
Speaker 3: to keep him one more year at a dollar and
Speaker 3: then cut him, lose or extend him for a year
Speaker 3: which would only be like six bucks, and then two years,
Speaker 3: which which really would be three years, would be ten bucks.
Speaker 3: But I mean, even like I had pretty good value.
Speaker 1: I had to decide this last off season if I
Speaker 1: was going to keep Justin Steele with I think it
Speaker 1: was like the twentieth round pick or something or year
Speaker 1: per as with the final pick in the draft, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I gotta go upside with Yuri
Speaker 1: and I'll have him for his whole career and you know,
Speaker 1: such value, and I wish I do have Steel in
Speaker 1: that league. I did draft him again, but not at
Speaker 1: the same great value.
Speaker 3: So I don't like the draft pick keeper value. I
Speaker 3: don't like that setup.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 3: I don't know, It's just like I feel like it
Speaker 3: makes it for like a really messy draft. I'd much
Speaker 3: rather just have like dollar amounts and then everyone you know,
Speaker 3: like it is.
Speaker 1: That league is great because I have because I have
Speaker 1: been very good with some of these prospects. I have
Speaker 1: an extremely cheap gunner Henderson, He's like he's like the
Speaker 1: twenty seventh rounder. Bobby wit Junior is like a twenty
Speaker 1: fifth rounder, Raphael Devers is like a twenty third rounder.
Speaker 1: Juan Soto is like a twenty fourth rounder.
Speaker 3: Rounds work? How do they go up? Like, what's what's
Speaker 3: the penalty for going forward?
Speaker 2: It goes up one round every year.
Speaker 1: Get all those guys I got when they were But
Speaker 1: you only keep It's not like you keep like twelve
Speaker 1: players or anything.
Speaker 2: You just keep five.
Speaker 1: So I have I have four mega elite keepers. And
Speaker 1: then also Uri Perez, I will not be keeping him
Speaker 1: next year. Maybe I'll keep steal even at whatever whatever
Speaker 1: around I got him in this year. All right, let's
Speaker 1: talk about the All Star Game. It was announced earlier
Speaker 1: today that Paul Skeens will be starting as a rookie
Speaker 1: who's made you know, not that many starts as.
Speaker 3: A rookie with an innings limit, Like it's gonna fire
Speaker 3: a couple off in the All Star Game.
Speaker 2: He's the most fun pitcher to watch in baseball right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's must see TV.
Speaker 1: I think it's very smart by Major League Baseball to
Speaker 1: do this. I think it will actually bring in fans
Speaker 1: who are, like, I want to see Paul Skeans go
Speaker 1: up against the example everybody's using is like Gunner Henderson,
Speaker 1: Juan Soto, Aaron Judge. It would not surprise me if
Speaker 1: that is the starting you know, the first three in
Speaker 1: the American League lineup.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that sounds super fun to me. Is watching
Speaker 2: Paul Skeins against the guys he.
Speaker 1: Like may very well be just just be like the
Speaker 1: best pitcher in baseball already and in fact, like I
Speaker 1: might make, I might make that argument, it might not
Speaker 1: even be like a hypothetical, like just watching him his
Speaker 1: electric He obviously had his seven no hit innings that
Speaker 1: he came out after throwing ninety nine pitches.
Speaker 3: Earlier this week another outrage.
Speaker 1: I just think he's like a stud and like every
Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy, Like I.
Speaker 2: Don't know who's who's better than him.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair, Like, and that goes back to
Speaker 3: what we were saying about Justin Steel, like Paul Skins
Speaker 3: does have the dominant fastball. That's he has like dominant
Speaker 3: dominant stuff. Like even he's the kind of guy where
Speaker 3: even if he comes out like like if Justin Steele
Speaker 3: comes out and like you know, like the whole his
Speaker 3: the old school term of like you know, he doesn't
Speaker 3: like he doesn't have it that day, Like he just
Speaker 3: has to kind of bulldog through his start, his way
Speaker 3: through a start. Justin Steele can do that, he can
Speaker 3: still pitch around it, but it's gonna be harder for
Speaker 3: someone like Justin Steel if he doesn't have one of
Speaker 3: his feel for one of his pitches, it's gonna it's
Speaker 3: gonna be harder for him to kind of like pitch
Speaker 3: around that. Volts Kains can just you know, reach back
Speaker 3: and throw one hundred miles an hour and just get
Speaker 3: through things that way and I've seen him do it
Speaker 3: this year, Like he had starts where he didn't have
Speaker 3: his best pitch and he's like, no, no problem, I'll
Speaker 3: just lean on my other elite pitches.
Speaker 1: So yeah, can we get Justin steal a splinker?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh, what do you think about the All
Speaker 1: Star Game in general? I mean we talked about a
Speaker 1: little bit at the top of the show. Is it
Speaker 1: something that you typically do kind of sit down and
Speaker 1: like to watch every inning of Do you like, is
Speaker 1: it fun for you to see players from your favorite
Speaker 1: team in there? Like for me, it's it's almost more
Speaker 1: fun just to see that they made the team. Like
Speaker 1: I care a little bit less about what my players
Speaker 1: actually quite frankly, like I would prefer Corbyn Burns didn't
Speaker 1: pitch in it at all, like I'd rather. There was
Speaker 1: some talk about maybe bumping him up because he would
Speaker 1: have stayed on regular arrest to Tuesday this week and
Speaker 1: therefore getting a start on Sunday and not being able
Speaker 1: to pitch in the All Star Game. I would have
Speaker 1: supported that, like I'd much rather se him get a
Speaker 1: start again the Yankees this weekend than the honor of
Speaker 1: starting the All Star Game because it's just an exhibition
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter. It will be cool if he does,
Speaker 1: you know, do that, Like I'm not gonna not enjoy
Speaker 1: watching him in the All Star Game. But it's just
Speaker 1: not something I've cared that passionately about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've given my hot take. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I've given it on air before, but I've given it
Speaker 3: to you. But I want them to go back to
Speaker 3: when the All Star Game mattered. I wanted to determine
Speaker 3: home field avantage again. I hate that it's an exhibition game.
