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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling, Rayvalry, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good.

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Speaker 1: Stella McCartney, Mary Stella and Mary Stella and Mary Mary

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Speaker 1: Stella and Mary McCartney, Mary McCartney. You know, it's funny

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Speaker 1: because you know way better than I, but how many

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Speaker 1: different English accents there actually are? There's so many. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's so many. Yeah, I mean every every little nook

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Speaker 1: and cranny of England has a different type of accent.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. The girls, actually, the girls, you know,

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Speaker 1: Stella and Mary have some American influence in their accent.

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Speaker 1: So there are certain things that Stella will say that

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Speaker 1: I know. And I watch religiously The Great British Bake Off,

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Speaker 1: so I just love the show. Watch the British Baking

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Speaker 1: Show show and hey, what's happening? Your life? Gives me anxiety? Like, no,

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Speaker 1: wonder your dogs give me anxiety. Maybe that's the problem. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're keeping this in because I want everyone to just

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Speaker 1: experience what I'm experiencing. But anyway, so the Great British

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Speaker 1: Baking Show Love and everyone. Yes, everyone has a different

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Speaker 1: accent and some of these some of these people. This

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Speaker 1: one woman in the last one, I couldn't even understand her.

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Speaker 1: But she I think she was from Liverpool. Oh yeah, Liverpool.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. Anyway, all this to say that I

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Speaker 1: fully understood Stella and Mary McCartney one clear and everything

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Speaker 1: makes Holy shit, this is unacceptable. This is an unacceptable

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Speaker 1: introduction from my best friend. I mean, she's like my

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Speaker 1: best friend. The good thing is is we are going

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Speaker 1: to keep this in because she'll get a kick out

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Speaker 1: of this. But so let me just talk while person

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Speaker 1: Oliver's doing this. So Stella and I've known each other.

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Speaker 1: I met Stella when I was like eighteen, and we

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Speaker 1: became really fast, wonderful friends, and we've been friends ever since.

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Speaker 1: And I was so excited to interview her and Mary,

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Speaker 1: and of course I've had over the last two decades,

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Speaker 1: had a mad back, amazing times with the girls. But Mary.

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Speaker 1: I really didn't meet Mary until she did a photo

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Speaker 1: shoot with me when I was doing when Stella was

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Speaker 1: launching her lingerie, and that's when I met Mary, and

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Speaker 1: she's just so wonderful and lovely and the whole family

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Speaker 1: is truly amazing. So it's really nice. It was nice

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Speaker 1: to talk to them together about what it was like

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Speaker 1: growing up. And yeah, I was scared that sort of.

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Speaker 1: I was scared to ask any real questions. And I

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Speaker 1: like I had to work my way in there, because

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Speaker 1: you guys are all so tight, you know, and it

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Speaker 1: was all this answer. I'm like, God, what do I do?

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Speaker 1: Like yesterday? My boaly? But Ollie, you know what was

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Speaker 1: amazing was we realized that you guys had never met.

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Speaker 1: It was like so weird. I mean, we have like

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Speaker 1: real memories of friendships, Della and I, and like the

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Speaker 1: fact that you guys have never met is so crazy

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Speaker 1: and kind of just validates how I have this like

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Speaker 1: other weird life somewhere else. You know. It's like across

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Speaker 1: the pond that you never come to Europe, you never

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Speaker 1: come to England, no, no way, And I have this

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Speaker 1: whole weird life over there that you've never seen. I know,

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Speaker 1: day it was like Penalan and that is in that

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Speaker 1: whole world. So we talked about growing up on their

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Speaker 1: their lives, and they moved around a lot. You know.

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Speaker 1: It was sort of like they had this really simple

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Speaker 1: very I mean, like you said, you know, we come from,

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Speaker 1: just crazy. But there seems so cool, well adjusted. They're

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Speaker 1: Ollie why don't you introduce Stella and Mary McCartney Blackbers. Okay, ladies,

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Speaker 1: welcome to our podcast. This is really fun for me.

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Speaker 1: So for context, you guys are so cute. So for context,

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Speaker 1: Stella and I have known each other. We met. Actually,

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Speaker 1: do you remember the first time we met? If we

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Speaker 1: both are on the same reality. In my view, it

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Speaker 1: it and there was an after party. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: the after party. I don't remember that because I was

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Speaker 1: so completely blown away that David Bowie had given me

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Speaker 1: was like, Dave, were allowed to actually use blasphem music.

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Speaker 1: It was a double whammy. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I remember much after that, but I remember well we

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Speaker 1: went to a party. The after party, Anthony Hopkins had

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Speaker 1: a rave on the Queen taking a dump and I

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Speaker 1: was so embarrassed. We went. There was an after party.

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Speaker 1: I forget where it was. It was the Queen's New

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Speaker 1: York apartment. We have to name as many people as

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Speaker 1: we can in this story. It was, No, it was

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the Queen of England. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about queen, the Queen in England. Yes, so the

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Speaker 1: Queen was there, No, So so we went. It was

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Speaker 1: remember walking in after this the whole thing, and you

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Speaker 1: were standing there with Keith Richards in the doorway, checking

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Speaker 1: people's clothes as they walked in, feeling them, growing for

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Speaker 1: remember that moment? Oh? Oh, I remember. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing? You're like, I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling everybody's clothes, feeling you, and you go and leave

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Speaker 1: the party. At that stage, I ran out changed. But

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Speaker 1: that's where we first met, and then from then on

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Speaker 1: we've been friends forever. Oh yeah, I mean I've heard

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Speaker 1: of you guys forever. I've never just i've never met.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why we really did

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Speaker 1: and deeper. It's true. We had a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun, a lot of fun nights, days, a

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Speaker 1: then I met Mary. Mary, do you remember when we

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Speaker 1: first met? You're not people. I don't What I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about is one of my favorite cake moments is

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Speaker 1: when we One of the last times we all met

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Speaker 1: was when Stellar and I flew over and we were

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Speaker 1: going to Coachella, that epic weekend where Dad was playing,

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Speaker 1: and slow. Well, the first time we met was when

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Speaker 1: we did a photo shoot. Yeah we have actual yes,

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Speaker 1: and that's said in the Bulkley Hotel and we were like,

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Speaker 1: we were repeat playing wait that's when you first met? Well, No,

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Speaker 1: I met you before in New York. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 1: the first time we like connected. Yeah, we met basically naked.

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Speaker 1: I was naked. I was like, let's get to know

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Speaker 1: I'm not a little bit bummed that you haven't met us? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am. And if you get a chance, you should

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Speaker 1: photograph me naked rolling around because by radio Head on repeat,

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Speaker 1: because that's listally the only song we play the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, So do you do have you done

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Speaker 1: men's underwear yet and then study you can style him? No,

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Speaker 1: do an NFP underwear for me. Oh that's good is

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Speaker 1: how we should praise it. Well, guys, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: So we always start asking with asking about where you

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Speaker 1: very iconic story. Your father, Paul McCartney, married your beautiful mother, Linda.

