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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome into a Wednesday edition of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access from the under Texans Radio Studio. I have

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Speaker 1: John and that is Mark. Welcome in everybody, Mark. How

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Speaker 1: you doing? Hello, I'm doing great, Johnny. Of course, it's summertime.

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Speaker 1: The living is well, not easy for everybody, and not

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Speaker 1: really that easy for us, but we love what we

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Speaker 1: do and we're here doing shows and we've got TV

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Speaker 1: going on on Saturday NIGHTSBC thirteen Texans three sixty. Be

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Speaker 1: sure to tune in or catched it on YouTube afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Commercial Free? Was that a good enough promo for? That?

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Speaker 1: Was really good? It is the summer, but you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: know it driving around this place. What do you mean,

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Speaker 1: Oh the building? Oh no, I'm talking about city of Houston. Oh,

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Speaker 1: with traffic, it's still the same. I don't I haven't

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Speaker 1: felt any difference. I feel like the man. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: ride in is lighter because the school zones. Plus you know,

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Speaker 1: I live in the suburbs of Sugarland, Texas, the greatest

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Speaker 1: city in America, and just getting out of my neighborhood

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Speaker 1: that's been school's on. Yeah, yeah, you know, I've drive

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Speaker 1: by four different school and it's a mass like you

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Speaker 1: have to leave at the right time, but it's only

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Speaker 1: about a forty five minute window where it's horrendous before

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Speaker 1: or after you're pretty much okay. But I noticed that

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Speaker 1: the riding is a little lighter. But to your point,

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Speaker 1: I guess I could see that there's still a lot

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Speaker 1: of traffic out there. It's not like the city empties out.

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Speaker 1: Where is everybody gonna go. It's a I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you want to call it a vacation haven, but

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Speaker 1: you've live in a place that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: would like. I mean, some people have got to go

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Speaker 1: out from vacation. Well, not everybody can go to Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I notice about Houston. Okay, So where do

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Speaker 1: people in Houston go vacation? All Right, it depends on

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Speaker 1: you know, certain demographics and come that kind of the

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Speaker 1: most part. Now, a lot of people who can afford

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Speaker 1: it go to Colorado. That's what I notice here when

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Speaker 1: I lived in South Florida, especially on the east coast

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Speaker 1: It's the west coast, not true South Florida. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: the Miami Fort Lauderdale, Boca area. People there vacation in

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Speaker 1: When we're at the Greenbrier. Thought, hey, West Virginia, if

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Speaker 1: you have the right spot, like Louisburg, it's as good

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Speaker 1: It's probably a lot less expensive than a lot of places.

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Speaker 1: If you're staying at the Greenbrier. It's not inexpensive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's very, very nice. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: from Houston also go thirty A. They go Destin and

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Speaker 1: thirty A. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. The Rosemary beaches

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Speaker 1: of the world. Somebody, what's the one in Alabama, Orange Beach. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a stay. I stayed down for the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I stayed on in Dauphin Island. Now that's a little

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Speaker 1: bit further, but it's it's like forty five minutes to

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Speaker 1: it's not a winter it's not a um, it's not

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Speaker 1: a it's not a homestead for a lot of people

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Speaker 1: throughout the year. It's not barren, but it's not completely

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Speaker 1: packed warm. It's nice. It's really it's really nice. Last

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Speaker 1: It was like thirty mile hour winds coming off the

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Speaker 1: But yeah, deston thirty. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: We used to always go, Hey, Galveston terrific. I really think,

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Speaker 1: the water is a nice turquoise color. Yes, they said,

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Speaker 1: The wind just I like that, you know, beach has

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Speaker 1: as a young man named Brevin Jordan and Drew Dorty

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Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan. Las Vegas heat or Houston heat? Which one

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Speaker 1: a little different. I'm still get us. So I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm from here. I've been here a while. Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: have enough food and water that you don't have to

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Speaker 1: worry about that. What are two things that you're bringing

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Speaker 1: I'll probably bring a book. I'll probably bring the Daily Stoic,

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Speaker 1: just to keep my mind like in a positive place

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Speaker 1: and make sure I don't go crazy. And I'll probably

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Speaker 1: bring my wiener dog, Diva back home. She's a beautiful dog.

