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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome in too, a Monday edition of Texans All Access

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Speaker 2: from the Monday Texans Radio Studio, not Indianapolis. Sad though

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Speaker 2: it may be, to be back from the Combine and

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Speaker 2: what a combine it was, John Harris along's side, Mark Vandermier, Mark,

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Speaker 2: good evening. How are you and how is your combine

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Speaker 2: withdrawal this weekend?

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Speaker 3: It was fine, and I watched Combine to get over

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Speaker 3: the combine, if you will. I find it compelling. It's

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Speaker 3: funny because it's one of those things, Johnny, where you're thinking,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna watch this, There's no way I'm hanging

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Speaker 3: with this.

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Speaker 1: Four hours later, I'm still watching it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. It is the Underwear Olympics. Bill

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Speaker 3: O'Brien said that it is. And people ask me, well,

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Speaker 3: what's it like being in the bowl watching these workouts?

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Speaker 3: You and I have been in the bowl to watch

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Speaker 3: the workouts, and here it is, folks.

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Speaker 1: It's easier on TV to follow this stuff. That's true.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like being at a track and field event.

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Speaker 3: It's easier to watch track and field on TV. You

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Speaker 3: get more information, you really know what you're looking at.

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Speaker 3: The combine. When you're in the there's no pa guy

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Speaker 3: usually to.

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Speaker 1: Say and now running.

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Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy, let's see what he did was run number two.

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Speaker 3: There is not that kind of thing going on, so

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Speaker 3: it's a little bit more difficult to follow. Actually, track

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Speaker 3: and field is easier. I was at Aggie Land this

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Speaker 3: week and for vander Kids high school event. Oh wow,

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Speaker 3: and the announcer there, I don't know the guy's name.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry I don't, but track and field people would

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Speaker 3: know this guy. Apparently he's a legend. He was phenomenal,

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Speaker 3: phenomenal with a billion high school kids at this event.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, go on.

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Speaker 2: So there have been a few things have changed. I

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Speaker 2: will say one they're allowing fans to go in. I

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Speaker 2: think that helped the guys. To me, just the energy

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Speaker 2: j brought, So that brought some energy. So there's that.

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Speaker 2: The other thing was for all the years. So what

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Speaker 2: they would do in the bowl is they would if

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Speaker 2: if you've ever been to Lucas Oil regardless, they have

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Speaker 2: four basically four corner video boards. Yeah don't have a

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Speaker 2: you know two big the ndzel the that have four

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Speaker 2: in each corner. And so what they would do is

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Speaker 2: they would run forties and the feed going through there

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Speaker 2: would be the NFL network feed, but it wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: a any sound and be no graphics, so you had

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Speaker 2: no idea what the times were, so that sucks. I

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Speaker 2: usually wouldsider with my buddy fran Duffy from the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: and he asked me, said, hey, man, we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: over there by the broad and vertical watching and getting

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Speaker 2: together again. I was like, nah, man, we're going back Thursday,

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Speaker 2: so I'm going to miss all the on field testings. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we both look forward to that, and so that's where

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Speaker 2: you go. We go to our sideline and I just

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Speaker 2: you get up in the stands. You can watch the

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Speaker 2: broad jump and you hear all the measurements. You can

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Speaker 2: kind of look down and see some of the vertical,

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Speaker 2: but you're looking right at the path of the forty,

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Speaker 2: so you could see the guys going to forty. So

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Speaker 2: it'd be frustrating because you didn't know what anybody anybody's

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Speaker 2: time was. You had no clue. The players didn't even know.

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Speaker 2: The players would run and then be looking around, what

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Speaker 2: did I do? Well, they've changed that and now they've

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Speaker 2: got the feed in there. So when Xavier Worthy looked

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Speaker 2: up and saw his four two one running. He kept running.

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Speaker 2: He just freaked out because he got so they made

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Speaker 2: that change. So I think that's that's a big one.

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Speaker 2: I what I used to do was I have YouTube TV,

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Speaker 2: So I would take YouTube TV and put.

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Speaker 1: It on my phone and have it on my phone.

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Speaker 1: I would put the combine.

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Speaker 2: On, I would see the live I would actually time

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Speaker 2: so that's how I would know it's hard. No, it's tough.

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Speaker 2: It's no, it's really hard. It's a lot harder than

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Speaker 2: you would you would think. But I would imagine if

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Speaker 2: you have practice of your scout and you've done it

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Speaker 2: over and over and over again, you probably you probably

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Speaker 2: become more accustomed to it. But I remember there was

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Speaker 2: one time when I was doing it and somebody I

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Speaker 2: can't remember who. I think it was a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Defensive lineman ran an unbelievable time and like I got

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Speaker 2: him at like four six five? Is that for real?

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Speaker 2: I just didn't I didn't believe it. He actually was better.

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Speaker 2: But that's how I used to do it. But now

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Speaker 2: they've got the fans in the ball and they've got

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Speaker 2: the they've got the feed showing what the actual times

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Speaker 2: are up on the video board. So I think that

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Speaker 2: helps the guys. I think it makes it a lot better.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, Mark, I feel like that added

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Speaker 2: juice to the event.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the fans were there.

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Speaker 2: You could hear Dania, Jeremiah and rich Eisen just the

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Speaker 2: excitement that was coming forth from them, but you could

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Speaker 2: see it on the players.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Stacy Dale's was really really good.

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Speaker 1: She was really good.

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Speaker 2: During the combine, adding in just different nuggets about each player.

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Speaker 2: You know, I caught up with this guy. You know,

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Speaker 2: this guy's Ambitextrius, and she just had all these little

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Speaker 2: nuggets to throw in there, which were kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't watch every I should say this, I

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Speaker 2: didn't watch every second. I had every second on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was doing the work. I would look up, Okay,

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Speaker 2: who's running. Okay, it's this guy, all right, and I

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Speaker 2: would go back to it. But I probably I miss

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Speaker 2: you when Xavi, you're worthy. My son had popped out

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Speaker 2: of his room and I was he saw the combine

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Speaker 2: was on, and so he was kind of asking me

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Speaker 2: a few questions. You never watched a combine with me before,

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Speaker 2: And I said, Jack, this guy right here, Zave, you're worthy,

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Speaker 2: I pointed. I said, he just ran a four two five,

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Speaker 2: which might be the best time, one of the best

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Speaker 2: he sat down and watched when he ran a four

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Speaker 2: to two one, like, Jack jumped off the couch.

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Speaker 1: Like like, yes, I got excited for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, man, that's that was the

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Speaker 2: power of that moment in that event. It's the best

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Speaker 2: event too after from that perspective, Yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: seeing fast guys run really fast is incredible.

