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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Alight, it's so live on a Thursday edition to clearve

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Speaker 2: the Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. He is the

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Speaker 2: great Gibbe doctor Z. A little bit of respite, some

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Speaker 2: downtime for the good doctor needs it.

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Speaker 3: He his parting gift to me yesterday was a list

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he's also, I mean, he's you know

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Speaker 2: there this summer, it's going to be the summers last

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Speaker 2: year with the summer is E. Another summer is E.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's going to be the well, I

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Speaker 3: don't I'm interested if that would be Miss CA's thought

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Speaker 3: that it's going to be the summer of Z. I'm

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Speaker 3: not so sure about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not either. So yeah, he's off the next couple

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Speaker 2: of days, so we will do the best week we deserve, yes,

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Speaker 2: very well deserved in his stay. So I was convinced.

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Speaker 2: We got a busy day Tommy Reskan to join us

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Speaker 2: at one forty five here in studio, so you have

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Speaker 2: that to look forward to, which is nice. He was

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Speaker 2: officially introduced as the offensive coordinator. We're gonna play some

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Speaker 2: of that audio from you, from Kevin and from Tommy

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Speaker 2: uh here. In a second, John Kaim is going to

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Speaker 2: join us, covers the commander's longtime friend. Cleveland native, Cleveland native, Lake, Ohio. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: big Buckeye fan, big Cleveland sports fan. He will join

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Speaker 2: us to preview the NFC Championship from the Washington side

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Speaker 2: of things. First time, Sin's ninety one for them to

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Speaker 2: get to an NFC Championship game, which is very very cool.

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Speaker 2: So you have that to look forward to. It's a

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Speaker 2: male big edition as well.

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Speaker 3: It is we have a we have a full day,

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Speaker 3: a little position review. Doctor zuhh went above and beyond,

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Speaker 3: knocked out a couple of things. We'll talk about the

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Speaker 3: safety room. Prior to mister Reese, Kevin in studio hit

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Speaker 3: both sides of the football. Oh yeah, I had to

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Speaker 3: take care of you.

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Speaker 2: You did. I owe Bootsy an apology. WHOA last night

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Speaker 2: last night where we had a practice. We were off

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Speaker 2: And I thought, he's going bueler. This is a bueler play,

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Speaker 2: like this is a multi level he's seen Ferris Bueller. Now,

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Speaker 2: he definitely has that.

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Speaker 3: He has taught him the ways of the dark side.

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Speaker 2: There's no question he has it well within his grasp

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Speaker 2: to put on a show like this and to get

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Speaker 2: my wife's favor. Basically, he winks at her and she's

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Speaker 2: So like, all of these things are in play. So

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Speaker 2: this is what I said to him last night. I said,

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Speaker 2: play the league tournament this weekend. Right, So I said,

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Speaker 2: all right, if you don't practice tonight, you can't start

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Speaker 2: So then this morning, as I'm getting ready to take

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Speaker 2: and beamsy Do, and he's coughing. I mean, quite honestly, folks,

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Speaker 3: You've been off for six days.

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Speaker 2: This is over the top. Like we tested the temp.

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Speaker 2: nobody does. I have you had that conversation with him.

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Speaker 2: So he goes to school. And then I said, I

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Speaker 2: It makes me think the cough was real and he

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, like you can't keep them

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Speaker 3: You're teaching them bad behaviors and write things for later

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Speaker 3: on in life. Gotta you gotta go through.

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Speaker 2: You gotta trudge through in this time, the way that

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Speaker 2: the weather's been. I don't know anyone who hasn't been

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he's got and a half. Yeah, but if

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Speaker 2: Be coach's decision. The coach's decision on that. We I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I didn't tell you this, and then I'll get

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Speaker 2: to Tommy Reese. All right. If we were would have

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Speaker 3: That's untenable.

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Speaker 2: Eight am at clover Leaf. That's a long way from you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: of I mean you go to Columbus. Yeah, what's stopping you?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we have got to win all three. If

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Speaker 2: then Beamsy's team had already locked in their seed and

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Speaker 2: they play at six o'clock at clover Leaf Saturday. So

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Speaker 2: Like that's that was the reality of my situation, a

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 2: We ended up winning pretty with two seconds left. We

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Speaker 2: That put us into the ten o'clock game, and I've

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Speaker 2: never been That was my super Bowl. I told my

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Speaker 2: don't care at all. I'm fine as long as I'm

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Speaker 2: the morning to play a third grade basketball.

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Speaker 3: Are you playing clover Leaf or oh, it's.

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Speaker 2: Just one of the sites.

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Speaker 3: This has got to stop. Well, there has to be

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Speaker 3: someone else that can host this close.

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Speaker 2: They do a really good job. They've got four courts,

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Speaker 2: and it is close for some of the schools that

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Speaker 2: I don't know how close. That's relatively close to Madina.

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Speaker 2: They're in the league, Highlands in the league, wads within

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Speaker 2: the league, like it's all the suburban league teams, like

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Speaker 3: Here here's my other here's my other takeaway from this information.

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Speaker 3: The fact that youth basketball is over on January twenty

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Speaker 3: high school stuff starts playoffs, yeah, late February, mid to

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Speaker 3: late February, but come on, you can't go a few

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Speaker 2: Here, so it does. This is the league. So the

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Speaker 2: way that works is you play your leagues from you

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Speaker 2: play preseason tournaments in November, you play your league from

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Speaker 2: the beginning of December until the end of January. Then

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Speaker 2: that's your league championship, and then February is community tournaments.

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Speaker 2: So like, our league's done this week, but then next

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Speaker 2: week we'll play at Green The week after that we'll

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Speaker 2: play in a tournament in Jackson. Then we'll be off

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Speaker 2: for the holiday, and then we'll go to the one

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Speaker 2: we go to. I think Aurora at to end the year,

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Speaker 2: so you have still have three more weekends and then

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Speaker 2: aau goes in, right, that folds in in March.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, across an aau and away you go. That's

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Speaker 2: So anyway, Boots, I owe an apology. Legit sick.

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Speaker 3: It's a big That's a big moment here on this show.

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Speaker 2: Is what it is. Gotta own it, got got out.

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Speaker 3: What if you come home and he's just running around

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Speaker 3: like a mad man, that's a fact.

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Speaker 2: He will be doing that. He will be either he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be sucking down fluids, gatorades and such. He's definitely

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he will do all of those things that. Now,

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Speaker 2: if I get home and there's some sort of a

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Speaker 2: just had to get it for him to make him

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Speaker 2: feel better, then I'll know I've been had and then

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Speaker 2: I take the apology back. But right now I think

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Speaker 2: he's my hunches. He's telling the truth, gotcha. We'll see,

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Speaker 2: all right. Tommy Reese was officially introduced to the media

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Speaker 2: this morning at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: he'll join us live on the show here at one five.

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Speaker 2: Here is Kevin Stefanski making the formal announcement of Reese

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Speaker 2: as the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Okay, guys, excited to announce Tommy Reese as our offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Tommy's a guy that we met a few years back,

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Speaker 4: kept a relationship, watched him from Afar as he had

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Speaker 4: his success as a young coach, and then we were

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Speaker 4: able to bring him in here last year. And really

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Speaker 4: the spent last year spent with Tommy really solidified what

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Speaker 4: I thought about him. You know, we had a process

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Speaker 4: with some really impressive candidates for this job, some smart

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Speaker 4: people that we really enjoyed getting to know, but ultimately

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Speaker 4: felt that Tommy was the right.

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Speaker 2: Fit for this football team.

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Speaker 4: As far as play calling, which I know you guys

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Speaker 4: a gonna ask I'm gonna call plays and I reserve

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Speaker 4: the right to change my mind. Okay, So excited announced Tommy.

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Speaker 2: So obviously the headline there is Kevin taking back play calling. Good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Kevin's putting himself in the best

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Speaker 2: He was also asked a question that I will ask

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Speaker 2: What is the one trait you want your quarter back

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Speaker 5: You know, I think when your players are when the

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Speaker 2: I just say this on Milroe, I understand the common

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Speaker 3: Oh no, If and when Shottenhiram becomes the Cowboys coach,

433
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Speaker 3: who will be the DC don't rule out this guy

434
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Speaker 3: Rex Ryan is a picture of him I have not seen.