Speaker 3: I want it to matter. I think it was the
Speaker 3: best All Star game when that was a thing, and
Speaker 3: that I don't want to be like old man yells
Speaker 3: at cloud here, but like I liked him when there
Speaker 3: was like a little bit of rivalry like in the
Speaker 3: All Star Game and players cared, which I know, like
Speaker 3: with how contracts I've gone, We're just like never going
Speaker 3: to see that again in an exhibition game. Like these
Speaker 3: players are worth too much, they're too valuable. The risk
Speaker 3: of getting hurt is just not worth it in an
Speaker 3: All Star game. But like, who was it years ago?
Speaker 3: Was it was it Pedro Martinez, Alex Rodriguez? Where he
Speaker 3: just like said, like I'm just gonna throw fastballs, like
Speaker 3: see if you can hit him. I forget if it
Speaker 3: was Pedro, if there was another picture, but it was
Speaker 3: like it was like a matchup like that. It was like, look,
Speaker 3: I'm only gonna throw fastballs, like you know, hit it
Speaker 3: if you can, and he struck him out. I want
Speaker 3: to say it was Pedro, but I don't remember if
Speaker 3: it was actually Pedro or not.
Speaker 1: Some Pedro has had some iconic like All Star moments,
Speaker 1: like mowing down elite hitters. I don't remember if he
Speaker 1: did what you're describing. There are some play like Gunnar
Speaker 1: Henderson has a bit of Pete Rose in him, where
Speaker 1: he's just like insanely competitive, like we'll run you over.
Speaker 1: Like Gunner is a psychopath on the field. Obviously, he
Speaker 1: hasn't played in the All Star Game before, so I'm
Speaker 1: really curious to see if he like is a psychopath
Speaker 1: during this game or if he is like you know,
Speaker 1: toning it down and not caring super a lot, because
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. My thing is I think the All
Speaker 1: Star Game either account for home field advantage in the
Speaker 1: World Series or can have fans voting.
Speaker 2: I don't think it can be both. I don't think
Speaker 2: you can have this like like you.
Speaker 1: Know, popular vote or like it's not a true report,
Speaker 1: it's not truly the best team you can put on
Speaker 1: the field. Because the fans are involved, and that's fine,
Speaker 1: but you can't do both. You can't say, like, the
Speaker 1: fans are gonna have this say in what is ultimately
Speaker 1: a really meaningful thing in home field advantage in the
Speaker 1: World Series.
Speaker 2: Like, I just don't think you can have both.
Speaker 1: So either either keep it as is, or like have
Speaker 1: some committee to determine the all star you know, starters
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, the replacements and all that,
Speaker 1: and then it.
Speaker 2: Can count for the World Series. But I don't think it.
Speaker 3: Could be both. Why not to that, I say, why not?
Speaker 1: Because the World Series matters and hopeful advantage matters. And
Speaker 1: you're like, like the fans could be just like, hey,
Speaker 1: we want to see like like if Kansas City had
Speaker 1: some great marketing campaign, it could be like, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: just the Royal starting lineup.
Speaker 2: Why should they determine you know, home field advantage?
Speaker 3: Why why should I don't know that like pans floating
Speaker 3: even matters. I don't know that they even account for it.
Speaker 3: I think I think they like count for it and
Speaker 3: then like at the final Taly, they just put it
Speaker 3: and whoever they want.
Speaker 2: You think.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I didn't understand why Clay Holmes was in over
Speaker 1: Craig Kimberl.
Speaker 2: That one bothered me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, it looks like I found the story I
Speaker 3: was talking about. It wasn't Pedro, but it was a
Speaker 3: Red Sox picture. It was Kurt Chilling. But uh, I
Speaker 3: guess he was at with the Red Sox at the time.
Speaker 3: He must have been when the Diamondbacks when he did that,
Speaker 3: which makes sense Pedro wouldn't have faced a rout in
Speaker 3: the All Star Game. Yeah.
Speaker 2: True, I didn't even think of that part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean it's fun I got I. I
Speaker 1: don't know that it needs to determine home field advantage,
Speaker 1: but you know you're allowed to hold that opinion. I
Speaker 1: don't hold it against you that you are going out
Speaker 1: on that limb. I guess what do you think about
Speaker 1: the homer on Derby. We're gonna talk about it more later.
Speaker 1: Instead of our two start pitcher competition, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a Homer Derby draft.
Speaker 2: So don't give me your thoughts.
Speaker 1: On who thinks it's gonna win it, But just in general,
Speaker 1: like the rules changes, are you kind of on board
Speaker 1: or are you aware of the rules changes?
Speaker 3: I'm aware, I wasn't really aware until you know, I
Speaker 3: schedule all of our content here at Fantasy Pros and
Speaker 3: Betting Pros, and I was setting up some betting content
Speaker 3: for it. And then last year we did like a
Speaker 3: first round matchups article because they were odds for that,
Speaker 3: and I was wondering why there were no odds for
Speaker 3: first round matchups this year. And then it turns out
Speaker 3: there are no first round matchups and so that's why.
Speaker 3: But that wasn't aware of it until then.
Speaker 1: So that's my favorite part of the rules change. I
Speaker 1: like that it's everybody in the first round and then
Speaker 1: head to head after that.
Speaker 2: I'm actually really on board with that setup. I'm really
Speaker 2: torn on the clock plus number of pitches combo.
Speaker 1: Like I get why they went to the clock instead
Speaker 1: of just you have ten outs because people felt like
Speaker 1: it dragged, but like I also like felt like it
Speaker 1: kind of breathed right, like it was you're just kind
Speaker 1: of out there. You got to really take in these
Speaker 1: majestic home runs, and it made it crazy special, like
Speaker 1: when Josh Hamilton did his thing. They was special for
Speaker 1: a number of reasons. When Hamilton had his moment in
Speaker 1: New York, but like seeing him hit like however many
Speaker 1: in a row, it was was awesome because you could
Speaker 1: take in the moment and I get the idea that
Speaker 1: like the clock made it fun at the end, is
Speaker 1: kind of like hitting these butterser beaters and stuff.
Speaker 2: It was very.
Speaker 1: Poorly enforced, Like it was people were always pitching when
Speaker 1: balls were still in the air when they weren't supposed to.
Speaker 1: We didn't get to see all these balls land and really.
