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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper a Square presented by hard Rod Batt.

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Speaker 1: We are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is

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Speaker 1: the show to make the squares sharper and makes the

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Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention.

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Speaker 2: I am Chadman and I enjoined as always by my DFF,

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Speaker 2: my companion Mike Fadre my co Ho Professional Better Signing Hunt. Hello,

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Speaker 2: So I am in Chad.

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Speaker 3: What we thought was gonna be a terrible Christmas Day

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Speaker 3: for football actually turned out to be pretty dang good.

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Speaker 3: So I'll give props the NFL doesn't matter what they

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Speaker 3: put out their their product wise.

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Speaker 4: They always end up getting good games.

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Speaker 3: And so Evan Abrams had a crazy tweet Holiday games

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving dogs three and oh Black Friday. Obviously the Bears,

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Speaker 3: your Bears dominated the Eagles, covered as a dog, and

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Speaker 3: then we went three and oh again on Christmas.

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Speaker 4: So underdogs on the Holidays, seven and oh pretty pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: And yeah for our show, you know, I pushed on Dallas,

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Speaker 3: but we hit on Minnesota, hit on the Chiefs, lost

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Speaker 3: on the money line parlay obviously, the Lions lost out right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys, now fifteen to one, set the record

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Speaker 3: most overs ever for a first half in an NFL season.

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Speaker 3: So thank you Dallas Cowboys. Once again Dak Prescott in

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Speaker 3: a meaningless game of December.

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Speaker 4: My god, is he good?

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Speaker 1: Simon as one of my favorite Englishmen, you are, let

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Speaker 1: me be one of the first to wish you a

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Speaker 1: happy Boxing.

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Speaker 4: Day, Chad.

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Speaker 3: I finally got the real info in Boxing Day from

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Speaker 3: my mother. I asked my mom what Boxing Day was,

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Speaker 3: and it blew my mind. It's a Victorian era holiday.

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Speaker 3: It goes back to eighteen thirty three Boxing Day, and

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Speaker 3: apparently she said it was basically the rich people would

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Speaker 3: give their leftover gifts to their servants and they would

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Speaker 3: give them the day off after Christmas because have to

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Speaker 3: work on Christmas. So it wasn't as happy in jolly

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Speaker 3: as I thought I was going to be. It's still

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Speaker 3: a cool holiday because it's a tradition of people getting

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Speaker 3: off work and it's a holiday I wish America.

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Speaker 4: I can't give it today. I saw people out working today.

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Speaker 3: It's like, my god, we can't figure out a holiday

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Speaker 3: for Boxing Day, and we can't figure out the holiday

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Speaker 3: after the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I might need to run for president just on those

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Speaker 4: two basis.

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Speaker 3: Jack, give us the day off of Christmas and the

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Speaker 3: day off after the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you and I are working today. Matt Mitchell

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Speaker 1: was working today. That's yeah, exactly, we're working. We're struggling

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Speaker 1: through it. My Christmas was blown up.

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Speaker 2: Because I tested positive for COVID.

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Speaker 1: I know Matt Mitchell's Christmas was a blast, even though

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Speaker 1: he was in the er or his wife was in

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Speaker 1: the er with one of his kids for most of

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Speaker 1: the Christmas Eve night.

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Speaker 2: But here we are. We're getting through it.

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Speaker 1: We are the Kansas City Chiefs of the podcast world.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get through it. We're going to play

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Speaker 1: our best. We're gonna be professionals. We're gonna cover.

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Speaker 2: We're going to cover it all.

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Speaker 4: Oh it even mention the Chiefs. They covered.

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Speaker 3: Like Chad just said, now, that's stats since nineteen seventies,

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs is a double digit dog at home fourteen

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Speaker 3: and oh against the spread, crazy.

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Speaker 2: And beat it, can't beat it.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this thing because every week

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Speaker 1: we get some feedback from the professional betters who have

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Speaker 1: been listening to the show, and Simon.

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Speaker 2: They got a lot of feedback for you. It's time

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Speaker 2: for sharp.

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Speaker 4: Car half answer this boat.

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Speaker 2: All right, Rain Range telephone range.

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Speaker 4: Somebody said it maybe want to do man, Yeah, let's

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Speaker 4: start off with the Saturday games. They love Chad's bet

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Speaker 4: on the Texans, which I agreed with, right.

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Speaker 3: I think we were both in the same page as

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Speaker 3: that when we like that matchup a lot, and you know,

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Speaker 3: especially a game we could break down more. But I

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Speaker 3: same and tality we do.

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Speaker 4: It's just, yes, the.

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Speaker 3: Chargers have been winning. This is gonna be the best

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Speaker 3: d line they've they faced since the Eagles. I remember

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Speaker 3: So that was a really fun discussion game. We've seen

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Speaker 4: So yeah, professionally, he has definitely hit that one. Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, not much to say about the Green

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Speaker 3: would say in last twenty four hours, I haven't really

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Speaker 3: talked to many pros backing Green Bay now minus four

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Speaker 2: So we're not even going to talk about this game now.

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Speaker 3: Well, in our other contest, it's probably gonna be play

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Speaker 3: for US at two and a half, just because that's

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Speaker 3: such a good number now, especially if Ulmar is gonna

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Speaker 3: miss that game for the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to the Sunday games.

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Speaker 3: Really really interesting splits between the Eagles, which I think

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Speaker 3: on that Bill's side might have got a little call

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Speaker 4: I really didn't think the.

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Speaker 3: really interesting one, Tennessee. Not that shock and I told

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Speaker 3: Pros love it. Every pro I've talked to is on

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Speaker 3: believe it opened four and a half. K suspension came out,

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Speaker 3: in very heavy, bumping this down to three at most books.

