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Speaker 1: Bill Jones. Any questions there, But let's start things up
Speaker 1: with the news of the day, and Mike McCarthy talked
Speaker 1: about it in his press conference this morning. Layton vander
Speaker 1: esh a full go today. What's up with that? Mickey?
Speaker 1: That isn't really encouraging because you know, normally when you
Speaker 1: have a broken bone like that, you're out of full
Speaker 1: six weeks before you start doing anything. So the fact
Speaker 1: that they feel like he can be a full go.
Speaker 1: In practice last week he was very limited. It was
Speaker 1: basically individual drills, you know, skeleton drills. But when they
Speaker 1: kind of got the pads on and started doing stuff,
Speaker 1: he was out on that, but it sounded like he
Speaker 1: was going to take part in that. So it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting see how much he does tomorrow, which would be
Speaker 1: a normal Thursday practice when they actually put the pads
Speaker 1: on and they do have a little bit of contact,
Speaker 1: to see how much he's able to do that. But if,
Speaker 1: if you know, it all goes well and they think
Speaker 1: he can play boy, that's good to have your middle
Speaker 1: linebacker back in there and you kind of get everybody
Speaker 1: doing what you assume they would be doing at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season before he suffered the fractured collar bone.
Speaker 1: It was the first game of the season, right, so yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's a good sign. I understand that Sean Lee
Speaker 1: and Chitubeo Woozier were still with the trainers doing rehab,
Speaker 1: and Everson Griffin was not at the open portion of practice,
Speaker 1: So we'll see what's going on there. Because from what
Speaker 1: I went back and looked, it looked like he finished
Speaker 1: the game. So I don't know if something else came
Speaker 1: up or not, but boy, it sure looked good, you
Speaker 1: guys when they put that dreamline together, and they basically
Speaker 1: did it almost the entire second half when they were
Speaker 1: in Nickel with DeMarcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford, Alden Smith and
Speaker 1: then Everson Griffin. Those four guys on the field, there's
Speaker 1: no sense putting if you're in nickel. To me, there's
Speaker 1: no sense putting those big old defensive tackles out there
Speaker 1: because they ain't doing nothing. You know, they're just kind
Speaker 1: of taken up space. But you don't want taking up
Speaker 1: space in Nickel. You want to get to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and they weren't really doing a very good job of
Speaker 1: doing that. Although I did notice, you guys, when I
Speaker 1: went back and looked the game, Neville Gallimore was had
Speaker 1: more mobility. He made a tackle. He was on the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, the ball bounced outside and he ran
Speaker 1: down on the line, maybe about four yards deep into
Speaker 1: the Cowboys territory and made the tackle. I didn't see
Speaker 1: any of that from Don Terry Poe. They need to
Speaker 1: play that kid more. Yeah, I'm sure Bill won't argue
Speaker 1: with that, will you, Bill? Oh? You kid right there
Speaker 1: we're talking about and you talked about him last week
Speaker 1: at least earlier this week. I'm really loving that kid.
Speaker 1: I like his energy, I like his size. You know,
Speaker 1: o U and Big twelve weren't known from making a
Speaker 1: lot of plays defensively, but as an individual athlete, this
Speaker 1: guy's amazing to going to Leyden. According to what you
Speaker 1: said last week, spats uh Leyden is Uh. Well, it was.
Speaker 1: They had to snatch him out of practice last week
Speaker 1: because he was so popped up and trying to get
Speaker 1: get going. So just hoping that he'll be okay. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And and and that puts him in the middle, and
Speaker 1: then you have more I think flexibility with what you
Speaker 1: do defensively, because Joe Thomas, if you need a true
Speaker 1: strong side linebacker, he can do that. I just don't
Speaker 1: know that he's hit his best spot is in the middle.
Speaker 1: I think his best spot is the linebackers on the edge,
Speaker 1: either weak or strong. And so we'll see where they
Speaker 1: go with that. And remember they kind of used that
Speaker 1: Francis Bernard in a few plays or is it Bernard
Speaker 1: fancies I can't get his name straight, Sorry about that,
Speaker 1: but anyway, they kind of worked him into some of
Speaker 1: the linebacking stuff. So we'll see where this goes. But
Speaker 1: it'd be good to have the guy that we saw
Speaker 1: in training camp that was basically running the show. He
Speaker 1: was setting people up. He seemed to have a really
Speaker 1: good grasp of what was going on, So that would
Speaker 1: be a welcome sight on that defense. So if if
Speaker 1: he comes back, if Leyden comes back, then Jalen goes
Speaker 1: to the week side. Correct, Well, he stayed on the
Speaker 1: week side. Joe was playing on the middle. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: now he won't have to worry about bringing in the
Speaker 1: call from the sideline. The communication system will go into
Speaker 1: Layton's helmet at middle linebacker. Well, let me ask let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Mickey, because Mike Nolan, it kind
Speaker 1: of it's more of a we talk about more about
Speaker 1: like a hybrid type defense. Could they go more to
Speaker 1: a four three base defense with Layton vander eshback in
Speaker 1: the middle and then Jay len At at the will
Speaker 1: and then and working better that way because that five
Speaker 1: man front was working. In fact, this past week Aldon Smith.