Speaker 2: Like appreciate the glory.
Speaker 1: Of a home run, which is like the coolest thing
Speaker 1: you can do. And then like there's still been special
Speaker 1: moments right like against some of these walk offs, like
Speaker 1: you know, some of these people who winning in their
Speaker 1: home stadiums, like Bryce Harper and DC like Todd Frasier
Speaker 1: comes to mind, like Adlee last year doing the switch hitter,
Speaker 1: like both sides stuff was like special, but like I
Speaker 1: kind of like I'm kind of torn, I guess, is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I don't know that combining the
Speaker 1: two is the right decision.
Speaker 2: I'm also a little confused.
Speaker 1: Because it's like you only get forty pitches and three
Speaker 1: minutes or whatever, but you also can get extra outs,
Speaker 1: but if you if there's a time limit m and
Speaker 1: so it's like you get those extra outs if they're
Speaker 1: under the limit. Like I might have missed that kind
Speaker 1: of part of it, but it was a little confusing
Speaker 1: to me. Well, how do you feel about like the
Speaker 1: time versus number of pitches versus total outs.
Speaker 3: So I'm mostly out on the on the timing of it,
Speaker 3: like for the reasons you said, I like it. It
Speaker 3: kind of like sped it up, and like you know,
Speaker 3: that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to like
Speaker 3: capture shorter attention spans. But I liked in the past
Speaker 3: where kind of had the feeling of like a real
Speaker 3: baseball game, where like there is no time limit, Like
Speaker 3: you can be down by nine runs in the ninth
Speaker 3: inning and win because there is no clock that that
Speaker 3: can run out. Like if you can hit ten on
Speaker 3: runs with the before you get ten outs, you can still
Speaker 3: win in a situation like that. And so that part
Speaker 3: I didn't really like. I think there's better ways to
Speaker 3: do it to still keep that like infinity feel to
Speaker 3: it like it can go on forever without like dragging
Speaker 3: it out, Like maybe you can't like take more than
Speaker 3: two pitches in a row or something like that, like
Speaker 3: because that was the old problems that you would just
Speaker 3: have guys take five pitches in a row, wait for
Speaker 3: the perfect one swing, take five pitches and just like
Speaker 3: do that. That was that kind of got boring. But yeah,
Speaker 3: like there are times now where like they're pitching so
Speaker 3: fast where like the ball you know, a guy you know,
Speaker 3: cracks a ball and you don't even see it. They're
Speaker 3: just like you just like seeing the screen like, oh,
Speaker 3: that one went over the fence, Like we have to
Speaker 3: get to the next pitch now, and it's like, come on,
Speaker 3: I want to see the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what I would like is.
Speaker 1: Ten outs like in the past, and maybe you say,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's like you once, maybe you say you
Speaker 1: get eight outs, and then after the eight outs, however
Speaker 1: long that takes, you get thirty seconds for as many
Speaker 1: as you want, because then it's like you kind of
Speaker 1: get that buzzer beating feel at the end, but for
Speaker 1: the most part you're getting to kind of take it
Speaker 1: all in the other thing, I would be interested in
Speaker 1: is like you get ten outs and you get like,
Speaker 1: let's say, like.
Speaker 2: Eighty total pitches.
Speaker 1: Like I think forty pitches is too small honestly for
Speaker 1: a round, Like I don't get why they went to
Speaker 1: that number, and maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I
Speaker 1: think that numbers too small.
Speaker 2: I think something.
Speaker 1: So it's like, so you can't just take indefinitely, like
Speaker 1: there is an upper limit, maybe you call it sixty pitches.
Speaker 1: But it's also not like, hey, you're forced to swing
Speaker 1: at garbage if you get a bad pitch, right, Like
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like when too much of the
Speaker 1: this is put on the pitcher, Like I want this
Speaker 1: to be about the hitters, not about like, hey, of
Speaker 1: those forty pitches, twenty five of them, we're hit able,
Speaker 1: And so he only hit fifteen homers, you know, because
Speaker 1: he's not gonna eat it every time, Like I don't
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that also kind of gives like an advantage to
Speaker 3: like the guy who has the best, most consistent pitcher,
Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't know, I don't know's there's
Speaker 3: always a.
Speaker 2: Bit of an advantage with that, But no, I'm totally
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do that draft at the end of the show,
Speaker 1: so stick around for that as we get there. We're
Speaker 1: also gonna skip waivers today just because it felt silly
Speaker 1: with We're coming up on several days off anyway, so
Speaker 1: we'll kind of reset with some of that stuff next week.
Speaker 1: We're likely gonna do sort of an overall second half
Speaker 1: preview next week and just kind of storylines.
Speaker 2: We want to pay attention.
Speaker 1: To expectations for the second half, guys who we think
Speaker 1: can be league winners in the second half, so be
Speaker 1: sure to check in next week.
Speaker 2: Even with the also break, we will be doing a show.
Speaker 1: It'll probably be a shorter show next week and like
Speaker 1: more of a higher level overview than kind of our
Speaker 1: usual specifics, But be on the lookout for that next week,
Speaker 1: probably on Friday of next week. But let's do some
Speaker 1: bi Loo sell high because you can still trade right now,
Speaker 1: so we'll kind of quickly go through these and then
Speaker 1: wrap up the show. I'm going to start off with
Speaker 1: my favorite by low is Bobby Miller, and this is
Speaker 1: specifically in Dynasty leagues. We don't often do Dynasty specific picks,
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to highlight that I know he
Speaker 1: has really struggled this year. He was demoted to the
Speaker 1: minors because of his struggles this year, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: going out and you know, aggressively stashing him in redraft,
Speaker 1: in dynasty formats, in keeper formats. I'm not really worried
Speaker 1: about Bobby Miller at all. He's only twenty five. He
Speaker 1: was very good last year. He still is in a
Speaker 1: great organization for developing pitchers, a great organization for getting wins. Again,
Speaker 1: Like I am, I know it was has been bad
Speaker 1: this year. The stuff doesn't look particularly terrible to me.
Speaker 1: He's starting his fastball a lot more and it's getting
Speaker 1: kind of wrecked. So I hope that when he comes back.