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Speaker 3: So that's another really interesting game and game I gave out.

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Speaker 3: to some really sharp groups that did take the Panthers

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Speaker 3: I'm on the other side of it. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: my professional brothers. I really like the Rams.

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Speaker 4: They love the Falcons, they love the number on the Falcons,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you have an opinion on

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Speaker 3: I'm even more dug in. I bet even more and

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's get into it. I think we

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Speaker 1: Differences of opinions, and then we're on the same side

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Speaker 1: of a bunch of things. The Texans at the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I'm so bummed we can't put this into our Sharper

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Speaker 1: love the Texan Here, I bet the Texans at two

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Speaker 1: Demiko Ryan sixteen percent. ROI as an outright underdog as

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Speaker 1: a head coach. But look, this is all about betting

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Speaker 1: against the Chargers offensive line. I just will not be

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Speaker 1: great against a team that did what it did against

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Speaker 1: Josh Johnson in the second half on Christmas. I won't

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Speaker 1: getting that win when they when Jalen Hurtz had so

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Speaker 2: I'm just not buying it.

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Speaker 1: I know, justin Herbert is great, that'll buy This offensive

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too interesting where this game ends up, because,

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Speaker 3: of you know, that Egos game. They probably should have

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Speaker 3: lost it, right, things went their way, and we're giving

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Speaker 3: outlast them, right, They won sixteen to three. That was

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Speaker 3: the exact type of game that Herbert always loses to Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: So I do want to give Herbert props. I know

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Speaker 3: people were saying, you know, he should be the MVP discussions,

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Speaker 3: that's too far going the one way, But I do

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Speaker 3: So I get why the general public is backing them here, right,

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Speaker 3: why they trust him more in the sense that you know,

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Speaker 3: the playoffs that matchup the last time they played. You

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Speaker 3: do kind of have to burn those tapes of throw

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Speaker 3: it away, right, That was first games Herbert could possibly have.

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Speaker 3: But the defensive scheme that I think you can give

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Speaker 3: Herbert the same type of problems has not changed. And

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Speaker 3: it's even more so he doesn't have his you know,

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Speaker 3: one of the best team lines in football. So I

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Speaker 3: am right there with you, Chad. It's it's the toughest

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Speaker 3: part about our contest, right.

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Speaker 4: There are five.

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Speaker 3: Games this week we cannot play in our contest because

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Speaker 3: there's two on Saturday and the three obviously for Christmas.

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Speaker 4: That's hard.

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Speaker 3: That means we have eleven games left to pick from

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Speaker 3: from our contest, three of which I don't want to bet.

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Speaker 3: So now we have eight games. Yeah, games out of

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Speaker 3: the eight, so still all the time of our contest.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I care, like I'm betting more on

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Speaker 1: Two and a half Seattle at Carolina. Uh, you loved

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Speaker 2: You make a very good point. Seattle's been great on

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Speaker 1: About forty eight hours since we discussed it, seventy two

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Speaker 3: We've seen Bryce Shung have these incredible performances where he

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Speaker 4: That game they won that game.

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Speaker 4: This is different.

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Speaker 3: This Seatles defense is just so legit and defensively, their

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Speaker 3: all those stats about know Sam Donald, when he's a

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Speaker 4: This is the exact same thing for the Panthers.

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Speaker 3: The Panthers need to win this game and they don't

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Speaker 3: makes me happy knowing no matter what, if it's three,

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Speaker 4: So I'm getting off on this week.

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Speaker 3: Chen I love Seattle in this spot, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville at Indy, that's the game that I want to

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like this is the ultimate by low

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Speaker 1: Couldn't cover anyone, lost by three touchdowns. We saw what

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Speaker 2: For the number one seed. Here, I have a theory.

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Speaker 1: that is clear as day. Indianapolis Colts plus six and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's that's why I like the the Denver part.

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Speaker 3: I get why people have hated, right, their defense probably

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Speaker 4: They've had a pre self schedule.

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Speaker 3: But the problems I did give the Boe Nicks is

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Speaker 3: same thing with Caleb Williams, Like these comeback wins. What

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Speaker 4: Like these? They keep winning these one score games Denver,

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Speaker 4: Am I going to be hammering them for Super Bowl odds? No?

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Speaker 3: And this jag where I seem a little bit what

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Speaker 3: This number to me, just like last week the Colts,

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Speaker 3: there's just six and a half a hard rock here

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Speaker 3: I just I gave you guys historical numbers. I can't

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Speaker 3: it was Minshew, doesn't matter if it was Blake Bortles.

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Speaker 3: It's just they've had tons of trash or the quarterback position,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to each other. I'm just I

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Speaker 3: So people betting this one, if you are with Chad

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Speaker 3: I'll just be patient.

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Speaker 4: I'll take the five and a half.

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Speaker 3: If anything, I'll just throw them in a teaser and

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna fight you on it because I do

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Speaker 4: It's just I can't get over how good this Jags

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Speaker 3: Even I went back and watched that Denver that Denver game,

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Speaker 3: So I think, I said, I just I'm seck the

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Speaker 4: I just think they're just so undervalued by the general public.

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Speaker 3: Soul could be a week that Chad's much sharper than

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Speaker 3: me with this COVID cold because he's not in only

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Speaker 3: this game, the Tennessee game.

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Speaker 4: You were. You were ahead of it on both of

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should just have COVID every week and then

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Speaker 1: I'll just have clarity, fog for fog for everything else,

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Speaker 4: So that's the best way to live.

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Speaker 3: Christmas miracle, people, a man in his fifties realize his

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Speaker 2: Don't make me weeze New Orleans and Tennessee. This line

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Speaker 1: And a half at hard Rocket, opened at three and

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Speaker 1: I also bet Tennessee on the money line. So look,

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Speaker 1: But I just want to feel better after you said

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Speaker 1: the wise guys have been pounding this as well.

