1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I heart radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: So I'm very excited about this episode because Catherine is 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: joining us again obviously, and she hates to talk about sex. 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: And I just so happened to look at the rundown oh, 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: like you know, I would say a couple of days ago, 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, we have got 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: this sex Okay, So this girl, I think it's Jaya. 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: She's an award winning somatic sexologist, coming on. You know. 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Our therapist is like loving this though, Oh for sure, 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Well but but why tell tell the tell the people? 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: Why actually? Because I want to know too, Like do 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: you want to share my homework? Yeah? Sure, so, lovely 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: therapist of ours. You know the best part is that 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: she doesn't give you the homework in person. What do 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: you mean? Like, she emails you later. It's like, here's 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: your homework, which is very smart because it's like I 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: probably would have fodder on it a person, but so 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: she emails me. She's like homework. Um, And basically she 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: asked me to watch this that what's that called sex life? No, 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: like love sex goop whatever? That? Um? So not sex life? No, 21 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: not sex life? Oh I thought she made you watch 22 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: sex Life. No. I mean it's very informational, but is 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: it like a Netflix show? It is a Netflix show. Okay, 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: tell me more and I'm going to tell you exactly 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: the name of it. But anyway, and I'm like, are 26 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: you freaking kidding me? Like, of course, why does she 27 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: want you to watch the show? Probably because I don't 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: like talking about sex? But is there something else in 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: there where she's like, do you like? Do is there 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: like was she trying to compare, like trying to get 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: comparisons or what was actually the homework? Just watch it 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: or watch it and then like we kind of just 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: talked about I don't know, this is a lot a 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: lot for me. Basically, it was very informational and like 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: one of the um therapist per sex. There were a 36 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: couple on the show with different couples, which was very fascinating. 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean I was like, one of the things I 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: took away is like I can't believe these people can 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: do this in front of a camera and in front 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: of somebody they do well. Like one of them like 41 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: is like what type are you? And it's like you 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: know you've got like, um, I don't know what all 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: the types were, but it's like you like like kinky 44 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: or like you like sensory or there's like five types 45 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: or whatever, and they put a person on a table 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: and like yeah, so you know, and then yeah, and 47 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: then they're like they're like blind, like they have them 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: do it. Like so if it was like kinky, like 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: one lady was like kinky and her husband was not. 50 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: He was more just penetration. One of them is just 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: like this sounds like cancer therapy, but go ahead, or 52 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: like a version of it. I don't know. It makes me. 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: The name of the show is sex, Love and Goop. 54 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow isn't as like as part of it, okay. 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: So like so for example, like if you and Nick 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: were to do it, you'd be like what he likes, 57 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Let's say it's sensual touch or whatever, and then that 58 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: and then the partner has to then do that to 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: the other partners. So like you figure out what your 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: type is. And so like this woman was kinky surprisingly 61 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: like she had no clue and he was like wait 62 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: what and like he's just not like score, but it's 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: not his thing. So it's like so she's on the 64 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: table and he like has all these different like things 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: and like doing some I'm done, so wait, which one 66 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: are you? I don't know. I'm not going to myself. 67 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: I can. I want to see you being kinky. No, 68 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. She asked me that question and I 69 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, I don't know. I watched 70 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: like four episodes, which the other ones kinky was like, 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: I'll watch more episodes and no, okay. But then there 72 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: was other things like then there's another therapist that just 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: like had them connect on. And then there was like 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: a lesbian couple that you know, one was very like 75 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: they had like you unclothed and look at yourself in 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: the mirror. So there was a lot of good stuff 77 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: and there that's like you know, and I was like 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: I just really took away like I would love to 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: be that brave. I mean, they're very brave. Like then 80 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: there's an old couple you know that's like and they're 81 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: doing it in front of cameras and in front of people, 82 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: and some of them got uncomfortable with some of them didn't. 83 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: It was it was interesting. I'll say that remember um, 84 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: Mike and I did tantra therapy in l A, you know, 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: because he had like that sexual intimacy issue um, and 86 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, it was so uncomfortable and like you're like 87 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: dry humping in front of somebody, and like even me, 88 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: like I was uncomfortable. I was just like this is 89 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: like how, like why like can't we just like have 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: good sexual chem street Like I don't understand, like how 91 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: it's now like we have to have a therapist to 92 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: help us. Like, yeah, I did feel like a lot. 93 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: I kind of felt that way too. But I could 94 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: also see in some instances, like that one couple that 95 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: keeps sticking out my mind, her discovering that she was 96 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: kinky and him not. And I mean he was uncomfortable, 97 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: Like you could tell he was uncomfortable even doing a 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: few little things. I mean they weren't having sex on 99 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: the table obviously, but anyway, so this makes Katherine so uncomfortable, 100 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: and I'm so sorry. But I was. I have a 101 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: movie coming out on Lifetime. It's called The Holiday Fix Up, 102 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: and I was doing some press and I was like, 103 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: oh crap, Like I remember Riley asked me to take 104 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: a quiz um because you know, for this sex tantric 105 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: person or whatever, and so I was like, Katherine, can 106 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: you take this quiz really fast? I was like quick 107 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: quiz and I pulled it up and then she gets 108 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: on the zoom to do her press and I'm over 109 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: here like I'm gonna kill you. I'm going to kill you. 