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Speaker 1: She keeps great comany. He's like a human in the

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Speaker 1: dog's body. So I'll probably being hurd too. I knew

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Speaker 1: I liked you, Brevin Jordan. My life and I my

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Speaker 1: family have two weener dogs. One of them, one of

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Speaker 1: them might have the worst breath of all times. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just awful, like a dumpster in August with four dead

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Speaker 1: a miniature Dawson, so she I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's the that's the whole description. Another dog, miniature Dawson.

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Speaker 1: She's she's a small little winter dog. She's lovely and

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Speaker 1: brat brown brown. Okay, she's a brat though she doesn't

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Speaker 1: brat she is. That's why we call her Diva. She

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Speaker 1: likes to pee and poop inside when it rains. Worst

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Speaker 1: snows or she's a pure diva diva. How long did

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Speaker 1: it take you to come up with a name? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think it took us about a week. When we

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Speaker 1: outside when it was raining or snowing or anything snowing

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Speaker 1: vols vega, excuse me. But whether it was raining or

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Speaker 1: was like, this dog is really boogie, Like, she's a

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Speaker 1: or like a falcon, something that can fly. None in

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Speaker 1: little they got ego vision. Yeah, give me an illegal

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Speaker 1: or falcon Do you think you'd ever want to be

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Speaker 1: actually kind of scared of heights. Like I live in

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not really for me. Maybe put a

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Speaker 1: it's not really my thing. It's probably for the better.

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Speaker 1: It's probably smarter. Hey, back to the Daily Stoic. How

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Speaker 1: many times have you read this book? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: it's just one of those books that I have opened

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Speaker 1: me in a positive mindset. Do you read other stuff?

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Speaker 1: I do. I'm reading a book. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I can say the language, but on your mind, it's

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Speaker 1: a great book. James Lewis, I think, is the author

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Speaker 1: keep your mind straight to just one of those things

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Speaker 1: that about avoiding all negative, negative thoughts before it even happens.

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Speaker 1: I like that. That's good stuff. Okay, what about growing up?

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Speaker 1: in Houston, I don't have no friends, shout. I don't

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Speaker 1: can be good friends. But Houston Reverend Jordan needs a friend. Well,

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Speaker 1: a friend, though, I do need a friend because all

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Speaker 1: my rookie team and they don't really like me. They

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Speaker 1: and stuff. I'd be out here about myself. My mom

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Speaker 1: visit them. Well, I don't think they don't like you.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a matter of other things. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: what makes up a good friend? Three good traits? Loyalty,

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Speaker 1: I would say, a commitment, loyalty, commitment kind of go

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Speaker 1: of that just in one and one human It's great, man.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's really the three traits that make

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Speaker 1: a good friend. Would you rather be the mightiest squirrel

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Speaker 1: probably be the weakest what is it, the weakest squirrel,

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Speaker 1: probably do the mightiest squirrel tightest. Howard said the same thing.

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Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, I believe in being mighty, So that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna go with it. Okay, what's the latest

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Speaker 1: I was playing a rock with you, Michael Jackson this

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Speaker 1: camera because I might get signed like Houston Records, Atlanta Records.

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Speaker 1: Don't let me start singing. It's bad news for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the country if I start singing. All right, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. We talked about Brevit Jordan a lot uh

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Speaker 1: this this offseason. He's a guy I think all of

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Speaker 1: so the most stable, the most stable, right, but new

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Speaker 1: coaches would always be one of these is a little shocking.

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Speaker 1: Okay when you hear it, all right, let me hear it.

