WEBVTT - The Cycle: 1st Half Check-In, Home Run Derby Draft, All-Star Game Takes (Ep. 863) 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.640 Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Warmley, 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.880 joined as always by Mike Meyer. It is a couple 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:09.360 of days before the All Star Break, a couple of 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:10.760 days before the MLB. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:12.920 Draft for the home run derby. We're going to talk 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:14.920 about that a bit later, before the actual All. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.680 Star Game and before we have a little respite from baseball, 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:18.960 so we are. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:20.759 We were kind of joking before the show. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:22.880 It's not quite like senior itis of like, hey, we're 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.040 almost out of here, but maybe a little bit of 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.400 a shorter show here as there's just frankly less to 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.840 look forward to next week because it's the fun exhibition 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.519 stuff and also the very sad, very boring couple of 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.559 days out of the year where there's no sports on, 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.360 which is always not super fun. How you feeling heading 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.400 into the All Star Break? I mean we're past the 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.880 technical halfway point of the season, but kind of the 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.400 unofficial halfway points still, least in terms of how a 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:49.200 lot of people. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.920 Think about it. How are you feeling heading into the break? 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.519 I'm feeling good. I'm looking for I always kind of 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.200 like look forward to the All Star Game and the 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.400 Horme Run Derby, not because I like them, but because 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.400 I kind of like taking a few days off is 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.680 such a marathon that I kind of like just kind 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:04.160 of catching my breath in the middle of the season, 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.240 especially as like you know, the football is like starting 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.319 to creep into your mind, and baseball, like, you know, 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.440 we're on month what April, May, June. We're on our 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.080 fourth month here, and we still have a long way 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.360 to go, and so it's like it's always a nice 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.360 little break. Even if I'm not particularly fond of the 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:22.640 All Star Game right now. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.800 I mean, it's really really feels like the fifth month, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.959 because like March is kind of a marathon in itself 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.319 in terms of fantasy baseball coverage and spring training and 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:32.440 getting ready for the season. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.760 So fantasy draft, yeah, I'm totally yep drafts. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.480 I'm totally with you. I'm a big fan of the 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.360 Home Run Derby. It was always very fun for me. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.040 You have friends come over like that one was I 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.760 never really cared about the All Star Game itself growing up, 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.720 but the Home Run Derby it was like not like 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.160 important to me, but like I really enjoyed it. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.880 It was it was a very fun night. I'm not 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.640 sure how I feel about the kind of ever rules 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.520 changes we have for this year. We'll talk about that 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:56.960 later on in rounding the bases. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:58.920 Just a quick note for everyone that if you like 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.600 this content, the best way to show your support and 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.200 encourage more content like this is to leave a positive 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.240 review at fantasypros dot com slash MLB review. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:09.120 Let's jump right in here. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.040 The first topic you wanted to hit on this week 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.760 Drew Thorpe and Tobias Myers kind of checking in, you know, 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:16.720 and how they've been doing well. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.519 This is gonna tie. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.320 Into a listener question that I got, you know, from 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.959 one of our regular listeners earlier this week, so we'll 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:26.639 get to that kind of in the second half of this. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.760 But what was kind of your your angle with this, 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.120 just kind of checking and seeing on the fact that 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:33.160 they've been pitching well. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.799 Yeah, so kind of wanted to talk about them a 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.560 little bit for two different reasons. One, you know, Drew 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:43.000 Thorpe is a pretty hyped prospect and you know, the 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.280 only drawback to him is that he's on the White Sox. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.280 He's on just the worst team in the world. And 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:52.359 Tobias Myers not necessarily as much like Pedigree. I actually 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.560 one of the shows you missed. I remember it was 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.960 like when he was first getting called up, and I 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.359 actually joked with whoever was on at the time. I 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.240 think it may have been Tuma. I can't remember if 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:04.520 it was Tuma or Kelly, but it was one of 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.120 those two. And when we were picking their two star 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.600 pitcher for the week, I was like, Tobias Myers is 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.320 available if you want it, if you want to take him, 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.440 like for worm, just like expecting him to come up 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.600 and struggle because he doesn't have the most sterling record 