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Speaker 3: You want to see how they do. I mean as

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Speaker 3: opposed to the cone drill or whatever. Now, you know,

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Speaker 3: I like all those I know you do.

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Speaker 1: I know you do. Now.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you this though, because, by the way,

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Speaker 3: watching the Gauntlet, Oh yeah, I thought Maconkie looked good

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Speaker 3: in the gunky Gauntlet.

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Speaker 1: Some guys look better than others in the Gauntlet this move.

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Speaker 3: And Nick was telling us the Gauntlet is actually a

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Speaker 3: pretty good drill because you have to be aware.

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Speaker 1: You got to turn.

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Speaker 3: Quickly, good hands on the move, and I think you're

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Speaker 3: only as good as well. You're only as good as

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Speaker 3: time as well, right, so that has to be there.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the tight end from Klas State? His name,

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Speaker 2: I always get it, it's Dalen Holker.

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Speaker 1: Holdn't see him. I didn't see him. What did he do?

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Speaker 2: He he was going across. He got to the second

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Speaker 2: and turning go right yep. So I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 2: But on his second to last catch he caught it.

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Speaker 1: To he gets the last throw, he catches that one too.

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Speaker 2: He catches both of them and runs and runs, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I didn't know that is cool.

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Speaker 1: Dalen Holker is his name of Carl State? Really good athlete.

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Speaker 1: That was not intentional. I don't think it was. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Talking about it now, I knowed that was really, really cool.

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Speaker 2: What about the quarterbacks? One thing about the gauntlet too,

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Speaker 2: And this is interesting. They've now started timing the Gauntlet.

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Speaker 2: They didn't used to do that. So I bring it

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Speaker 2: up because there's gonna be a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Forty times. Obviously, say if you're were that the wide

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Speaker 2: receivers ran out of their mind, mccakey ran a four

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Speaker 2: very surprised by that.

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Speaker 1: But I would love McConkey here.

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Speaker 2: I think twenty three is just a little early, but a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of people would love mcconkee. I know he yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So Ken Coleman from Florida State, who is one of

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Speaker 2: the top receivers, unbelievable athlete.

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Speaker 1: Runs just forty. He runs four six two and everybody's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean I kind of had that reaction to it first, like,

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Speaker 2: I wanted him to run better because I think Coleman's

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Speaker 1: Of been one.

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Speaker 2: Like no, I think his playmate stands out, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think he's got plenty of speed. Well, they timed

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Speaker 2: the gauntlet. He did the Gauntlet in twenty miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: He reached the top speed of twenty miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: He blew away all the other people, all the other

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Speaker 2: receivers running the gauntlet, and so it was information. It

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Speaker 2: was information that said, look, this is the forty time,

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Speaker 2: but this is what you're gonna see with him on

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Speaker 2: the field. And I thought it was really cool that

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Speaker 2: they started to do I think they did it last

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Speaker 1: It was like and he's just flying through.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, that's and I was glad that Daniel,

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah and Isaac talked about that because that was real

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Speaker 2: representation of football flying, playing at a high rate of speed,

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Speaker 2: making a catch, change of direction, whatever you gotta do.

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Speaker 2: It was really interesting that they timed that so now

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Speaker 2: you got to balance. Okay, yeah, he ran four six two,

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Speaker 2: but the play speed shows up. And I thought that

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Speaker 3: Back to Jerry Rice at a kwam Bold and the

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Speaker 3: guys who did not have good forties and by the way,

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Speaker 3: Poka Nakua four five seven last year in the forty

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Speaker 3: and you know what they showed of him when.

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Speaker 1: They always do that.

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Speaker 2: During to combine, they'll show a drill and then they'll

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Speaker 2: show how it translates to the field. They were showing

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Speaker 2: the gauntlet and who do they show Pooka Nakua That

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Speaker 2: dude flew.

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Speaker 1: Through it last year. There you go, flew through it.

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Speaker 2: And then if they show his clips from the rams

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Speaker 2: crossing route, snatch run another crossing route, snatch it run,

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Speaker 2: doesn't slow down, doesn't body catch it.

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Speaker 1: It was the gauntlet drill like in its fullest form.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was really impressive to watch, but yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: It is definitely that you get hung up on the forties.

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Speaker 3: But turning the corner, you tell me there are drills

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Speaker 3: Fuller could turn on a dime, and that, in addition

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Speaker 1: That's what Tank does well.

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Speaker 2: To me, that's different than Will in some sense, Tank

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Speaker 2: just can't do that with Tank. I think Worthy's got

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Speaker 2: interesting to watch this on fold. But man, the Texas

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable show at night. Mitchell was great. I say,

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Speaker 2: Tomandre Sweat ran five to seven at three hundred and

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Speaker 3: See, that's wild, like speaking of the heavy guys, and

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Speaker 3: that drill. You'll have to tell me how how that's significant.

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Speaker 3: first round draft choice. Right if one of those is

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Speaker 3: a little off, Okay, we're not going to elevate.

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Speaker 1: You to that round on our board.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna put you a little bit down, but you

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Speaker 1: You could be.

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Speaker 3: But I think they want to see am I right

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Speaker 3: about this? They want to see where you measure up

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think if you say you changed the four

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Speaker 1: But he didn't really need to be that speedy. That's

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Speaker 2: Then he runs and he runs four, five for six,

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Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, if you change it, especially

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Speaker 2: I think the receivers probably need to do it. Running

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Speaker 2: I think it's more about that burst, and that's what

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Speaker 2: What really matters is the ten Yeah, you know, what's

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Speaker 2: Bend, how you bend, and then how you can accelerate

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Speaker 2: You could time that drill. I'm telling you could learn

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Speaker 3: With the forty Johnny for old linemen more like the

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Speaker 2: As important though, they've changed some of the linemen like

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Speaker 2: So they're doing like three or four different movement skills

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Speaker 1: And he's a he's a combine. Yeah, he's all. I

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Speaker 2: I guess not been measured.

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Speaker 2: He's got a pro day coming up. He's got a

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Speaker 3: You have to allow yourself to be measured way.

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Speaker 3: Didn't he didn't, there's no request your record day at

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Speaker 1: He just done it at the combine And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: These guys are kind of I don't know if they're

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Speaker 2: Kailey Williams isn't gonna allow all these other teams to

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Speaker 2: right for Killer Williams, who knows he's going into top

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Speaker 2: three picks. Why would you let thirty two teams tug

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Speaker 2: at you go through this, go through that, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: Let them do a thorough thing when you're there, get

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Speaker 1: I didn't have any problem.