441
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's fair.

442
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Speaker 3: It could it could be a little bit of a

443
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Speaker 3: public dogs what we talked about, right, this is a

444
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 3: Tennessee team that we've all left for dead, and I

445
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Speaker 3: think I gave it up. They won like three o

446
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Speaker 3: their last five, like they had been winning games. It's

447
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 3: been pretty impress so not that shocking. I didn't I

448
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 3: have not seen the ticket stuff, but you're right, like,

449
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 3: I'll probably get more infu on that as the week

450
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Speaker 3: goes along here. But yeah, I, like I said, you

451
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 3: were spot on it when it was three. The two

452
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 3: and a half is still a great number as well.

453
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm like I said, I'm banned from betting it,

454
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 3: but if I was going to bet it, I would

455
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Speaker 3: be joining chatter. I think the early read on Tennessee

456
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Speaker 3: is right, and it's another game. I wouldn't be shocked

457
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Speaker 3: if he did put in the contest because it's probably

458
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 3: a game that should be a pick. But like me,

459
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Speaker 3: I'm with the public. I still think the books are

460
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Speaker 3: underrating Shuck and how great he's been for this Saints' offense.

461
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Speaker 3: So I really can't wait to see how this game

462
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Speaker 3: ends up because either my model is way off and

463
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Speaker 3: I'm overrating Shuck and I'm so in love with this

464
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 3: guy because I have all this money on him to

465
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Speaker 3: be Rookie of the Year, or I'm spot on that

466
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Speaker 3: he is legit, which I cannot believe because going back

467
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Speaker 3: watching his college tape, I just can't believe that he

468
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Speaker 3: actually is a good quarterback. So yeah, this Saints game

469
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 3: is really fun because it's not that it dictates the future,

470
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Speaker 3: but I feel like it's it's another game that decides,

471
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Speaker 3: you know, is Chuck the best rookie this year? He's

472
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Speaker 3: gonna win Rookie of the Year because this is a

473
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Speaker 3: true test. Right, He's had a great test with the

474
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 3: Panthers the Bucks, those were great, great wins, but this

475
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Speaker 3: one is really interesting because they just had a blow

476
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Speaker 3: went at home now they're going on the road.

477
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Speaker 4: We'll see how this young rookie deals with success. That way.

478
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Speaker 1: I'm this is this is not going to be a

479
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Speaker 1: corner TV game. This is going to be in the

480
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Speaker 1: four box. I will so be watching this game for

481
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Speaker 1: so many reasons. There's actually going to be a blast.

482
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Speaker 1: And by the way, kudos to Mike McCoy. Mike McCoy,

483
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: who was kind of a nondescript, forgettable coach with the Chargers,

484
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 1: has come in whatever he did, has highlighted how bad

485
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan was right because with with whether it was culture,

486
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: whether it was discipline, whether it was play calling, running

487
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: the ball, running the ball, how he's managing this team

488
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: generally has just changed it dramatically and turn them into

489
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 1: much more of Ay safer Bet, I think you can

490
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Speaker 1: lift yourself imposed ban.

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Speaker 4: I don't want that. I respect to the fans. I

492
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: just I cost them in myself way too much of

493
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Speaker 4: money with my stupid opinions on Tennessee.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the flip side is you could be costing

495
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Speaker 1: them money now by banning it like I'm on it,

496
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm making I am now making money on the Titans.

497
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Speaker 4: It's crazy what a world are you live.

498
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Speaker 2: In the COVID Man.

499
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Speaker 1: The COVID brings clarity Pittsburgh at Cleveland, Simon, Cleveland Browns

500
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: are a three point underdog at home. Like we said,

501
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Speaker 1: the land has moved from four and a half to

502
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Speaker 1: four to three and a half to three.

503
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns are.

504
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Speaker 1: Going to be our brass balls Better the Week presented

505
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Speaker 1: by Hard Rock Bet.

506
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Speaker 4: You know what it takes. It takes brass balls.

507
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: Who knows what's going to happen in this game.

508
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: If the if the Ravens lose on Saturday Night, well,

509
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin all of a sudden start resting starters.

510
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: We know Dk metcalf is not going to be playing.

511
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: I think we're we're leaning into the division rivalry. We're

512
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: leaning into Miles Garrett going for the sack record. We're

513
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 1: leaning into fading Mike Tomlin as a favorite on the road.

514
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: It's an anti raw ras spot all of those things.

515
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: As you pointed out, this is where I want to

516
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Speaker 1: say a bet on a team with nothing to play

517
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Speaker 1: for versus a bet on a team with something to

518
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Speaker 1: play for. In the last two weeks of the season,

519
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: sixty against the spread you said it more eloquently, but

520
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: now that I remember it and it's in my notes.

521
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Speaker 2: I wanted to share it.

522
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like Chad just said, it's a very unique

523
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 3: spot here where we could be getting a great number

524
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 3: because Pittsburgh could simply be sitting.

525
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Speaker 4: All their guys, right.

526
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: This is a really fun game that you know, the Ravens,

527
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Speaker 3: I think they're up to minus or plus four and

528
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: a half now. Yeah, the books are kind of telling

529
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Speaker 3: you they don't think they're going to win there. So

530
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: the only thing keeping this number up is it's tons

531
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: of public money coming in on the Steelers team because

532
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: they're just seeing the minus three, right with a Pittsburgh

533
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Speaker 3: team that's been beating pretty good competition these lest weeks,

534
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: playing a Browns team that y'all know, they're just not

535
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: very good, especially offensively, and they've had now they lost

536
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: Junkins to an injury, the running back. Like it's just

537
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: it's a nightmare for the Browns. But we've been talking

538
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 3: all season this Browns team. You know, they we were

539
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: a little disappointed them because their defense, like it wasn't

540
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: shown up the last couple of weeks. Yeah, you know,

541
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Speaker 3: even that Bills game, you can't really say they dominate

542
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: or showed up in that game totally. It was just

543
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: Buffalo really did take the gas pedal off that second half.

