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Speaker 2: I will make some and I swear to God, this
Speaker 2: guy we got in the building tonight.
Speaker 1: I really searched and went through his whole catalog and
Speaker 1: I couldn't find an okay record. It always was banging
Speaker 1: this record and make babies to him. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that. I want to get to that.
Speaker 1: Everybody gotta make a baby behind this guy. But he
Speaker 1: makes he revolutionary. He revolutionary the hip hop to me
Speaker 1: in a way that excuse me. R and B and
Speaker 1: hip hop because he had melodies. He was right, it
Speaker 1: was almost like.
Speaker 2: He was writing it from a Rackers perspective. But there's
Speaker 2: one hundred I think he I think they're all his children.
Speaker 2: So the people don't know.
Speaker 1: Right now we are talking to the Dream and the building.
Speaker 1: How many babies you think was made to your music?
Speaker 2: He's like three million? You got got as many voted
Speaker 2: for Trump? God got me go there. So look dream, right,
Speaker 2: how did you develop that style?
Speaker 1: Because everybody is kind of somewhat mimicking what you do,
Speaker 1: Like you had melodies first in your music.
Speaker 2: You you appealed, all right, put it like this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, right, I really wasn't a big
Speaker 1: R and B fan, right, but there's certain people that's
Speaker 1: certain music.
Speaker 2: It was like they made it for me, not like
Speaker 2: you know. Like what I mean is it was easier
Speaker 2: for me to understand digest, easier for me to digest it.
Speaker 2: And you are one like I never heard a rap
Speaker 2: dream reackon ever? Thank you are you? Sure makes a
Speaker 2: noise that rapper though. My question saying so, yeah, how
Speaker 2: did so how did you develop that style? How do
Speaker 2: you think?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's both I think I think I think
Speaker 5: most R and B at the time was more offense.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's more defense, I guess I should say.
Speaker 5: And my and my ship was just more offensive like
Speaker 5: and that's how I kind of what I feel about
Speaker 5: rap Like, I feel like it's just high power offense
Speaker 5: all the time and the repercussions after that. So if
Speaker 5: you put that in football terminologies, it's like, let's have
Speaker 5: a fifty five to fifty game, like no defense, like
Speaker 5: to say, all the ship you need to say, and yeah,
Speaker 5: you're right. A lot of that just came from where
Speaker 5: I was, from West Side Atlanta. We grew up to
Speaker 5: be inspiring, you know, rappers at the time I came
Speaker 5: to nineties was my ship so to No No from.
Speaker 2: Atlanta, Georgia popping out exactly. So you got outcasts popping.
Speaker 5: You got exactly, you got goodie mob and everybody's everybody's
Speaker 5: kind of gravitating towards this Atlanta scene. And at the time,
Speaker 5: you know, freaquently was the biggest thing, like periods because
Speaker 5: it's like the center of the culture was in Atlanta
Speaker 5: for me, and I'm this teenager young growing up.
Speaker 2: Of course I want some champagne.
Speaker 6: So so.
Speaker 2: For me, it was easy to see us.
Speaker 5: Then Jermaine do Pre started riding around in Ferraris and
Speaker 5: ship Dallas Austin was getting it at that particular. A
Speaker 5: lot of people don't even know. And and when you
Speaker 5: saw that, you know, and being on the Bible belt
Speaker 5: is where the music part comes from. Like because you're
Speaker 5: in a place where Baptist Church.
Speaker 2: Is, you know, like we have singing ch anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a lot of like l singers. I
Speaker 1: noticed they started out in like church and like choiet
Speaker 1: period the church.
Speaker 2: That's that's your trama, that's your DeLeon, that's your Champagne.
Speaker 2: Cut my head, so get ahead, continued so so.
Speaker 5: So for me, it was just more so about let
Speaker 5: me take a sip. I gotta get Let's get it right.
Speaker 2: Let's get it right.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 2: That's that leon puff got that ship, you got it right?
Speaker 2: Support black over here?
Speaker 7: What was that?
Speaker 2: Atlanta, Atlanta seen seeing the church choir, the.
Speaker 5: Church choir everybody. So everybody's in the church anyway having
Speaker 5: a Ferrari. Yeah, everybody, everybody. Because because what really happened
Speaker 5: is l A. Reed came down to Atlanta and revolutionized
Speaker 5: what the what the music scene was.
Speaker 2: He he's motherfucker Cincinnati player, but some of us know
Speaker 2: from it's from Sin, He's from sit.
Speaker 5: But he just kind of showed the culture of Atlanta,
Speaker 5: I believe, for me how to get money.
Speaker 2: That was from place. Yes, that was a place because
Speaker 2: he had an infrastructure.
Speaker 5: There wasn't a place we could just go to, you
Speaker 5: know at the time Face when he opened it up,
Speaker 5: it was like whole ship. You take the records over there.
Speaker 5: And although I was too young to take him there,
Speaker 5: still it's like a back signal in the sky.
Speaker 2: It was the only place there. So for us, that
Speaker 2: was our death jam at the time. On the face, yes,
Speaker 2: of course that was the great. Yeah, so everything Atlanta
Speaker 2: came out originally, like in the nineties was like that.
Speaker 2: The face because baby Face is from Babyface is cast,
Speaker 2: came out through the fast, came out through the face.
Speaker 5: Goodie mob man you got and then you got the
Speaker 5: people who came after that. You got the T I
Speaker 5: S and I to get into that, Me and Tip,
Speaker 5: but yeah, definitely yeah, yeah. So but I'm saying in
Speaker 5: my group that was my influence, you know, looking at that,
Speaker 5: and that's what Tip looked at, you know.
Speaker 2: Me and Tip went to elementary school together.
Speaker 5: So so we're we're watching this ship and saying, oh, y'all,
Speaker 5: make hold up, whoa time out. We didn't know you
Speaker 5: could make that type of money from music. You know,
Speaker 5: everybody in New York knew that already, but everybody in
Speaker 5: l A knew that.
Speaker 2: Tip seemed like he only went to English class, he said, school,
Speaker 2: I'm taking English like that. I think I think that right.
Speaker 2: But New York, you know, they had the infrastructures.
Speaker 5: Hollywood is the same way, you know, especially with television
Speaker 5: and movies.
Speaker 2: In Atlanta was just this.
Speaker 5: You know, young church going cultural black thing happening. And
Speaker 5: we just found out that motherfuckers can get ferraris for
Speaker 5: for singing and dancing out.
Speaker 2: So let's go.
Speaker 1: I believe that the first time like people got to
Speaker 1: see your personality, like to show that you was hood
Speaker 1: was a time where you and.
Speaker 2: Jay Z accepted that and it was like you you
Speaker 2: walked up there, you.
Speaker 5: Were just like man, definitely like you, and the whole
Speaker 5: literally a slight joke, gotta be good.
Speaker 2: But he said, I like to think the swamp meat.
Speaker 5: And and that's the and that's the crazy thing about
Speaker 5: like me and his relationship that grew, you know, from
Speaker 5: a certain from from Umbrella, you know, that grew into
Speaker 5: this thing that that it's hard to think that, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not really the the like this is my guy
Speaker 5: you look on Instagram. I'm not like every time I
Speaker 5: with Jaylen's stefy time, you know, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 5: referring to him all the time. So so it's a
Speaker 5: little bit different. So when, of course, when we first said,
Speaker 5: everybody's like, damn though, you know, take us.
Speaker 2: I bet you like that, like that's whole, that's whole walk.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly. I'm like I probably had that coming
Speaker 2: from like five jokes ago.
Speaker 1: But you know, I seen whole one day and Hope
Speaker 1: just stopped me when he came out here, Diggles there
Speaker 1: whole said I.
Speaker 2: Would ask you how you're doing, but your glasses say
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 1: And I said, that was some funny shot. I didn't
Speaker 1: say it as good as he said it, but it
Speaker 1: was like, he's really a funny guy.
Speaker 5: I think you the humor at the top is there,
Speaker 5: like I think all of us are just you just
Speaker 5: naturally have to gravitate to a place, you know, ships
Speaker 5: sucked up.
Speaker 2: Out of here. So it's like you know, you better
Speaker 2: have something an album also a little she.
Speaker 1: Made me feel bad for every relationship ever did in life,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to call people and apologize.
Speaker 2: But she's talking about allot.
Speaker 1: While you crying. She's like she can say he records
Speaker 1: like she was like the way she was breaking down,
Speaker 1: she's like she was hurt.
Speaker 2: And it just made me think of that did in
Speaker 2: the past, like four years ago, and I still just
Speaker 2: want to say I'm sorry, Like are you over there? Took?
Speaker 2: It's R and B as you said earlier, defense, defensive, offensive, offensive,
Speaker 2: and so do you think because like because like it
Speaker 2: was like I remember at one point, like Mary J.
Speaker 1: Blize for example, Like as soon as you heard her
Speaker 1: go through tragedy, everybody would say the album gonna be fire,
Speaker 1: Like do an R and B person have to go
Speaker 1: through drama in order for the music to be like that?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 5: Speaking for myself as a songwriter, and I have to
Speaker 5: say that, like it doesn't matter which genre. MA like,
Speaker 5: it's it's a it's an animal that's hard to attain
Speaker 5: because we constantly need things to fuel that, you know, inspiration, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: And it's it's hard because you know, On one hand,
Speaker 5: you're having you know, people wanting you to live everyday
Speaker 5: life the exact same way, and then your life changes
Speaker 5: in multiple ways. First of all, you learn things that
Speaker 5: are that are different, even just from one stretch, going
Speaker 5: from oh, when I grew up, I was in Baptist Church,
Speaker 5: and now I'm questioning everything, everything that everybody does.
Speaker 2: But that's the writer in me.
Speaker 5: Like, and when you write, you don't you're basically you're
Speaker 5: basically inventing. The words are invented, the scenarios and all
Speaker 5: of the things that you're talking about is being invented.
Speaker 5: So you have to invent those situations to even talk about.
Speaker 5: Or you can talk about some ship that's old, which
Speaker 5: then somebody else's strategy. But but I think it's such
Speaker 5: a it's such a hard animal, you know, to tame,
Speaker 5: like like really, you know, I say that with the
Speaker 5: utmost respect for all the great writers. They have to
Speaker 5: go through, You have to go through something. You see
Speaker 5: these movies, you know it's all inspired by something. Yeah, well,
Speaker 5: you can't want, you know, the heart and soul from
Speaker 5: somebody without them pouring out the best because of pain.
Speaker 2: Of course, how did you write Umbrella? It was just
Speaker 2: raining man, no umbrella. You was like, Man, I definitely
Speaker 2: bought after that.
Speaker 1: It don't so because like that always amazes me. You know, one,
Speaker 1: I know about all the most of the songwriter you do.
Speaker 1: And and for you to step out yourself and jump
Speaker 1: into another artist song.
Speaker 2: Not only just any artists of the friend sex. Man,
Speaker 2: how do you do that?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: You know it's it's I'm like ninety nine people. My
Speaker 5: my wife witnesses it all the time. I know she
Speaker 5: doesn't really admit it. I know I can be Beyonce
Speaker 5: when I wake up, I'm Rion about three o'clock, I'm
Speaker 5: Jay and pushing about seven or eight, and then nine
Speaker 5: I'm Celene the then twelve, Like, let's write.
Speaker 2: You ever Kanye West? Oh, if you ever went Kanye West?
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: It's a joke because because someone said that everybody I
Speaker 1: was trying to you know, it didn't work, It didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But so how did you get that? As on?
Speaker 2: Like what was you doing? I think it was just
Speaker 2: the I think it was just time.
Speaker 5: You know, I had my first daughter at that time,
Speaker 5: and I think it was time for me to start
Speaker 5: fucking and fucking around and playing with myself and where
Speaker 5: I needed.
Speaker 2: To go and I just turned on a different thing.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just like a It's like a switch. Just I
Speaker 2: knew how to do what I needed to do.
Speaker 5: But I've always is done better with pressure, and that
Speaker 5: song was just out of pure pressure in life and
Speaker 5: not really just about being broken not having certain things.
Speaker 5: You know, I was okay then I had I can
Speaker 5: say that I had a music career at that particular
Speaker 5: point in time.
Speaker 2: I was getting the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah it's a writer. I was getting checked out of
Speaker 5: the game. I had a publishing deal. But it was
Speaker 5: just one of those things where it clicked and and
Speaker 5: when you can see it, it's almost like having an
Speaker 5: out of body experience.
Speaker 2: I watched myself walk in and write that record, and
Speaker 2: you no.
Speaker 5: The record was wrote originally for Britney Spears. If anybody
Speaker 5: remembers the Umbrella incident, I think it was. I don't
Speaker 5: know if she was If.
Speaker 2: Britney Spears would have fit on Umbro who She's gonna
Speaker 2: put on? Because she who would?
Speaker 5: But you worked on Britain That's where it came from.
Speaker 5: I worked on a record called Me Against the Music
Speaker 5: that featured Madonna at the time.
Speaker 2: Earlier on so We're so happy for you. Brother Michael
Speaker 2: Jackson did the moonwalk in the session. Hilarious.
Speaker 3: No, but but I was.
Speaker 2: It was already a relationship there. So in this game,
Speaker 2: you know, the best chance to be in Brittany Spears record,
Speaker 2: to be on the record.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a whole another thing. And I sent it
Speaker 5: in a person that is my good friend. Now I
Speaker 5: won't throw her under the bus, but she just I
Speaker 5: sent it to Brittany's people, and one of the people
Speaker 5: who got the record actually is a good.
Speaker 2: Friend of mine. Now we work really really close. But
Speaker 2: at that time told me wasn't a hit record. That
Speaker 2: was the word I got back. I wasn't a hit
Speaker 2: She's not there, he's probably not gonna get that's my
Speaker 2: boot and and it just grew on from there. I'm like,
Speaker 2: fuck that.
Speaker 5: I don't know what she's talking about. She's smoking something
Speaker 5: like she's high, or she's in fear of losing her job.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: And literally after that the record was heard. It's kind
Speaker 5: of crazy how this story happened. Me and Tricky Stewart
Speaker 5: did the record, but the record got from Atlanta. It
Speaker 5: was just a peep of it and got heard at
Speaker 5: death Jam by La Reed, and he sent a good
Speaker 5: friend of mine now her name is Karen Quaark down
Speaker 5: down to retrieve the record. She's like, who the fuck
Speaker 5: is right this shit?
Speaker 2: Who is it?
Speaker 5: And at the time, you know, I was the young guy,
Speaker 5: didn't have no super big placement, so nobody knew who
Speaker 5: the fuck I was, you know, really just people in
Speaker 5: the city, of course, people in the studio where we
Speaker 5: were working at in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: But that record, of course went from there to La
Speaker 2: and Karen saying, you know who.
Speaker 5: This record would be great on Rihanna, and the record
Speaker 5: got played, and I guess she heard about the record
Speaker 5: at a certain point in time. She's out at the
Speaker 5: Grammys that year earlier in two thousand and seven, and she.
Speaker 2: Heard about the record.
Speaker 5: I guess she had heard it, but we had not
Speaker 5: cut the record yet, and she walked up to my
Speaker 5: manager and said, that's my fucking record.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Rihanna, just like that, that's my fuck.
Speaker 2: You can't Indian girl, just don't don't do it.
Speaker 5: Of Course, when I heard that she said that in
Speaker 5: that way, I was like, Yeah, that's the motherfucker that
Speaker 5: should have had a record attitude.
Speaker 2: You said you got it, and I was already kind
Speaker 2: of following her. She she already had a couple of
Speaker 2: records that that I felt were great. This record was
Speaker 2: going to go that that that far, how big was
Speaker 2: gonna be?
Speaker 5: I think, I think timing is all based on a
Speaker 5: certain math that we can never really solve. You know,
Speaker 5: lightning in the bottle. Things happened for you, and it's
Speaker 5: a blessing that those things are out of your control.
Speaker 5: You know, the only thing you can do is be prepared.
Speaker 5: So I was prepared for the moment.
Speaker 2: But to say I knew exactly what it would do.
Speaker 5: I knew what it was, you know, I said that
Speaker 5: about it was a good record, and I knew it
Speaker 5: was a better than good record.