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Speaker 1: The two Shawn McVay and McDermott, Andy Reid. Who do

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Speaker 1: you think the fourth one is the most stable? Think Patriots? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course No. Oh McDaniels. Josh McDaniels. Well, he's a

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Speaker 1: new coach, I know, but all the new coaches are

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Speaker 1: are uh so Babel, Dennis Allen person. Yeah, I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: Lovey has the same odds as Bill belichickfty one. But

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Josh McDaniel, Sean McDermott, Sean McVay all one

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Speaker 1: hue hundred to one. Andy Reid is not going anywhere

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Speaker 1: unless he wants to. And it's the same thing for well,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know McVay and Reid for sure where

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Speaker 1: their head coach driven. That would have to come from ownership,

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Speaker 1: and I don't never see that happening. McDermott. He and

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Speaker 1: Brandon Beany got something else. That's definitely there's no chance, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: they could go six and whatever and you're gonna give

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Speaker 1: him another shot. You build something there. McDaniels, No, I

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Speaker 1: know Dave's Eagler went with him from New England. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that thing is. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how that thing is structured. It's McDaniels. He has told

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Speaker 1: control of everything. So McDaniels is one of the four

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Speaker 1: least odds to be the first coach fired. I mean

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Speaker 1: that wow. I mean, I think Josh is a tremendous coach,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad his brother Ben is here. I think

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Speaker 1: Ben's a tremendous coach. But I'm thinking there's no way

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Speaker 1: in hades that Bill Belichick shouldn't be amongst that group,

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Speaker 1: no matter what Belichick exactly. You're right away, You're right,

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Speaker 1: Belich's got to be right there because Belichick's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: He could go six and eleven. You notice, with the

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Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule, I don't spit out the numbers like

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Speaker 1: the other number in the record as quickly as I

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Speaker 1: used to. Right, I've gotten used to nine and eight,

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Speaker 1: eight and nine, ten and seven, seven to ten, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then you're like five and twelve, you know, because

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Speaker 1: you got so used to say five and eleven, it

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Speaker 1: was just easy to add everything up. And I happened

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Speaker 1: to see you don't get me started on ties. Yeah, now,

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel I saw this. I just want to get

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Speaker 1: your reaction to this one. Mike Rabel went to Ohio

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Speaker 1: State University, right, right, But the people of that university

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Speaker 1: like to say, the Ohio State Universe. The is now

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Speaker 1: trademark in the United States by Ohio State University. No,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna follow It's gonna be followed by Ohio State Universe.

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Speaker 1: The Ohio State University has successfully received a trademark on

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Speaker 1: the word the but only when followed by Ohio State University.

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Speaker 1: Yes it is. Yes, the US Patton Trademark Gov has

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Speaker 1: approved Ohio State's application Tuesday. They filed it in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Issuing a registration certificate allows Ohio State to control you

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Speaker 1: control the use of the unclothing, namely T shirts, baseball caps,

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Speaker 1: and hats, all the foregoing being promoted, distributed, and sold

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Speaker 1: through channels customary to the field of sports and collegiate athletics.

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Speaker 1: The damn university has the word V Like what did

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Speaker 1: I tell you? All right? So this reminds me, I

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Speaker 1: know one has to be followed by that because somebody,

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Speaker 1: a big Hurricane fan, was a trademark lawyer, and he said,

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Speaker 1: you want to try to trademark rock and roll. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to, but it's rock and roll. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it. He said, Well, I

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Speaker 1: could try to trademark rock and roll touchdown Hurricanes. I'm like, okay, great,

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Speaker 1: that'd be cool, But really, what is it gonna do

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Speaker 1: for me? Right? Somebody else says it? I here, give

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Speaker 1: me my five dollars. Stop it. I need five dollars

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Speaker 1: from you because you said that. You know it doesn't

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Speaker 1: so what so you didn't do it? No, I didn't

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Speaker 1: do it. I didn't do it. Why do that? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Plus, now I come here, I I gotta

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Speaker 1: change the whole do over. It just sounds ridiculous. They

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Speaker 1: file the trademark for the word d. That's just odd.

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Speaker 1: What's not odd is in the Lab your dohorty stops

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Speaker 1: by next right here at Texans All Access. Ess ess

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Speaker 1: ess so up, everybody, Welcome back this Wednesday the issue

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Speaker 1: of Texas All Access. I am John Harris, football analyst.