544
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: But you know it was another game was close, right,

545
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Speaker 3: And you just go through other games. You know, the

546
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Speaker 3: Tennessee game they lost at home, I think they lost

547
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Speaker 3: by two, and that Bills game, even though they should

548
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: have probably lost by ten or eleven, they only lost

549
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 3: by three. So we've just seen this Browns team, even

550
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: as bad as they've been down the stretcher, they still

551
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 3: have been playing really tough in close games at home.

552
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: And Chad just nailed it. It's like, it's this is

553
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: gonna be the Miles Garrett party, and I love the

554
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: irony of it if it is gonna be Mason Rudolph

555
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 3: being the quarterback that he gets the sack record against

556
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: all that just coming together, and yeah, it's it's really interesting.

557
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 3: We talk all the time about how I gave out

558
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: that stat five the last six times Cleveland's beat Pittsburgh

559
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: outright at home, and you know that's with you know,

560
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson's backups and just disaster of the season these

561
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: Browns have had these last couple years. They've just continually

562
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: beaten Pittsburgh in the spot at home, so never.

563
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Speaker 4: Was gonna avoid it. We talked about it in the contest.

564
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Speaker 3: If you've got to get the three and a half

565
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: is a great number to lock in, because that number

566
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 3: just felt like it was gonna keep falling. And now

567
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: that we know that whole Pittsburgh drama with the Ravens,

568
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: that f the Ravens lose Pittsburgh, they've locked up the

569
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: title of the North. They don't need to play anybody.

570
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: I just don't see Tom and riskin all these veteran

571
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: guys they have playing this game. So this was a

572
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: game you don't see Rogers. And you know, as much

573
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Speaker 3: as we like to hate on Rodgers, he's been really

574
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Speaker 3: impressed in Yeah, so it's it's it's gonna be pretty

575
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Speaker 3: interesting how different this team is in a game that

576
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: just means nothing them against a Browns team that I

577
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 3: think this is going to mean something to them.

578
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be.

579
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Speaker 3: Playing hard, especially since your Sanders, who ye still playing

580
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Speaker 3: for a job here, So think me and you were

581
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: in sync. Youre chatty, And if this is two and

582
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 3: a half in our contest, I'd still take it as

583
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: long as you're getting a good plus number on.

584
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Speaker 1: The Browns agree, Simon, you and I mind meld. I

585
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: hope I don't give you COVID.

586
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 4: It's pretty one of my bigger bets this week. It's

587
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 4: like I might really load up a bunch of door

588
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: in the Browns.

589
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Speaker 1: But it's a great holb We totally are Matt Mitchell.

590
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm throwing you a curveball here because I want to

591
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Speaker 1: add in Tampa.

592
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: Bay at Miami. The number is five and a half six. Simon,

593
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Speaker 2: you didn't mention.

594
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Speaker 1: It in sharp calls at all, But this just is

595
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: continuing to feel like a big number for me for

596
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: the Bucks because they have not been able to execute

597
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: effectively at any point or cover a big number like this.

598
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: And Devon Achan could run all over this team. As

599
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: we've see, they have not been great at stopping run.

600
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: So why aren't we having a bigger conversation about Miami.

601
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 4: I just I'm with you. You're spot on.

602
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: Miami is definitely the side on the spot here. But

603
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: like I've been talking about this Bucks team, this isn't

604
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: going to continue. They're gonna have a game where they

605
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 3: do get right. This offense, the weapons that have age

606
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: is too good. Like what you're saying is true to

607
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: me for them.

608
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 4: Defensively, right, Miami should be able to run the ball,

609
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: but you saw that last week Quin yours, you can't

610
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 4: complete the ball ten yards now field chet like he

611
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: was throwing in the double triple team. So I think

612
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: your idea is sound and right. Like. If this is

613
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: too a this would be one of my bigger bets

614
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Speaker 4: of the week.

615
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: I just I can't be bet in this quarterback that

616
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: can make completions against a team that is insanely desperate

617
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: at this point. I mean, talk about a dream scenario

618
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 3: to get right. If you were the Bucks, you were

619
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: now facing one of the worst secondaries in all of football,

620
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Speaker 3: like Mike Evans. Guy when a Mecca Buca Baker, No,

621
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: we've talked, Baker's.

622
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 4: Had an injury. This is a no excuse type of game.

623
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Speaker 3: He should be able to move the ball and pass

624
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: it all over the field against them Carolina. We saw

625
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: in the first half he wasn't rhythm. The second half

626
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: we've reverted back to that. We we keep talking with

627
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: this Baker. That's just the thirty ninth out of thirty

628
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 3: nine quarterbacks in the league in EPA per play.

629
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Speaker 4: He's just he was horrible. So I think you're read

630
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 4: is sound. I'm just I'm with the public here.

631
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Speaker 3: I'm back in Tampa and I'm taking the five and

632
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: a half and I've seen actually some pro Moneyeah, that's

633
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: not even gonna talk much about it coming on the Bucks.

634
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: This did go from five to five and a half,

635
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: and now I'm seeing a couple of books move to six.