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: What was the quiz? Oh? What was the questions? Like 111 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: what like do you like for play? Do you like romantic? 112 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: Do you like massages? Like? What kind of music do 113 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: you like playing? Like all the things? Sanna vibe, I 114 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: want to vibe. Well you should have taken the quiz. 115 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't have the results. If I have a podential 116 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: suitor listening, I like a vibe, like give me a vibe, 117 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: put on like some like freaking JP sacs like more 118 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: of you. I just want you like I want to 119 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: like like give me a vibe, like I want to 120 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: be like sexual and sensual. Okay okay, but then like 121 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: I also could like just be thrown up against a 122 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: wall to like a lot of the questions. Here's the 123 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: funniest part. A lot of the questions. At the end, 124 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: it was like all of the above, and I wanted 125 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: to be like, where is none of the So I 126 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: just picked one really like none of the above on 127 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: certain things like sense, oh god, don't else to be 128 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: on wind down and then not talk about winding down. 129 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I have said, I'm not going to get into that. 130 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember a good example. Okay, I'm trying to 131 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: remember she's hating me right now. We might we might 132 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: break up after this. So yeah, so let's just completely 133 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: change the subject. Um, how was Ireland? Oh my god? 134 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: It was? Well, first of all, did you have any fema? Yeah? Ye, sorry, definitely, 135 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: It's okay. I think I don't remember if you talked 136 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: about it. But Katherine was supposed to go with her 137 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: passport got expired, so um, but no, I had. It 138 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: was so much fun. And I remember my therapist she's 139 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: she had just gotten through like the day that I 140 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: went to her. I think you were like sick actually too, 141 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: you were just to go the same day. But she 142 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: just looks really pretty. I was like, Amy, you're just 143 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: like the prettiest I love you. And I'm like, you know, 144 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, it's just it's been a really beautiful morning. 145 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: And I was just like, what, like, you know why. 146 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: She's like, well, she's like I just sat with about 147 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: ten parents who you know, I have lost children, and 148 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my god, Amy. I was like, how, like, 149 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: how do you do that, like, and I so I 150 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: start asking her questions because it's like, I can't imagine 151 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: losing my child. And she goes, you know what she's like, 152 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: there's just something so beautiful about all these women sitting 153 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: sitting down and around each other and just supporting each other. 154 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: And she goes and she's like, it's it's beautiful to witness, 155 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: it's beautiful to be someone that can help them. And 156 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: and she goes, you know what she's like, someone said, 157 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: one of them, the women who recently just lost one 158 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: of their kids, said I'm I'm on a journey of 159 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: chasing joy. And she goes, and I she goes. When 160 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: she said that, she's like, I thought of you. She's like, 161 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: that's what I want you to do. I want you 162 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: to chase joy. And and I just I brought that 163 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: into my Ireland trip because I feel like I'm kind 164 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: of spreading my wings a little bit, getting out of 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: the comfort zone with a lot of things and um, 166 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: and this was, you know, a version of that chasing 167 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: joy where I was like, I just want to go 168 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: because a lot of times I live my life where 169 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm afraid to do this because I'm afraid 170 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm any anxiety or I'm afraid that like what what 171 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: if this happens? Or what if this? And and I 172 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: really I just wanted to get all of those things 173 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: out of my head where I don't go that that 174 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: that's the first thing that I go to is fear. Um. 175 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: And so you know, with Ireland, I was just like 176 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: I just want to go and just be so from 177 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the second I step on that plane, I want to 178 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: be thankful. I want to be grateful, and I want 179 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: to just exude this like energy that I sometimes envying 180 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: other people, Like I want to feel that and I 181 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: want other people to feel that. So you know, we 182 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: get on a plane and it's just came besties with 183 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: the flight attendants and laughing and like just from this, 184 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: like literally the second we got on that air in 185 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: this flight, it was just this kind of thing like Okay, 186 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm chasing joy and I'm going to have every 187 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: moment that if I do have any fear. But I 188 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: didn't even have not one ounce. Like I remember going 189 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: to