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Speaker 1: And this is the NFL Report.

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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to the Week twelve edition of the

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Speaker 2: NFL Report. I'm Steve whitehe as my guy, James Palmer JP.

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Speaker 2: We saw the Jags, we saw the Ravens. Oh and

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Speaker 2: did we ever see the Eagles get big wins as

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Speaker 2: well as those Atlanta Falcons to take over the NFC

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Speaker 2: South JP.

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Speaker 3: Every other team in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: South took a loss, and one of them proved very

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Speaker 1: There is a second coaching change in the NFL. Steve

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Speaker 1: frank Reich is out. We know this that happened this

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Speaker 1: morning after starting one in ten and the offense that

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Speaker 1: he was put in charge of, specifically David Tepper. The

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Speaker 1: owner wanted to hire an offensive mind their twenty eighth

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Speaker 1: or lower in almost every single offensive category. Soper moves

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Speaker 1: on with his third head coach firing. He's had two

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Speaker 1: with his MLS team. And to break all of this

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Speaker 1: down with the quick trigger finger of David Tepper is

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Speaker 1: as I'm calling him, the official NFL Insider of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Report. Mike Carrafollo should be joining the show. There, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there he is. He just flies into the middle of

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Speaker 1: the show. Mike, I know you got a pulse on everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm the official insider because hean treated

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Speaker 4: he's out for good.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you know why I made the call, and I'm

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Speaker 1: making it today on the show official Insider of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Report, Mike, you got a pulse on everything, you

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Speaker 1: know when things are kind of coming. I did this

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Speaker 1: talking to people in Charlotte. When did you really get

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Speaker 4: Well back up, because I thought you're gonna ask me,

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Speaker 4: when did I get a sense that this was possible

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Speaker 4: I would say back to when I had the game.

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Speaker 4: Where did Frank Reraich take back play call? I'm so

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Speaker 4: lost because he gave it up and he took a check.

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Speaker 4: So I don't remember the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: You must have gave it up then, like.

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Speaker 4: It maybe it was when he gave it up. And

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Speaker 4: all these weeks are running together, guys, you know how

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Speaker 4: it is. But I remember that night talking to people,

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Speaker 5: Thomas Brown was taking some of the concepts that he

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Speaker 4: And so you've got two different guys, two different voices

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Speaker 4: I had Steve Smith with me that night, and I

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Speaker 5: I said, Steve, what do you think he goes?

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they want to fire another coach

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Speaker 5: I would imagine David Tepper doesn't.

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Speaker 5: So look, I know he wanted an offensive mind.

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Speaker 5: And David Tepper really wanted Ben Johnson. Last year.

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Speaker 5: Steve Walks was sitting there staring him right in the face.

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Speaker 4: Right, So, if your number one target was gone, why

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Speaker 5: I just at this point, Steve Wilks could have done this.

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Speaker 1: So I go what you're saying, Mike, So that that

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Speaker 5: What was the thinking that maybe both of those guys, because.

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Speaker 5: My sense is that it's a little twofold one.

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Speaker 4: This is kind of what we're seeing in the NFL

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Speaker 5: No, let's go with the special.

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Speaker 5: We've got this kid moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: He meddles.

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Speaker 2: I think that's when Frank Reich stepped on the green

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Speaker 2: it's one of thirty two and whoever comes in, he's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I would say that sometimes I've seen this

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Speaker 5: To turnover coaches and turnover coaches.

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Speaker 4: I remember the Giants, a couple of years ago when

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Speaker 4: Let's got back to San Francisco because they made sure

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Speaker 5: So that's a potential.

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Speaker 4: Positive here as you're coming up as a candidate for

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Speaker 4: Otherwise, I've heard a lot of positive things about working

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Speaker 4: We shall see if that ever comes to late. Frank

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Speaker 4: Braich did have a chance today in speaking with Scott

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Speaker 4: and instead he took the high road.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, guys, in my opinion, I think this

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Speaker 1: I agree, I really do, because now you don't have picks.

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Speaker 1: You don't get to pick the quarterback. Quarterback's been selective

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Speaker 1: Steve mentioned, you now have concrete evidence, Mike in multiple

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Speaker 1: But Mike, before we move on, I am curious are

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Speaker 1: we giving Bryce Young a pass in this situation? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned what they did. You know, they really changed

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Speaker 1: different times during OTAs they continue to do it throughout

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Speaker 1: this season, putting more and more in terms of what

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Speaker 1: he did at Alabama and trying to find different ways

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Speaker 1: room successful all the change and everything he's been through.

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Speaker 5: What have you heard about about him? Especially? Are we

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Speaker 5: giving him a pass because of.

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Speaker 5: Because there has to be some. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And first of all, by the way I do you

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Speaker 4: Steeves questioned me, was why is it attractive? I do

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Speaker 5: This team is not there yet.

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Speaker 4: The offensive line is not going to provide him with

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Speaker 4: Well, and that's why Scott Fitterer of the GM did

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Speaker 5: We'll work on that in the offseason and they will.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, he's got to figure this all out, right,

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Speaker 4: He's got to sort of simplify it and dumb it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets a pass.

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Speaker 2: Look, we see this a with Tua where he comes

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Speaker 2: I think he gets a pass on this because this

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Speaker 5: Mike.

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Speaker 2: One day, we're going to have you back on see

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Speaker 2: if Jim Harbaugh might be a potential candidate even though

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that is ideal. But also, Mike, no,

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Speaker 2: But you were at you were at like the best

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dandy right there.

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Speaker 2: And so we do know that the Patriots took a

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Speaker 4: At the very end, the rookie is set from thirty

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Speaker 3: Good, kick on, it's playing, and go for wherever it's go.

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Speaker 3: Good bet mister white lamp.

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Speaker 2: Playal with mister white.

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Speaker 3: Laugh sonother rookie beats Bill Belichick. Oh boy, oh boy.