636
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's an interesting game where I think

637
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: your read is right in the sense that if you

638
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: want to play that playoff stat we gave out, the

639
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: Dolphins are technically a sixty percent play right here, right there,

640
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: this is the spot you're supposed to take them. But

641
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: I am totally totally worried about them, just offensively with

642
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: Queen Yours. It feels like they got the call right.

643
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: Don't put in Zach Wilson, put it in the other kid.

644
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: Let's let's start losing some games here. There's no point

645
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: of us being eight and nine. Let's go and nine

646
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: wherever they're trying to get to now. So it's it

647
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: just feels like Miami's totally giving up on the season.

648
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 1: I was going to talk about the Giants and the Raiders,

649
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: the battle for the number one overall pick, because the

650
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Raiders have now become one point underdogs. They were one

651
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites when we spoke on Tuesday.

652
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: But the news is that brock Bauers is on IRS.

653
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: He's not going to be playing.

654
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Speaker 4: That's why I moved.

655
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Speaker 2: I think that's why it moved.

656
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: But also, the Giants aren't going to have Andrew Thomas,

657
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: and they've got other O line injuries, and the Giants,

658
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: as we've seen the past couple of years, are just

659
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: a much different team when Andrew Thomas isn't playing. And

660
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: so are we balancing out sort of the disadvantages when

661
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas isn't playing and Brock Bauers isn't playing, And

662
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: then do we just go with the team we know

663
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: is going to have the psycho coach who could give

664
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: a shit about draft position.

665
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, to me, this is number five or number

666
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: six for our contest comes Sunday. Like, I love this game,

667
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: even though I know I shouldn't because there are I

668
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: just said, there's so many unknowns here. And you did

669
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: see the line flip when the brock Bowers news got,

670
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: you know, came out just because he is so important,

671
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he is he coming to the season, he

672
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: was my number one great tight end. I think I

673
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: have him at number two now, behind Trey McBride. But

674
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: still for their value to the spread, they're probably only

675
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: a handful of tight ends even command half a point,

676
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: let alone a point. And yeah, seeing this flip three points,

677
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: it feels like a bit extreme for the brock Bowers news.

678
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: So I know Raiders are super public side. I've talked

679
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: to most bookmakers. They they're basically taking a ton of Raiders' money.

680
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: I still think it's the right side. And then that

681
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: stat I gave out on Tuesday just keeps ringing in

682
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: my head. Right, you have two teams, you know, below

683
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: three percent one percentage playing this late in the year.

684
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: It's only happened four times in NFL history, I think

685
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety the home team four and oh straight

686
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: up in that exact spot.

687
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: So you know, the numbers bear it out.

688
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: I know it's a small sample, but it kind of

689
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: shows that when there's two bad teams there is a

690
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: slight home advantage to it.

691
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: And you know, Chad just gave it out there.

692
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: Now the Giants, who already have a bad offens line,

693
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: now they're down again. Their best offensive tackle playing against

694
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: a D line as much crap we want to give

695
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: to the to the Raiders, that's probably their only strong

696
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: thing we have defensively, and that's what we talk about.

697
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: Max Crosby gets to pick left or right, He picks

698
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 3: whatever side he wants to. So really unique spot here

699
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: for this Vegas team that I think offensively, not that

700
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: they've found something against Houston, but I feel like they

701
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: did right they kind of figure it out. It's just

702
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: a type of team that you know, we know they

703
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: have the weapons, they just never could put it together

704
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: consistently because their offensive line is so bad. And I

705
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: know a couple of people ask me about that. Do

706
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: you expect the Giants bill to take advantage of that?

707
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: You've seen it with the Giants their biggest weakness, especially

708
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: against the Runners, because they still have linebackers. So Genty

709
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: is the exact type of running back you need that

710
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: can neutralize a good defensive line.

711
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: So, like I said, this is a game where I

712
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: don't know how you feel about it right now.

713
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: I just excuse this game came up by a vision

714
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: because again we only could pick out of eleven games

715
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: for our contest. I could easily see this being one

716
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: fifth or sixth game we talk about just because it's

717
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: a game I like and it's just gross enough for

718
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: us to make into the contest.

719
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: So I don't feel that strongly about it.

720
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: And the rest of the games we're talking about, I

721
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: think we're all on the fence about so I'm happy

722
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: to have it. In consideration, Philadelphia at Buffalo.

723
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: Buffalo is a.

724
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: One point favorite right now, it's come down from two

725
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: and a half. I think the news is really about

726
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He's been limited in practice because of his foot,

727
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: and I think also the Eagles have said they're going

728
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: to play their starters, so talk about you know, in theory,

729
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles kind of have nothing to play for, whereas

730
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: the Bills actually have something very important to play for.

731
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit of a turning that stat

732
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: on its head. You would want to be on the

733
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: Eagles here. Unfortunately, I've bet into the Bills at two

734
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: and a half, I bet them at one. I bet

735
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: them on the money line, So I'm over exposed on

736
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 1: the Bills here. I don't feel strongly that we need

737
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: to that we need to play.

738
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: Sorry, Peter out there the end, Yeah, I'm right there

739
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: with you. It's I I wanted to be on the Bills.

740
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: I like this about a lot for the Bostule. We

741
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: just talked about.

742
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: It's a team to me that they're going to be

743
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: putting the foot on the gas, like really want to

744
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: beat the shitt This Eagles team has it hid in

745
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: the playoffs for the Eagles, those have got total letdown spot.

746
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: Like they've been partying, you know, a couple of nights

747
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: after they won their division, and they have a bunch

748
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: of guys coming back from injuries that I don't know

749
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: if they're gonna play them in this game.

750
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 4: Talking about Lane Johnson the order. So it's it's a

751
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: weird one chat where I was right there with you.