435
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: So that was the one I saw if and when if?

436
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: When I thought I saw one that said it was happening, Yeah,

437
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: that's twenty six mes ago. I thought I saw one

438
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: from earlier that they were circling the wagons on him,

439
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 2: But then I don't see it from uh, I don't

440
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: see it from schefter.

441
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 3: So Jane Slater who NFL network, and she's she's embedded

442
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: with the with the Cowboys. Cowboys met with Brian Schottenheimer

443
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: for more than five hours yesterday and what was their

444
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 3: second interview this week with him? When asked if this

445
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: was imminent or whether new was expected today, I was

446
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: told nothing as of yet, per source. The weight continues.

447
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 3: That was fifty three minutes ago.

448
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So it must have been that the

449
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: combination of that and then the Florio one that let

450
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: you believe that it was already done. Okay, all right,

451
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 2: very good. NFL honors are out The finalists for the

452
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: Major Position Awards are now known the MVP Final Five.

453
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Speaker 2: In this one, there's five of them.

454
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Speaker 3: I thought they were only three, but the ESPN article

455
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 3: has five because I saw the article.

456
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: The original article had three and it was Lamar Josh. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 2: they had Burrow and Golf to it. I don't know

458
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: what you would do that for it. It feels like

459
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Speaker 2: it's between Lamar and Josh.

460
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Speaker 3: Well, the Bengals malfeasans cost Burrow the MVP, you could art.

461
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I know we had our own issues, but

462
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: you think about the fact that they had a defensive

463
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 2: end who very likely win Defensive Player of the Year.

464
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: They've got a receiver who won a Triple Crown and

465
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: a quarter who led the NFL in passing and they

466
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Speaker 2: didn't make the postseason.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, that's that's ridiculous to me.

468
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, Lamar, Josh, Saquon, Burrow, and Golf your finalist

469
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: for the MVP Offensive Player of the Year Finalists Lamar Burrow, Saquan,

470
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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, and Derrick Henry.

471
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Speaker 3: That's a tough one there, but I feel like Saquon

472
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Speaker 3: gets it because of the two thousand yards.

473
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Speaker 2: Saquan or Jamar, Yeah, I mean Jamar won the triple crown,

474
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Speaker 2: so they'll give it to Saquon though, because of his

475
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: team's better so and I think two thousand yards he'd

476
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Speaker 2: be very worthy of winning Offensive Player of the Year

477
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year. Miles is back as a

478
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: finalist song with Trey Hendrickson, Pat Sartan, Zach Bron and TJ. Watt.

479
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 2: I don't know why TJ. Watt made it.

480
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 3: The Eagles linebacker. I don't know enough about. I wonder,

481
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: like sometimes you look at the awards handed out leading

482
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Speaker 3: up to this as maybe a telltale sign. I know,

483
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 3: the Pro Football Writers Awards I think came out yesterday

484
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 3: and Certan won Defensive Player of the Year.

485
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: Oh wow, over.

486
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Speaker 3: Any of the edge rushers. Okay, So I wonder if

487
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: there's something to that going forward here.

488
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, could be. I mean, wasn't Lamar the first team

489
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: All Pro quarterback? I believe he was. That It would

490
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Speaker 2: be something to win your third MVP and you've never played.

491
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Speaker 2: I mean, like, the guys who win three MVPs are

492
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions. Yeah, you usually made it. It's a

493
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Speaker 2: high level.

494
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you haven't even made it to a super Bowl.

495
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Speaker 2: No, No, and have no fault of his own. None,

496
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: but this no, certainly not. Yeah, it'd be weird for

497
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Speaker 2: Hendrickson too, because like the one thing with Cincinnati all

498
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: year was their defense was awful. That got turned around

499
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 2: late in the season as they made their run, but

500
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 2: it was bad for the majority of the year, so

501
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 2: much of the defensive coordinator got fired. Correct. So, speaking

502
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Speaker 2: of the Bengals, they've hired Al Golden to be their

503
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Speaker 2: new defensive coordinator. Golden was the Bangers Bengals linebacker coach

504
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: in twenty and twenty one, was the defensive coordinator this

505
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: past season at Notre Dame. So I get it. I

506
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: think you're gonna see. We saw this with Jeff Haffley,

507
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: who was a Buckeye assistant. He was the head coach

508
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: at Boston College and he just went to Green Bay

509
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: to be a decourt probably left. I'm good. I don't

510
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: want any part of this. I can't. There's no rules

511
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: to this sport at the moment, So I think you'll

512
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: see more and more guys do what Golden did here

513
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: and others and get out of the college game and

514
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: get to the NFL, at least until they get some

515
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: sort of a lasso around what college football is at

516
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: the moment. This is funny because Nathan and I have

517
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: spent so much time in the last month talking about

518
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Speaker 2: what is going on in Jacksonville. Why didn't they get

519
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: a coach? And the thing that we keep coming back

520
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: from was Trent Balke that nobody wanted to work with

521
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: Trent Balky. Well, apparently that message got to Shad Cohn

522
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: because Trent Balkey is no longer the general manager in Jacksonville.

523
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why they didn't do it. It's a great quot.

524
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Speaker 2: Why didn't they do it when they fired Peterson? I

525
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: have no idea did they Did it cost him a

526
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: chance at candidates? Yeah? I think for sure it must have.

527
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden though, you're now you're hiring

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Speaker 2: a general manager and a coach.

529
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: You gotta hire both what you haven't And I wonder

530
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: if the final straw was yesterday. You have an OC

531
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Speaker 3: in Tampa Bay that's never been an NFL head coach

532
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 3: the opportunity to interview, and he pulls himself out of

533
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: the running. True, like that has to be an alarm

534
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: bell somewhere when the guy pulls himself out of being

535
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Speaker 3: able to get his first head coaching job.

536
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

537
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Speaker 3: In the NFL.

538
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a good spot too.

539
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 3: We've talked about it. I mean, you got you got

540
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: the quarterback, You've got some players.

541
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: Receivers, goods backs. So if I have this right, correct

542
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. GM coach is still being looked

543
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: for in Jacksonville, yes, coach in Dallas, coach in New Orleans, yes,

544
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Speaker 2: and coach in Vegas.

545
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: Yes.

546
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Speaker 2: Is there any that we're missing? They Chicago's filled, the

547
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: Jets are filled, Patriots are filled.

548
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: Bears are filled, all of those.

549
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: I think that's so those four head coaching jobs are

550
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: still open, and one GM job still open in Jacksonville

551
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: because Vegas has the GM two GM.

552
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: I think the Jets are still well.

553
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: The Jets are still GM.

554
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jets still don't have a GM, and they

555
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 3: were the first ones to fire the GM.

556
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: They interviewed Spielman. I wonder if there's you know, and

557
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: he obviously would know Aaron. I wonder if Aaron Glenn

558
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: is gonna have to say on the GM. Yeah, you know,

559
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: you wouldn't take that job unless you knew who you

560
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: were working with. I don't think if you're Aaron Glenn,

561
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't you're not taking that job, and lets you

562
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: know who's.

563
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: I'm not answering to a guy that's not even here yet. No,

564
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: I'll answer to the owner. See, I never I never

565
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: understood that, like either hire the hire the two guys

566
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: at the same time, yeah, or hire the GM and

567
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: then go hire the coach.

568
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 2: I'm okay with hiring the coach first, as long as

569
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: the coach is the boss of the GM. That that's

570
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: okay to me. I mean, I get you know, Kevin

571
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: and ab they all answer to ownerships, but they both

572
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: came in Kevin first though, right, Kevin and then Aby.

573
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: I think that was the chronology of that. Yeah, So

574
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: I think you could just have to know what the

575
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: hierarchy is on all of it. So that'll be interesting

576
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: to see what happens there. College football, we did get

577
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: some numbers from the National Championship Game twenty two point

578
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: one million, most watched non NFL sporting event over the

579
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Speaker 2: past year, but twelve percent down from the Michigan win

580
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: over Washington in twenty twenty four. College football games end

581
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: up being nine of the ten most viewed this season.

