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Speaker 1: a Philly Show. It's Friday, August first, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Hope everybody is doing great. The trade deadline is over.

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Speaker 1: It ended at six p m. Eastern on Thursday. The

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Speaker 1: Phillies made three moves. They got Joan Doran on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: And then they made a last minute announced after the

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Speaker 2: So do you have a white in the lab?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the diodes connected to him as he I think, just.

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Speaker 3: Before we get going, before we get going, I gotta

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Speaker 3: say something about Matt Manning. I saw him in spring

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Speaker 3: He's got big league time. I'm not sure if it's

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Speaker 4: See what they got, Yeah, worth worth a shot. Try

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Speaker 4: to as Drosky used the expression, we're going to try

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Speaker 4: to help him. Well, if you help him, he could

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Speaker 2: So it's it's it's not a bad you know flyer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no doubt. He's not going to help the

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Speaker 1: Phillies though this year. But Duran and Baiter will help

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Speaker 1: the Phillies this year. Bater was the recent movies took.

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Speaker 1: We spent Thursday's episode talking all about Durant, So let's

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania's Number one casino. I was actually at Parks Casino

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Speaker 1: last week.

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Speaker 5: Tell us about your experience. Time.

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Speaker 1: My wife, My wife and I we went to dinner.

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Speaker 1: We went to the little gastro pub there and I

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Speaker 1: had Jim knows this. I enjoy good prime rib, but

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Speaker 1: I had a little roteste prime rib, very good, real,

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Speaker 1: had a couple of ruben. You'll appreciate this. Had an

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Speaker 1: We had a really good time.

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Speaker 4: Did they give you the red carpet treatment, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the national Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like to keep a class. You keep it fancy

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Speaker 5: Man, there's a lot of stuff going down there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It's tremendous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's so, let's do Harrison Vader, Uh, the Phillies

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Speaker 5: Higher ceiling.

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Speaker 4: I think initially he's gonna maybe platoon in center field,

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Speaker 2: More regular duty.

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Speaker 4: Because that would be a they need to open up

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Speaker 1: We're back. I want to talk about Justin Crawford. We

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Speaker 1: he needs to play a lot. I'm not sure that

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Speaker 5: I think that that's where it's gonna end up going.

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Speaker 5: But it may not.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's just an opinion, maybe a not so

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Speaker 1: me put it this way, it would be surprising, but

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see him, you know, let him hit

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Speaker 1: And then he also talked about Andrew Painter and his

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Speaker 1: the question was posed and he said, well, we see him.

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Speaker 5: I think they got to get his feet wet because if.

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Speaker 4: Accordingly, Dombrawski has been pretty adamant that he's not going

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Speaker 2: I just worry about the warm up.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think of the Mets moves aggressively?

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Speaker 1: You touched so the Mets git Cedric Mullins to patrol

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Speaker 1: move yep head the Philly Him, Tyler Rodgers, Philly Killer,

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Speaker 1: Philly Killer. I was looking at those numbers that I

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Speaker 1: would you guys have any thoughts on on on those movies. Jim, Well, Jim,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Tyler Rodgers and he said he's a Phillies killer.

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Speaker 1: Look at these numbers. Crew numbers against current Phillies in

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Speaker 1: Harrison Bader won for five, Alec Bohm over five, J. T.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's pretty pretty cool that they're both

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Speaker 4: addressing their bullpen and they're like separated by a half

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Speaker 4: game in the standings with two months ago. It's gonna

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Speaker 4: up there, one down here in September are gonna be

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Speaker 4: a lot of fun. They got three relievers?

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Speaker 1: Did they get three?

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Speaker 2: Greg Soto? So they got three relievers.

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Speaker 4: The Philly is gonna get three relievers because they got Duran.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna get David Robertson, and they're gonna get Hey

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Speaker 4: Lazardo in October.

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Speaker 1: And Alvaratto and Alvarado'sado.

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Speaker 4: Alvarado for part of the regular season the last six weeks,

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Speaker 4: so bull pen still has a chance to get better.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious to see what Alvarado looks like because I

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Speaker 4: don't know what was real and what was what was

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Speaker 4: the help he was getting early in the season.

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Speaker 2: And but you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I'll definitely be you know, get him back and

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Speaker 4: taking chances that he looks pretty good. He's got a

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Speaker 4: last six weeks. He's gonna be gonna be free agent.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'll tell you what. I asked Dave that

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Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't hit a hundred, but it certainly sounds

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Speaker 1: we'll see what he's doing down there in Venezuela. We

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Speaker 1: It's like, No, I know what was going on. I

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Speaker 1: expect him to be back and and be just as

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Speaker 2: He took a big jump this year. Yeah where he

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Speaker 3: The quality, but not necessarily the velocity, the quality and

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Speaker 3: the confidence and maybe that stuff gave him more confidence.