752
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: I honestly haven't bet anything on the Bills yet. I

753
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: do think I'm gonna take a position on them. I've

754
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: just been waiting, like you to learn more about Josh Allen.

755
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: Is it the foot, is it a bad ankle? What

756
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: is the injury? Is he going to practice Josh Allen?

757
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: You know, the biggest thing I always talk about is availability.

758
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: The greatest strength of Josh. Honest he simply does not

759
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: miss time. He is one of the toughest guys in

760
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: entire league. It's why we all love him, right, not

761
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: just the numbers he puts up, but it's just a

762
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: guy that he takes insane hits, he gets the shit

763
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: kicked out of him, never miss his games. He never

764
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 3: missed his games. He truly is Superman. And I've talked

765
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 3: about it his future.

766
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 4: It's gonna be interesting how his life goes, you know,

767
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: how what's josh Aan gonna be?

768
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 3: Like a thirty five thirty four after playing the style

769
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: he's played, he's twenty nine. So to me, if he's

770
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: good to go chet, if he gets cleared, if he

771
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: gets the shot, I don't mind betting the Bills here.

772
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: But if there is no practice all week for him

773
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: and he's coming in kind of limp here, it's not great.

774
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: Like this is a legit good Eagles defensive line that's

775
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: gonna give him problem, especially if he's playing on one foot.

776
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: So this is a game where I thought for sure

777
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: we'd have it as one of our five. I don't

778
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: have enough info cheat it might be a game I

779
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: just kept it avoid and I don't know if it

780
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: can be there. But I do, like I said, I

781
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: do want to bet on the Bills. Do not like

782
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: this all for the Seaguals team, and you know it's

783
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 3: it's gonna be interesting following this injury port all day

784
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: today because you know it's Christmas. There's a holiday, so

785
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: obviously Josh in practice yesterday. I believe we heard he

786
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: was limited maybe on Wednesday. Yeah, he does a full

787
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: walk through, unlike Lamar, Like Lamar hasn't done anything highly

788
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: don't like Lamar plays. If we get at least a

789
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: walk through with Josh Allen, I'll feel much more comfortable

790
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: bet in the s Bills team knowing it's gonna be

791
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 3: him and not Mitch Trubisky.

792
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: It's so funny when you said his greatest strength and

793
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: we don't know what his life is going to be.

794
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: Like I was thinking, well, you know, he's having a baby,

795
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: he just got married, He's got so much going for him,

796
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: and you're like, thirty four to thirty five, can he

797
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: still be taking these hits? But that's because I've learned

798
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: to love my kids.

799
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: I just he gives me major Lway vibes. Like you

800
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: remember Elway's knees at the end of his career, they

801
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: were just falling.

802
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: Off the bone.

803
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: The dude could barely walk.

804
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, It just makes me feel the same.

805
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: It was just like Elway was a crazy freak athlete,

806
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: just like Josh Allen or Ben Roethlisberger, another great comp

807
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: Ben was just like him, impossible to take down in

808
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: the pocket, his giant statue. The guy couldn't move from

809
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: his left to his right at the end of his

810
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: career because his knees were just so shot. So I

811
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: just that's my only word with Josh Allen. There's nothing

812
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: else to worry about with him, right, he is Superman.

813
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: But it's just houses by gonna help up this guy.

814
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: Every time they get close in the red zone. It

815
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 3: just feels like his body's the batter and d He's

816
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: just one of a con Josh Allen. So it's it's

817
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: crazy he's held up this long. Like I said, this

818
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: injury it's the only one I can really think of

819
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: this season that spooked me about him, Right, he's pretty

820
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: much all season.

821
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: We just don't know.

822
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: Is it a broken bone the foot, is it an ankle?

823
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: We Honestly, everything I've read like I'm looking right now

824
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: on social media, no one knows. It's people just literally

825
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: they're just throwt shit against one hooping something sticks. No

826
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: one knows what the real injury is. I honestly think

827
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: if he is limited and then does the walkthrough, it's

828
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: just whatever a bone, BRUI. I don't think it's anything

829
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: serious because Josh is the type of guy that he

830
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: knows like he just he can't miss any games for

831
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: this team.

832
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: Social media is a font of truth, as we all know.

833
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears plus three at San Francisco. It got up

834
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: to three and a half and like immediately got bought

835
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: back down. I don't know, man, Like I'm so emotionally

836
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: invested here, Like it's gonna be Sunday night, Hopefully by

837
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: then I'll be coming out of my COVID stupor and

838
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: I'll be watching it with my kids and like enjoying

839
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: it as a family that acts as if we're from Chicago,

840
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: even though we live in the middle of Connecticut. But

841
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: every week feels like a letdown spot for the Bears,

842
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: And every week now feels like the Niners are overrated,

843
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: especially coming off five touchdowns and everyone acting like Brock

844
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: Purty is the MVP who could have been?

845
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: So what do we do here?

846
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: It's like high Point High Point by Hi by High

847
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: Everyone's in Vidia in this game.

848
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's unfortunately I can't put Chad down. Chad's

849
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 3: Bears down, and we're saying who who they beaten? Because

850
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: they have I mean, you look, beat everybody.

851
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: Right, and they be playoff teams, right.

852
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: They beat Pittsburgh probably gonna a playoff team, beat the

853
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 3: Eagles a playoff team.

854
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: They'd be Green Bay who because the Lions they are

855
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: now a playoff team? Right?

856
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 3: So you know as much you want to get the

857
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: Bears because all their games come down to the final

858
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 3: two minutes.

859
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: You know they've put it together this season.

860
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: Right, as horrible as their defense has been, what are

861
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: they leading the league chat and turnover rate? Because your

862
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: quarterback doesn't turn the ball over, your defense gets picked.