582
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: Georgia's win over Texas and the SEC Championship was six

583
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: at sixteen point six. The Buckey's victory over Oregon remains

584
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: the most watched college football game by viewers in the

585
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Speaker 2: CFP era. That was thirty three point nine thirty four

586
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: million in twenty fifteen, so they've receided ten million viewers thereabouts.

587
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: There were some outliers that were in the twenty five

588
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: twenty six, but the big one was that first college

589
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: football playoff. Here's what I would say, and I said

590
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: this a lot this morning. You just can't play on

591
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Speaker 2: the Monday after the division round.

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00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 7: Correct.

593
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: Last week in the morning, I made the case to

594
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: like own Fridays, have that be your night, play your

595
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: semi finals, one of your semifinals on Friday, playing Friday Saturday.

596
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: Be the appetizer for the NFL. Don't try to be

597
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: the dessert. Think of it. When you go to like

598
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: a white tablecloth great restaurant, you almost always are gonna

599
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: get appetizer. If some sort either gonna get an appetizer

600
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: or a salad or a soup, you're gonna order something

601
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: before you order your stake. That's just the way that

602
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 2: you can do it. That's the way it's done. But

603
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: you don't always order a dessert and I think the

604
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: college football National Championship game being played on the Monday

605
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: after the divisional round, you are lost. You're lost promotionally,

606
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: you're lost. In the non college football world. Everyone's thinking, NFL,

607
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: casual sports fan, you're lost. There's fatigue, You've just watched

608
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: eight hours of football, Like how much football can you watch?

609
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: And so I think they just got to get out

610
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Speaker 2: of being the dessert for the NFL and instead be

611
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Speaker 2: the appetizer for the NFL, and then I think it

612
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: would be fine. It's so great in an era where

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Speaker 2: nothing rates outside of football anymore. It's still that most

614
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Speaker 2: popular sport in the country by a wide margin, behind

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Speaker 2: the NFL. But I do think there's opportunity to get

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Speaker 2: some of it back with just some common sense with

617
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: the playoff, move it back a little bit, and then

618
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Speaker 2: an ability just play it on Friday, and then I

619
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Speaker 2: think you'd get You would have got probably twenty eight

620
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Speaker 2: million on Friday, I really think. So. I just think

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Speaker 2: it was so much football by the time.

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Speaker 3: You got correct, and I mean, let's be honest, until

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, there wasn't The championship games haven't exactly

624
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Speaker 3: been the most riveting over the last few years.

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Speaker 2: Last year's was pretty good with Michigan and Washington. This

626
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 2: one ended up being good in the fourth, but it

627
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: was at one point thirty one to seven. It peaked

628
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Speaker 2: when it was seven to seven and then Ohio State

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Speaker 2: got those two touchdowns to make it twenty one seven

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Speaker 2: and a half and then I mean the lowest rated

631
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Speaker 2: one was the Georgia TCU, which was a billion to two.

632
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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's been some bad ones. So I just

633
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Speaker 2: think they have to have some common sense on the

634
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: approach to it, and I think they'll be fine, all right.

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Speaker 8: look at the safety rooms of the Cleveland Browns. Will

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00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 8: start at the free safety position where Wan Thornhill in

650
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 8: the second year of his three year deal. He'll be

651
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 8: entering the third year again unfortunately battled injuries for the

652
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 8: Cleveland Browns. Was limited to just eleven games, no interceptions,

653
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 8: three passes defense, he had forty nine tackles. And for Thornhill,

654
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 8: he had a calf injury in his first year with

655
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 8: the Browns and that really limited him to you guessed it,

656
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 8: eleven games the year before, only one pass defense, fifty

657
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 8: four tackles. Well, this year he came out and he

658
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 8: looked good. Week one comes out against the Dallas Cowboys,

659
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 8: nine tackles, a tackle for a loss, was flying all

660
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 8: over the field. Looked great, but he would be injured.

661
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 8: He would not return until Week seven against the Cincinnati Bengals,

662
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 8: missing those six games. Now he would play out the

663
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 8: rest of the season battling injuries on and off, and

664
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Speaker 8: unfortunately for the Browns, Thornhill was supposed to bring a

665
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 8: lot of stability and playmaking to that free safety position.

666
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 8: The injuries have just limited his effectiveness and his ability

667
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 8: to do that. You take a look at his career.

668
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 8: When he was with the Kansas City Chiefs. Four seasons there,

669
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Speaker 8: he averaged two picks a season. He had at least

670
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 8: one interception every season there, eight picks in total. He

671
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 8: would have twenty passes defense and four seeds there, so

672
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 8: an average of five a year. And he was a

673
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 8: guy that averaged about just about sixty tackles a season

674
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 8: as well. Now, in his time with the Cleveland Browns,

675
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 8: Thornhill no interceptions. It's the first years of his career

676
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 8: four straight with at least one. He had none here,

677
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 8: and he only produced an average of two passes defense

678
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 8: per season, so just one thorn Hill. The production has

679
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 8: not been there. He signed that three year, twenty one

680
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 8: million dollar contract. He's entering the last year of that contract.

681
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 8: The Browns will have some flexibility or options there. You

682
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 8: would love to see at work where Thornhill is the

683
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 8: guy that he was in Kansas City. His last year

684
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 8: in Kansasity twenty twenty two, three interceptions, nine passes defensed,

685
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 8: and a sack. He's seventy one tackles, a career high

686
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Speaker 8: four tackles for loss of career eye. He had a

687
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 8: career season, and unfortunately, because of the injuries, especially to

688
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 8: that calf, it just has not happened here with the

689
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 8: Cleveland brown So unfortunately for one thorn Hill, we have

690
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Speaker 8: not seen that level of play. One more year under contract,

691
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Speaker 8: perhaps twenty twenty five is that season. The Browns also

692
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 8: have another free safety that I like a great deal,

693
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 8: young Ronnie Hickman, the former Ohio State Buckeye who should

694
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 8: have had an interception earlier in the year he had

695
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 8: won against the Giants that was taken away due to

696
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 8: a penalty on a roughing the passer. But Ronnie Hickman

697
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 8: fourteen games this year, he started five of them, played

698
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 8: very solidly for you once again, forty five tackles, a

699
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 8: tackle for a lost fumble, recovery of pass defense now

700
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 8: we can never forget. In his rookie year he had

701
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 8: that pick six against the Jets on the night that

702
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 8: the Browns clinched the playoffs here in twenty twenty four.

703
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 8: That was magical. But I thought played well for the

704
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 8: Browns again this year. Entering his thirty year as an

705
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 8: undrafted free agent, and he certainly is somebody that I

706
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 8: think if you're looking at the Browns and you say,

707
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Speaker 8: could he be a starter for me going forward? I

708
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 8: do think he could be. You look at the Browns

709
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 8: defensive grades this year. Miles Garrett was number one this

710
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 8: is Pro Football Focus, Isaiah MacGuire was number two, jok

711
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 8: number three, Devin Bush number four, Jordan Hicks number five,

712
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 8: number six, Ronnie Hickman was the highest graded defensive back

713
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Speaker 8: on the Browns. Despite the fact that obviously which called

714
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 8: some into question. Obviously Denzel Ward he had such a

715
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 8: good year, but he was without question the highest graded

716
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 8: safety on the Cleveland Browns this season. So he's somebody

717
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 8: that you can look at there in that free safety room.

718
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 8: You've got him on a rookie deal where he can

719
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 8: maybe start for you, and he comes at a very

720
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 8: good price. Now the Browns will have one change for

721
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Speaker 8: sure in that safety room as gone is Rodney McCleod,

722
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 8: retiring after his thirteenth NFL season this year. Rodney McLeod,

723
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Speaker 8: who has been so good throughout his career, came back

724
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 8: for that last ride with the Browns. Played all seventeen

725
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 8: games this season. He had thirty nine tackles, two tackles

726
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 8: for a loss, He had a fumble recovery for a touchdown,

727
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 8: five pass defense.

728
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: He had a field.