Scotland, um, and I enjoyed Scotland, but you know 190 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: it was with my ex or whatever, and I had 191 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: so much anxiety and like just like this heaviness and 192 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: it's like but now like I walk around like so 193 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: much lighter and like and I just had so much 194 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: fun and every moment that I was presented. Now, granted 195 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: there was like a little work situation where I got 196 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: frustrated and I was really tired. I think those things, 197 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, fine, But like on the day that 198 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: we had, you know, that the off day and we 199 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: got to go to Galway and Cliffs of Mohair or 200 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: however say it. I mean, it was just like I 201 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: had this moment where I started crying on the cliffs 202 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: because I was just like, I'm so blessed to be 203 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: here first and foremost. Second of all, there's just just 204 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: there's just a different energy that I felt when I 205 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: was there, and how how I felt when I was there, 206 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: and like who I was being there was always the 207 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: person and I wanted to be and so it was 208 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: just like this, like I just kind of started crying, 209 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: and um, it was just a beautiful It was a 210 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: beautiful trip truly, and it was you know, obviously I 211 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: would have loved for you to be there, um when 212 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: you were very much missed, But you know, obviously Pam 213 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: and I had a blast, and you know, we were 214 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: able to create a really fun little bucket list of 215 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: things to check off and it was fun. Yeah, that's great. 216 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Well it's interesting because then when we went to Wilmington's, 217 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean everyone kept commenting about how happy you look 218 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: and how light you are. That was really really cool. 219 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I know that was for sure. It's kind 220 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: of and but then it made me cry because I'm like, man, 221 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: I was really waited, and it's so weird because you 222 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: don't really in the moment, even outsiders like you kind 223 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: of see if you don't really see it until you 224 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: see then how you are now, is it totally different? Yeah, 225 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: you're just lighter, a lighter and lighter is a really 226 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: good way to put it. I don't know, it's kind 227 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: of hard to explain, but you yeah, I mean I was, yeah, 228 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: the same. Just shocked how many people came up to 229 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: me and they're like, you know you were you know, 230 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: you were still lovely last year, but like you're just 231 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: this so much happier person, and I'm like, wow, like 232 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: I just I don't I guess I never realized how much. 233 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I knew that the infidelity and all that 234 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: stuff and are relationship, how how much that was impacting 235 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: my stress and my energy and my thoughts. And I 236 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: got that, but then I don't. I really don't think 237 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: how truly. I thought it was just like in those 238 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: moments when I was triggered, but I mean it was 239 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: now looking back, I'm like, man nose, it was like 240 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: every day. And I just think now you can kind 241 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: of be fully present where you we just couldn't be 242 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: fully present before. I think that's a big difference, even 243 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: with the fans, Like even in that two minutes that 244 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: you may be able to talk to them about, you know, 245 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: their struggles or whatever. You're just present. And I think 246 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: that and I didn't have to like yeah, and like 247 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: to be able to travel and I be like, oh, 248 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: I wonder what's happening at home and like what am 249 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: I going to find? It's like, oh god, so nice 250 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: just not not have that anymore. So yeah, No, it 251 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: felt great, and oh god, it was so fun to 252 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: connect with everyone in Wilmington's. I loved the frenzy that 253 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: caused when I posted that photo of me in Austin, 254 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: like is this real life? I mean, granted, I did 255 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: give him like the largest hug on stage because I 256 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: didn't see even eleven years old nuts. So like when 257 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: I saw him and he surprised me at the show, 258 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I did you know one of those legs 259 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: wrap around things and jumped up on him. And then 260 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: the next day I posted like, you know, Julian and 261 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Alex got together and everyone thought that it was like 262 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: basically us announcing a relationship, and I'm like, hey, so 263 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: I texted him inside it was like hey Austin. I 264 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: was like, um, everyone thinks we're dating like l O 265 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: l l l O l um, but I mean I 266 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: love Austin so much. He lives in Austin. I live 267 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: in l A. I mean we are both single, but um, 268 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: you don't live in l A. Oh my gotta live 269 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: in Nashville. But either way, different city, that's right, different city. 270 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: But no, I mean I love him, and who knows, 271 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: You never know, You just never know. But no right now, 272 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: but it's fun. It was so much fun. And then 273 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's fun to connect with Seawan Tala. I 274 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: just love her to death too. So um, but we're 275 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: gonna talk about sex and we're gonna get real uncomfortable 276 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: for Catherine. I don't worry I'll ask all the questions. Um, 277 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: so let's take a break and then let's get Jie 278 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: on the show. Hello, Hi, Jaya, Hi, I'm so excited 279 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: to talk to you. I'm like beyond excited. You know 280 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: who's not excited this one. And it's not because and 281 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: I hope you don't take that like, yeah, it's not 282 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: It's not a personal thing. It's just a