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Speaker 1: It's all I report for your Houston Texans and your

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Speaker 1: host for this evening and one half of the In

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Speaker 1: the Lab podcast. The other half is my man Drew Dorry.

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Speaker 1: We got together and kicked it around, talking about training

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Speaker 1: camp and everything we haven't looked forward to right about now.

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Speaker 1: But last week we teased this week's in the Lab

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, by pointing out Jim McMahon, the quarterback for Bears. Yep,

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Speaker 1: Jim McMahon's all time They're not all time, but some

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Speaker 1: stretches of his career where his team basically didn't lose

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Speaker 1: games when he started. So with that in mind, we

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Speaker 1: wanted to kind of localize things and say which Texan

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Speaker 1: do you wish could have had a three year stretch

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Speaker 1: of total health. So you can go lots of ways

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Speaker 1: with that, but just as a refresher, check this out.

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Speaker 1: So Jim McMahon most notable for being the punky QB

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Speaker 1: of the nineteen eighty five Bears, fifteen and one one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest teams of all time. The one loss

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Speaker 1: was to the Dolphins in Miami on Monday Night football.

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Speaker 1: He did not start that game. He played in a

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Speaker 1: little did not start that game. In fact, that season

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Speaker 1: he only started eleven games eleven and oh, though every

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Speaker 1: game he started Day won. The next year eighty six

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Speaker 1: only started six games, but they were six and oh

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Speaker 1: in those games that he started. So in a tier stretch,

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Speaker 1: he was seventeen and ozer. In eighty four, he was

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Speaker 1: seven and two as a starter, and then he went

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Speaker 1: five and one in eighty seven. So think about that,

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Speaker 1: in a one two, three four years span, he lost

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Speaker 1: five games total as a starter. His team lost five

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Speaker 1: games total. As a star starter. He played a long

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Speaker 1: time in the NFL. All time, his teams were sixty

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Speaker 1: seven and thirty as a starter. So he was with

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Speaker 1: the Bears eighty two to eighty eight. Forgot about that

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Speaker 1: season in San Diego with the Chargers right at nine,

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Speaker 1: he went four and seven. Ers teams did four and seven.

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Speaker 1: But then he was with the Eagles ninety one, eight

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Speaker 1: and three as a starter with them, eight and four

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Speaker 1: with Minnesota in ninety three, and then he was a

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Speaker 1: backup with the Green Bay Packers and they won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He still wore his number nine Bears jersey

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Speaker 1: to the White House because Bears didn't get to visit

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Speaker 1: the White House that year right after they won because

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Speaker 1: the Challenger explosion. Six. Yeah, so with all that in mind,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy went, if they'd if he played,

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Speaker 1: they'd probably win Super Bowls. But he was injured, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's a darn shame. So I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: from twelve thirteen, fourteen, if the Texans could have had

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Speaker 1: healthy Brian Cushing, who played the way he did in

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Speaker 1: eleven and who played the way he was playing in

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Speaker 1: the first four to five games of twelve, and then

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Speaker 1: up against the Jets on Monday Night football, Texans are

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Speaker 1: four or back of his knee gets run into ACL

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Speaker 1: and then the next Streek comes back thirteen at the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs middle of the season, another ACL. So there was

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Speaker 1: a stat. Evan Kotch and the media relations crew here

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Speaker 1: back then they put together the stat and it was

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Speaker 1: in eleven and started with twelve the Texans defense with

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Speaker 1: Cushing the Texans defense without and it was a stark start.

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Speaker 1: It was almost a touchdown difference. I think if Cushing

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Speaker 1: is around and fully healthy, you know what, maybe that

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Speaker 1: playoff game goes differently at New England. Maybe that Monday

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Speaker 1: night game it was differently at New England because Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick would have had to fight a different mismatch to exploit.

