WEBVTT - Stories That Got a Brand New Bag (With Noel Brown!)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Hashtag Storytime, the podcast where I

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<v Speaker 1>bring you everyday stories from everyday people, brought to you

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<v Speaker 1>by I Heart Radio and Curativity. I'm your host, Will

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest working man in show business mc fadden. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's episode six. What is this? Episode six? And I

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<v Speaker 1>am exhausted. Making a podcast is hard. It's a feat.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you guys understand how much goes into

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<v Speaker 1>this thing that only a few of you are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to and generates little to no income. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to peel back the curtain and show you how the

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<v Speaker 1>sausage is made. Okay, I'm gonna fighte you and bring

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<v Speaker 1>you in to my sausage party. Suck on that seth Rogan,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you may have a taste of my podcast sausage. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>first order of business when creating an episode of Hashtag

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<v Speaker 1>Storytime is we have to find a guest, because absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to listen to an episode that's just me

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<v Speaker 1>talking for thirty minutes. And the challenge in finding a

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<v Speaker 1>guest is we have to find somebody who doesn't like money,

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<v Speaker 1>because uh, we don't pay them. So that's always challenging

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody who has free time on their hand and

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<v Speaker 1>most importantly has a good story to tell. But luckily,

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<v Speaker 1>I have an amazing producer named Jason who does all

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<v Speaker 1>of that for me. And then second, we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>record with the guests, and you know that takes equipment

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<v Speaker 1>that someone graciously purchased and set up for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we got to write a script, and we got

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<v Speaker 1>to write jokes if you can call them that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that was one right there. Thankfully, Jason also does

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<v Speaker 1>this for me. Um note to Jason if in the

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<v Speaker 1>future episodes, if the jokes could be funnier, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be preferable. Then I get into the studio and by

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<v Speaker 1>studio I mean closet, and I record these quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>jokes and I send all of this crazy crap off

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<v Speaker 1>to my editor Tony, who literally does everything, and Tony

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<v Speaker 1>sends it back with a nice shiny bow on it.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds all pretty and crisp, and that's the final

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<v Speaker 1>product that gets delivered directly to your little earbuds. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you think we'd be done right, but wrong, because

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<v Speaker 1>we also have to promote the show, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to make social media content to do that, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know how to do that, So

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<v Speaker 1>thankfully I have two more producers, Danielle and Jordan, who

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<v Speaker 1>make really awesome, engaging content for our Instagram, Twitter and TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not following us there, you should go do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're missing out. Oh god, I mean it is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work. I mean, I'm ready for a nap

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about it. Wait. Also shout out to Jessica Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>They do a lot of stuff too, So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as you can see, I'm pretty much the hardest working

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<v Speaker 1>man show business, kind of like the James Brown of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, which leads me to our story today from

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<v Speaker 1>Noel Brown. You might know Noel from Ridiculous History and

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of other I heard podcast, but Nolan I

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<v Speaker 1>sat down and he told me a story that involved

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<v Speaker 1>his first job, James Brown and possessed microphone stand. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was in late high school early college. For probably

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<v Speaker 1>span about four years, five years maybe, I worked at

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's Music, which was a music store in my hometown

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<v Speaker 1>of August And it's the kind of job where when

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<v Speaker 1>you're like a teenager, you know, you get to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the music store. You're into guitars, and drums and things.

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<v Speaker 1>You think, that's where, that's what you want in your life,

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<v Speaker 1>that that could be like the best possible job opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>to work in that place that you like to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out in. UM. But as happens with with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of job, you know, when you kind of part the

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<v Speaker 1>curtain and realize how the sausages made, uh, it sort

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<v Speaker 1>of sucks some of the magic out of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely did that. It wasn't wasn't quite the Empire

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<v Speaker 1>Records experience that you were. One of the owners had

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<v Speaker 1>the worst case of obsessive compulsive disorder that I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>experienced in my entire life. And for whatever reason, for

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<v Speaker 1>a time I was her go to person to help

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<v Speaker 1>her check in merchandise. Um. The store was always a wreck.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always just kind of like stacks of boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>She was always quote unquote uh catching up um. But

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<v Speaker 1>this was a permanent state of affairs, just catching up

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<v Speaker 1>everything exactly. And my job was to sit with her

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<v Speaker 1>while she you know, went through these invoices and checked

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<v Speaker 1>off the items that were in the boxes of the shipments,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, I would take them and put

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<v Speaker 1>them on the shelf, tag them, et cetera. UM, just

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<v Speaker 1>just to show you how deep her O C D extended.

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<v Speaker 1>A drum set typically comes shipped in two very large boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>very very large. One of them has like the kick drum,

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<v Speaker 1>and within that has nested like the snare drum and

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<v Speaker 1>some other hardware and things, and the other one has

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<v Speaker 1>all of the tom tom drums like kind of nested

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<v Speaker 1>within each other. She would like count them one, two, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>count it back to me. And I'd go one two,

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<v Speaker 1>and she go okay, ok count of back to me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like one, okay, one more time and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're good. And this is you know, obviously this is

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<v Speaker 1>a serious condition. And she um wasn't medicated for I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe, and if she was, it definitely wasn't working. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>She was also very unpleasant person. So it was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of one thing UM adding on to the other. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was one kind of magical UM thing that

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<v Speaker 1>happened every year, UM that I always looked forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a couple of things actually, so one of

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<v Speaker 1>them was UM. This was in Augusta, Georgia, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the home of two things, James Brown and the Master's

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<v Speaker 1>Golf Tournaments. James Brown was born there and he lived

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<v Speaker 1>there up until he passed away. Actually, uh and the

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<v Speaker 1>Master's Golf tournament to this day continues to to be

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<v Speaker 1>held there, right next to where Jay's music was. It

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer there because the Augusta National Um basically