Speaker 1: I mean, last year he threw it twenty eight point
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time. This year is for Seamer's
Speaker 1: forty three point five percent of the time. It's like
Speaker 1: pretty significet jump. And like I said, it hasn't been
Speaker 1: a particularly effective pitch. I mean, hitters are batting two
Speaker 1: seventy off of it with a five twenty four slugging
Speaker 1: wOBA off That pitch is three eighty five expected woba's
Speaker 1: even higher. Like I'm you know, the the eggs of
Speaker 1: veloci off the pitches is ninety two point two miles
Speaker 1: per hours. Has not been a particularly strong pitch, so
Speaker 1: I would liked an he's throwing at a ton, so
Speaker 1: I would like to see that.
Speaker 2: Come down a bit.
Speaker 1: But by and large, I'm not worried about the stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about this scuffling this year. There's also
Speaker 1: been injuries involved this year in Dynasty. If you can
Speaker 1: buy low, I am very happy to do. So what
Speaker 1: do you think about Bobby Miller.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big Bobby Miller fan. I was very
Speaker 3: high on him coming into this year. So it's been
Speaker 3: a pretty disappointing year. But like you said, the injuries
Speaker 3: have kind of been a factor there. It's it's pretty
Speaker 3: rare you can say that a guy his expected era
Speaker 3: is a full two runs lower than his RA and
Speaker 3: still be disappointed because that expected era is still above six.
Speaker 3: You got to be pretty bad for that for that
Speaker 3: to be the case. Yeah, for all the reasons you said,
Speaker 3: I you know, I'm very bullish on Bobby Miller. Long term,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what we're going to see this season,
Speaker 3: especially with the rumblings that like the Dodgers, despite all
Speaker 3: their pitching depth, they're kind of like sniffing around the
Speaker 3: trade market to find like more pitching, even with like
Speaker 3: Bobby Miller still around, Clinton curs are coming back. The
Speaker 3: fact that they're still looking for for pitching, you know,
Speaker 3: it kind of tells me that, you know, maybe they're
Speaker 3: maybe they're considering this a lost year for Bobby Miller,
Speaker 3: and maybe that's the way to move the way to
Speaker 3: view it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it may very well be, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's the cheapest you'll ever be able to acquire him
Speaker 1: in Dynasty, I believe. So, you know, I'm happy to
Speaker 1: Builow in any kind of keeper format.
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite Bilo?
Speaker 3: My favorite Bilo is Boba Schett, and it's it's a
Speaker 3: it's a somewhat. I wrote about this one in this
Speaker 3: week's Fantasy Baseball Players to Trade Now on the side
Speaker 3: our Bilow style high featured Pros article that we reference
Speaker 3: pretty much every week. And it's a little bit of
Speaker 3: a unique situation in that, like a lot of times
Speaker 3: we're talking about players that we're looking at for like
Speaker 3: regression in one way or another. I don't have a
Speaker 3: whole lot of reasons to buy low on Boba Schett,
Speaker 3: Like there's not a whole lot in his data saying
Speaker 3: you should. It's just that he's Boba Schett, and I
Speaker 3: think he's better than this, and I think he not
Speaker 3: only can you buy low, he might be free right now.
Speaker 3: Like I'm in a couple of leagues where he's been dropped,
Speaker 3: one of them with a keeper ramification. So someone dropped
Speaker 3: him in a keeper league, and it's not the league.
Speaker 3: If I pick him up in this league, I can't
Speaker 3: keep him. You have to draft, you know, players that
Speaker 3: you keep, you can't keep free agents. But I already
Speaker 3: have a waiverclaim in for him because there is a
Speaker 3: chance that he just you know, is better in the
Speaker 3: second half. And what I wrote, like in the article
Speaker 3: is that, like I don't have a ton of metrics
Speaker 3: for you to say like this, this is coming on.
Speaker 3: He's expected batting average is forty points higher, Like he's
Speaker 3: batting two twenty one. He's expected about two sixty. That's
Speaker 3: a little bit closer to his career average of two ninety,
Speaker 3: which you know last year he bat at three. And
Speaker 3: sometimes when I know I wrote this in the article,
Speaker 3: sometimes like this, All Star break can just kind of
Speaker 3: do magical things. Like you you see players who just
Speaker 3: have incredible first halfs, get to the All Star break
Speaker 3: and they're just not that player in the second half anymore.
Speaker 3: And you see the opposite players who have pretty lousy
Speaker 3: first halfs. They just get that week off, they reset,
Speaker 3: they recollect themselves, and then they come back and they're
Speaker 3: just much better in the second half. I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's gonna happen for Bobashet, but he's almost free
Speaker 3: right now. And if I can get a short stop,
Speaker 3: and granted short stop is a pretty like a deeper
Speaker 3: position this year, but like, if I can get a
Speaker 3: middle infield or a shortstop who's gonna hit close to
Speaker 3: three hundred the rest of the way with a little
Speaker 3: bit of power, a little bit of speed. He has
Speaker 3: been running more than usual, you know, not a ton,
Speaker 3: but he's got five stone bases this year, but he
Speaker 3: only stole five all of last year. But if I
Speaker 3: can get someone like Bobashet from my middle dfield spot
Speaker 3: or my utility spot, or even just someone I can
Speaker 3: you know, stream when when they have a bunch of
Speaker 3: games against good matchups, Like he's almost free right now,
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm buying a lot.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great call. My favorite cell high
Speaker 1: is Reese Hines. Obviously, his start to his career has
Speaker 1: been super fun. He's eight eight for sixteen excuse me,
Speaker 1: padding five hundred. He has two home runs, two stolen
Speaker 1: bases in those sixteen played appearances here to start his career.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny to look at because it obviously
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter this few games into his career, but
Speaker 1: extremely red on stat cast. Everything is about as max
Speaker 1: out as you'll possibly see four games in. I think
Speaker 1: it's four games, whatever it is, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: a lot, And I just think that it's an opportunity
Speaker 1: to say, like, if somebody just wants the next big thing,
Speaker 1: it's also the rare prospect this year who's been really
Speaker 1: good right off the bat. We've had so many like
Speaker 1: elite prospects that have struggled this season to make the
Speaker 1: leap that, like seeing somebody do really well is probably
Speaker 1: pretty intoxicating. The power is prodigious, you know, like when
Speaker 1: he hits a home run, he hits a home run.