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Speaker 1: Linda is American American? And did you always consider yourself

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Speaker 1: I had. Yeah, what ages did you do that? I

427
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: have fourteen, eleven and eight. That's all they are now. Yeah,

428
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: so it was early ages. It was a little earlier,

429
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: and it was it was incredible. I mean, it's just

430
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: that freedom, that independence, that you do not have to

431
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: worry about them. They don't have to worry about themselves.

432
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: They get to feel what it's like to be alone

433
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: and deal with them. Get bored, but don't you're also fine.

434
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean that tastes uch fools and I'm so annoyed

435
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: at myself. I haven't got the bullocks to just go

436
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: and especially enough to when we can do everything on

437
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: zoom like we don't have to do it so like

438
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: it makes me think even more how our parents really

439
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: like special Special you know, all four of us speaking though,

440
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 1: the bonuses that we had to charge in without the

441
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: phones and being contact all the time. We could go

442
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: out like YouTube, could go out, play around and come

443
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: back when you were hungry and that nobody really watching you,

444
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: and so we did. We did have that growing up.

445
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: And Stella and I in Scotland, we would go out

446
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: in the morning and we just literally walk. You and

447
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: I would build camps together, we'd collect things we'd made, games,

448
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: sulf out and there are great memories and that's what

449
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: makes us so close. Like I was on a photo

450
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: shoot in Scotland and I saw a flower that reminded

451
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: me of Stella, and I took a picture and sent

452
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: it and she knew was like, I don't need say

453
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: a thing. I was with this person. I was like, wait,

454
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to get response back immediately when she's like

455
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: on like last thing, and it just takes you right

456
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: back to that moment just looking at one flower. So

457
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: how did your parents actually meet? They met My mom

458
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: mother was a photographer, professional photographer and pretty much started

459
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone Magazine. They madly am my young her work.

460
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: First woman to have a cover of Rolling Stone Magazine,

461
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: Linda McCartney. So they were Dad mom mom had taken

462
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: pictures do you know the the Animals Pass the Rising

463
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: Sun that song? Yeah, the Mom I know the story,

464
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: but it was when I became a photographer. I sat

465
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: mom dan and I like interviewed her about her career

466
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: because suddenly you care about what I'm like, Oh, I've

467
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: never paid any attention to her. We were like, she

468
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: made it live so easy, and then it was like,

469
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: hang on, I need to ask you. But anyway, they

470
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: were she was in she had done a photo shoot

471
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: of the animals in New York and then she was

472
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: in London on a photo assignment and they Eric Burdon

473
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: said from the Animal said when you're in London, I'll

474
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: take you out, and she took because they all fancied

475
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: the pants with Mum. They won New Yorker like she

476
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: was this kind of Amazonian like it was like who

477
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: are you? Where are you from? Like natural make up,

478
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: New York accent, and they hadn't really counted many of

479
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: those didn't. Yeah, and she just in love with with

480
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: rock and roll and and just by an amazing photographer.

481
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: So they took her to the animals took her to

482
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: a club called The Bag of Nails in London, and

483
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: Solo and Dad tells the Bacanels, the bag of the

484
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: bag Bagel Baganels. And then he said he was sort

485
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: of sitting in the club, like on a balcony, and

486
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: he looked down across and he could see this blonde

487
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: woman and she just really caught his eye. And she

488
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: was there and they obviously were playing eye contact games

489
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: with each other. And then then they said, you know,

490
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: they were in this club. Then then she got up

491
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: to leave, and he said, I was like, she was leaving,

492
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: so I had to like take my moment. He stood

493
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: up and sort of stood in the in the way

494
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: and said, Hi, I'm Paul. Like well, they introduced each other,

495
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: and he was like that cute. You imagine that blocking

496
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 1: her Pultey in the period that you're talking about, by

497
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: the way, because she's pregnant with Mary in the Get

498
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: Back documentary. So just picture back for McCartney blocking your way.

499
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't be weird, but with the eyelashes, Oh my god,

500
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: he was hot. He was hottish. I was like, I

501
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 1: never thought about it like that, Paul until I saw him.

502
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: It was just like I was like, God, he is

503
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: so put together en handsome. Yeah, I would have made

504
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: love to him back then the technology he used that

505
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: because that's sixteen mil film and you clear it up,

506
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: and so they all look like, oh, it's so amazing.

507
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: You can see it differently. You feel like you're actually there,

508
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: such a different experience. Okay, So then they meet at

509
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: Bag of Nales and then how many years later is

510
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: she pregnant with the first? Now? Wait, Heather? Heather? She

511
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: had to do. She had Heather, and then they were

512
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: she was in hel when then eventually she moved over Okay,

513
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: and then you or how many years later were you

514
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: born after they met you? I was born at six

515
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: whole illegal minute, like immediately pregnant after Bag and Nales,

516
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: like six months later baby in the oven. I think

517
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: we met sixty seven. And then she went back to

518
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: America and then they came back and then she moved Okay,

519
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: so it was a couple of years later. I thought

520
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: it was I know nothing, That's why I'm married talking.

521
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: So you were do you remember when Stella was born?

522
00:29:53,600 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Next two little red hair are coming out? Like DNA

523
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: has always been dramatic because when she was born, Mum

524
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: had like she had to have an emergency staring because

525
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: she was placenta. The placenta was in the way, so

526
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: one of some modern technology, my little sister wouldn't be here. Mom. Yeah, yeah,

527
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: I was emergency C I like hat and died because

528
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: I was in there too long and I took a

529
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: dumb maconium was in the fluid. I had masperation. He

530
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: was in icy UK not making a T shirt that

531
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: says the longer your almost almost as a critical addition

532
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: to what was your first memory of Stella Mary? When

533
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: we shared a bedroom. We were shared we were in

534
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: London and we shared the bedroom. And it's my memories

535
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: are literally as they carried on. They started as they

536
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: meant to go, and we were in a bed near

537
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: next to each other, and we would just talk and

538
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: then we would run around together, and if one of

539
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: us had to go to the bathroom, we'd wait the

540
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: other one up and we'd run into the bathrooms together

541
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: and keep witches on the bed. There were witches on

542
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: to our bird. Let should jump off the bird? Did

543
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: you were? I still have witches round. I am the

544
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: witch in my bed. She goes under her own bed

545
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: for her. And then we were always that close. And

546
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: then and then we went through like on more teens

547
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: kind of competitive years, but we still shared friends. And

548
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: then when Mom died, I would say, all of the

549
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: many of that competitive kind of rivalry thing, Well, were

550
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: you guys always really close or was there that moment

551
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: where it was close and then there was a separation

552
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: because of that competitive spirit? It didn't there was there was?