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<v Speaker 1>has been buying up every piece of property around the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course for many many years. Jay's was the loan

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<v Speaker 1>holdout for a long time, and I guess they finally

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<v Speaker 1>offered him enough money. Um. So now it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>bulldozed and it doesn't exist anymore. Um. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>if Augusta was cool, if the Masters was cool, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have had James Brown play there every year. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if I'm sure you know that the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the Masters, and probably of golf in general,

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<v Speaker 1>as a pretty checkered racial uh you know, bias kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pass it was. You know, they only let Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>Woods play because he was like super awesome and wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like that black. Um So. In fact, Dave Chappelle when

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<v Speaker 1>he did a stand up bit um when he played

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<v Speaker 1>in august stuff, and he walked on stage and said,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Augusta, Georgia. The whitest and blackest city in America, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was was very funny. UM. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Masters was fun because we'd closed the store essentially and

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<v Speaker 1>then us kids would just would park cars, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, we'd sometimes get tips and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just like an excuse to not have

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<v Speaker 1>to really work and just kind of hang out and

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<v Speaker 1>chat and you know, smoke weed and stuff, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty awesome. Um. The other favorite part of the

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<v Speaker 1>year was James Brown related. Um. Every year, James Brown

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<v Speaker 1>would rent a bunch of equipment from Jay's to do

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<v Speaker 1>rehearsals for his upcoming tours. He was you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>known as the hardest working man in show business, which

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<v Speaker 1>meant he was on the road constantly and well the

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<v Speaker 1>second hardest. We do share a last name in fact them,

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<v Speaker 1>but no no relation only in work ethic when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to show business. UM. But his management or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>figured it was easier to rent equipment from Jay's, including

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<v Speaker 1>the drums down to every single thing, you know, guitars,

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<v Speaker 1>guitar amps, all of you know, the whole the whole nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and set it up in this local theater called the

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<v Speaker 1>Imperial Theater. It was cheaper to do that than it

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<v Speaker 1>was to take their stuff off of the road or

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<v Speaker 1>off of their like storage because they were they were

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<v Speaker 1>playing internationally, they were always all over the place. So

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<v Speaker 1>me and my co workers every year, Um, sometimes maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it happened twice a year. I'm just kind of getting

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<v Speaker 1>a little hazy, but we would take whatever they needed,

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Imperial Theater, set it all up, including

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<v Speaker 1>chairs for the horn sections and you know everything. We

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get like, you know, told where to put

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<v Speaker 1>things by H. James's road manager or Mr Brown. Excuse

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<v Speaker 1>me if you ever called him anything but Mr Brown

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<v Speaker 1>getting big trouble. Um, he was very very formal guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Brown's road manager would tell us where to put everything.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd set everything up, um, mike everything up, including like

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<v Speaker 1>p A monitors, microphones, everything on the stage, so literally

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<v Speaker 1>on the stage of the Imperial Theater, which is this

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<v Speaker 1>really cool old theater in Augusta, where I also used

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<v Speaker 1>to work. After my Jay's days, I was a live

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<v Speaker 1>sound guy for a period and I worked at the

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<v Speaker 1>Imperial Theater doing sound for theater productions and live bands

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that. But this was just before that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so you were essentially a like a roadie for James Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a roadie, a miniature roady, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>a day. It was actually more than a day because

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<v Speaker 1>it was like we'd have the set up, the load in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'd practiced for like two or three days,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'd come back at the end and pick

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<v Speaker 1>it all up. Um and my good friends still to

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<v Speaker 1>this day. A guy named j. J. Bowers Um was

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of senior member of the Jay's music staff.

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<v Speaker 1>And by that I mean at the time he was

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<v Speaker 1>probably like what like twenty four, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like he was the veteran. Yeah, totally, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I was. I must have been seventeen or eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>something along those lines. Isn't a weird age, like you

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<v Speaker 1>know in retrospect, you know, seniors in high school when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in fifth grade, seemed like they may as well

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<v Speaker 1>be like fifty, you know. Uh, from where you stand,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like that. I looked up to J. J.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the best drummer to this day that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever known in my life. Absolutely, he can almost rent

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<v Speaker 1>a car. He's so awesome, right in incredible. Um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of stuff we talked about, you know, But

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, it wasn't even old enough to drink yet. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>just driving barely for a for a handful of years

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. So we'd set up all the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we go back to the store, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>drag because it was like, oh man, the fun you know,

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<v Speaker 1>little diversion Um is now done, and now we have

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to having to sell Taylor guitars. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, I was the guy that like reach

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<v Speaker 1>strung all the guitars and did all the repairs and things,

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<v Speaker 1>which was fun. I definitely learned a lot, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was also like under the watchful eye of of the

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<v Speaker 1>owner of this store, whose name was Vera Um. It

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<v Speaker 1>was very stern task mistress. As as I've as I've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of made clear I think um, but we always

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<v Speaker 1>had to look forward to when we get to go

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<v Speaker 1>back and take everything down because then we get to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with j J. We kind of got to

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<v Speaker 1>take our time. It isn't like you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the evening usually, even though that was

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<v Speaker 1>like technically we were working over time to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>In our minds, you know, our teenage minds, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a privilege to be able to do this. So

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to um the the theater, and I

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that they're not finished yet. They're they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>not done um rehearsing, and so I'm standing outside with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my my buddy at the time, who I

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<v Speaker 1>was working with, and we're listening to them like wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up their set, and you know, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you ever saw James Brown live, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is like super theatrical, incredible, funky, you know horns and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone in his band as the top of

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<v Speaker 1>their game. He was notorious for like if if someone

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<v Speaker 1>in the band like made a mistake, you know, while

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<v Speaker 1>they were playing, he would just kind of covertly say

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<v Speaker 1>gotcha and point at him. And you know, if if

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever listened to me James brown songs, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the lyrics quote unquote are really just him kind

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<v Speaker 1>of riffing and going down take it to the bride.