sexual thing, right, 283 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: I completely understand. So yeah, because I mean I can 284 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: talk about sex till I'm blue in the face. I 285 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: love sex. I like talking about it. I like like 286 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: a to z Like I'm like, I'm here for it. 287 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Let's let's like talk all about it. This one's like 288 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't want you to mention the word so you 289 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: cannot have the most polar opposite women. I'll sit here 290 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: and learn a lot ins Fine. Yeah, but her her therapist, 291 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: our therapist actually gave her an assignment to like watch 292 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: this like sexual show. Was the name of it again, 293 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: sex Love and Goop? Sex Love and Goop? Have you 294 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: ever heard of it? Yeah? Just a little bit, Okay, 295 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: So and so she was I don't know again, because 296 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: Katherine won't tell us a lot of why she gave 297 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: her that assignment. But um is that she was kind 298 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: of like going through you know, like if this person 299 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: was like kinky, then um, you know, then then the 300 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: partner does something like kinky to them. Is that part 301 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: of the work that you do too, because you also 302 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: do tantra? Right? Yeah, so the erotic blueprints what you're 303 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: seeing in the show in Sex, Love and Goop where 304 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm working with a couple who has the mismatch. Oh 305 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: my gosh, see she's on the show. She's on the show, right, Yeah, 306 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: she does, so she can explain it so much better. 307 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: Oh oh my god. Stop wait Okay, that is hilariably. 308 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: Do you know the show just a little? I'm like, 309 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: she because I haven't seen it obviously, but like, is 310 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: she like the she's one of them. I was like, 311 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: she looks really familiar. Oh my god, this is this 312 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: is a thing. Okay, So why do you think her 313 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: therapists are therapist made her watch that? I think because 314 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: the show has a lot of education in it where 315 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: we start to open up this conversation about sexuality, and 316 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I think especially for people who it's like oh it's 317 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: I shouldn't talk about it, or it gives a different 318 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: viewpoint of sexuality in a way that's really I'll say, 319 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: I'll use the word whole them, but also very true 320 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: to watching these people go through a transformation from maybe 321 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: having a difficulty talking about it or communicating to understanding 322 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: who they are. I think that that's a big piece 323 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: of it, is who am I as an erotic being? 324 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: And the show helps you that. Very first episode we 325 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: talked about the erotic blueprints, and it kind of helps 326 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: you start to get an idea of, well, maybe I 327 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: am more energetic or maybe I am more sentual. It 328 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: isn't just about intercourse. It isn't just about It's about 329 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: my whole being and who I am. And you don't 330 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: know why you don't like sex because it's like it 331 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: wasn't talked about in your childhood. Is like my mom 332 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: and I were like sitting around me like that, like 333 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: you know, Southern conservative, not talked about not you know, 334 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: and it's just then you just it's a hard thing 335 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: to break. I feel like, so then right there, you're 336 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: getting an education. You know. I asked people, oh, did 337 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: you get a sex education? Did your parents talk to 338 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: you about sex? And they'll be like, no, I and 339 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: get an education. But my argument is you actually did 340 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: get an education, and your education there was don't talk 341 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: about it. It's not okay, it's something to be shameful about. 342 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: We get those messages very early on. So then what 343 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: do you do with that when someone is in that 344 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: space where it is like uncomfortable for them, Like, what 345 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: do you suggest, like do you suggest you know, doing 346 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: these kind of blueprint? Um? I think because because I'll 347 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: say she she took the quiz um, but like she 348 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: was even saying like I wish there was a d 349 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: none of the above, like you know, like is this 350 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: some of it was like all of them? But I'm like, 351 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: well want all of it? Like give me, Like you know, 352 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: She's like, I want none of the above? Can I 353 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: ask you a question about that? Sure? I love so 354 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: much I need I need Amy, our therapist to listen too. 355 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: That my face is so does it feel like you 356 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: just don't know about the responses to the quiz or 357 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: that it's just you just don't have a desire, you 358 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: just don't like sex, like so there's so many different 359 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: things to start to unravel. This is it the shame 360 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: and conditioning you're programmed about or does it feel like 361 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: authentically like I don't know. I could just take or 362 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: leave it. Some of it I don't know, Like some 363 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: of the questions, I was like, I really don't know. Yeah, 364 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: so some of this I don't know, and some of 365 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: it is I feel like since after having babies, the 366 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: desires just not there as much either. M hmmm. So 367 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: we look at that, we look at desire. We want 368 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: to look at four things. When when I'm hearing is 369 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: like after baby, after I had my son boy, my 370 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: pelvic floor was blew out, my fourmones crashed, like all 371 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: kinds of things happened, and I joke, I kind of 372 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: went from sex goddess to freaked out mom because this 373 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: is my career. And so there's a natural thing that 374 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: happens sometimes when we