Speaker 1: So it's fun to watch, and that I think, in
Speaker 1: my experience, tends to make it a little easier to
Speaker 1: trade away guys, because you know, people are so intoxicated
Speaker 1: by the power, and he does have speed as well.
Speaker 1: He's clearly not gonna hit five hundred. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: have two homers and two steals every sixteen played appearances.
Speaker 1: I just think it's an opportunity to say, like, listen,
Speaker 1: he's kind of the hot thing right now in this
Speaker 1: awesome start, and people like they want to get in
Speaker 1: early on the next big thing. So if you can
Speaker 1: get a much more proven asset from a guy who
Speaker 1: was only the Reds fifteenth ranked prospect this season by
Speaker 1: MLB Pipeline, for guy who is even with this super
Speaker 1: fun start, like his chase rate is over fifty percent,
Speaker 1: his with rates over thirty percent, his strikeout rates over
Speaker 1: thirty one percent. He has not walked yet, you know
Speaker 1: in those games like I hit the profile is just
Speaker 1: like screaming for Like, he has power for sure, and
Speaker 1: maybe even some speed. But I think the batting average
Speaker 1: is going to crater, and I think I think in
Speaker 1: a points league, like the strikeouts are going to be
Speaker 1: a huge problem. And if you, like you said, if
Speaker 1: you get somebody who's much more reliable and proven, I'm
Speaker 1: making that trade ten times out of ten.
Speaker 2: Have you had any early impressions on.
Speaker 3: High, very impressive so far. But I also would have
Speaker 3: him as a so high for the reasons you mentioned,
Speaker 3: and then also you know he's not going to have
Speaker 3: a long leash on playing time. The Reds have a
Speaker 3: ton of outfielders. They're getting TJ. Friedle back hopefully. You know,
Speaker 3: he keeps coming back looking good and getting hurt again.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm dying to have him back on my
Speaker 3: and you know I have him in a bunch of
Speaker 3: dynasty leagues. I'm dying to roster him again, especially because
Speaker 3: a lot of those are like five outfitter leagues where
Speaker 3: I really need someone like DJ Friedl. But you know,
Speaker 3: they have a bunch of outfielders that they're kind of
Speaker 3: like rotating in. And so when Friedle's back after the break,
Speaker 3: which he should be, if he struggles at all, he's
Speaker 3: not going to have a you know, a long leash,
Speaker 3: and he could be either on the bench or not
Speaker 3: playing every day, which you know, even if someone is
Speaker 3: playing well, if they're not playing every day, then it's
Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to justify keeping them in your lineup.
Speaker 2: Who's your cell high?
Speaker 3: My so high is Jamison Taione. Uh the Orioles Killer.
Speaker 1: Every every Chicago Cub is the Orioles killer this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like it's kind of like for that reason
Speaker 3: I wrote, he's someone I wrote up to in that
Speaker 3: that recent article, where whereas even with like some of
Speaker 3: you know, we've been talking all year about kind of
Speaker 3: the all of the starting pitching that's available, we're seeing
Speaker 3: a little bit of aggression now where we're like hitting
Speaker 3: it starting to catch up a little bit as we
Speaker 3: get into the summer. But I think he just kind
Speaker 3: of opened up a nice little cell high wind window
Speaker 3: for you with his win over the Oriols, because not
Speaker 3: only was it a win over probably the best offensive
Speaker 3: baseball but it also dipped his RA below three. So
Speaker 3: when you get into those trade discussions, you get to show,
Speaker 3: you know, a picture with a shiny two point nine
Speaker 3: to nine array in that offer. You get to see,
Speaker 3: you know, it's always nice to have a sub three
Speaker 3: ARRA in an offer. But still, he's another guy, you know,
Speaker 3: seventy two strikeouts in eighty seven to third inning. He's like,
Speaker 3: I think he's fine. He's in that cromulent category. He's
Speaker 3: kind of been in that category his whole career. He's
Speaker 3: had an era, like you know, his career era is
Speaker 3: close to four, and that includes like some a couple
Speaker 3: of like really good early years with the with the Pirates,
Speaker 3: and then just kind of been hovering around four his
Speaker 3: whole career. And that's where a bunch of his expected
Speaker 3: numbers says the ra should be. And so I just
Speaker 3: think he's like a very like average cromulent starter that
Speaker 3: if you can sell him for a little bit more,
Speaker 3: like in the article I mentioned, like maybe you can
Speaker 3: get like if you want to swap a pitcher for
Speaker 3: a bat, maybe you can get like a Mark Ventos
Speaker 3: or even like an Alec Burleson. I think that's a
Speaker 3: comparable hitter who might do more for you rest of
Speaker 3: season than tyone is going to do for you as
Speaker 3: a pitcher.
Speaker 2: Let's go to our weekend excitement.
Speaker 1: O's Yankees is every time they play, it's going to
Speaker 1: be a really important fun series. It's you know, closing
Speaker 1: out the unofficial first half of the season. Obviously, these
Speaker 1: are two best teams in the AL East, both scuffling.
Speaker 1: I mean obvious, I would say obviously, but I understand
Speaker 1: why you would disagree.
Speaker 3: We just took a series from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, the Orioles obviously the best team in
Speaker 1: they at least let's say Yankees, maybe not obviously the
Speaker 1: second best.
Speaker 3: Can you live with that.
Speaker 2: Either way? A huge series, so that's an interesting one.
Speaker 1: We get Kid Povic versus Garrett Cole, which is a
Speaker 1: bit of a mismatch, but we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1: And then on Sunday Chris Silver still in Sea is
Speaker 1: just a really fun matchup of a couple of starting pitchers.
Speaker 2: And then also on Sunday, the MLB Draft. I love
Speaker 2: the draft.