Speaker 2: I knew it was a great record. But ship happens, man,
Speaker 2: people ship shot.
Speaker 5: Tim crazy stupid videos to certain songs that I had
Speaker 5: rolled the ship out the wrong way, and you're like,
Speaker 5: what the fuck?
Speaker 8: You know, there's other there's other things that are coming,
Speaker 8: other forces that come into you have a.
Speaker 2: Roller record, And it was like me, take my ship
Speaker 2: back like a roller record.
Speaker 1: For somebody, because I ain't gonna That's why I can't
Speaker 1: write ship with nobody.
Speaker 2: I'm taking my back. I don't should have been doing
Speaker 2: this came out to be a hit, and I find
Speaker 2: the reason.
Speaker 9: I like the person you.
Speaker 2: Before like I didn't want to. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: do it with the person. Get hit the notes right
Speaker 2: or something. Hit the notes the notes. I don't know
Speaker 2: where he took you. Don't don't wake my good. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to trying to stay right there. Made the record,
Speaker 2: and you wrote it for them and then wrote it
Speaker 2: for him, which was Jamie Fox.
Speaker 5: At the time, there was a record called Rocking that Ship.
Speaker 2: Rocking that Ship. Yeah, he so rocked that Ship.
Speaker 5: So it just turned into one of those things where
Speaker 5: I wrote it for him and he was like, I
Speaker 5: think I did like six records on that album.
Speaker 2: The first single ended up being Blaming, which was which
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 5: Record that was an interpolation of I Love Your Girl,
Speaker 5: which is my older record at the time. So I'm
Speaker 5: happy either way, like okay, and he's like, this record
Speaker 5: is cool, but dream I need a dream record.
Speaker 2: I need a dream. I'm like this that new ship,
Speaker 2: like do this.
Speaker 5: She's like, nah, I'm good, and so I was kind
Speaker 5: of happy. He said, nah, I'm good, and that she
Speaker 5: was my first eigga.
Speaker 2: The just make some noise with dream being like me
Speaker 2: exactly what I'm exactly like a good night. So what's
Speaker 2: it like being in a session with Kanye.
Speaker 5: For me?
Speaker 2: Pretty pretty tame?
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty tame is you know, everybody has these, you
Speaker 5: know and Bengals and elephants.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: People just have different ideas about people, you know, and
Speaker 5: I think you know, some real nigga ship. It's just
Speaker 5: one of the things that when you people, you people,
Speaker 5: you know, everybody has their their ups, their downs and
Speaker 5: ship that they go through. But most of all, I
Speaker 5: think when you're talking about the creators, they're pretty they're
Speaker 5: pretty loved, you know, individuals.
Speaker 2: By all of us. And it's love coming back, you know,
Speaker 2: our way.
Speaker 5: So when I'm with Kanye, like, I don't see any
Speaker 5: thing other than greatness, you know, and what he's trying
Speaker 5: to get done. Like, I don't see any other noise,
Speaker 5: any other ship, you know, Noise may happen after that,
Speaker 5: but for me, we on one, we like lots of
Speaker 5: synergy between y'all. Yeah, we walk in and we get
Speaker 5: the ship done, you know. And and it's been days
Speaker 5: or we've been nights being off flowing out to Paris,
Speaker 5: and we didn't do ship for like.
Speaker 2: Three four days, and I'm just, you know, cargo exactly.
Speaker 6: Past.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a different type of person in past out
Speaker 1: there right now. He snails, which eats and pasts and
Speaker 1: it's fantastic next to be saying he had a baker
Speaker 1: baking b so single ladies because that's a super Girl
Speaker 1: record and what else.
Speaker 5: At that time, this was the easiest one. Yeah, what
Speaker 5: else would be Yon be singing about.
Speaker 2: To all my single ladies? Is that the way you
Speaker 2: looked at it? And she was in a relationship.
Speaker 5: Nobody knew if Jay was there, y'all don't know what
Speaker 5: it was on tour at the time with Jay and Mary.
Speaker 5: I was opening up for Jay and Mary on the
Speaker 5: tour and I remember Jay coming in and he's like,
Speaker 5: y'all need you need you.
Speaker 2: Doing right with my girl?
Speaker 5: And I was like, all right, cool, bet it's nothing.
Speaker 5: The next thing that popped up is oh cool. So
Speaker 5: you know, you're like an investigator. You're just reporting the news,
Speaker 5: like okay, nobody really knows if you, like, you should
Speaker 5: have put a ring on. It could have meant a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of shit to a lot of people. It's
Speaker 5: a coffee I call it a coffee table conversation. It
Speaker 5: was just one of those things that was an obvious
Speaker 5: theme to write, like and you know, you didn't see
Speaker 5: the ring until the video.
Speaker 2: I was just like, Oh cool, I'm gonna set all
Speaker 2: this ship up.
Speaker 5: And so yeah, what bet a public way to say,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, we actually together together musical teams.
Speaker 2: It's a real moment. That is a real moment. That's
Speaker 2: pretty cool. And you it's like it's like Jay just
Speaker 2: continues to work with you, like they all.
Speaker 1: Like one of the craziest masterminds in the world knows
Speaker 1: that you're the.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, Like, that's that's all. That's that's what, That's
Speaker 2: what kind of matters to me.
Speaker 5: The most of what I do with the people I
Speaker 5: respect and that I work with, is that the greatest
Speaker 5: people who are doing the ship knows, like we think
Speaker 5: we finished with the album, No we're not call that nigga,
Speaker 5: even if you just got to come listen to it,
Speaker 5: even if he adds four bars or he adds three hooks,
Speaker 5: so a whole song, make sure we call him. And
Speaker 5: that's I take the most pride in that because that's
Speaker 5: that's just more more important, you know, to meds are like, yo, like.
Speaker 2: That's the guy. Yeah, yeah, that's that's the way more
Speaker 2: important than me, you know.
Speaker 5: And I've literally sacrificed a certain I guess you can
Speaker 5: say shimmer on my own armor because of that, you know,
Speaker 5: because I I will take that back seat to things
Speaker 5: that I feel like that are more important to me,
Speaker 5: are more important to the world, that they get a
Speaker 5: certain thing out.
Speaker 2: Now justin Bieber, Oh yeah, vote four. His first single
Speaker 2: was the first thing. No, that was not It wasn't.
Speaker 2: I was wrong. Okay, I'm glad you feel like it
Speaker 2: is feel I feel like that birth to you. I
Speaker 2: feel like you birth to them.
Speaker 1: I'm just giving you the proper dream. Just roll with it, Okay, before.
Speaker 2: We just beaber. This is tiger Ball, this is spoiled
Speaker 2: so sauce, this is nothing supposed to be drinking right
Speaker 2: now because this is it's a tradition with the show.
Speaker 1: This go go with my oxy code, because I don't
Speaker 1: think nothing here goes with spe Okay, well let's try.
Speaker 2: Let's see what happened gold On.
Speaker 1: We gott to toast the South, and when you toasted
Speaker 1: all night tonight, we are celebrating the dream.
Speaker 2: We respect you. You are actually first R and B.
Speaker 1: By itself because we did have Drew Hill right, but
Speaker 1: they came they was putting you in.
Speaker 6: That was Hill.
Speaker 2: In Corrupt Dance. We had the last episode and through
Speaker 2: jew Hill in there. It was awkward, but we made
Speaker 2: it work. But we made it work. But tonight we
Speaker 2: are saluting who I considered the new r G king
Speaker 2: RNG that I consider him the king. I consider him the.
Speaker 1: Person that's shape and mold with music sounds like today,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna salute that tonight.
Speaker 2: Let's make some noise to take it.
Speaker 1: He just died.
Speaker 2: It's hard. Did that go? Yeah, you're gonna write seven songs?
Speaker 1: And man, now now.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go back to just and let me go
Speaker 2: back to Justin Bieber. You want me to go back
Speaker 2: after that? There's some country ship right here.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: This is the fucking grits. We've never that good with pancakes.
Speaker 2: Let's go good with grits. I've never heard that. What
Speaker 2: didro say? It tastes like she said, betting pemper Steine
Speaker 2: girl like that. Don't take later on we'll go build
Speaker 2: up to it. So who was your funnest session. The
Speaker 2: first sing with my sexual Reaction is first. Gotta gotta
Speaker 2: go through. What was your favorite session you ever had?
Speaker 2: Like you just walked in and.
Speaker 1: Everything was perfect, whether it be you producing, writing all
Speaker 1: your own sessions.
Speaker 5: Man, the favorite session I walked in was the no
Speaker 5: Church in a Wild session. No Church Wow, Yeah, that
Speaker 5: was my favorite session Church.
Speaker 2: And that's the one with Frank Ocean No.
Speaker 5: No, he wrote his own part, okay, but that was
Speaker 5: the That was the best one that record because that
Speaker 5: was based off if you don't know the backstory now.
Speaker 2: At the time, I couldn't say what the.
Speaker 5: Backstory was because it was a huge deal of what
Speaker 5: was happening. But at the at the time, Jay and
Speaker 5: Kanye were finishing up watching The Throne and we were
Speaker 5: listening to it in Paris.
Speaker 2: And you know it easy, there's yeah, but we kind
Speaker 2: of threw a monkey wrench in that.
Speaker 5: I came home because I felt like they had the
Speaker 5: album and they were kind of done with you know
Speaker 5: what it was, and I wrote Holy Grail at the
Speaker 5: time and sitting it back to Jay, so I said
Speaker 5: I said that back to Jay as they're finishing up,
Speaker 5: because I just wanted to get ahead and just start
Speaker 5: working on what his next ship was.
Speaker 2: I knew Stones was with justin Timberlake, right that was
Speaker 2: a that was Washington. Okay, okay, okay, So.
Speaker 5: I said the record, Jay, here's the bag, y'all man,
Speaker 5: it's my first single.
Speaker 2: Home name my album that b B.
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, cool back, let me know
Speaker 5: when it's time to cut. I'm in Newport Beach, California.
Speaker 5: I got a nice boat out there.
Speaker 2: It feels good.
Speaker 5: I'm out there writing some ship. I feel lovely, phones
Speaker 5: blowing up. I don't know what the fun they want
Speaker 5: on the East Coast. I'm in on the suns and
Speaker 5: I'm like, nah, dog, I ain't got time for it.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 5: I get a call from my good friend Schacka Pilgrim's
Speaker 5: a homie.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 5: Shaka calls me, I need you at the mercer in
Speaker 5: New York right now. It's like, no, let me think
Speaker 5: I'm play golf at six a m. So I'm good,
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna just stay right here. I'm having a
Speaker 5: good time.
Speaker 2: You play golfice make some more. That's that's more.
Speaker 10: So.
Speaker 5: I don't want to leave, of course, like my boogys,
Speaker 5: so so I'm asking what the deal is.
Speaker 2: She won't tell me over the phone, like what's going on?
Speaker 2: So I kind of get a little sideways idea about
Speaker 2: what's going on.
Speaker 5: It's like, Yo, Jay played Kanye Holy Grail and Kanye
Speaker 5: asked me to put on Wash the Throne.
Speaker 11: He was like, nah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Good, I'm gonna keep this on my album. You said
Speaker 2: we was doing that album, you know, x y Z.
Speaker 5: And so what happened from that is, of course I
Speaker 5: flew into you know, I flew into New York and
Speaker 5: and the main thing was, Oh, we need you to
Speaker 5: write another Holy Girl. And Jay's like, yeah, He's gonna
Speaker 5: go out to the trunk, getting out of the trunk
Speaker 5: and just ring it upstairs boars and even me, as
Speaker 5: as confident as I am, I was thinking the same thing, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: this ship ain't just in my back pocket, Like that's
Speaker 5: that's that's the one that done right there?
Speaker 2: You want to go back to West Coast.
Speaker 5: So short the long story short, I went in it
Speaker 5: was working on No Church in a while. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 5: I need you to put something on this record. I
Speaker 5: went in the next room, blah blah blah blah. Didn't
Speaker 5: think nothing of it and me, Jay and Leonardo DiCaprio
Speaker 5: at that time went went.
Speaker 2: Man, what it's like, it's just talk.
Speaker 12: Sorry, we didn't win the ground in summer sets when
Speaker 12: it grab something to eat.
Speaker 2: Man, I never heard.
Speaker 5: About the regular again after I put something on No
Speaker 5: Church in a While at that time, and I get
Speaker 5: a phone call like months later and shotus on the
Speaker 5: phone was like, yeah, so you don't watch the Throne.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, you're talking about Jay. Shit.
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm not donna watch the Throne. Like I
Speaker 5: just did a listening in New York. You don't fucking
Speaker 5: watch the Thrones.
Speaker 2: Like, no, I'm not.
Speaker 5: You know, Jay just recited your whole verse on No
Speaker 5: Church in a While. You're definitely gonna watch the Throne.
Speaker 5: It was like, what is he talking about? I have
Speaker 5: forgot that I did this piece of the song that
Speaker 5: Kanye ended up keeping.
Speaker 2: Just forget about it. So initially it wasn't even credit
Speaker 2: on there like for it.
Speaker 5: It was just it was just this part, you know
Speaker 5: that because everybody was thinking the same thing, like no,
Speaker 5: that's just Kanye and Jay and Frank Ocean and then
Speaker 5: you know, later on of course put it together. But
Speaker 5: that was the best session I walked into because it
Speaker 5: took me about maybe six minutes to do that part
Speaker 5: and I.
Speaker 2: Got a Grammy for it.
Speaker 4: So it's like, can you say it again? Six minutes
Speaker 4: and the Grammy, So the best six minutes.
Speaker 2: I spent so much time. You mother is taking all
Speaker 2: your time. Six minutes is on your head, your taking
Speaker 2: all your.
Speaker 5: First picking hilarious. No, That's why that's the best session
Speaker 5: in my lifetime to date.
Speaker 2: It was just so easy.
Speaker 5: Over there, I'm like, oh cool, we did, Like this
Speaker 5: is great.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that nothing.
Speaker 5: Come on, what's art of the cap doing that? Mother
Speaker 5: probably had no idea who the funk I was and
Speaker 5: he was like you just get you, yes, buddy, change guy.
Speaker 5: I guess yeah, you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised they
Speaker 5: know who you are.
Speaker 2: Can you turn humble? But are you on drink champs?
Speaker 2: We don't get to be not humble for you. We
Speaker 2: beat you up all that? All right, this is what
Speaker 2: we do over here. Other We like to respect our artists.
Speaker 1: We look at our artists like they superheroes, and we
Speaker 1: want the world to look at look at our artists
Speaker 1: like superhero because that's true.
Speaker 2: What we do.
Speaker 1: We sacrifice our life. Thank you every day. You know
Speaker 1: you don't stop being an artist. You always being an
Speaker 1: artist every time. So let me ask you what that
Speaker 1: me has said. You have an experience of writing and producing.
Speaker 1: You produce too as well, actually make the bbs and artists.
Speaker 1: If you had a chance to do it all over,
Speaker 1: what's your experience now?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: With all the experience now you working with everybody from
Speaker 1: everybody's everybody, and you had.
Speaker 2: A chance to do it all over, and you could
Speaker 2: pick one, writing.
Speaker 4: Or like.
Speaker 2: No, no, writing or being an artist? What would you pick?
Speaker 2: What's your biggest high writing? Writing more than being in
Speaker 2: front of I don't expect that, expect expressing your own writing.
Speaker 5: No, no, because writing just touches more people like It's
Speaker 5: like the spiderweb of effective. When you're an artist, everything
Speaker 5: is mostly singular. You have an ideas you, this is
Speaker 5: what people think of you, and this is how it's
Speaker 5: just gonna sound when it comes out based on you. Right,
Speaker 5: when I'm writing, I get to be celene one day
Speaker 5: and I get to be somebody else.
Speaker 2: You say he could be celene Yah, right, and he
Speaker 2: didn't even hit up with the d on. That's how
Speaker 2: you know, you know.
Speaker 1: And now now, so how do you write for Justin Bieber?
Speaker 1: How do you how do you because he's a kid
Speaker 1: at the time, correct, he's a kid. His baby, his
Speaker 1: baby right right, baby baby.