553
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: What it was was well. So we went to the

554
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: country when I was about five, and we we Mum

555
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: and Dad basically were strange creatures and they chose to

556
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: just do the exact opposite of what one would expect.

557
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: So we went to Scotland and we lived in a

558
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: house basically as big as the room that we're in,

559
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: which is not a massive room, all six of us,

560
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: one toilet, you know, like all of the four children

561
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: at that stage, in one room, bunk beds, you know.

562
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: And so we moved from London and we moved to

563
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: a round house in the middle of the forest in

564
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: the south of England, and we shared the bedroom, me

565
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: and Mary and our other sister, Heather, and our youngest

566
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: brother lived in a plot in the dining room and

567
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, you bump your head in the morning and

568
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Why am I telling you this? Oh,

569
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: at least that what happened was not only did we

570
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: get to a stage where we I think we just

571
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: all lived on top of each other. So Mary became

572
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: like fourteen fifteen, sixteen, and how do I friends? And

573
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: I was like can I be your friends? Can I

574
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: be in your gang? And it was just like no,

575
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: back off, you're really annoying and these are my friends

576
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: and these are my clothes, and they're still all your friends,

577
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: but then they're all my But I remember, so we

578
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: never separated harsh kind of competitiveness at at that age.

579
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: It was just like no, you can't borrow my jeans.

580
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: That was but that was partial enough for me. And

581
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: then like typical sibling like this is just an ill

582
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: designed get out of my staff, ye you, and then

583
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: you'll want my jeans. But then then I think there

584
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: was probably when we both started to find our careers.

585
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: I think unspoken you don't really talk about, there was

586
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: probably a bit of a sense for like, you know,

587
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: then I went to Martin's, I was in London, you

588
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: were in London, and we were both kind of a

589
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: bit you know, we would have a bit of a

590
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: thing where I had I was doing fashion, started to do.

591
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Never we never felt I never fell out, but I

592
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: think you secretly a bit and you went to the taking.

593
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's true. I think we've always supported each

594
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: other very much, So not such a shot those in

595
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: my career, my young campaigns, early campaigns. Yeah, she did

596
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: some of my best campaigns. Oh cool. It's good fun

597
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: when we work together because you know, we're both quite

598
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: tough on ourselves. We're like, anything you do, you want

599
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: to do it better. We're like, did I do it?

600
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: You know? So, so with Stella, it wasn't like, oh,

601
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm taking pictures for Stella. It was like a proper shoe.

602
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: It was like she has a client. She would always

603
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: let you as an artist, as a photographer, go further

604
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: than most other people would like. She'd let it be

605
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: dark and you didn't have to overlight things, and it

606
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have to show the clothes off so much. It

607
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: can be a vibe. So I've always loved working with Stell.

608
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: I just think it's really fun too because Stella, you know,

609
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: from my perspective as well, and probably the same because

610
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean we were right out of high was right

611
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: out of high school, and we were so little, and

612
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: but like the love for the art of like fashion.

613
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: I mean it was always like you were always doing it.

614
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: You were always in an interestry, you were always looking

615
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: at old lace, like I remember being in Paris with Stella.

616
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: We were like vintage shopping, Like no matter where we were,

617
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: you were always creating, even before these were Chloe days. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

618
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: What was nice is that first campaign we did together

619
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: with Kate Moss. We used mom. I used Mom's polaroid.

620
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: I had ten by eight moms ten by a camera

621
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: and we had old Polaridge failure, so the psychoproper. But

622
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: I remember actually doing that shoot. You did that shoot

623
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: with another majesty double page spread that's double Pay with

624
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Chris Chris. Yeah, wow, that was very amazing photo. I'm

625
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: obsessed without her. I've been obsessed without her known. I've

626
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: been obsessed with Kelly Slater just in general for a

627
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: long time. I don't want Kelly Slater his wife to

628
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: be upset with me, but I do call Kelly and

629
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: my boyfriend in the house. I know, I know, he's

630
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: an incredible dude. I mean, he's just won. I think

631
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: it was Pipe Masters. I mean at age fifty or

632
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: fifty one, it's crazy fifty looks great. He looks hot.

633
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: So not only is Kelly Slater hot. We love this

634
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: brand of clothes. I love what he's doing with it.

635
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: He is very focused on sustainability and that's his mission.

636
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: You know, when you love the ocean and you're in

637
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: it all the time, I think you really look around,

638
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: You're like, I can't believe how careless people are and

639
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: how they trash our waters. And so he's decided to,

640
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Speaker 1: Do you do you remember your first piece? Like, would

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Speaker 1: you have that first piece that you ever designed? I

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Speaker 1: don't know where it is if I remember it. I

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Speaker 1: And even then it was the first way so it

699
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Speaker 1: a very eighties bomber jacket and like sund paint looked

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Speaker 1: like it and reversible and you you you made it,

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Speaker 1: I mean you made it yourself. And yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: someone you know. The thing is is, there's very few

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Speaker 1: people you know that have like talked to talk, walk

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Speaker 1: to walk from the very beginning. And like the foundation

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Speaker 1: of your guys is life food, the kitchen, organic farm,

708
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Speaker 1: being a vegetarian, uh, incorporating that into your world, into

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Speaker 1: your business, all the environmental stuff. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about how your mom created that for you guys. What

711
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Speaker 1: was that like as a kid and did you reject it?

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Speaker 1: Were there moments where you were like I want to

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Speaker 1: be like every other kid you know, No, Mom loved

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Speaker 1: cooking in the home, the kitchen the part of the

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Speaker 1: home like classically, and when they became vegetarian, they sat

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Speaker 1: us down. They were like, we're going to become vegetarian.

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Speaker 1: And because we were eating lamb and we looked out

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Speaker 1: and we still stand in Scotland and we've like connected

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Speaker 1: that we were eating lamb, but we were looking at

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Speaker 1: cute lambs. So they were like, look, we don't want

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Speaker 1: to cook. Moms like, I don't want to cook me

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Speaker 1: if anymore. And so then Dad was like, we were like,

723
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Speaker 1: what do you do? Then there's a hole on the plate.

724
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Speaker 1: What are we going to eat? So we've grown up

725
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Speaker 1: as a family always discussing that and I think Mum,

726
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Speaker 1: I think that was the great thing about her, great

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Speaker 1: hook and you know we both meant to watching her.

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Speaker 1: And Mary now has someone, you know plant based TV

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Speaker 1: show that you've been on, I've been on and on,

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Speaker 1: but you I should nearly died have to wear that

731
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Speaker 1: T shirt for it is plant based. Yeah, it is, well, well,

732
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Speaker 1: it depends on at the time. At the time in

733
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: the womb, it was definitely as well live it that way.