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.320 in the miners, but I have sense picked him up 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.519 and dropped him like four or five times, especially because 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.560 he's had a couple two start weeks in there and 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.960 he's quietly pitched pretty well, like not dominant, but like 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.400 pretty solid numbers, and I'm just going to kind of 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.520 get your opinion and see if if you have any 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.480 interest the rest of season. And then Drew Thorpe been 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.440 a little up and down, not a ton of strikeouts, 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.920 but also just like looks like a major league pitcher 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.440 at twenty three years old, not on the best team, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.520 expected numbers like not as good. But he's another person 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.520 I picked up recently in a league where I had 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.240 a bunch of pitching injuries, and I'm just kind of 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.440 streaming him for now. And it happens to be a 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:57.480 league where there's there's some keeper aspects there, and so 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.560 maybe we'll see how the second half goes. Maybe you know, 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:05.400 he's a young keeper pitcher I can have on my team. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.440 I like the idea of Thorpe who I'll start with at, 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:09.960 you know, in terms of like a keeper or a 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:13.600 dynasty format more obviously given the prospect pedigree he was 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.880 thirty seventh on MLB pipeline. 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.480 Coming into this season, you know, a good picture. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.880 It's I'm really curious to see what's gonna happen with 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:26.080 the strikeouts, because he was a strikeout pitcher in you know, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.719 the Miners. He led the miners in strikeouts in twenty 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.440 twenty three, and he is not doing the same thing 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.200 so far the Biders, and I know to step up 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.599 in competition, but only nineteen strikeouts in thirty two and 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.320 two thirds innings. It's pretty stark, especially in fantasy, like 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.760 even setting aside, you know what he's doing for the 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.840 White Sox like that's kind of a tough pill to swallow. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.119 Ev as a fantasy manager, you know, he's He's only 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.960 started six games three poin fifty eight ERA one. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.520 Or four way up. Like, I think he's a good pitcher. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.960 The situation is not going to get better this year 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:02.320 for sure, and I think my interest in him is 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:07.080 solely determined upon my confidence in whether or not the 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.479 strikeouts will come. Because I know he has a three 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.440 to one record through six starts. I don't expect him 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.560 to win a lot of games with Chicago, obviously, especially 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.159 if they sell off even more, you know, as we 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.560 get to the trade deadline. I think he'll be He'll 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.719 give you a DC ERA and you know, ratios, and 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.440 he'll give it a decent whip, but without strikeouts and with 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:29.000 what I expect to be without wins, I think it's tough. 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:30.800 The listener question that I. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.839 Alluded to was if I was on team Drew Thorpe 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.440 or team Christian Scott. I'm curious your opinion on that 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.120 as well. Like personally, I would say Scott, I know 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.680 he hasn't lit the world on fire. His ERA is 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.240 like a half front higher than Thorpe's, his whips about 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.680 the same. He's also not even striking out a batter 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.200 per inning. I was really one over about Christian Scott 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.159 from our conversation with Tuma earlier in the season on 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.240 the show, I was on with him, so I picked 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:57.640 him up in a lot of places, and I've been 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.040 holding on to him even through getting sent back. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.600 Out of the minors. I don't know what his role 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:01.800 in the. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.520 Rotation is even going to be in the second half, 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.600 but just in terms of like if they're both up 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.279 in the big leagues and starting, I prefer Christian Scott 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.680 to be on my roster for this season at least. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.520 He's a couple of years older than Thorpe as well. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.440 Before we get to Myers, I'm curious what you think 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.880 about that comparison between Thorpe and Scott. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.960 Yeah, I think if we're talking like dynasty or long term, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.599 I think it's a different question. I think this year 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.760 it's it's Christian Scott, no brainer, as long as he 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.520 stays up. And like you said, you know, Tuma is 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.120 someone who's really bullish on christ and Scott, and I've 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:32.960 known Tuma long enough to know that, Like, if he's 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.120 bullish on a prospect, I need to pay attention. Sometimes 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.599 he's a little early on prospects, but like over time, 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.120 his takes are usually like kind of spot on, he 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:43.880 knows what he's talking about. With a lot of these 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.760 up and comers, even someone like Mackenzie Gore who was 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.240 kind of like up and down, he was bullish on 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.120 him for a long time, even when he was like