863
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: So they've found their identity, like they really didn't the

864
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson right, No, stupid turners. Offensively and defensively, they bend,

865
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: they give up yards, no doubt about it, but they

866
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: don't break.

867
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 4: They get the turnovers they hold up in the red zone.

868
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: So I think this Bears can be an undervalued and

869
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: just looking the splits too, like there's a bunch of

870
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: different books I'm looking at right now.

871
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: The tickets are pretty even.

872
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: All the money is on the forty nine Ers, like

873
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: the pro is clearly in the public have taken a

874
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: liking to this Niners team, So I think.

875
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: The three is right.

876
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: I've talked about a nauseum this Niners team. Yes, they've

877
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: been winning games, but I've been super suspect of this

878
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: defense just being held together by bubblegum, Like eventually it's

879
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 3: going to come back on you. You can't be the

880
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: worst team in the league on getting pressure on the

881
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: quarterback and not have a bite in the ass once

882
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: you play good teams like the forty nine Ers. They've

883
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: been getting away with it because they've been insane offensively.

884
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: I mean Mac Jones, I believe is still the number two,

885
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: number two quarterback and passer rating against playoff teams this season.

886
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 4: I think Brock is now number five.

887
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: So it's like it doesn't matter which quarterback has been

888
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: in Their offense has been humming this season the Niners team,

889
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: So I get why the public's coming in on them.

890
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: They look at this matchup and they think that they're

891
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: just gonna roll the Spars team. But I'm telling you,

892
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: I think the Bears offensively can keep this close, and

893
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: we've seen it. Purty does throw those fifty to fifty

894
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: balls every now and then, and that's against gonna be

895
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 3: against embarrassing that loves quarterbacks that do that, right, they're

896
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 3: always looking to very take advantage of that. And you

897
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: know they give these unique looks with the leather drop back,

898
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: the defensive lineman, whatever it is. They've kind of had

899
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: these looks where these quarterbacks don't see these type of

900
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: schemes as Bears teams doing, which is high risk variants. Right,

901
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 3: They're leaving guys wide open to double team certain guys

902
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: where you know they have the numbers. They show that

903
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: they really did a get great against Jalen Hurts, Right,

904
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: they're really doubling aj They're letting our number three receiver

905
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: run solo or free because they just knew it hurts.

906
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna look at his first read, especially when he's

907
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: getting blit. So just once again, really impressed by what

908
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: this Bears team does. I'm with Chad. Maybe I'm like Chad,

909
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: I'm too close to it, but if our contest is

910
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 3: three and a half.

911
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 4: There's no way we avoid this one. There's no way.

912
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 4: I just with the hook. I love it.

913
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: And again I have this game model of two so

914
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: if I'm getting a point and a half on the

915
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: team I really like in this Bears team against a

916
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: forty Nite team that I am very suspicious of, I'm

917
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: gonna take that number every time. So yeah, I love

918
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 3: this game and it's huge, huge playoff ramifications this one.

919
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: This game, shockingly, I can't believe about to say this.

920
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: This game could easily decide the one seat in the NFC.

921
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 3: So I can't wait to see it. This Bears team, man,

922
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 3: this is a once in a lifetime type of season

923
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: if you're a Bears fan, truly is Well, look.

924
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to make a call because we also

925
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: talked about the Rams and that number is going to

926
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: be eight and a half in the contest. We also

927
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: we don't want a Sunday night game in a mind

928
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: game in the contest, so you know what I mean, We'll.

929
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: See that that game we can be patient on because

930
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: like again, one of more public books now is down

931
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: to seven and a half. So, like I said, the

932
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: pros they are coming in Atlanta. I'm more than happy

933
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: to let that scare us off and we avoid the

934
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 3: Rams because I have talked to I'm free and no

935
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 3: betting the Rams. This summer, this this December, I probably

936
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: should get off the train. I just can't help it.

937
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: It's like they just McVeigh is a covering machine in

938
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: this month. I've talked about it, so I have no issue.

939
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: I was backing off that Rams side just because I,

940
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: like I said last week and see that I'm too

941
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: close to it. But at some point we're gonna be

942
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: getting the best of the number. Like this is now

943
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: seven and a half. I mean, if I have that

944
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 3: number a ten, how can I avoid that Rams number?

945
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: So it's it's just just streeting how much love Atlanta

946
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: is getting. It's just you know, like you Chad talked

947
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: about Drake London's back, you know with Kirk.

948
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: Should be a game.

949
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 3: They should be able to keep close against a Rams

950
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 3: team that we've seen it now right Their their defense

951
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: looks like it might be their Achilles heal. They can

952
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: be run on if certain holes in their secondary of

953
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: this Ramps team. So that's that's a game where I'm

954
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: not gonna force to make it one of our five. Chicago.

955
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 3: I would force us to make that one of our five.

956
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: I really have a lot bet on that Chicago number.

957
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: Oh.

958
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: I love for Chicago to be in the contest for us.

959
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,880
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991
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: A lot of people have asked, what are the odds

992
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 3: of this playoff pool that we have this year? So

993
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 3: I basically ran my model. What were the odds before

994
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,279
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995
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:16,120
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996
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,680
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997
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: on just the AFC side. So, I mean, this is

998
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: like what I dream of with football. I'm gonna lose.

999
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: I have someone to lose a decent amount of money.

1000
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: The only team I have left in the AFC that

1001
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: I will win money on is if the Bills make

1002
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and play the Rams or the Eagles.

1003
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 3: That's that's the last hope I have, just because, like

1004
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: I've talked about, I just didn't think Drake may or

1005
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: Bonix would be the type of guys i'd have any

1006
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: type of Super Bowl futures on.

1007
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: And obviously I have some regrets with that one.

