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Speaker 1: Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 1: it's a wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys here from

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Speaker 1: Glad you're with us here over the next forty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot coming at you when where it

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Speaker 1: comes to the Cardinals and the Cowboys Monday Night Football Cup.

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Speaker 1: In just a little bit, we're gonna preview Cardinals offense. Well,

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Speaker 1: they've got some weapons coming to town this week against

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Speaker 1: this week, we'll still figure out a lot today where

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Speaker 1: available coming up on Monday Night. But we are Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Heck My Harrison, Rock Phillips, Isaiah stand back, I'm Kyle's

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Speaker 1: glad you're with us and guys. I wanted to start

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Speaker 1: the show with a little bit of draft news. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft still about eight months away, or I

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Speaker 1: guess it's it's still a good amount of time away.

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Speaker 1: But I think there's an emerging prospect of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Because I got a text message esway from a close

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Speaker 1: insider whenever it comes to Dallas Cowboys draft coverage, and

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Speaker 1: it was a football game footage in a statline that

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Speaker 1: I saw from a local game. Heck, my Harrison's son,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you have got twenty twenty eight NFL

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Speaker 1: guy just went off yesterday. He told me that stout

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Speaker 1: linking man, Chris Beab is too much, man, And I'm

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Speaker 1: echoing too, Chris, thank you. He hates to what I

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Speaker 1: do like that. But my little man had a game yesterday, man,

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Speaker 1: he had a he had a he had a game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I'm that parent, I'm that parent. Do you know he's

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Speaker 1: not on that deer antler is he He's not on

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Speaker 1: that ray lewis Man, but one of the bringing that

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Speaker 1: up had the kick returns sent in our Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: group message and little Hack as we call him, was just, uh,

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Speaker 1: start things off. But let's put into let's get into

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Speaker 1: some Cowboys news and Rob, we talked about the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: signing yesterday, and uh, there's a couple of injury got

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Speaker 1: it comes to who is available coming off of IR

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Speaker 1: is eligible to come off of IR at the moment?

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Speaker 1: Is Cheeto Owoozia one of those games as well? Yes

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Speaker 1: he is. I believe he's eligible. Right it's a three

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Speaker 1: Irving and I didn't say, Flaming, I said Irving, I

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Speaker 1: got right. Yeah, Am Irving and Layton Vanderesh are in

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Speaker 1: But Isaiah, whenever we talk about adding a Layton vander

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about d Hop, but

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Speaker 1: place today, That's all right, Vanderesh, Yeah, you're right. I

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Speaker 1: Isaiah's right, you gotta be ready for him one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: reinjure that collarbone. They're not gonna put him out there

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Speaker 1: So whenever you spy like that, you're you're playing man

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Speaker 1: and those design draws that he goes on. But it's

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Speaker 1: defense needs to stop immediately, and that's Kenyan Drake. The

429
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Speaker 1: running game has been our Achilles Hill and just our

430
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Speaker 1: inability to just get that stop. We did a little

431
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Speaker 1: bit of We did a better job last week in

432
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: the second half of slowing down Freeman, but Kenyan Drake

433
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: is one of those running backs that he just gets

434
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: better as the game goes along. Now, as far as

435
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: their receivers are concerned, for me, Isabella, guys like Kurt,

436
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: those possession receivers, they just keep the chains moving and

437
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: the Cowboys from historically, and I don't need to just

438
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: keep recapping the fact that we've been bad on defense

439
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: and our inability to communicate and see guys running down

440
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: the field Scott Free. I think this game gives me

441
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: a lot more worry because of just recognizing their formation.

442
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: So you know, it's gonna be a lot of assignment

443
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: and making sure that you're playing in your area. But

444
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: this is gonna be another big test for the Dallas

445
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. Yeah, you guys are right. I mean, I

446
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: don't know how many times Mike McCarthy and Mike Nolan

447
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: have talked about like pre snap alignment and making sure

448
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 1: before the snap we got everything, we're all squared away.