729
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 8: Goal block return for a touchdown. There was a while

730
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Speaker 8: Rodney McLoud as a defensive player was leading this team

731
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Speaker 8: in touchdowns with two. I was in week I want

732
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 8: to say six after his touchdown against the Eagles. So

733
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Speaker 8: Rodney McLeod could still play. He's hanging him up. An

734
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 8: illustrious career. That son spent time with the Eagles, with

735
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 8: the Rams, with the Colts, and with the Browns. Rodney McLeod,

736
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Speaker 8: we certainly wish him well. I think he's gonna be

737
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 8: a force in the media. But what Rodney McLeod was

738
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 8: in a lot of our big nickel situations or big

739
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 8: dime situations, which would be three safeties. He could play

740
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 8: in the post as a free safety. He could come

741
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 8: down in the boxes a strong safey. So he had

742
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 8: that versatility. And so Rodney McLeod was a very versatile piece.

743
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 8: Knew Jim Schwartz's defense won a Super Bowl with him

744
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 8: in twenty seventeen, and so he's retiring, so he will

745
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 8: not be there in twenty twenty five. So right now,

746
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Speaker 8: in the free safe room. He got Thornhill, You've got Hickman.

747
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 8: Rodney McLeod will not be back in twenty twenty five.

748
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 8: Browns have some decisions to make it. Certainly that's a

749
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 8: room that they could try to add some talent, whether

750
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 8: it be free agency or in the draft. On the

751
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 8: strong safety side, I think you're in a little bit

752
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 8: of a better position in terms of continuity. You've got

753
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 8: Grant Delpit, and Grant Delpit, you know, in sign that

754
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 8: three year, thirty six million dollars extension the end of

755
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 8: the twenty three season, comes back his first year on

756
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 8: the deal. Guess what, He's the Browns leading tackle. He

757
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 8: has one hundred and eleven tackles this year, seven tackles

758
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 8: for a loss. He was a good blite bitzer. He

759
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 8: got his hands on the ball as a defender, had

760
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 8: to sack a fumble recovery, and played very well. Was

761
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 8: just highly regarded around the league for his performance, not

762
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 8: only in coverage but as a run defender. Really kind

763
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 8: of played in the box as an extra linebacker, and

764
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Speaker 8: I thought played.

765
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Speaker 2: Very very well.

766
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Speaker 8: He's a stud. He's got that right attitude, the right disposition.

767
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 8: He's a guy that you know, is a centerpiece of

768
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 8: what you're going to do on defense going forward. And

769
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Speaker 8: so you're good with Grant Delpit, and then the other

770
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 8: strong safety is the Anthony Bell. And now Delpit, being healthy,

771
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 8: didn't get to play much this year. Played in all

772
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 8: seventeen games, mostly on special teams. When you look at

773
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 8: his snapcounts this season, he played just ninety three snaps

774
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 8: on defense nine percent. A year ago he played two

775
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 8: hundred and twenty seven and the Anthony Bell a year

776
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 8: ago very productive. When he did play career high twenty

777
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 8: eight tackles, he had four passes defense. He had two interceptions,

778
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 8: including that game winner against the Bears. He had a

779
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 8: force fumble this year. Really was more of a special

780
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 8: team's guy. Nineteen tackles, tackle for a loss, didn't play

781
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 8: much at safety. But he's somebody that if you needed to,

782
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 8: certainly could start for you. He's shown you that. He

783
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 8: was the first undrafted free agent and the Kevin Stefanski

784
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 8: Andrew Berry regime back in twenty two, and he's played

785
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 8: well when called upon twenty two to twenty three, twenty four.

786
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Speaker 8: The Anthony Bell is a guy that when you need

787
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 8: to start, he can do it. I think he could

788
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 8: slide some into that Rodney McCloud role as that third

789
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 8: safety for you, and we'll see if he can do that.

790
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 8: He's a restricted free agent. The Browns have his rights,

791
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 8: and my guess is that he would be back with

792
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 8: the Cleveland Browns. They got a couple other safeties on

793
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 8: the roster, Christopher Edmonds, who finally was active in Week eighteen.

794
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 8: He was undrafted free agent this year out of Arizona State.

795
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 8: Did not see any offensive action or defensive action, I'm sorry,

796
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 8: but did participate on special teams in the season finale

797
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 8: against the Ravens. And he's a guy that they liked.

798
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 8: Good ball skills, guy who can play kind of that

799
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 8: center field free safety role, good size, good speed. He

800
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 8: actually in that game against Baltimore, he did play I

801
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 8: guess three defensive snaps and he played twenty one on

802
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 8: special teams appeared in two games for the Cleveland Browns

803
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 8: over the course.

804
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Speaker 2: Of the season.

805
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Speaker 8: So he's a guy that's in the mix next year,

806
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 8: trying to make his way on the roster, much like

807
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 8: Ronnie Hickman and the Anthony.

808
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: Bell did before.

809
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 8: Browns also have Trade Dean the third there in that

810
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 8: safety room. So there's gonna be change. Roddy McLeod will

811
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 8: be gone. There could be more change wan Thornhill in

812
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 8: the last year of that three year deal. You've got Hickman,

813
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 8: delpit Bell, who I expect back. This is a room

814
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Speaker 8: where could you be making a move at free safety

815
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Speaker 8: in the draft? Could you be making a move in

816
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 8: the safety room and free agency? I think the answer

817
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 8: to both of those questions is probably yes. So a

818
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 8: room that will look familiar, but it could look different.

819
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Speaker 8: Could have four of the five safeties back, No Roddy McLeod,

820
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 8: we know that, or could be three of the five

821
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 8: safeties back. We'll have to see how this all plays

822
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 8: out for the Browns this offseason. But that's our look

823
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Speaker 8: at the safety room.

824
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Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Great stuff out of doctor

825
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: Z on the preview with the safeties, and illuminary walked

826
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Speaker 2: right in said, nice to see it. Newly minted offensive

827
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: coordinator Tommy Reesons studio with us live here on Cleveland

828
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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. It's got a nice ring to it.

829
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Speaker 6: Yeah sounds all right, yeah yeah.

830
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Speaker 2: Is there a when you think back when you have

831
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Speaker 2: career achievement like this, do you allow yourself to think

832
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: back when you were younger, and when you thought this

833
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: would be a career path for me. Obviously, play quarterback

834
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame, you think you're gona play the league,

835
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: all those things for a long time. But was there

836
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Speaker 2: a point when you said, okay, this is my path

837
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Speaker 2: and then to get to this point at your age

838
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Speaker 2: is a remarkable thing. Yeah.

839
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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I don't know if I ever

840
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 5: thought I was going to play in the league. You know,

841
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 5: I kind of knew where I was going to tap out.

842
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 5: You know, you get the job and there's immediately so

843
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 5: much that you need to do that you want to do,

844
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 5: that you're eager to get rolling on. So it's very

845
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 5: rare to have a ton of opportunities for reflection, you know,

846
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 5: this one. I did have a moment after the interview,

847
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 5: you know, there was a little bit of time and

848
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Speaker 5: just you know, talking with my wife and just said, hey,

849
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Speaker 5: if this does work out, this is kind of what

850
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 5: we've always you know, strived for. And but after that,

851
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: pretty much no other time to reflect. You move ahead

852
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: and you get ready for the job, and you hit

853
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 5: the ground running as soon as you're in here.

854
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: You you had a bunch of options. What was it

855
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: about this one that that made you say this is

856
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Speaker 2: where I got to be.

857
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a few, you know. I would start with

858
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 5: the organization. I would start with coach Ttefanski. You know,

859
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 5: I came here a year ago with really a lot

860
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 5: of the belief and a lot of the reason being Kevin,

861
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 5: wanting to learn from him, wanting to work for him,

862
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 5: and then that belief has only grown being here. And

863
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 5: then I would say, like, there are certain places across

864
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 5: the NFL, across college football that where you know, whether

865
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 5: it's the city, where it's the organization, whether it's the

866
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 5: division you play in, where football is at its peak,

867
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 5: and where football is a huge priority. And for me,

868
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 5: I wanted to be in Cleveland. I wanted to stay

869
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 5: with the Browns. I grew up, you know, with my

870
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 5: dad being here and obviously following the team, but there's

871
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 5: something about winning in this city that I'm really driven

872
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 5: to do.