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Speaker 3: With that, but I think you got to get the

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Speaker 3: later on right, we have Jeff Capitol, director of medical

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Speaker 1: The extent that they're gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: E kg's things like that, they find stuff right, They've

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and look, does is every player afforded what Kayla

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Speaker 2: Williams did and just said no, I'm gonna no, not

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Speaker 2: He loves sour candy apparently, And so they did this

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Speaker 2: thing with swimming NFL Network just testing, and I came

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Speaker 2: out of there. I've always liked him. I came out

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Speaker 2: of there thinking, man, I like this guy a lot.

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Speaker 2: I think he's relatable. I think there's just been so

440
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Speaker 2: much noise about him. But Jayden Daniels and Malik Neighbors

441
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Speaker 2: weren't even in Indianapolis on Saturday when the quarterbacks and wide.

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Speaker 1: Receivers were working out. That's amazing. They weren't even there

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Speaker 1: there are you? What are you doing? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It made no sense, but quarterbacks, look, nobody's gonna throw

445
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Speaker 2: like CJ.

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Speaker 1: Nobody. But I thought Penix threw well.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I'm actually I was watching Washington Texas

448
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 2: and watching Penis again, and I'm like, man, I really

449
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Speaker 2: like this guy.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: That's music to the years of our friend Andre where

452
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Speaker 2: he loves Panics. Pennis is gonna end up somewhere, I

453
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Speaker 2: hope Penix ends up somewhere with a good offensive staff.

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Speaker 1: I got the place. I know, the exact place I

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Speaker 1: want him to go.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the offensive staff because it's now changing,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Kubiak in charge. And that's New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that Derek Carr is long for

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Speaker 2: New Orleans. But I could see Penis getting in New

461
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Speaker 2: Orleans system, sitting for a year, taking over the second year. Boy,

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Speaker 2: he'd be really fun to watch in a Kubiak system.

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Speaker 2: I thought he threw it well, Nicks threw it okay,

464
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Speaker 2: But Joe Milton threw it eight thousand yards with the

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Speaker 2: long ball.

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Speaker 3: That was fun, and the long ball montage was great him.

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Speaker 2: People freaking out on Twitter. My buddy Lancerline posted the video.

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Speaker 2: He was down on the field. He posted a video

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Speaker 2: that throw and the what does that proof?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Have some fun, people like he threw a seventy something

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Speaker 1: yards in the air. Relax, it's really really good.

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Speaker 3: What are we here for? Well, you know, it's not

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Speaker 3: just about the evaluation. If you're watching the combine, you

475
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Speaker 3: want to be entertained too. Yeah, that entertaining Milton was entertaining.

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Speaker 3: Good for him because Hendon Hooker comes out last year,

477
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Speaker 3: he's injured, can't do anything. Here's Milton doing his thing

478
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Speaker 3: out of the University of Tennessee, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: where he gets picked, but he's got a big gun.

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Speaker 1: That's a big arm right there, huge arm.

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Speaker 2: I came out of there last thing about the combin

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Speaker 2: mart I came out of there thinking there are plenty

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Speaker 2: of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: There are boatloads, boat loads of wide receivers. Good boat

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Speaker 1: loads wide receivers. Good because Mike Evans is unavailable fans.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans signs two year, fifty two million hour deal

488
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Speaker 2: to stay with Tampa Bay. The offensive line tackle position

489
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Speaker 2: is as good as I've seen it. In the corners,

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Speaker 2: there's not a Stingley, there's not a Sauce, but it

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Speaker 2: is about fifteen to seventeen guys that John Would you

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Speaker 2: like this guy?

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Speaker 1: Yep? Would you like this guy? Yep? About fifteen to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Then I'm like, I like all those guys.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna help too, because we don't know what's gonna

496
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Speaker 2: be opposite Stinglely, whether it's gonna be Steven Nelson coming

497
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Speaker 2: back or a rookie or a signee and free agency

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Speaker 2: those positions quarterback, wide receiver, tackle, corner the four priority positions.

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Speaker 2: Texans have a guy at each one of those, CJ.

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Speaker 2: Titus and Laramie Nico and Tank Stingley Kevin Enough. I

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Speaker 2: don't know do you need another corner potentially, but at

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Speaker 2: least you have him at those positions. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: in this draft it's gonna be an offensive draft. Quarterback, wide, receiver, tackle,

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Speaker 2: the night one, it is gonna be offense, offense, offense, offense, offense.

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Speaker 1: Which brings me back to last year.

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Speaker 2: Sitting at pick number three, the Texans debating whether they're

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Speaker 2: gonna trade up. Could you get a Will Anderson junior

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Speaker 2: in this draft? Very easy answer is no, not at all.

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Speaker 2: So you gave up the twenty seventh pick in this

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Speaker 2: draft for Will Anderson starting last year?

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Speaker 1: Smart move? I think, so, yeah, that's a great point.

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Speaker 3: I think you paid the premium to move up for

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Speaker 3: a premium player.

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Speaker 1: That's all it is.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you paid extra of course, meaning in draft capital,

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Speaker 3: to get a top flight player. So far, so very good,

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Speaker 3: defensive rookie of the year, and you know he's only

518
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Speaker 3: going to get better.

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Speaker 1: How banged up was he in the back third fourth

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Speaker 1: of the season. Exactly?

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Speaker 3: A lot he gets mended, has a full off season

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Speaker 3: as a pro.

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Speaker 1: Let's go in. As sophomore, he couldn't even walk against

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Speaker 1: Tennessee in a game New Year's Eve Day.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't even walk and you had back to back sacks

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Speaker 2: that shut down the drive before he didn't practice.

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Speaker 1: At the end, you had a ski boot on his foot. Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Wait for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: All right, a guy that we love, Sacapacio, our good

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Speaker 2: friend from Buffalo, sideline reporter from Buffalo, host on WGR.

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Speaker 2: We sat down with him at the Combine. Great stuff

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Speaker 2: from South coming up next right here in Texans All Access.

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Speaker 2: So everybody walking back his Monday edition of Texans All

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Speaker 2: Access from not at Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, John Harris, Football on the sideline reporter.

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Speaker 4: Catch up one of my good friends. He's got that.

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Speaker 4: Gotten to know Mark really well at the owners meeting.

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Speaker 2: Sal Capaccio Sala reporter for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 4: Lots to talk about with him.

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Speaker 2: Including man got a pacemaker? Yeah, at pacemaker. We'll get

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Speaker 2: into all that right here with Saal Capacho.

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Speaker 3: I asked you this question I think two years ago,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna ask you again, Josh Allen at the time,

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Speaker 3: I said, Jim Kelly's this beloved quarterback went to four

545
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Speaker 3: Super Bowls? Said, how is the comparison between Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: and Jim Kelly in fan love? I'm the fan love meter.

