WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Moving On Up 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:16.560 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:20.760 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:25.439 Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:35.080 and Nicky Spagnola. It is one thirty on a Thursday afternoon, 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.800 and Mickey Spagnola, you know what that time for Mick Shots. 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.880 It's time for Everson us sign on for mix shots. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:52.520 I'm here, don't anyone. He just got here. And that's 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.120 this is the way we like it. Everson shows up 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.000 on time every time. Right, we know when Everson shows up, 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.800 it's time to push the button to go. That's exactly 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.920 all right. When he signs on, when we see his 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.200 face on the screen right there, it's time to go. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.960 And here we are for another edition of Mick Shots, 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.800 streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We're on Periscope. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.399 I'm monitoring periscope and if you on periscope who have 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.640 a question or come in, I will pass that along 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.520 to Mickey and Everson on Twitter. I'm at CBS eleven 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.160 Bill Jones. Any questions there, But let's start things up 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.679 with the news of the day, and Mike McCarthy talked 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:36.760 about it in his press conference this morning. Layton vander 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.360 esh a full go today. What's up with that? Mickey? 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.080 That isn't really encouraging because you know, normally when you 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.160 have a broken bone like that, you're out of full 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.400 six weeks before you start doing anything. So the fact 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.720 that they feel like he can be a full go. 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.320 In practice last week he was very limited. It was 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:03.000 basically individual drills, you know, skeleton drills. But when they 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.720 kind of got the pads on and started doing stuff, 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.400 he was out on that, but it sounded like he 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.920 was going to take part in that. So it'll be 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.840 interesting see how much he does tomorrow, which would be 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.280 a normal Thursday practice when they actually put the pads 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.000 on and they do have a little bit of contact, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.680 to see how much he's able to do that. But if, 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.160 if you know, it all goes well and they think 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.080 he can play boy, that's good to have your middle 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.600 linebacker back in there and you kind of get everybody 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.240 doing what you assume they would be doing at the 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.800 beginning of the season before he suffered the fractured collar bone. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:44.239 It was the first game of the season, right, so yeah, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:48.280 that that's a good sign. I understand that Sean Lee 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.359 and Chitubeo Woozier were still with the trainers doing rehab, 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.959 and Everson Griffin was not at the open portion of practice, 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.200 So we'll see what's going on there. Because from what 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.360 I went back and looked, it looked like he finished 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.799 the game. So I don't know if something else came 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.440 up or not, but boy, it sure looked good, you 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:14.480 guys when they put that dreamline together, and they basically 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.960 did it almost the entire second half when they were 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:22.280 in Nickel with DeMarcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford, Alden Smith and 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.480 then Everson Griffin. Those four guys on the field, there's 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.440 no sense putting if you're in nickel. To me, there's 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.560 no sense putting those big old defensive tackles out there 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:36.080 because they ain't doing nothing. You know, they're just kind 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.960 of taken up space. But you don't want taking up 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.600 space in Nickel. You want to get to the quarterback, 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.800 and they weren't really doing a very good job of 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.000 doing that. Although I did notice, you guys, when I 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:52.760 went back and looked the game, Neville Gallimore was had 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.400 more mobility. He made a tackle. He was on the 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.720 line of scrimmage, the ball bounced outside and he ran 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.880 down on the line, maybe about four yards deep into 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.560 the Cowboys territory and made the tackle. I didn't see 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.040 any of that from Don Terry Poe. They need to 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:15.080 play that kid more. Yeah, I'm sure Bill won't argue 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:19.240 with that, will you, Bill? Oh? You kid right there 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.120 we're talking about and you talked about him last week 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.479 at least earlier this week. I'm really loving that kid. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.320 I like his energy, I like his size. You know, 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.760 o U and Big twelve weren't known from making a 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:36.040 lot of plays defensively, but as an individual athlete, this 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.680 guy's amazing to going to Leyden. According to what you 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:44.000 said last week, spats uh Leyden is Uh. Well, it was. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.479 They had to snatch him out of practice last week 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.480 because he was so popped up and trying to get 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:56.160 get going. So just hoping that he'll be okay. Yeah, absolutely, 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.000 And and and that puts him in the middle, and 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:03.000 then you have more I think flexibility with what you 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.680 do defensively, because Joe Thomas, if you need a true 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.880 strong side linebacker, he can do that. I just don't 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.839 know that he's hit his best spot is in the middle. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.719 I think his best spot is the linebackers on the edge, 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.359 either weak or strong. And so we'll see where they 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.800 go with that. And remember they kind of used that 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.200 Francis Bernard in a few plays or is it Bernard 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.039 fancies I can't get his name straight, Sorry about that, 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.440 but anyway, they kind of worked him into some of 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.520 the linebacking stuff. So we'll see where this goes. But 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.680 it'd be good to have the guy that we saw 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.000 in training camp that was basically running the show. He 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.800 was setting people up. He seemed to have a really 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.360 good grasp of what was going on, So that would 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.680 be a welcome sight on that defense. So if if 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.159 he comes back, if Leyden comes back, then Jalen goes 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.719 to the week side. Correct, Well, he stayed on the 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.599 week side. Joe was playing on the middle. Yeah, but 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.880 now he won't have to worry about bringing in the 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:11.440 call from the sideline. The communication system will go into 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.680 Layton's helmet at middle linebacker. Well, let me ask let 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.320 me ask you this, Mickey, because Mike Nolan, it kind 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.240 of it's more of a we talk about more about 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.280 like a hybrid type defense. Could they go more to 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.839 a four three base defense with Layton vander eshback in 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.400 the middle and then Jay len At at the will 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.479 and then and working better that way because that five 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:42.280 man front was working. In fact, this past week Aldon Smith. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.320 The previous week he was playing on the outside in 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.160 that five man front. This week they moved him into 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.559 a five technique when they went to a five man front, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.520 which which helped because the week before you had three 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.800 big guys there in the middle, and obviously it just 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.159 wasn't working as against the run game that Cleveland presented. Yeah, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.880 building the thing guy noticed going back and watching the 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.520 game is they started off trying to play the three 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.400 four front. It just wasn't working U. And by time 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.960 the second half started, I didn't see hardly any three 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.800 four fronts. It was basically a four man front. Uh. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.800 And then maybe they would if they wanted to go heavy. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.520 They stood up one of the defensive ends as a 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.119 as a linebacker. I think that works so much better 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:31.280 than than trying to play that through. The guys aren't 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.920 the right side. I mean they're they're heavy enough, but 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.480 they're not They don't have the length to play that 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:42.960 position as three four defensive ends. So I think I 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.000 think it's more a mentalities fags. I think it's more 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.559 of a mental thing, uh than it is physical. They're 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:54.960 just not accustomed to the technique itself. When you've been 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.840 taught to have that track stance going get to the quarterback. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.800 When you set the edge, it's really going to be tight. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.720 It's not going to be a floating edge. That's the 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.720 way a defensive end is taught. He's taught to blow 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.280 it up. When you start telling me that I have 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.600 to make sure no one gets outside of me and 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:18.080 I can't be aggressive, I can't go forward, then that 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.720 just kind of messes them up and instead of them react, 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:25.000 instead of them acting, they're reacting, and that once you 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.880 start to react, then you hesitate. That hesitation gets you outflanked, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.400 and then we have what we have with running backs 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.200 going down the field on the outside. I just felt 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.240 like watching those first several games that that defense was 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:43.800 playing catch more so than attacking, and they weren't very 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.400 good at playing catch, by the way, and by the way, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.400 to start off the Giants game in that three to 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.240 four defense, the personnel that the Cowboys had to start 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.840 the game at the defensive ends, the Marcus Lawrence lined 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:01.440 up at right as a right outsideebacker in a three four. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.480 Dorian's Armstrong was the left outside linebacker in a three four, 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.240 and then in the three inside guys you had Alden Smith, 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.840 Don Terry Poe and Tristan Hill. Where your three down lineman. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.480 The two five techniques were Alden Smith and Tristan Hill 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.000 with Don Terry Poe on the nose. And that's the 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.160 way they started that game in that three four. And 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.640 now you don't have the worst and now you don't 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:29.120 have Tristan Hill. So that's right. How did the Giant 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.800 start off personnel wise? Guy? They were there in on offense, 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.400 they were in twelve personnel, and so that's why the 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.440 Cowboys are in their base, which was a three four. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.440 So we see the first couple of plays they had 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.600 two tight ends and then they went with their nickel 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.720 package and that's when obviously the Cowboys are in a 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:53.320 four man front at that point. But I just vander 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.880 the return of Vanderas and we'll see where he is 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:57.800 if he'll be able to play on Monday night or not. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.160 But it will add so much to this defense, I think. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.440 To heaving back, of course, the biggest thing is they 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.720 got the knowing leading back, but they eating back for 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.959 the long term too, you know. And the other thing 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.480 they did and they lapsed into it, and I think 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.480 Mike Nolan pointed it out. You know, they started is 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.160 not in the second half. At some point they started 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.720 implementing a dime defense. And so what they were doing 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.679 is they were taking one of the safeties bringing them 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.640 up front, and then Jalen and one of the safeties 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.240 were kind of in the gaps on the line of scrimmage, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.000 so you didn't know if they were dropping into coverage 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.839 or if they were coming as a pass rusher. And 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.360 and I guess in the back they were probably playing 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.400 a little bit of zone, but they were using six 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:49.120 dbs back there at times. And so I don't I 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.880 don't know if you employ that to try to confuse 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.640 a young quarterback. All I know is you're going to 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.560 have another second year quarterback this year, just like Daniel 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.120 Jones was last week. Yeah, but he won't be just 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:09.600 like Daniel Jones. No, he will not different kid. Tell 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.720 the different kid back there. I think the only advantage 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.120 we may have, and I'm sure everyone thinks that every 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:19.240 week is just the size of factor Hopefully we can 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.480 surround him enough to where we can make that throw 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.000 out of the pocket, like throwing out of a well. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.360 He had a couple. He had an interception last week 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.800 that was batted down at the line of scrimmage or 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:35.320 batted up into there and it was intercepted by d Lineman, linebacker. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.720 So you know, we could look for that. I mean, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.719 that's keep him in the pocket, look for that. But 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.320 that's easier said than done because people have been trying 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.440 to do it all his career and they hadn't worked 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.760 out yet. You know, he's he's already rushed for two 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.960 hundred and ninety six yards, so in the NFL he 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.960 ranked sixteenth, but he's got more yards rushing than any 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:02.439 other quarterback in the league, and that includes Lamar Jackson, 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.880 who's the next guy. He's got fifty eight yards more 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.800 than Jackson does rushing and he's ran for five touchdowns. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.040 So you know, we talk about his ability in the pocket, 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.560 and but boy, he can get out and that will 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.960 cause you a problem. Tyrone Crawford was talking about it yesterday, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.760 how this the the pass rush. You have to be 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.440 uh consistent, You have to stay in your lanes. You 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.160 can't collapse because if he bounces outside, you're gonna have 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:35.720 problems because linebackers can't run with them. And I guarantee 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.200 you there's some safeties that can't run with him either, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.360 you know. And the other thing is he leads the 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:47.280 league in yards per carry amongst everybody. You get seven 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.439 point two yards per carry and on forty one