Speaker 1: The previous week he was playing on the outside in
Speaker 1: that five man front. This week they moved him into
Speaker 1: a five technique when they went to a five man front,
Speaker 1: which which helped because the week before you had three
Speaker 1: big guys there in the middle, and obviously it just
Speaker 1: wasn't working as against the run game that Cleveland presented. Yeah,
Speaker 1: building the thing guy noticed going back and watching the
Speaker 1: game is they started off trying to play the three
Speaker 1: four front. It just wasn't working U. And by time
Speaker 1: the second half started, I didn't see hardly any three
Speaker 1: four fronts. It was basically a four man front. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then maybe they would if they wanted to go heavy.
Speaker 1: They stood up one of the defensive ends as a
Speaker 1: as a linebacker. I think that works so much better
Speaker 1: than than trying to play that through. The guys aren't
Speaker 1: the right side. I mean they're they're heavy enough, but
Speaker 1: they're not They don't have the length to play that
Speaker 1: position as three four defensive ends. So I think I
Speaker 1: think it's more a mentalities fags. I think it's more
Speaker 1: of a mental thing, uh than it is physical. They're
Speaker 1: just not accustomed to the technique itself. When you've been
Speaker 1: taught to have that track stance going get to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: When you set the edge, it's really going to be tight.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a floating edge. That's the
Speaker 1: way a defensive end is taught. He's taught to blow
Speaker 1: it up. When you start telling me that I have
Speaker 1: to make sure no one gets outside of me and
Speaker 1: I can't be aggressive, I can't go forward, then that
Speaker 1: just kind of messes them up and instead of them react,
Speaker 1: instead of them acting, they're reacting, and that once you
Speaker 1: start to react, then you hesitate. That hesitation gets you outflanked,
Speaker 1: and then we have what we have with running backs
Speaker 1: going down the field on the outside. I just felt
Speaker 1: like watching those first several games that that defense was
Speaker 1: playing catch more so than attacking, and they weren't very
Speaker 1: good at playing catch, by the way, and by the way,
Speaker 1: to start off the Giants game in that three to
Speaker 1: four defense, the personnel that the Cowboys had to start
Speaker 1: the game at the defensive ends, the Marcus Lawrence lined
Speaker 1: up at right as a right outsideebacker in a three four.
Speaker 1: Dorian's Armstrong was the left outside linebacker in a three four,
Speaker 1: and then in the three inside guys you had Alden Smith,
Speaker 1: Don Terry Poe and Tristan Hill. Where your three down lineman.
Speaker 1: The two five techniques were Alden Smith and Tristan Hill
Speaker 1: with Don Terry Poe on the nose. And that's the
Speaker 1: way they started that game in that three four. And
Speaker 1: now you don't have the worst and now you don't
Speaker 1: have Tristan Hill. So that's right. How did the Giant
Speaker 1: start off personnel wise? Guy? They were there in on offense,
Speaker 1: they were in twelve personnel, and so that's why the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are in their base, which was a three four.
Speaker 1: So we see the first couple of plays they had
Speaker 1: two tight ends and then they went with their nickel
Speaker 1: package and that's when obviously the Cowboys are in a
Speaker 1: four man front at that point. But I just vander
Speaker 1: the return of Vanderas and we'll see where he is
Speaker 1: if he'll be able to play on Monday night or not.
Speaker 1: But it will add so much to this defense, I think.
Speaker 1: To heaving back, of course, the biggest thing is they
Speaker 1: got the knowing leading back, but they eating back for
Speaker 1: the long term too, you know. And the other thing
Speaker 1: they did and they lapsed into it, and I think
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan pointed it out. You know, they started is
Speaker 1: not in the second half. At some point they started
Speaker 1: implementing a dime defense. And so what they were doing
Speaker 1: is they were taking one of the safeties bringing them
Speaker 1: up front, and then Jalen and one of the safeties
Speaker 1: were kind of in the gaps on the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: so you didn't know if they were dropping into coverage
Speaker 1: or if they were coming as a pass rusher. And
Speaker 1: and I guess in the back they were probably playing
Speaker 1: a little bit of zone, but they were using six
Speaker 1: dbs back there at times. And so I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know if you employ that to try to confuse
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. All I know is you're going to
Speaker 1: have another second year quarterback this year, just like Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones was last week. Yeah, but he won't be just
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones. No, he will not different kid. Tell
Speaker 1: the different kid back there. I think the only advantage
Speaker 1: we may have, and I'm sure everyone thinks that every
Speaker 1: week is just the size of factor Hopefully we can
Speaker 1: surround him enough to where we can make that throw
Speaker 1: out of the pocket, like throwing out of a well.
