WEBVTT - Old Faithful with Dylan Efron 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:05.000 Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.240 Hello, everybody, we are scrubbing. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:16.040 It grub a dub dub with a Efron and the tub. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:23.160 A dream, Yes, high school Fantasy the Tub. Yes, honestly, 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.600 we are so excited about this having Dylan Efron on 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:28.160 our podcast. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:28.400 Yes. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.560 I mean he's a digital creator and adventure enthusiast. But 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.640 to me, he stole the show in season three of 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.240 The Traders as a Faithful, as a Faithful and spoiler alert. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:38.559 They won. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:39.400 Yeah, he won. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:40.680 He's one of the winners. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:41.760 Yes, let's bring him on in. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.840 Let's bring him on in. Everyone welcome Dylan Ephron. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:54.120 Okay, we amportant question before we jump right in. Who 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:59.320 on your team is a scrubber? Oh, there's gotta be 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.440 someone on your team because the word on the street 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.920 is that we were the lucky podcast to get you. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.360 And I was like, there's got to be someone on 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:07.800 his team. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.559 Maybe a good podcast. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:22.000 Tanya okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:23.440 I wish I had answer. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:26.640 It's me. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.600 I've been No. I'm behind on podcasts because I switched 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.960 to audio books. I did all the a Qatar and 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.280 Fourth Wing. So I like, I've heard about this. Yeah, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.560 I switched all that, like all my audiobooks, our podcast 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.240 around pause now for these audio books. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.000 Okay, I have a question since we're jumping right into that, 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:48.640 because that was one of my questions. I've heard that 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.280 you're into the Fourth Wing series. As someone I don't 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.040 really like fantasy and dragons and stuff, but people are 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.480 obsessed with the series. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:58.960 If you were to give an elevator pitch to. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.360 Someone who has no end trist, what what is your 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:03.120 elevator pitch? 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:04.040 Oh? 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:11.520 Yeah, it's got that like Hunger Games level of like 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:17.240 a fictional world in a way, so like and yeah, 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.360 and Harry Potter. Okay, there it is like a Harry 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.640 Potter like they go to Hogwarts. It's kind of like 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.640 that with dragons, a lot of sex. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.280 Okay, so you don't like Harry Potter. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.400 Yeah, if you don't like Harry Potter, you're probably not 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:30.799 book that has. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:31.840 Like a million pages. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:34.239 No, they're good. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.200 They're just a good sized novel to just the traditional novels. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.359 It's not like like what's what's the one that was 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.840 just made into a movie. Game of Thrones. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:47.600 Yeah, I was like, somebody try to get me to 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.480 read this book and then literally it was like this thick. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:55.520 I was like audio, do you have any I know 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.160 that there have been roles that you audition for in 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.040 traditional acting, in the acting. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.400 World on I've only auditioned once, just once, Yeah, Star Wars. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:04.000 Star Wars. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.600 Was it where you just like, well, I have to 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.200 do it because I. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.280 Yeah, this is back when I work to Warner Brothers. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.240 I specifically got asked to audition because they were looking 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.600 for someone who wasn't an actor relatively unknown, and I 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.760 said no. And then I'm like working my nine to 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.000 five and a coworker, Emanual was just like I told them, 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.320 like yeah, oh, it was like, oh, they're still casting 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:27.679 that movie. I was like they reached out to me 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.079 like two months ago, and he's like and you said no, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.359 And I was just like why, It's like you're dyling 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.720 and you just like gave me this like pitch, like 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.040 you're an idiot, Like if they asked for you, you 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.440 should have gone. So then I ended up asking my 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.480 brother's manager at the time. I was just like, hey, 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.520 are they still casting that? They were. I walked in 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.720 and was like I had to memorize lines for the 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.600 first time and stuff, and it went really well. It 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.560 was actually super fun. The casting people love me. And 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.880 then I had the classic experience where they were like, oh, 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.280 we're taking the role a different way, which actually blew 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.800 my mind because so I was like, there's no way 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.720 that they tell everyone what they told me because they 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.680 were so nice to me. They were like, that was 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.480 the best one of the day. We loved it. And 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.600 then all of a sudden they were like, we're taking 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.160 this character a different direction, which, in all fairness, they 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:17.839 went a very different direction with the character. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:19.440 Yeah, they weren't lying to you. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.560 They weren't lying at all. I saw the person that 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.560 was cast and he's a different ethnicity and from y 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.040 he from the UK. It was very very different than me. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.440 So they really did take the character a different way. 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.680 That takes me back to my time when I was 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.320 being cast for The Bachelor and I went up to 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.880 meet the casting producers and they were like, we see 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.120 you going so far. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.920 And I was like hyped up. I was like, there's 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.440 no way they to say that to everyone. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.000 Yeah, and then I got dumped in a barn in Iowa, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.400 and I was like, dang. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:53.520 I did get far though it's just not the farthest. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:58.960 So transitioning into reality TV. I'm fascinated by this because 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.800 watching The Trader you we watched. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:02.560 We've watched like. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.240 A bunch of seasons where it was the UK and 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.039 the Australian version, which are just like normal people, right, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:09.040 and so. 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:14.320 I've literally seen every season of every country that they offer. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:14.840 Love. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.000 Yeah, my favorites are the Australian season too. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.719 The Australian season two in the ending is the one 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:22.800 that out. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:29.240 Yeah, yeah, that ending was awesome, and the UK season 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:30.080 two is awesome too. 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.280 I like that like a Netherlands one. 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:33.760 I think there's so many countries. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.840 Yeah, literally we've watched all of them. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.600 People tell me I need to watch like the Polish 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.640 one or something like that. They were Scandinavia or something. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:42.640 One other one I can't remember. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.520 There's one country that they're like, if you can read subtitles, 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:47.560 which I can. 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:54.240 Audio version, I could. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.720 Definitely do that. They were like the strategy in that 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.600 game is next to like the other ones are just cakewalk. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.320 They're like strategy and this one is cutthrow and it's 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.960 a whole different game. I'm like, all right, I'm into that. Yeah, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:09.120 I want to start that well. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.359 So when when you come on the celebrity version for 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.320 the US, it was interesting because everyone on the cast 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.039 we've seen in some sort of version of a reality 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.120 TV show, So whether it was a competition series or 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.360 reality dating show, Like we've kind of know these people, 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.680 but we know you just from like I feel like 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.000 i've this is a confession, but I feel like I 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.040 folowed you for a long time just for yeah, and 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.159 I feel like people knew you, but like no one 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.200 knew you in a way that we knew like your 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.440 strategy or how you your personality, how you were going 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.280 to go in terms of the game. So was that 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.320 fun for you going on like kind of being like 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:48.599 a newbie, Yeah, it. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.480 Was fun, nerve wrecking, it was everything because it was 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.280 a huge advantage that no one knows who I am. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.520 Like Boston Robb, everyone knows who everyone knows he's cutthroat, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.960 So no one knows who I am. And my authentic 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:04.240 personality is like I'm friendly and I'm practical, and like 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.840 I have a good like sense of relationships, So like 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.600 I knew I was gonna figure it out in there 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.120 and make a lot of friends and a lot of 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.480 good relationships. So It was a blessing me just because 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.320 I was able to fly into the radar. Yeah, when 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.480 the cast was announced that everyone's like so excited. They're saying, 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:26.080 like winners of the season are gonna be Wes or Carolyn, 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.360 like they all knew them and they were already favorites. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.920 I was done with Sam as Gary where it's like 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.800 why were these two people cast? So it was fun 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.760 because I get home from Scotland and I like listen 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.960 to a few podcasts where they're like just saying who's 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.760 gonna win, And it was always just like Dylan Efron, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:46.400 what the heck? 