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Speaker 1: But one he exploited was not the Texans wearing letterman jackets. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it was it was having a linebacker, an inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: who had been signed, you know, middle of the season,

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Speaker 1: a guy who would come off the street covering a

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Speaker 1: running backer, covering a wide receiver. I mean, Belichick did

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Speaker 1: a masterful job and the Patriots got their touchdowns off that.

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Speaker 1: I think it. If Cushing's around, there's no telling how

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Speaker 1: far the Texans might have gone. Now you could easily say, well,

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Speaker 1: what about the leader before I just just put shaub

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Speaker 1: in and have Yeah. But that's kind of like super

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Speaker 1: super obvious to me, and I think if you kind

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Speaker 1: of look a little bit further and think a little

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Speaker 1: bit deeper, maybe those Texans Because you gotta remember in eleven,

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Speaker 1: Cushing was the team MVP, not Owen Daniels who led

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Speaker 1: the team in receiving. Andrew Johnson miss a lot of time,

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Speaker 1: Arian Foster missed some time. They kind of tagged teamed in.

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Speaker 1: You never really had them altogether. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with Cushing in a twelve thirteen fourteen stretch. What do

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Speaker 1: the Texans do if that happens. I'm getting in the

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Speaker 1: building in twenty fourteen watching Cush and he had that

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Speaker 1: brace on. You could just he was he was gutting

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Speaker 1: it out doing everything you could play and he still

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Speaker 1: made a lot of still made a lot of plays,

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Speaker 1: the all time leader and franchise tackle, franchise leader in

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Speaker 1: all time tackles. I think of the thirteen gaming as Seattle.

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Speaker 1: That's the one that kind of stands out to me

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Speaker 1: because in that game, Marshawn Lynch is doing bub kiss

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Speaker 1: zero like zero. In that game, he has that one

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Speaker 1: run coming out of the end zone and that was

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Speaker 1: really it. And a large part of that was because

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Speaker 1: Cushing was was awesome that he goes out and then

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Speaker 1: the defense sort of yeah, he went out a couple

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Speaker 1: of games later, yeah he um he And to be fair,

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Speaker 1: Cushing was not a full full Cushing at that point

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Speaker 1: coming off the knee injury, right, but he was having

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Speaker 1: a heck of a game. He had the pick six

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Speaker 1: in Week one, you know. Yeah. So uh, I've I

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Speaker 1: will have different feelings about Cushing than I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people will because of the suspensions that he

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Speaker 1: had and that I think a lot of people will

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Speaker 1: look at Cushing. I just think he was everything you

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Speaker 1: wanted a football player to be. I mean he was

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Speaker 1: he was nasty, tucked, a little trash, smart, he was physical,

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Speaker 1: He ran. I mean, he could run um, but I

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Speaker 1: think ultimately he was a he was a great teammate.

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Speaker 1: He was somebody that took guys. I remember when Bernardi

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Speaker 1: McKinney came in here in twenty fifteen and B Mack

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Speaker 1: has no idea what to do none, I'll be Mack learned.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he had no idea. And I remember on Thursday

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Speaker 1: night they had to throw Bmac out there and Kush

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Speaker 1: is spending the entire game. B Mack, you're over here.

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Speaker 1: You got bap like he's the whole game. He's telling

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Speaker 1: him where to go, what to do. And I think

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Speaker 1: that was an underrated part of Kush in his career.

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad. I'm glad you brought him up because

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Speaker 1: I think him not being there in twelve. I remember

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Speaker 1: when he got when he got a kneecapped by a

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Speaker 1: particular Jets offensive lie I was. I was furious. I

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Speaker 1: was doing my my overnight show at that point, National Show,

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Speaker 1: so I was in the studio watching a game, get

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Speaker 1: ready for my show, and I just as soon as

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Speaker 1: I saw it happened, I was just livid because I

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Speaker 1: knew what what he meant. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: have somebody from for a three year period, but I

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Speaker 1: have somebody for a year. And I've thought about this

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Speaker 1: a lot, and I think Shob is the easy one

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Speaker 1: to go back to in twenty eleven, but I would

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Speaker 1: go back even further because I felt like Mario Williams

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Speaker 1: in twenty eleven getting hurt Week five, I think it was,

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Speaker 1: I think, or maybe it's Week six. Either way, he

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Speaker 1: had had five sacks through five games, and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well if he does that, that's sixteen. Okay, that's a good,

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Speaker 1: good number. But it wasn't even just the number of sacks.