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Speaker 5: So we needed to see it again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we we just had to see that game of Mike.

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Speaker 3: When you when you when you look at this game,

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: We know the Patriots they are what they are. But

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Speaker 4: Well, let's actually start with the outcome of the game,

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Speaker 4: perfect opportunity for me to do it. In the pregame,

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Speaker 5: Is when I asked the question and they were like, Noah,

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Speaker 4: Back to your question about Belichick in his future, it

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Speaker 4: just feels like time it does Robert Craft really has

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Speaker 4: Go back to March, go back to the league meetings

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Speaker 4: when he said that girod Mayo was the basically coach

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Speaker 4: Say what we think you said? And he doesn't say

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Speaker 4: it by accident. Robert Craft knows exactly what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: I thought the League meeting in October was going to

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Speaker 4: He did an interview with Rich Eisen in Germany before

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Speaker 4: just feels like time for Bill Belichick to move on

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Speaker 4: So this is gonna be a lot of speculation, But

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Speaker 5: So let's see how it plays out.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't feel like Bill Belichick's the kind of guy that

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Speaker 5: There will be opportunities.

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Speaker 4: Some have speculated about Washington and it's proximity to Annapolis.

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Speaker 4: You know about his Navy connections and his feel for

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Speaker 1: Love it, Mike, Love all the insight. Right before we

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Speaker 1: let you go, how do you feel about your new title?

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Speaker 1: Exclusive insider to the Report.

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Speaker 4: I think I feel like it's great. I think it

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Speaker 4: probably on the shelf behind me, right by Carmen's. This

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Speaker 4: I don't know why it's upside down. No, she's getting

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Speaker 4: to the age now, she's six, and James, you've got

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Speaker 5: Why was the heart upside down on the football?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. You won't tell me. It's all the

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Speaker 3: Mike. You know this multiple levels, Mike, No, she's thinking

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Speaker 3: that to a through it. It's the left handed rotation

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Speaker 5: Why she's a football art girl?

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Speaker 2: Thereil Mike t you are the man. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: great insight. The story is not going away, and now

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Speaker 2: what else.

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Speaker 3: Is it going away? Bigger news?

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Speaker 2: That was the biggest news watch But now the bigger

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Speaker 2: news is coming back and it does involve the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: Oh and the team they lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Next on the NFL Report.

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Speaker 6: So the game ends if he misses from fifty eight

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Speaker 5: There's the kick. The fifty eight yard.

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Speaker 4: Field goal is no God, it hit the crossbar.

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Speaker 3: It came back.

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Speaker 4: The Jacks have coment beaten the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: How good is that?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve whitch

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 5: Steve.

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Speaker 1: We slid down Bigger news because we had massive news

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Speaker 1: with Leshi at the top of the show. But every

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Speaker 1: Monday we usually like to start with bigger news. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with what is bigger news, Steve. Is

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Speaker 1: it the Jaguars going down to Houston and beating the Texans,

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Speaker 1: AFC South, Or is it the Philadelphia Eagles where I'm

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Speaker 1: still here in Philadelphia winning just an insane game over

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills to move to ten and one and

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Speaker 1: next Sunday.

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Speaker 5: I'll start.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's Philadelphia Eagles. That's why I'm still here, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Not here's your hotel, my brother, them moving to ten

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Speaker 1: and one, It's because of how they won this football game.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has thrown for under fifty yards in each

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Speaker 5: Then he goes and does what in the second.

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Speaker 1: Half, scores thirty points four of his five touchdowns there

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Speaker 5: Shows how clutch he is as a player.

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Speaker 1: But it's not only that they beat the Bills, who

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Speaker 1: during pregame warmups. In this game, they also did it

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Speaker 1: steve to win this game shorthanded and win games in

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Speaker 5: Season, and we saw it once again.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were extremely short at tight end in

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Speaker 5: So what can you do.

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Speaker 1: You can't help chipping next to Jack Driscoll against this

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Speaker 3: That's it. They know how to win.

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Speaker 2: And they've got Jason Kelcey on that touchdown run there

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Speaker 3: Gonna lose it anyway.

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Speaker 2: It is Jacksonville going down to Houston opening up that

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Speaker 2: think the Jacksonville Jaguars needed to prove something to themselves

445
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Speaker 2: because when they supposedly have been challenged this year, they

446
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Speaker 2: really haven't risen to the occasion. They've got thumped by

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers and some other teams that they've

448
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Speaker 2: had to play.

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Speaker 3: But they went down there and this was a fantastic game.

450
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Speaker 2: It was a great game between two great quarterbacks who

451
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Speaker 2: I liken to on NFL game day previews. This could

452
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Speaker 2: be this generations Peyton Manning Tom Brady. In the fact

453
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Speaker 2: that Trevor Lawrence came down and led that drive. Calvin

454
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Speaker 2: Ridley was spectacular. He looked like the Calvin Ridley we

455
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Speaker 2: expected him to be. That they were able to come

456
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Speaker 2: down and win. Now again this is my virtue of

457
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Speaker 2: a doink and missed field goal on the end. To me,

458
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Speaker 2: that proved something because they missed a field goal, because

459
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Speaker 2: their defense, in particular edgdrusher Josh Allen showed up at

460
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Speaker 2: the right time on the final drive.

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Speaker 5: So I like that.

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Speaker 2: We've got two different opinions, and the Jacksonville Jaguars now

463
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Speaker 2: sit at the number three playoff seed in the AFC. Okay,

464
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Speaker 2: on that note, AFC, No, I don't know how.

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Speaker 5: Do not move forward? Do not move forward?