734
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: It's like it takes right, it's vegan ship. Yeah, So

735
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. It was always the heart of

736
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Speaker 1: the home and so food was like we were pitching.

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Speaker 1: It was the you know wen, it was everything, and

738
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Speaker 1: you know it's funny. I found a photograph the other

739
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Speaker 1: day me is that probably I'm one year, I'm not

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Speaker 1: even one and Mums in Scotland over the cooker and

741
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Speaker 1: she's leaning over looking in the other and I'm like

742
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Speaker 1: drained of that and it's just so cute. It's like

743
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Speaker 1: I'm in an all in one. It's like, but I

744
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Speaker 1: think all of that stuff it was, It's just was

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Speaker 1: the and I think we came to come from a

746
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Speaker 1: very creative family and food was creative. It was it

747
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Speaker 1: was part of the creative. It's about the necessity. It

748
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: was like creativity and no one also it's about I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, when they start standing up, we're not going

750
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Speaker 1: to eat me. I was like, okay, we're not going

751
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Speaker 1: to eat me. It's like what are we going to

752
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Speaker 1: eat them? How are we going to do it? And

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00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: that's what I love about our families. They'd be like

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Speaker 1: what are we going to have for what are we

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Speaker 1: going to have for the festive holidays? We need something

756
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Speaker 1: to slice what are we going to have for because

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00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: we never wanted to be apologetic and make it be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: to be not to equal to free means that you

759
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Speaker 1: eat taste free. That is not anything we've ever abided by. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's true. You know, not only is

761
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Speaker 1: it a creative family, but it's it's a go get

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Speaker 1: a type of family. And I think you know, Mum

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Speaker 1: created her food brand, her Vegetarian Free Bround in nineteen

764
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Speaker 1: ninety one, and again it was completely unheard of that

765
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Speaker 1: it was pretty embarrassing. It was like vegetarian sausages and vegetburgers,

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Speaker 1: none existed, but that I don't think that brand in

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Speaker 1: America that was for religious reasons like that. And so

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Speaker 1: food was not only the home of you know, the

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Speaker 1: heart of the home brought us all together and tasted

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Speaker 1: really good, but it also became a kind of point

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Speaker 1: of difference. We made fun of it. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking out and Dad were then the first celebrities on

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Speaker 1: The Simpsons that they're not I don't think so, but

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Speaker 1: they are. But anyway, that's all a bit fa to caring.

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00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: And it was like, yeah, there was always a bit

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Speaker 1: of a kind of we had to stick up for

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Speaker 1: ourselves a bit. It was like, no, you know what's

778
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Speaker 1: great now is it's not like it because it was

779
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Speaker 1: would you like for dinner? And then people are like

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Speaker 1: are you won't ever? Like why are you having to

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Speaker 1: go with me? Like I've never met me? Like we

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Speaker 1: sit next to someone, I'm not having to go at you.

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Speaker 1: But now it's very much more of a different world,

784
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Speaker 1: like you can have conversations. Were you guys ridiculed and

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00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: stuff because of it? You know, I mean you were

786
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: seriously bad food, a lot of bad food. It was

787
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: like vegetes and like, you know, we don't really eat

788
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: stuffed peppers or because literally if you give us a

789
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: bad vegetable, we were like, oh really Like but it's

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Speaker 1: still you know, if you go on an airline, the

791
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: food is still like I mean, I have to say

792
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I don't think I'm but you know who

793
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Speaker 1: you are. Can't those milk It's like what is that?

794
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: How can they not turn into milks in every everywhere? Now?

795
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: Like that's nuts? Yeah, it's nuts an idea that it's

796
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: like no normal, I'll have normals? What is that like?

797
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: Even when even when like the most western western doctors

798
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: are now saying, you know what, we probably shouldn't be

799
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: drinking so much milk, and maybe maybe everybody else needs

800
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: to to have some plant based milk. Yeah, I mean,

801
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: and it's not like we're very much like we And

802
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: Mum was very good at this actually, and we both

803
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: learned a lot watching and observing. That is you don't

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00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, if you tell people what to eat and

805
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: you tell them off and you make them feel bad,

806
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: you're just going to get them in the backfoot. They're

807
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: going to hate you. They're going to get aggressive and

808
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: be defensive. So it was always like trying to just go, hey,

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Speaker 1: try this, see if you like it. Or you can say,

810
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: like my vegan shoes and my vegan bags, you would

811
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: never know that my you know, I put a mush

812
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: put the first ever mushroom leather bag on a runway

813
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Speaker 1: in March in Paris, and you would never know. It's

814
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: maybe you know, and that was a kind of secret

815
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: psychedelic mushrooms. And I think that this is also like you.

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Speaker 1: You you can lick the you can lick the bag.

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00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: Oh yes, part of this you're speaking all of us late.

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00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: But the thing is is that you you were always

819
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: like that, like there was no you weren't the friend

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00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: that was like, you know, ever getting on me for

821
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Speaker 1: eating a piece of meat or but I think you

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Speaker 1: in there. Well then tic sort of like showing how

823
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: to put something that's quick and easy. Yeah, like you

824
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 1: started when we started talking about meatless Monday years ago,

825
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, and you started the whole meatless Monday thing,

826
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: and you can back that up with scions with science

827
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: talking about the importance of taking not only a day

828
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: off meat for your own house else, but the environment.

829
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: What that does for the environment. There's so much that

830
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: leans towards more of a plant, plant based living. That's

831
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: an important thing for everyone to talk about versus it

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00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: becoming like a war between the meat eaters and the

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00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: plant based eaters because it fail to you know that

834
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: divide is better enough for me. I feel a bit less,

835
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: sort of put upon. I feel like we are able

836
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: to talk about it and not be asked judgment to

837
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: the beach other do you feel, oh yeah, yeah, to

838
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate just for a second. And it's a question.

839
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: Let's just say that meat went away, and now let's

840
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: say that we need to plant enough vegetables to sustain

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00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: life on earth as far as consumption goes. So now

842
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: we're dealing with potential pollutions. How we get how do

843
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: we have sustainable farms to feed billions of people? She

844
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: knows every technology is the savior of all of this.

845
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: You know, now you're looking at you know, growing in

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00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: small units using artificial light sources. You know this is

847
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: the technology will be the answer. And also you know,

848
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: growing in Latin order, less electricity, less people. Let you know,

849
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: not less people, not less jobs, creating new jobs, creating

850
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: new economies, not cutting down a rainforest and not killing

851
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: beautiful innocent creatures. I think that's one of the things

852
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: that gets missed. And also one things like obviously and

853
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: quite we are very passionate about this one thing that

854
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: I think gets missed on. One thing that I think

855
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: people resonates with people that perhaps a little you know,

856
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: on the fence. It's a human rights issue as much

857
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: as an animal rights issue. If you look at the

858
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: meat trade, do any of us want to work there

859
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: on a minimum wage? If not slavery? To be honest,

860
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: in some of the places in the world, I'd rather

861
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: clean out toilets in an airport quite frankly, like there

862
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: is there is a question also of human rights and

863
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: actually the disease ridden environments that people are living in.