Speaker 1: He had a couple. He had an interception last week
Speaker 1: that was batted down at the line of scrimmage or
Speaker 1: batted up into there and it was intercepted by d Lineman, linebacker.
Speaker 1: So you know, we could look for that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's keep him in the pocket, look for that. But
Speaker 1: that's easier said than done because people have been trying
Speaker 1: to do it all his career and they hadn't worked
Speaker 1: out yet. You know, he's he's already rushed for two
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety six yards, so in the NFL he
Speaker 1: ranked sixteenth, but he's got more yards rushing than any
Speaker 1: other quarterback in the league, and that includes Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: who's the next guy. He's got fifty eight yards more
Speaker 1: than Jackson does rushing and he's ran for five touchdowns.
Speaker 1: So you know, we talk about his ability in the pocket,
Speaker 1: and but boy, he can get out and that will
Speaker 1: cause you a problem. Tyrone Crawford was talking about it yesterday,
Speaker 1: how this the the pass rush. You have to be
Speaker 1: uh consistent, You have to stay in your lanes. You
Speaker 1: can't collapse because if he bounces outside, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: problems because linebackers can't run with them. And I guarantee
Speaker 1: you there's some safeties that can't run with him either,
Speaker 1: you know. And the other thing is he leads the
Speaker 1: league in yards per carry amongst everybody. You get seven
Speaker 1: point two yards per carry and on forty one carries
Speaker 1: so far this season. So if he's a rambles, these
Speaker 1: are designed resign runs. Yeah right, yeah, And we got
Speaker 1: by the way, I was telling Bill ever since we
Speaker 1: were talking about Murray playing at AT and T Stadium,
Speaker 1: and I saw that the vice president of media relations
Speaker 1: sent out this little note on his record at AT
Speaker 1: and T Stadium. He's six and old, five and old
Speaker 1: all time at Allen High School, three and three of
Speaker 1: those were winning state titles, and then in his college
Speaker 1: one time in college at Oklahoma, want to know, winning
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve championships. So he's not lost a game
Speaker 1: at AT and T Stadium. I was at two of
Speaker 1: those games, by the way, so I can I can
Speaker 1: confess and I can tell you just exactly how those
Speaker 1: games win. He's an amazing player. I told you guys yesterday,
Speaker 1: I pulled against him every time I saw him play,
Speaker 1: and he made the believer out of me. By the
Speaker 1: time he got to Oklahoma. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: heck went on at A and M, but they had
Speaker 1: no idea what they had. I know they had a
Speaker 1: lot of chaos going there at that time. But the
Speaker 1: best thing that could have happened to Oklahoma was the
Speaker 1: chaos at A and M, and boy, he did everything
Speaker 1: he could to make those soon as winners. Try. In fact,
Speaker 1: the thing about it is Kyle Allen was at A
Speaker 1: and M when Kyler Murray was at an N and
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen, who's of course now with the Washington football team,
Speaker 1: started last week and the Cowboys will be playing Washington
Speaker 1: next week. We'll see if Kyle Allen, of where he
Speaker 1: is health wise, whether he's he'd be playing. But Kyler
Speaker 1: and Kyle Allen were came in together and they couldn't
Speaker 1: make a decision on which guy they were going to
Speaker 1: use at A and M, and both of them wound
Speaker 1: up transferring out. Kyler went to OU and Kyle Allen
Speaker 1: went to Houston, and they had a third core the back.
Speaker 1: I believe it was Hill right well, Kenny Hill was
Speaker 1: there and he ended up at TCU from the TCU
Speaker 1: and he played well at TCU, and he was he
Speaker 1: was before Murray and Allen, he was prior to them.
Speaker 1: What are you trying to remember? I remember his first game.
Speaker 1: I remember his first game. I think it was against
Speaker 1: South Carolina and they were getting right. He lights out
Speaker 1: and fifty yards passing or something crazy. What are you
Speaker 1: trying to say about A and M. Well, they screwed
Speaker 1: it up. They screwed up three times. They screwed up well.
Speaker 1: And here's the deal. And not to get on college
Speaker 1: talked so much, but since we're talking, Kyler Murray and M.
Speaker 1: A and M had the greatest opportunity in the world
Speaker 1: after Johnny Manziel was there because they were on the map.
Speaker 1: They had just moved to the SEC. Manziel wins the
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy and they blew it as far as their
Speaker 1: quarterback situation is concerned. And oh he was in the
Speaker 1: same position here in the last few years when they
Speaker 1: took on Baker Mayfield. He wins the Heisman and they
Speaker 1: get Kyler Murray whatever, and they were able to make
Speaker 1: it to the college football playoffs. And so Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: has had it, has taken advantage of that because as
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's in the college football, the NFL,
Speaker 1: or whatever, especially in college football as far as recruiting goes.