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Speaker 1: It was how that was starting to come together up front.

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Speaker 1: Ninja was finding his sea legs, Mario was really and

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Speaker 1: there was all that talk about who he's going out

630
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: to three four outside linebacker. I'm like, look, man, there

631
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: didn't that big a difference in that particular in the NFL,

632
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: even at that point, because you're still playing a lot

633
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: of nickel. It's like, wait, It's like Wade Phillips said

634
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: that offseason going into it. He was at an event

635
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: here and somebody asked about the three four and he's like, well,

636
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: when when three guys were down in the three point stance.

637
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: It's a three four, we might put a fourth right,

638
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: And so I think Mario fit into it really, really well,

639
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: as we all thought he would. And JJ hadn't hit

640
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: his stride yet in twenty to eleven. He was still

641
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: kind of learning, right. So had Mario stayed healthy and

642
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: Watts finding his stride, brooks Read got some time because

643
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: Mario had gotten hurt, you would have had brooks Read

644
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: is kind of a fresh guy to rotate in at

645
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker spot, to be there on the outside

646
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: linebacker spot, but not having Mario out there in twenty eleven.

647
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: And I think about that Ravens playoff game a lot,

648
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: just driving around thinking about, you know, playoff games and such.

649
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: There are so many things that went against the Texans

650
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: in that game. Of course, Jacobe headbutting the football on

651
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: that one punt, just mistakes early on and then obviously

652
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: not offensively been being able to do a whole heck

653
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: of a lot, But that defense really a kept him

654
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: in the game. And b if you have Mario, does

655
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: it change even that much more on the defense and

656
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: what you're able to do. You're you're not facing Lamar Jackson,

657
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: You're facing Joe Flacco. I'm not gonna tell you he's

658
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: a statue, but he's a statue. So if you would

659
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: have Mario, and I'll say, this man in that time,

660
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, that's one of the toughest humans I've ever seen.

661
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: I was on the field for parts of that game,

662
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: part of the part of the regular season one in October,

663
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: and he got hammered. Yeah, that's the best defensive Texans

664
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: I've ever had. And they hammered him from all sides,

665
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: all directions, and I just remember thinking flaccos to I

666
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: don't know if he's the greatest sever I don't know

667
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: if he's a lead or whatever. That that became a

668
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: joke later. I know this, that guy is tougher than

669
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: titanium beef jerky. I'll give you one for a three

670
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: year period. Okay, so you already gave me Mario. That's good.

671
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: I gave Mario. But this is Laide Smith brings him up.

672
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: He's the only other person I hear that brings up

673
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: what if Mario had stayed health because everyone naturally says

674
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: what if Shaw be healthy that year? Here's one in particular,

675
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: the middle year of the three seventeen twenty eighteen twenty nineteen.

676
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: It was the guy that we always talked about that

677
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: could not stay healthy, Will Fuller, because when he was

678
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: on the field, holy bleep touchdowns. It was incredible what

679
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: he did. And I think as you watched the Texans

680
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: over those three years and you know the Shaun is

681
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, going through his growth period there, everybody thought,

682
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: oh he was going, hop because he's going because Sean

683
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: really had a connection with Fuller. Fuller was a guy

684
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: he really wanted to go to and you started to

685
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: see that a little bit in twenty seventeen. But he

686
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: can't really stay healthy throughout the year in seventeen, but

687
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: the middle year was eighteen. That was the year. And

688
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that Thursday night game against the Dolphins

689
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: and Brocks playing quarterback for the Dolphins, and it kind

690
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: of starts off a little a little shaky, you know

691
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. There was I think it was a turnover early,

692
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: but then all of a sudden, it was the game