864
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: Let alone, the billions of ministrent creatures killed, and we

865
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: don't need that many carrots. Quite frankly, we don't need

866
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: this much meat, you know, But could we eliminate the monsanto's,

867
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? From a practical point of view,

868
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: I think, for instance, the sayer that has grown on

869
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: the planet, the majority of the sayer as the land

870
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: is fed to cattle to them, So I don't think

871
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: that's the practical way of doing it. And also in

872
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: my belief when I think study too, I don't think

873
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: there is an easy answer it is. I think we

874
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: all admit not anyone doing it for the wrong reasons.

875
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: But it is a very broken food system and there's

876
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: no easy solution. So it just needs to be about

877
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: people coming together entirely and realistically. I think most everybody

878
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: that really really studies this, and you know, much more

879
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: honest than us, agrees that plant animal proteins are not

880
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: the way forward. I mean, I've never met any ox

881
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: anybody that ever says that. You know, we have a

882
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: much greater chance of living longer if we eliminate our

883
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: animal protein like that is we know that. We know

884
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: that even fish. Yeah, I mean you know you can

885
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: there's there you said. Mean the fish industry is the

886
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: most have you watched have you have you watched the

887
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh I haven't seen it. I'm running down.

888
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: It's a really good it's a really good the most

889
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: depressing effect. Oh, I mean, the the oceans are the

890
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: ocean annihilated and they are one of our greatest sources

891
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: of oxygen on this planet. I mean, I think. And

892
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: the farming of fish, I mean it is dark, dark, dark.

893
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: The problem is it's so polluted and so so sort

894
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: of Frankenstein. Now that it's a hard one, it's sort

895
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: of it all needs to become because it's about it's

896
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: about changing minds through sort of the education of health.

897
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: But it's also it's commrace. It's capitalism. I mean, that's

898
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: really what it is. Because if there was no money

899
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: in tuna fishing, then they wouldn't do it. If there

900
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: was no money in shark fins, they wouldn't do it.

901
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: So it's like you got to get to the root

902
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: of it. In a sense, you have to a place

903
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: bad industry with good industry. If we are to survive,

904
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: and we all know that, I mean, yes, all the

905
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: biggest growing, you know businesses over the last few years

906
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: it has been plant based food. You look at the

907
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, impossible boats and those are the investments that

908
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: people wish they may rather they give a damn about

909
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: the planet. Was damn about cows, you know what I mean.

910
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: So the same will happen. It will happen. Yeah, it's

911
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: just moving. It's moving in that direction. Yes, And I

912
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: think the thing is very complicated and there's so many

913
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: facts and there's no real answer, and it would just

914
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: be great if every month sort of accepted that it's

915
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: a broken system and try to figure out a really

916
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: practical because it's not that much time to get it together. Now.

917
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: As the Ris Hinds does this ravening, she does this

918
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: thing with this like you know about it, it's some

919
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: happy cows. And so it's not saying you can't drink milk,

920
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just it's finey your community house

921
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: that are president, they're allowed to be presnant. Take a

922
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: little bit of the you know, a little bit of

923
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: the you know, milk if you want it, but you

924
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: don't kill the tu Take the baby away, make it best,

925
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, you know, there's no foremost there's no antibiotics,

926
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: so it's just this is not like it doesn't make money,

927
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: but it doesn't make money and it's you know, but

928
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: that kind of way. It's the hymnsa dairy and it's run.

929
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: It's in Rutland, in England, they can't run. They can't

930
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: steal their demand because it's beautiful and it's pure, and

931
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: it's the way is where we're at. Going back to

932
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: our upbringing, those we had this incredible you know, Mum

933
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: was a great cook. So just before we became vegetarian,

934
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: she was a great cook, and then she would experiment

935
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: and we'd all talk about things and then people would

936
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: come for dinner and they'd be like, we look, if

937
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: I could eat like this, if I had a meal

938
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: like this every day, then I would eat more meat

939
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: free cooking. So eventually she ended up doing it's not amazing,

940
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: but she ended up doing cookbooks so she could just

941
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: say someone here, you can eat like this, because here's

942
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: all of our family recipes. So I think for us

943
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: that's the way sort of I find it. I find

944
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: personally that it can become quite dark and depressing thinking

945
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: about the industry, and I can't do much about that

946
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: personally except say, look, the way to do it is

947
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: by stopping demand. I think as a single person. And

948
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: so therefore we can give your recipes, we can come

949
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: up with ideas, let's talk about things, Let's get excited

950
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: about food, eating it in the right way, and try

951
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: and make it a bit more Otherwise it gets very

952
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: dooing gloom, I think. So this is an exciting one

953
00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: for me and for you. Kakee here actually part partners

954
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Speaker 1: with your yeah money into this company. That's right, That

955
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Speaker 1: is right. So Future is an app. It is an

956
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Speaker 1: app that is designed to keep people accountable to their

957
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Speaker 1: fitness program. Oliver, you want to explain, yeah, yeah, yeah,

958
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Speaker 1: So okay, Look, most people in fitness and in sports, right,

959
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Speaker 1: they've got a trainer right next to them. Everyone as

960
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Speaker 1: a coach, and this basically is putting that coach into

961
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Speaker 1: the palm of your hand. So the idea is is

962
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Speaker 1: that you know, you create an account, you follow the steps,

963
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Speaker 1: you talk about what you want to accomplish in your training.

964
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Speaker 1: They will match you to a coach which you can

965
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967
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Speaker 1: you email your coach, you text with your coach, and

968
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Speaker 1: you put together a routine based on what you want

969
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Speaker 1: to accomplish, but more important, what's available to you. Exactly

970
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Speaker 1: based on what's available to you, the resource that you have,

971
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Speaker 1: and an Apple Watch, which I love. That's like my

972
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Speaker 1: favorite part. Yeah, they send you an Apple Watch so

973
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Speaker 1: they can keep track and monitor your progress. They can

974
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975
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Speaker 1: can monitor your pulse, oxygen. You know, they really have

976
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Speaker 1: their thumb on your fitness, so it's kind of bringing

977
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Speaker 1: a human touch to digital fitness. This is really a

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979
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982
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Speaker 1: try Future dot com slash sibling. So new has launched

983
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Speaker 1: a new app called noom Mood and this is really

984
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Speaker 1: an app where you can learn to manage you know,

985
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Speaker 1: your anxieties, your stress, something that I know we all want,

986
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Speaker 1: and they have created this app to help guide you

987
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Speaker 1: to your mental wellness. Yeah, because I will say this

988
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Speaker 1: having suffered anxiety and dealing with my fourteen year old

989
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Speaker 1: right now who's going through some anxiety, you know, school

990
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Speaker 1: anxiety and whatnot. A lot of people don't know where

991
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Speaker 1: to start. You know, you have these feelings and you

992
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Speaker 1: don't know what to do with these feelings. And New

993
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Speaker 1: Mood is a great place to sort of that launch point,

994
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because sometimes it can get overwhelming,

995
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Speaker 1: and this is a really a great platform to guide you. Yeah.