carries 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.080 so far this season. So if he's a rambles, these 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:59.480 are designed resign runs. Yeah right, yeah, And we got 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.760 by the way, I was telling Bill ever since we 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.800 were talking about Murray playing at AT and T Stadium, 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:09.880 and I saw that the vice president of media relations 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.440 sent out this little note on his record at AT 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.760 and T Stadium. He's six and old, five and old 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.360 all time at Allen High School, three and three of 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:24.600 those were winning state titles, and then in his college 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.400 one time in college at Oklahoma, want to know, winning 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.439 the Big Twelve championships. So he's not lost a game 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.640 at AT and T Stadium. I was at two of 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.079 those games, by the way, so I can I can 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.640 confess and I can tell you just exactly how those 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:47.560 games win. He's an amazing player. I told you guys yesterday, 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.480 I pulled against him every time I saw him play, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.680 and he made the believer out of me. By the 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.960 time he got to Oklahoma. I don't know what the 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:58.559 heck went on at A and M, but they had 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.560 no idea what they had. I know they had a 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.040 lot of chaos going there at that time. But the 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.760 best thing that could have happened to Oklahoma was the 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.080 chaos at A and M, and boy, he did everything 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:14.360 he could to make those soon as winners. Try. In fact, 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.840 the thing about it is Kyle Allen was at A 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.360 and M when Kyler Murray was at an N and 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.640 Kyle Allen, who's of course now with the Washington football team, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.640 started last week and the Cowboys will be playing Washington 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.520 next week. We'll see if Kyle Allen, of where he 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:34.400 is health wise, whether he's he'd be playing. But Kyler 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.040 and Kyle Allen were came in together and they couldn't 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.320 make a decision on which guy they were going to 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.440 use at A and M, and both of them wound 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.520 up transferring out. Kyler went to OU and Kyle Allen 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.560 went to Houston, and they had a third core the back. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.080 I believe it was Hill right well, Kenny Hill was 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.480 there and he ended up at TCU from the TCU 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.000 and he played well at TCU, and he was he 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.520 was before Murray and Allen, he was prior to them. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.080 What are you trying to remember? I remember his first game. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:05.960 I remember his first game. I think it was against 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.320 South Carolina and they were getting right. He lights out 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.280 and fifty yards passing or something crazy. What are you 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.640 trying to say about A and M. Well, they screwed 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:22.080 it up. They screwed up three times. They screwed up well. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.160 And here's the deal. And not to get on college 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:29.000 talked so much, but since we're talking, Kyler Murray and M. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.640 A and M had the greatest opportunity in the world 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.520 after Johnny Manziel was there because they were on the map. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.560 They had just moved to the SEC. Manziel wins the 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.280 Heisman Trophy and they blew it as far as their 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.920 quarterback situation is concerned. And oh he was in the 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.960 same position here in the last few years when they 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.640 took on Baker Mayfield. He wins the Heisman and they 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.360 get Kyler Murray whatever, and they were able to make 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.320 it to the college football playoffs. And so Lincoln Riley 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:02.480 has had it, has taken advantage of that because as 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.240 you know, whether it's in the college football, the NFL, 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:09.040 or whatever, especially in college football as far as recruiting goes. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:14.000 You know, when you those kids, they don't remember what 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:18.640 happened in two thousand, two thousand and five. They remember 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.440 what happened in two thousand and fifteen, okay, or the 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.520 ones coming out this year, they remember what happened in 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.760 two thousand nineteen, and so you better take advantage of that. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:29.640 And A and M did not take advantage of it 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.280 because they had some disarray and weren't making the right 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.520 decisions on their coaching staff. There was indecision there. 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Check 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:24.960 out the menu at at T stadium dot com Slash 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:29.240 at home Dry some of my child one of my 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:37.440 cubby readers, I gotta reader. We need a cubby readA 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.479 at they need to You need to sell that at 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:48.040 the stadium. All right, Mickey, let's talk to Andre Hopkins. 