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Speaker 3: Has the fan love meter changed for Josh Allen at

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Speaker 3: all over the last couple of years or is it

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Speaker 3: the same or better than ever?

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Speaker 1: Where would you gauge that? Right now?

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Speaker 5: Fans love Josh Allen, But if you want to compare

552
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Speaker 5: to Jim Kelly, that might literally depend on what age

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Speaker 5: you are. I mean, let's right, I mean if you

554
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Speaker 5: are people who are sixties seventy years old, and Jim Kelly,

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Speaker 5: these are also people who told you how great Jack

556
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Speaker 5: Kemp was, right, I mean, let's.

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Speaker 1: Remember how about Joe Ferguson.

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Speaker 5: I love Joe Ferguson nineteen eighties, right, he was my

559
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Speaker 5: first quarterback growing up. But you know, Josh has hasn't

560
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Speaker 5: gotten to a Super Bowl. And that's what you'll hear

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Speaker 5: from that crowd. It's the same people who call one

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Speaker 5: Bill's live or sitting right next to you guys and

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Speaker 5: tell Steve Tasker, Steve, you.

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Speaker 1: Are the greatest.

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Speaker 5: I watched you play every single game of your career,

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Speaker 5: because we all know Steve is the greatest, and we

567
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Speaker 5: all watched him play. But if you're a new generation

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Speaker 5: Bills fan, Josh Allen, I mean, the love for him

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Speaker 5: is tremendous. And guys, I have to tell you it's

570
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Speaker 5: not just the talent and how great he is. He

571
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Speaker 5: truly fits our city for what he does off the field.

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Speaker 5: He is very involved with the Oshi Children's Hospital and

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Speaker 5: he has a fund there in honor of his mom,

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Speaker 5: the Patrician Allen Fund. He does so much. He's a

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Speaker 5: California kid, but he's not an LA kid. He's a

576
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Speaker 5: northern farm California kid.

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Speaker 1: Different type.

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Speaker 5: That's right. Didn't have a scholarship coming out. I want

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Speaker 5: to go to Fresno State. They rejected him. He's worked

580
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Speaker 5: for everything. He's a blue collar guy like us. So

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Speaker 5: he fits the city. Fans love him. No one's gonna

582
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Speaker 5: say they need a new quarterback, but you will get

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Speaker 5: an older generation of fans and go well. Jim Kelly

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Speaker 5: went to four Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is something. Yeah, it's absolutely it's some four

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Speaker 1: straight and they beat the Oilers at some point. So,

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Speaker 1: so how do you get over the hump?

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Speaker 2: And I know this is something you probably get asked

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Speaker 2: and you think about all the time. I know we

590
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Speaker 2: think about the Texans, like what do we gotta do?

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Speaker 2: Like I'm sending him, you know, I sent marketing email

592
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Speaker 2: the other day. I went, I went free agents shopping.

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Speaker 2: I said him, like a fifteen point, like I did this,

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Speaker 2: I bought the I signed this guy, I resigned this

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Speaker 2: guy did all this.

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Speaker 4: I know you could ask this a lot.

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Speaker 2: The Bills kind of in the windows, seemingly because of Josh,

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Speaker 2: what's it gonna take in your mind?

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Speaker 4: How do they improve this team?

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Speaker 1: How do they get over.

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Speaker 2: The hump to get to the AFC Championship Game, to

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Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl, to win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's really just the Kansas City chief standing in

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Speaker 5: their way.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: I do know they lost the Bengals last year. We

607
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Speaker 5: all know after the Tomorrow situation, the team was running

608
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Speaker 5: on fumes and who knows what happens, right, But it's

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Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs. And let's you remember the Bills

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Speaker 5: have beaten the Chiefs three straight years in the regular

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Speaker 5: season right, and then two out of the last three

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Speaker 5: years they go to Kansas City. Three out of last

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Speaker 5: four they lose in the playoffs. But every one of

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Speaker 5: those those last two playoff games thirteen seconds left, and

615
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Speaker 5: then at the end of this year they're right there.

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Speaker 5: And de mean, it's really just about making those one

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Speaker 5: or two critical plays in the fourth quarter, which the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs have made and the Bills haven't. You're on the sidelines,

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Speaker 5: on on the sidelines, you get a feel for the energy, right,

620
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Speaker 5: we manually stay on our team sidelines. I was just

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Speaker 5: talking with a D. D. Kinkowabwash. She was doing the

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Speaker 5: game against the Chiefs for Westwood One, and she told

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Speaker 5: me she could feel a different demeanor went the fourth

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Speaker 5: quarter hit, once the fourth quarter hit between the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: and the Bills, and how the Chiefs were much more

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Speaker 5: relaxed and the Bills are more like, Okay, let's make

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Speaker 5: a play. Here we go. Let's not We've been down

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Speaker 5: this road. You gotta make that one play to win

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Speaker 5: that one time, guys. I think that's what it comes

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Speaker 5: down to. You go back to the game in Houston,

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Speaker 5: it's Josh Allen, the Bills. They're on the scene, but

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Speaker 5: they blew that lead nineteen points or whatever it was,

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Speaker 5: sixteen points and then Deshaun makes the play late. It

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Speaker 5: all goes back to that they have not played make

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Speaker 5: those critical plays near the ends of games. Thirteen seconds

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Speaker 5: against Kansas City. They have to do that, And I

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Speaker 5: don't know what the answer there is. Yeah, Stepan Dy's

638
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Speaker 5: catching a ball. Is Tyler Bass making a kick, making

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Speaker 5: a tackle on Travis Kelce or bumming him off the line.

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Speaker 5: That's what it comes down to it. It's sports. I

641
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Speaker 5: don't know how you make that one play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Salth Capaccio joining US sideline reporter for the Buffalo Bills

644
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Speaker 3: talk show host on WGR in Western New York. And

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Speaker 3: I know it's called Western New York, not upstate New York.

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Speaker 3: Ken Dorsey, how's he gonna do in Cleveland? How's Joe Brady?

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Speaker 3: I read that obviously, Sean McDermott is saying he's excited

648
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Speaker 3: about Joe Brady full year off season, get ready.

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Speaker 1: For the twenty twenty four campaign.

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Speaker 3: But what about that dynamic of making that change during

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Speaker 3: the season, Why was it necessary?

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Speaker 1: What was different?

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Speaker 5: You know, you guys were just talking about Josh, and

654
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Speaker 5: Josh was different. You know under under Ken Dorsey. Ken

655
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Speaker 5: Dorsey is a very smart man, very smart and you

656
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Speaker 5: watched him at Miami. Will you call his games?

657
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Speaker 1: Yes?

658
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's my guy and this is why it's

659
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Speaker 3: heartbreaking for me.