Speaker 1: You know, when you those kids, they don't remember what
Speaker 1: happened in two thousand, two thousand and five. They remember
Speaker 1: what happened in two thousand and fifteen, okay, or the
Speaker 1: ones coming out this year, they remember what happened in
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, and so you better take advantage of that.
Speaker 1: And A and M did not take advantage of it
Speaker 1: because they had some disarray and weren't making the right
Speaker 1: decisions on their coaching staff. There was indecision there. Ye,
Speaker 1: all right, So it's almost break time, Nicky, you had something.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to DeAndre Hopkins. How about that. Let's talk
Speaker 1: Hopkins when we come back here on mix shots in
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Speaker 1: That was the big move that the Cardinals made in
Speaker 1: the off season. And Bill O'Brien no longer has a
Speaker 1: job in the in Houston after making that move in
Speaker 1: the off season. It seems to be wor working out
Speaker 1: well vode for Cliff Gingsbury in Arizona. So somebody in
Speaker 1: Houston must have looked at the league stats and saw
Speaker 1: that dean DeAndre Hopkins was leading the league with forty
Speaker 1: five catches already after just five games, and leading the
Speaker 1: league with five hundred and twenty eight receiving yards. And
Speaker 1: what caught my eye seeing that when it came to
Speaker 1: catches number two, it was a Marii Cooper with thirty nine,
Speaker 1: and Cedee Lamb, by the way, is the leading rookie.
Speaker 1: He's twelfth in the league with twenty nine catches. And
Speaker 1: the next rookie was some guy named Chenault. Love this
Speaker 1: guy this guy, Yeah, Jacksonville and uh. And then when
Speaker 1: it came to receiving yards, Lamb is fifth with four
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three. But Hopkins is a load, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure Everson Walls has kind of kept an eye
Speaker 1: on him. He looks like he's awfully tough to cover
Speaker 1: in man. Hell yeah, that's why he's got paid the
Speaker 1: big bucks. I don't know what O'Brien was thinking. I
Speaker 1: thought he I think one of his his this is
Speaker 1: from a black twitter, black twitter, said he was twitter
Speaker 1: black Twitter. Yeah, I heard black twitters out there, black Twitter.
Speaker 1: You know that. That's when you get all the street logic,
Speaker 1: you know, they said, Okay, the word from the streets
Speaker 1: is O'Brien didn't like the fact that d Hop had
Speaker 1: too many baby mamas, so that's why he got rid
Speaker 1: of them. He thought that was a bad influence on
Speaker 1: the team. I don't know what the heck he was thinking,
Speaker 1: because right now, sure he's paying a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: child support with that new contract you got well and
Speaker 1: and along the lines of that new contract, you know
Speaker 1: there can I'm sure that in Houston, the owner might
Speaker 1: have had something to do with him not being there
Speaker 1: and if he was deciding he didn't want to pay
Speaker 1: that kind of money to a wide receiver, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but that may have been what led to him the
Speaker 1: trade as much as anything. I'm not sure that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys that was the off the street theory. By the way,
Speaker 1: they didn't want to pay that money. Where you look
Speaker 1: at it, the Cowboys don't pay their quarterback Houston, does
Speaker 1: we pay our wide receivers? That getting off he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to pay his wide receiver. Now you've got the
Speaker 1: quarterback making all that money with no targets. So how
Speaker 1: is that working out for Houston? That's not working out
Speaker 1: very well right now. That sounds like Jerry's logic about,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to hold hold the cost down on
Speaker 1: the quarterback so he can put guys around him. We'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see. But for the Cowboys this week, they're more
Speaker 1: concerned about the Arizona Cardinal version of the Andre Hopkins
Speaker 1: and just adding I think the biggest step that Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray is making from year one to year two. They
Speaker 1: went five and eleven last year. They've already got three
Speaker 1: wins this year in the first five games. I would
Speaker 1: think that d hop is the reason that Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: has made the big step that he has made his
Speaker 1: second year in the league. Well, yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: still got Larry Fitzgerald to worry about, and Andy Isabella
Speaker 1: has been a really good pick. Christ Kirk and Kirk,
Speaker 1: you're you're exactly right. So yeah, they've done a nice
Speaker 1: job surrounding him with some receiving options. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: they saw what the Cowboys were doing with their receivers
Speaker 1: and said, huh, maybe we need to add something here.