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Speaker 1: See, because I do want to make a note on

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville and because of the AFC. The reason I also

468
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Speaker 1: picked Philadelphia is because this also might have helped out

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Speaker 1: everybody in the AFC. When I went out and watched

470
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen go out and do what he did against

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Speaker 1: the Eagles team, this might have helped the rest of

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Speaker 1: the AFC avoid Josh Allen in the point as it's

473
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Speaker 1: now going to be even more difficult for the Bills

474
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Speaker 1: to get into the postseason and man died, Josh Allen,

475
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Speaker 1: like brilliantly was the best player in the field. One

476
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Speaker 1: note about the Jaguars before you move us on, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Or of their last six games are against teams with

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Speaker 1: losing records. Yes, of the two teams with winning records.

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Speaker 1: One of them is a Deshaun Wattle. Deshaun Watson lists

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's team. Could they make a play for the

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Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC? They need some help,

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Speaker 1: but it is in striking distance. That's why your game,

483
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Speaker 1: I do agree, could be maybe the bigger news, but

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Speaker 1: I'm sticking with them very much.

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Speaker 2: Striking distance. And you know one team that could be

486
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Speaker 2: making a play to get into the AFC playoffs. Oh yeah,

487
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Speaker 2: tell Denver Broncos. So bigger news that the Broncos won

488
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Speaker 2: their fifth straight or that the seven and four Pittsburgh

489
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Speaker 2: Steelers finally eclipsed four hundred yards of offense at their

490
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Speaker 2: firing OC Matt Canada to beat Cincinnati Bengals yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Bigger news, JP.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say bigger news is a Denver Broncos because

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Speaker 1: I believe the Steelers are the more talented team out

494
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Speaker 1: of these two teams. So the coaching job that Sean

495
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Speaker 1: Payton has done during this five game win streak, I

496
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Speaker 1: think has been remarkable. They have figured out a formula

497
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Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson which is limited throws. I think he's

498
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Speaker 1: thrown more than thirty balls only once during this five

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Speaker 1: game win streak. He throws for about under two hundred

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Speaker 1: yards in each of these games. I think he's only

501
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Speaker 1: top that once during this win streak.

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Speaker 5: And what happens if the.

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Speaker 1: First read's not there, it's a checkdown Steve or they're

504
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Speaker 1: running the football. I know that makes some people around

505
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Speaker 1: the NFL want to pull their hair out, but they've

506
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Speaker 1: figured out a way to win games. And the other

507
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Speaker 1: part of it is we're seeing the best player on

508
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Speaker 1: that team actually make a massive impact in how they're

509
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Speaker 1: winning these games, and that's cornerback Patrick Sirtan and what

510
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Speaker 1: he does planning that top corner spot. This defense has

511
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Speaker 1: turned the football over like crazy pills right now. And

512
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Speaker 1: a big part of it the Broncos believe by what

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Speaker 1: Sirtan has done doing at that corner spot where quarterbacks

514
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Speaker 1: have to hold the ball for another tick for the

515
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Speaker 1: number one receiving op is taken away where they can

516
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Speaker 1: do different things with their defense because you can cover

517
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Speaker 1: part of the field. I think this has been a

518
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Speaker 1: phenomenal coaching job by Sean Payton and the turnaround, which

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Speaker 1: we give the credit to defensive coordinator Advance.

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Speaker 2: Jokes, it absolutely is the Denver Broncos. Look, the Pittsburgh

521
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Speaker 2: steel has got four hundred yards of offense, but they

522
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Speaker 2: always scored sixteen points. I mean, come on, I mean whatever. So,

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Speaker 2: but it's absolutely Denver Broncos and JP. Five games win

524
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Speaker 2: five games straight in the NFL is difficult. We thought

525
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Speaker 2: they were dead right. We thought this is the reducts

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Speaker 2: of Nathaniel Hackett. At one in five, we thought Vance

527
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Speaker 2: Joseph the defensive coordinator was in trouble.

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Speaker 3: And here they go.

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Speaker 2: They come out and now they are firmly in the

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Speaker 2: cross hairs of making a playoff push. We're gonna find

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Speaker 2: out about that as their next opponents coming up at Houston,

532
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Speaker 2: at the Charger there at Detroit. Right, those next three

533
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Speaker 2: games are going to determine whether what you said earlier

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Speaker 2: on the NFL Report, JP, that the Broncos will make

535
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, not earlier today, but a couple of episodes ago,

536
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Speaker 2: will absolutely come true. All right, coming up next on

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Speaker 2: the NFL Report, Oh, we're going to the NFC North

538
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Speaker 2: and we're going to the NFC West.

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Speaker 3: As Jordan Love is he the real deal?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Our Stacy Dale's is about to join us and give

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Speaker 2: us the skinny.

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Speaker 3: After the break on the NFL report.

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Speaker 6: Mons back Craft to the left, snip to Love left

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Speaker 6: the left side of the end zone, kids center catch, touchdown,

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Speaker 6: questioned Watson. Yes, yes, they make the Lions pay.

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Speaker 2: All right, that was ready a call from the Packers

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Speaker 2: thanks Giving Day victory over the Detroit Lions, and we

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Speaker 2: bring in our Stacey Dales and Stacy you were at

550
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Speaker 2: that game.

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Speaker 5: It was the perfect.

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Speaker 2: Complimentary football by the Packers, like you know, the stuffing,

553
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Speaker 2: the macaroni and cheese.

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Speaker 3: That went with a turkey on a lot of people's slates.

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Speaker 2: But Stacy, I gotta talk about the Packers quarterback Jordan Love.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know the team, well, he showcased in

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Speaker 2: front of a national audience what he's been playing like

558
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Speaker 2: actually for the past month. What are kind of some

559
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Speaker 2: of the things you're hearing about how the Packers feel

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Speaker 2: about Jordan Love, his teammates, front office, whatever, because he

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Speaker 2: looks like maybe he's their guy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And I would say the opponents believe that too.