struggling, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.120 and now we've kind of seen him turn the corner, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:53.919 even though it's not as consistent as we want it 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.440 to be. A real quick note on the Thorpe strikeouts, 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.640 I do think you're going to see some improvement there 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.360 because it's kind of just been like two starts that 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.240 are that are dragging that down. Because when he first 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.280 when it first came up, he went five innings, four strikeouts, 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.680 and then his second start he kind of got lit 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.520 up three and the third seven earn runs, zero strikeouts, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.280 and then after that it was like six innings, five strikeouts, 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.360 six innings, four strikeouts, six innings six and third five 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.040 strike outs. And then this last start, which a good 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.120 one quality start, six innings, turn runs, but only one strikeout, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.440 and so almost like on his other starts, it's almost 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.200 a strike up ranning. It's really just those two starts 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.640 kind of dragging it down. And so I think as 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.280 he adjusts. You'll see that point. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.640 Yeah, it's it's a good point. 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.320 I mean, it is important to remember we're talking about 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.280 a small samples syze, right, So on the one hand, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.160 it's like, okay, one out of every three starts, he's 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.720 not striking anybody out. But on the other hand, it's 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:44.640 been six starts. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.920 Yeah, but I do I do like Christian Scott more 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.320 than him, especially if you look at just kind of 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.720 like the last year of Christian Scott, like you see, 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.720 like he made it up to hig A dominated, he 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.400 made it up to Double A dominated, he made it 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.960 up to Triple A dominated, and so now he's kind of, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.440 you know, he's still only he's twenty five years old, 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.720 but like he he hasn't been a professional pitcher like 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.280 in in you know, in professional baseball, like you know, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.160 he's someone who hasn't been in the major in the 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.600 minor leagues for a long time, and so he's still 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.400 like this is his first taste in the majors, and 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.920 he's kind of like not been given the most consistent 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.960 role with the Mets, where they could have probably been 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.360 a little bit better with how they promoted him. And 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.000 so I think you'll see him kind of write the 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.520 ship as long as they continue to give him consistent opportunities. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.360 I wonder how much because he has not had as 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.600 many professional innings as Thorpe, even though Thorpe is younger, 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.160 like Christian Scott is somebody who I don't I believe 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:43.520 he has not topped ninety innings in the season. 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.720 Even including like going into the minors. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.959 I might be misremembering that, whereas Drew Thorpe through I 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:50.960 think it was like one hundred and forty innings last year, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.640 you know, at the minor league level, so it's different. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.600 But like you know, even with the White Sox being 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.120 young and having no incentive to like kind of push 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.760 their young arms further than I need to go, like, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.840 you would think there's plenty of runway here for Drew 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.320 Thorpe this season where and also who else is going 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.120 to be in that rotation, you know, especially if like 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.520 Krische is pitching less or traded. So you know, I 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:18.240 think Thorpe likely has the more secure role based on 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.200 what we've seen to date. I would love to see 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.719 them both have secure roles in the second half and 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.240 kind of see what happens there, like I do. I do, 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.640 like Christian Scott a slight bit better for this season, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.440 but I think it's a good It's a good question 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.000 to be asked, and to the point of the question 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.400 being asked on MLB pipelines like updated Top one hundred, 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.559 Drew Thorpe thirty seventh prospect in baseball, Christian Scott thirty eighth, 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.959 So that's just one ranking, but literally back to back. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:44.960 In that one. 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.840 So I think Dynasty, I want Thorpe over over Christian Scott. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.520 Personally, I agree Dynasty. I totally agree. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.760 I don't think it's a massive gap, but I definitely 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.440 I mean, he's two years younger. Let alone, you know 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.160 the track record, and you know the White Sox aren't 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:06.559 going to be rubbish forever at least we think as 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.640 far as Myers goes like obviously doesn't quite have the 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.040 same like, you know, level of pedigree. He's drafted back 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:15.719 in twenty sixteen by by Baltimore Orioles, so he's been 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.600 kind of like a miner's name that I've been like 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.200 aware of for a while, never particularly like excited about. 