Speaker 2: Some played that record so much probably you know the
Speaker 2: record more thing, so how do you get in that? Like,
Speaker 2: because that's what I'm saying, that's the psycho part.
Speaker 1: The record was actually a grown man record, but it
Speaker 1: was appropriate for the youth, Like how could you balance that?
Speaker 2: To be weak?
Speaker 5: I was just trying to figure out how to talk
Speaker 5: to a not figure out I remember how to talk
Speaker 5: to a girl when I was sixteen. So it was
Speaker 5: just about saying something that I felt like he needed
Speaker 5: to say to be cool and what like, Because there's
Speaker 5: a point where, you know, especially young acts like they
Speaker 5: don't think about you have to sing this song if
Speaker 5: you can't do a version of this song ten years
Speaker 5: from that point. And I try to think about that
Speaker 5: when I'm working with younger with younger artists, like yo, yeah,
Speaker 5: you're you're eighteen, sixteen, but you need to be able
Speaker 5: to sing this song to that audience that's going to
Speaker 5: grow with you when you're twenty seven.
Speaker 8: You don't need to be the lame a superstar that
Speaker 8: age can't identify with, but you could go back and
Speaker 8: think about yourself at that age and identify with them, right,
Speaker 8: And so that's the psycho part.
Speaker 2: So that's a whole other that's a blessed that that
Speaker 2: can be unraveled.
Speaker 5: That's just something that that I have, you know, in
Speaker 5: jumping into different spaces times and moments and like even
Speaker 5: to be pushing and like just like okay, let's go
Speaker 5: like or or even wrap battling with jay on on
Speaker 5: on text like that's a you know, that's just a
Speaker 5: whole other thing, you know. But I get to beat
Speaker 5: those people and be in that place and it's kind
Speaker 5: of like why I love.
Speaker 2: It so much? Right and j text funny to hit
Speaker 2: you with like three lines and space. I mean, I'll
Speaker 2: be like, yo, he's like I gonna knock all my
Speaker 2: ship out so you don't take me.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, this is a rich text. I always
Speaker 1: saw cooking. Every time you can talk like this is
Speaker 1: rich text, I'll be having to deciphering.
Speaker 2: It's just not it's just it's.
Speaker 1: Just it's like a couple of lives and they got
Speaker 1: spaces space, and then it's more lines.
Speaker 2: Then it's space like.
Speaker 5: It's like three conversations. So he will give you like
Speaker 5: four days to answer the questions and ship.
Speaker 2: Don't hit me the next Thursday. It's ill.
Speaker 3: I look up.
Speaker 2: It's like all right, he asked everything this is I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I was zoned out. I zoned out.
Speaker 1: So now I asked you about your best studio session
Speaker 1: or your favorite studio session.
Speaker 2: Now we know I gotta go there. What was your worst?
Speaker 2: Oh man? The hold back?
Speaker 5: Oh man, this wasn't a studio session, but the worst
Speaker 5: with a good fairy friend of mine had the worst experience.
Speaker 2: Oh ship man.
Speaker 5: Riella was on tour and we was cutting her whole
Speaker 5: album at this particular time, a whole whole album.
Speaker 2: Recording record.
Speaker 5: Okay, it was mixing, so literally after the concert, we
Speaker 5: would go backstage and cut records.
Speaker 2: She would stay in the venue. We would cut records
Speaker 2: in the venue. That's hard or the.
Speaker 1: Up and coming artists out there that think this ship
Speaker 1: is easy?
Speaker 2: Did you hear what he just said?
Speaker 1: After she performed, they went in the back and recorded
Speaker 1: the record.
Speaker 2: Can go whoa? That's dedication because me, after I get
Speaker 2: on stage, I'm going to sleep. I'm going to sleep.
Speaker 5: So so in return, God decided to figure out how
Speaker 5: boogie and weak I had gotten at this particular point
Speaker 5: in my life, because at this time I'm like, damn,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of zeros in my.
Speaker 2: Bank account, Like I feel good the word I want
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 5: And then you find yourself onto one of your great
Speaker 5: friends in the middle of fucking Europe, and you're like,
Speaker 5: where am I staying?
Speaker 2: Man? If you have stayed, you stayed at the Plaza
Speaker 2: Man Manhattan, and you know, you go from ship like that,
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, cool, I got out there on
Speaker 2: the road. Man, we got in this fucking hotel, the motel.
Speaker 2: I don't need this. She's just a tale. It wasn't
Speaker 2: even the more. There's just a tale. Man. I got
Speaker 2: in this move. I opened up the door. Man just
Speaker 2: swim back to me.
Speaker 5: Coming in.
Speaker 2: It was a half of a twin size dad and
Speaker 2: the heater was at the bottom. So they're trying to
Speaker 2: bury your ass up in the bed. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: so do I put that on? Or do I? Man?
Speaker 5: I slept all the poths on and had all all
Speaker 5: my face.
Speaker 2: And I've been that man going man, man I sweart.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: I was like oh man, I don't turn into a
Speaker 2: little bit. I used to be there.
Speaker 5: I used to be in the Atlanta niggas like we
Speaker 5: don't give a put me anyway. Nigga woke the next
Speaker 5: morning like look, boom, hey, I need you, I need you.
Speaker 5: Get me the hotel room to this and you know
Speaker 5: she the next one one city over. What was the
Speaker 5: city bay Newcastle? The next city over, that's where it
Speaker 5: made the continue. We got to that spot next after
Speaker 5: we did a show somewhere else before that, and there
Speaker 5: was two tubs in my basket bed room and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, all right, we back, bitch me back. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Listen when I I'll tell you two hotel stories. When
Speaker 1: I was coming up, we all it was no hotels.
Speaker 1: It was sold out.
Speaker 2: It's probably like one of them freaking type of things.
Speaker 2: So we went to one hotel. It was the only hotel.
Speaker 2: And we walked in and there was roaches in the hotel.
Speaker 2: And so as good as we was, we was like
Speaker 2: we gotta laat right. It was from the projects.
Speaker 8: So how you was enough?
Speaker 2: How big were they? I ain't gonna even lie to you.
Speaker 2: I just gone. I just left. I was just like
Speaker 2: I just can't do it. We're getting a little money
Speaker 2: at the times of me and going over, so.
Speaker 1: We go downstairs. We got all our clothes on. That's
Speaker 1: why it reminded me of the story. We put all
Speaker 1: our clothing like I ain't even but we still had
Speaker 1: the shower.
Speaker 2: It was enough.
Speaker 1: We had no know so we had to go to sleep,
Speaker 1: wake up, take the shower, and keep it moving. The
Speaker 1: roach is left in the morning, but at night it
Speaker 1: was day it was day block.
Speaker 2: It was day block. We had to give it to them, right.
Speaker 2: That was one story. Now we're getting money. I was
Speaker 2: getting money and a promoter.
Speaker 1: This is my man etn We're in Paris and he
Speaker 1: tries to show me. He's like, I want to show
Speaker 1: you d v B.
Speaker 2: Why don't do that ship by Why don't do that ship?
Speaker 2: Why don't mean to cut you out? I don't want
Speaker 2: to see the real fuck we all want to see
Speaker 2: ship about no real Like that's like, you don't come
Speaker 2: to Atlanta. I want to show you a real Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I was gonna suck in this area
Speaker 2: and nigga, don't leave out in three on three two cents. Good,
Speaker 2: you fucked up the hotel. But it was Paris, it
Speaker 2: was culture. This was at the time.
Speaker 1: I walked in and you know, I used the bathroom
Speaker 1: and I heard Butch Rob but I knew I was
Speaker 1: on seven.
Speaker 10: He was on DJ DJ, so I was like, hell
Speaker 10: the hell out here. So I'm using the bathroom like yo, Butch,
Speaker 10: He's like, YO, know, I will sit.
Speaker 2: To calling to the more. I said, this is my
Speaker 2: nig I went to Hollywood. I went through too much, somebody,
Speaker 2: I've been through too much. He said that ship flushes
Speaker 2: at the same time, there's one flush for the whole building.
Speaker 2: I'm terrible. I was like, and I t having did.
Speaker 2: I was like, this doesn't mean nothing at this moment,
Speaker 2: you now, I mean, I'm crazy. I can hear and
Speaker 2: then it's crazy. The we talking a nigga played music.
Speaker 2: It's like I was dead, which I'm I'm zowned out.
Speaker 2: But this is the same we went through the ground.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't think I.
Speaker 10: Went through the ground.
Speaker 2: You already been in the ground. I'm good.
Speaker 5: I woke up, went to school, damn bodies and creek like,
Speaker 5: I'm good. I was dumb past. I was past the
Speaker 5: Grinds Park and it was just one of those realizations like, yo, man,
Speaker 5: you got a lot of great ship going on. I
Speaker 5: need you to remember what the funk you came from.
Speaker 5: It was just one of those days, and I remember that,
Speaker 5: and I stayed in the luxury sweet.
Speaker 2: Today's day that was back. I was fine, easy in
Speaker 2: my mind. I don't want to see the real nothing
Speaker 2: of nothing like, no, I don't see that. That's just
Speaker 2: you already done that, like when you're there. You don't
Speaker 2: want to see the real ship. I want to see
Speaker 2: this ship, Trojiany. We grew out of that.
Speaker 5: We grew out of the exactly have you ever like
Speaker 5: Michael Jackson, No crazy story I got for you.
Speaker 2: Mother, Let's go. I got crazy shot before crazy after
Speaker 2: hold on, were gonna do a shot up. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you'll cut yours.
Speaker 6: You can do the.
Speaker 2: Damn you don't want to do it. We gotta.
Speaker 6: Do it.
Speaker 2: Everybody that we don't want to do it. Everybody to
Speaker 2: do that, everybody, everybody, everybody to do that. Everybody gotta
Speaker 2: do a line. No no, no cocaine. That's how he messes.
Speaker 1: Job.
Speaker 2: That's been in your cup.
Speaker 13: Let's cup, that's what.
Speaker 2: Engine only you got doing. Mother lives can't drink and
Speaker 2: you passed me. I can't wait for two lives. O
Speaker 2: my god, and we Miami.
Speaker 5: I know the dog's coach right now, he's trying a
Speaker 5: great cloud.
Speaker 2: Let's do this sun it to him. I'm gonna forget
Speaker 2: the story. What was the story?
Speaker 14: Let's not forget Jackson. Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. Okay, he
Speaker 14: never met him, but he met him. Oh is it
Speaker 14: like the way I think I.
Speaker 2: Bet Michael Jackson. Yeah, I need this Michael Jackie story.
Speaker 2: It's terrible. Now you're drinking champagne. That's champagne to wash
Speaker 2: it down? What's this blue? Let me smacker?
Speaker 5: Yes, it helps get the get your sus is right. Yeah,
Speaker 5: for the lines. Saw him in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Mike is working. I started making I May Love Hate and.
Speaker 5: Studio in Vegas at the poems at the time when
Speaker 5: the poem was copping, and I had a certain type
Speaker 5: of magic there. But Michael Jackson was working in.
Speaker 2: The same studio. You know, some people knew, some people
Speaker 2: didn't know. Whatever.
Speaker 5: Good friend of mine's Pat Thrall is there with Michael
Speaker 5: cutting a record, just just cutting the record.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the record was. He hits us
Speaker 2: on the phone. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 2: that story. You know, that's not a part story.
Speaker 5: So Michael hits us back in Atlanta, I mean not
Speaker 5: Michael throw it back and and then like yo, y'all bro,
Speaker 5: and if you know this guy is such a sweet guy, Joe.
Speaker 2: Bro Bro brow gets who the fuck is in here?
Speaker 6: Like, well not me?
Speaker 2: So fucking Michael Jackson's in her right now.
Speaker 5: We're like, well, he working that motherfucker song cool, like
Speaker 5: that nigga in the FaceTime and some ship. Like it's like, yo, bro,
Speaker 5: he's singing your ship right now. Listen, oh ship, this
Speaker 5: motherfucker Mike is in the background singing.
Speaker 2: Fuck. I'm like my new nigga. And I never got
Speaker 2: a chance to meet him. And I was so pissed.
Speaker 5: I was in Atlanta, Okay, Oh my god, I blew
Speaker 5: my mind. I was like, hold this motherfucker singing. First
Speaker 5: of all that nigga, that's one ship Jackson. And so
Speaker 5: he like he's there dancing and ship in my mind,
Speaker 5: like you know.
Speaker 2: He's just chumping it out. I'm like, oh, he's doing
Speaker 2: all the ship in my ship right now. We finna
Speaker 2: get in fuck that bitch, like you know, but but
Speaker 2: that was.
Speaker 5: One of the that was that was a great Michael
Speaker 5: moment for me, even though I didn't get a chance
Speaker 5: to work with him, but that was a great one.
Speaker 2: You know my Michael story. You got a Michael I
Speaker 2: never knew you had a Michael story. No, I ain't
Speaker 2: never met him.
Speaker 1: Oh, but this is what happened when Forrell first It's
Speaker 1: super Thug My record came out and Michael Jackson called.
Speaker 2: For Rell, and Forrell made all this R and B
Speaker 2: ship for him.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's the same guy that you're talking about,
Speaker 1: because Morel called me and said, yo, I just sent
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of beasts to Michael and he called
Speaker 1: He called us back, His manager called us back and said,
Speaker 1: I don't want this ship.
Speaker 2: I want a super dug. Was cool to me, Like,
Speaker 2: how the fuck do I make it hard? You ain't
Speaker 2: getting ship from I said, well, that's why you're a
Speaker 2: good producer and I'm not. You're on your own with
Speaker 2: that one. So at my point, so you look at
Speaker 2: the motherfucker like, nah, they don't like this type of ship.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they like it. Yeah, it'd be crazy, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. So now how do you But now you said,
Speaker 2: fuck that nigga, So how did you break that? Like
Speaker 2: what was in your mom moment?
Speaker 5: That's the offensive part, Like that's just the that's pure
Speaker 5: rap offense, you know that.
Speaker 2: I think that running plays for right now.
Speaker 5: Like still they're like, okay, cool, we just put the
Speaker 5: melody with this shit and fuck everybody. That record wasn't
Speaker 5: about to write that was the last record on the album.
Speaker 5: Actually that record Yeah I Love your girl. La was like, YO,
Speaker 5: give me one more and that was the one more.
Speaker 2: But the original is is fuck that niggah. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 2: we'll put you in that place all the time.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know when when women look how they
Speaker 5: look and they man, they're doing what they're supposed.
Speaker 2: To be doing, you know, coming from that space.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like he was like, you're saying, man,
Speaker 1: you know you have girls flipping on everybody in the club.
Speaker 2: I just want to throw that out there. Of course,
Speaker 2: like every time a girl was mad at the nigga
Speaker 2: in the club, they just kept ship. Came on.
Speaker 1: That was hard.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it that way. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you was putting niggas on the spot. That's it came
Speaker 2: on man, You see, man, nigga's face getting read. You're like,
Speaker 2: oh it's girl.
Speaker 5: Yeah she But all the other niggas that didn't come
Speaker 5: with their girls are like, here's just good with their girls.
Speaker 2: They holding hand. Yeah, you come there with your girl.
Speaker 2: Y'all just falled in the call all the way over.
Speaker 2: Oh you fucked up? Now make up bad? Oh wow, now.
Speaker 1: You that's you, you like because my wife is a
Speaker 1: makeup artist, so you may make up that.
Speaker 2: Who was in the zone because girl tell us. I
Speaker 2: think it's just about like being honest with and it's
Speaker 2: gonna sound crazy, but it's just about that.
Speaker 5: It's just the idea that at some particular point, which
Speaker 5: is not even everycent the other day, we.
Speaker 2: All are horrors for some particular reason. Like that's just
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 5: There's a there's a I'm gonna explain, there's something that
Speaker 5: you want and something that you're giving willing to give up.