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Speaker 7: You know, when I was preparing for this game, you

564
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Speaker 7: guys know when you have these conversations with opposing defenders

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Speaker 7: and they're telling you about what they see on the tape,

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Speaker 7: like Alex Sandeloni told me last week before they played,

567
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Speaker 7: you can see why they moved up to get him

568
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Speaker 7: and drafted him where they did, because he's starting to

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Speaker 7: look like the franchise quarterback they obviously had played earlier

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Speaker 7: in the season, and he just looks so much more

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Speaker 7: confidence and that is it's real. I mean watching that

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Speaker 7: game in person on Thursday, guys, and talking to Christian

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Speaker 7: Watson after that game and then pregame, we learned so

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Speaker 7: much on the field, right, James and Steve in terms

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Speaker 7: of our conversations with coaches, and we knew, you know,

576
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Speaker 7: the proverbial he's the first one in last guy to leave,

577
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Speaker 7: but he's he's so steady Eddie in his daily and

578
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Speaker 7: has been in his daily endeavors at the facility whether

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Speaker 7: they've won or they've lost. Throughout the season. We've been

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Speaker 7: waiting for this, and Matt Lafleur said it after this game.

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Speaker 7: The coach guys like they can now open up the

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Speaker 7: playbook because the chemistry is finally developing with these youngest

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Speaker 7: offense in football. It is literally factually the youngest offense

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Speaker 7: in the National Football League, and so now you're feeling

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Speaker 7: that manifest because all those little things they're doing are

586
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Speaker 7: starting to come together. Early in the year, my conversation

587
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Speaker 7: with one coach was like, it's almost like a bull

588
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Speaker 7: in a China shop type of offense because precision is

589
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Speaker 7: so important with the quarterback and those receivers and the

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Speaker 7: offensive line. And now we're starting to see it come

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Speaker 7: together and they've won three of their last four games.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm all in on Jordan Love.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 1: I love it, Stace, because I said on the show

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Speaker 1: last week, Steve, remember at the end, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I talked to a couple of defensive coordinators that were like,

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Speaker 1: he's about to break out. It's about that monster game

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Speaker 1: from what they were seeing from Jordan Love.

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Speaker 5: And now we've seen it.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it the last couple of weeks, and it's

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Speaker 1: fun to watch him grow with his young receivers. Stay,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the team that they beat in the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions now, Peter King and his colum because even

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Speaker 1: and how we're both Rida is going have the Lions

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Speaker 1: eaked with the turnover issues that they've had with them

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Speaker 1: being unable.

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Speaker 5: To get stops.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on being there seeing them have the

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Speaker 1: Lions eaped? In our sense because I don't want them to.

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Speaker 1: They've been so much fun to watch this year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great question. I think anytime you see

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Speaker 7: them struggle against the Chicago team, though it's a divisional game,

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Speaker 7: the comeback that they had to manufacture against the Bears,

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Speaker 7: I honestly believe James to answer your question. I think

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Speaker 7: it was just a very emotional week. You've got to

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Speaker 7: win your divisional games, and you guys know covering this

617
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Speaker 7: league for so long that divisional games are the hardest

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Speaker 7: games because you know each other so damn well. And

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Speaker 7: you have that emotional roller coaster against Chicago four days later,

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Speaker 7: which is the shortest game in the NFL that we

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Speaker 7: have all season because it's the turnaround of Thanksgiving at

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Speaker 7: twelve thirty kickoff. I just think that they were there

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Speaker 7: was something energetically that just wasn't there. I mean, when

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Speaker 7: do we ever see as you see on the lower

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Speaker 7: third there Jared Goff fumble at three times. I don't

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Speaker 7: know if he's ever done that. Actually historically the Packers

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Speaker 7: came to play though. What was interesting, guys when I

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Speaker 7: walked in the Lions locker room after the game, the

629
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Speaker 7: veterans had all cleared out and you know, you win

630
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Speaker 7: that game, and you can imagine they're probably celebrating the veterans,

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Speaker 7: many of them are still in there, probably going to

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Speaker 7: talk to the media. Well, it was like it was

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Speaker 7: barren in that locker room. They were pissed. So I'll

634
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Speaker 7: be anxious to see how they come out of this

635
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Speaker 7: sort of mini buy and get ready, you know, and

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Speaker 7: become the team that we think that they are. Problem is,

637
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Speaker 7: they're just giving up too many points. By the way,

638
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Speaker 7: defensively they are giving up I forget which week it was, whitch,

639
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 7: but like they're giving up the most points in the

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Speaker 7: NFL over these last few weeks, which is concerning.

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Speaker 3: Look, we saw the forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Ers go through a skill like this where they had other

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Speaker 2: troubles and they directified.

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Speaker 3: I think the Lions can do it as well. Real

645
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Speaker 3: quick stays he.

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Speaker 2: Since you live in Chicago, talk about evaluating Jordan Love.

647
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Speaker 2: Justin Fields is a guy we know the Bears don't

648
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Speaker 2: know what they're gonna do with, and we also don't

649
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Speaker 2: know if the people making the call on that are

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Speaker 2: going to be in the building after the season. What's

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Speaker 2: kind of feeling about Justin Fields, who did look good

652
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Speaker 2: run the offense in a loss last week.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, when his return from his hand injury. There's so

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Speaker 7: much to dissect here that we could sit probably and

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Speaker 7: talk for hours, hold a couple of cocktails, right like,

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Speaker 7: it's here's the talk of the town. His starting record

657
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Speaker 7: in the NFL over three seasons is six and twenty six,

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Speaker 7: So he plays like he did. He has over one

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Speaker 7: hundred on the ground. He had more designed runs than

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Speaker 7: he's ever had against the Lions in that game I

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Speaker 7: just alluded to. And they still lose because they don't.

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Speaker 3: Know how to finish.