449
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: And there's been games where they've been good at it,

450
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: and there's been games where they've been really not good

451
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: at it. So it's absolutely that's huge. This week you

452
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: mentioned Kenyan Drake Heck and Chase Edmonds is a guy

453
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: they kind of sprinkle into, and not only in the

454
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: running game, but kind of Tony Pollard like in terms

455
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: of skills in the passing game too. You might see

456
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: him together in the backfield, you might see one of

457
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: them split out. Uh, you guys, I said, You're right,

458
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: they're They're really creative, and uh, you know, I'm curious

459
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: to see from a pass rush standpoint what they do

460
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: because you know, Bucky Brooks wrote about this on the

461
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: website yesterday. He thinks they need a blitz more and

462
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: they did blitz more in the second half against Daniel

463
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: Jones and had success. But can you do that in

464
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: this game against these wide receivers, you think so, Yeah,

465
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: I think you have to. I think you I think

466
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: I defense because of how bad they've been, they're sitting

467
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: ducks if they try and play it any other way.

468
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan has got to dial up some pressure. And

469
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: you saw what we were able to do with Tank

470
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: and getting that strip sack Um and Anthony Brown is

471
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: right there as well. We have to do it. If

472
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: we sit back our defense, our secondary isn't good enough

473
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: to just sit back in those zones and cover of guys.

474
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: We have to dial up some pressure. And it's to

475
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: the point like if we start saying, okay, our defensive

476
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: front has to get pressure, well, we hadn't seen that, man,

477
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: And so it's hard to continue to ask for something

478
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: that you're not getting otherwise. Man, it's gonna have to

479
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: be on those secondary blisses. So I hear you, guys,

480
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: I hear you, um. And I keep thinking about this

481
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: from the perspective of what I was in college, because

482
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: I was I was pretty dog on mobile and I

483
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: had an arm as well. And can we talk about

484
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: thinking about the mindset that I had. That's the third

485
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: time that Isaiah has called himself mobile in college, and

486
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Speaker 1: I just want to point that out that well, I

487
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Speaker 1: mean his facts. You know, I'm kind of kind of.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm just alluding to the mindset. Right when you're going

489
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: to a game like this, you want to think you

490
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: teams that teams that want to blitch you. I'm just

491
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: telling you man kind of Murray's mindset. Teams that blitch you.

492
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Speaker 1: Guess they might get lucky a couple of times, but

493
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: majority of the time, I'm gonna make you pay. Right,

494
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to make you pay. And it's one thing

495
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: if I don't have receivers that can beat man coverage,

496
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: but guess what they do. Right, So if you decide

497
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: to blitz and I make that guy miss, now guess what.

498
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: Now you're vulnerable. Right now, you're vulnerable. And either I'm

499
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: gonna take off and I'm gonna run for sixteen and

500
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: twenty yards like Kyler Murray did. We showed it on

501
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: the film room, or or I'm gonna throw this thing

502
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: up and I got a man a man coverage with

503
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald or freaking d hop are you kidding me?

504
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: We don't have guys if you guard either one of

505
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: those guys man to man, let's be so. I mean,

506
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: so you can't you can't, though, chimp, you know you

507
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: can't just sit back. No, no, no, it wait on

508
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: it to come to you. And I'm not what I'm

509
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: talking about it from a situational awareness stand I'm saying

510
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Speaker 1: thirty sixteen right, third and sixteen. Yeah, it's all right.