660
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Speaker 5: But okay, so you tell me. I'm gonna ask you this, kay,

661
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Speaker 5: because I don't want to say this in a demeaning way.

662
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 5: But we're all we're super energetic people. That's not Ken Dorsey.

663
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Speaker 5: Ken Dorsey is a very low key, kind of straight ahead,

664
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Speaker 5: in a box guy. I don't think that was fitting

665
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Speaker 5: in Buffalo and how things were working with the dynamic.

666
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Speaker 5: Sean McDermott used the word energy a lot when he

667
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Speaker 5: made the change we need more energy. We were wondering if,

668
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 5: like what was wrong with Josh Allen for six weeks, Like, dude,

669
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Speaker 5: you just don't seem like you're having fun. And I

670
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Speaker 5: don't want to blame Ken Dorsey. He's doing his job

671
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Speaker 5: the best way he can do it, and that might

672
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Speaker 5: fit somewhere, but I think in Buffalo they needed that.

673
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Speaker 5: Let's go Joe Brady. He's here up tempo every day.

674
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Speaker 5: Everything's cool and fun and it doesn't mean that you're

675
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Speaker 5: not doing your job. But Dorsey's all about work, work, work,

676
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 5: and yes, those guys might be too, but it's a

677
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Speaker 5: way of different energy, different communication. I think that's why

678
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Speaker 5: it didn't work in a lot of ways. And the

679
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Speaker 5: other thing was things we heard kind of after the

680
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Speaker 5: fact were, you know, Dorsey put a lot on the table,

681
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Speaker 5: and it was more about they got to stop what

682
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Speaker 5: we do, not we're gonna see what they do encounter that,

683
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Speaker 5: you know, and canibalize. I think there's something Joe Brady

684
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Speaker 5: was taking advantage of what defenses we're doing in game planning. Hey,

685
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Speaker 5: we see what the Eagles are doing. Here's a play

686
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Speaker 5: that'll work. Dorsey was more like, I don't really care

687
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Speaker 5: what they're doing, not that he wouldn't care, but we're

688
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 5: gonna do what we do because you have to stop us,

689
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Speaker 5: and I don't even do that in the NFL these days.

690
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Speaker 3: Having said all that, I'm wondering why they decided to

691
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Speaker 3: replace Alex van Pelt with him in Cleveland, because what

692
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Speaker 3: you're describing to me sounds more like Stefanski, you know,

693
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Speaker 3: kind of low key but very analytical and very smart.

694
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Speaker 3: And Van Pelt seemed to be the team guy and

695
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Speaker 3: he was getting everybody together and obviously they had great

696
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Speaker 3: results with the four or five quarterbacks they use.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how it all.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if it's because, you know, so Fancy's calling

699
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Speaker 5: the plays, right, I mean, so Dorsey, he'll be there

700
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Speaker 5: for a lot of that stuff. He can help with,

701
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Speaker 5: but he's not the one actually.

702
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Speaker 1: Driving it, driving it exactly.

703
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Speaker 2: So Bill's Texans are sitting a different situation, still, a

704
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Speaker 2: younger team, younger core rookie quarterback on a rookie contract,

705
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: a lot of cap room. Bills veteran team on a

706
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Speaker 2: lot of cap space, if any in.

707
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Speaker 5: Fact, probably gonna forty million over.

708
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Speaker 1: What do they do? What do they do?

709
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Speaker 2: And then how do they go shopping with whatever money

710
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Speaker 2: they have left? And what are they looking at the draft?

711
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Speaker 2: How the Bills get to a different level from that standpoint.

712
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Speaker 5: Well, Brandon Bean don't doesn't love to do it, but

713
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 5: he will. He will restructure contracts and he will he

714
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 5: will take you know, SI base salary converted, the signing bonuses.

715
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Speaker 5: Josh Allen, one strike at the pen. You're gonna basically

716
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 5: say about twenty million. Now, now you got twenty million

717
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Speaker 5: more to go. You got a couple other guys you

718
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Speaker 5: can do that with maybe step On Diggs von Miller.

719
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Speaker 5: Some high contracts. You can add void years. They got

720
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Speaker 5: guys like Dion Dawkins. You can extend. But everything you

721
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Speaker 5: do is gonna push that money down the road. As

722
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Speaker 5: you know, that's how you get in what we call

723
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Speaker 5: cap hell. Sure, the Bills have said, and they've been

724
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Speaker 5: consistent on this, as long as Brandon met he says,

725
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Speaker 5: long as I'm here and we have Josh Allen, we're

726
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Speaker 5: gonna try and go for it every year. We'd be

727
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Speaker 5: doing a disservice if we didn't do that. So they'll

728
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Speaker 5: keep doing kind of a little bit what the Saints

729
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Speaker 5: do all the time, which is really kind of extending

730
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Speaker 5: it out. So they'll do that, keep kicking it. They'll

731
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Speaker 5: find a way. They'll get under the cap.

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Speaker 1: Enough.

733
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Speaker 5: We all thought they had no money a couple years ago.

734
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Speaker 5: They signed Bombler to twenty million dollars. You find money

735
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Speaker 5: when you need to find money. So what do they

736
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 5: need to do? Though they have ten draft picks, guys,

737
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Speaker 5: it's a very critical draft. They got to get cheaper labor.

738
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Speaker 5: The Chiefs did it. The Chiefs were able to get

739
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 5: cheap labor. They drafted young players on rookie contracts to

740
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Speaker 5: offset those high priced guys. The Bills have to be

741
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 5: able to do that. It does not help when you

742
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: draft Kyrie Elam in the first round. He can't get

743
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: on the field in two years. That kind of thing matters,

744
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 5: right kill a guy like John Butler was a secondary coach.

745
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 5: Now he was in Houston, right now he's left. And

746
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Speaker 5: I think some of that might have been, Hey, we

747
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 5: drafted Kaye as great as you did with other guys.

748
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 5: We need this guy to hit right and he wanted

749
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 5: the defensive coordator job. He didn't get it. But that's

750
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 5: how much it matters to an organization. A hit on

751
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: these draft picks. They got to look at wide receiver

752
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: Cave Davis is going to be a free agent. I

753
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 5: don't think he's back. Stefan Diggs had a big tail

754
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: off in production last year, but the Bills are very

755
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 5: resolute that he's still a number one. But they keep

756
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 5: saying we got to get help around him. Explosive plays.

757
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 5: They got a guy who can throw the ball from

758
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 5: here to Bloomington, right, I mean, but yet last year

759
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 5: nineteenth in the league and twenty plus yard plays down.

760
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Speaker 2: The field in passing, oh Dave Davis in my mock

761
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: draft I gave you, guys, Troy Franklin from Oregon.