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Speaker 7: And unfortunately in this league, that falls on the coach

664
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Speaker 7: in the quarterback. And I think Mike Tomlin and had

665
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Speaker 7: the best quote coming out of their victory over this

666
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Speaker 7: past weekend when he said, quote, guys like myself and Kenny,

667
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Speaker 7: we're judged by winning and losing. We don't run from it.

668
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Speaker 7: We're winners today. But that's Mike Tomlin just stating the facts.

669
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Speaker 7: If you win in the NFL as a quarterback, regardless

670
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Speaker 7: of how you play. Look at Jalen Hurts, James, You're

671
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Speaker 7: there in Philly right now. He's fine in ways to win.

672
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Speaker 7: They are ten and one for a reason because they

673
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Speaker 7: know how to win games. And so the conversations around

674
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Speaker 7: Justin surrounding Justin Fields. Who's up obviously next May, it's

675
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Speaker 7: going to be so fascinating because of all those things

676
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Speaker 7: we're going to talk about, right, who's going to be

677
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Speaker 7: the coach? Is it going to be Mattyberflus Again, what's

678
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Speaker 7: the management going to look like? They've got probably two

679
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Speaker 7: top picks in the draft which will take place before

680
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Speaker 7: the judgment day in May as to whether they extend

681
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Speaker 7: Justin Fields, And then I would just say this, does

682
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Speaker 7: Justin Fields want to be a Chicago Bear because notoriously

683
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Speaker 7: there are so many issues at quarterback and in terms

684
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Speaker 7: of winning over the last decade. You've got to get

685
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Speaker 7: to the root of those problems in Chicago. But unfortunately

686
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Speaker 7: Matty Burfluse doesn't have a win against the division in

687
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Speaker 7: his tenure, and Justin Fields is six and twenty six,

688
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Speaker 7: and I think he would tell you we've got to

689
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Speaker 7: learn how to finish, which he did this week in

690
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Speaker 7: his press conference.

691
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Speaker 3: Oh you're coming back. You are coming back, man. You

692
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Speaker 3: cannot leave us on a cliffhanger like that.

693
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, cocktails are not Stacy, We're we're chatting this again.

694
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Speaker 3: Yes we are over.

695
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Speaker 7: Let's say, hey the Vikings tonight. Justin's never beat the Vikings.

696
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Speaker 3: There's a start.

697
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Speaker 1: Let's see, hey, that'd be the start, that'd be the star,

698
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Speaker 1: and Stacy's gonna be sitting thanks for having the city

699
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Speaker 1: or a monster one next week between the Eagles and.

700
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Speaker 5: The forty nine this is the aim of maybe the

701
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Speaker 5: season all else.

702
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Speaker 4: Wait, the forty nine Ers the most versatile offense in

703
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Speaker 4: the National Football League.

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Speaker 8: I want to play by brocks Purdy, un stappable, vend

705
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Speaker 8: than my competitive.

706
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Speaker 3: EMC is a touchdown machine.

707
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Speaker 4: Turtles a man, say Ben, say.

708
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Speaker 5: Marks out of my game.

709
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Speaker 4: I got everything he needs channel now, but stay Bo

710
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Speaker 4: can't be tackled.

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Speaker 3: The forty nine Ers are loaded charge kettle ts three

712
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Speaker 3: touchdown catches tonight not a cat? Fine, boy, are you

713
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Speaker 3: just the best team the Niners have had for a

714
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Speaker 3: long time.

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Speaker 6: I'm step a ball down up, So dam's give them

716
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Speaker 6: a show?

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna be get omar Ruiz.

718
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Speaker 2: After getting that highlight film of the forty nine Ers,

719
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Speaker 2: Big oh was in Seattle Thanksgiving to watch the forty

720
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Speaker 2: nine Ers. But the beatdown on the Seahawks. Oh I

721
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Speaker 2: was gonna want to get you in again. Right, they

722
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Speaker 2: think the Seattle cannot beat the forty nine ers, But oh,

723
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Speaker 2: besides that, and more so than just the way that

724
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Speaker 2: the beatdown went, the forty nine Ers now are two

725
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Speaker 2: and oh they are playing their best football of the

726
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Speaker 2: season and moving forward. As James mentioned, they got the

727
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Speaker 2: Eagles next week in Philly. What is kind of the

728
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Speaker 2: feeling coming out of that locker room with the boys in.

729
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Speaker 3: Gold and red.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they're excited.

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Speaker 8: I think this is a team that is used to

732
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Speaker 8: playing in big games. As Eric Armstead told me, he

733
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Speaker 8: loves playing in big games as this.

734
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Speaker 5: Is certainly one of them. But they have that proper perspective.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, playing in three of four NFC Championship games, several

736
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Speaker 8: of the players have made a Super Bowl run. They

737
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Speaker 8: know that their real goals for the season and aspirations

738
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Speaker 8: can't be accomplished until January and February, but they are

739
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Speaker 8: excited to see where they match up against Philadelphia. We

740
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Speaker 8: all remember the NFC Championship game last year. Asked Trant

741
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Speaker 8: Williams about playing the Philadelphia Eagles the measuring stick component

742
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Speaker 8: of it. I think Philly is one of the few

743
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Speaker 8: teams in the league that can match the physicality, if

744
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Speaker 8: not surpass, what San Francisco brings to the table on

745
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Speaker 8: both sides of the ball. And Williams told me that,

746
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Speaker 8: of course, looking forward to play football coming out on top,

747
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Speaker 8: whether they win or lose this first week of December.

748
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Speaker 8: You know, obviously they have a month left in the

749
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Speaker 8: regular season to figure things out before the playoffs were

750
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Speaker 8: to begin, but certainly a lot of excitement coming out

751
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Speaker 8: of that locker room after the Seattle win on Thursday.

752
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Speaker 1: Oh, they're heading back to Philadelphia where Brock Perdy's injury happened.