511
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm not mix it, mix it in in there. Yeah. No,

512
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying to sit back and never blitz. But

513
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, don't let that be. Don't be the Seahawks

514
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: versus you know, versus the Cowboys when they blitz, you know,

515
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams eight times on the first drive, like, don't

516
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: be that because we can't. We can't, we can't guard it,

517
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: we can't we can't play defense like that. Um. But

518
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: just know that you want to be very careful about

519
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: how you blitz and where you blitz from. If you're

520
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: going to blitz, blitz internally, right, blitz up the middle,

521
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: bring bring bring us secondary guys one of our dvs

522
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: up the middle, bring you know, across dog these things

523
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: with our middle linebackers. Do it that way. Don't come

524
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: from the outside because you're gonna pay. And another thing,

525
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: this is going to be the most challenging game as

526
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: we talk about l V not being president and what

527
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: he brings to his team. Jalen Smith is going to

528
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: be challenged more than he's ever been challenged mentally in

529
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: this game, being for the same reasons that we just

530
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: talked about. He's responsible for the alignment of our defense,

531
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't get these guys aligned properly, oh

532
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: my gosh, there's gonna be some big players going up

533
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: going to other direction. Now whenever he comes to what

534
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: you're kind of just talking about it and you're you're, you're, you're,

535
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: you're being situational with your blitzes, Isaiah, the question popped

536
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: in my head, and I think I know your answer

537
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: to this, But which one would you rather forced to

538
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: beat you? Would you rather force Kyler Murray to beat

539
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 1: you with his legs or Kyler Murray to beat you

540
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: with his arm and finding his weapons like a DeAndre Hopkins,

541
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: I'll live and die by his arm. I'll live and

542
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: die by his arm. And and that was the most

543
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: challenging thing, you know, I'd rather, I'd rather have God,

544
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: I'd rather try to instill some former confidence in my

545
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: d line and say we need you guys this game,

546
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: like we are not going to be successful. Unlet you

547
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: guys go that's the challenge I'm putting on our defensive line. Hey,

548
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: you know d Law, Griff, you know all you guys.

549
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: I need you guys to ball out. If you guys

550
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: don't ball out, we're not going to be successful. I

551
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: need to see what you guys have. And we're gonna

552
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: drop seven. We're gonna drop eight, and we say that's this,

553
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: that's where we're gonna do because we have to be

554
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: able to stop these guys. Now, if he decides to

555
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: take off running, guess what, we have somebody in there

556
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: to watch him, and we're gonna keep containment right, but

557
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna force him to be an accurate passenger because,

558
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: like you said, Kyle, you might have sixty seventy players

559
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: on offense from the cardinal standpoint, but he's gonna give

560
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: you those two to three times where you can pick

561
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: him off right, and you just have to continue to

562
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: be predictive on offense. But you can wait him out

563
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: until he decides that he gets impatient if he doesn't

564
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: have anybody to throw the ball too, and if he

565
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: can't get and he can't get out the pocket, guess what,

566
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: there's a little thing called frustration that kind of tests

567
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: starts settling in right, and when you have, when you

568
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: get little bit frustrated as a quarterback, you start taking risks.

569
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: You start saying, dang it, these guys aren't open. So

570
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna force the ball in here. I got

571
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: a cannon. I could get the ball in there. You

572
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: can't sometimes, or I guess what, I'm gonna trying to

573
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: throw it over the head. I got some dudes out

574
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: there that can go up and make plays. My guys

575
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: are better than their guys. Okay, let's see right, And

576
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: then that's when you start having these mistakes happening, and

577
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: that's where you take advantage. Go ahead, I'm sorry, Ron,

578
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Now he's got six picks on the year,

579
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: and he will chuck it up, you know, if if

580
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: he's in a in a forced outside the pocket. He's

581
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: got faith in his receivers and he's got faith in

582
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: his arm, and he will throw it up there. So

583
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: we'll see. I was I like the way the Panthers

584
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: played him. They they played a lot of you know,

585
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: too deep and then said okay, well we'll just take

586
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: away the short stuff, or we'll give you the stuff.