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.080 Like, well, yeah, yeah, I didn't understand like the time. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.320 So when they cast you, they don't tell you who 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.640 else is cast. They just say you're on it. Did 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.840 they have like you were like you were a fan 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.320 of the show. When you like audition, do you audition? 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.200 Yes? So i'd only watched season two of UK. I 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:02.840 did not audition. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:03.000 No. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.680 It was Dina Katz at NBC. She's likes I owe 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:08.640 her so much. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.960 For taking Dancing with the Stars too, right, I think? 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.080 So yeah, yeah, okay, but yeah, like they took a 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.720 risk on me for sure, Like I was definitely one 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.960 of the people on the cast where they're like this 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:22.000 is either going to work out well or it's he 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:23.760 is going to be what everyone thinks and he's going 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.320 to be eliminated first and it won't affect this. So 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.760 like they took a risk on me, and I'm so 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:30.200 so grateful to them. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.120 For doing Okay, So they're like, you're on, You're on 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.880 the next season. When from that point on, when they 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.120 say that you're on, when do you then go, like 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:37.800 to the castle. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.640 I was busy because I was in Australia shooting something 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.920 with my brother. I was like doing social media stuff, 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.280 so like I knew, I knew the offer was there. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.360 So in the background, I was like watching some other seasons. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.280 I watched the Australia season two in UK and I 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.520 was like, oh, okay, I actually do want to do this. 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:03.160 So I committed maybe a month before going, and in 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.360 that month, I'm telling you, I was like rock climbing 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.400 in Moab. I was in Australia. I was playing Jimmy 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.280 Fallon's golf tournament. I didn't prep at all, Like while 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.280 everyone's getting their outfits ready, I was playing golf in Jimmy. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.360 I have like so many questions. So like, okay, so 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.240 I thought that they like dressed you like that you 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.040 always had to like pick from clothes in the castle everybody. 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:26.640 This is also broad, yes. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.800 And trusting, Like I'm wearing a tank top right now, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.760 Like I was not ready for that, Like I love fashion, 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.520 but I live in California, so most of the time 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:37.760 I'm in a board towards So like now it's I said, yes, 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.640 a month, I'm traveling. I've got probably a week to 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.800 go through my wardrobe and figure this out. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.240 And like and then how long is your time in 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.400 like if you make it from like the beginning to 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.680 the end, what's like the time of Like it's one 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:50.439 month pretty much. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.280 Yeah, it's a long time without my phone, without without 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:55.240 talking to anyone. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.360 Really, do you get to watch TV? 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:58.720 Daytime TV? 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.000 So do you just listen to me? 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.079 No, you don't get any Like you don't get Netflix, 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.280 you don't get anything. It's daytime television. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:07.920 So you're watching like what the like? 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.080 No, So I'm watching the best one was Everybody Loves Raymond, 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.800 Like I had watched it in the past. Now I've 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.600 watched pretty much all all of them. It's a great show. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:22.520 I watched him get older as I watched. I watched Fraser, 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.560 which I'm not that like. That was like like kill 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.960 me time, Like when Fraser's on and I've got nothing 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.679 to do, That's that's when I would go work out 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:35.600 or do some setups. Then Love Island came out maybe 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.559 week four, like episode four or five. Love Island came 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.120 out the UK version, and I was so excited. 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:44.640 Season that's that's my favorite show. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.480 It was the most recent season, no the one before that. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.400 I guess, okay, okay, it wasn't a good season. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.480 So bad, so bad. So it was so disappointed and 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.920 finish it and I'm like, die hard. 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.120 It was bad. It was the first time where I 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.000 watched it was like they to switch the show up 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.920 because it's it's broken now. They're all ye. 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:07.280 So I actually switched from UK the USA that season amazing. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.160 I think it was the people in the UK version 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.760 were too young this time, and they all sounded the same. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.200 It was the same like West Essex and they all 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.640 looked the same. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.520 The guys and the girls. I was like, I can't even. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.520 It was very I'm so glad you had that. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.920 I was very excited and very let down. Went back to. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.439 Everybody loves m How much downtime do you have? 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.360 Not a lot? They give it to you when you 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.400 need it. So it's like we would go through a day, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.720 a few days of very little sleep, and then they 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.480 could just tell when we show up to set our 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.679 energies low. I was sick almost four of the episodes 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.680 that you can hear me, like if you watched it again, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.640 you might notice it. But like I, I was sick 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.160 like the Sierra vo I couldn't actually talk that day 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.160 and I was sniffling, so like I, we went through 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.079 the ringer out there. It was cold, but yeah, they 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.600 if they could tell everybody was in rough shape, they'd 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.040 give us a rest day. So we had. They took 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.000 care of us in that way. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.600 Did you do you all sleep in the house. 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:19.200 Yes, they like the castles were like whatever everything happens, 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:20.800 and that they don't actually sleep in the castle. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:22.440 Well, because he said when we should have set. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:29.319 There's a lot of rumors out there, like the. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.160 Shots that they shoot of you guys, like in the bathtub, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:33.640 like when they're trying to vote you out and stuff 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:35.360 that's all like pre done. You're not like actually doing 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:35.920 that before bed. 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.000 It's like a scene. Yeah, like maybe on an off 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.000 day they would call call, Yeah, we'd have to go 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:46.000 do some stuff. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.000 Yeah. Like because when we watched I watch it with 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.280 my step kids and they're like, why is he doing 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:54.520 like pull up? Like why is she doing this? I'm like, 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.960 it's not really like they're not actually doing this. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.720 I knew those scenes were in there. I'm like, they're 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.960 gonna I could do something. I was the only one 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.280 I was going to say no to. You've see my instagram. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.400 I'm not bashful with my shirt off and stuff. But 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.840 I was like, I don't really want to take a shower. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:13.360 Luckily Sara was like, I'll do the shower. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.840 Sam said, this is my moment tomed at a bath. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.880 They got the bad ones. I just got to work out. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:21.719 It's great. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.120 When you were chosen to be on the show, were 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.520 you hoping that you'd be a trader or faithful? 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:41.920 Faithful? 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:42.560 Really? 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.240 But it was a weird spot because like I've I've 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:49.240 played Mafia before, like and I know I don't enjoy 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.959 being a trader as much, but it's that's the beauty 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.040 of games. Is supposed to be random. So like I 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:55.559 didn't want to go in there and ruin the game 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.520 and be like, I will only go if I'm a faithful. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.640 So I wanted to be a faithful But even when 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.560 I'm talking to Alan, I'm like, yeah, I would be 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.520 a trader if you make me one, but I did 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:05.400 not want to be one. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.960 So if Danielle had recruited you, I. 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.680 Would have had to Oh, that would have beenn ultimatum, 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.640 would have gone home. Yeah, I either would have left, 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.600 which a fat chance I'm doing that. I'm too competitive 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:17.000 to leave it. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.040 Yeah, well there was that. 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:20.800 There was that moment because I know there's been a 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.360 lot of comparison with Pilot Pete where he was chosen 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:25.160 and said no. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.600 Yeah, So that one wasn't an ultimatum. So and this 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.160 is where the rules get crazy. It's like earlier in 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.240 the season, if they recruit, if they recruit, it's not 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.240 an ultimatum, and you can say yes or no. And 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.680 if if Pilot Pete would have said yes, then there's 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.400 no murder that night. Yeah, But for an ultimatum, which 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.560 only happens at the very end, when there's one trader left, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.960 you can still murder that night. Does that make sense? 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.760 So that that's why Tom, That's why Tom was murdered, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.000 but Brittany was recruited because it was an ultimatum he had. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.560 She had to say yes, where Pilot Pete didn't have 0:14:58.640 --> 0:14:59.160 to say yes. 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.040 Oh that's right, Yeah he was. He didn't have to 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:03.840 risk the murder of it of it all. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.000 Yeah, you were saying that you and Tom kind of 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.360 figured out that it was Danielle. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.360 It was the night after when Krishelle went home. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.680 Right, that was when it's our brain started clicking. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:14.400 Were you? 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.240 Because I was like, from the beginning, you were so 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.280 locked in, like you had Bob the Drag Queen so fat. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.840 Then I got like so frustrated with you because I 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.720 was like he was so good, and then I was 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:29.520 like Dylan bamboozled by Danielle. 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.000 It's tough because I was bamboos like there's no arguing that. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.080 But it was also like, since I got Bob the 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.760 Drag Queen, it wasn't my best interest to like take 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.680 more of a back seat because now the only way 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.680 I'm going home is if I'm murdered. No one was 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.560 going to banish me after that because it was like 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.080 so clear I was a faithful I was the only 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.400 one going after Bob. Bob the drag queen. So it's 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.000 like a trader. Wouldn't Traine turn on a trader episode 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.640 one or episode two? When I decided to go after it, Yeah, 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.000 it was like so everyone there knew I was a 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.320 faithful It was such a good spot. So it was like, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.840 I just was working on my relationships a lot. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.160 How do you trust anybody like I would? 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.320 Don't you don't? Like I thought Gabby was a trader, 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.600 so I was saying her name. I thought Bob h was, 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.640 but I never said his name, Like I was wrong 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.560 in the middle a lot. It's a tough game. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.360 Yeah, it feels really challenging. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.760 And also if there was a season where the traders 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.720 would trade on each other episode one or two, it 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:29.360 would have been the. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:30.800 Cast of this season. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:32.280 Yes, totally, because. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.160 There were so many episodes where I was like, why 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.880 are they just like battling it out so aggressively with 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:38.360 each other? 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.680 Yeah, that's what happened. When like they put gamers up there, 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.480 it was like if I was up there, I wouldn't 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.680 My goal wouldn't be to get my fellow traders out. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.760 But they're all gamers. They know if they're the last 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.320 one standing, they can control the room. They can take 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.520 all the money at the end. So you put four 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.680 people out there that are all thinking that way, it's 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:58.520 gonna be a hostel. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.400 I'll soon into it. Do you feel like Boston Robb 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:02.120 was a trader? 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:02.440 Oh? 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.560 I didn't know he was a trader? You really know? 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:05.320 I didn't. 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:06.760 You never even suspected it. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.119 I didn't want to suspect. So that's the beauty of 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:14.639 this game is Like there's people like Bob, Bob the 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.600 drag Queen for me, wasn't in my core alliances. I 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.800 was very friendly with him. I really like him, but 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.639 he wasn't like, like I knew his core alliance was 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:26.160 Gabby Bob Age, Like he had people that he's always with. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.240 So like, for me, that's someone I can want. I 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.399 know there's four traders, that's one I can target. So 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.320 Boston rob he's probably the guy that I trust the most. 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.879 He helped me get a trader out and I know 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.639 he has my back after that, So why would I 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.080 try to get him out of this game? But that 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.879 that really is it? So everyone wants him out. Like 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.119 I'm hearing every day people saying Boston robbed the trader, 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.159 Like we need to get him out and I'm the 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.520 opposite voice because I was like, I don't want him 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.280 to leave this game, Like I know it's a numbers game. 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.280 Well, if you had gotten this seer, if you had 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.240 won this year, who would you have questioned? 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.880 Honestly, I think it would have been the Iver because 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.720 not because he was a trader, just because that's that 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.199 power is scary. So I would have used it on 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.000 someone that I knew as a faithful to just like 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.440 have one person that I know is a faithful and 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.920 not because imagine, let's say I got Brittany. Now I'm 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.960 saying she's a trader. She's going to say I'm a trader. Ye, 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.720 we're both screwed. So it's really like you have to 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.320 use that power to find the person that you want 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.160 to end the game with. And I would have probably 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.640 used them on Ivor or Gabby. 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:40.119