1008
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: It's favors that I saw teams that missed the playoffs

1009
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: that are winning fifteen games in the prior season two

1010
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: thousand and eight New England Patriots. Everyone remembers, obviously the

1011
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: torn A cl with Tom Brady twenty sixteen Carolina Panthers,

1012
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 3: which makes sense, right, That was kind of a fools

1013
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 3: goed fifteen to one Cam Newton team that just fell

1014
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: off the next season. The twenty twenty five Chiefs and

1015
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five Detroit Lines. Wow, pretty insane, right,

1016
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: two of them in the same season. Another one I

1017
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 3: really loved, which was the one seeds. So one seeds

1018
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 3: to be the one seed the year before and then

1019
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: not make the playoffs since two thousand. We had in

1020
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: two thousand and one Tennessee in the Giants, two thousand

1021
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: and eight New England in the Dallas, two thousand and

1022
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: ninth Tennessee and the Giants Tennessee.

1023
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 4: That's kind of crazy.

1024
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: Three times them, twenty twenty two Tennessee and Green Bay,

1025
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: then obviously twenty twenty five the Chiefs in Detroit. So

1026
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: it's just really unique. Right We always talk about the

1027
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: window closes pretty quick? Do we think the Chiefs windows closed? No, Detroit,

1028
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: I know the public has left them for dead. You're

1029
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: a Detroit fan, get ready for it. I Am going

1030
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: to be betting all of your futures next year. You

1031
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: literally went from the first place schedule to I think

1032
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: next year you get Arizona, Tennessee and the Giants. That's

1033
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 3: gonna be insane. You guys get fully healthy next year.

1034
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: So the Troy fans, I know, it's horrible right now,

1035
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: your lives are just I get it, like that was embarrassing.

1036
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: Probably one of the worst games I've ever seen a

1037
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: quarterback playing Jared Goff other than Jalen Hurts obvious with

1038
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: the five turnovers. But yeah, it's it's just a unique

1039
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: time right now football, So yeah, for me and my

1040
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: biggest bets, Chad, I'm not gonna lie. People haven't bet

1041
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: too heavily into these games, right I bet into the

1042
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: Christmas games because they were so early in the week.

1043
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: Houston, I'm probably gonna take all my larger positions on

1044
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: just because it's tomorrow.

1045
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: And I want to be there with it. Seattle, I've bet.

1046
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: I've been patient. I've been hoping to get the six

1047
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: and a half. If I start seeing it tinker back

1048
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: up the seven and a half, I will go very

1049
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: heavy on Seattle at seven. I'm just hoping to get

1050
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: the six and a half. I really hope that number

1051
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: gets bet down the professionals. Cleveland, no surprise that people

1052
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 3: the three and a half the threes. I've bet pretty

1053
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: heavy into it, and I just have a feeling comes Sunday,

1054
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: this bare side of the plus three tonna be one

1055
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: of my bigger bets. So yeah, I really like the

1056
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: dogs this weekend. I didn't say it because I'm not

1057
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm making myself now I can make it one of

1058
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: my bigger bets. But I'm I'm very tempted here on

1059
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: Vegas with them being plus one and a half. It's

1060
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: just I can't believe that line is not a pick

1061
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: let alone. Then minus one one, so Vegas could get

1062
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: there for for right now though just the two sides

1063
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: are lowed up on his Cleveland and most likely Houston.

1064
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: My dog blocks your dog, Your dog blocks Mo doll

1065
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: our Underdog. Partly, I feel like we're giving ourselves an

1066
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: opportunity here.

1067
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Houston the Bears, Yeah, you gotta go Bears, Tennessee.

1068
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 4: Cleveland, simple rounded off. Let's just go the Vegas.

1069
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Vegas and then the favorites m a little.

1070
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: Tougher, shockingly, but right.

1071
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: I mean, people probably won't hear this in time, but

1072
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: I put Green Bay in there. I think they won't

1073
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: hear it any time unfortunately. Yeah, Hm, Tampa Chat. How

1074
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: do we not put Tampa's.

1075
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: Money along Tampa rams?

1076
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? Rams? I mean I do two and a half

1077
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: on the rams for that one, and even though we

1078
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: don't know yet, but I just want to do it

1079
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: because it's good value. It feels like we have to

1080
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: do the bills.

1081
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Underdog parlay we're doing Uh who did

1082
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: we say we did? Houston the Bears, Tennessee and Tennessee

1083
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: Cleveland Narraiders, Favorites, Parlay. We're doing Seattle, Green Bay, Tampa Bay,

1084
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Bills. Sharp versus Square, my friend

1085
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: last week, I think we both won. Actually I had Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: I had Bills ten and a half ten minus ten.

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Speaker 2: All right, who do you got?

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Speaker 4: You don't want to go first?

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll go first. Give me Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: I'll go Cleveland, Cleveland plus three.

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Speaker 2: You're taking Cleveland even though there are brass falls. That's

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Speaker 2: why I because they were falls.

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Speaker 3: I'll be the man here. I'll do what Chad should

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Speaker 3: have done. Give me Chicago plus three.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like it all right, Sharpers's Square. I'm taking Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Simon is taking the Chicago Bears. This has been Sharper Square,

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Speaker 1: part of the Volume podcast network. We will be back

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Speaker 1: on Sharper Square YouTube on Sunday morning. As you eavesdrop

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Speaker 1: on an intimate conversation between me and Simon. We will

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Speaker 1: be back on Sharper Square YouTube Sunday night to recap

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Speaker 1: all of that misery from Sunday, watch or listen on

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Speaker 2: Feedback is a gift. Until next time.

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Speaker 1: Love you, Come on baby, one time, one time, one time,

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Speaker 1: one time, one times.

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Speaker 4: H