Speaker 5: That's just life like period. You can classify a different
Speaker 5: way all you want to, but you know, there's there
Speaker 5: are certain songs that that still haven't came out where
Speaker 5: where I've used that analogy and then where we're just
Speaker 5: you know, all holes, we're just out here trying to
Speaker 5: get our you know, get our ship. But being pure
Speaker 5: just isn't a part of it. Like I mean, the
Speaker 5: idea that of the makeup bag itself, whether it's a
Speaker 5: Chanel bag, this bag or whatever it is, that wasn't
Speaker 5: the point. The point was what do you need me
Speaker 5: to do to make it right? Or I can't make
Speaker 5: it right? So we got to make a choice.
Speaker 2: Put that's all it is. He was out here putting
Speaker 2: pressure on niggas good making put it all the way.
Speaker 2: Five texts. First she had she had to have a
Speaker 2: great bag, just extra. I have me hes gonna have
Speaker 2: a makeup bat. Need my knee just now.
Speaker 5: Put some of this gravy on that, Chris, is that
Speaker 5: the it ain't three shot times? But this talk all
Speaker 5: this ship gravy.
Speaker 2: I mean when I come back still rest week, you
Speaker 2: forget about it. You take a call. What's going on
Speaker 2: your guys? What's going on where you are? Hello? Hello?
Speaker 2: Oh he's not Hello. That's the CEO for the Probably Records. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know Gus. Yes, he's a great guy. So he's
Speaker 2: trying to come out here.
Speaker 1: So you just announced the title of your new album,
Speaker 1: your Ali You just called that that quick.
Speaker 2: He's like we did. Yeah, I'm on point. Give me
Speaker 2: the phone back. I got my notes on there. So
Speaker 2: what is the title? What is the title? You have
Speaker 2: the title? God damn a call.
Speaker 5: It's kind on the end of the love sequels of
Speaker 5: full length already full length. Everybody's been mad at me
Speaker 5: for like six years. And I was supposed to.
Speaker 2: Release its you to drop there.
Speaker 5: And jun Yeah, I was supposed to drop in June
Speaker 5: two thousand and twelve or eleven actually, And so even
Speaker 5: though I gave them like about four records standing there
Speaker 5: just like nah nigga with that record that like you
Speaker 5: realize it's not gonna be the same record now.
Speaker 2: But but finally I've done it and it's about about
Speaker 2: to come out. Who is this?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? Rock Nation a Rap Nations back
Speaker 2: Nation director. I mean he's rocking the change. He looked
Speaker 2: like rock Nation too. And I have my rose Goal sho,
Speaker 2: I should have my rose Goal magic.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm glad that wear my rose Gold Change
Speaker 1: the mask because you are clearly killing me.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I can look at it like that. No, No, No,
Speaker 2: that's good, that's okay. I love that I couldn't give you.
Speaker 2: I gotta step my ship up. It's all good. I
Speaker 2: am proud of everybody doing it. Let's just make it.
Speaker 2: I swow, I sna come like you. This is why
Speaker 2: we gotta make a new word. Right, nigga's like us.
Speaker 2: It's bougie, right. We like to get a good restaurant.
Speaker 2: We like to, we like to, you know, drive nice ship.
Speaker 2: But we hood so could we make hoogie? Who hoo?
Speaker 2: It's interesting. Let's go. Let's go hoosie. We're gonna make
Speaker 2: the world up right now. Your team, who know you?
Speaker 2: The teams you just go to a house. That's what
Speaker 2: I advance, actually fit into hoosie. We gotta make it
Speaker 2: up right now, dreaming that what I'm saying, this is
Speaker 2: what it's what we're doing right now.
Speaker 1: This is this is a collaboration. This is actually right
Speaker 1: now slaying. Look, we gotta make up the meaning hoosie.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: We we spell USI first because way smarter than me.
Speaker 2: I was definitely it's a he spelling TI. I was
Speaker 2: in the same in English class. Spelling. You gotta hoosie?
Speaker 2: Who is it?
Speaker 4: H o?
Speaker 2: And spelling it's it goes wherever you want to go.
Speaker 2: Let's put you in it. So let's go Hu hu
Speaker 2: e for you.
Speaker 1: Definitely we gottahow spect you okay, huge, So what's hood?
Speaker 5: And Hugh Pathmo and color and co makes a little
Speaker 5: color and even got because he's hip hop come all
Speaker 5: the fun. He was the first come here, the first
Speaker 5: rap whatever he shot, the first rap video.
Speaker 2: You your first rap.
Speaker 1: Rap video ever, even though it has no rap playing,
Speaker 1: it was hip hop nigga thiabout.
Speaker 2: I think it's just stay h h O h O
Speaker 2: t B. That's too close to Hooters and Hoosiers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's going to.
Speaker 1: Hood, that's true, but whole this is new version of hood.
Speaker 1: We just said, we've been saying already so.
Speaker 2: Beautiful.
Speaker 1: Man, it's been making up English h oh. But you
Speaker 1: never know, we can make up this word in two
Speaker 1: hundred years from now. This could be then the guarantee word.
Speaker 2: That exactly. I think it's h u easy. You are
Speaker 2: hu easy like Hoosi's hos h u.
Speaker 6: E z you.
Speaker 2: You made it like a you made it like a
Speaker 2: foreign life. Definitely English. To look the T shirt, it's
Speaker 2: it's not gonna work.
Speaker 5: How do you know?
Speaker 2: Is it two different spellings or not?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 11: The Vietnam bes man, that's hard it's actually gonna that's
Speaker 11: actually appreciate a d J as an artist's stupid and
Speaker 11: graffiti too, like loff, it looks if you're making a shirt,
Speaker 11: it would look who's.
Speaker 2: Just got a trademark?
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Okay, I got it first, Okay, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm my fall all right?
Speaker 6: Cool?
Speaker 2: You gott what a h u e u? And it
Speaker 2: could be a clothing line too, that's my point. You
Speaker 2: got it. Let's got the point? Crazy. This is a
Speaker 2: corporations got them.
Speaker 10: We just did this.
Speaker 2: Guess we just did it. It looks it's okay, I
Speaker 2: did it's.
Speaker 1: Doing my version doing that ship in the song that
Speaker 1: goes because this is an old school story.
Speaker 2: From drinks and the fact that he doesn't agree with
Speaker 2: my story right now, I have to bring it up.
Speaker 2: I have to bring it. I'm gonna go take a
Speaker 2: bathroom break right now. No, you still gotta stay right here.
Speaker 2: This is my man. I'm petty. Where's your man?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 1: I'm petty as hell, I am man. I'm petty right,
Speaker 1: and it's better not be the it's going there. It's
Speaker 1: going there stupid, but I don't know it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the thought song. Yes, before he tells us.
Speaker 2: You will tell the story. How about that? I don't know,
Speaker 2: tells it wrong, but god, I'll tell you what he
Speaker 2: tells story. He always gets it wrong. He can't take off.
Speaker 2: It's ok. It's a good advice. Here's the basics of
Speaker 2: the story. He's dating a girl. Okay, I mean yes,
Speaker 2: but how wrong the way you tell it? But he
Speaker 2: he's dating the girl. I can't believe the services now know,
Speaker 2: we gotta bring back old ship. Sometimes it's just just
Speaker 2: because this is drinking. Drink the fans.
Speaker 1: He's daying the girl, right, so the girl she would
Speaker 1: take a shot for Yes, yes, this poor the shot first.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drinking afterwards. Our grits to go with this
Speaker 2: with you, So listen, I want you to. I want
Speaker 2: you to tell me if he's petty or not one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. I know I'm petty. But before you telling
Speaker 2: him that, I have to tell my version. Put more shot.
Speaker 2: I should have said version first. Let's go. I'm ready
Speaker 2: your versant. Tell you whip say so I can show
Speaker 2: how you fuck up my version. Okay, all right, listen,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna just make the shortest version. He's
Speaker 2: dating the girl. She goes to the Thong song video wrong,
Speaker 2: he cuts off. She went to beg pivvo first.
Speaker 5: All this.
Speaker 6: Something right, there's stacy. He said that right, chronic Okay
Speaker 6: this no, No, the video, the chronological version is wrong.
Speaker 1: The only reason why he cut off off because she
Speaker 1: went to the wrong Okay, wrong, it's terrible.
Speaker 2: I had just say go ahead, okay, let me tell
Speaker 2: you third. You can't go. Are you gonna know my version?
Speaker 2: I want you to have your verse? My version is
Speaker 2: this my girl, She's a inspire love Yoka.
Speaker 9: You killed.
Speaker 2: Killed. She's an inspire model, she wants. And then she
Speaker 2: tells he's an aspiring model.
Speaker 8: Yes, okay, yes, and she starts getting She tells me,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna start doing video gigs.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna inspire. I'm a DJ that inspired. I'm a DJ.
Speaker 2: I'm work meaning, I'm doing my thing. You know, we're
Speaker 2: going down.
Speaker 8: I see what's happening and what you mean on filma
Speaker 8: in the world of music period.
Speaker 2: Okay, I see, I mean a video since so I said,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But already at that point
Speaker 2: we are we are we're going apart, period.
Speaker 14: So that's how you That's.
Speaker 2: Because because I gonna tell you right now when I
Speaker 2: say to her, you go pursue your your dreams. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do my thing. Then it's not gonna be that
Speaker 2: easy if we weren't already going apart. So she goes
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not gonna be with worst radio shot.
Speaker 2: Let's do it together. Let's do it together, because I
Speaker 2: want to know the first video that you said, it's it.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 2: It was like some ill ship. It was like it
Speaker 2: was real. I don't know about. Okay, let's go. That
Speaker 2: went down the rod. Let me relax, No fo, you
Speaker 2: want some more champaion that we give them over.
Speaker 1: Man, we got some rocks of ultramok the best voka
Speaker 1: on the planet.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna suck around and throw up on the stripper.
Speaker 2: That'll be amazing.
Speaker 7: That that was amazing, So go ahead, run video, keep
Speaker 7: it verre like, Okay, don't die n Then we've down
Speaker 7: the wrong pipe. So we just broke up.
Speaker 2: Break up. She went wrong. That's what he's wrong. He said,
Speaker 2: that's it eventuated the wrong bullshit. We broke up.
Speaker 8: But immediately when we broke up, this is immedia tape
Speaker 8: DJ in Miami. I'm the biggest mixtape DJ in my am,
Speaker 8: I go the Thong song. I think it's a thought
Speaker 8: song remix. I'm not really one hundred percent sure. No
Speaker 8: met the man remen I got. They invited me over there.
Speaker 8: They said, yo, come get freestyle from Red and med
Speaker 8: I'm in the tent that far and sponsored the tent getting.
Speaker 2: I got my four track and then I see my Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how I was getting to. This is the reality.
Speaker 10: You need to have.
Speaker 2: You heard my story. This is the reality.
Speaker 8: So we just broke up where it's fresh like nice
Speaker 8: minutes ago, like like like nine days ago.
Speaker 2: Damn, this is real.
Speaker 8: The the cutting still she's in the Throng song video
Speaker 8: like that, like you said, but I didn't stop there.
Speaker 2: This is ship. The next video was big since she
Speaker 2: was doing a dude She's Telly video. This ghost Wally
Speaker 2: renis of them to wan Oh, that was one of
Speaker 2: the worst ones. She was inspirational. The coustmas Nigga took
Speaker 2: her down. Nobody took the sole saw you're like an artist.
Speaker 2: He is a DJ.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a DJ that he sitting around seeing what
Speaker 1: the artists do when the artist is wow, because a
Speaker 1: artist ain't wow.
Speaker 8: You said what I mean, the difference between your story
Speaker 8: and my story is I saw that come. No disrespect
Speaker 8: to her, but I said, I can't handle that, Like
Speaker 8: do you. I'm gonna do me And I'm not telling
Speaker 8: you that she went wild like I don't know. I
Speaker 8: don't know the facts. That's the whole point. I'm just saying,
Speaker 8: I can't handle that.
Speaker 6: This is.
Speaker 2: What you're saying. I can't help her be in the
Speaker 2: video shoots like that.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: You're working. Okay, that's a great story, but it's a
Speaker 2: great story, und saying, but why can't you handle because
Speaker 2: I want you to finish this story. But it's gonna
Speaker 2: actually dream. Is he drank this dreams with me?
Speaker 13: He knows?
Speaker 2: Is he he got off? Don't you think I'm patty
Speaker 2: for one second? Please dream? You can be honest. This
Speaker 2: is an honest show. This is an honest show thinking
Speaker 2: of reality of what I'm talking about. I just think
Speaker 2: that he wasn't willing to outfuck somebody for his girl.
Speaker 2: It's a very different respective.
Speaker 5: I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I was a kid.
Speaker 15: You're still gonna know the fuck. I'm sorry, Okay, I
Speaker 15: didn't Okay, you're right, I didn't up look at it
Speaker 15: like whatever you're coming home tonight.
Speaker 2: I bet that coming home to what I'm a kid,
Speaker 2: I'm to my mom? How much how old are you
Speaker 2: down at the time? Eighteen seventeen? Man, you do that
Speaker 2: was Hennessy dings. I'm a kid at the time.
Speaker 14: Many behind its counts authority in my car, my pat
Speaker 14: You on to re act into that situation.
Speaker 1: You coming up djaying your girl want to go to
Speaker 1: the Thong so On video? Did she wanted to do
Speaker 1: big Pimpingchi Wiley?
Speaker 8: Come on, man, y'all from number one. If y'all really
Speaker 8: think you wouldn't be in my position.
Speaker 2: And be like, hey, you got all right dream, I'm
Speaker 2: not packing my shiit up. You're not packing what you're doing?
Speaker 2: You going the THO video shoot together? Yeahptain let me
Speaker 2: the gap. No, I'm working out ship. I'm going to
Speaker 2: work thinking I'm gonna go thereat ship for that, I
Speaker 2: got free stuff. But honestly, different, yes, different?
Speaker 6: Could you?
Speaker 2: Could you deal with a could you deal with something
Speaker 2: like that with I think I could? Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I could. But you weren't doing what I was doing.
Speaker 8: I'm saying the difference is I'm a DJ and I'm
Speaker 8: there and I'm doing what I was doing my work.
Speaker 8: She's gonna do her work. I'm not there watching her
Speaker 8: and enjoying differentbody.
Speaker 1: If I would have Dame what Dame gash listen Dame
Speaker 1: gass for me and.
Speaker 2: Data waring stuff, but you couldn't be out say we
Speaker 2: das war, she wasn't. It was you know what, actually
Speaker 2: a fanas me show me the video and that wasn't
Speaker 2: my girl? What you doing dream?
Speaker 1: Okay you see this is no Instagram but still Nigga's
Speaker 1: no Dame was like that, bib.
Speaker 2: I'm just well, could you can handle that? I can't
Speaker 2: handle that too, but I know that makes me petty.
Speaker 2: That's a difference between me and him, like I couldn't
Speaker 2: handled it. I'm on your side to answer though what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's petty because you didn't know she did that just
Speaker 1: because she's at a rap music video.
Speaker 2: What does wait, petty? Your petty is that I broke up?
Speaker 5: I think I think I think my pety will start
Speaker 5: waiting for that for my petty was some minute like
Speaker 5: I'm good. I don't give a fuck like fun well,
Speaker 5: I can't control people, fucking just be what every just busting.
Speaker 2: Cool, just clean yourself up, clean.
Speaker 5: Assholes, you know, Like I said, my pettyess will start
Speaker 5: earlier had the idea that, oh I can't fuck with you,
Speaker 5: you're out of my league.
Speaker 2: From the beginning. She was never out of my league. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if they you up, she definitely was not with dream
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's using triple A with pro, but you got
Speaker 5: what you went pro and I don't know where we went,
Speaker 5: but this is.
Speaker 2: Baseball. Okay, okay, that's what happened exactly.
Speaker 8: Can you start adding? I am I'm gonna dam right now.
Speaker 8: That was the petty you just said.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I mean, let me if anybody in.
Speaker 1: This room, I don't think you're petty, right, I'm not petty,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying if you ever looked at somebody, you
Speaker 1: ever like, what's what, Oh it's cool with you looked at.
Speaker 2: Their graham just to make sure they're doing good, not
Speaker 2: doing not doing good? That makes you petty.
Speaker 1: Like if you was cool with somebody and then you
Speaker 1: stopped sucking with him, and you stopped fucking with each other.