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.480 He's got a three thirteen ERA this season, though at 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.120 sixty two strikeouts and seventy two innings, also under a 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:26.920 strike at an inning. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:27.880 His whip is. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:31.880 One point one three six and three record, you know, 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:36.120 on a better team, better opportunity for wins than the 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.920 White Sox, which could be said of anybody on any 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:40.680 team other than the White Sox. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.440 But yeah, like, like I don't he's not something that 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.280 I really roster in a lot of places. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.280 Like he's somebody that I have been hesitant to be 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.080 like gung ho about and just have been beaten to 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.080 the punch by other people who were kind of willing 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.320 to make that pick up earlier and say they think, 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.000 you know, it's legit. He's obviously coming off just two 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:07.640 days ago a terrific start, you know, eight innings, four hits, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:13.080 no runs, six strikeouts. That was against the Pirates. I 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:14.560 believe that that was the best start of the season. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.240 Right I'm looking at this game, I'm like, not forgetting it. 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.720 I would imagine again, I would imagine. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:22.000 So yeah, so like seemingly getting better as the season 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.600 has gone on, obviously, right, like, particularly in June was 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.679 his best month. And now you know he gave a 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.640 four and runs and his other start in July, but 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.400 one of the two July starts very strong. So yeah, 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.839 I mean, I think he's certainly worth like rostering. Like 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.120 I said, I was kind of beating to the punch 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.480 in a lot of areas, and I don't have him rostered. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.800 He's somebody that like I wouldn't be like. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.680 Going out to like aggressively trade for or anything like that. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.000 I'm not giving up the farm to go at him 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.520 and think he's some future ace or anything. But like 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.560 I think he's a perfectly cromulent fantasy starting fish. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.400 I'm glad you're working that word into your vocabulary. And 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:57.760 now it looks like he had one other star where 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.600 he went eight innings, one hit, three walks by strikeouts, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.120 like another eight inning game it was against takers, and 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.319 his worst start recently was at course Field, which you 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:07.800 can kind of give him a pass for that. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:09.559 Good point. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.319 I think, I agree. I don't think he's someone like that. 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.360 You have him, yeah, you don't think you like need 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.719 to roster him rest of season. But he's someone who 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.319 I'm just kind of like streaming and riding for a 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.400 little while. Like even I just picked him up and 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.319 again in another league where I need pitching volume, and 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.000 I wanted him for a two start week and a 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.400 lot of those times, I'm just turning that roster spot. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.000 This time, I picked him up for the two start week, 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.280 and then I just moved him to my bench for 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:33.880 a week, Like I didn't want to drop him, but 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.040 let me just let me just leave him on the mention. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:37.520 Of course I missed, you know, one of his best 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.160 starts ever, I missed the starting inspireds. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.000 Yeah, I think that's kind of a fine approach to 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.719 him as of right now. We'll see what happens in 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.839 the second half. Let's get to our next topic here. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.559 It's a quick one. Just Zach Wheeler, you know, came 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.439 out of the game after excuse me, five innings and 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.640 seventy something pitch is thrown. So I wasn't watching the game, 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.320 but I have him in like my kind of most 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.559 important Dynasty League, So I was keeping an eye on 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.640 the stats, and I was wondering why he was taken 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:08.080 out of the game, and was obviously nervous about an injury, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:09.840 and then saw after the game that, yeah, he had 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.880 back tightness. They did do an MRI, came back negative. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.120 They weren't sure at first if he was even going 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.000 to miss a start, but then they did determine yesterday 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.240 that he would not make his start, so he's no 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.840 longer a two star pitcher this week, and they're gonna 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.559 rest huntil after the All Star break. So again, the 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.120 MRI did come back negative, which is obviously a good sign. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.880 They're not talking about it as like some severe issue. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.160 The All Star break is well timed for this. I 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.600 don't know if they're gonna start off to second, you know, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.840 the second half after the All Star break with him 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.240 atop the rotation, or if they maybe give him even 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.560 a couple of extra days beyond that as they get. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:47.880 Into the turns of the rotation. So it remains to 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:48.079 be seen. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.880 It's definitely something worth paying attention to because he was 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.680 in that conversation last week as there's basically four true 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:53.760 aces and he's. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:54.200 One of them. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.800 And so when a guy like that gets pulled from 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.080 a game early and is missing a start, it's worth 0:13:59.080 --> 0:13:59.640 talking about. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.320 Yeah, and it doesn't I think the All Star game 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.280 timing is is kind of key here. I think that 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.040 probably played end of their decision just to give him 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.920 a break, because like they're de facto putting them on 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.439 the injured list without having to put him on the 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.400 injured list by just you know, skipping a start, then 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.280 you get the All Star break. Then, like you said, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.040 maybe you don't even start him right out of the gate. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.480 Maybe you you know, pitch him third, fourth, fifth, coming 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.040 out of the gate. You've essentially given him, you know, 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.040 a full two weeks off. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.840 This might be a tom question. I probably should know 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.080 the answer if he was on. If they put him 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:37.360 on like the IL would the All Star break, days 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.800 they would count towards the number of days he has 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:40.760 to stay on the IL. 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:41.080 Right. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.560 I feel like if you didn't ask me this on air, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.520 I would know the answer. But since we're on air, 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.480 I think it's just days in baseball, it's not games, 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:52.560 So I think it's fine. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.160 Yeah, I mean, I mean that's right. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:55.280 I just didn't know if the All Star Break was 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:56.920 different because there's no games going on. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:57.800 I think it's just days. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.400 But I don't. I don't see why it would be. 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.400 The reason, and I asked is to say, like, well, 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.600 why not just put him on the IL then and 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.600 get another player on the roster if he's not going 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:07.800 to pitch for that number of days. 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.280 Anyway, it's good. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.040 It's a fair question. You have to ask them. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:16.080 Yeah, I'll just go ahead and call them up anyways, 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.600 it's more just somebody to keep an eye on. He again, 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.760 he is missing the start this weekend, so that's not nothing. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.160 It's gonna hurt me in my in my league with 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:24.640 him where I had him as a two star pitcher. 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.760 But hopefully it's nothing. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.120 And we get to next weekend and he's looking like 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:31.920 the Ace that we know. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.760 He can be. All right. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.360 Next topic here, speaking of aces, I wanted to ask 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:43.040 you did we mess up not including Justin Steele in 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.880 last week's conversation about Aces? For those who might have 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.040 missed last week's episode, we kind of checked in on 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.880 who are the actual fantasy aces, not the top twelve 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.720 guys that are technically sp ones, but who are the 0:15:55.760 --> 0:16:00.480 true fantasy aces? And unsurprisingly, perhaps we lean there's just 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.800 four of them, and we threw out a couple of names, 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.400 and obviously the four Corbyn Burns, Zach Wheeler, Tarik Skuball 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.520 and Tyler Glass Now and we threw out a couple 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.280 of names as just quick like who could be in 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.240 this category in the second half the season, We talked 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:19.320 about Garrett Cole obviously health permitting, you know, Paul Skean's innings, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:24.120 permitting has as good a case as anybody right now, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.400 and I'm wondering if maybe we should have been talking 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:33.160 about Justin Steele as well. He has been fantastic ever 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.600 since when he came back. So you know, he made 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.400 it start on March twenty eighth, then he was on 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:38.840 il till May sixth, so. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:39.920 We missed all of April. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.200 In those first four starts, he went four and two 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.120 thirds only give up, you know, give up zero runs, 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.640 but didn't complete five innings. He went four innings, give 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.400 up six runs, five and two thirds gave up four runs, 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.160 six and a third gave up five runs. Since then, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.720 so since May twenty seventh, which was his next start, 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.440 after those first four back where he was really iffy, 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:03.040 he has been fantastic. He's made nine starts in that stretch, 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.359 sixty one innings, fifty eight strikeouts. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.560 A one forty eight er. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.720 He's just like not giving up runs and it's been consistent. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.040 It's not carried by just a couple of good outings. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.320 He has not given up more than three earned runs 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.720 in any of those starts. Every one of those except 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.280 for one, has been a quality start, and the one 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.080 that wasn't a quality start, he only gave up one 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:24.480