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<v Speaker 1>He just live got you in there, and no one

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<v Speaker 1>would be the wiser, but a band member would know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that means I'm getting my pay docs I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard stories about him in the studio too, if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if they made a mistake that they would get their

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<v Speaker 1>their pay docked. That's right. He was all about efficiency. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And you listen to him, you know, because he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>directing the chorus, you know what I mean. He's like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, take you to the bridge, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, here comes the chorus or whatever. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a band leader, is what he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a very old fashioned kind of in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>He would conduct the band, um, and he was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who you know, you would look to for the

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<v Speaker 1>changes and all of that, and if you messed up,

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<v Speaker 1>then he'd get you and and you'd get got and

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<v Speaker 1>then you'd get docked. Um. So I'm out there listening to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this performance, and it's like, I'm young music nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is pretty cool. I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>more at that time kind of into like incubus and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, system of a down. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>ever went to went down the po d road, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was definitely into like harder kind of radio rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of my parents were actually opera singers, so I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up without like a mentor for like popular music.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of had to find it myself. Both of

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<v Speaker 1>my parents they looked at music as work and so

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<v Speaker 1>then they were working on um, whatever opera they were

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<v Speaker 1>singing in, or my dad was a chorl conductor they

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<v Speaker 1>were studying. You know, it wasn't like listening for for kicks.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of had to find my way to

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<v Speaker 1>my own musical taste, which meant that I had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of embarrassing years where I was listening to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>new metal and you know, Limp Biscuit and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>which probably way super stoked about the newlymp Biscuit record

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<v Speaker 1>that just dropped. I didn't even know. I mean last

0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:43.960
<v Speaker 1>olymp Biscuit news I heard was watching the Woodstock documentary. Yeah, yeah, well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they apparently have a new album coming that just came

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<v Speaker 1>out called Limp Biscuit Still Sucks. And now Fred Durst

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<v Speaker 1>is going with this kind of like dad vibe. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've seen pictures of him where

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<v Speaker 1>he's got like a fake gray wig on and like

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<v Speaker 1>a gray Mutton chop situation. And I remember when he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote he wrote a movie that John Travolta was in.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot going on there, a lot going

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<v Speaker 1>on there. Um it's called The Fanatic or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about like a mentally disturbed, stalkery fan of an actor,

0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and John Travolta really gives it as all you can't,

0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you can't, you can't do that. Um. But anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like I didn't fully appreciate. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>what I was witnessing, Like I sort of maybe took

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<v Speaker 1>it for granted a little bit and just looked at

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<v Speaker 1>as an as an excuse to kind of get away

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<v Speaker 1>from work and kind of like you know, not be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bust around or whatever. And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like it was just more of like an escape. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was hearing them play and it was definitely cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think I walked away because the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm the scene that I'm about to describe, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not hear firsthand. I I what I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>describe I heard describes to me when I went in,

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<v Speaker 1>So I couldn't have been standing out there listening the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time because I didn't hear any of this that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to tell you. So I'm assuming that I

0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.760
<v Speaker 1>walked away for whatever reason. And I came back a

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<v Speaker 1>little while later and they were done, and the backstage

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<v Speaker 1>door was open. There's like a big loading duck kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situation in the back of the Imperial with like

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, one of those garage doors that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of roll up and then like a ramp. And I

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<v Speaker 1>walked out on the stage and you know, a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of musicians are still there, um packing up their stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the spot where where James Brown would have

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<v Speaker 1>been singing. You know, he he always used a straight

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<v Speaker 1>microphone stand, and he was he was known for like

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<v Speaker 1>manipulating the mic stand and like, you know, kicking it

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<v Speaker 1>down and popping it back up with his foot or

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<v Speaker 1>like doing little you know things that like Prince would

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<v Speaker 1>have kind of learned from him, these kind of moves,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And everyone has gathered around, not everyone, but

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<v Speaker 1>like a handful of people are gathered around this mic stand,

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<v Speaker 1>just like staring in awe and I'm kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what's going on. I get a little

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<v Speaker 1>closer and I kind of peeked through the crowd and

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<v Speaker 1>I see that the mic stand. It's a straight mic stand.

0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not sitting straight though, it's sitting at this weird

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<v Speaker 1>canted angle, like like like it's tilted to the side.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's resting on the edge of the round microphone

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<v Speaker 1>and stand base, and it's sort of like a magic trick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what is keeping this thing from falling over?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand, And and clearly a lot of other

0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.960
<v Speaker 1>people didn't understand either, because everyone's looking at this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with like wonder in their eyes. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I look a little closer, and I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>the cord, the mic cord, had kind of wrapped itself

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<v Speaker 1>around the base of the stand just such a way

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<v Speaker 1>that it was like holding it up and and and

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<v Speaker 1>and at this like canton angle. And this is weird,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So I go to my friend j J.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the hell is going on? What's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with this mice? He's like, dude, it was insane.

0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.840
<v Speaker 1>So they're like doing their big finale and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, probably the beginning of which I had heard.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I walked away for a bit and then

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<v Speaker 1>came back. Um, and James does this move where he

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<v Speaker 1>spins around and he kicks the mic stand over and

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<v Speaker 1>then he pops it back up with his foot, like

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<v Speaker 1>when the things like almost on the floor, he takes

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<v Speaker 1>his foot and kicks it down onto the base of

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<v Speaker 1>the stand and it pops it back up straight. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was known for doing that, like several times in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. You do a spin, pop it down, kick

0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.280
<v Speaker 1>it back up, to another spin, pop it back down,

0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.240
<v Speaker 1>kick it back up. And apparently, um, according to my

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.320
<v Speaker 1>friend j J, on the third um iteration of that

0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:18.280
<v Speaker 1>spinning kickdown and pop back up, it stops halfway, stops halfway,