762
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Speaker 5: Love it.

763
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Speaker 2: He would fit absolutely perfectly in that offense. I love Shakir,

764
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Speaker 2: I love what he gives you. But it'll be eighty

765
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: catches for nine hundred and sixty yards yep, and a

766
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Speaker 2: few touchdowns. And you know what you get with Diggs.

767
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: Troy Franklin's gonna catch fifty passes for twelve hundred yards

768
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Speaker 2: to just be a guy down the field. He's gonna

769
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Speaker 2: be there will He's he is going to be the

770
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Speaker 2: Will Fuller for you guys. And I think this wide

771
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: receiver draft is so good for you guys that even

772
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Speaker 2: if you didn't do that at twenty eight, you could

773
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Speaker 2: get another one like that at fifty whatever you have

774
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Speaker 2: in the second round, and I know it would be incredible.

775
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Speaker 5: Think about the wide receivers a kind of like the

776
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 5: new quarterback. These astronomical salaries, there's justin Jefferson. They're talking

777
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 5: about the kind of money is gonna make. You Gotta

778
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 5: get these guys a rookie contract. What's really the difference

779
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Speaker 5: between a fifty guy in a first year guy. The

780
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Speaker 5: way these guys can play these days coming into the league.

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Speaker 3: Right, exactly, the good ones, Yes, yes, the good ones

782
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: and South Tell me Gabe Davis, let me free agent

783
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: shop here? How would he fit for the Houston Texans

784
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: as a complimentary player?

785
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Speaker 1: Already?

786
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: Of Nico Collins thirteen hundred yards almost and Tank Dell

787
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: explosive guy couldn't finish the season though due to injury.

788
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Speaker 3: What about Gabe Dave is how he fits in places?

789
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 3: Maybe Houston is a free agent.

790
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Speaker 5: So you use the word complimentary. Let me ask you this.

791
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 5: He wouldn't be the number one right, right, wouldn't be asked? Dude,

792
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: that's good. He's not a number one wide receiver. Bill's

793
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: fans even say he's a number three. He's a number

794
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 5: two wide. Look at his numbers. It's comparable to a

795
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: lot of the twos in the league. But most teams

796
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 5: these days have these guys twos and threes. They can

797
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 5: get there. So Gabe is not a burner, but he

798
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 5: separates down the field. He's a long strider and he

799
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 5: can He can get down the field a little bit.

800
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Speaker 5: It's been a bit inconsistent catching the ball. That's the

801
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 5: biggest knocking it from Bills fans drops inconsistencies catching the

802
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 5: ball at times. He's not a rat guy. He's not

803
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 5: going to catch the ball and take it to the house.

804
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 5: That's not his game. But he's a big body and

805
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 5: he can. He he's an amazing run blocker. If you

806
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: want to help out in the run game. The guy

807
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 5: never comes out the field.

808
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's def at a motto, no no block,

809
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: no rock.

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00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 5: That's right. Listen, ninety to ninety five percent every game

811
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Speaker 5: snaps for Gabe Davis. It's incredible Sefon Digs doesn't play

812
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 5: that he's on the field all the time. But here's

813
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 5: what you'd love if he went to Houston. Fourth year,

814
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 5: twenty five years old, twenty six years old. Captain won

815
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Speaker 5: the hardest worker in the offseason two years in a

816
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 5: row from the Buffalo Bills organization. Him and his trainer,

817
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: Bert is his name, geting him a shout out does

818
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 5: a great job. They just opened a gym in Orlando

819
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 5: near you. CF. They work with guys that come here

820
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 5: to the combine. They're down there all the time. They

821
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 5: are workers, they are trainers. They love being in the gym.

822
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 5: They're Jim rats. And that's get Gabe Davis and what

823
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 5: he's gonna do for you.

824
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm saving this audio if he happens to come

825
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Speaker 1: to HU. That's been a name talked about in Houston

826
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Speaker 1: for a while. It is Gabe Davis.

827
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Speaker 2: So you just look at the age, you look at size,

828
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: look at the numbers he's had in playoff games, and

829
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Speaker 2: you're like, hey, he doesn't need to be the number one.

830
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Speaker 3: Mean, well, yeah, because you have guys on the rosters.

831
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Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about this. Sal Capaccio,

832
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: sideline reporter for the Buffalo Bills and sports talk show

833
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: host in Western New York. You had a health issue,

834
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 3: and this applies to a lot of people, So tell pacemaker,

835
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: tell me about this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know you think about a pacemaker, you

837
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 5: think about, oh my god, old heart condition person, right,

838
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 5: I mean that's what I thought. I have my heart.

839
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Speaker 5: Let me start with this. My heart is perfectly strong

840
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 5: and healthy, very strong and healthy. But I have a

841
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 5: condition that I've been passing out frequently since I was

842
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: a teenager. Frequently. I mean probably about good eight nine

843
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: times since I was a teenager. Started when I was

844
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 5: in high school a couple times, and people like, oh,

845
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 5: he passed out. It happens, right, as I got older.

846
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 5: It happened. In the last four years, three four or

847
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 5: five years, I've passed out three different times. Twice I

848
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 5: hit my head pretty severely and once had to go

849
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 5: to the er and they said, look, you hit your

850
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 5: head the wrong way.

851
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: You passed out, you fall down, and you have no recovery.

852
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 5: You guys remember Fred Smerlas old nose tacking the Bills

853
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 5: Heldens a restaurant in Rhode Island a few years ago,

854
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: John Murphy, myself with the radio crew. We were eating.

855
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 5: I didn't feel that right. Well, afterwards we ate Fred's restaurant.

856
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: I said, I'm gonna go into the bathroom. I put

857
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 5: some water on my face. Still still didn't feel right,

858
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: sat down on a toilet just to relax. Woke up

859
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 5: in a pool of blood. Hit my head on a toilet

860
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 5: paper dispenser.

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00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh okay.

862
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, inside the bill Stadium, very

863
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 5: hot day, open practice, just kind of felt a little off.

864
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: Passed out in the tunnel right by the end zone

865
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Speaker 5: where you walk out. Team doctors all on top of me.

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Speaker 5: Like then that's when they said you need a pacemaker,

867
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm forty seven at the time. What

868
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: are you talking about. No, no, no, you have this

869
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 5: condition nero cardiosyncope. Well what happened, guys? Cardiologist said to me,

870
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 5: I know you're gonna say no, you're gonna be back

871
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 5: in my office because something bad's gonna happen. I'm just

872
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 5: telling you everybody does. Sure as heck. Last October, right

873
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 5: before the Bills played the Dolphins, I'm downtown at night,

874
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 5: duing an event outside a hotel. Didn't feel right, fell down,

875
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: hit my head on the concrete, had to be rushed

876
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: to the hospital. They said, you could have died if

877
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 5: you hit your head in the wrong spot. So I said,

878
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it. I'm going to a pacemaker. So

879
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: this is a condition that really is just about communication

880
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 5: between my head and my heart when you get light headed.