Speaker 1: I have paid a bit less attention to it this
Speaker 1: year because the Orioles finally av Yeah, but still like
Speaker 1: a very exciting time for me as a dynasty manager,
Speaker 1: as somebody who just enjoys drafts in general, Like I
Speaker 1: love you know, it's it's funny. I always would talk
Speaker 1: about like for the NBA Draft, I know the players
Speaker 1: really well because I follow college very closely, And for
Speaker 1: the MLB Draft, I know the teams really well, but
Speaker 1: I don't follow college as closely. NFL is kind of
Speaker 1: that nice balance where I know the players and I
Speaker 1: follow the league they're going into closely. So Baseball it's
Speaker 1: a little different in that I'm not watching the College
Speaker 1: World series, like I'm not that guy. But I listened
Speaker 1: to all the podcasts, I read the articles of the
Speaker 1: mock drafts.
Speaker 2: I still enjoy. Drafts are just fun.
Speaker 3: In there too. It's not even just not following like
Speaker 3: college like somebody says coming out of high school.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago a kid from my high
Speaker 1: school was second rounder, which was fun.
Speaker 2: He hasn't turned into anything, but.
Speaker 1: And uh, Jim kallis the you know, well known MLB
Speaker 1: prospect guy went to my high school as well. So
Speaker 1: if I was a scout at all, or if I
Speaker 1: was a prospect at all as a player when I
Speaker 1: played at Oakton High School in Vienna, Virginia, he would
Speaker 1: have covered me at his alma mater.
Speaker 2: But sadly I was not that good.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just love the draft and that Sunday,
Speaker 1: the start of it is Sunday. So I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see what Michael Eyas does because it is the thing
Speaker 1: he is far the best at and has.
Speaker 2: Absolutely crushed for the Orioles. So hopefully that continues when
Speaker 2: they don't have a top five pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a little I was gonna say it's
Speaker 3: a little bit easier to pick in the top five
Speaker 3: than it is second half of the first round.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but people do always say this like he
Speaker 1: has made the right picks, right, Like he took Heston
Speaker 1: Curestat over Austin Martin when nobody else wanted to do that.
Speaker 1: He took Colton Cowser over Khalil Watson when everybody wanted Watson,
Speaker 1: and he's made great finds later like people keep talking about, like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: like they tank, so that's why all these good players,
Speaker 1: Like every team other than one could have drafted Gunner
Speaker 1: Henderson and chose not to do you know the one, No,
Speaker 1: the Red Sox.
Speaker 3: I was the only team that I was gonna.
Speaker 2: Have a pick.
Speaker 1: Or before Gunner was drafted, every other team had a chance.
Speaker 1: You know, Kobe Meyo was a fourth round pick and
Speaker 1: now he's like the best hitter of the miners according
Speaker 1: to me. So so yeah, anyways, I think that is
Speaker 1: kind of overblown.
Speaker 2: But what's your weekend excitement?
Speaker 3: So I want to see Andrew Rabbitts second start of
Speaker 3: the week. He's my two star pitcher. In his first
Speaker 3: star it was very good, and so I'm looking to,
Speaker 3: uh see if I can even up the the series
Speaker 3: at seven and seven and seven and a two starts.
Speaker 2: Are you sure he's your two star pitcher?
Speaker 3: Yeah, right there.
Speaker 2: I thought you had Nicolodolo.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I do have Nicolodola. Darn it. He was
Speaker 3: my waiver pick last week for it because of his
Speaker 3: two starts.
Speaker 1: So you actually cleared out last week's You cleared out
Speaker 1: last week's outline before.
Speaker 2: We noted in our sheet who the picks were.
Speaker 1: So I had to go back and look at like
Speaker 1: our old version history of the sheet, and it did
Speaker 1: say Lodolo in the you know, history version of our
Speaker 1: Google sheet, so I'm assuming that's correct.
Speaker 3: Oh god, Lodolo did so much worse too. We did
Speaker 3: three and two third innings, four runs. Oh man, all show.
Speaker 2: Renel Blanco, who was my pick, had a good start.
Speaker 3: Oh dang it, this is this is terrible. Cancel the
Speaker 3: rest of the show.
Speaker 2: Are you still excited about edraw Abbitts second start?
Speaker 3: I guess I mean he was. He was still my
Speaker 3: waiver pick of the week, So it's it's still looking
Speaker 3: good for me because I just picked the wrong one
Speaker 3: for my two start picture competition. Well, because they're you know,
Speaker 3: the picture of the same team. They had the two
Speaker 3: same matchups. I think it was Rockies. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: Rockies on the road and then Marlin's or Rockies at
Speaker 3: home and then Marlin's at home as well, So they
Speaker 3: both had two really good matchups. That's why I have
Speaker 3: been both last week. So that's disappointing. The wonder I
Speaker 3: deleted it. I also want to see what you know
Speaker 3: obviously you mentioned Orioles Yankees, like Louis Heel is going
Speaker 3: to go up against the Orioles. Pretty interested to see
Speaker 3: what what he looks like because he hasn't looked good
Speaker 3: and it's this is going to be his final start
Speaker 3: of the first half. It's going to be it's going
Speaker 3: to say a lot about how he closes, uh close
Speaker 3: up the first half of how people feel about him
Speaker 3: going into the second half. Imagine we might talk about
Speaker 3: him next week. And then I live down in Georgia
Speaker 3: now and it's really really hot, mid nineties weather and
Speaker 3: it's just awful. So I'm just looking forward to just
Speaker 3: suffering through more of that.
Speaker 2: Today it it's in the hundreds, so nice. It is
Speaker 2: a heat wave this.
Speaker 1: I played softball last night and it was in the
Speaker 1: evening and it was like sweltering, sweltering and brutal, and
Speaker 1: today's even worse, so I will be stuck inside with
Speaker 1: my dog most of the day. All right, let's wrap
Speaker 1: things up with our not to start pitcher competition, although
Speaker 1: I will give a quick update that the previous finished
Speaker 1: week you did win.
Speaker 2: It was Scooball. He did much better than Hunter Brown.
Speaker 1: That was back for matchup thirteen, So the record is
Speaker 1: currently Worm seven and Mayor six.
Speaker 2: As far as how our.
Speaker 1: Fill ins did, Kelly and Tuma both one for me
Speaker 1: against you. Bogman and Welsh both won for you against me,
Speaker 1: So the two of us combined are over our last four.