have children. And so we want 375 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: to look at four things. One is what's happening in 376 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: your biochemistry? Have you had your hormones checked just to 377 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: see maybe t stosteronees low or estrogen's out of balance, 378 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Like there's different things biochemically that could be happening to 379 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: what happened physically. You know, did you have a tear 380 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: when you were giving birth and that can affect things, 381 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: um did you? And so then also what's happening emotionally, 382 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: so we have chemically physically emotionally, are you feeling cared 383 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: for all your sexual needs? And when I say sexual needs, 384 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean like the bonding need or the oxytocin need 385 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: being met by you know, cuddling with your kids. And 386 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 1: I don't mean like that in a erotic way. Actually 387 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: that in the way of like you're getting that those 388 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: touch needs met through the relationship there versus the emotional 389 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: needs with a partner or did you feel supported like 390 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: there's just so many things that could be happening on 391 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: the emotional level. And then the final one is the 392 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: bio energetic level. If you did have a tear that 393 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: goes right through the meridian? Did you have a terror? 394 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: What is it that hurts? Because I when we say 395 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: like it hurts, no, So long story short, when I 396 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: was younger, I had to have like a surgery because 397 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: of some just anyway, and so yes, it is painful. 398 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: So I have a lot of I have I think 399 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: a lot of those different things. So there is a 400 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: painful part of it. And then off also emotional And 401 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: although it makes sense completely, I mean, if sex is painful, 402 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: why would you want to have it? My friend is 403 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: Sara Parel says, you have to have sex worth wanting 404 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: and love her. And so there's a number of things 405 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: you can do with that pain. And one if they're 406 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: scar tissue, there's ways that scar tissue remediation to help 407 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: heal the pain. There's publvic floor massage or seeing a 408 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: sex logical body worker, which you also see in the 409 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: show could be also why you're therapist recommended it. We 410 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: have um Darshana who's working with the two women in 411 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: the show to show how she's helping with pain. And 412 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: then if you if you know you feel too like, 413 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: oh gosh, I can't go see someone, one of the 414 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: ways to just start is by getting up your finger, 415 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: putting it right on the spot and just holding and 416 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: breathing with yourself and letting the emotion or letting right, 417 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: just going slow with your own self, just like you 418 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: see in the show shann To go with the women 419 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: there that we often see pain start to diminish through 420 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: that kind of work. Interesting, that is very interesting. So 421 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: I did a tantra session with my ex um when 422 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: we were still married, and I and something that kind 423 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: of came up from me when I was talking about it, 424 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: is like I understand that couples have, um, how do 425 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: I say this, like different sexual needs and different sexual wants, 426 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: but also at the same time, in my mind, I'm like, 427 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: should it be that hard, like you know, to have 428 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: like just sex and connect and like because for me, 429 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know why we have to go 430 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: to a therapist to like figure out why our sex 431 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: life isn't good. Like it's like it's almost like discouraging 432 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah, yeah, and that's something I'd love 433 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: to just like normalizely to get help. Like there's a 434 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: joke another show and I said, well, we could have 435 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: sex like squirrels, Like squirrels know how to have sex. 436 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: Like there's that, there's there at that, and then my 437 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: partner says, and then there's becoming an erotic artist. Then 438 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: there's having sex that's like really good and mind blowing. 439 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: And oftentimes we don't even know what's possible when it 440 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: comes to sex, and and so we're trying to do 441 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: it like, oh, it should be just natural and it 442 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: should just be this easy, simple thing. Well, yeah, sex 443 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: is you put slot and this lot be if that's 444 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: your definition of sex, and you do you mush around 445 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: until something explodes. And that's one version, you know, that's 446 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: one version of what sex could look like, and and 447 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: then there's all the other infinite possibilities of what sex 448 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: could look like. And so there's there's not absolutely nothing 449 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: wrong with seeing a sex coach to better your relationship, 450 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: to better your sexuality, to learn more about what's possible. 451 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 1: And I'm curious what your blueprint is? Yeah, do you know? 452 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I haven't taken I didn't take 453 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: the quiz, So I'm curious homework for you. Okay, it's 454 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: take the quiz and find I said it would take 455 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: a minute. Let's say if I've gotten it yet, I 456 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: don't think. Um, yeah, what what kind of different blueprints 457 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: are there? So there's five erotic blueprints. The first one 458 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: is someone who's energetic, and the energetic is turned on 459 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: by space I need to tease yearning. And then the 460 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: second one is essensual, and the sensual someone who's turned 461 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: on by all of their senses being ignited. So like 462 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: slow dancing, cuddling candles. I think that's me. Why why 463 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: are you looking at me like that? You don't think 464 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: it's true? No, I just I got that. I think 465 