0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and James Brown freaks out. He likes, he backs away

0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.040
<v Speaker 1>from the mic, stan he he stops everybody, he stops

0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.359
<v Speaker 1>the band from playing. He said, stop, you know, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody you know take five. And he is clearly just

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<v Speaker 1>like been spooked in a very real way by what

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<v Speaker 1>has happened here. Um, his road manager, I believe it

0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.879
<v Speaker 1>was his road manager might have been as manager manager,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a guy named Ronnie van Zant, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the best name for a you know, musician adjacent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of grizzled to her. Guy that could ever possibly

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<v Speaker 1>be um, he apparent my friend j J. Here's all

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<v Speaker 1>this transpire. He says, he leaned into Ronnie. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>Ronnie go get the flag. And so you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>that period of James Brown where he would do the

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<v Speaker 1>thing with the Cape, you know, and like he had

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<v Speaker 1>he had this like hype band named um Uh Donny

0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Danny Ray, who actually recently passed away. I knew Danny r.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew a lot of the people in his band.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just around. They would they were shop at

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<v Speaker 1>the music store, like it was sort of like just

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<v Speaker 1>he was just kind of a fixture, like the way

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Stipe there's a fixture in Athens, Georgia, like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of James Brown was always kind of around, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way that like Andy Dick is a fixture

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<v Speaker 1>of West Hollywood, yeah exactly. Or even Um I forget

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's name, but he played Josh in the office,

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<v Speaker 1>who was kind of the boss of the UM the

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<v Speaker 1>Stanford branch, like carried his bike into work and Jim

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<v Speaker 1>kind of he had an affinity for him or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy whatever that actor's name is. He's also in

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<v Speaker 1>the show called Um Outer Banks that's very popular. He

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<v Speaker 1>apparently I was in Nashville for a conference recently and

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<v Speaker 1>saw him at every bar, like and and like there's

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<v Speaker 1>this really famous karaoke place in Nahville called Santa's. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like in a double wide trailer and it's really really

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<v Speaker 1>cool Um, and he was there and he's sang in

0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.000
<v Speaker 1>her sand Man and so he's like, you know, clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, James Brown was like that guy UM and

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<v Speaker 1>Andy dick Uh to Augusta, Georgia. Um. He didn't live

0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in Augusta, though he lived in South Carolina. He lived

0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.960
<v Speaker 1>in a little city called Beach Island, South Carolina, which

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<v Speaker 1>is where he's like, you know, James Brown estate was.

0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.480
<v Speaker 1>But he all he had like a radio station that

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<v Speaker 1>he owned in Augusta, and he was always just around.

0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.520
<v Speaker 1>My A good buddy of mine named Coco had a

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<v Speaker 1>venue called the Soul Bar that was obviously named after

0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the godfather of soul, and it was full of all

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<v Speaker 1>this James Brown memorabilia, and James I think got a

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<v Speaker 1>kick out of the fem sorry, Mr Brown got a

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<v Speaker 1>kick out of the fact that someone you know had

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<v Speaker 1>made a bar in his basically hometown. UM dedicated him,

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<v Speaker 1>so he popped in every now and then. There's pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of him and my friend's daughter as she was growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in all that very very very very cool. But

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<v Speaker 1>I had never seen the man. Everybody I you had

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<v Speaker 1>seen him at some point or another where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's like in the grocery store or just somewhere

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>his beach child and there's not a lot going on,

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>so he would probably you know, it's very closely. He

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<v Speaker 1>would probably go into town if he was doing it himself,

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<v Speaker 1>or like, you know, send somebody. But um, I had

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody I knew had had some James Brown store where

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<v Speaker 1>they had seen James Brown. They did encounter James Brown.

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:20.720
<v Speaker 1>They said, oh, Mr Brown, it's it's it's an honor

0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:22.400
<v Speaker 1>to meet you. And he would just kind of mumble

0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and like walk away. But everyone had a story and

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have one. I never encountered him in the flesh. Um.

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.840
<v Speaker 1>And even at this thing where I'm doing what I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't see James Brown. I see the aftermath

0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of James Brown. I see his band. I see this

0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.919
<v Speaker 1>weird mic stands you know, um that's like sitting at

0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.399
<v Speaker 1>this canted angle. But James Brown has left the building

0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 1>at this point, so he says Ronnie van zand you

0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.359
<v Speaker 1>know this is when I'm not there, go get the flag,

0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and j J is picturing him bringing out some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of glistening American flag like you know, uh, star studded

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:11.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of Ryan Stone cape right that he's gonna drape

0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.159
<v Speaker 1>over him or do some crazy thing. Um. That is

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.560
<v Speaker 1>not what what Ronnie van Zandt brought out. Um. Ronnie

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:22.080
<v Speaker 1>van zan brought out a tiny American flag on a stick,

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 1>like you'd buy it like a gift shop for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a national monument or something like you know what I mean,

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 1>like the fourth of July thing like the one that

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:36.200
<v Speaker 1>little Evie waves around in gray Gardens? Have ever seen that?

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Very similar to that? Um, he gives it, he gives

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:45.399
<v Speaker 1>it to James, and then James holds it and leads

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody in the building, the band, everybody who susy asked

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>to stop playing in an acapella round of God Bless America. Um.

0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:01.120
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, that's that's what happened. And I'm

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.359
<v Speaker 1>hearing this from Jam like what that's crazy? What what

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand? And then somebody else, some older person, UM,

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember if it was somebody with the theater

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.080
<v Speaker 1>or if somebody in the band or whatever, they kind

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 1>of clewe us into what was really going on here. Um,

0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:20.399
<v Speaker 1>James is uh. Mr Brown's previous wife had passed away

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 1>not terribly terribly long ago before this happened. And guess

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:29.200
<v Speaker 1>where they had her funeral at that theater, at the

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Imperial Theater, and her casket was laid in the exact

0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:41.400
<v Speaker 1>place where his microphone stand was situated. And I mean,

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the only implication being that he had to have in

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:50.160
<v Speaker 1>some way thought that the ghost of his dead wife

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 1>was holding up that mic stand from beyond the grave. Um.