873
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: There's a parallel. I tell a lot of our guys

874
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: when they come in the show, and there are guys

875
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: from big programs like the one you played at, or

876
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: like Alabama where you coached, and I said, if you

877
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: don't have a point of reference on Cleveland, and I

878
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: mean this is the highest, the highest possible accounting of

879
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: the city and the fan base and all of it.

880
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: This is a big college type feel in the biggest

881
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: possible way. And I mean that as a compliment, because

882
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: this whole city, the heartbeat of it is Brown's football

883
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: all the time, and a Sunday at one o'clock is

884
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: the thing you do, much like it would be in

885
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: the afternoon on a Saturday in Tuscaloosa South Bend.

886
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a really good comparison. There's probably a lot

887
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 5: of similarities there, you know. I think it probably touches

888
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 5: the other sports teams in the city. You know, like

889
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 5: everything's really focused around sports. It's a great dive bar town.

890
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 5: So that's probably what stood out to me from the jump.

891
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 5: But I have a lot of you know, my wife's

892
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 5: got a lot of family here. I have a lot

893
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 5: of friends that are from here. One of my you know,

894
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 5: closest friends, Dan Fox, grew up here when Ignatius played

895
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: at Notre Dame. So like, I've known what Cleveland's about

896
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 5: for a long time, and there's a lot of things

897
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 5: there that you know, I'm yes, I think it has

898
00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: an extra importance.

899
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: What's what do you look for in a proper dive bar?

900
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: What are the characteristics?

901
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 6: Like above average food just that's it.

902
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: I like that, though above it not too good.

903
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 5: But locals regulars. I mean, if there's carpet, great, If

904
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: there's not, we'll be okay.

905
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: I look at a stool. I need a nice school,

906
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: nice back, something looks like it's been there about twenty

907
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 2: five years minimum.

908
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 5: At least minimum, at least something with character, right, Like

909
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 5: you're looking for character?

910
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, proper bar.

911
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: I like that. You've had quite the coaching apprenticeship the

912
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: last few years, starting at obviously at the Alma Mater

913
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: and the folks you coached with there. Then you go

914
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: to Alabama and coach for arguably the greatest college coach

915
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: of all time under Kevin Here and you mentioned that

916
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: was a big reason why you wanted to work here

917
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: was with Kevin. But then you had Mike a lot

918
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: this year with you and the tight Ends. What have

919
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: you been able to pick from all of those brilliant

920
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: people that can now become who you are? Yeah?

921
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 5: I mean you obviously take things, whether you're you're conscious

922
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 5: of it or not. You take things along the way

923
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 5: from each of your stops and then you know, it's

924
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 5: really how it fits into your personal spin and your

925
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 5: personal character and characteristics and your personality. You know, I

926
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 5: would say, like going all the way back, I mean

927
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 5: I remember, like Mike McCoy was our head coach in

928
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 5: San Diego, and I remember the attention to detail that

929
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 5: he had. I was in charge of drawing all the

930
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 5: passes and if you missed a parentheses, if you had

931
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 5: any line that was out of point, like he was gonna,

932
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 5: you know, make sure that it was corrected. And you know,

933
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 5: while I was there being around you know, Nick Sirianni

934
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 5: and Shane Stike, and we're both really young coaches, and

935
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 5: you walk in there thinking like, hey, you know football myself.

936
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 5: And then I got around those guys and I was

937
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 5: blown away with the knowledge and it was like, Okay,

938
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 5: well this is a whole other level that you're striving for,

939
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 5: so like the strive for excellence there.

940
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: You know.

941
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 5: I talked about Brian Kelly and my press conference. You know,

942
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 5: I was with him nine years as a player and

943
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 5: a coach, and just the way he was able to delegate,

944
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 5: the way he was able to run a program, you know,

945
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 5: how he wanted it done, the attention to detail he

946
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 5: has from the top down was really critical in the

947
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 5: success there. And then you get around Nick Sabman and

948
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 5: you think you know what hard work looks like, and

949
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 5: then you're you're completely exposed to what it truly is.

950
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 5: And there's really no secret on what's made him the

951
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 5: greatest college coach of all time. I mean his work ethic,

952
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 5: his ability to have his finger on everything that's going

953
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: on in the program there was truly remarkable.

954
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 6: And another guy I wanted.

955
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 5: Just like my first coaching job, I was a gat

956
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: Northwestern for bats Fitzgerald and like you talk about building

957
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 5: and I know whatever's out there, but you talk about

958
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 5: a culture where the players loved playing for a guy

959
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 5: like you won't see anything that rivals what fits out

960
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 5: at Northwestern.

961
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: That's incredible.

962
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: A bunch of leaders, man, Yeah, a lot of really good,

963
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 5: Like I said, very fortunate. You know, I look at

964
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 5: all those is whether I was conscious of what I

965
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 5: was grabbing from them or not, Like part of that

966
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 5: rubs off on you, you know. And even Marcus, like

967
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 5: I was there for his transition for year one, you know,

968
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 5: to see where he was in year one, how he

969
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 5: wanted to build then to be able to like follow

970
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 5: the vision play out. It's really cool, Like he was

971
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 5: very specific on what his vision for that program was,

972
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 5: and you saw it play out throughout this season, and

973
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 5: it was pretty cool to be able to be a

974
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 5: part of that then and now see where he's really

975
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 5: gone into exactly what he saw it being.

976
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 2: You gravitate to really strong, You gravitate to and want

977
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: to be around really strong, great leaders who are incredibly organized.

978
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of parallels and all of

979
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: the guys you just mentioned there. When you got the

980
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: job here in the tight end room, what I said

981
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: to folks was what you did with save in at Alabama,

982
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 2: with that offense with Jalen was as impressive a job

983
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: as a kid who at the beginning of that season.

984
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: I know he deserves a lot of credit for it,

985
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: and I heard you mentioned that a ton of it

986
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: by all accounts, an incredible kid, but an offense that

987
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: was kind of broken at the beginning of that season

988
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: to one that got all the way to the College

989
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 2: Football Playoff, won the SEC. He was a borderline Heisman

990
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: candidate by the end of it. What did you learn

991
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: about yourself and developing the quarterback position that year at Alabama.

992
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

993
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 5: I mean, let's be honest, our back was up against

994
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 5: the wall, right, and we just kept fighting, We kept swinging.

995
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 5: We had a great staff there at Alabama, so a

996
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 5: lot of credit to those guys, and we just said, hey, here,

997
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: we got to figure out what we can do well.

998
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 5: We got to figure out how to maximize Jalen because

999
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: he does have talent, and let's just focus in on

1000
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 5: those things. And you know, week by week we were

1001
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: able to add to that a little bit. By the

1002
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 5: time we played George and SEC Championship, we felt good

1003
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 5: about the full catalog of our offense. But you know,

1004
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 5: really it was just finding a way to win games,

1005
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 5: finding a way to maximize what we had. And again,

1006
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 5: give a lot of credits to Jalen, give a lot

1007
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 5: of credit to that staff in terms of us just

1008
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 5: kind of bunkering down and saying, hey, our backs up

1009
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 5: against the wall.

1010
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 6: All we can do is fight out of it. And

1011
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 6: that's what we did.

1012
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 5: And I would say that's about as proud of a

1013
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 5: coaching moment as I've been a part of, for that

1014
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 5: group of coaches and players to just you know, persevere

1015
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 5: through an early, you know, really a.

1016
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 6: Tough start to the season really was.

1017
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it I think the thing that I pick

1018
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: up on there, and I think it's important. And you

1019
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: think about where we are off A lot of people

1020
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 2: are going to say, what are the Cleveland Browns offensively?

1021
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: And we heard today Kevin is going to go back

1022
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: to Colin plays and all of that, and we we

1023
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: certainly had an identity in terms of what the Browns

1024
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: were offensively. But I think the words valuable, right, you

1025
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: have to you are, Yeah, you are the Cleveland Browns offense,

1026
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: but you have to build it to Is that fair

1027
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: that that's when you put together on offense. It can't

1028
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: just be this is who we are, it's this is

1029
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: who we are with our with the players that we have.