881
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: Most people do. There's a good thing to know for

882
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 5: people out there, because some people might have this condition

883
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 5: and not know most people. When you get a little

884
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: bit lightheaded, your heart recognizing just starts pumping harder. It's

885
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: a circular system of blood. It goes hard to head,

886
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 5: the heart to head. Mind doesn't it just doesn't recognize it.

887
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: The pacemaker is set to a point where if my

888
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 5: heart rate drops below sixty, it just starts pumping a

889
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: little bit more, pushes that blood up. I won't pass

890
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 5: out anymore.

891
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: No, it recognizes the heart rate and then triggers it.

892
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: To And so most people, if you ever have a

893
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 5: heart attack and get a pacemaker, your heart, your pacemaker

894
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 5: is always working to make sure that you're living and

895
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: it's pumping. Mine will only kick on if my heart

896
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 5: rate actually goes below sixty because my blood flow starts

897
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 5: to drop a little bit. Otherwise, it doesn't even need

898
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 5: to kick on. I have a little device that sits

899
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 5: near my bed. At night. It downloads all the data,

900
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 5: believe it or not, and in the morning I can

901
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 5: see what my heart rate was during the night. My

902
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 5: cardiologists will have an alert of something was wrong. But yeah,

903
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 5: it's technology is amazing these days.

904
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: To paint the picture.

905
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: Here we're talking to sal He's then you're you could

906
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: not be in better shape. I mean, you're in great shape,

907
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: thank you. And this has nothing to do with that.

908
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 5: Nothing.

909
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 3: And here's jj watt what jjat had a harder mute?

910
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. And here's the other thing, which is amazing.

911
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 5: So for the next six weeks, I can't lift my

912
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 5: left arm over my shoulder because there's wires that the

913
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: heart literally has to grow around the wires, and you

914
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 5: don't want to stretch the wires out.

915
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: How do you prevent yourself from I wear.

916
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 5: A sling at night in case sleeping. I don't Otherwise

917
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 5: I just have to kind of be cognizant. My son

918
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: had hockey practice the other day. He scored a goal.

919
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 5: I lifted my arms. I can't do that. Yeah, but

920
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 5: after six weeks, guys, this is how much technology is incredible.

921
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 5: They said, Yeah, you basically live your life like you

922
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 5: a no pacemaker. I play flag football. They're like, you

923
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 5: can play flag football, doesn't matter.

924
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: Really, you can place weeks after surgery, can go back

925
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: and you could do whatever.

926
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: How big is it? Because I remember seeing them and

927
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: they're pretty big. They're like a stop one.

928
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say depends on how you think big.

929
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 5: But it's about a uh.

930
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: You can see it through your chest. Yeah, Oh my god.

931
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: It's a it's about a half a size a half dollar.

932
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 5: It's a little thing.

933
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: You can see it through his shirt. Ladies and gentlemen,

934
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: he's just given the three D.

935
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: It's amazing, right, Yeah, And I can't go through metal

936
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 5: detectors anymore though, So when I.

937
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: That could be a good thing.

938
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 5: Well, when I go on the road. I actually had

939
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 5: to talk with the bills yesterday. I saw pr and

940
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, when we go on the road, like

941
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 5: I can't go through the metal detector when the bus

942
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: pulls into the stadium. Yeah, so these are little things.

943
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: I got to the airport security stadium security of all of.

944
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: It being you're a microwave. Always heard like being your

945
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: a microwave, Like it's.

946
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 5: Funny you say that. The actual that they said, that's

947
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 5: a old wives tale. You can't now. I was told, hey,

948
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 5: you can be on your cell phone, just don't put

949
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: it in your jacket pocket.

950
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: Oh I might forget that. You forget that all the time,

951
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: just you know it in right now.

952
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: So wait, you can't go through the metal detector. It'll

953
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: do something bad to it.

954
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 5: It'll basically yeah, And look if I really went through

955
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 5: once or twice, I don't think it's an issue, but

956
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 5: you never want to the more you do that, it's

957
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 5: kind of it. It's magnetic basically, right. So I have

958
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 5: to tell people, Hey, I come here to Indy, I

959
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 5: have a pace and.

960
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: Don't drive an electric vehicle and never mind. Now, it's

961
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 3: so great to visit with you. We look forward to

962
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: seeing you when the Bills come visiting this season.

963
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: And for barbecue, we're definitely we're definitely gonna. Oh that's

964
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: one more thing.

965
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: So you took us out in Buffalo, and I wanted

966
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: to say this, You were the greatest host because you

967
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: took us out to a restaurant, great ice cream place.

968
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: You took us out to the one restaurant that ran

969
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: out of wings that night. So that's okay, give me

970
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: one other food that Buffalo is known for or that's

971
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: good in Buffalo other than wings, that authentically Buffalo.

972
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: What is it?

973
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 5: Beef on we weck? Yeah, it's a kimo wek role.

974
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 5: It's a salted role and it's it's got roast beef

975
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: on it and as you sauce you dip it into

976
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 5: it's called beef on weck. Matt Wick don't say beef

977
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 5: on wick. Yeah, people say that he might. Step Dad

978
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 5: says it. It's we e c k beef on we kim.

979
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the it's a vegan thing. It's funny because

980
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: you get animated talking about it.

981
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: But I'm like you know if somebody starts calling our

982
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: barbecue like sloppy Joe's, I'm like, no, no, no, that's not barbecue,

983
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: like yeah, be fun.

984
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Weck absolutely, And I.

985
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 5: Promise the next place I take you will not run

986
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 5: out of wings, because that that should never happen where

987
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 5: I take anybody.

988
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: Last one, how's your last place baseball team.

989
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 4: Gonna do this year?

990
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 5: Oh my god? This guy?

991
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: Wait, who's a Yankee?

992
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 5: Last place?

993
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: Now?

994
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: I will say, how are the Orioles not favorite to

995
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 5: win the East? The Orioles are? They are really really

996
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 5: looking good?

997
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're young and up and coming.

998
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 5: To favor the Yankees to win the East because it's

999
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 5: just because they're just the yes and they have one

1000
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 5: soda now and I get.

1001
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: It, but come on, everybody's setting them up for the

1002
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: big fail. That's what it is. That's exactly what it is.

1003
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, all right, guys.

1004
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: Thanks, that's my dude.