0:22:57.040 --> 0:23:00.119
<v Speaker 1>Now he didn't never say that, and and it's just conjecture, R.

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 1>But I mean he he really looked at it, like,

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you know again and I trust my friend, you know, implicitly,

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>he he looked at this thing like he's, you know,

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like you've seen a ghost and it's a cliche for

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a reason. Um. And then he, you know, did all

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>this kind of ceremonial stuff. UM. I just think that's

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 1>what it had to be. And I after I hear this,

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, holy cow, this is incredible. Um. At the

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>time I was, I think this is I think I

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>was actually early college by this point, maybe, but I

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 1>was only like a round eighteen and I had a

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.120
<v Speaker 1>like a Pentax black and white, you know, um, thirty

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>five millimeter camera and it was in my car. And

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 1>this is this is before smartphones. You know this is like,

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.720
<v Speaker 1>so I ran to my car to get this this camera.

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>My car was probably a block away, and um I

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>came back and of course and you know, the taking

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 1>down of all the stuff and you know, straightening up

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and getting things to reset. The mike stand had been

0:23:57.040 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 1>knocked back down to it's uh, it's original straight a position.

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Damn um. And then it was it was a handful

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>of years later I was I was still in college,

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 1>but for for a time. UM, I was actually an

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>intern for public radio for Georgia Public Radio while I

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>was still in college, and I was studying broadcast journalism,

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and I I went, I got into University of Georgia

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>for music, but I decided not to go because so

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>many people that I knew I was, I played in

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 1>bands and kind of it was always into you know, music,

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and I staid working at Jay's. Everyone that I knew

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 1>that went on to go to music school or study

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>music academically ended up hating it, or it ended up

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>like sucking the joy out of you know music, the

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>same way working at the music store kind of sucked

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the joy out of music stores for me. So I decided,

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe about to go a different path UM.

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>So I studied broadcast journalism, went to my hometown university

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>UM and I you know, interned there for a while

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>as a kind of about answer phones during UM requests

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.200
<v Speaker 1>like a classical music request show. My boss was this

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>old dude named Alan Cook, who I adore very much

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 1>this day. He was like a former He used to

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>write jingles like in um uh St Louis was a

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>big jingle town on the fifties or something, and he

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 1>was an excellent guitarist and just a really cool dude

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and had this classical music request showed. My job was

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to answer the phones. These little blue hair ladies would

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>call in and make their requests for like you know,

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>um firebirds, sweeten your very obvious things every single week

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and I would write it down a little sticky note

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and running into his his booth and stick it on

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the desk and he'd play the request. UM. Eventually, Georgia

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Public Broadcasting the side and they wanted to do news

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>out of all of their bureaus UH and Augusta was

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>one of them, and Alan was like about to retire.

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 1>He's like I'm not doing that. Um, nol, you figure

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>out how to do news for these radio people, and

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>so I would do little news packages and you know,

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 1>get vox pop they called it like tape man on

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the street sound and you know, during elections, local elections

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. And occasionally if a big story

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>happened in little Augusta like then now I would cover

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:06.959
<v Speaker 1>the masters and do little packages for you know, NPR

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 1>sports like I got a few pieces on NPR. But

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the my big break, I guess you could say, is

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>when Mr James Brown passed away on Christmas Day of

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't fully recall what year it was. Let's look

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>it up just so I can sound smart, um James Brown.

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>It was twenty No, it was two thousand six. He

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 1>died on December twenty five of two thousand six at

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Emory University Hospital in Atlanta. And there was all this

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 1>crazy controversy around his death because he was infamous for

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of not having his ship together in terms of

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>like business type stuff, like he should have and could

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>have made way more money than he did if he

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>had had like some higher powered, you know, entertainment agency

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 1>looking after his interests. But he always just had friends

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and local people. And I think people were like Robbin

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>from the Kiddie and things like that, and it just

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't you know, it wasn't an ideal situation. And also

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Cocaine's a hell of a drug, no doubt. And I'm

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure he was rocking. No Pun intended that stuff.

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Pun totally intended after the fact, till till he passed. Um,

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't recall why how he passed. It

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>was a heart attack and fluid in his lungs, according

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.239
<v Speaker 1>to the Internet, which could be the kind of thing

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>that would be, you know, a byproduct of drug abuse

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>for many, many years. I mean, he worked very hard

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>on stage two. I mean, I'm sure absolutely heart into everything.

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>He put his heart into everything, and he also gave

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>his heart quite the workout. Um. He he was into

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>like PCP and stuff. I mean, there's a video, there

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>was a whole thing. I don't know if you remember

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>where he like we went on a high speed police

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 1>chase after he like shot up his business office which

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>was in Augusta, and like you know, the police chased

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 1>him and shot his tires out and he just kept driving.

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh And he was apparently on PCP when that happened.

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so I got to cover his passing and

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>n p Are wanted quite a few pieces on that.

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>The guy's like a legend, you know, I mean his

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>civil rights activism and like I mean everything about this

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>man and his career aligned with all of that stuff.

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Best friends with like Reverel Sharpton, and like you know,

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>influence on Michael Jackson and and and Prince and you

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>know countless, Like I mean, there'd be you know, like

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>rolling stones, you know, if there wasn't for James Brown.

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>He was like not only was he the godfather of soul,

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>in many ways, he like in reinvented or maybe even

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of invented the what we know today as like

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll, you know, in a lot of ways. Um,

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>So I covered his funeral. Uh. And it was at

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>our local arena, which they had actually renamed not I

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>think it was before he passed, renamed the James Brown Arena.