996
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Speaker 1: I mean they really hold your hand. So they create

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Speaker 1: a daily curriculum. They also couple with a one on

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1001
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Speaker 1: the thing about you know, when you're looking at your

1002
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Speaker 1: mental fitness. Yes, it is like physical fitness, but you

1003
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Speaker 1: have to put it into practice, little bits at a

1004
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Speaker 1: time for you to feel the like that muscle strengthening.

1005
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Speaker 1: And I think what New Mood does is it helps

1006
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Speaker 1: you sort of better understand your relationship with stress and

1007
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1008
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1009
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Speaker 1: M dot com slash sibling. That's n o M dot

1013
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Speaker 1: com slash sibling. I want to just touch a little

1014
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: bit on when your mom was diagnosed, and I think

1015
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: it's something that a lot of unfortunately people have experience.

1016
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: But you guys were quite young. How old were you

1017
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: when your mom was diagnosed with breast cancer diamose is

1018
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: a question? In the mid twenties. Yeah, I mean she diagnosis.

1019
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: I never reways together about when she actually passed. Cella

1020
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Speaker 1: and I shared a bed that night when we found

1021
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Speaker 1: out that year I remember, I mean she passed away

1022
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: when I was twenty seven, twenty nine, and she she

1023
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Speaker 1: sadly suffered four years, five years and two years of

1024
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Speaker 1: two years. But wasn't it I felt like it was

1025
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: so much, not like for everybody it was two years,

1026
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: two years. And did that Yeah? Did that bring you

1027
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: guys really close? Yeah? I mean I think those moments,

1028
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: sadly everything is just exists. Yeah, And I think you know,

1029
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: if you don't have that. I mean, I think we

1030
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: have a thinger in our family. It's like health as well,

1031
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: and really nothing else matters. So we know, we all

1032
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: have crazy lives and we all can get riddled with anxiety,

1033
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: and you know, all these things are something tiny can

1034
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Speaker 1: just be the biggest, biggest, you know, problem of the day.

1035
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Speaker 1: And I always I think that's one thing as the family,

1036
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Speaker 1: It's like, it doesn't matter what happens, nothing compares to that.

1037
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Speaker 1: So it kind of puts things into perspective, to say

1038
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Speaker 1: the very least. And I think that it definitely brought

1039
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: us all much closer together. I think my daughter every

1040
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: now I'm just so's you know, that's just hurting me,

1041
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: you know what I am. What is interesting for us

1042
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of people is obviously we couldn't tell anyone,

1043
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Speaker 1: so that was you know, it wasn't like it is

1044
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: nowadays where people are like, actually, which is great if

1045
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: they can come out and they can talk about it

1046
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: in the public eye and they can be like that,

1047
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Speaker 1: you know, check yourself, prevent this. This has preventedive and

1048
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Speaker 1: you need to. You know, we very much went into

1049
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Speaker 1: a kind of closed the doors. Nobody's could know, do

1050
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: you know it? It was a very kind of fragile moment,

1051
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: but also there was like nobody, you couldn't tell anyone,

1052
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: So I was at work, you know, we were just

1053
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: carrying on as if nothing was happening, which is really yeah,

1054
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: when she passed, I mean just internally, like obviously I

1055
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: know how sad I was, but you know, of course,

1056
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: but like, how did you guys, like was there was

1057
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: there a moment where it was like because it so

1058
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: soon for to feel like the torch was passed, you know,

1059
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Speaker 1: But did that kind of catapult any desire for you,

1060
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: like Mary to really move into your work differently, or

1061
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: how you looked at raising you know, your kids are

1062
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: having kids, or she didn't meet any of our kids unfortunately.

1063
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: I think Sala and I were inspired by mom when

1064
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: we were close to Mum. So I think it's sort

1065
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 1: of we had that we had that time with her

1066
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: to talk to her about her career, and we talked

1067
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: about food, and we talked about art and sort of

1068
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: her you know, we got to sort of hang out

1069
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: with her to a certain degree. So I think that

1070
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: question though, when when did we realize that we were

1071
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, it was our job, my mate do her proud,

1072
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 1: but I kind of I wasn't doing photography and food

1073
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: with her. I worked in mum's archive with Ester. For me,

1074
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: it was a bit maybe a bit of a different

1075
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: thing for you because I was like doing exhibitions with

1076
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: her and down at yours is probably quite different, you know.

1077
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: When I was in Paris, I was working in you know,

1078
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: and I was heading up a brand in Paris at

1079
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: the time, so it didn't really occur to I mean again,

1080
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: we'd always, we'd always, we never compromise. I think that's

1081
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: one thing I was aware of, regardless of the question,

1082
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: is that not working in any way with animal products.

1083
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: I was the only one in the fashion industry for sure,

1084
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: and I still want very few. But twenty five years ago,

1085
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: I was certainly I was an absolute freak of nature,

1086
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: and I was really aware. I remember becoming aware in

1087
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: an interview one day. I was like, Oh, that is

1088
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: the privilege that I was given in my chosen profession.

1089
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: And that's where privilege really comes into play. That I

1090
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: didn't have to compromise my belief system for my training career,

1091
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: and because there's a lot of people work in the

1092
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: fashion industry that don't want to work with animal products,

1093
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: but they have to do to pay the rent. So

1094
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: I think I was doing that anyway, because you know,

1095
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: I would never do never, you know, be a hypocrite

1096
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: and work with animal products. But I think there became

1097
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: an age where I, after month passed away where I

1098
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: was quite aware that there was more magnitude and weight

1099
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: to what I was doing and actually I could do

1100
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: much much more with it. And yeah, she would be

1101
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: so proud of you. She had a legacy of what

1102
01:02:54,160 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: might go and Dad started kind of do you want

1103
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: the tears or what's going on here? Okay, I just what.

1104
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: I just think that I think that fears. You know,

1105
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: you you guys have lived and have led extraordinary lives.