693
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: went to a different level. You know, Hop has that

694
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: catch on the far sideline where he kind of trapped

695
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: it between his legs and they called him for OPI

696
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: and it was like after that, Wow, Fuller had the

697
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: long seventy three yard bomb. He had another touchdown catch

698
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: for a bomb and was the one worry tore as

699
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: a Sea. I don't have forget going in the locker

700
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: room and getting my my postgame interview. I happened to

701
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: see John Perry, who's another offensive coordinator at Sam Houston,

702
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: was the receiver's coach, and he was kind of shaking

703
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: hands and I just said, Johnny. They turned around and

704
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: I just kind of put my hands up, like what

705
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: do you know? And he just looked at me and

706
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: shook his head. I'm like, oh, no, he played the year.

707
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: That's the year twenty eighteen. That's the one because seven games,

708
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: beat beat, Billy beat, I don't know, beat one of

709
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 1: those teams. Not lose to Indianapolis. Keep the street going.

710
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: You just gotta win one to get the home field,

711
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: get the buy, and get home field in the divisional

712
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: playoff round. Now you're probably are gonna have to play

713
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots at home indivisional playoff round. But if you

714
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: have Will Fuller on an eighteen squad, I'll go gainst

715
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: anybody in eighteen. I don't care who it is. I'll

716
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: go gainst anybody in eighteen with will Fuller, completely were

717
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: four touchdowns in seven games. In eighteen he had seven touchdowns.

718
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: He started ten games that year, but they weren't all

719
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: all those starts weren't with Watson. I think if I

720
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: don't remember the numbers, but if he's just taking into

721
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: accounts starts with Watson, that number kind of per game rises.

722
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: And then I didn't realize this. In nineteen he only

723
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: had he played in eleven games. Yeah, he only had

724
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: three touchdown catches. But when you brought him up, I thought, initially, Okay,

725
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: well sixteen games, apiece. I think it's I don't think

726
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: it's based on what he did. Crazy to say you

727
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: could probably slid in thirty six touchdowns? Yeah, I mean,

728
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: there's he was just such a weapon. How many teamed

729
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: up with Yeah? Yeah, I mean how many did you

730
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: lose with him not being on the field at that point?

731
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he and and you know it's funny. I

732
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: had a conversation on a podcast last night about Frank Gore,

733
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: and Frank Gore came to the NFL with two or

734
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: three ACL terris and there's always quote, how durable is

735
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: he gonna be? He gets the NFL and he played forever.

736
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: You know, he played like as long as a teenager.

737
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous. Will Fuller had never been heard and

738
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: Notre Dame got to the NFL and they could never

739
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: stay healthy. So it was just you never know about

740
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: those particular things. But for that three year stretch seventeen

741
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, yeah, that dude was unbelievable. And it was

742
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: all spurred on by me texting this guy about a

743
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: month ago about Jim McMahon, because the guy never played

744
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: more than fourteen games in the season, never started he

745
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: started thirteen a second year in eighty three with the Bears,

746
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: and I don't know, going back to BYU if I

747
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: don't know if he was an injury prone or not,

748
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: but Dann, he was one of those by U quarterbacks

749
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: that lit it up with Lavelle Edwards back in the day.

750
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: You know the Bears. You know there's a thirty for

751
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: thirty on the eighty five Bears, and of course they

752
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: talked about how they got to where they were, how

753
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: they were built basically, and then talked about that season

754
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: how special it was. Every single guy that they interviewed

755
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: said the exact same thing that Jim McMahon's an ability

756
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: to stay healthy. Now, they were a little bit they

757
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: were a little bit more bitter about it because they

758
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: felt like McMahon could have changed his style of play

759
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: a little bit to stay healthier. Yes, but in eighty

760
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: six it's one of the dirtiest plays. Oh yeah, yeah,

761
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: he got he basically got bodies. Yeah after the play. Yeah,

762
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean we're proud of but yeah, you're exactly. There

763
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: was nothing you can do about that. But his style