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: I just answered that anyway you did. I can see 466 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: that though, being more sensual and I don't love like affection, 467 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and relaxation like relax usually dream sex instead 468 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: of relaxed, especially because of the pain like that. Yeah anyway. Yeah. 469 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: So so the sexual is the next one, and it's 470 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: what we think of a sex in our culture. So 471 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: it's intercourse, it's nudity, it's orgasms, it's penetration. And then 472 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the next one is kinky, and the kinky someone who's 473 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: turned on by the taboo, and that's whatever is taboo 474 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, I'm probably not. I'm either the sensual 475 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: or the what was the other and after sensual sexual? Yeah, 476 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: because and I think that's where I have where I 477 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: can call out my faults and it is sometimes I 478 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: for me, intimacy is sex, whether it's I get off 479 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: or if the person gets off or like like I 480 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: can't even I mean, if we're really going there. You know, 481 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: I've I've always been like the giver, and I'm always 482 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: been like, you know, ended at the end of the marriage, 483 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, do you just not care that? I don't ever? 484 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And it's because then I 485 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: started to be like I want to now, Like I'm now, 486 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'm getting older, and my hormones 487 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: are like phone through me. I'm like, now I would 488 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: like to have and so I think. But for a 489 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: long time I've always just been like, Okay, we're close 490 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: because we just had sex, regardless of like if I 491 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: came or whatever. Um. But then I also need to 492 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: realize too that like sex isn't just that's not like 493 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: that really, we weren't really being intimate, Like there's other 494 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: ways to be intimate with your partner than just having 495 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: sex totally. And I think this ties into the limited 496 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: definition of sex that comes from living in a sexually blueprinted, 497 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: dominant culture. We have this culture that lives in that 498 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: blueprint and forgets the other blueprints, and in that culture, 499 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: it's that sex equals intercourse equals orgasm equals this, and 500 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: we miss out on the connection or the energetic expansion 501 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: that can happen with the other blueprints, or the shape shifters, 502 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: which I didn't talk about yet, but the shape shifter 503 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: someone who loves it all and they're turned on by 504 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: all of it. And I find that out of the 505 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: blueprints that the most starving of all the blueprints because 506 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: they can shape shift to be what other people want, 507 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: but they're not necessarily they're not like here's what I 508 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: need and I need it all and I need three 509 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: hours of that, and that sex isn't just this ten 510 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: minute thing that is I say, there's a standard narrative 511 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: which is like kiss, kiss and touch, touch and lick lick, 512 00:27:51,520 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: and then we go to inter punkt dam and so 513 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: I think we need to step out of that narrative, 514 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: especially when we look at the majority of people are 515 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: not just sexually blueprinted. We actually are this whole range 516 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: of full spectrum sexuality that does involve love and intimacy 517 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: and connection and outer course and hours of maybe not 518 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: even touching in the In the show, in episode two, 519 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: I have a touchless orgasm that I demonstrate. Oh my god, 520 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to see. I watched four episodes. You watched 521 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: four episodes. That's impressive. But I saw that. That was impressive. 522 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: See that's like, oh, I want to like, I love 523 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: that that you love the show. Sure, I think that 524 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: would be great. Like I want to find that like 525 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: in my next person. I want to be able to 526 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: have like a touchless orgasm like that. How How like 527 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean, can you just imagine like that, like that 528 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: the chemistry and like the you should watch it like passion, 529 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: like I just want like the passion and like I 530 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: don't know. Ye, yeah, it really does sound like you 531 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: are essentual sexual. I love that. And I think that 532 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: this myth to that, like cis gendered, women are not 533 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: sexually blueprinted. I'm my highest a sexual and then I'm 534 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: energetic right underneath it. And so if you do the 535 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: more in depth quiz, you'll get all these percentages of 536 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: exactly what you are and so and then it's interesting 537 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: to see my partner, he's the opposite of me, So 538 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: he's primarily kinky, sensual, and and I think it's interesting 539 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: because we attract these opposites. Now, if you're dating, like 540 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: you were saying, oh, my next person like a shape shifter. 541 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: If you can find a shape shifter to date, or 542 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: like somebody who has high energetic there you go with 543 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: the touchless orgasms because they're going to be more in 544 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: tune to dancing with you that way. I'm just gonna 545 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: be like, Hi, thanks for taking me out on date. 546 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: Can you take this quiz really fast? Like, let's just 547 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: get to the let's see what's under the hood. Like 548 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: when my hair dresser said today, he's like, before you 549 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: take the car, we gotta see what's under the hood. 550 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: If you know what I mean, what do you think 551 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: is like the biggest misconception about sex? I think the 552 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: biggest misconception about sex is that it means intercourse. I 553 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: think that we limit what sex is by limiting its 554 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: intercourse because and this is one of the questions on 555 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: the