Speaker 1: So uh, yeah, they've got a nice deal going. Offensively,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna be I think. I think Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray he's gonna be surrounded a lot this year, but
Speaker 1: not with good wide receiver. He's gonna be surrounded by
Speaker 1: a lot of defensive alignment because right now, I don't
Speaker 1: think his old line is playing very well at all.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaking these down the tight end, at least,
Speaker 1: they're not playing well at the tight end position and
Speaker 1: it's really leading leaving him with a few options. That's
Speaker 1: why Hopkins had so many catches. Fitzgerald, of course, is
Speaker 1: gonna play well into that, but they're weak on the
Speaker 1: tight end spot. They're trying to get zach Ertz. If
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken or at least considering bringing in another
Speaker 1: tight end, their running game is bad, Dad bad. I
Speaker 1: think that it's gonna be them understanding. They're gonna come
Speaker 1: out and try and get the two tight end running
Speaker 1: game on us, but it's not gonna do well because
Speaker 1: they just really don't have enough tight ends. The lineman
Speaker 1: don't block well, and they're gonna scrap that running game
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go straight to the passing game. They're
Speaker 1: gonna go straight to Kylin Murray and usually what happens
Speaker 1: is they just tell him, just go out there and
Speaker 1: make a play when you can, regardless of what we call.
Speaker 1: If you can make a play on your own, you
Speaker 1: do that. And he's been doing that a whole They're
Speaker 1: two tight ends are Darryl Daniels and Dan Arnold. And
Speaker 1: but if you look at Larry Fitzgerald's yards per catch,
Speaker 1: it looks like they're using him a lot like a
Speaker 1: tight end. I mean, he's got he's got six point
Speaker 1: eight yards per catch six point eight, so he's running
Speaker 1: a lot of their ridden target. For the most part,
Speaker 1: he's their red zone target when they do get there,
Speaker 1: he is their tight end. You're right, Bill, And they've
Speaker 1: been strong in the red zone. They're in the top
Speaker 1: five in the league, and both red zone offense and
Speaker 1: red zone defense. So that's sense a lot for where
Speaker 1: they are right now. All right, Mickey, I want to
Speaker 1: ask you, and I'm seeing on Twitter about how Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory is looking at practice. I think Zeke was asked
Speaker 1: about him. I'm seeing a tweet go by about that. Now,
Speaker 1: Gregory would not be eligible until next week against Washington,
Speaker 1: right right exactly, so he he had a two week
Speaker 1: window to start practicing with the team. He didn't do
Speaker 1: much last week my understanding, other than individual drills, skeleton drills,
Speaker 1: things like that. So it was gonna be interesting to
Speaker 1: see if they integrated into more into the team portion
Speaker 1: of practice this week and then he'd be eligible to
Speaker 1: play next week, so we'll see what they can, you know,
Speaker 1: get out of him. Another pass rusher, and again he's
Speaker 1: another guy in that same boat as Alden Smith, where
Speaker 1: he hadn't played in a while. The last game he
Speaker 1: played was the playoff game, the second round playoff game
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen or the the only I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember which it was, but that was the last game
Speaker 1: he played. So it had been January of twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: so it's been a while since he's played a game.
Speaker 1: But maybe you can get some designated pass rusher out
Speaker 1: of the guy. You know, he's he's probably a little
Speaker 1: heavier than he was when we last saw him play,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't heavy enough then, so maybe he's got
Speaker 1: it just about right. And then you just got to
Speaker 1: see what is conditioning is. You can do all that
Speaker 1: rehab work right, but you ain't pushing against the three
Speaker 1: hundred pound defensive offensive tackle. So we'll see just what
Speaker 1: they can get out of him. But that won't start
Speaker 1: till next week. And the good thing for him is
Speaker 1: what does he get back for a game? Is it
Speaker 1: one game or two? And then the buy comes up
Speaker 1: right and and so he's gonna be sore whenever he
Speaker 1: gets out there after that first time around. Would you
Speaker 1: like a scouting report on him? Ezekiel Elliott was asked
Speaker 1: about him, and he said Gregory was lights out in
Speaker 1: practice today. It was really tough to block him. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to get Randy back. He's got those fresh legs
Speaker 1: and he looks better than I've ever seen. Right, fresh
Speaker 1: legs don't last long, Bill, Let's just remember that fresh
Speaker 1: for long almost as bad as fresh fish. Okay, it
Speaker 1: just doesn't last long. You're gonna have to ice him
Speaker 1: down all you can. He's gonna see plenty of ice
Speaker 1: before it all said and done. I look forward to
Speaker 1: him coming back. I hope he does well all right,
Speaker 1: and uh, Dak Prescott back in the building today, Mickey, Yes,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy talked about how he adds a little bit
Speaker 1: of electricity when he's in there, and it sounded like
Speaker 1: all the guys were really glad to see him. So
Speaker 1: it was the first time back in after the surgery.