764
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: of play led to him doad first, missing games and

765
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: things like that, and and whatever I think of Jim

766
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: McMahon the he's kind of the same but the polar

767
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: opposite in some sense. I think it fitsy and I

768
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: hate to cut off in the lab at that particular moment,

769
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: but I need to. So if you want to hear

770
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: why say that about Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jim McMahon, Well,

771
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: I'll go to Texas dot Com, go to the podcast

772
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: page and voila, it's right there. We'll go around the

773
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: NFL next right here on Texas All Access. Yes, yes,

774
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we got one final segment of this Wednesday

775
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: the issue of Texas All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio.

776
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: I am John Harris, football analyst. It's time to go

777
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: around the NFL, and I want to go to one place.

778
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: Unfortunately today, because it was a double whammy of despair

779
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: in Baltimore with a few sure Raven and a former

780
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: beloved Raven. Two Ravens passed away within the last probably

781
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: twelve to twenty four hours. We'll start with the current one.

782
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson was a star at Louisiana Tech, pass rusher

783
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: off the edge. I remember in that twenty nineteen game

784
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: that we played against him. He's a rookie and we're

785
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: playing up there and DeShawn scrambled around and Ferguson just

786
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: tracks some tracks, some sacks. Start the Gamatha. Oh boy,

787
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: this is not gonna be good. He's the all time

788
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: leading NC double A sac artist at the age of

789
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: twenty six, passed away in Baltimore today. I think it

790
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: was last night. Sorry, in his sleep, just as sad.

791
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean, just the gut punch of that of a

792
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: current teammate. I mean a guy, you know, you go

793
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: out for a break and you're like, hey man, I'll

794
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: see a training campbell, stay in touch, let's work out,

795
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: let's you know, get grab a bike, whatever, and he

796
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: was staying in the Baltimore area. Passed away in his sleep.

797
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: Jethen Ferguson of the Baltimore Ravens. Then a little earlier

798
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: this afternoon, later in the day, I started seeing some

799
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: tweets as it referenced top Gun a little bit. I

800
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: saw the word goose, and I wasn't putting two two together.

801
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: I was like, man, what's this about something Anthony Edwards.

802
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't. Kind of I was taking it more literal,

803
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: and then I thought Goose, Oh Goose. Goose is the

804
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: nickname of Tony Sarah Goosa. Antony Sarah Goose to, the

805
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: longtime nose tackle for the Baltimore Ravens, also passed away

806
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: in his sleep. He was fifty five. He was an

807
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: instrumental piece for the Baltimore Ravens. The very first Hard

808
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: Knox was done with the Ravens in the two thousand

809
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: and one season after they won a championship and Sarah

810
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: Goosa stole the show. I mean, he was just a riot.

811
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 1: He and Shannon Sharpe would go at it all the time.

812
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: Goose then went into the broadcasting business. He worked with Fox.

813
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: He worked down on the sidelines. He was kind of

814
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: more like I like to think of myself as like

815
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: a field analyst. That's kind of what he was, and

816
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: just a a mountain of a man, but just a

817
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: gem of a human being from everybody to talk to.

818
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: Tony Sarah Goosa passed at the age of fifty five.

819
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: So the Baltimore Ravens really suffering through the last twenty

820
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: four hours, losing an absolute legend Tony Sarah Goosa and

821
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: a young man who was on his way to being

822
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: a being a raven. And that's something special for people

823
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: I play for the Ravens, you know, like when you

824
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: watch the Ravens, you go, Okay, that guy's a raven.

825
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson was absolutely a raven and he has gone

826
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: way too soon, as was Goose Tony Sarah Goosa. So

827
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 1: a tough day for the Baltimore community. But our hearts

828
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: and thoughts go out to everybody wearing purple up there

829
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. A big thanks to Mark Vanimir, to Judoherty

830
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: of course, to Brevit Jordan from a man of JP

831
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: and all of you listening out there. We couldn't do

832
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: without you. Thank you so much. With seed tomorrow and

833
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: as always, go Texans.