quiz, which is, well, why do you have sex? 556 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: And I think that this is an important question because 557 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: I have sex for much more than just the physical 558 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: aspect of it. I have sex to connect. I have 559 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: sex because I it opens me spiritually. I can connect 560 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: to something greater than myself. I I connect with me 561 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: in it. The pleasure that I experienced fuels my life. 562 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: Like there's so many different reasons for us to have 563 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: sex that isn't just about intercourse, and I think that 564 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: really limits it. I when when you're just thinking about 565 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: that question and like why you have sex, I think 566 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: I go to it honestly in not a good way 567 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: where it's like yes because I enjoy it. But I 568 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: think if I was being totally honest with myself, it 569 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: would be because I want to feel chosen. Mm hmm 570 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: like that. I'm like, if I get that, then I'm 571 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: like I'm chosen right, which is like messed right, that's 572 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: messed up. I'm I think a lot of us feel 573 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: like if I'm having sex, then I'm chosen, I'm loved. 574 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: Um it feeds us and in our egoic way, and 575 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: that that that doesn't mean it's bad. I think. I 576 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: think that there's part of us that has to stop 577 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: making ourselves wrong things. And when we stop making ourselves 578 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: wrong and we just accept like, here's who I, here's 579 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 1: how I am right now, and is that serving me? 580 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: I think that that's always a really good question. Or 581 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: how about if I choose myself ultimately? My front door 582 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: says sex, But behind that door is how can we 583 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: love ourselves unconditionally? And how can we accept ourselves unconditionally? 584 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: And I think sex is a pathway to that awakening 585 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: of loving ourselves and going Okay, I choose me, So 586 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: then how do I respond differently with sex if I 587 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: already am chosen? Yeah, I hear that. It's very What 588 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: do you think about like in the dating world, like, 589 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: how how soon do you think that you someone should 590 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: have sex with somebody else when you're ready. Okay, yeah, 591 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: you know. I don't think that there's any rule. I 592 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: think as soon as we make up some rule, then 593 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: we're operating under that rule, and that rule may not 594 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: be appropriate, and it might depend on the person that 595 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: we're with. That's I I love just giving people the 596 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: quiz and seeing who they are erotically and getting to 597 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: note them a little bit. I have another thing called 598 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: the sex Communication Checklist, and it's what they want to 599 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: do sexually or what they're willing to do sexually. And 600 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: these are conversations I'd like to have before I have 601 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: sex with someone, and then I see how they respond 602 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: to know how close they get to me, and how 603 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: how I would be with them. So if they respond 604 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: with I'm not taking those quizzes and I don't want 605 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: to talk about sex, then I know that they're not 606 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: the person who I want to enter into an intimate 607 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: relationship with because they're unwilling to be in the conversation 608 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: with me around consent, around safe sex, around what we 609 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: all love and desire. And I think these conversations are 610 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: not easy. So because of the culture that we live in, 611 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: would you ever do tantra with Nick. Oh god, I 612 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I honestly don't know. Yeah, it would be 613 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: interesting because maybe, like you could because it's because, like 614 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: you said, it's not really just about sex. Like there, 615 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: I felt connected doing that and there was no intercourse happening. 616 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I've probably done what she did on the show, probably, 617 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean it would not be comfortable. Which one how 618 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: she put them on the table, like based on there, 619 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: how do we how do we get Catherine on the show? 620 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: No drawing a time, There's no way I'm doing that 621 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: with cameras, you know. I think that's an interesting thing too, 622 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: of these couples who came on the show, We're so Brave, 623 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to talks about it in the show. She says, 624 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, to be vulnerable and camera's one thing, but 625 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: to be sexually vulnerable is a whole other thing. And 626 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: and so putting them putting themselves out there in that 627 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: way so that other people could learn and see and 628 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: see what's possible, it was really powerful. So that's interesting 629 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: because when my therapist, we didn't talk about it a 630 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: long time because we're talking earlier that that was my homework, 631 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: and she was like, well, what was your biggest takeaway 632 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: and that was my biggest takeaway from it, which which 633 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: was just their bravery and like I would love to 634 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: be that open and brave. I mean yeah, I mean 635 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: of course. It's like, you know, I'm envious of these people, 636 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, the old couple and like you know, it's 637 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: just you know, the woman who's uncomfortable with her body, 638 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: you know, just to be able to get in front 639 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: of a camera and do that, I'm envious of that. 640 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: And that was kind of my biggest take a way 641 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: was how brave these people were for sure. Yeah, and 642 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: so that that would be a place for you is 643 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: the bravery. It's like, oh, I'd love to have that bravery, 644 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: that courage since that was the piece of the show 645 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: that touched you. Is just like what's in the way 646 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: of that