Speaker 1: You know, his Instagram posts today was pretty encouraging talking
Speaker 1: about how he was feeling well. He thanked everybody that
Speaker 1: sent him a well wishes. Uh, it was it was
Speaker 1: so Dak right that. Yeah, it kind of I think
Speaker 1: Rob probably put his teammates at ease too, sitting there
Speaker 1: worrying about him, and so he seemed to be in
Speaker 1: a pretty good nature and I'm sure that was good
Speaker 1: for the team to see. And you know, just to
Speaker 1: have him around because you know he's gonna be there, right,
Speaker 1: you know, when he starts his rehab, which I would
Speaker 1: imagine a couple of weeks away, but again, just his
Speaker 1: knowledge to be there and help out encourage because I
Speaker 1: guarantee you and I had this somewhat confirmed by someone
Speaker 1: else in the in the organization that part of those
Speaker 1: tears when he left the field was he couldn't stand
Speaker 1: the fact that he was going to be away from
Speaker 1: his teammates, that he was kind of letting them down,
Speaker 1: that he wasn't gonna be there, and that's just the
Speaker 1: way he is. So yeah, I'm sure it was good
Speaker 1: to see him back out there at the start. And
Speaker 1: you had to you had to know that he knew
Speaker 1: his teammates leaned on him a lot doing this tough
Speaker 1: part of this, this scheduling, the tough part of the
Speaker 1: season that they're having. He probably felt that they could
Speaker 1: they could only win with him in then. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's where most quarterbacks take, most leaders think
Speaker 1: when they're playing involved. So it's just good to hear
Speaker 1: to see the video. I did see the videos very encouraging. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how he can have that's that kind of
Speaker 1: attitude when when after what we saw, you know, on TV,
Speaker 1: even when I saw him being rolled into the hospital,
Speaker 1: he's looking at the game, you know, and then espressing
Speaker 1: on his face was like he was just on the
Speaker 1: couch having a beard you know, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be okay. I'm more broken up than
Speaker 1: he was. So it's just good to see how how
Speaker 1: his spirits are were there. It's like you said, fact,
Speaker 1: what else would you expect from him? That's just the
Speaker 1: way he's always been. That's why he's you know, the
Speaker 1: kind of young man that he is. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the other things about that is, especially now
Speaker 1: with COVID, guys that go on injured Reserve. I mean
Speaker 1: even in a normal year here, guys that go on
Speaker 1: injured Reserve, they and they're not really a part of
Speaker 1: the team anymore. I mean they can't be a part
Speaker 1: of anything. And I think that they obviously they are
Speaker 1: going to make every effort. Obviously Deak is going to
Speaker 1: go ahead, even in with the COVID restrictions and be
Speaker 1: around the building and be supportive and do what he
Speaker 1: can to help his teammates out. They're going to make
Speaker 1: sure of that because he can influence things even when
Speaker 1: he's not playing. He has such that that positive, confident
Speaker 1: spirit about him that can that can help out. But
Speaker 1: that's one of the things when he's you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's like seeing his whole the season flashed before his
Speaker 1: eyes as he's been carted off the field, and you
Speaker 1: can imagine what kind of emotions that would have when
Speaker 1: you've invested so much is what he had into this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you go from being you know, the game is on
Speaker 1: the line, right, you're playing, You're you're involved, you know,
Speaker 1: you're doing what you were put on this earth to do,
Speaker 1: and all of it just comes to a halt, just
Speaker 1: boom like that. So here you are shocked from what
Speaker 1: you see, the injury to yourself and then the realization
Speaker 1: that hey, there's nothing more I can do for myself
Speaker 1: right now. Everything I'm in someone else's hands. And that's
Speaker 1: tough to feel that way. I missed only two games
Speaker 1: when I played in my career. Those two came when
Speaker 1: I was in New York, and man, you're right, being
Speaker 1: on the injury reserve, you're just an afterthought, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're even that, you know you can sit around
Speaker 1: and try and talk to the guys about what's going on,
Speaker 1: especially during the ball game, and it's you know, like, look,
Speaker 1: you're in the way, Man, I got things to do.
Speaker 1: So it's just the way it is. You want to
Speaker 1: try and be as you want to try and be
Speaker 1: there for your teammates, but when it's all said done,
Speaker 1: it's not much you can do for them. And that's
Speaker 1: extremely frustrating. Iron Man Everson Walls. Once you get them
Speaker 1: in the building, you can't get them out. Ask Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones until they start fratonizing with an Arizona Cardinal player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's your friend? And eyes? I gotta they put me
Speaker 1: down after that thing. The only time I saw the
Speaker 1: guys after they put me down with on special teams.
Speaker 1: I was a special team's juggernaut. I've been covering Roy
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Speaker 1: When was it? What was the first Cowboy game you
Speaker 1: ever went to? Nine person seventy two? Yes, playoff game
Speaker 1: Cowboys versus forty nine ers, And I wouldcall, uh, I
Speaker 1: believe the running back name was Vic number twenty two.
Speaker 1: I think he would he would turned the opening kickoff
Speaker 1: for a touchdown if I'm not mistaken, all right, And uh,
Speaker 1: but we came back and we won the game, and
Speaker 1: it was the like one of the first playoff games
Speaker 1: in Texas Stadium. That's right, it would have been. And uh,
Speaker 1: I was up there with the pigs, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: comparable to now that wasn't that high? Yeah, and comparable
Speaker 1: to now. But back then it was like wow, Well
Speaker 1: I had no TV, no big screen TV to look at.