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.000 That was the big move that the Cardinals made in 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.439 the off season. And Bill O'Brien no longer has a 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:58.159 job in the in Houston after making that move in 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.400 the off season. It seems to be wor working out 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:04.240 well vode for Cliff Gingsbury in Arizona. So somebody in 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.159 Houston must have looked at the league stats and saw 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:12.480 that dean DeAndre Hopkins was leading the league with forty 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:17.040 five catches already after just five games, and leading the 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.159 league with five hundred and twenty eight receiving yards. And 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.080 what caught my eye seeing that when it came to 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:28.600 catches number two, it was a Marii Cooper with thirty nine, 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.879 and Cedee Lamb, by the way, is the leading rookie. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.760 He's twelfth in the league with twenty nine catches. And 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:41.600 the next rookie was some guy named Chenault. Love this 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:48.760 guy this guy, Yeah, Jacksonville and uh. And then when 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.480 it came to receiving yards, Lamb is fifth with four 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:55.280 hundred and thirty three. But Hopkins is a load, and 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.920 I'm sure Everson Walls has kind of kept an eye 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.800 on him. He looks like he's awfully tough to cover 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.919 in man. Hell yeah, that's why he's got paid the 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.439 big bucks. I don't know what O'Brien was thinking. I 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.240 thought he I think one of his his this is 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:16.920 from a black twitter, black twitter, said he was twitter 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:21.359 black Twitter. Yeah, I heard black twitters out there, black Twitter. 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.320 You know that. That's when you get all the street logic, 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.840 you know, they said, Okay, the word from the streets 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:31.040 is O'Brien didn't like the fact that d Hop had 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.159 too many baby mamas, so that's why he got rid 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.199 of them. He thought that was a bad influence on 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.520 the team. I don't know what the heck he was thinking, 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.480 because right now, sure he's paying a whole bunch of 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:46.480 child support with that new contract you got well and 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:49.879 and along the lines of that new contract, you know 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.719 there can I'm sure that in Houston, the owner might 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:55.560 have had something to do with him not being there 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.880 and if he was deciding he didn't want to pay 0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.840 that kind of money to a wide receiver, I don't know, 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.960 but that may have been what led to him the 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:07.520 trade as much as anything. I'm not sure that the 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:12.080 Cowboys that was the off the street theory. By the way, 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.640 they didn't want to pay that money. Where you look 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:19.879 at it, the Cowboys don't pay their quarterback Houston, does 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.399 we pay our wide receivers? That getting off he doesn't 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:25.760 want to pay his wide receiver. Now you've got the 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.639 quarterback making all that money with no targets. So how 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:34.520 is that working out for Houston? That's not working out 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:38.040 very well right now. That sounds like Jerry's logic about, 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:42.000 you know, trying to hold hold the cost down on 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:46.360 the quarterback so he can put guys around him. We'll see, 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:50.880 we'll see. But for the Cowboys this week, they're more 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:55.280 concerned about the Arizona Cardinal version of the Andre Hopkins 0:22:55.400 --> 0:23:00.600 and just adding I think the biggest step that Kyler 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.840 Murray is making from year one to year two. They 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.680 went five and eleven last year. They've already got three 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.000 wins this year in the first five games. I would 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:13.560 think that d hop is the reason that Kyler Murray 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.359 has made the big step that he has made his 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.639 second year in the league. Well, yeah, and then you 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:21.600 still got Larry Fitzgerald to worry about, and Andy Isabella 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.520 has been a really good pick. Christ Kirk and Kirk, 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:29.320 you're you're exactly right. So yeah, they've done a nice 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:35.359 job surrounding him with some receiving options. You know, maybe 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.959 they saw what the Cowboys were doing with their receivers 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:41.400 and said, huh, maybe we need to add something here. 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:45.120 So uh, yeah, they've got a nice deal going. Offensively, 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.159 he's gonna he's gonna be I think. I think Kyler 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.639 Murray he's gonna be surrounded a lot this year, but 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:55.359 not with good wide receiver. He's gonna be surrounded by 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.360 a lot of defensive alignment because right now, I don't 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.480