753
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Speaker 1: And you know that that's a chip on this entire

754
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Speaker 1: organization that they've been using this entire off season. What

755
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Speaker 1: about the chip they're using in season as they're heading

756
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Speaker 1: into this game about their quarterback and maybe the places

757
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't get respect, which is not the NFL report, right, Steve.

758
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Speaker 2: Repeat, he is our MVP saying all season, well, well,

759
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: you know, Brock Purdy has full faith of that locker room.

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Speaker 8: I talked to Fred Warner last week. He told me

761
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Speaker 8: he doesn't know what brought. Priddy has to do more

762
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Speaker 8: to gain that national respect, and I think it's been

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Speaker 8: a somewhat of a galvanizing force in the locker room.

764
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Speaker 8: You saw Christian mccaff free, Deebo Samuel, even a defensive

765
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Speaker 8: lineman like Jabon Ginlaw posting on their social media chances

766
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Speaker 8: about channels about Rock Pretty winning the NFC Offensive Player

767
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 8: of the Week for the first time last week and

768
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Speaker 8: the support that he has there. And asked Pretty about

769
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Speaker 8: that after the game on Thursday, and he told me

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Speaker 8: that he appreciates the support, not just last week for

771
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Speaker 8: that successful game he had against Tampa Bay and now

772
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Speaker 8: that they've won three in a row, but really the

773
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Speaker 8: support that he had from the locker room, even during

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Speaker 8: the three game losing streak when so many people were

775
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 8: doubting his ability to play quarterback and questioning whether he

776
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Speaker 8: was truly the quarterback of the future of this team.

777
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Speaker 8: He said that he felt the love.

778
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Speaker 3: It's real.

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Speaker 8: It certainly galvanized them, and it's something that they're using

780
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Speaker 8: as a motivational force, it seems to me. And there's

781
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Speaker 8: nothing more dangerous than a talented team than a talented

782
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Speaker 8: team that is motivated, and there certainly are that the

783
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Speaker 8: San Francisco forty nine ers are as they head to

784
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Speaker 8: Philadelphia behind that chip on their shoulder that they collectively

785
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 8: feel about brock Perty Now.

786
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Speaker 2: Oh, Mary, you talk about team's got a chip on

787
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: its shoulder and it's motivated the Los Angeles Rams, Right,

788
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: this is a team we saw start out and we

789
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Speaker 2: were like, Okay.

790
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Speaker 3: This team's gonna be better than what we thought.

791
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Speaker 2: Then they kind of hit this kid. They've had some

792
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: quarterback injury. Sheu's Matthew Stafford gets hurt. He's back, Omar,

793
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Speaker 2: You and I were at the game last week when

794
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: he just looked absolutely fantastic and healthy. Then't they come

795
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Speaker 2: out and they put another beat down, folks on the

796
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Speaker 2: podcast you can't see you, that's my beatdown. They put

797
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Speaker 2: it on the Arizona Cardinals yesterday with the return of

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Speaker 2: running back Hian.

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Speaker 3: Williams from ir This is a dangerous team.

800
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Speaker 2: Now, in fact, to the point where they put themselves

801
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: back in playoff contention in the NFC. What were some

802
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Speaker 2: of the things that were coming out of the locker

803
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Speaker 2: room in Arizona yesterday from the Rams.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is an interesting dynamic with the Los Angeles

805
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Speaker 8: Rams because you have Super Bowl MVP in Cooper Cup,

806
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Speaker 8: you have Super Bowl quarterback champion Matthew Stafford, the all everything,

807
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 8: Aaron Donald, first ballot Hall of Famer, guys who have

808
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 8: won so many games over the years, with Sean McVay

809
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 8: and the La Rams, and I asked each of them

810
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Speaker 8: how it feels to maybe be excited about being one

811
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Speaker 8: game out of the playoffs for all they've accomplished, and

812
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Speaker 8: they all gave the answer that Sean McVeigh gave keeping

813
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Speaker 8: it one game at a time, one day at a time,

814
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Speaker 8: and continuing to build. But then at the other side

815
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Speaker 8: of the locker room, we have all that young players,

816
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 8: and Steve you followed this team as closely as anybody,

817
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 8: all the growth and talk of development the last couple

818
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Speaker 8: of years. And to see a guy like Kobe Turner,

819
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Speaker 8: a second year defensive lineman, with two sacks yesterday, I

820
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Speaker 8: asked Aaron Donald about that and he just beamed with

821
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Speaker 8: so much pride, had a huge smile on his face

822
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Speaker 8: as he's excited that they can win a lot of

823
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Speaker 8: games because Aaron Donald's still getting triple teams here week

824
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Speaker 8: in and week out, and if a guy like Kobe

825
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 8: Turner is going to step up with two sacks, they

826
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Speaker 8: had four on the day on Kyler Murray. The real

827
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Speaker 8: excitement not so much at how close they are to

828
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Speaker 8: the playoffs. Their one game out said they have that

829
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Speaker 8: tie breaker over Seattle having swept them in the regular season.

830
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Speaker 8: Thus part if they're able to finish there, the excitement

831
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Speaker 8: is the development and the real time growth that they're

832
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Speaker 8: seeing from these younger players to actually be in this conversation,

833
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Speaker 8: to be in the hunt.

834
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Speaker 5: And Sean McVay said, they've.

835
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Speaker 8: Earned the right to now play meaningful games in December,

836
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Speaker 8: and they have to keep it up to play meaningful

837
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Speaker 8: games into January. So it's an interesting dynamic here with

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Speaker 8: the Rams. You have all those established veterans, you have

839
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Speaker 8: these new breed of leaders in the locker room like

840
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Speaker 8: Ernest Jones, all coming together seemingly at the right time

841
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Speaker 8: for the La Rams.

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Speaker 5: It's awesome, it's cool.

843
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Speaker 1: And also with the dead money going away guys and

844
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Speaker 1: looking into next year, how it carries over for a way,

845
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Speaker 1: Guys like Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 5: Might be on the fence going we might have something

847
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Speaker 5: going here. I think I'm sticking I'm sticking around. I

848
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Speaker 5: love it.