1106
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: It's very rare, right, So I think it's a really

1107
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: interesting thing. Yeah, we want to because crowd, we want

1108
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: to do her proud, Like we want to show, as

1109
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: you say now, that hoping show never had never I've

1110
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: never been on TV presenting a cooking show and to

1111
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: be asking me to do a suddenly it's like, well,

1112
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: do you want to do the first ever vegetarian cooking

1113
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: show on Discovery? Plus it's like, uh, scared, but we

1114
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: have to make my proud, and it's like, yes, this

1115
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: is an amazing opportunity, but you're not only I think

1116
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: it's tied into we're not only making our parents poud

1117
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: a mum who's obviously not here and she's watching us

1118
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: right now, we're making her proud. Did she loved this

1119
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: more than anything. Also, Mum would be the first person

1120
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: to say, fuck it, don't do anything. You're all like

1121
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: really busy and stress. We've got eight children between two

1122
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: childs and you would break for cruising yourself. Like Mum

1123
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: would be like, why still doing this? Number one? Yeah,

1124
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: go into the country and go enjoy your life. But

1125
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: I think also there is definitely an aspect of an idea,

1126
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: but there's definitely an aspect of having children and having

1127
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: the mum we had, and she was the best mum

1128
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: and the most loving, natural, unaffected like pure angel mom.

1129
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: So I think there is definitely when I'm screaming at

1130
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: my children going reflect stella I plan to have kids.

1131
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: At that point, I literally mom died and a week

1132
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: later I was like, I am going to become an alcoholic.

1133
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to drink. I'm going to get trashed for

1134
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: the rest of my life, and literally a week later,

1135
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: I like, probably mom was like, what one thing can

1136
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: I do to stop her? I'm doing all that and

1137
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: I was socially pregnant a week later, So that kind

1138
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: of started. Raleigh. When was the moment in both of

1139
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: your careers where you were like, you know, I'm a

1140
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: grown up now. It happened gradually because every single one

1141
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: of my reviews and interviews was only ever, what's it

1142
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: like being McCartney's taughter, And every headline was with a

1143
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: little help from friends and like every single day. So

1144
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: I remember gradually coming out of and then it was

1145
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: like you actually have proven yourself and you know, sustainability

1146
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. And I guess one

1147
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: of the more recent moments is when I actually was

1148
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: invited to get the G seven in Cornwall with your

1149
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: president and as seven world leaders and it was me

1150
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: and Prince Charles asked me to go, and I was

1151
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of like what really? Actually, you know, I just

1152
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: thought when somebody says it's just you and the seven

1153
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: world leaders and Prince Charles and the Queen, We're like,

1154
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's like really, that's fifty people in a room. Actually,

1155
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm busy and I've got a collection to do. And

1156
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: I remember calling Dad and saying, oh my god, I

1157
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: think like tomorrow I'm going down to go like it

1158
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: was that short notice. And I remember calling him going, actually,

1159
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm a bit nervous, and he was like, oh, you know,

1160
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: just remember they're all people and they've got a problem

1161
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: and you you have solutions all their problems. And I

1162
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: remember thinking, oh, I'm gonna grown up now, not the

1163
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: Time one hundred, where I it's that where you're going,

1164
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: because I never know you are definitely not a grown

1165
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: up that night. No, but that was a big moment.

1166
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: The Time one hundred was like a coming out party

1167
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: almost because it was a big deal. It was like

1168
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: you and Oprah and do you want to hear quickly

1169
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: that that story? It's such a traumatic like I'm sweating,

1170
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: I hate you. Oh it was the worst night of mine.

1171
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: So basically I get the Time one hundred. I'm like,

1172
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm half American major. This is like what everyone, all

1173
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: my family in America are going to really love. They'll

1174
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: be really proud of. So I'm like, oh I need

1175
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: They're like, you just got a table, bring some friends.

1176
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: So I'm like, Kate, do you want to come and

1177
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: live do you want to come husband. I can't remember.

1178
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: I literally don't remember the night apart from the horror

1179
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: and walking into the room and the woman from time.

1180
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: When Hunter says, Sella, oh, you know, we were wondering

1181
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: if you could just say a few worse, like there's

1182
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: a couple of people will get up that are receiving

1183
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: the time one hundred and you've just said a couple

1184
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,959
Speaker 1: of us, like one memory that inspired you from your child,

1185
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, blood comes out my bottom. I'm like,

1186
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: what do you mean? Like you can't say no, but

1187
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: you're like, what do you mean? Oh, it's no big

1188
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: deal to her. They're like, just busket, just busket. I'm like, no, surely,

1189
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: it's no biggy, no biggie, no biggie. Look at her face,

1190
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: look at Okay. It's like drawing up. So we go

1191
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: at the table and it's like the night beginners like,

1192
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: and the first person to get up and speak Michelle

1193
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: fricking Obama. So Schelle Obama gets up, She's on a podium.

1194
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: She gets the sage's like a big big She's just

1195
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: got in. They've just got in. It's like a week

1196
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: after they get into the wire house. The guy who

1197
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: writes for his features is getting a time when her

1198
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, so that's the first person to

1199
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: get up with this little impromptu speak, second person to

1200
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: get up for Winfrey. So Oprah gets up and she

1201
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: gets every time she's like and she's over Winfrey. So

1202
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my, my mom. Well and then I

1203
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: come next Stella McCartney and literally shouldn't follow Oprah? Oh

1204
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: my god. It was like, okay, should have followed Michelle Obama,

1205
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: Oprah and Elbrah. I cannot remember one word that I said.

1206
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: All I remember is looking down occasionally a Kate and

1207
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: she was like my husband going was like, what the

1208
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: fuck are you saying? And I remember looking around and

1209
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: they had all the screens and all like they just

1210
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: have me on every screen, and I was like, it

1211
01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: was a very very yeah, it really was. It was.

1212
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: It was a very unprepared, big moment that wasn't expected.

1213
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: Did you come through or did you not? She did? Yes,

1214
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: you did? It was fine, It was fine you you

1215
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: she did. It was a disaster. And I don't remember

1216
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: one one I said. You know when you're mid speech

1217
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: and you don't even know what's coming out of your mouth,

1218
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: it was that moment where you're like and you can't

1219
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: even know it was, I mean it was it was

1220
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: horror but horr you blacked out basically, I mean she did.

1221
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: It was like a black el. But you know, I've

1222
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: watched you grow up, right, and so I've seen from

1223
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: you know. But there's there's a there's something that I

1224
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: think will always set Stella and marry in the whole

1225
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: family apart from everything else, which is there is this

1226
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: in like just honest. You're always honest. You really do

1227
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: believe in what you guys believe, and you follow through

1228
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 1: with everything that you do, and you're all so committed

1229
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: to your families no matter what, And like that I

1230
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: think comes through in everything that you guys do. You

1231
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: really are carrying the legacy, which is why I said that.

1232
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: You know, I think your mom would be more than proud.