Speaker 1: All the guests keep winning, one of us will finally
Speaker 1: win this week. With Blancover's lobolously. There's no two starts
Speaker 1: next week, so we are not going to do a
Speaker 1: two start competition. Instead, we will draft home run derby teams.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back and forth. We're not gonna do
Speaker 1: any of that silly snake draft like somebody makes the
Speaker 1: first pick, then the next person makes two, then two.
Speaker 2: I think that's ridiculous. It'll just be back and forth.
Speaker 1: Whoever gets the first pick is a little lucky. It's
Speaker 1: not like we really know what we're doing here anyway.
Speaker 2: It's all for fun. So let's flip a coin.
Speaker 1: I have a just a Google thing pulled up here,
Speaker 1: so I'll let you call it and I'll quote unquote
Speaker 1: flip it, but I'll really just click flip again.
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna click flip in three two
Speaker 2: one and then you call it. Well, it's quote unquote
Speaker 2: in the air three two one.
Speaker 3: Flip tails never fails.
Speaker 2: It's flipping. It is tails. So do you want to
Speaker 2: go first or second?
Speaker 3: I will go first.
Speaker 1: Okay, who is your Oh and by the way, I
Speaker 1: suppose we should let everybody know who's.
Speaker 2: Actually in the field.
Speaker 1: It's Pete Alonzo, Alec Bohm, at a Last, Garcia, Gunnar Henderson,
Speaker 1: Oscar Hernandez, Marcelo Zuna, Jose Ramirez, Bobby Witt Junior.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: So I'm torn here because there's a player I want
Speaker 3: to pick, but I also would love to pick the
Speaker 3: player that you want to pick and just really kind
Speaker 3: of ruin your enjoyment of the of the All Star
Speaker 3: or the Hermone Derby. So I'll go Gunner Henderson with
Speaker 3: the first pick.
Speaker 2: First of all, rude. Uh, you didn't even pick the
Speaker 2: obvious guy just to spike me. That's so rude of you.
Speaker 3: Which obvious guy.
Speaker 1: So, first of all, I would actually have if I
Speaker 1: was like building out like my big board, Gunner would
Speaker 1: actually be third, but I would take him first because
Speaker 1: of course I have to take the oriol first.
Speaker 2: I think the Oriols never win.
Speaker 1: They haven't won one since Miguel Tahata, and they've had
Speaker 1: opportunities like Chris Davis was a big slugger, Mark Trumbo,
Speaker 1: Trey Vncini had like an awesome run when he was,
Speaker 1: you know, back from cancer, was like a really very
Speaker 1: cool moment. Obviously Adley last year with the switch hitting.
Speaker 1: But I wanted Gunner because he's the Oriol and.
Speaker 2: That's quite roode of you.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna take the guy who, like weirdly cares
Speaker 1: so much about the home run derby and has won
Speaker 1: it before and knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2: Uh, and that's ped Alonzo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the which go ahead.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he's the clear the clear one
Speaker 1: one setting aside Fandoms because again of just his experience
Speaker 1: in the event and now it is a little bit
Speaker 1: of a different event as we talked about. So maybe
Speaker 1: that doesn't play to his strengths. Will find out, but
Speaker 1: it's what his fifth straight year competing, like Peter Alonzo
Speaker 1: lives for the home run derby, Like I said, the
Speaker 1: clear one one if you're setting aside fandoms, So you
Speaker 1: did get the guy I wanted, but I will take
Speaker 1: pedal on so and you're.
Speaker 2: Back on the clock here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's the odds on favorite and plan as
Speaker 3: he should. He has the best odds, Gunner Henderson as
Speaker 3: the third best odds, and I'll I guess I'll take
Speaker 3: the player with the second best odds and Marcello.
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's a terrible pick. Like obviously
Speaker 2: he's had a ton of home runs this year.
Speaker 1: The player that I actually have second has not hit
Speaker 1: that many home runs this year, like second on my board.
Speaker 1: And who I'm going to draft here just because he
Speaker 1: might fall, but I want to make sure I get
Speaker 1: him is.
Speaker 2: Bobby Witt Junior.
Speaker 1: He I think he might have won this contest when
Speaker 1: they had the high schoolers participate the year he was
Speaker 1: in high school before he was drafted. He has a
Speaker 1: swing that he like, he doesn't really swing for the
Speaker 1: defenses quite as much. I mean, he obviously is still
Speaker 1: a powerful hitter. He's fifteen home runs this year. You know,
Speaker 1: he can hit bombs. But I think he has a
Speaker 1: swing that's really well suited to the derby. I think
Speaker 1: he's like a stronger version of Alex Bregman, where he's
Speaker 1: like the swing is just kind of like very repeatable,
Speaker 1: smooth and do it you know a bunch, you know,
Speaker 1: have that endurance throughout the course of the night. And
Speaker 1: again he's won a contest like this before. So even
Speaker 1: though he is lower on the list of home runs
Speaker 1: this season, I think Wit is a sneaky value pick
Speaker 1: and I'm very excited to get I wish I had
Speaker 1: gotten Gunner, but the three players I wanted most were Gunner, Alonso,
Speaker 1: and Wit, so I'm happy to get.
Speaker 2: Two of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm looking at the I'm basically doing this
Speaker 3: draft by looking at betting odds and not to reveal
Speaker 3: my strategy, but you know, I deviated from that by
Speaker 3: taking your player first and then looking at betting odds next.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting in that there are five players that
Speaker 3: are five point fifty or better and the other three
Speaker 3: are all a thousand or worse. And so there's only
Speaker 3: one player left with what Vegas thinks has a real
Speaker 3: shot of winning this, and that is at at least Garcia.
Speaker 3: So that's who I'll take.
Speaker 2: Care Garcia is who I would have taken.
Speaker 1: Also, is just fun to have, like the hometown guy,
Speaker 1: Like you always want somebody who's playing in his own
Speaker 1: home park, and he is the type of guy that
Speaker 1: I think could do very well.
Speaker 2: That would have been my next pick. I think that's
Speaker 2: a smart one. I'm surprised I don't have the odds
Speaker 2: pulled up.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Jose Ramirez his odds are are that
Speaker 1: much worse than the rest of the group, considering how
Speaker 1: many home runs he's hit.
Speaker 3: This do you want to do? You want to know
Speaker 3: the rest of the odds? Are they remaining three? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do so.