Speaker 2: And then somehow their graham you know, tag you and
Speaker 2: you just look on that they still on the block.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, because everybody has somebody that
Speaker 1: they look at their ship just to make sure they
Speaker 1: still fuck.
Speaker 2: There's a great there's a great, great penny.
Speaker 5: That's a great, great fucking pity ass and Yo Yo
Speaker 5: Gotti's new song, but love the fucking depth.
Speaker 2: Shout out the motherfucker. This motherfucker right now, he's on
Speaker 2: the fucking fire. This motherfucker says, your gotty says, my
Speaker 2: ex cheated on me.
Speaker 5: Now she working double ships, petty as I love it,
Speaker 5: say it again, his ex cheated on him?
Speaker 2: Now she was working double ships. Like so she got
Speaker 2: with the lame more like, oh, I'm not fucking do
Speaker 2: you ever go on your fist, Graham and just look
Speaker 2: and make sure she's still doing the dogs on video?
Speaker 2: She's not. Because he's a family woman. This is a
Speaker 2: fan she got, she got, she got. I was worried
Speaker 2: because she's a family woman. I was like that she's
Speaker 2: gonna hear this ship. It wasn't not too long ago.
Speaker 2: What's her name never said that? Remember you never got
Speaker 2: dream a gentleman, dream good. She hit me up. She's like,
Speaker 2: you're talking ship and that's did you go through it?
Speaker 6: Here?
Speaker 2: And you me.
Speaker 1: In my mind like, you know, I'm on her side.
Speaker 1: I felt like she was a good girl just trying
Speaker 1: to go work. That's how I felt she was a
Speaker 1: good girl.
Speaker 2: That's why she worked too much. But yeah, you got
Speaker 2: videos and like.
Speaker 1: Black Pecker's a Miami group. Actually, just why the story gets? Ill, right,
Speaker 1: we're done one hundred episodes right of this ship.
Speaker 2: Man, and this is probably in like twenty right, Okay.
Speaker 1: Here's what the story gets. I don't know cause you
Speaker 1: took it out on him pop because I didn't take
Speaker 1: it out. The girl went to a hip hop video.
Speaker 1: It was like a hip hop but the only person
Speaker 1: you had proof of her dating was.
Speaker 2: Bell BIV de phone. Uh, one of the most that
Speaker 2: goes up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I went to that.
Speaker 1: Can't be I'm sorry, which one of the niggas was
Speaker 1: actually actually you're Annie Bobby Ricky and I remember the dude,
Speaker 1: the skinny long dude, So.
Speaker 8: Actually that you know, you know what's funny. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 8: The funny thing is that that was the first thing
Speaker 8: that happened. But you've seen them with Actually we broke
Speaker 8: up and then I went to New Audition because that's
Speaker 8: well that's new audition.
Speaker 2: They's different. Eras, no come on, bro, I'm not that old,
Speaker 2: so what's obvious this? She would have been fucking different. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you're saying stay away from that one. I
Speaker 2: went to the you know, I'm not in v I P.
Speaker 2: But who do I see him? P? I P my
Speaker 2: ex girl with one of those dudes, Ronnie. I think
Speaker 2: it was Ronnie. You know what what you just actually?
Speaker 2: I think I got I got to I solved it.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't petty. It wasn't petty. But what you
Speaker 2: did it was emotional, definitely dream dream don't it wasn't
Speaker 2: pet Would you go see all the hip hopsters? You
Speaker 2: got emotional?
Speaker 6: I ain't.
Speaker 16: Listen people dream he said, it wasn't petty. After you
Speaker 16: found out it was an arm beating nigga national, I
Speaker 16: respect you dream that one was. It was emotional. It
Speaker 16: wasn't petty.
Speaker 2: Like it's hip hop. You know, it's the culture. You
Speaker 2: lost something to the culture. We all knew everything at petty.
Speaker 2: If you would have become a Republican right after that,
Speaker 2: how you gonna shop? That's a ship?
Speaker 5: That's what that?
Speaker 2: Oh you went to that counts?
Speaker 8: But the song then I did go to the club
Speaker 8: shortly after we broke and that's actually you reminded me
Speaker 8: right now of that.
Speaker 17: And I look up at the and she's like roddick boys,
Speaker 17: I'm like bitch, you know.
Speaker 8: And then after that was actually the throng song, and
Speaker 8: then after that was what you wanted.
Speaker 1: And then that God, listen, Wally, the throng song, a
Speaker 1: big pipping, we gotta talk, You've gotta be big like.
Speaker 2: We got here.
Speaker 5: I've heard this story back then. I would have wrote
Speaker 5: the show in this song. If you can write this song, No,
Speaker 5: that's too old. Now that's a great song.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Right now, we canna make a country song.
Speaker 1: All your albums, right, all your albums, What was the
Speaker 1: most one to you that meant the most?
Speaker 2: Wow? The first one? Love hate meant the most? Why
Speaker 2: is that it was first? It was first introduced people
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 5: I was blessed enough for people to hear and make
Speaker 5: my mind up because at that time it wasn't about
Speaker 5: me being an artist and wanted to say, hey man,
Speaker 5: look at me. It was it was a design. It
Speaker 5: was a design play to put my music on showcase.
Speaker 5: So it was it was the idea overall was as
Speaker 5: a writer. Even though you get a record over here,
Speaker 5: you get a record over there, like that's cool, But
Speaker 5: how are they gonna know that you do other shit?
Speaker 2: How they're gonna know how deep?
Speaker 5: You know it goes, because when somebody gets something from you,
Speaker 5: you know, motherfucker won't my umbrella every time, you know.
Speaker 2: So I was able to be the canvas for my
Speaker 2: own art. And that's what it was about.
Speaker 10: That.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. That's the crazy shit is
Speaker 2: what you just said.
Speaker 1: Is the curse about having a hit record is everybody
Speaker 1: kind of want to imitate Yep, that record the Moss,
Speaker 1: which is one of the most records that you wrote produced,
Speaker 1: been a part of that.
Speaker 2: People just kept coming to you and it became annoying.
Speaker 2: Like I remember seeing Pharrell one time and we had
Speaker 2: what's the record? Home Boy? I came to party. He
Speaker 2: had to tell me.
Speaker 1: He was like, y'all, I'm tired of everybody telling me
Speaker 1: to give them that same record that I gave you, Laurie.
Speaker 5: I think records are production based when they come to that, though.
Speaker 5: I don't think people was more so asking me.
Speaker 2: For the same song because at that time I had
Speaker 2: written so many different ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So the
Speaker 2: tracks was you know, never really stayed the same.
Speaker 5: There was those were changing and my lyricss changing based
Speaker 5: on the emotional melodies or or whatever.
Speaker 2: The tone of the of the actual.
Speaker 5: Song was who the artist is and singing it, which
Speaker 5: was the whole other blessing to be able to give
Speaker 5: Rihanna something and give be a whole separate thing, you know,
Speaker 5: that's you know, I think that was the That was
Speaker 5: the biggest part of it all because most times, you know,
Speaker 5: somebody could do a song for one person and the
Speaker 5: other song still sounds like you know, if I didn't
Speaker 5: tell you I did it on Brotherly and single, A's
Speaker 5: like you wouldn't put it together. It doesn't sound the same.
Speaker 5: But you're producing also as well, like like literally the beats.
Speaker 5: What's the percentage of what you've done that beats and lyrics?
Speaker 13: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Like just and you wrote the music. Most people understand
Speaker 2: writing is also the beats, right right.
Speaker 8: The layman doesn't know that, Yeah, So when you're writing
Speaker 8: lyrics and the beats, So like Holy Girl.
Speaker 5: For instance, So I did the track and wrote the
Speaker 5: hook and then I gave it to gave it to
Speaker 5: whole and then we brought in timbling to make the.
Speaker 2: Track what it needs to be to your production.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because my idea of writing is exactly what it
Speaker 5: is in the country world. Like it's you know, those
Speaker 5: songs one hundred percent written, Like it's not a beat producer.
Speaker 5: Her is the you know, the producer usually has nothing
Speaker 5: to do with the composition like itself, Like it has
Speaker 5: nothing to do with the melodies, the top lines, the lyric,
Speaker 5: like it has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2: The writer could be the writer and the producer come
Speaker 2: in after that. It's like Quincy Jones, you know some
Speaker 2: of those he didn't do the track. That track ship
Speaker 2: came from hip hop, right. But that's the thing.
Speaker 9: That's the thing that hip hop wise, when we think
Speaker 9: about producer, we think about the beat paper he goes
Speaker 9: like this, right, and then when think about the writer,
Speaker 9: he's writing the lyrics.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm saying that the difference for you, well,
Speaker 5: it's I mean, it's just a universe. It's it's only
Speaker 5: in this culture where we see that as to you know,
Speaker 5: two different things. For me, producer is actually what it's
Speaker 5: always been. It's the motherfucker that you blame at the
Speaker 5: end when sh it.
Speaker 2: Don't go right. He brings everything together. Yeah, so if
Speaker 2: I don't have the touch.
Speaker 5: Of fucking beat, but I probably steal the producer just
Speaker 5: because you did that ship with me. And if the
Speaker 5: ship ain't right, it's like dream fucked this up. Because
Speaker 5: to produce me is to come up with it right. No,
Speaker 5: I don't care how you came up with it.
Speaker 2: Come up with it. I ain't right now of it.
Speaker 2: I ain't do the track I produced it, though, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I got my whole little well that too, But actually,
Speaker 2: where is my crip? I join at?
Speaker 11: You got crit and white girl cripp crippy we oh
Speaker 11: we haveripety cripp.
Speaker 2: You've been coming to Miami for a long time. I
Speaker 2: don't know what you're gone.
Speaker 5: Crippy white good damn white girls and some even the
Speaker 5: only white girl don't allowed to touch.
Speaker 2: Cheating. Hold on thing. Know where you're going. We're gonna
Speaker 2: have cryptocurrency. No, I'm trying to be trying to get
Speaker 2: better at what I do. Damn, I don't know.
Speaker 8: So when you're producing joints, are you using any certain
Speaker 8: like machines?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the NPC. I'm still at lower the
Speaker 5: NPC three thousand. Yeah, I am on logic and you
Speaker 5: know ableton I can. I can move around anything. I
Speaker 5: like the I like to touch shit, though I don't
Speaker 5: like the idea that everything is in the computer or
Speaker 5: whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Like I'll go to a.
Speaker 5: Studio just because they have a big asportmans. Yeah, oh well,
Speaker 5: I've been playing I I started playing trumpet.
Speaker 2: In like third grade.
Speaker 5: So the whole band theory to me was just second nature,
Speaker 5: like it was just something. It was just something that
Speaker 5: we we did in high school. And then at that time,
Speaker 5: if you're in Atlanta, the cool shit wasn't to be
Speaker 5: on the basketball team and the football team. The cool
Speaker 5: shit was being the marching band mm cause you got
Speaker 5: to show your ass at halftime.
Speaker 2: Like that was the That was literally the shit.
Speaker 5: And you at that time you had Florida uh marching
Speaker 5: one hundred, Florida A and m u h, you had Jackson,
Speaker 5: You had all these you know, black colleges, and we were.
Speaker 2: Like putting tapes in Me and my acts.
Speaker 5: My best friend was like putting tapes in studying, like
Speaker 5: what they're doing at halftime, what's the new record that's out?
Speaker 2: Being able to play that at the next football game
Speaker 2: good So for for me, it was. It wasn't music
Speaker 2: as a hustle. It was I was already doing it
Speaker 2: before I understood that you can make money from it.
Speaker 1: M now one of the most things I've expected about you.
Speaker 1: I had to have hit my man Ron Mossman.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: More about Drake.
Speaker 18: So we got genius community member shy Ink. His question
Speaker 18: is what was it like working with Drake early on
Speaker 18: in his career on Shut It Down? And why haven't
Speaker 18: you worked together since?
Speaker 2: No shout out shout out to Drake and when he's
Speaker 2: done with his career. Like I said before, I was.
Speaker 5: Just like a real like student of how these things go.
Speaker 5: And it's and I remember when Drake was putting this
Speaker 5: record together. That's getting calls at the calls at the
Speaker 5: calls like YO, get on this record, Get on this record,
Speaker 5: Like YO, get on this record. I said, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do the record man, like I'm on tour, like I'm
Speaker 5: gonna do the record as soon as I get took
Speaker 5: like so I'm gonna do it, Drake.
Speaker 2: Call like YO, like this is how I want to
Speaker 2: sound like Drake. I'm gonna do this record how I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do it right.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give it back to you in the same
Speaker 5: way you sit there with your first I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm i'm'na send.
Speaker 2: It back to you.
Speaker 5: It was like, okay, cool, no problem. And the record
Speaker 5: came out great. You know, I think you know it
Speaker 5: came came out great. What a lot of people do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it came out great. I think when the next
Speaker 2: album came along. Since somebody wants to know why we
Speaker 2: never worked again.
Speaker 5: I asked him to get on the record, and he
Speaker 5: never got on the record, And so I'm only gonna
Speaker 5: asks you once, especially if I've already done something for you.
Speaker 5: So that went through to these people to directulate to him,
Speaker 5: and whatever that thing was, then that was it. So
Speaker 5: that's the end of the drinking dream era of a record.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously amazing artist you are. He he's a
Speaker 2: great artist for his own right.
Speaker 5: Collaborations are nice, and collaborations are great, and sometimes I
Speaker 5: just could just be great without you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now.
Speaker 1: That's morals. Yeah, that's like old school morals right there.
Speaker 1: Like I've done so many records with people and then
Speaker 1: they not reciprocated the favorite that.
Speaker 5: So it's the it's the it's the most treacherous thing
Speaker 5: that could happen, but I I forgave them.
Speaker 2: Oh well, of course, but so so what w W
Speaker 2: What was going.
Speaker 1: Through your mind at that moment when you because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, sometimes you could give a
Speaker 1: person a wave. That's what that means, Like you can
Speaker 1: be so hot yourself that when you get on the record,
Speaker 1: they can build a whole audience around your audience that
Speaker 1: you helped.
Speaker 2: Introduce them to.
Speaker 1: And then that person. I'm an artist and one hundred
Speaker 1: percent I I I LA. I didn't look at that
Speaker 1: as a distance drake at all. There's no way, shape,
Speaker 1: form or fashion. I looked at it as a person
Speaker 1: with morals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean that's it. It was.
Speaker 5: I had to go to my gravite, like, not because
Speaker 5: it's a personal thing, just because I have to still
Speaker 5: set an example for the ship that I say that
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do, you know, like it's a lot of
Speaker 5: if I ain't do some shit that I want supposed.
Speaker 2: To call me out, let me know, because it made
Speaker 2: it could have been I forgot it could have been.
Speaker 5: You know, whatever it is, it doesn't make it right
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, because that's.
Speaker 2: Not where I come from.
Speaker 5: That's not how I was raised. That's not how I am,
Speaker 5: you know, like, yeah, my word is just just my word.
Speaker 5: However I need to make it up, you know, however
Speaker 5: whatever it is that I need to do so. And
Speaker 5: at the time, I mean, the whole situation was forgiven
Speaker 5: because the ship is petty like that, that would be petty,
Speaker 5: you know, in a way to hold that against somebody
Speaker 5: or whatever was going through and transforming in his own
Speaker 5: life at the time.
Speaker 2: I just I know, probably as you get older, you
Speaker 2: start to think about.
Speaker 5: Things a little bit different though, and say, oh shit,
Speaker 5: now I get why x y Z.
Speaker 2: Yeah we've seen each other.
Speaker 5: He's recorded at my studio on it Atlanta and and
Speaker 5: and everything like and like yo, what's up?