1030
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I use the word malleable in the pressure. Actually,

1031
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 5: so they were stay in school for me. Yeah, that's

1032
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 5: good that I'm glad it hit. Yeah, but I think, yeah,

1033
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: you have to be player centric and you have to

1034
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 5: be able to maximize what your players do, and you

1035
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 5: have to be flexible enough to have enough in your

1036
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: offensive system that you can really focus on those things

1037
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 5: and to sit here and say we're finding guys that

1038
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 5: fit exactly this. There's some of that, like, you have

1039
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 5: roles that you want to fill out, but you also

1040
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 5: as a system need to say, these are the guys

1041
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 5: we've got to focus on, and how can we maximize

1042
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 5: what they can do. Let's not talk about what they

1043
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 5: can't Let's figure out what they can do and then

1044
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 5: go and move forward. And that, you know, that's a

1045
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 5: huge credit to coach Saban as well. I mean that

1046
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 5: was he would always I don't want to hear about

1047
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 5: what they cannot do. Let's figure out what they can

1048
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: and find a way to maximize that.

1049
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: With you as the offensive coordinator and Kevin as the

1050
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: head coach, what characteristics are paramount for you offensively?

1051
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think you know what it looks

1052
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 5: like or you know, you want a group that can

1053
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 5: play and I know coaches use this term, but you

1054
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 5: want a group that can play sound.

1055
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 7: Right.

1056
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 5: You want to line up and you want to look

1057
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 5: at the offense and say, Okay, what they're doing schematically

1058
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 5: is putting their players in good positions, right, And when

1059
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 5: you talk about being sound at the end of the day,

1060
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: it's that let's not run bad plays into bad looks.

1061
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 6: Let's not.

1062
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 5: Let's not try to do things that are outside of

1063
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: our expectations. Let's do things that are sound and within that,

1064
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 5: let's create space and opportunities to be explosive, both in

1065
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 5: the run game and the pass game. You know, I

1066
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 5: think you have to be able to hang your hat

1067
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 5: on something schematically in the past and in the run

1068
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 5: and so building that identity, building that foundation is really

1069
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 5: important as you get through these early parts of the

1070
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 5: offseason and into OTAs and all those parts that really

1071
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 5: add up to building the team to where you want

1072
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: it to be.

1073
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: You will obviously have a heavy hand in what comes

1074
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: next at the quarterback position. Here, what are non negotiables

1075
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: for you at that position? What do those that player

1076
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: have to have?

1077
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you, non negotiables is a very cut

1078
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 5: and dry word, but I do think I said it earlier,

1079
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 5: like your ability to process and make decisions is really

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00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 5: the key to this game. And that comes in a

1081
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 5: lot of different shapes and sizes. It comes in a

1082
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 5: lot of different skill sets, but at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, the guys that play at the highest level

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00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 5: can process and make decisions in a split second, because

1085
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 5: that's really what's required. Now, again, you're gonna watch the

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00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 5: playoffs this this weekend and all those quarterbacks have a

1087
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 5: different skill set. So when you look at what it

1088
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 5: looks like physically great, there's a lot of different ways

1089
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 5: to make that work. But what they can all do

1090
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 5: is process. They can all make good decisions, and they

1091
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 5: got to be able to solve problems on the field.

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Speaker 2: Get you out of here on this one. What is

1093
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: something you've been here a year but obviously much bigger role? Now,

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00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 2: what is something this fan base maybe doesn't know about

1095
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 2: you that they should or that you would want them

1096
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: to know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Winning in the city of Cleveland is extremely important to

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Speaker 5: me after being here for one year, you know, and

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Speaker 5: living this every day for the last year, being a

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Speaker 5: part of this organization, understanding what it's like to go.

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Speaker 6: Into the stadium every Sunday, you feel it everywhere you go.

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Speaker 5: Like winning for this organization, winning for the season is

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00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 5: extremely important, and you're going to get a tireless effort

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00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 5: from our offensive staff.

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Speaker 2: Well said Buddy. Great, great to have you, Great to

1107
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: be the new offensive coordinator. The great Tommy Reese in

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Speaker 2: studio with us here. Second hour of the program coming

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Speaker 2: up next. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on a

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Great Heaven Tommy here in studio with us.

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Speaker 2: Impressive young dude coveted both collegiately and in the NFL,

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00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: and pretty candid answer in terms of why here and

1121
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: what it would mean. He certainly, you know they always

1122
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: do that thing around here, like he gets us obviously,

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00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: that's it in droves. And when he starts talking about

1124
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: dive bars, then that makes me happy right away because

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00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's, you know, how exciting. Where was that

1126
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 2: place we were at? We were at the Browns Backers,

1127
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: Brown's Barker's Club where you they thought you were actually

1128
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: liked Fittsburgh. You're not on.

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Speaker 3: How about now you're on South Euclid, South Euclid, Yes,

1130
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's a proper bar.

1131
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: Tommy'd love that joint with the mini with with the basement.

1132
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, come on, yeah, that place is solid. Yeah,

1133
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: that's it. I think anytime. Proper bar for me is

1134
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: I like when the bar has a little bit of

1135
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: padding that I can lean on, and I like a

1136
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 2: nice seatback in the stool, and I like a vinyl

1137
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 2: that's been sad in a lot, like a comfy bar

1138
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: stool with a little bit with in a vinyl setting

1139
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: with a little bit of bounce to it. And then

1140
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: if there's a padded thing that I can lean on,

1141
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: probably a vinyl now we're in. And also any taxidermy,

1142
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: a big little stuff on the wall, anything stuffed on

1143
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: the wall. You put a pheasant up there, fine, now

1144
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: that could be the Montana in me, but like, yeah,

1145
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: that was a that was a lock. Like you had

1146
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: to have taxidermy somewhere on the wall in order to.

1147
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 3: He said, And I was like I was transported to

1148
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: two or three that I know off the top of

1149
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 3: my head that I'm like, yeah, yeah, Like at the

1150
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 3: end of the night, like you step and like liquid

1151
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 3: comes out and you're under underneath your feet, You're like, yeah,

1152
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 3: I don't even want to know what's underneath carpet.

1153
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: No very good, but look, and I hope you there

1154
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: was stuff to pick up on that in terms of

1155
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: what they're looking for at quarterback and him being part

1156
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: of that decision making with obviously Kevin and a B

1157
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 2: at the top of those decision making, but the traits

1158
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: that they're looking for at quarterback, and the number one

1159
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: thing he said he I think he said this in

1160
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: his press conference as well, was is decision making right.

1161
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: That's it. They process, see it, rip it, go, trust it,

1162
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: see it, rip it, go, rinse and repeat. And I

1163
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: also think the other thing that's important because there's gonna

1164
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: be so many conversations. We'll talk with Kevin about this

1165
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: at the combine when he joins us there. But so

1166
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: much of when you think about putting together an offense,

1167
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: there are things that are fundamental and then there are

1168
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: adjustments to the fundamental. I was unaware I use the

1169
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: word malleable. Did he use it in his press conference?

1170
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: He said he did. I'd take him in his word.

1171
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: I didn't. I was busy this morning, so I didn't

1172
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: hear it. I didn't hear his press conference live. But

1173
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: it's funny that he used it.

1174
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: I don't recall that. I mean the media got in

1175
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 3: forty questions this morning. It was a lot. It was

1176
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: a lot to process. Yeah, and he navigated everything. But

1177
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: he was a quarterback at Notre Dame. Your quarterback at

1178
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: Notre Dame.

1179
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: You can handle anything, Yeah, like just in life, like

1180
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: the amount of pressure that comes with that job. You

1181
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: can handle your business.

1182
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1183
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: Hey, No, And he's had he's had some great people

1184
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 3: to learn from. I think that, you know, he can

1185
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 3: lend his expertise to some of the play calling stuff

1186
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 3: that he brings to the table and just game planning.

1187
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 3: I mean he he comes in and he I would say,

1188
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: is unassuming a good word?

1189
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think if you saw it. For example,

1190
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: I think he could go to a dive bar and

1191
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: have anonymity. Yes, and that's something when you're the quarterback

1192
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame. But I think he can do that. Yeah.