587
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna take away the deep ball and he had

588
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three yards on like thirty one attempts. Now,

589
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: part of that is they had a fourteen nothing lead

590
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: to play with early. So it kind of goes back

591
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: again to can the Cowboys not turn over the ball,

592
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: get a lead and allow your pass rush to tee

593
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: off where they're not having to guess what type of

594
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: balanced attack the Cardinals might might face. So it's part

595
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: of the offense too to keep put the defense in

596
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: the right situations to tee off. But but I just

597
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: gotta say, this guy's like Isaiah, you bring up a

598
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: valid point, but all of the things that you're appointing

599
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: to we haven't done. So if Colin Murray is capable

600
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: of turning the ball over, we're lasting the NFL and

601
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: turnover differential. That's just not what we're doing. As far

602
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: as uh setting the edge, I think we have tape

603
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: on us not being able to set the edge. So

604
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: this this is the week, obviously to get all of

605
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: those things together. If if Colin Murray is going to

606
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: sit back and we're going to force feed DeAndre Hopkins,

607
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: then let's do it the same way like you saw

608
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers with two safeties high, giving up short,

609
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: not allowing anything deep. But you know, Kylo will force

610
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: feed the ball into DeAndre Hopkins and first ballot Hall

611
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: of Famer Larry Fitzgerald. I'm not saying that he's a

612
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: decoy at this point in his career. It's not that

613
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: he's not the guy that I'm as worried about as

614
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: I am with Kirk and some of the other guys,

615
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: and also with Redman the running back, Edmund the running

616
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: back out of the backfield, and so there's so much

617
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: there that we know this is the way to beat

618
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: this team. This is how you doll up pressure, get

619
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: in those passing lanes, get in a shorter guy's face

620
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: to make him throw some of those errand throws. But

621
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen that all years. So I agree with

622
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: you and the fact that we haven't seen it. But

623
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: guess what, my expectation doesn't change. Yeah, you're still a

624
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: professional athlete. You're still you're still getting paid money. Huh

625
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: do you think they'll running reverse on us this week?

626
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: Dang it, why did you have to do that? Listen,

627
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: it's a bell I hear you, and listen, Guys in

628
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: position to make plays there's just better athletes running around them.

629
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: But this defensive line, like I said, they have to

630
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: be called out. Nolan and Dogan McCarthy have to come

631
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: out and say, you boys better start playing or guess what.

632
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: This is the rotation. This is the first D line,

633
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: this is the second D line, this is the third

634
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: D line. Whoever's the most effective. I'm rotating you guys

635
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: out every series. If you guys don't ball out on

636
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: the first on the first series, guess what these young

637
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: bucks are coming in here. Oh and by the way,

638
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: we have a dude coming off coming off a suspension

639
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: here in another week, in the name of Randy Gregor,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be hungry for some playing time as well.

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Speaker 1: So d Law, don't show up if you want to.

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Speaker 1: making some plays. And Kyle's ready for fifty six to

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Speaker 1: and I account I'm great. I do want to I

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Speaker 1: saying we haven't seen that yet. We haven't seen the blueprint.

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Speaker 1: with us here on the Wednesday, and we've been really

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Speaker 1: talking about how to contain Kyler Murray. And that's the

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Speaker 1: question that I think thirty one NFL defenses are having

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Speaker 1: the same conundrum about. Is how to slow down Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray in this offense led by the former Oklahoma star

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Speaker 1: star rob But I don't know if you feel about

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. It's just a little bit of time. But

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Speaker 1: continue to put pressure on the defensive line to perform,

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Speaker 1: and they haven't performed, just like Heckma alluded to a

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Speaker 1: moment ago. But Heckma, whenever it comes to the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: is it the most important that you have a guy

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Speaker 1: like DeMarcus Lentz and Alden Smith that have the best

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Speaker 1: games of the year against the guy like Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Of course, And I think it goes back to what

742
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Isaiah saying earlier is that you have to have a

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Speaker 1: bunch of guys in coverage to off those passing you know,

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Speaker 1: get in the way getting those passing lanes, uh Colin Murray.