Speaker 2: Like just like literally before that, but after after he
Speaker 2: knew what was what was what was up? Like all
Speaker 2: our camps. This music business isn't that far stretched the
Speaker 2: part where nobody does know what is going on. Everybody
Speaker 2: knows what's going on and for for whatever reasons at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, And niggas know how I am.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not a bitter person. I think most things, if
Speaker 5: you can control them, control them. What you can't you
Speaker 5: don't like, don't worry about it, just just move the
Speaker 5: fuck on. So it wasn't it wasn't no no ill
Speaker 5: fated thing about that. It was more so about what
Speaker 5: my grandfather taught me. Like, yo, man, you said, you
Speaker 5: go do something, you need to do it, and if
Speaker 5: you don't, you need to show somebody you can live
Speaker 5: without it, you know. And that's that's that's just where
Speaker 5: I am and just where I come from.
Speaker 2: That was that was all, you know what that set
Speaker 2: you the old school morals. And it is petty too,
Speaker 2: But listen, because when somebody going on me, I never
Speaker 2: forget it, like I almost. I'm just being.
Speaker 19: Honest, petty gay, petty gang, I waited, listen, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not really more.
Speaker 5: I'm not really petty in none of the sense of
Speaker 5: that because people go through certain shit and everybody know
Speaker 5: what you know at the time, and everybody doesn't know
Speaker 5: what you know and how to react to what you
Speaker 5: know at that time. They haven't learned it yet to
Speaker 5: make you grown just because you have more money than
Speaker 5: the other person, or oh I'm more experienced because like, no, motherfuckers,
Speaker 5: I got the experience, Like I'm the motherfucker that's in
Speaker 5: the music business that didn't break till he was thirty,
Speaker 5: and they had a regular job with regular people in
Speaker 5: real traffic and shit. So when the bigger percentages of
Speaker 5: the artists that work in this business were able to
Speaker 5: drop what they did and start working in it at
Speaker 5: sixteen seventeen, I'm like, well, fifteen, I lost my mom.
Speaker 2: In nineteen I lost my grandfather. So the parents that
Speaker 2: raise me ain't.
Speaker 5: I had to go completely to the workforce and get here.
Speaker 5: It wasn't because I knew some niggas down the street
Speaker 5: and I got on you know, that's not I had
Speaker 5: to split that time. I had to sleep two hours
Speaker 5: a day for years they only off two hours, to
Speaker 5: the point now I can't even go to sleep, you know.
Speaker 5: So I go to sleep, well, no I want to go.
Speaker 2: I don't try. And this shit just don't work.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: The difference what you're saying and I'm saying is sometimes
Speaker 2: you deal with.
Speaker 1: An artist management or you deal with and that's the
Speaker 1: problem is it's different, right, and so now I can
Speaker 1: understand that point.
Speaker 2: But if I ever dealt with you directly, there was
Speaker 2: a phone call with where me and you, I do take.
Speaker 1: It way personal more than I should have like you
Speaker 1: should you know what I'm saying, because I don't care
Speaker 1: what I do in life. Like if you tell me
Speaker 1: something and we have a bond, if you don't have
Speaker 1: a ball, I don't give a fuck. Like I don't
Speaker 1: care if I don't have a ball. But if you
Speaker 1: give me have a bond and you tell me something,
Speaker 1: I expect you to delive because I'm an deliver on
Speaker 1: my part of whatever you ask me.
Speaker 2: I'm so in love with the idea of knowledge.
Speaker 5: I rather sacrifice myself and how I feel about somebody
Speaker 5: or whether I'm mad at them or not if they
Speaker 5: were just to learn it from whatever aspect they learned
Speaker 5: it from, and just you know, wrap it back around
Speaker 5: and just.
Speaker 2: Say, oh cool, I learned that shit that you were
Speaker 2: saying to me or what we went through.
Speaker 5: I'm more in love with that than I am about
Speaker 5: being hasty and just genamous for no reason because it
Speaker 5: doesn't make any sense. And to be in love with
Speaker 5: knowledge is a whole different idea, you know, But to
Speaker 5: watch another person learn something versus.
Speaker 2: Spiting them, like, I'd rather you just know.
Speaker 5: Like even if you did it to me and I'm like,
Speaker 5: you fuck me up, because we like forty fucking g's.
Speaker 5: But you understand what the fuck happened, and you can
Speaker 5: go on in life and do the next shit because
Speaker 5: I'm blessed enough to be able to rebound after that.
Speaker 2: If I wasn't in maybe good forgiving. Yeah, that's blessed.
Speaker 2: That's someone to be able to do that with forty
Speaker 2: You gotta relay. Still thinking about this girl right now.
Speaker 2: I just out there. This is what we do, man dream.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you understand. This is drink Champs.
Speaker 2: We've been doing this. We sually celebrated our hundreds episodes.
Speaker 2: We're still celebrating on.
Speaker 1: We're still celebrating because you know, this is the first
Speaker 1: time people that are a part of the artistry, a
Speaker 1: part of culture, the culture, you know, from a DJ
Speaker 1: mix tape, DJ regular DJ to an artist and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm searching out and gone. I wanted to control all media.
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep you know, I wanted us to
Speaker 1: support us, you know what I mean. When you hear like,
Speaker 1: you know, even the four four four.
Speaker 2: Album and you hear Jay talking about like you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, that's that's what the time is for, That's
Speaker 2: what the time is for.
Speaker 1: So in a weird way you're doing that, like whether
Speaker 1: you was conscious or unconscious of it. I just see
Speaker 1: on the internet at Google and that's at your album
Speaker 1: and I'm hopefully this is the first interview that you did.
Speaker 2: You didn't even know that, right, No, I mean you
Speaker 2: don't revolved, so we you. I mean you have to
Speaker 2: provoke conference so you know, everything is run around. But
Speaker 2: this is what we do over here. But we also
Speaker 2: have fun with our artists, right, and we also say
Speaker 2: that so we have to actually dream, just dream, he asked.
Speaker 2: Of course, all right, damn you asked that question that
Speaker 2: we're Twinter Twin Twin. Let's come over here, Twin Twin,
Speaker 2: come over here, because talk about asking the game, just
Speaker 2: asking the game.
Speaker 1: Listen. Man, he had he got into an accident, but
Speaker 1: he's still out here running the things.
Speaker 3: Come on asking me the mike set the mic up
Speaker 3: for asking listen.
Speaker 2: This is this is this is Twin Eddie to ask you.
Speaker 2: This is Eddie to asking the student.
Speaker 1: We all we have a person on our show called
Speaker 1: Eddie to ask either and he he't make it today,
Speaker 1: but this Twin Twin, tell him, tell him, tell him
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 2: You radio killer? Yeah, he's just ask any ass. He
Speaker 2: was at the top of the day that.
Speaker 5: Ship with your faces and ass though, that's all he does.
Speaker 2: That is a professional. Now you a professional to tell him? Yeah,
Speaker 2: don you gotta with the click all that ship is
Speaker 2: the same time, you know what I'm saying, while you're
Speaker 2: eating the ass. God damn yeah, you gotta every day man, Yeah, yeah, Okay, guys,
Speaker 2: it's a great as. Actually, I can't tell y'all don't
Speaker 2: have any RN be motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: A part it's ass.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you a professional ass either. The way
Speaker 1: you describing it. You looked at him like, of course
Speaker 1: a post. Of course you do click, that's all I
Speaker 1: got that.
Speaker 2: You just robbed that. You gotta take a shot.
Speaker 8: You don't do no, Twin said, come on, Twin twenty
Speaker 8: recently had an accident.
Speaker 2: He's been on drink Chance since day one. We love
Speaker 2: this guy. I still got ma. I'm good you got
Speaker 2: your non full and you know fifty SI don't even
Speaker 2: drink fifty did full. I'm just throwing that out there.
Speaker 2: We gotta represent for the R and B world. I'm
Speaker 2: just throwing it out there.
Speaker 5: Have some RB people is gonna really I need the
Speaker 5: ass tonight and this ain't gonna help.
Speaker 2: No, it's gonna You don't know what's First of all,
Speaker 2: it's two minute guys saying this at the same time. Okay,
Speaker 2: an the horse going up to more listening everybody on
Speaker 2: the car.
Speaker 5: You're good, can't y'all wonder what y'all trying to get
Speaker 5: me fucking drunk?
Speaker 2: I said, listen, you gotta relax. Drink y'all from the hood, y'all,
Speaker 2: come on, you know what's going y'all. No to a
Speaker 2: white man, you are kind of party. This kind of
Speaker 2: fucking party?
Speaker 5: Is this man?
Speaker 2: Get you here right here here, yo, This is the
Speaker 2: twin Man.
Speaker 18: This is the this is the.
Speaker 2: Dream, the twin Man, High tag boss, the first term
Speaker 2: b dude here right right, you're ahead. Thank you for
Speaker 2: showing love to.
Speaker 12: Twin We can't twin.
Speaker 2: We want you to know that we love you dream.
Speaker 2: We want you to know that everything you did with
Speaker 2: this culture, every time you went in there and made women,
Speaker 2: you know, love men every time. And look, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: telling this shot and I gotta ask you, man, you
Speaker 2: killed that v H one signs ship you scared to
Speaker 2: do it? Hey, no, I feel this is the gifts.
Speaker 2: I went to another show. Gifts. Man, I'm drunk.
Speaker 10: If you kid from the drink your ship take dream?
Speaker 2: Sorry you did you tell this shot? Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2: Let's go dream.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go dream ship solo solo solow.
Speaker 2: I don't want to drink it all right? Yeah? I dream?
Speaker 2: Do you make love to your own ship?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't know what you ships so bad? I just
Speaker 2: want to see if the fire shoes gonna come out
Speaker 2: of my mouth.
Speaker 20: But I do you know ship?
Speaker 2: You know you're very You're very smart. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: y'all gotta keep up. But listen, listen. Do you make
Speaker 2: love to your own ship? Because that's a that's a
Speaker 2: real ship, right there. No, I just played it.
Speaker 20: I just played the track by itself and then single
Speaker 20: on top of Oh you killed that, he killed that.
Speaker 20: I'm trying to picture that. That wouldn't work for a
Speaker 20: rapping like yeah, just put the instrumentals in.
Speaker 2: They go from love. Somebody always said, what's your go
Speaker 2: to songs to sing? Go to songs and fancy with Swiss.
Speaker 2: It's not, Oh you know all nigga, You're not a
Speaker 2: fancy nigger. Can please hoot me on.
Speaker 5: I just told you hoosie who we just described the whoshie. Please,
Speaker 5: I need you to play fancy now but cool. We
Speaker 5: were singing for us, please singing ship. We don't play
Speaker 5: music on this bark at a dream we're doing it.
Speaker 2: We can't, we can't, we can't, but I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to hear it out right now. I can't play.
Speaker 1: We can't use it because yeah, come yeah, translation my
Speaker 1: niggas no no, so I can clean.
Speaker 3: Sorry that was.
Speaker 5: Never so.
Speaker 2: Let's say beast everything.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm mad at you right now. I've never heard this moment.
Speaker 2: I'm mad at myself as a dream fan. But let it.
Speaker 2: Let it drop though, let me drop first. I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to this. Oh ya as a dream fair
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed. I've never heard this. We got
Speaker 2: as Google blade, so they.
Speaker 7: Got for.
Speaker 2: Gus. He was Jesus, Okay, okay, come on home. Listen
Speaker 2: and Dreams Dream Trips to Monaco from head to could
Speaker 2: be five figure listen. By the way, he's about hebroouby
Speaker 2: the only guy that.
Speaker 1: When they hit me, I said, yo, I want dream
Speaker 1: to do the podcast, and then they said, dream do
Speaker 1: the podcast?
Speaker 2: I said, aulso want to dreaming to a record. You're
Speaker 2: the only nigga.
Speaker 1: We got one hundred and five episodes we have in
Speaker 1: on the kids on this episode out five. You're the
Speaker 1: only nigga. I gotta have a dream record. Now, how
Speaker 1: would you do a Norwega record? Let's just describe that?
Speaker 2: Right? We got Empire in the building. Let's how would describe?
Speaker 2: But norma yea like what we want to do. We
Speaker 2: gotta go, we gotta. I got too many he's gonna
Speaker 2: get Let me, let me give you give you. I
Speaker 2: got too many male fans, crazy, got too many male
Speaker 2: fan juices. Right now, I'm here, tell many male fans.
Speaker 2: Tell me your stories.
Speaker 1: Too many male fans. It's a problem female fans. I
Speaker 1: don't know where you're gonna like it.
Speaker 2: I like you. You gotta scratch it. Scratch it. That's
Speaker 2: a horrible scratch that was too easy to make. Now
Speaker 2: we're going club? Are we going club? See?
Speaker 5: I can tell when niggas have damn too. If you
Speaker 5: don't worry about the goddamn club, tell me tell me
Speaker 5: how this will go.
Speaker 2: Let's just make the motherfuckers just how you do you
Speaker 2: like who just how you what you moment You're gonna
Speaker 2: be okay? You getting ready to go? Three phases to
Speaker 2: the song this is it is? Is it getting ready
Speaker 2: to go out? Song? You're out song, ain't back home song?
Speaker 2: This is a three different songs, those songs the harvy
Speaker 2: songs that end because there never be one song for
Speaker 2: all of us. This is so genius.
Speaker 5: It can, but it's not really you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You can, you can kind of smooth one end to
Speaker 5: the others like you can't. But when you get back
Speaker 5: to the house, that song usually belongs to me.
Speaker 2: Oh it turned down, and if it don't, you last
Speaker 2: like thirty three seconds.
Speaker 5: I can't do nothing about that because fancy is six
Speaker 5: minutes and forty seconds to forty seven seconds long. The
Speaker 5: last thing you smoke the blunt a blood but or
Speaker 5: I just do I just do the the whites, you know,
Speaker 5: so right, Yeah, I don't smoke blunts.
Speaker 2: No said, don't smoke buns.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because in my insurance there's a little thing that happen,
Speaker 5: a policy thing that says serious, which has nothing to
Speaker 5: do with the.
Speaker 2: White paper on ok put the tobacco. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would if you know something happens to me.
Speaker 5: I would love my kids to get that eighty six
Speaker 5: million those versus saying that tobacco the.
Speaker 2: Same way as it takes tests. In school, I had
Speaker 2: had a system. Yes, no, yes, the Christmas yes, I
Speaker 2: just know there, But everywhere else I had a system.
Speaker 2: You're I was. I was a foul. I'm sorry. In
Speaker 2: school it was different. I'm sorry you guys. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what they do.
Speaker 5: So I didn't show up at togethern funeral and Ship,
Speaker 5: well he was leading a bad life. You're smoking tobacco.
Speaker 5: We've seen him on the show. Listen to everybody know
Speaker 5: I ain't smoke Ship.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen. You know why You're gonna live forever?
Speaker 1: Because hip hop and R and B, like you know
Speaker 1: and and like like the legends, sometimes we just live forever.
Speaker 2: Like the niggas in England.
Speaker 19: The niggas in England is nine hundred, but they are
Speaker 19: like they're like like them niggas don't little all the
Speaker 19: rock boots from England and like hip hop is like
Speaker 19: the new rock.
Speaker 21: Yeah, like, hey, he lived he lived with Source, except
Speaker 21: didn't make it tonight Hunter, Oh damn, I forgot about him.
Speaker 21: But you you took focusing on one person. There's all
Speaker 21: of them other niggas is out there.
Speaker 2: And I see that this alcohol is affecting you, but
Speaker 2: it's not affecting me at all. I really love it,
Speaker 2: I know, and I love my job.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to make sure that what it was
Speaker 5: going to do, because no, no, I was doing. Ultimately,
Speaker 5: my wife has to beate a price for this, but
Speaker 5: should be fine.
Speaker 2: She's great. She's great, and you're married.
Speaker 1: Listen you you've always handled your relationships in public.
Speaker 2: Excellent. See somebody finally saying this ship that's thinking like
Speaker 2: like you, you ain't petty at all as zero.
Speaker 5: And and you even just did a record with to
Speaker 5: dollars songs and way, actually I've done like records on
Speaker 5: Wayne's new album, The New Qualified, And that means.
Speaker 2: I'm really not petty for real. Okay, okay, I understand.
Speaker 2: I think that's the most unpetty is you could be.
Speaker 2: Let's make some other.
Speaker 1: All right, you are, I've undercepted you in the petty game,
Speaker 1: and I gotta release.
Speaker 2: Release.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because that is a real grown man ship.