courage to be with that part and work 647 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: with that part of Well? Why why am I scared 648 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: of that? Or you know, I really value an honor 649 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: to that and that's the way I would like to 650 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: be more of. So what's the charge, what's the thing 651 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: that's blocking that? And then we would process that, you know, 652 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: if we were working together and you are my client, 653 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: that would be the first place we'd start, We wouldn't 654 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: even get on the table. It would just be let's 655 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: work with this part that feels scared, and how can 656 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: we help that part feel safe, to explore to the 657 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: edges and integrate these parts of us that block us 658 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: or feel unsafe because they really just want you to 659 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: be They want you to be safe the part that 660 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: that's there, and oftentimes once they feel safe, then the 661 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: courage can come. Mm hmm. What is like you know 662 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: when you because obviously you have a lot of passion 663 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: behind it, you're very passionate about it. What what are you? Um? Is? It? 664 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: Is it seeing someone get to that place where they're comfortable? Like? What? What? Um? 665 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: What's kind of like your biggest um that makes you 666 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 1: proud of the work that you do or that makes 667 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: it that fulfills you and that there's a moment that 668 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: happens often in the work where people remember who they 669 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: are And it's that moment that is the most rewarding 670 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: moment for me, is when they are here and they're 671 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: them and they fall in love with themselves in that 672 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: moment when they realize who they are without the conditioning, 673 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: without all the programming, without their stories, or without the pain, 674 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: what they experienced in the past, and they let go 675 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: of all that and they're just them here now in 676 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: the moment, and there's a look on the face and 677 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: there's uh, they look at me and whoa. When the 678 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: moment happens, that's it. Yeah, I mean, because I can imagine, 679 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, I mean as much as we like laughed, 680 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, because it is it's it's an uncomfortable goofy 681 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: like it doesn't feel it's it's sometimes talking about sex 682 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: can feel like, oh my god, this is super uncomfortable. 683 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: But that's gotta Even when I was doing the tangent, 684 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: I was like I was so uncomfortable, but like, you know, 685 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: yeah there. I'm sure there comes a place in a 686 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: time when that does happen where you're just like so 687 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: comfortable with yourself that like this is just who you are, 688 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: Like it's not it's not uncomfortable anymore. So that must 689 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: be so cool. This is me. Yeah, I am where 690 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: um where can people? Um? Do you just like take 691 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: clients when like can people just reach out to you? 692 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: Do you have a website? I have a waiting list 693 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: for a really long time. She's like we've trained about 694 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: quite a few erotic blueprint coaches and they are also 695 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: people who do what you see in the so called 696 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: sexological body workers. So you can reach out and find 697 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: you can find those on our website and then UM 698 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: also the website is website is the Blueprint Breakthrough dot Com. 699 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: That's to take the quiz the Blueprint Breakthrough dot Com 700 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: and then to do the just go to my website. 701 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: My website is Jaya dot Love l o V E 702 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: Gaia dot Love llo V. Yeah, I love it well, Jia, 703 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I appreciate you coming on and 704 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: and chat with us. I mean, what a very full 705 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: circle moment, Like I'm theist what happened? Because it's it 706 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: was you know, she told me about this homework assignment. 707 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: She's like, you will never guess what our therapist made 708 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: me do UM for a homework assignment. So the fact 709 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: that you know, it's crazy. But it was very nice 710 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: to meet you and talk with you. Very nice to 711 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: meet you. I want to hear how it goes. I'm 712 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: so curious how your journey is going to unfold from here. 713 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,959 Speaker 1: Keep you updated. Okay, all right, thanks to I appreciate you. 714 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: UM scale of one to ten, How much do you 715 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: hate me one to ten. I mean, I don't hate you. 716 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: I don't hate you. I feel like that was like 717 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: a really full I could not believe it. She looks familiar, 718 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, it's the show 719 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: that we just talked about. It's crazy. I mean, it's 720 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: all I get it, you know, I get it, and 721 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: I think it's good for me to expand my However, 722 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: watching the show, I did realize I'm not alone. A 723 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: lot of people are uncomfortable with it. Yeah. That was 724 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: also good too, because sometimes I feel like I'm the 725 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: only one. Well, I mean, you have me is your 726 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: best friend who's like, well that might be what like? 727 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: But I think it's fair. I mean, I definitely think 728 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are the way that 729 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: I am. So sure it gets you know. Also good 730 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: to hear that perspective. Yeah, for sure, go take the quiz. Though, 731 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: I will take the quiz, and you should watch the 732 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: show we Is. I would love to watch the show. 733 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: You would love it? Um, Yeah, I know I would 734 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: love to. But I gotta go get ready for a date. 735 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: So make him take the quiz. Yeah, I know, I'll 736 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: make I'll be like, Hi, take take this quiz let 737 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: me know. Um, all right, well that was fun and 738 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: um yeah, see you guys next week.