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Speaker 1: So it's important that we have a defensive line that's

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Speaker 1: being up the field and also getting pressure also, you

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00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: know internally, Terry Pole, Look, we got to have a

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Speaker 1: coming out party for this guy at some point where

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Speaker 1: we see that he can actually stop some guys that

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Speaker 1: max it. Hopefully it made the plays, uh do something,

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be on our four. Our guys have

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Speaker 1: to get some pressure on this on this quarterback without

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Speaker 1: relegating one of our ebings to be obviously being a

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Speaker 1: sire or something like that. You would like to see

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Speaker 1: it because when you look at the games that they lost,

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Speaker 1: we have to put into context also that the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are two and two and the teams that they three

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Speaker 1: and two, the teams that they've beaten, I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: are are a bunch of your giants, but they were

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Speaker 1: not or upper echelon teams pretty bad too, well, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's that's what I mean, pretty bad.

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Speaker 1: So let's just talk about the fact that these guys,

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Speaker 1: the losses that they had versus Carolina and also short,

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00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: they did a really good job getting pressure on him

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Speaker 1: with just the interior guys. So that's the print to

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Speaker 1: getting it done for our defense ISAC absolutely and go ahead?

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00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: ISAC no? I mean, I mean, heck, hit on it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think d Law and you know, and all

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Speaker 1: of our defensive ends, I don't think that they're really

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Speaker 1: key to this game. It's really internal when you're when

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Speaker 1: you're facing a mobile quarterback, you you need because this

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Speaker 1: is what happens if you're If you're a mobile quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you have ability to get out the pocket and run

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Speaker 1: and throw. If a defensive end running up the field,

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Speaker 1: that does nothing for me. All I'm gonna do is

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Speaker 1: step up and step out right, um and I'm gone.

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Speaker 1: I mean that guy that I'm by you. Um. Where

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Speaker 1: you face issues if you're defensive ends, bull rush, If

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Speaker 1: your defensives bullrush and they push those tas back down

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Speaker 1: on top of you. Now you're squeezing the pocket. And

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00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: now you're squeezing. Now you're restricting my area. But when

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Speaker 1: guys just blow up the field, you're just out of

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00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: my view. I'll just slide up the pocket and I

784
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: slide out and I take off running. When you have

785
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: internal pressure from your inside, guys, this is where our

786
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: challenges right. We need gripping to come in there and

787
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Speaker 1: present pressure on the inside. We need po to be

788
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Speaker 1: po be the old po not the new po. We

789
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Speaker 1: need the old po okay um, and we need the

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Speaker 1: pressure up the middle. Even if he just held the fort,

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Speaker 1: come on, man, hold the fort. That pressure and the

792
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: inside is causes issues. So if you have a bull pressure,

793
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: or if you guys are defensive ends, squeeze the edges

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Speaker 1: and you have some form of inside pressure at all.

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Speaker 1: Now I guess what. Now I'm restricted. No, I can't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere. I don't have anywhere to go. Now I

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Speaker 1: have to do that big you know, Wilson spin out,

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Speaker 1: big bow out. I lose seven yards just to get

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Speaker 1: my eyes down the field. Right, But if you oh

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Speaker 1: buy me, Now I get to keep my step and

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Speaker 1: step up one steps out And now I guess what.

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Speaker 1: I'm five yards behind A nine trimmage is said at twelve. Yeah,

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00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: that's that whole keep them in the pocket, keep them

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Speaker 1: in the well thing that Rod Marriley kept talking about

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00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: with Russell William It's kind of the same concept exactly

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00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, Isaiah, because that middle rush

807
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: is so important to me. It can quarterback more than

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00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: than huge pressure because of because you can't step up,

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00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: you're not comfortable, and these design draws that they run.

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Speaker 1: He's signing increases between the tackles. They've got to be discipline.