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's the kind of you know, municipal, big old

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>indoor concrete, pretty hideous arena, but it was it needed

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to be held in an arena because it was James Brown,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and like thousands and thousands and thousands of people wanted

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>to be there. Uh. Um, Michael Jackson was there. He

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by all these like Nation of Islam dudes with

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>these like a little bow ties and it was the

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>weirdest thing. Um, Bootsy Collins was there, Mick Jagger was there,

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>like all of these luminaries were there, Al Sharpton, Dick

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Gregory did it, did a did a talk or a eulogy.

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>But Michael Jackson got up there and like seeing Michael

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Jackson walk into a room like that and talk. It

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was sort of like if you saw like Scooby Doo

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>walk into a room, you know, or like seriously, it

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>was just like Uncanny Valley. And I'm not speaking about

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>his uh his you know, plastic surgery. It was just

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>he's so loomed so large that to see a person

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>like that you only know from pop culture and television

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.479
<v Speaker 1>stuff like as in the flesh. It was very surreal. Um.

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And James Brown's body was laid out in this casket

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>was open, open casket, um. And that's the only time

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I ever saw James Brown. It was was in his casket. Man.

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I uh, I mean the the notion of haunting a theater,

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>uh is if I were a ghost, I would absolutely

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>haunt a theater. Um, and I would be a very

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>critical ghost. I feel too. I would kind of boo,

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything that was going on. Oh yeah, the

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>very leash just made the lights flicker, you know in

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Morris code saying this sucks. Um, I was trippy though, man,

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, I I grew up surrounded by this

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>dude everything, like in my town, like the bar, Soul Bar,

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>That's where I got cut my teeth, playing gigs and

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>playing and like you know, indie indie rock bands. Uh.

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Never saw him in person adjacent to this event with

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>his microphone stand. Never actually saw him. Everybody I knew saw.

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I only finally see him laying dead in his gasket.

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>And it was actually an important moment for my career

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>because I you know, I'm a podcast producer and that

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>all came from my work with public radio. And if

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't for you know, the James Brown thing definitely

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>got me more uh gigs and more clout and the

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>fact that I had, you know, had pieces on NPR

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and they started using me more because they were aware

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>of me at that point. Um, I don't know, it's

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>all just very serendipitous and and and fascinating to me. Well,

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>at least you got to finally see him, you know,

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>at least it was an open casket. If it was

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a closed casket, then you know, you never would you

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>never would have seen him. He was very shiny. I

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>remember that. Then there was a whole thing where they

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't bury him for weeks. They had him like laying

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>in like cryostasis or something like that, because there was

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like the family was arguing, like I was talking about

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>earlier with like all you know, his affairs were not

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>in order as they say, and the family was like

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>arguing over whatever, like who owned what and I don't.

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, they didn't bury him for a really

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>long time. And remember that being the source of quite

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a few conspiracy theories. And if I'm not mistaken, there

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>was a documentary, Uh maybe it's not out yet, but

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>it was something to do with CNN, um about this

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>whole you know, uh controversy and like it did he

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>did they ever really bury him? Is he still like

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>laying out, you know, frozen in someone's basement even in death.

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>He's still the hardest working man in show biz exactly.

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So of that that whole experience, what did what would

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you say that you how are you changed after? What

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>did you learn? What did you take away? From it. Well,

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's weird. Like I'm one of the

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>only things I do for for work is a critical

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>thinking approach to conspiracy podcast. So I'm always you know,

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>up against the idea of our their ghosts is there

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and afterlife, you know, are their extraterrestrials or you know,

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>other extra um dimensional beings? Right, And I don't know,

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>like you can explain away what happened with that Mike stand.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>You can, you can totally dissect it down to um

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>it was this mike cord wrapped around the base of it.

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But I've never seen anything like that happen before. I'm

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>sure if you tried to do it times again, never

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>never make it, never make it happen. Um. So yeah,

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I definitely left me with a sense of wonderment about

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But also I think what I just said

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 1>it left me with a sense of like, Okay, I

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>think sometimes things happen for a reason, um, serendipitously or

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Like all of that stuff, and all of

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that experience working at Jay's, you know, being there for

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>all of that, having that experience leading to me kind

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>of coming full circle with me covering his funeral for

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>public radio all kind of lad to where I am today,

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's sort of made me open to experiences and all.

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>It's just being kind of like on the lookout for

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>not on the lookout because that's sort of like cheapens it,

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but just like being I think it's just as simple

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>as just being open to experiences and just letting things

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of wash over you and letting things happen and

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>not trying to always control everything or like could you know,

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, what what will

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>be will be and if you can just be ready

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to kind of bob and weave and you know, adapt,

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>chances are you can make a good go out of

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever happens to you. But um, I have found that

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been throughout my career and my life exposed to

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>these kind of awe ball situations that because I was

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 1>open to them, kind of led me to other interesting things.

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's that well, I love that. I think.

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I often, I often my brain immediately starts

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to want to, uh, pick things apart or figure them out,

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and then I have to go just just enjoy that

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>thing before you try, and you know, get down to

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the fundamentals of it and figure out how that magic

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>trick works. Can't we just enjoy the magic trick? Yeah?

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>And sure, I mean it's fun to figure out how

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>to do magic tricks yourself, you know, or like learn

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the secrets behind things. But also, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when I worked at the music store, it made me

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of like music stores less because I knew too

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>much about how everything went into it, and it wasn't fun.

0:34:57.719 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I wish I wish that happened to me because my

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>first job was an ice cream chop and it did

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>not have that effect. Well that's fair, I mean I

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>think I think you also didn't have to hang out

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>with a with a nightmare woman checking in, you know,

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>boxes of guitar cables for thirteen hours a day. What

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>if she was my boss too? Would be weird. That

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>would have been wild. Okay, count the chocolate chips in exactly.