Speaker 2: Like it's like yo that you know.
Speaker 1: People, relationships got nothing new relationships you whatever, like and
Speaker 1: you tied out of way.
Speaker 5: I saw that we're all just people, and I think
Speaker 5: I think the I think in the end, especially in
Speaker 5: this culture, you know, we're not like this. This isn't
Speaker 5: This isn't us. It's not in us to be this way.
Speaker 5: This country has kind of made us a certain type
Speaker 5: of way, but it's just not in us to be
Speaker 5: that way. I think we're giving when we can give,
Speaker 5: and nobody hours away from a moment to be a hero.
Speaker 5: It's just less and less of those times that we
Speaker 5: get to become one, or that is seen or that
Speaker 5: is celebrated. You know, like nobody wakes up if there's
Speaker 5: a kid in front of a car, doesn't want to
Speaker 5: push the kid out the way, you know, say their life,
Speaker 5: you know, even if it means ends ending your own.
Speaker 5: So there's a hero part to it, you know that
Speaker 5: I think exists in the culture. We just don't get
Speaker 5: to prove it often enough, or it's not shown often
Speaker 5: enough either. Man, it's not shown true.
Speaker 1: God damn it, dream man. I try to try to
Speaker 1: put him in the pretty game. He broke out of it,
Speaker 1: broke out, he.
Speaker 2: Broke out man.
Speaker 1: Listen, look, Coop, we gotta salute you more dream we
Speaker 1: got to this culture, not just.
Speaker 2: Hip hop, R and B, every everything. It's gotta because
Speaker 2: you're one of the greats. Do you recognize yourself as
Speaker 2: one of the greatest?
Speaker 4: Not you?
Speaker 2: Why I got so much more? That's a good answer.
Speaker 2: That's a good answer. That's a great answer. You more? So?
Speaker 2: What did?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: What do you want to? What is dream?
Speaker 5: I ultimately want these songs that are right for three
Speaker 5: minutes and thirty seconds to last for about.
Speaker 2: An hour and a half. So that's where I'm a
Speaker 2: dyslexic and I was only.
Speaker 5: So I want these songs of three minutes and thirty
Speaker 5: seconds to last four hour and thirty minutes. So I
Speaker 5: just want to take those short stories. The hardest thing
Speaker 5: to do is to put a fucking story in a
Speaker 5: minute and three I'll just be able to elaborate, which
Speaker 5: is easy.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy.
Speaker 5: Are treatments, Yeah, it was a treatment because you don't
Speaker 5: have to cut out the details.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I'll get a detail this ship.
Speaker 5: If I was writing fucking short about me and fucking
Speaker 5: Nord right now, I get to write the details of
Speaker 5: what the fuck we're going through today here, Please that's
Speaker 5: doing these types.
Speaker 2: Just keep paying the picture. I love it.
Speaker 5: You're gonna here we wake up. Hey, y'all need we
Speaker 5: go meet at the studio. But the truth is we
Speaker 5: never actually gonna make it to the studio at least
Speaker 5: be in this whole day.
Speaker 6: Yea.
Speaker 2: So we spend this whole day trying to get to
Speaker 2: the studio to do fucking song. Okay, that's never happens.
Speaker 2: So it's never happens. Okay, movie doesn't mean it doesn't
Speaker 2: happen in real life.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the ploy.
Speaker 5: The idea of it, though, is just trying so hard
Speaker 5: and when you really try to grip tight to do something,
Speaker 5: that ship never comes out right when you try your
Speaker 5: hardest to get it right. So you started they trying
Speaker 5: to get the move right. You go buy a pound
Speaker 5: from so and so over there you get your blood.
Speaker 5: Just ship ain't going right, getting pulled over. You have
Speaker 5: to flush and ship. You all gotta go back and
Speaker 5: do this ship. Your day is long, My day is long.
Speaker 2: R and b ship. Try to get one bitch.
Speaker 5: I'll get another bitch in like, yeah, we gonna meet
Speaker 5: in the studio. Times already fucked up, were sucking it up,
Speaker 5: but we're trying too hard to make the situation right
Speaker 5: and make the right record.
Speaker 2: That's have you read the treatment? No, I'm writing it
Speaker 2: right now like I know you are before. Yes, No,
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 1: My next question was, have you ever gave somebody a
Speaker 1: record and they even came back with the worst video treatment?
Speaker 2: Neighborhood. That's the people over there too. They said that
Speaker 2: they were all down together. He had the vision. I
Speaker 2: just let people, the fans designed what videos? They're like,
Speaker 2: what video you was so mad at?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: I tell you that. No, I know, and I don't
Speaker 2: want to throw you tell me just telling them nobody listening.
Speaker 2: I can't say it.
Speaker 5: But there has been times where you're like, you know,
Speaker 5: you have you grow hefty appetite when you humbrella is
Speaker 5: the video that comes back on your song and your
Speaker 5: soul is hot and you're like, oh fuck yes, and
Speaker 5: then somebody goes down from there. It was all fuck,
Speaker 5: fuck my song up the fun Why were you there
Speaker 5: in the swamp doing my fuck this song?
Speaker 2: That's definitely says the beach. It's hits.
Speaker 5: That's why I said it swamp, because I haven't there's
Speaker 5: no videos in the swamp.
Speaker 2: There is no clue.
Speaker 1: He's very swamp. We're not getting him nowhere. He's taking shots.
Speaker 1: It's nothing we can get. That would be greaty, that
Speaker 1: would be awkward if somebody had to be like, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. We're protecting you over.
Speaker 2: I appreciate what we got. You protect me out all
Speaker 2: that outside they got all. So now, what's your favorite liquor?
Speaker 2: This is drink Champs.
Speaker 1: We drink liquor, our favorite liquor to write ahead all anything,
Speaker 1: all the process to write about like what is it?
Speaker 2: Like? What? But back in the day it was patrol.
Speaker 2: Now is that that's a great This makes a noise?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: Because see I noticed that people that drink to kuilla
Speaker 1: those are people you know, you know for people that
Speaker 1: don't drink to quilla.
Speaker 2: That's straight down to the bottom.
Speaker 1: Like it's like because you can't just drink killer and
Speaker 1: be depends on the tequila though, So what I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: how could you drink tequila and like write these amazing lyrics.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I didn't need to drink to write or
Speaker 5: small Oh you know this ship is the purely your
Speaker 5: celebration of what then has been done. Yeah, I'm like, hi,
Speaker 5: already when I wake up, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't need anything that actually just slows me the
Speaker 2: fuck down, that s fucked me up. I can't write.
Speaker 2: I can't write ship without the marijuana. Marijuana, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you man, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: You don't have to drink. You're the summer chain. I
Speaker 2: don't vocals. I don't drink.
Speaker 1: But when I actually write the vocals, I'll drink all
Speaker 1: day and I'll be I'll be like, I'll be by myself.
Speaker 1: I don't be around nobody, like I just sit there
Speaker 1: but to layer, I will not drink hazard day.
Speaker 2: You know, write I don't drink. And sometimes when I drink.
Speaker 1: The reason why when I drink, I gotta lay it back.
Speaker 1: I gotta redo the vocals so many times that it's
Speaker 1: just not worth it. I just I have all the
Speaker 1: liquor in the studio has a and then I do it.
Speaker 1: I lay it sober, and then we get fucked up.
Speaker 2: Well I didn't. I didn't. I didn't drink or or
Speaker 2: smoke until I was thirty, so you might, yeah, we
Speaker 2: drink or smoke.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a path that I that I made,
Speaker 5: you know, with myself and I was just like, I'm
Speaker 5: not drinking or smoke until I got a million dollars.
Speaker 2: So that's when I first son fucking death listen for
Speaker 2: some of us or smoke. They made a million dollars.
Speaker 2: That it is hard. That is hard. I was trying
Speaker 2: to motivate. I don't even want to say I was
Speaker 2: trying to motivate earlier. I was trying to motivate, But
Speaker 2: damn I should have used something like that. That was
Speaker 2: you know, the l O V. He still want to
Speaker 2: fight the system.
Speaker 9: He got out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not yo. They threw out my case.
Speaker 2: I said, they threw out their case because they think
Speaker 2: you're crazy.
Speaker 1: They think you crazy, You motherfucker like and he's like,
Speaker 1: I want to soothe them.
Speaker 2: Now you're lucky. Don't go back into the swamp with
Speaker 2: the just all.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: You know, So, what's your favorite moment in music period?
Speaker 2: All around ninety five MTV Music Awards. I'm like, God, damn,
Speaker 2: what you do? This is the first thing?
Speaker 17: What do you do?
Speaker 2: You remember? Fucking Mike came back and then I got
Speaker 2: damn move Walking ninety five music?
Speaker 5: What I just for the listeners that whole fucking Metalley
Speaker 5: that lasted like forty minutes, and it was like, oh,
Speaker 5: no commercial break again for Michael. He had been gone
Speaker 5: and he left. He did Blood from the Dance Lloyd,
Speaker 5: he did all this ship. He's over your fucking with
Speaker 5: whatever fuck he was doing. And that was the first
Speaker 5: time we really saw him coming. It's like, Yo, Michaels,
Speaker 5: be on here. We got ready all week for that ship, Like,
Speaker 5: oh ship, Mike Finner come out and Nigga did smooth criminals.
Speaker 2: Ship and put the criminal Nigga did the lead came back.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, ship, Mike's got crazy. That's the first
Speaker 2: time of war was introduced. No come back. He looked
Speaker 2: when he did it. I was jealous.
Speaker 5: He didn't miss the fucking step He missed a fucking
Speaker 5: step mother. Amazing Prince no man story with him, the.
Speaker 2: Story you ain't gonna you ain't got a Prince store. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Prince to death. May you rest in peace for that
Speaker 2: guy that get this. It's a good one. So I'm
Speaker 2: doing this record with Mary J. Blige and it has
Speaker 2: that Prince vibe to it.
Speaker 5: So so at the time, it's just like, all right, cool,
Speaker 5: we're gonna getting over the Prince, you know, like, let
Speaker 5: him take a stab at it, do a couple of things,
Speaker 5: a little bit, you know, do a thing.
Speaker 2: And of course he's like, yeah, you know, I do
Speaker 2: whatever y'all need me to deal with.
Speaker 5: So they send the record over to him and Ship,
Speaker 5: and I'm just actually just saying what I think I
Speaker 5: think the conversation with. So send the record to Prince
Speaker 5: Princess the record record back and Ship.
Speaker 2: He didn't sing none of the parts that Mary wanted
Speaker 2: him to see.
Speaker 5: But he's he's like playing all of the track and
Speaker 5: Ship going crazy, like just going crazy and Ship, but
Speaker 5: in the prince type of way. Lad to death, like
Speaker 5: I said. But so marys me, He's like, yo, man
Speaker 5: sucking Prince record. Man, he's just played all over the ship.
Speaker 2: Man, Like, how do you talk to him?
Speaker 5: I'm like, ship, fucking Prince. You're gonna say, like you
Speaker 5: gotta take the hell? No, you know, I don't even
Speaker 5: think we put the record. We probably stay record.
Speaker 2: So so so she she she got the courage. She's like,
Speaker 2: you know what you eat, I'm just gonna call him.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call him up. I'm gonna call him right now,
Speaker 2: call you back, all right? Cool? Mary gets out the
Speaker 2: phone with me.
Speaker 5: Your phone, I guess she's calling Prince and this kind
Speaker 5: of how that ship had to go.
Speaker 2: She's like, uh, Prince, yeah I got the I got
Speaker 2: the record back.
Speaker 5: But you know the I just wanted you to do
Speaker 5: this one part of me and sing the you know,
Speaker 5: just just sing a little bit of it and just
Speaker 5: play a little bit at the end.
Speaker 2: What you don't like it? No, it's not really the
Speaker 2: and I don't like you know, I'm just saying. I
Speaker 2: mean because we was over this bitch jamming like a mother.
Speaker 2: That's literally was the conment.
Speaker 5: Me and this bitch jamming like they're playing your ship
Speaker 5: in the back and it says good to them what
Speaker 5: you're saying. You told me that ship I just fell out,
Speaker 5: Like I told you, fucking.
Speaker 2: Prince, like what happened. Yeah, I can just don't call.
Speaker 5: Just let leave a cool whatever you want to do, dog,
Speaker 5: straighten that ship up later.
Speaker 1: Now you have had one of those in the session
Speaker 1: with you where you work with somebody you looked up
Speaker 1: to and they fucking up.
Speaker 2: You gotta be like, can you old?
Speaker 1: Because me, I'll tell you I'm gonna suck come out
Speaker 1: like ship good. This type of nigga I'm like, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna tell him it ain't.
Speaker 2: Good you you you.
Speaker 5: Know, I mind I been I do catch your release.
Speaker 5: I have no idea what you said to catch your releases?
Speaker 5: When this when you've done did this ship so long
Speaker 5: with some motherfuckers that's just gifted? Don't tell them nothing
Speaker 5: wrong with they song.
Speaker 2: Just I'm talking about like actually like making a song. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh you're making a song. Even if they're doing something
Speaker 2: that's not to you don't liking and you're in there
Speaker 2: with a great motherfucker. Don't say ship okay, okay, no,
Speaker 2: you just you just that's how you feel like, oh
Speaker 2: ship all right?
Speaker 5: Cool, because they ain't about it being bad when motherfucker's great,
Speaker 5: they're great.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they just just be doing something that's not great.
Speaker 5: You you can do this, no, not like that, just
Speaker 5: just in a way maybe a delivery of something like
Speaker 5: you should have been a little bit softer on that,
Speaker 5: but it ain't critique time.
Speaker 2: As soon as they leave, you have to.
Speaker 5: Just all right, cool, I'm gone go shopping real quick,
Speaker 5: go to Birder, go for good and give me a
Speaker 5: couple of things. Come back, and by the time you
Speaker 5: get back, they're so fucking great. The great ones are
Speaker 5: so fucking great. They answered they fucking question and you're
Speaker 5: you're like, thank god, and you had to bring that
Speaker 5: ship up. And they ain't bad, right because they're great.
Speaker 5: That's how they fucking got there. They already they're already
Speaker 5: picking at themselves at a point and in a certain
Speaker 5: type of way that you can never pick the shit apart.
Speaker 5: You can't tell be saying something like it's fucked up,
Speaker 5: like she knows what, she knows what to do, you know, like,
Speaker 5: so you can't.
Speaker 2: You just have to give them, you know, anybody that time.
Speaker 5: That's great, and they'll come back to their own ship
Speaker 5: and say, I think I could do that hook like this,
Speaker 5: I think that'll be better, and in your mind you
Speaker 5: just like, thank god, I ain't have to say nothing
Speaker 5: about that. And when they need your fucking input, they'll
Speaker 5: ask you. The great ones do it's theill motherfuckers in
Speaker 5: the middle. You can't tell them, motherfucking ship now correct nothing.
Speaker 5: I think this shit dope. It's dope enough for the
Speaker 5: number one ninety eight on the chance.
Speaker 2: But whatever you say, bet, I'm with you. Get my
Speaker 2: money up front. Have you ever been wrong? Have you
Speaker 2: ever gave advice and you was wrong. I'm wrong all
Speaker 2: the time. I'm all right than wrong, though, like ninety
Speaker 2: what's what's something you was wrong on? Like an artist
Speaker 2: wanted to work with you or something or something like that.
Speaker 5: I'm never wrong on that type of ship. I was
Speaker 5: just saying in life in general, Okay, yeah, this music shop,
Speaker 5: I got this ship.
Speaker 2: Don't lock. Let's make some noise for that. I'm just saying, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a cigarette break down, the bathroom break
Speaker 2: real quick, you're cool, and then we get five more
Speaker 2: minutes here. I got bathroom breaks this year. Take bathroom
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lock.
Speaker 5: That's the city player, like, you know, you gotta at
Speaker 5: least take one Bathroomlet.
Speaker 2: Back wrong. So you know this is this is like
Speaker 2: a new part of the show that I'm.
Speaker 6: Run.
Speaker 2: This is you know you'll never run by me. You lead.
Speaker 2: They all have conversations, but no, this is the part
Speaker 2: I'm just seeing. This is gonna work.