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Speaker 9: Whatever I think the vilo was up, wasn't it enough

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Speaker 9: to not very much? Just a tick maybe in a

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Speaker 9: mile an hour or so, not a ton. He was

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Speaker 5: Two years ago went off.

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Speaker 3: I mean, to me, it was about, like I think,

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Speaker 3: the confidence in the fact that he was still more strikes.

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Speaker 3: He was not throwing strikes like he was two years prior,

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Speaker 3: and he lost a lot of the confidence and maybe

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Speaker 5: Whatever the case, I think that they're a.

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Speaker 3: Much better bullpend today than they were three days ago,

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Speaker 3: and they will be in another you know, a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks when these guys you know, kind of filter

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Speaker 3: out and that's that's a big deal. It's a huge deal.

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Speaker 3: It was most important. We talked about it a million times.

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Speaker 3: I do like the things that the Mets did outstanding.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they basically did this to.

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Speaker 5: Combat to the Phillies.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was any question in my mind that

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Speaker 3: that they wanted to get players that you know, have

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Speaker 3: had success against the Phillies and they did. It was

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, you got to give him.

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Speaker 2: A lot of credit for that.

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Speaker 1: What a price they paid, but.

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Speaker 2: Well a big price.

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Speaker 5: But that's what you got to do.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's one of the a little bit

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Speaker 3: And they would basically put all the chips in. They

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Speaker 2: Do you think they were like super serious aggressive on Kwan.

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Speaker 3: I think that they kicked the tires pretty much, but

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: start with Painter. I mean, he's that good of a player.

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Speaker 3: He's that good, and that's what I would have been

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Speaker 4: I just feel like the Phillies were all about a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they got Harrison Matters. What were there any

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Speaker 5: How about how about the Detroit Tigers. The George Tigers

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a totally a totally different rotation and

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Speaker 4: They're gonna need name tags for the pitching coach to

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Speaker 3: It's amazing. I mean, they ended up getting the veteran.

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Speaker 1: I think so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta say something about the Mets. This is

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Speaker 5: Into the game, so they're going to match them up,

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Speaker 5: match them up.

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Speaker 1: Right, And that day Strom seemed kind of excited about

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Speaker 1: that possibility, so I wanted to mention that. So all right,

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Speaker 1: this weekend Friday, Phillies Tigers opened a three game series.

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Speaker 1: Before the game, Jimmy Rerownds and Ed Wade go on

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Speaker 1: to the Wall of Fame. Also, that game starts, It's

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Speaker 1: starts at six forty five, but I the ceremony starts

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Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, So I would highly recommend if

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Speaker 1: you're going to Friday night's game, get to the game

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Speaker 1: a little early. Yeah, you can get to hear C. J.

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Speaker 1: Roll and and Ed Wade and all the Wall of

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Speaker 1: Famers that are going to be on the field. Jack

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Speaker 1: Flaherty is pitching against Rangers Suarez Saturday at four oh five.

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Speaker 1: This is the one you if you don't get a

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Speaker 1: ticket this weekend and you want to go down, go

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Speaker 1: Saturday because it's Trek Schouble against Zach Wheeler. What a matchup.

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Speaker 1: That's fun. That's a fun one. And then Sunday night

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock started on ESPN. It's Troy Milton against Christopher Sanchez,

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Speaker 1: so it should.

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Speaker 5: Be to call those games for ESPN Radio on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: You do really that's exciting?

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Speaker 1: That is that's very cool? Yeah, that's very great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who's doing the play by play with you?

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Speaker 2: Brain lock?

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Speaker 3: And I know boog is doing the one on Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: John Shambi is doing one on Sunday night and I

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Speaker 3: am brain cramping on who is doing it on UH

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Speaker 3: on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: So but it'll be fun yeah for me, perfect, perfect

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Speaker 4: for you and your because you have a face for radio.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. But yet.

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Speaker 4: A J.

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Speaker 5: Hinch and I can have the super secret Stanford handshake.

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Speaker 4: There you go, Maybe he'll give me tell you, tell

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Speaker 4: you what the steel sign is.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he will.

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Speaker 4: You can look real smart and see, I think this

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Speaker 4: guy is gonna go here.

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Speaker 1: It'll be all right now that that that's happened right

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Speaker 1: in the past, right guys.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know that's happened.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the broadcasts to get those signs. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna throw this out here. I think that guy

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Speaker 1: should steal second base right now. There you go, Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: you really know what you're talking about really, he's on

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Speaker 1: top of it, brilliant. We'll be back next this week.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Smell you Lator, Boys, Smell you Jim.

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