1233
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: She would. She's just she is. She's just shining on

1234
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: you guys all the time, you know. And And what's

1235
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: it like to be Paul McCartney's daughter. My friends Mary

1236
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: tell us about the new cookbook that you're doing. I

1237
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: want you guys to be one of my subjects because

1238
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: basically I'm coming up with the recipe and then I'll

1239
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: come to you and bring it to you. We eat

1240
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: it together, I take portraits of you, and then it'll

1241
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: be the called feeding creativity, says creative people. You will

1242
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: have to marry dope and dope from an it, dope

1243
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: from the day and the recipes and so that I'm

1244
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: working on that with pashion. So that actually one thing

1245
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: that I said yesterday that I kind of realized it

1246
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: quite cool. Actually I kind of underplayed it. It's some

1247
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: international Women's month and I just designed the mini Mouse,

1248
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: the first ever pats She's actually not an entred great

1249
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: that's the cutest thing. You know. Ronnie's like obsessed with

1250
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: mini Mouse, which is weird because we don't want to

1251
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 1: took you up. But it's yesterday. I was like I

1252
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 1: had and I was like, actually, that's kind of amazing.

1253
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: Not only is it an animal, but one of the

1254
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 1: most famous female animals, and she's only a woman in

1255
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: a dress. God damn it. We only do this speed

1256
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: around one word to describe the other as a child.

1257
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: Stella was very funny. One word. Okay, that's okay. Stella

1258
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: was funny. Can I do this too? Della was bossy,

1259
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: but I am too, which is why we're really Mary's perfect. Okay,

1260
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: talk a bitch, okay. One word to describe the other now, friend, yeah, Mary,

1261
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: best friend? Oh you going? Yeah? Let me love each other.

1262
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: One word to describe your childhood chaotic. Yeah. I would

1263
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 1: say one way to do your childhood would be opposites.

1264
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: One minute you're in a field, the next minute you're

1265
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: in a two hundred thousand just opposing. Yeah, that's I'm

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Speaker 1: not very good on the one word I hate this

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Speaker 1: favorite place, favorite place to be as a kid, Scotland.

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Speaker 1: You could have said that once you three Scotland, who's

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Speaker 1: more spontaneous? We're both out. I know I would find

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Speaker 1: that hard to answer. Who's more type how spontaneous? My

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Speaker 1: answer was that we're both sort of similar. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Let's I feel like these days we kind of do

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Speaker 1: things spontaneously together. We're like, why we're going to go

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Speaker 1: off and do this and stay? Let's give that one

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Speaker 1: to stell. Who's more type aspiration? What is typing our foot? Yeah? Like,

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Speaker 1: who's more like, come on, guys, come on, okay, who

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Speaker 1: is who? Who is the most more creative cook? I'm

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Speaker 1: going to think maybe it's Mary? Yeah, yeah, who is

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Speaker 1: more daring maybe Stella. Do you think back in the day,

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Speaker 1: what are we talking now or past? Just in general,

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Speaker 1: I'm going for it. I don't know. I think we're

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Speaker 1: both talking thee the heart because it's like it's sort

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Speaker 1: of it's very hard. We don't. We're more of debating.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that the other one isn't. Who's a

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Speaker 1: stricter parent? Myy not it is. Della thinks Mary is

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Speaker 1: the stricter parents. Mary thinks Stella is the stricter parent.

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Speaker 1: What was your favorite family kids do the homework and

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Speaker 1: the extra things you have bed I'm obsessed with them, sleeping,

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Speaker 1: food wise, just so much better. What was your favorite

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Speaker 1: family tradition Thursdays Christmas? Mm hmmm, cute. Favorite book is

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Speaker 1: a kid Charlotte's Webb Eloise at the Plaza. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was one of mine. Oh my God, first

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Speaker 1: childhood crush. I loved my god childhood crush ever Solah

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Speaker 1: Adam and the really odd someone actually Bowie Bowie all

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Speaker 1: the way. M hm, David Weird. First kiss, My first

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Speaker 1: kiss was Luke warm, Hi, Luke Mary. Mine was just

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Speaker 1: any boy. During Kiss Chase, we played Kiss Chase and

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Speaker 1: before school and any any any boy kiss me. I

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Speaker 1: would kiss called kissing girls where we run and the

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Speaker 1: girls would be like, yeah, my trip. First concert is

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Speaker 1: can't happen with you guys? First concert that wasn't a

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Speaker 1: beat else? Ooh probably David Bowie. I went to my

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Speaker 1: ask is there that took me to see? I don't know? No,

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Speaker 1: actually me and so Donner when I have a really

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Speaker 1: chapter memory of us going to a Queen concert in

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Speaker 1: Wembley Stadium and then because mom and Dad took us

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Speaker 1: to the after party and it was like I remember opening.

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Speaker 1: They took us to the thing and we had to

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Speaker 1: go to bed because the hotel door was opened and

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Speaker 1: it was like Elton John and somebody else there and

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Speaker 1: I was like, you have to party and then they

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Speaker 1: were like you have to go into this room and

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Speaker 1: get a sleep and I was like, last question do

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Speaker 1: you want to ask? So it's a two part question.

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Speaker 1: We've asked this. We asked this pretty much everybody. If

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Speaker 1: there's something about your sister, what is that one? What

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Speaker 1: is that thing that you would love to take from

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Speaker 1: meaning doors to emulate, meaning something that she has that

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Speaker 1: you wish you did. And on the flip side, of that,

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Speaker 1: what is something that you would like to alleviate from

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Speaker 1: your sibling to where you wish that if that was gone,

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Speaker 1: their life might be a little easier. Well, I can

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Speaker 1: answer that first all, I'm Mary. I think Stella is

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Speaker 1: as I said before, I think she's incredibly funny and

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Speaker 1: she really literally I think if she wasn't a fashion designer,

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Speaker 1: she should be a stand up comedian. So I often

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Speaker 1: am like I wish I could be as funny as her. Literally,

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Speaker 1: she is the person that makes me laugh and just

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Speaker 1: so clever and funny. And if I was going to

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Speaker 1: alleviate something, it would definitely be to sort of take

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Speaker 1: any anxiety away from her and stress. I would say

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Speaker 1: so for alleviating and for what I would want of yours, nothing, no,

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Speaker 1: just the calm, unconditional both of you that you have.

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Speaker 1: You have. You were very good at processing and coming

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Speaker 1: out quickly at a very specific, big, pure, uncomplicated. But

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Speaker 1: the rights, M did you get in? I didn't get that.

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Speaker 1: I go to welcome. I love you, guys, I miss you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on our podcast and sharing your relationship.

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Speaker 1: Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: Producer is Alison President, editor is Josh Wendish. Music by

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Speaker 1: Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark. If you want to show

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