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Speaker 1: Oh maar, appreciate it, buddy goodness, see it?

850
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Speaker 3: And one more point, yeah, well go ahead quick.

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 8: One more point on all that of all the teams

853
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 8: that are in that hunt with the Rams, you look

854
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 8: at the quarterback situation, Matthew Stafford by far and away

855
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 8: is the best quarterback there.

856
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Speaker 5: So as you look toward the rest.

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Speaker 3: Of the season.

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Speaker 8: Steve mentioned that the two scoring drives he led in

859
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Speaker 8: the fourth quarter last week four touchdowns yesterday against the Cardinals,

860
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 8: Matthew Stafford could be you know, the ace and the

861
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Speaker 8: hole there as they come down the stretch.

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Speaker 5: Great point, Omar, great point. Love it appreciated, buddy. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm here for. That's why we love having

864
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Speaker 5: you on. Coming up on the NFL Report, Jeff Shadea.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, it's his first read column, and why not

866
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Speaker 1: talk about the city he lives in, Kansas City.

867
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Speaker 5: The chiefs, Oh, there's no problem in Kansas City. Why

868
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 5: are we all panicking or coming up in the NFL Report.

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Speaker 1: We welcome back into the NFL Report, James Palmer and

870
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: Steve Witch and Jeff Shadeah because it's Monday, and this

871
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: is when we get into it with Jeff in his

872
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: first read. This is when Steve tells you everything he

873
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: dislikes about your column. We gotta start because I teased

874
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: it before we got into this, and we're in your column.

875
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: You're talking about the case for the case against kind

876
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: of teams you trust going down the line, I'm looking

877
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Speaker 1: at number two right there. We'll get to number one,

878
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: but I'm looking at number two with the Kansas City cheap.

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Speaker 1: We were in panic mode after Monday night. What was

880
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Speaker 1: the city sinking?

881
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Speaker 5: And now everybody's fine this Monday.

882
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 9: It's amazing what an AFC West opponent can do for you.

883
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 9: I always seem to look much better after the Chargers

884
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 9: go on the schedule, after the Raiders show up, the Broncos,

885
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 9: everything's right.

886
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, it looked better. That's that's the

887
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 5: big thing.

888
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 9: Especially offensively, where you saw some of the change people

889
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 9: had been hoping to see over the last whatever it's

890
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 9: been three four weeks. Where you saw a simpler game plan,

891
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 9: you saw the ball coming out quickly, you saw shorter

892
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 9: rouse guy like Rashia riis there, getting a lot more

893
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 9: shadow crosses and hitch and get the ball into the

894
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 9: hands type plays. And so that's where they really have

895
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 9: to go with this passing game right now, because you know,

896
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 9: still there's some questions about what Kadarius Tony who didn't

897
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Speaker 9: play can Do and sky Mood and the other guys.

898
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 5: I was surprised that the.

899
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 9: Raiders didn't take Travis Kelcey away like every other defense

900
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 9: is done over the last month, but certainly encouraging science

901
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 9: Rashier Rice go over one hundred yards the running game

902
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 9: being proficient and getting over thirty points.

903
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he mentioned Travis Kelcey. He came back big.

904
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: You know, I think they got a break too because

905
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: the Raiders Max Crosby, he was he was limited here.

906
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: But Jeff, another team that you have on this list

907
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: should be number one. Baltimore Ravens. I mean, we saw

908
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: them come out that game against the Chargers was actually

909
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: a really good game. They got four takeaways and they

910
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: have problems getting the ball into the end zone.

911
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: But as you say in here, make the case for

912
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: the Ravens as.

913
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Speaker 2: To why they'll probably be the number one team that

914
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: the AFC could be going through.

915
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 9: Baltimore most complete team in football. I mean, for my money,

916
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 9: you look at their offense, their number six and scoring.

917
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 9: You look at their defense, they're number two in scoring,

918
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 9: and I know they get a lot of flak because

919
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 9: they haven't.

920
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: Made a deep playoff run.

921
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: Haven't won a.

922
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 9: Championship with Lamar Jackson. This is the best they've looked

923
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 9: since he's been there as far as what they can do,

924
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 9: the variety of offense, the passing game, you sell, the

925
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 9: weapons they have with they flowers, can do you see

926
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 9: him here? Can you score on touchdown as well? In

927
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 9: this contest? And I feel like they understand the gravity

928
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 9: of the moment that they may never have a shot

929
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 9: as good as this one to get that top seed again,

930
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 9: to have that home field advantage. It's so crucial in

931
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 9: the way this AFC is tacking up to have those

932
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 9: two games at home, to have that first round by

933
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 9: and they're the driver's seat right now if they're able

934
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Speaker 9: to keep winning.

935
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: I know Chiefs have the tiebreaker, but they have to

936
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 5: play Buffalo.

937
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 9: They got to play the Packers by ableys have a

938
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 9: tougher schedule, but again, I feel like they're a more

939
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 9: equipped team.

940
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 5: To go get that number one seed.

941
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, Jeff, when I look at your third team,

942
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: I want to push it forward real quick.

943
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 5: It wasn't what we're gonna talk about, guys, but I'm curious.

944
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: I said this to Steve earlier that There is a

945
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: chance that the Jacksonville Jaguar could wind up with the

946
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC if you look at

947
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: what the remaining schedule is, or of their last six

948
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: opponents have losing record, and one of the two teams

949
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: that hasn't winning record are the Browns without Deshaun Watson.

950
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: How much faith I know you have them as third,

951
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: but if they wind up in that number one seed,

952
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: what would your thought be on the Jacksonville.

953
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 9: Jack They would feel a lot like the Tennessee Titans

954
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 9: felt a few years ago when they got the top

955
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 9: seed and then the Bengals beat them in the optional round.