1005
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: SalCo Pacco and Mark had said before he got started, Man,

1006
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: he is the mayor of that town.

1007
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: There's no doubt. They love him in Buffalo and I

1008
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 4: love him. Man. We got to know each other at

1009
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 4: the twenty fifteen Combine.

1010
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: Stay in contact ever sense the pacemaker story is absolutely incredible.

1011
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: So salas you know, PSA to everybody out there, if

1012
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: you start feeling something, make sure you go say something,

1013
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: because you never know. He didn't want to do it,

1014
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: found out, you know what, Hey, this is a better

1015
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 2: way to live. And I think I made his wife

1016
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: and his son Max very very happy. So good stuff

1017
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: from Sala Capaccio, great stuff coming from Jeff Kaplan. Mark

1018
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: previewed it a little bit earlier when he said we

1019
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: were gonna have this on at the Combine. The medical

1020
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: staffs are as important as any group.

1021
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: That's going to be in Indianapolis.

1022
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: Jeff Kaplan talked with Drew Doherty about what the week

1023
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: is like for him.

1024
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: That's next on Texans All Access. I get asked this

1025
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: question a lot, especially when I'm going to the Combine. Well,

1026
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 4: what do you guys do with the combine? I'm like,

1027
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 4: for us, it's easy.

1028
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: We just talked all of our pals and the media

1029
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: and talk about their teams, what's upcoming.

1030
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: We get to see the prospects, interview that kind of stuff.

1031
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: But the most important people at the Combine are the

1032
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: medical professional.

1033
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 4: Cheff happens. We're going in to the combine for a

1034
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 4: long time, and.

1035
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: He gave us a little peek behind the curtain as

1036
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 2: to what they do on a daily basis with everything

1037
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 2: going on at the combine.

1038
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 4: What's a typical day at the combine?

1039
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 6: Like for you, Jeff, typical day at the combine is

1040
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 6: we meet at Starbucks at six thirty am.

1041
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 5: As soon as Starbucks opens, make.

1042
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 6: Our way over to Lucas Oil Stadium by seven fifteen,

1043
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 6: seven thirty, get ready for physicals to start at eight am.

1044
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 6: We're usually down doing physicals from eight am to four

1045
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 6: pm four thirty. Then we regroup in the evenings and

1046
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 6: between the athletic trainers in the NFL and the physicians

1047
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 6: in the NFL, there's a continued education program every night,

1048
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 6: so we usually get done around eight or nine o'clock

1049
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 6: at night.

1050
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: Some people might say physicals.

1051
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are throwing football, is blocking and tackling,

1052
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: but the physicals are probably the most important part of

1053
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 3: the job.

1054
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 5: Part of the job interview.

1055
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I think we take the standards. We want

1056
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 6: to make sure that all players are physically fit. A

1057
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 6: lot of players in their football career have never even

1058
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 6: had an EKG, so it's just really hard. So what

1059
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 6: we try to do is give them the most comprehensive

1060
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 6: physical of their life. Talking with Houston Texans Executive director

1061
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 6: of Player Health Jeff Kaplan, how stressful do you.

1062
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 4: Think that can be for a player.

1063
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 6: I think anytime you go on a job interview, it's

1064
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 6: stressful for anybody, especially when you really want your job.

1065
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 6: And coming to the NFL Combine, it's just like being

1066
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 6: on a job interview, and if you really want to

1067
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 6: be good at what you want to do and you

1068
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 6: really want to get a good job, and then I

1069
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 6: think you can put a lot of stress on yourself.

1070
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: But I think most of the players.

1071
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 6: Handled really well. We try to make it a very

1072
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 6: welcoming situation and we try to just cater to all

1073
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 6: their needs. Yeah, and most of these guys are handling

1074
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 6: it so well because they've been through so much and

1075
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 6: they're the best of what they do.

1076
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 4: It's kind of goes hand in hand when you say.

1077
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I would say most of the players that

1078
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 6: come to the NFL Combine, they've worked with athletic trainers,

1079
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 6: they work with physicians throughout their career. They know the

1080
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 6: medical process.

1081
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: They understand it because they've been.

1082
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 6: In their athletic training rooms their whole college career, so

1083
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 6: they're used to.

1084
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Speaker 4: Working with people.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I'll think a lot of it's foreign

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Speaker 6: to them.

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Speaker 1: How many of these have you done? How many you've

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Speaker 1: been to it?

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Speaker 6: That's funny you said, I was thinking about that on

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Speaker 6: my way over here. At least twenty five, maybe twenty seven.

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Speaker 6: This is maybe my twenty seventh.

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Speaker 4: And it changes and progresses and gets different each.

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Speaker 3: Year, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I would say there's a big emphasis on the player

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Speaker 6: experience and making sure the players get a first class

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Speaker 6: experience from the time they land in Indy to the

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Speaker 6: time they leave.

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Speaker 1: And that involves the.

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Speaker 6: Physicals, that involves their experience with the teams, That involves interviews,

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Speaker 6: that involves everything they have to do. I know that

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Speaker 6: the NFL and the people here in Indianapolis that run

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Speaker 6: the Combine have worked really hard at making a first

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Speaker 6: class experience for everyone. Talking with Houston Texans Executive director

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Speaker 6: of Player Health Jeff Kaplan, tell me about your interaction,

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Speaker 6: your collaboration with Nick Cassario and Dimiko Ryans when you're

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Speaker 6: going through these this is Combine experience. So I think

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Speaker 6: our job at the Combine is to gather information we

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Speaker 6: come up here, we gather information, then our work really

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Speaker 6: starts when we get back to Houston and it becomes

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Speaker 6: a very collaborative program and a very collaborative model. Nick

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Speaker 6: and Dimico have really demanded a collaborative approach to everything

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Speaker 6: we do at NRG.

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Speaker 1: Stadium, and this is just a small example of it.

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Speaker 1: When we're getting ready for the draft.

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Speaker 6: It's a collaborative approach between Nick Demiko, the coaches, the scouts,

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Speaker 6: and the medical staff as well as the performance team.

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Speaker 6: It's a very important collaborative approach. It's something that maybe

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Speaker 6: I haven't asked you that I need to get out

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Speaker 6: there people ought to know about. I think that the

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Speaker 6: people here on the medical side really care about the players,

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Speaker 6: and we really care about making a first class experience,

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Speaker 6: and we try to treat them that way.

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Speaker 4: Man, it's great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate Jefferston by of course, Drew myman SalCo Paccio stopping

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Speaker 2: in with his pacemaker and talking about his Yankees a

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Speaker 2: little bit. And of course Mark Vandermirin, you guys were listening.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. We'll see tomorrow buddy. As always,

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Speaker 4: go Texans.