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>She would have done it. She would have done it.

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>She They also like sent us, uh, they sent us

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>kids out for food they never cooked. So we always

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>just would like go and get her the same meal

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>every day from this deli called the Sunshine Bakery, every

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>single day. Um. And so I could tell a million

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>stories about Jay's in and of itself. But this is

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of the central one for me, this sort of

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>defining one. And like I said, now it's gone. Um.

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>The Masters that are the Ustin National is kind of

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>bulldozed or turned into Master's adjacent properties, everything that's around

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>there on Washington Road. You guys needed to do like

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 1>a concert to raise money to save Jay's. Nobody wanted

0:35:56.360 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 1>to save Jay's. They had a bad rep they were.

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>They were not the best folks um in terms of

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like just just trying to put one over on people

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time, like they would try to

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>sell you something for the you know what the list

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>price was, as opposed to it acting like they were

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>doing you a solid. Because this is also before the

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>days of like um musicians, friend and catalogs and boy,

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>when the Internet and those came along, they were not

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>happy because it took the power right out of their

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>hands and they had to like match prices and stuff.

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>And so I think they saw the end in sight,

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>at least as far as their business model was concerned.

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. So I've got another story from you from

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>our Live story Okay event that we did in New

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>York City, And this one's from Tamara Davis, who, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, was the hardest working person in Times Square. Alright,

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 1>So this story is kind of two birds one stone,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is not only the story of the worst

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>job I ever had. This is the story of when

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I got robbed in the middle of Times Square. And

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>if you guys know anything about Times Square, you know

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>how sometimes they have the cops with the bazookas and

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the A K forty seven. For whatever reason, on this

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>particular day, they were not there and they were completely ghosts.

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>So I was on my own. Uh. And this is

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>also technically my first job. I worked for a tourism

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>company in New York City, so you did like hop

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>hop on, hop off tours. Typical tourist trap were like

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the top of the bus was open and you could

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>gaze up at all the overpriced real estate and like

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>take pictures. So I didn't work on the street, you know,

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the ones that harassed tours like, oh, you want to

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>buy a ticket now. I worked inside the office where

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>if you bought a ticket online, you had to bring

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a voucher to the office so that we could exchange

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it for the real ticket. A really antiquated system, so

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:57.919
<v Speaker 1>antiquated that we actually didn't have registers, so we didn't

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>have changed. So if you didn't have card or exact change,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>we either sent you really sorry, or we ourselves had

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>to go out and find change. We had a location

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I know, we had a location in Port

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Authority bus terminal and it was just me and my

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>coworker there and I told her, you know what, you

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>stay here, I'll take this hundred dollar bill and I'll

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>go get a change. So I went to Dwayne Read.

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>It was right across the street from Port Authority. It's

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 1>still there. Fun that Dwayne Read. Anyway, I went to

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the I went to the the cashier and I said,

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>do you have changed for a hundred dollars? And at

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the counter was this guy who I actually subconsciously thought

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>was the manager because he was dressed very like professional,

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and he had like he had a lanyard with like

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>his idea on it. And so I said to the cashier,

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>do you have change? She didn't really say anything to me.

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>She just kind of looked at the guy. And the

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>guy was like, you need change, and I was like yeah,

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and so he's like okay, cool, and so he takes

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the hundred dollar bill and he starts walking and I

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>think he's walking behind the desk to the register to

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.879
<v Speaker 1>get changed, but like he keeps walking like towards the door,

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and so quickly. I'm like the fun So I go

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, my guy, where are you going? And

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:25.839
<v Speaker 1>he's like, what do you mean? I said my change?

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you didn't give me any money. I'm like, oh,

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.439
<v Speaker 1>hell no. So he walks out right and I'm like, dude,

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>my hundred dollar bill. Where you going my hundred dollar bear?

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I didn't take no hundred dollar bill from you.

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.720
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? And so I'm like, dude,

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>you have my money and I want it. And so

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>he's not really having that. He walks out into traffic,

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.919
<v Speaker 1>like trying to get away from me, like with full

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>on car. You guys have been in time square full

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>on cars coming. He does not care. He's willing to

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>die for this hundred dollar bill, and I was. I

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.320
<v Speaker 1>guess I was willing to die too, because I followed

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>him and he's walking into traffic and I'm like, dude,

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>there's this traffic cop right that we come. When we

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>get to the other side, there's this traffic cop there.

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this guy just stole a hundred dollars from me,

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 1>And the traffic cop is like, well, I can't really

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>leave my post, and he says to the guy, did

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>you take the hundred dollars? And then I was like,

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't take any money. You can search me and

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, I'm not touching you. That's number one.

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Number two, you definitely did, and I want my money

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 1>or I'm gonna call the cops on you. Bottom line.

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>He's like, okay, call the cops. And I guess he

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>thought I was bluffing, but I called his bluff and

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I pull up my phone and I start calling the cops.

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>So he's like naturally, he's like oh shit, so he

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>starts running away. The traffic cop already told me he

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>can't really do anything. He has to stay where he is,

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>so I start chasing him. Mind you, at this point,

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>this isn't even my money. This is the company's money.

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm employee of the month after this for the worst

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>job of my life. It's the company's money. But like,

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, the guy just took a hundred dollars from me. Also,

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 1>technically it's my money because at this job, if you

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>are short money, they make you pay it back, and

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I really was just not doing that. So I was like, Okay,

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I need to get this hundred dollars back. So I'm

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.839
<v Speaker 1>on the phone with nine one saying that this guy

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>just I'm in the middle of Type Square and this

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 1>guy just stole a hundred dollars from me, and I'm

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like following him, and he's like trying to get away

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>from me, and so the cop the people on the

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>phone are completely incompetent. They're like, wait, where are you

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>what street? Wait? But where are you in front of?

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh my goodness. NYPD is so useless.