1193
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: But he knows his stuff, and you know, oh, just

1194
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 3: from talking to him, he's very quick. He understands what

1195
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: the task is. His dad was here in an NFL canpacity.

1196
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: He was a ball boy here in this building back

1197
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: in the day. Yeah, you know, I mean that's the

1198
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: guy knows the guy knows football. Yes, he's grown up

1199
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: around it. He knows how much it means to this area.

1200
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: And I know sometimes that can be a crutch for

1201
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: a lot of first time coaches or new coaches to

1202
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: this area. But he does know about the history. He

1203
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 3: can tell you the history. As much as you think

1204
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 3: you know it, he knows it just as well. And

1205
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: I can appreciate that. And him having been here this

1206
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: year and seeing how the AFC North works and what's

1207
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 3: going to go into making this team the best that

1208
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 3: they possibly can. You know, it was interesting. He's like,

1209
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 3: we need a quarterback to play perfect. He said this

1210
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 3: this morning. Yeah, quarterbacks got to be the best they

1211
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: can be. They got to be infinite. They can't make mistakes,

1212
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: but you have to do a job of babying them

1213
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: a little bit. You almost have. You have to baby

1214
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: them and build up their confidence.

1215
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: That's why I am he's the perfect guy for where

1216
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: I think we are at quarterback, which is two young guys. Yeah,

1217
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: he's perfect for that. And I don't know if I

1218
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: said this in the interview, if I've said it off air,

1219
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: I think maybe I did. But his handling with Jalen

1220
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: that year, Yeah, he gave the great answer about the

1221
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: adversity and how proud he was to have that year

1222
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: what he did with Jalen. I mean, I had this up.

1223
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: This is Jalen Milroe. You and I were talking during

1224
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: the break about some of his numbers. We were so like,

1225
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: just to give you an idea. Jalen Milroe his one

1226
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: year with Tommy, which was his red shirt sophomore year,

1227
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe was sixty six percent completions, twenty eight thirty

1228
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: four ten yards in attempt, twenty three touchdowns, six picks.

1229
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: He also ran for five thirty one and twelve touchdowns. Okay,

1230
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: this this year with Kaylen Debor and he's no slouch,

1231
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: but he also had Ryan Williams, who's Jeremi Smith's the

1232
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: best freshman receiver. Ryan Williams is right below like he

1233
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: is a stud. So they had him. Milroe went from

1234
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: sixty six percent to sixty four percent completions. He threw

1235
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: for about the same amount of yards despite having really

1236
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: forty more attempts. His average yards were down eight to

1237
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: eight point nine from ten. This is the big one though.

1238
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: He was sixteen touchdowns eleven picks last year at Alabama,

1239
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: and so when again, this goes back and this is it.

1240
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: He was a tremendous college player, awesome college player, ran

1241
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 2: for twenty touchdowns in seven or twenty six yards. But

1242
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: in terms of like what they're looking for here, sixteen touchdowns,

1243
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: eleven picks. That ain't it in today's college Ye, that

1244
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: ain't it. That ain't it. The fit here would much

1245
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: more be someone like Will Howard than it would be

1246
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: someone like in terms of a mid round guy at

1247
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: the top of the draft. This what it feels like

1248
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: they're looking for is shudure, seventy four percent, completion, accurate, decisive,

1249
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: all the decisive, all those things based on what we

1250
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: heard today. So that's not scores, that's just this is

1251
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: the type of player that would fit what they're looking

1252
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: for more Schudur than certainly cam Ward or Milroe or

1253
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: any of those, or Quinn yours for that matter. And

1254
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: then in the mid round, that's Dylan Gabriel, that's Will Howard,

1255
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: that's those type of guys in that world, Jackson Dart,

1256
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: those type of guys could be kind of fits in

1257
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: that world. So I thought it was great. I mean,

1258
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: we're thrilled to have him. He's easily likable, if you

1259
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: see him at a dive bar, buy him beer. If

1260
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: you can recognize him, we'll go and take a look

1261
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: at the NFC Championship game. Our good buddy, John Kime

1262
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: is going to join us ESPN, NFL Nation reporter on

1263
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: the Commanders. He joins us. Coming up next, Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: John Guime joining us. John, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: taking the time with us, first time since ninety one.

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01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about wow?

1276
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 7: Yep, Yeah, there's hope Cleveland. It happened. Although I will

1277
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 7: say this, like you go from the number two pick,

1278
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 7: it's c J. Stroud, then it's Jane Daniels, and then

1279
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Speaker 7: it's this year.

1280
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Speaker 2: You know, the thing about that's different, you know, the

1281
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: one thing I said about that though, John, And I'm

1282
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: glad it's interesting you brought this up. We can go

1283
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: here real quick. Last year at the Combine and I

1284
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: can't remember if we talked to you the Combine or not.

1285
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: Obviously we love having you on every time we can,

1286
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 2: but I remember there being when we would have like

1287
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: analysts on they would say Caleb Williams big gap and

1288
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: then Dan or May, like that was kind of the

1289
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: consensus on it last year when we talked to folks.

1290
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: So the only thing and there was a big gap

1291
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: between Bryce and CJ the year before.

1292
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Speaker 7: I would say this though, like the people that I

1293
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 7: talked to that that gap wasn't that big, and you know,

1294
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 7: you know other coaches were like they didn't feel like

1295
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 7: it was. You know, when I would ask him Daniels

1296
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 7: or May, it was like it was clear it was

1297
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 7: Jade all the way. And there were some people who

1298
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 7: definitely felt like he was the best quarterback in the draft.

1299
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 7: And there were people that you know I was told

1300
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 7: was Chicago who felt they should have taken him. So

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 7: I think it was a lot it was not as

1302
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 7: clear cut. Yeah, internally in the NFL world that as

1303
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 7: it was. But having said that, there's a difference between

1304
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 7: this that quarterback class and this one.

1305
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately for us, fortunately for.

1306
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 7: You that's right, But but it is. But I will say,

1307
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 7: but I'm never just like you have like but to

1308
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 7: get to go from where they were, to get to

1309
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 7: hear it wasn't just the quarterback. It was also like

1310
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 7: you know, it was Dan Quinn coming in, you know,

1311
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 7: new new energy, and then I think that was a

1312
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 7: big thing. I think fit in free agency was a

1313
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 7: big thing. They got a lot of really you know,

1314
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 7: good fits for their system, for their for the culture

1315
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 7: they want to build. I think it was also here's

1316
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 7: a novel concept, owner GM and coach being on the

1317
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 7: same page like that was a that's a major thing

1318
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 7: as well, and I think it helps nobody saw this coming.

1319
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 7: Anybody who did would be the most optimistic fan or delusional.

1320
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 7: But it's but you add that, then you add a

1321
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 7: rookie quarterback who was tremendous, and that's how you get here.

1322
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: When did you know he was different?

1323
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 7: Daniels in the spring and you know, because I've covered

1324
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 7: you know so, I but you didn't know how good

1325
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 7: you would be? But you knew he was different. And

1326
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 7: the reason why I say that it wasn't you know,

1327
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 7: you watch him in practice and he looked really good.

1328
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 7: I've seen really good rookies before, but it was really

1329
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 7: what you heard leading into the draft and then also

1330
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 7: after the draft when you talk to people close to him,

1331
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 7: and you when you hear the people in the building

1332
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 7: talking about him about all the extra work he does.

1333
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 7: I mean, he was showing up in the spring at

1334
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 7: like five thirty am for extra work and you know,

1335
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 7: go and he does that during the season. He'll get,

1336
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 7: he'll come in aro out five thirty, He'll get, he'll

1337
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 7: go watch film, he goes in the practice bubble, does

1338
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 7: walkthroughs with a couple of coaches. You know, it's that

1339
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 7: kind of stuff. It's the embracing of the process. Is

1340
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 7: why you started saying, like, this kid is different. And

1341
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 7: you know I covered RG three here. He is light

1342
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 7: years ahead of where he was as a rookie, and

1343
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 7: Robert had a really good year, but it was but

1344
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 7: he did not embrace that kind of process that Daniels does,

1345
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 7: and so you know, I hadn't seen anybody do it

1346
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 7: like that. So that's what that's when you knew he

1347
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 7: had a chance because like, you knew the talent and

1348
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 7: if you like, this is what he is, but this

1349
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 7: is a talent, you know, this is what he's going

1350
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 7: to continue to do, then he's going to be really

1351
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 7: good at some point. And before the season, you know,

1352
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 7: Zak Gertz told me, he's like, I'm not telling you

1353
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 7: he's going to be good down the road. I'm telling

1354
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 7: you he's good right now. He hasn't started yet.