Speaker 1: So Vic Washington, Vic Washington was the HT. When was
Speaker 1: your first did you go to the Cotton Bowl? I
Speaker 1: did go to a couple of games to the Cotton
Speaker 1: Bowl with my dad, and that's why I bring it up.
Speaker 1: He is. The first one I went to was in
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcon game. But the other one that I remember
Speaker 1: going to at the Cotton Bowl was a Monday night
Speaker 1: football game against the Cardinals, the Saint Louis Cardinals, and
Speaker 1: it was the first time the Cowboys were ever on
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. It was in nineteen seventy the Horrible Game,
Speaker 1: and it was the worst game in Cowboys history at
Speaker 1: that time. And Dandy Don Meredith was up in the
Speaker 1: broadcast booth because that was his first year, well I
Speaker 1: guess first year basically after retiring and and so you know,
Speaker 1: he was with Howard Cosell on the Monday Night Football
Speaker 1: broadcast booth. The Cowboys got beat by the Cardinals thirty
Speaker 1: eight to nothing. But what I remember more than anything, yeah, nothing,
Speaker 1: thirty eight to nothing. What I remember more than anything
Speaker 1: from that game though, was in the second half of
Speaker 1: the game, the Cowboys fans turned towards the Monday Night
Speaker 1: Football broadcast booth and serenaded the Boots saying we want Dandy,
Speaker 1: We want Dandy. And that's probably when Dandy first started
Speaker 1: singing turn out the Lights parties over and Meredith and
Speaker 1: Meredith with him, and Mereth was asked about that during
Speaker 1: the game and he goes, there's no way I'm going
Speaker 1: down there. He goes, I'm a lot safer where I'm at.
Speaker 1: And then the Cowboys didn't lose another game till they
Speaker 1: lost the Super Bowl that tried. They went all the
Speaker 1: way to the Super Bowl real off a seven straight
Speaker 1: wins something like that, and well, should have won that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That was the Jim O'Brien kicked to win
Speaker 1: it to fumble down on the goal line that Dave
Speaker 1: Manders recovered. But anyway, no, no, still about the what
Speaker 1: about the Mackie catch that should have been a real
Speaker 1: rule incomplete because two offensive players touched it. Yeah, no
Speaker 1: way that's supposed to happen, which makes the rule. Back then,
Speaker 1: my first NFL game was at Wrigley Field. It was
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Detroit Lions. So it had to
Speaker 1: have been nineteen twenty four. Now, now you could have
Speaker 1: guessed right, and it still would have been funny. Right,
Speaker 1: it would have been somewhere in the late sixties, because
Speaker 1: Dick Buckas was already playing for the Bears. Uh and
Speaker 1: George Clifton playing for the Lions and the middle linebacker
Speaker 1: for the Lions was was it Joe Schmidt the middle linebacker? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had we had seats. Basically, the seats were the
Speaker 1: first base box seats, so it was behind the goal
Speaker 1: posts back then at Wrigley Field. And the seats that
Speaker 1: they had there were basically the folding chairs from the
Speaker 1: Catholic war vets. You know, they were just flimsy folding chairs.
Speaker 1: There were no nets behind the goal posts back then,
Speaker 1: right you guys. So when it was time to kick something,
Speaker 1: everybody was standing on these rickety old chairs trying to
Speaker 1: get a football right, and you had grown people diving
Speaker 1: for balls over each other, knocking these chairs down. But
Speaker 1: the thing I remember most was I think Dick Buckkers
Speaker 1: with those shoulder padsy Hannah had to be the biggest
Speaker 1: human being I've ever seen in my life. And I
Speaker 1: was probably thirteen fourteen something like that, fifteen at the most.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Wrigley Field, where the end zone to the
Speaker 1: back wall was to the back left field wall and
Speaker 1: the other one bumped up against the box seats on
Speaker 1: the first base line. You know, Macky, you know why
Speaker 1: there were nets behind the goal post back then, because
Speaker 1: because the post post where on the line. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you didn't think the kick was gonna go at extra
Speaker 1: ten yards? They couldn't gain that far. I'm just embarrassed
Speaker 1: that I know who Joe Plumpton is. Did you read
Speaker 1: the book though? That's what I want to know, not
Speaker 1: the documentary. Yeah. So the other thing I think I
Speaker 1: will point out is the Cowboys have a couple. Once
Speaker 1: they put dak In Tristan Hill on injured reserve, they'll
Speaker 1: have like two to three open spots on the fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster. But again, as we talked about, they
Speaker 1: would probably be on you know, the Saturday elevating somebody
Speaker 1: from the practice squad. Uh, it could be a defensive
Speaker 1: tackle they liked that. Um, was it Hamilton? The defensive
Speaker 1: tackles Hamilton? Yeah, they put on on the practice squad.