Speaker 1: I've pulled up one of your tweets, right it You says,
Speaker 1: aks your favorites, how many times they played me before
Speaker 1: the inspiration kicked in? Then you tagged it meek Mill
Speaker 1: and you said it and then you say said it
Speaker 1: best Jimmy foulon.
Speaker 2: Dream You thought, mm, what did what did that? Tweet? Me?
Speaker 5: Me and me and me and my brother Meek just
Speaker 5: did a record on foul and maybe like a month
Speaker 5: and a half, two months ago, young black American.
Speaker 2: And I'm walking in and let's just say he has
Speaker 2: a certain thing that he he did. He's like, yo, man,
Speaker 2: I will you know I that meet then yea, heak.
Speaker 5: Has a certain you know, he has his dream Chases logo,
Speaker 5: and I got my low logo, which is Radio Killer Records,
Speaker 5: which is the whole Rose Wars thing. And and I
Speaker 5: get ready to walk in. He was like, actually used
Speaker 5: first of that one. He was like, but I put
Speaker 5: that shit on blast, so everybody's seen it. It's like,
Speaker 5: know what your problem is?
Speaker 2: Who said?
Speaker 18: You know me?
Speaker 5: He's like, you know what your problem is? It's like
Speaker 5: you don't put enough light on it. It's like, so
Speaker 5: when you do shit, nobody really knows. He's like, you
Speaker 5: don't talk about that shit, like how you need to
Speaker 5: talk about it, you know, so that motherfuckers know, like
Speaker 5: that certain shit came from you.
Speaker 2: And when I stopped for like two seconds, I was
Speaker 2: like this motherfucker is right. It's like like you know
Speaker 2: and and I don't.
Speaker 5: And that's probably that's probably more leaning to the unartist
Speaker 5: part about me, you know. And there's nothing that I
Speaker 5: would change about that particular thing. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: at this particular point, once you once your famous, you're famous,
Speaker 5: Like there's no in between. I don't believe in in between,
Speaker 5: Like you know, take the bullshit as a as it amounts.
Speaker 2: And dollars like, and it's just is what it is, like,
Speaker 2: but go all the way, like.
Speaker 5: Don't stop or don't don't cut something short or make
Speaker 5: something half ass or do it half.
Speaker 2: As it to be done. You know, if if you're
Speaker 2: scared of at light, like run all the way to
Speaker 2: the light, you started running there in the first place.
Speaker 2: And that's he just in one.
Speaker 5: Quick second reminded me O O G me, like, yo,
Speaker 5: you don't put enough light on that ship. You gotta
Speaker 5: start talking that ship, you know, because I'm good at
Speaker 5: talking ship. But at a certain point, at certain point,
Speaker 5: it was more so I was talking to myself.
Speaker 2: So what did you adjust after he said that? What
Speaker 2: did you adjust?
Speaker 5: I'm just doing certain shit and showing certain ship now,
Speaker 5: like it's just a it's I'm just gaining a better
Speaker 5: perspective of.
Speaker 2: Inspiring others.
Speaker 5: And when there's a line that that that they both
Speaker 5: like intersect, it's like, be humble with what you have,
Speaker 5: but also you can be so humble that you seem
Speaker 5: silent about certain things you know, versus inspiring somebody else
Speaker 5: to say, you know, because only only gifted and motherfuckers
Speaker 5: that leaving themself gonna take it the right way anyway.
Speaker 5: So now it's just the point of doing shit to
Speaker 5: a certain point that makes somebody say, the motherfucker's roll around.
Speaker 5: This's bitching that fucking ghost like it ain't nothing they
Speaker 5: got ninety nine calls like and feel okay with Like,
Speaker 5: it ain't about me not being humble, Like I know
Speaker 5: where the fuck I came from. I know where my
Speaker 5: ancestors came from. I know more about my tree and
Speaker 5: the slave shift that dropped us off in South Carolina
Speaker 5: than anybody like I know about it. So I know
Speaker 5: exactly what it is, so I have to I didn't
Speaker 5: have to convince myself, but I had to just believe
Speaker 5: that and say, whatever you do have is a testament
Speaker 5: of It is a testament to hard work and being
Speaker 5: able to to persevere through anything. And the real people
Speaker 5: that feel good inside themselfs, they gonna feel like that.
Speaker 2: They want to feel like Yo, you persevered. You need
Speaker 2: to want Champagne was a great champagne call is persever
Speaker 2: It's real. This is champagne.
Speaker 1: You gotta champagne. You got like nine cups over there,
Speaker 1: can give it. You keep it in real dream, Yo, Listen,
Speaker 1: R and B Niggas is never gonna come to ours.
Speaker 1: They're gonna try.
Speaker 2: To top dream and they're gonna gonna be crazy. They're
Speaker 2: gonna die. It's R and B niggas just as tough
Speaker 2: as hip hop niggas, or they y'all might be even
Speaker 2: wilder than us.
Speaker 1: You really even thinking here, like, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: it's a D M X and R and B. That's
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown, right, that's the first that I mean that.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just keep let's get so all right,
Speaker 1: let's just g R B niggas the rappers right now, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is crazy, This is gonna be right.
Speaker 2: Who's the whole of R and B? Because you let
Speaker 2: the who's you let the quincy who's the whole of
Speaker 2: R and b.
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody's really replaced R. Kelly, to be
Speaker 5: honest when it comes.
Speaker 2: To that, except Kelly.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: People, and he's still a man a little bit somewhere.
Speaker 2: As much as as much as we want to like.
Speaker 15: Married, marry the idea that.
Speaker 5: Geniuses in a in a in a conformed world like it.
Speaker 5: It's not about forgiving anybody for anything. Ship is just
Speaker 5: different in that mind, like it has to be, like,
Speaker 5: you can't get that type of ship out of your
Speaker 5: body if you wanted to. The closer you are the
Speaker 5: same is the closer you are to not being gifted.
Speaker 5: So when crazy shit happens, I'm not really like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, the world's gonna end. It's like, to me,
Speaker 5: there's something that takes a certain type of way in
Speaker 5: that individual, you know, whether it be dark or like
Speaker 5: depending on what we want from him. And when we
Speaker 5: get what we want from him, we're kind of good
Speaker 5: and and when we don't, we're upset, you know. But
Speaker 5: that's not to say who a victim is or who
Speaker 5: a victim is not. Like, the point is you still
Speaker 5: live in.
Speaker 2: The real world with real people.
Speaker 5: There are rules there, you know, there are certain things,
Speaker 5: but it also begs the question the idea of time,
Speaker 5: God's religion, like it makes a different the question of
Speaker 5: what's actually real, Like what is it you know you
Speaker 5: come from a my great grandmother gave birth at thirteen.
Speaker 2: It's so faux pat now, but.
Speaker 5: That used to be a thing, like for real, it
Speaker 5: wasn't a law, Like it wasn't a like so what
Speaker 5: are we changing overall? And how far as DNA and
Speaker 5: traits actually playing into that and what they don't because
Speaker 5: most of the times you can do some shit just
Speaker 5: out of habit from what you came from.
Speaker 2: That's just regular fucking science and logic.
Speaker 5: Like you more like your father and your mother than
Speaker 5: even if you want it to not be, like, oh,
Speaker 5: I just don't to be like them, Like yeah, but
Speaker 5: you are.
Speaker 2: You may not be a composed of drug user, but
Speaker 2: you're a gambler. Like you might not be a gambler,
Speaker 2: but you're a sex you know, your sex addict or
Speaker 2: And with all that being.
Speaker 5: Said, then you may be a genius and motherfucker that
Speaker 5: gonna be inventor rit like like you're the same person
Speaker 5: that had to dream or be stupid and crazy and
Speaker 5: courageous enough to say I think.
Speaker 2: I know how to make it like has something to do.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just the idea that we're anything. No,
Speaker 2: well that was just that's just dumb ship that people say,
Speaker 2: like we're just fucking.
Speaker 5: Stupid, Like nobody's condoning anything that's not right, you know,
Speaker 5: like in society or even in your mind, like if
Speaker 5: you need help, get help, Like that's that's that's just
Speaker 5: some whole trickery ass trump ship Like that ship doesn't
Speaker 5: That ship doesn't mean anything. The truth is the the
Speaker 5: body is just more sophisticated than we want to give it.
Speaker 5: Give it credit for it, the body to mind, like
Speaker 5: what get these things from all the way to the
Speaker 5: point of why we're so detrimental to allow us to
Speaker 5: ourselves as a culture and as human beings, Like all
Speaker 5: of those things come down to traits and things that
Speaker 5: if you don't try to understand, you won't understand. Because
Speaker 5: all those days skipping science and shit is the dumb shit.
Speaker 5: You know, it should have never been science versus religion
Speaker 5: in the first place, because you can't figure out a
Speaker 5: mind like an r KL, E R or whoever it is.
Speaker 5: Of course we know in the real world. Okay, that's wrong.
Speaker 5: Like you shouldn't do that, like you should have better
Speaker 5: morals or whatever it is. And then on the flip
Speaker 5: side of that, I don't know what's in your body
Speaker 5: and in your mind. Man, I really just don't know.
Speaker 2: And I don't know whether I can say completely that
Speaker 2: an insane person is insane, because the truth is, there's
Speaker 2: just one word that actually takes you from being insane
Speaker 2: to a genius, and that's success. If you success, you're
Speaker 2: a genius. If you're not, you the crazy on the
Speaker 2: fuck under the.
Speaker 5: Bridge that everybody told, you told everybody your ideas and
Speaker 5: the shit just never took off. So that means I
Speaker 5: could be the same insane motherfucker, or you're gonna be
Speaker 5: sitting here with this nigga who's a genius is like, no, nigga,
Speaker 5: you're a genius?
Speaker 2: Like why success?
Speaker 5: That lightning in the bottle? I couldn't even control it
Speaker 5: in the first place. Beyonce didn't have to be in
Speaker 5: my time period of living, or Rihanna or or j
Speaker 5: or Kunye like all of them. Like that shit was divine,
Speaker 5: that was set up from a different thing that I
Speaker 5: had nothing to do with, you know, So I can't
Speaker 5: really I have to see both out of the play
Speaker 5: the Devil's advocate when it's you're being guided by time
Speaker 5: and in moments.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think the time shit just helps you become captile
Speaker 5: and work for society and make money and pay your
Speaker 5: fucking taxes and shit. But if we live by moments,
Speaker 5: then I think people will be better off of them.
Speaker 13: There's no debating people's creativity and how genius they are,
Speaker 13: like r Kelly, But I just want to make sure
Speaker 13: that when we go over No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, man.
Speaker 2: I think it's very serious when we're talking and.
Speaker 13: Drink champs that nobody could ever violate children or anything
Speaker 13: like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you're not saying that. I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm just putting out there for myself. Yeah, everybody knows
Speaker 2: that I have children and I love them.
Speaker 9: Today No absolutely, I'm just saying, like, like that feel
Speaker 9: awkward because I'm a DJ, and I played arklaf and
Speaker 9: I and I think he's a genius, you know what
Speaker 9: I'm saying. But I found myself in a crossroads when
Speaker 9: you start to see the things that come out and
Speaker 9: you're just like anybody.
Speaker 5: I think the crossroad is the fact that you're surprised,
Speaker 5: why should I not be anything that's on earth, Like,
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 8: Know, I'm definitely not surprised of anything that happens in
Speaker 8: the world. But that happens when you get older.
Speaker 2: When when I'm.
Speaker 3: Originally playing r Kelly, I'm a child as well, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So so I'm just saying, like
Speaker 3: when we start to grow up and you realize you're like,
Speaker 3: that's unacceptable, Well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, whatever somebody's accused of, whatever, we're thinking of, whatever's
Speaker 8: being told to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you don't know.
Speaker 5: That, that's just then that's just back to the part
Speaker 5: of society now, like it's just coming since at this
Speaker 5: point from where.
Speaker 6: I grew up.
Speaker 5: But of course motherfuckers that's listening or motherfuckers is looking
Speaker 5: at news and having.
Speaker 2: To be told and controlled. We know, not not you.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, mass people who look to news to figure
Speaker 5: out things. I think that's an important listen and just
Speaker 5: raising kids, like my my child should know coming what
Speaker 5: coming senses.
Speaker 2: Common sense is lacking in the world, which is the
Speaker 2: point why you're over trying.
Speaker 5: You're trying to overiterate what we mean, and like what
Speaker 5: we stand by and what we don't have to because yeah,
Speaker 5: because you feel like you have to because it's stupid.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker's listening right now.
Speaker 5: That's so I think they're actually saying that they agreement,
Speaker 5: like motherfucker, No, you don't get.
Speaker 2: It from don't say bigger you know I love my
Speaker 2: stupid See he said the whole crowd, like, stop stupid listeners.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, I'm stupid too, Like I understand,
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 5: That you have to say, like, oh yeah, as much
Speaker 5: as I love my kids, I kill every one of
Speaker 5: you for them, Like I have to actually say that.
Speaker 2: That's fucking nuts, Like what happened to come in sence
Speaker 2: time ago? But unfortunately but now for for four mom
Speaker 2: se me, how did that record come together? Man, tell
Speaker 2: you the truth. That's all.
Speaker 5: Jay Jay had this had this record already and he
Speaker 5: asked me to add lib to to certain things or
Speaker 5: whatever in the in the song, and it was just
Speaker 5: more him being family than anything. It's like, y'all, I
Speaker 5: want you to want you to do these vocals on
Speaker 5: this record, and it wasn't ever about a feature.
Speaker 2: It's about anything. I think.
Speaker 5: It's just the fact that, oh, it's dreams, so it
Speaker 5: should be a feature of whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But for me, it was like, oh yeah, I do
Speaker 2: the fucking background.
Speaker 5: I do so many backgrounds on so many things, like
Speaker 5: period because my whole point is to making sure that.
Speaker 2: An artist gets their story heard, you know.
Speaker 5: And get their point out, like it's not about me,
Speaker 5: it's about And I think that's the great part about
Speaker 5: being a songwriter.
Speaker 2: When it's never about you in the first place. You
Speaker 2: don't mind your artists. You're like, oh, they put my
Speaker 2: feature credit on there.
Speaker 5: You're going to fucking crazy like kick ship, call lawyers
Speaker 5: and do all kinds.
Speaker 2: Of ship that shit. It's like, did you get your
Speaker 2: point out? Did you make a great album? People love it? Awesome?
Speaker 1: I did my ship sot I dream, you know, because
Speaker 1: I am a pettant nigga in a good way.
Speaker 2: I just want to throw that out there that I
Speaker 2: need a dream record, like.
Speaker 9: Got you.
Speaker 2: When you're at you just tell me whatever you I
Speaker 2: fly wherever you at. I don't give before because I
Speaker 2: want to be at your zone. I want to be
Speaker 2: like I want to get crazy. Whatever you want to
Speaker 2: do it like, whatever you want to do if you
Speaker 2: want to be like record somewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm so if I set up to ass eating tables,
Speaker 1: you like, that's the I'm mad I watched though.
Speaker 2: You know I wasn't think like a sushi joints. I
Speaker 2: was thinking about the wives. I wasn't thinking about it'll
Speaker 2: be a dividery ship, so you won't see what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Listen to music that before you get up your dream
Speaker 2: limited something. You set the standards for the cool R
Speaker 2: and B.
Speaker 1: But in real life, I'm saying you did that. Then
Speaker 1: you did that on drinke Champs. But in real life
Speaker 1: when you contributed to the.
Speaker 2: Game, we have to salute. We have to continue to
Speaker 2: salute as a culture.
Speaker 1: You have to continue to be filled like a king
Speaker 1: and treated like a king, because that's what we are
Speaker 1: in this thing of ours.
Speaker 2: We sacrifice and we give our lives to this game.
Speaker 2: So I want you to always know that even other
Speaker 2: people like me man d J E f N, we
Speaker 2: know what you sacrifice to be in this game. We
Speaker 2: know what you're doing. We understand, and we're gonna salute
Speaker 2: that ship. Your figure. Smell me, yes that I always
Speaker 2: smell you. I say them all. I dropping me done