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Speaker 1: They've got to be able to get to push and

812
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: not have their tackles washed out of the play like

813
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Speaker 1: we've seen in the running game, particularly also in the

814
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Speaker 1: pass rush. They've they've got to be able to be

815
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Speaker 1: more productive inside. That's that we kept harping on it

816
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: yesterday for good reason. I mean, you've lost now, you've

817
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: lost two defensive tackles for the season, and they've got

818
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: to be able to adjust with the rotation they have.

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00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: And those internal guys also before he gets going, you

820
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: can't can't avoid the a gaps, internal guys. You can't

821
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: take those internal guys and make them rush outside into

822
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: the bee gaps and the sea gaps and try to

823
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: run those. You can't run a te stone, right. You

824
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: have to keep those guys in the gaps because if

825
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: those those gap void is just like what Colin I

826
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Speaker 1: shoot on the film room yesterday. As soon as I

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Speaker 1: see that that gap void right in front of me

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Speaker 1: and my eyes as I'm dropping back, I'm gone gone,

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Speaker 1: I mean, And then with four three speed you get

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Speaker 1: ten yards in no time, right, and then move the

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Speaker 1: chains slide, get up, let's go back in the huddle,

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Speaker 1: Let's move his chains. Yeah, that's his specialty, that's what

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00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: he loves to do. And once he sees that that

834
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Speaker 1: red seas, he's out of there. And you guys specifically

835
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: make a great point about the interior rush, but also

836
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Speaker 1: let's the linebackers man Joe Thomas and Jalen Smith. Jaylen

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00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: Smith has to have a repeat of the last game

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Speaker 1: because Kenyan, Drake Edmonds, these guys are going to be

839
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: in those screen situations. Teams are going to continue to

840
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: attack us in things that we haven't yet stopped, and

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00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: so we're gonna see these things repeating themselves over and

842
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: over and over again. And they have the running backs

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00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: that are capable to do that. So Joe Thomas and

844
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith also have to show up. And I know

845
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: in the past we've been seeing anytime there's been a motion,

846
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: you'll see Jalen Smith kind of interchange with Joe Thomas,

847
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: and I believe that's just a strong side weak side

848
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: kind of a deal. But against the Giants, you saw

849
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: them go away from that, okay and just kind of

850
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: slide over where Jalen was the mike and Joe was

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Speaker 1: do that and don't give Kyla Murray the red seat.

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Speaker 1: These running backs are they provide different Yeah, it did.

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Speaker 1: And I saying these running backs to your point, these

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Speaker 1: You got you know, you got a six one guy,

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Speaker 1: You got Edmonds, um, and then you gotta who is

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Speaker 1: it um? I can't even think right, a drake. And

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Speaker 1: you got one physical back, you got one little little

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Speaker 1: little scat back and they're both productive. So you can't

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Speaker 1: you can't forget about those guys either. And you know

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Speaker 1: they're gonna test us. You know they're gonna test that

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Speaker 1: part of the game. And if they get that part

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Speaker 1: of the game going good and its gracious, this is

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, you know it's gonna be a it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a challenge. The by the way, the over under

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Speaker 1: we're not betting men here, but the over under is

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Speaker 1: I would probably say the wow, probably say the over

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly there, because both these teams are gonna put

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Speaker 1: sign of the football tomorrow when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys having to score on Patrick Peterson, Buddha Baker and

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Speaker 1: this Cardinals defense. No Chandler Jones once again, that was

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Speaker 1: the breaking news today. He's out for the season with

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Speaker 1: a bicep injury, so he is not in the equation

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Speaker 1: for that Cardinals defense tomorrow. But we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: how Andy Dalton, Zeke Elliott in this entire offense for

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys can defeating the Cardinals on the offensive

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Speaker 1: side of the football when we come back tomorrow. But

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it today. For Heckor Harrison, for Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: for Isaiah Stanback, I'm Kyle Yomen special thanks to Chris

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Speaker 1: Beam in the back. Thanks for listening to Talking Cowboys.

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