956
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 9: Because for me, good like Jacksonville. What's worried me about

957
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 9: Jacksonville is you don't see them being dominant in the

958
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 9: way you've seen the Ravens be dominator.

959
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 5: You know the Chiefs can be dominant.

960
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: Even in Miami.

961
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 9: That seventy point game was a long time ago against Denver,

962
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 9: but you know they have a ceiling there that they

963
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 9: can hit. And with Jacksonville, it just feels as if

964
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 9: Trevor Lawrence is good but not great defense solid.

965
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 5: This is two weeks in a row.

966
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: It's just two weeks in a Row.

967
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 5: Jeff n Trevor Lawrence.

968
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Yep it was Thanksgiving week, it was

969
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: Travis Yep.

970
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I'm just saying, well done stretch last year.

971
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 5: But they got a great schedule. That's part of this.

972
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 5: That's why Miami's in in the in this as well.

973
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 9: They have three easy games coming up, and momentum is

974
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 9: a big thing at the end of the year.

975
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, very well done to re Jeff to his first

976
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: go to NFL dot Com Slash first read JP didn't.

977
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: Mean a battle a lot of adversity this year, but

978
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: it was there.

979
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: When we come back, we're.

980
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: Gonna talk about some lost headlines, some things that got

981
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: overshadowed by the big play of others.

982
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: That's coming up on the NFL Report.

983
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: We are back at the NFL Report and JP as

984
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: you wrap this up on Mondays, you know, we we

985
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: love to spend the show talking about some with great performances,

986
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: but also some of the performances.

987
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: That got overlooked.

988
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: And I want to go back to that Texans Jaguars game,

989
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: and I want to give some props to the Jaguars

990
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: across the board.

991
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: Their offensive line.

992
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: They did not let Trevor Lawrence get sacked in this game,

993
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: which made him look so good. And there were so

994
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: many times, especially in the red zone, where he was clean,

995
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: which leave he's my next Ploat.

996
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley was absolutely fantastic. That was the player we

997
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 3: have been waiting to see in that game. He was

998
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: getting shadowed a lot in that game.

999
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: And lastly, defensive end Josh Allen two and a half sacks,

1000
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: one of them coming on the final drive by the

1001
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: Texans which resulted in a significant loss, which also led

1002
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: to them taking that fifty nine yard field goal that

1003
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: jointed off the crossbar. Had he not gotten that sack,

1004
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: the way Houston was rolling, they might have got closer

1005
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: and an opportunity to score a touchdown.

1006
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: Nice to hear somebody giving Trevor Lawrence some love on

1007
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: this show now that.

1008
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 5: Jeffs has kicked rocks and he's no longer again segment.

1009
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: Again, I'm gonna move to the game that I had Steve,

1010
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna look at two players. We had great

1011
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: quarterback play, we had great skill position play. How about

1012
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: the two young interior defensive linemen with the Philadelphi Eagles

1013
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: and Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter played more snaps than

1014
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: they have ever played in their career. We know they

1015
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: rotate up front. We know how good Fletcher Cox is,

1016
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: we know how good Milton Williams is. He's one of

1017
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: the better guys. Actually on first and second down.

1018
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 5: You talk to guys.

1019
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: I was talking to Darius lay About in the locker room,

1020
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: just how good the defensive tackle play is for them

1021
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: in front of those two rookies that allow them to

1022
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: go after the quarterback on third down. They played a

1023
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: ton of snaps. Josh Wett told me the Jalen Carter

1024
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: he uses moves that are like used by defensive interior

1025
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: lineman like twenty thirty years ago. He's like, he is

1026
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: killing dudes with these old school moves, and they're gonna

1027
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: have to rely on these guys. We'll see what happens

1028
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: with Fletcher Cox and his groin injury.

1029
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 5: He couldn't finish that game.

1030
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: One of the toughest players in the league always finds

1031
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: a way to get on the field. These guys are

1032
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: gonna need to be relied on to play more snaps.

1033
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: They played really well against a good Bills offensive line

1034
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: and got consistent pressure. Unsung guys usually on the enderior

1035
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: portion of the defensive line a lot in this league.

1036
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 5: Steve, I'm gonna give two young guys that were actually

1037
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 5: at a lot of questions.

1038
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: About them coming into the NFL on what their character

1039
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: was and who they were as players in terms of effort,

1040
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: those have not been questioned at all here this season

1041
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia.

1042
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm glad you pointed that out because Baldi R Brian Baldinger,

1043
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: who'll be joining us on Thursday, has a great breakdown

1044
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: of Jordan Davis actually doing a Reggie White hump move

1045
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: where he gets under the offensive lineman and tries to

1046
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: go awsom. So you talk about twenty thirty years ago

1047
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: when you're going after a stud Hall of Fame or

1048
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: first ballot guy, that's how you do it.

1049
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: Also lost in.

1050
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: Some of this because we didn't get to talk to

1051
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: Falcons because I had to give Jeff Toea sub Michigan time,

1052
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: was their offensive line play, especially Chris Linstrom and Kayla

1053
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: McGarry on the right side. I mean what they were

1054
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: doing at the end of that game against New Orleans

1055
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: for Tyler Algier and Bejon Robinson to run out the

1056
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: clock for Atlanta to beat their rival and to take

1057
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 2: the lead in the NFC South.

1058
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: That was overly impressive. But JP coming up on Thursday.

1059
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: Speaking of those Falcons, we're gonna have safety.

1060
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: Jesse Bates joining us here on the NFL Report.

1061
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 3: We saw him at that ninety two yard pick six.

1062
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: He also has a great my cause my cleats that

1063
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: we are going to hear about.

1064
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: Great job, JP.

1065
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: Please get home from Philadelphia safely, listen to the podcast,

1066
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: rate us, let us know what's up, and we'll be

1067
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: back Thursday on the NFL Report