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 1>And so he stops at this random like smoke shop

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and he goes inside, and I'm like okay, and then

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>he's telling me come inside the smoke shop, and I'm like, no,

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>why would I do that. I'm gonna stay here on

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the phone with nine one and I'm going to tell

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>them to come to the smoke shop. So I guess

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>he realizes that I'm really not gonna come into the

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>smoke shop for whatever he's trying to pull, so he

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>runs out the store. He punches me in the face,

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and he takes off. He bolts, he takes off running,

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, hell no, So I take off running.

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I take off running after him, right, I'm employee of

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the month. Oh my goodness, I take off running after him.

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>And I was, oh, I was about to uh if

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I got my hands on him, I was about I

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>was prepared to fight. So he's running. He runs it

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to the subway right, hops the turnstyle, gets on the

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>train that happens to be there. Fuck the m t

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>A happens to be there, trains during during doors closed.

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 1>He's gone. Five minutes later, the cops show up at

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the train station and they're like, where's the guy? And

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, first of all, where were you? Second of all,

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>he's gone. He hopped on the train. And they were like, oh, yeah, sorry, Uh,

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know to tell you. I guess he's gone.

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like what. And so I'm like, we can

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>go to the Dwayne Reid and get the security footage

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and see, like who the guy is. And so we

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 1>go to the Dwayne read and the manager doesn't really

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>want to give us the security footage because she doesn't

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.280
<v Speaker 1>really want to be liable for what happened in the store,

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and so she's like oh, I don't really want to.

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, you really need to give a

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>security footage. The cops aren't really having it, and then

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>they get the security footage in there, like okay. My

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>manager for my job comes to the Dwayne Read because

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously I've been going for like an hour at this point,

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like, what the fund is? Where are you? And

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I'm in Dwayne Read because I got

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 1>robbed and like we need the security footage of the guy.

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.840
<v Speaker 1>And he's like huh. So he comes to the Duyne

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Read and he's like, so what's going on. I'm like, yeah,

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I have to follow the police report and then if

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>they confined him, then it is what it is. And

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he looks at me dead pan and he goes, you

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>know that's a shortage, right, A shortage meaning I have

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to pay the one hundred dollars And I said, go

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>fuck yourself, that's a shortage and he was like, yeah,

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you it's a shortage. I said, I'm not paying that

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and he's like okay, we'll see. So he sends it

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 1>up the chain with the with the story and everything,

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 1>and I guess the higher ups get back and they're

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, she has to pay a hundred dollars for

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the shortage because she got robbed. And I was like, well,

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm really not paying that. That's not fair. And my

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>manager goes, well, whether you like it or not, you

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>have to pay it. And I'm like, well, whether you

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 1>like it or not, I quit and he was like huh.

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.720
<v Speaker 1>He was like huh. I was like, I spoke English.

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Whether you like it or not, I quit and he's

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>like no, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, because this job

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 1>has very high turnover. At that point, I've been there

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>four years. I don't know how I did. I must

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>be a master kiss At that point, I've been there

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>four years. It's still my longest job ever. And he's like, oh, no, no, no,

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you you don't have to quit. We'll ask about it.

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 1>A week goes by, they're trying to negotiate, like, oh,

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have to pay it, but the higher ups

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>are like, no, we want our hundred dollars. And I'm like, well,

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you just lost your best employee for a hundred dollars.

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 1>So I quit the job, needless to say, um And

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 1>the day that I quit, I walked out. I went

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 1>back to Port Authority, where one of my other coworkers

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and one of my best friends was working and then

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I show up and she's like, what are you doing here?

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I quit, so I'm here to

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>just hang out with you for the rest of your

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>shift and then we're gonna go get drinks and we're

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 1>going to celebrate because fuck this job. I'm not going

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to say the company, but they went out of business

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and they kind of deserved it. But that's my story. Wow. Yeah, seriously,

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh employee of the Year I think was was said

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>over there. Um, I wonder where that guy is today.

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's outside. Wow. I learned a lot from that story, mainly,

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Fuck Dwayne Reid, fuck the cops, fuck the m t A,

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 1>fuck that company, and funk that guy. That guy needs

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to pay for what he did. There's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>a way we can, you know, bring him to justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's listening right now, Hey, guy who stole a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars and punched Tamara in the face. I here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I want you to do. If you're listening, guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to go follow us on Instagram right

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<v Speaker 1>now and turn yourself in via the d m S.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's gonna work. Um, what about

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<v Speaker 1>all you like true crime armchair detectives out there? Can't

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<v Speaker 1>you help track this scumbag down? Oh my god, did

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<v Speaker 1>we just start a fable baby crime fighting division? Am

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<v Speaker 1>I the Batman of podcasts? Now pod Man? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>it the bad Cast? Hey? Seth Rogan, guess what you

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<v Speaker 1>can have storytime because we're changing the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast again to hashtag vengeance Time. Yeah, I've listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the ship out of that podcast. Hey, thanks for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the ship out of this podcast. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>give another huge shout out and thanks to Noel Brown

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<v Speaker 1>for being on the podcast and sharing a story. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>you can find all the links to the stuff he

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<v Speaker 1>has going on in the description and if you're enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, please leave us a review. It helps us

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<v Speaker 1>the Pointer Brothers. Here's a sneaky little peeky So we

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<v Speaker 1>show up to this house and we there's a like

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<v Speaker 1>a garage door. Right, We opened the garage door and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see more than like a foot and a

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<v Speaker 1>half in front of you, and you're immediately smacked in

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<v Speaker 1>the face with this smell that I can't even describe.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know if it's old food,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's molly something, if it's like a dead animal

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<v Speaker 1>like you. I have probably no idea what this smell was,

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<v Speaker 1>and neither one of us. We had no idea. We're

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<v Speaker 1>getting too and this was just a garage door hashtag.

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