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody like that. So we'll see where they go
Speaker 1: from there. But I had a question for Everson that
Speaker 1: I wanted to get in. Uh, in light of what
Speaker 1: we're seeing Michael Gallup do with these unbelievable catches along,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you cover somebody like that?
Speaker 1: Because he's covered right and he's going up not only
Speaker 1: making the catch, but keeping his feet in bounds. And
Speaker 1: he was asked yesterday, what are you thinking of when
Speaker 1: you go up and catch the ball like that and
Speaker 1: stay in bounds? And he said, well, the first thing
Speaker 1: is to catch it. The second thing is I've learned
Speaker 1: to let my feet go dead. So he could, I guess,
Speaker 1: come down close to the to the inbounds and tap
Speaker 1: his toes. But how do you I mean, as a dB,
Speaker 1: you're right there and the guy's catching the ball. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, once you get down the field, there
Speaker 1: is no dB or wide receiver. That's just the way
Speaker 1: you gotta think of it. To me, as far as
Speaker 1: I'm concerning that's my ball. I'm not playing defense on
Speaker 1: him at all. If anything, I'm worried about him playing
Speaker 1: defense on me. But I like what Gallup said about
Speaker 1: letting his feet go dead. In other words, all of
Speaker 1: his concentration goes to this, to his hands, and he
Speaker 1: just lets his by it go limp. So there's no tightness,
Speaker 1: there's no tension. You know. It's almost like they say
Speaker 1: when you get into an accident, if your body goes limp,
Speaker 1: then you know you're gonna come out better for it.
Speaker 1: That's just the athletic ability that he had. He is
Speaker 1: one of the most unusual athletic players I think I've
Speaker 1: ever seen, because if you look at him run the routes,
Speaker 1: you don't think it's anything amazing about how he runs it.
Speaker 1: But if you've been called I don't know if you guys,
Speaker 1: you remember the reception he made touchdown. I think he
Speaker 1: was coming across the field last year and he ended
Speaker 1: up on the other side of the sideline and he
Speaker 1: did some kind of I don't know what the hell
Speaker 1: move it was. It didn't like a pyrowet move. Was
Speaker 1: able to keep both feet inbounds. I think a player
Speaker 1: was at his feet and he still rolled over into
Speaker 1: the end zone. You know this guy, man, And that's
Speaker 1: why I said he's gonna have a breakout year. I've
Speaker 1: said it over and over again because what you see
Speaker 1: from him is very few every few targets, but he
Speaker 1: makes the most out of all of them, and when
Speaker 1: you look at the game, you can tell he and
Speaker 1: Cooper's body language was, man, I need I need more touches.
Speaker 1: I need more touches. And once they got it, both
Speaker 1: of them were extremely professional about it by coming through
Speaker 1: and when you see the throw by Dalton on the sidelines,
Speaker 1: that was amazing to make that catch, keep your feet
Speaker 1: and bounced by both on both sides as far as
Speaker 1: the quarterback as well. But once again, the way he
Speaker 1: held his hands being able to catch the ball like that,
Speaker 1: that is just extremely difficult. You guys should go out
Speaker 1: and try to do it. Sometimes lean back, there's letter
Speaker 1: throw at the back of your head and just see
Speaker 1: how much what you can do with that. You know,
Speaker 1: to turn your hands like that and catch it. That's
Speaker 1: something that he's just so good at and it's not
Speaker 1: in operation. That's what I like about it. He does
Speaker 1: things like this game in and game out. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be guy for a long time. All Right, we're back
Speaker 1: out of time. I do want to clarify and that
Speaker 1: was great insight, Everson. We'll get more of that tomorrow
Speaker 1: here on mix shots. I do want to clarify one
Speaker 1: thing before we live. You mentioned Hamilton, Mickey, the Hamilton
Speaker 1: You're there's a couple of Hamilton's on the practice squad,
Speaker 1: and the one you're referring to is the defensive tackle
Speaker 1: who is Justin Hamilt. Justin Hamilton, Yeah, not Ladarius Hamilton.
Speaker 1: Ladarius is out of North Texas. He's more of a
Speaker 1: defensive end type. But Justin Hamilton is a three hundred
Speaker 1: ten pounder, and so he would be a likely guy
Speaker 1: that they might call up on them. And and what
Speaker 1: do we say? Last week? They called up one from
Speaker 1: the practice squad last week, number forty Parker. We're going
Speaker 1: the next day. Who's this guy? Better study? Spags missed
Speaker 1: that you did not mention him, Spags will We'll leave
Speaker 1: on this positive note that the defense I've noticed has
Speaker 1: moved from h to twenty seven. Yeah, run defense went
Speaker 1: from thirty first to twenty seventh. So they're moving on up.
Speaker 1: We're moving up, baby, Yeah, moving on up? All right,
Speaker 1: that doesn't for mixed shots. And we will see you
Speaker 1: again tomorrow at one thirty as we will make our
Speaker 1: picks for the Monday night game against the Arizona Cardinals tomorrow.
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