Speaker 3: Peter Lonzo is plus three forty, Marcelo's doing a plus
Speaker 3: three eighty, Gunner Henderson is plus four seventy five at
Speaker 3: at least Garcia plus five hundred, Babi Wo Junior is
Speaker 3: plus five fifty. Then there's the gap. Then it's Tioscar
Speaker 3: Hernandez plus one thousand, then another mini gap, Jose Ramirez
Speaker 3: plus thirteen hundred and then at the very bottom Alec
Speaker 3: Boum plus sixteen hundred.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but Bom I think is clearly I mean,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on my team.
Speaker 2: I assume he's the last pick. I think to me,
Speaker 2: it's between Ramirez and and tay Oscar.
Speaker 1: Like I'm somewhat intrigued by going with Taoskar, just like
Speaker 1: he's the type of guy who, in like a real
Speaker 1: game it can go and get on such a heater
Speaker 1: that like he just can't miss, and you could see
Speaker 1: him doing that in this settings. Ramirez like the better player.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really torn.
Speaker 2: Between the two of them. Honestly, I think.
Speaker 1: I will go with I'm gonna go with Jose Ramirez.
Speaker 1: He's a better player. MLB dot Com actually as him
Speaker 1: as the third best chance to win, like just in
Speaker 1: terms of ranking them. I don't know why the odds
Speaker 1: are are different.
Speaker 3: Well, have you seen any of the rankings that MLB
Speaker 3: has been putting out the last for the last several
Speaker 3: months with their like best players at this position, And
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, maybe that's where they pulled this list
Speaker 3: from too.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 1: He has participated in the Derby before in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two Jose Ramirez, but he had like an injury that
Speaker 1: made him bat right handed in the derby and he.
Speaker 2: This is all knows from MLB dot com.
Speaker 1: He struggled to advance out of the first round, but
Speaker 1: he did still hit seventeen homers in that first round.
Speaker 1: So with this new format, maybe that gets a better
Speaker 1: chance at advancing. I'm gonna take Jose Ramirez.
Speaker 3: That's what I would have done. I'm tempted to take
Speaker 3: Alec Baum just to be contrarian and just because like
Speaker 3: it would be such an upset if Alec Boum, if
Speaker 3: Alec Bohm won this thing. Uh, if you.
Speaker 2: Want to take Alec Baum, I will not stop you.
Speaker 3: Uh let's do it. Give me Alec Boum, give me
Speaker 3: the underdog, underdog.
Speaker 2: Suckered you into it. Give me the end so that
Speaker 2: I'll take ta Oscar.
Speaker 1: Uh So again, outside of not getting Gunner, I basically
Speaker 1: got the team I wanted. Like like if you if
Speaker 1: it was just we each got to pick four, not
Speaker 1: in a draft format, and it could be whichever for
Speaker 1: we wanted. Like if you gave me Gunner instead of
Speaker 1: ta Oscar, this would be the four I would have taken.
Speaker 1: I would have taken Alonso with Joseer Ramirez even over Ozuna,
Speaker 1: I think, and Gunner. So outside of you having my guy,
Speaker 1: I'm really happy with my draft. I think I think
Speaker 1: I kind of trounced you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't think Boom was a smart pick.
Speaker 3: Is just an emotional, scrappy underdog pick.
Speaker 2: What would you say is the best value here?
Speaker 1: If we're if the mock draft simulator was grading us,
Speaker 1: who who would have the better grade here?
Speaker 2: Bom would be.
Speaker 3: The reach would be would probably it was, it was definitely.
Speaker 2: And Gunner would be a reach to based on the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you you would get the better grade because I
Speaker 3: picked I mean, depending on what the rankings you're looking at.
Speaker 3: But I picked the third player first, so I reached there,
Speaker 3: and then you got a value by picking the first
Speaker 3: player second. Then it was pretty even and then yeah,
Speaker 3: like I took bo you.
Speaker 2: Know what you got. You gotta get your guys, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, ADP is a myth. You gotta get your guys.
Speaker 1: Uh. If if if I was not an Orioles fan,
Speaker 1: if that was not a part of this at all,
Speaker 1: where would you have right Gunner? Like like Peter Alonzo
Speaker 1: obviously we agree one one. Who would be your second
Speaker 1: pick if everything was the same, except for I didn't
Speaker 1: care less about the Orioles?
Speaker 2: Would it still?
Speaker 1: Would it have been Gunner just because he's the most
Speaker 1: time runs the season of anybody in the field, or
Speaker 1: would it have been you know, Azuna or who?
Speaker 3: I think I still would have gone Ozuna. He's just
Speaker 3: been like a freak home run hitter recently and I
Speaker 3: can just see him like he just like feels like
Speaker 3: the kind of who's gonna win this thing?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: So there was a world where I could have gone Gunner,
Speaker 1: or I could have gone Alonso. Then you go a Zuno,
Speaker 1: then I go Gunner if if you weren't you know,
Speaker 1: torn by biases trying to hurt me despite being your
Speaker 1: close personal friend.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get out of there on that.
Speaker 1: A quick recap with the teams, by the way, Alonso
Speaker 1: wit Jose, Ramirez, Taoskar for me, Gunner, Ozuna at Elise,
Speaker 1: and Boom for you. So this will just count as
Speaker 1: one win in it. And do we agree that it's
Speaker 1: just whoever wins it? Or do we have like a
Speaker 1: point system like every round you advance to I just.
Speaker 3: Think I think the winner. Whoever wins it wins it, right.
Speaker 2: Just whoever gets on I'm totally good with that. That's simplest,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Whoever whoever's team has the winner gets the point. All right,
Speaker 1: We'll get out of there on that. I hope everybody
Speaker 1: enjoys the All Star you know, breaking like I said,
Speaker 1: the respite from the marathon, but also you know, all
Speaker 1: the festivities and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be.
Speaker 1: Playing softball both nights with Homer and Derby and the
Speaker 1: All Star Game, so I'm gonna be recording it and
Speaker 1: watching the backley. But but yeah, looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: And like I said, we'll be back next week for
Speaker 1: something of a second half previews. I hope everybody tunes
Speaker 1: in for that. For Mayor, I'm Ryan Warmley. Thank you
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