1355
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: Man, that's incredible. How how critical And it was one

1356
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: of those hires that I didn't give much, we didn't

1357
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: give much thought to in the moment, but perhaps should have.

1358
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 2: And that is Cliff Kingsbury and the way that worked,

1359
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: because that is something that when that hire was made,

1360
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: it was It wasn't anything where I was like, oh that, okay,

1361
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: there you go, but it's been that How critical was

1362
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: that higher in terms of someone seeing the game apparently

1363
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: very similar to the way Jayden does.

1364
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 7: Very And I think so I would I would compare

1365
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 7: this like, so let's say the let's say the Browns

1366
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 7: want to draft a quarterback. It's it's really to me,

1367
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 7: it's about the infrastructure you build around him. And I

1368
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 7: think the Bears did a disservice to Caleb Williams, probably

1369
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 7: to Justin Field as well, by the infrastructure they didn't

1370
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 7: build around him. The Bears went with a you know,

1371
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 7: rookie basically a rookie play caller as well, with a

1372
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 7: defensive mind head coach like you know, even though and

1373
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 7: they didn't have an offensive line. It's like it was

1374
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 7: just a poorly put together plan here. I think Kingsbury,

1375
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 7: he's he had worked with Patrick Mahomes Baker, you know Manziel,

1376
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 7: but in college he was a good Manziel, right, and

1377
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 7: then you know Caleb, he works with him and you're

1378
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 7: just Kyler Murray. So he had experience with working with

1379
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 7: young quarterbacks and you know who could run as well.

1380
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 7: So I think that helped. Then it was like getting

1381
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 7: guys like Marcus Mariota in the building as a backup

1382
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 7: who you know was who was has been a really

1383
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 7: good uh mentor for him. So I think like things

1384
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 7: like that. And the quarterback coach is David Ball who's

1385
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 7: played in the NFL, but you know he's he's now

1386
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 7: an assistant quarterbacks coach here. I think all that stuff

1387
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 7: has helped him and helped Daniels but Kingsbury understood, understood

1388
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 7: to put an offense together for him what he needed

1389
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 7: to do. I think the other thing is like he

1390
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 7: trusts Daniels completely. If you remember in the Browns game,

1391
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 7: there was a play before halftime where he connects with

1392
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 7: Deanny Brown for like a forty one yard score. The

1393
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 7: reason why they called that play because Jay and Daniels

1394
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 7: had run out of bounds in the previous play. As

1395
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 7: he's running past Kingsbury, he told him to call that play.

1396
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 7: Kingsbury didn't flinch and calls the play and then Boom

1397
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 7: touched down to Deanny Brown. But if there's a level

1398
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 7: of trust that he has in him, because like Daniels

1399
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 7: is sending constantly sending him plays that he sees on YouTube,

1400
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 7: he sees somewhere else, you know, because like this is

1401
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 7: all he cares about. So I think, and then I

1402
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 7: would say from Kingsbury's end, Kingsbury, Jayden gets here early.

1403
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 7: Kingsbury gets here like three thirty or four at the latest,

1404
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 7: at four o'clock. So like you have two guys like

1405
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 7: that who have a similar mindset and approach. I think

1406
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 7: you see what you're seeing on the field.

1407
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's all worked it's all working big yeah to say,

1408
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: and John, we've had you on before and whether we're

1409
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 2: going around the league or talking about previewing our matchups

1410
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: with the Washington team, whatever it is. I'm old enough

1411
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: to remember when they played at RFK and you could

1412
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: not get tickets and it was an absolute bedrock foundation

1413
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 2: organization in this sport. And then the Dan Snider ownership

1414
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: takes place and they are relegated, like they're just like

1415
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: almost kicked off the island for two decades or better?

1416
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 2: What has this been like with this ownership? I saw

1417
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: Harris and Magic Johnson. It's not about us, get it's

1418
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: not about how what does this mean for this fan base?

1419
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: I asked, thinking I probably know the answer, but my god,

1420
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: it's football purgatory for two and a half decades and purgatory.

1421
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 7: But also i'm it's a purgatory, but it's also what

1422
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 7: they endured during that, especially the last five years where

1423
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 7: it was so it's investigations by the NFL by Congress.

1424
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 7: You have an owner that you not just that you

1425
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 7: just despise because he's just a bad owner. It's because

1426
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 7: he's he was a bad guy, and so like you

1427
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 7: have that and then they changed the name, and and

1428
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 7: you know, and then they're losing and and and there

1429
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 7: there's zero excitement with it. Like I would have people

1430
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 7: tell me, like, man, I like reading your work, I

1431
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 7: like listen to you, but I'm out, and like, I

1432
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 7: don't blame you because they didn't give you a reason

1433
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 7: to stick around. And everything turned into an embarrassment, you know,

1434
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 7: water pipes breaking at the stadium. You know, this year,

1435
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 7: there was one time this year in the game a

1436
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 7: cable broke and fell onto a group of fans. Did

1437
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 7: you hear about it? Nobody heard about it because on

1438
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 7: the next play they had to pick six. And it's like,

1439
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,839
Speaker 7: that's how different it was, right, so like, and nobody

1440
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 7: heard about it. In the past, that would have been

1441
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 7: a you know, a bunch of tweets and a bunch

1442
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 7: of pictures and all that. So but I just think

1443
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 7: it's it's I just think it's the thing. The only

1444
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 7: thing I can liken it to is when Josh Harris

1445
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 7: brought the team in July twenty twenty three, the fan

1446
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 7: they started to waken again, and it was almost like

1447
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 7: coming out of a Homer And it reminded me of

1448
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 7: the scene and Wizard of Oz when they dumped the

1449
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 7: water on the width of Witch of the West, and

1450
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, you know what I mean, Like,

1451
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 7: that's that's the effect it had. And I you know,

1452
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, I grew up in a crazy

1453
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 7: football town, obviously, growing up in Lakewood, and I know

1454
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 7: what that's like. And you know it's that fan base

1455
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 7: in Cleveland has not deserted that team. There was a

1456
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 7: lot of apathy here. There was an erosion of the

1457
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 7: fan base here because of all the other stuff. And

1458
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 7: it's just been it's a remarkable turnaround, you know. I mean,

1459
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 7: it's just I will say this, from here on out,

1460
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 7: the expectations get higher.

1461
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it ain't that fun. That's the privilege of expectations.

1462
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 2: Right now, all of a sudden you got a franchise quarterback,

1463
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: and now, all of a sudden, you find yourselves in

1464
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game, John, Why is this team so disrespected?

1465
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 2: From a line standpoint? It was I think nine and

1466
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 2: a half or nine last week in Detroit at six

1467
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: in Philly. I watched these two teams play a month ago.

1468
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: I know how hot this Washington team is. Six seems

1469
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: like too much to me. What am I missing.

1470
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 7: So I think you look at the rosters and I

1471
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 7: think people still look a lot at like, well, who's

1472
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 7: on that team, And when you kind of look at

1473
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 7: it on paper, it's not quite as impressive as what

1474
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 7: you see when you watch the games. And you know,

1475
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 7: defensively they have issues. They have a hard time stop

1476
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 7: in the run, and the Egles obviously run the ball

1477
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 7: very well, so not necessarily the greatest matchup for them

1478
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 7: in that regard. But I think it's more about like

1479
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 7: do you believe in this roster? You know, do you

1480
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 7: how much do you think Jayden Daniels can elevate a roster? Well,

1481
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 7: the answer is quite a bit. And you know, I

1482
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 7: think one thing the defense did well last week against

1483
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 7: Detroit was just the turnovers they forced, and they forced them,

1484
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 7: you know, and I think they didn't stop the lines necessarily,

1485
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 7: but they didn't care. They want to force turnovers and

1486
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 7: they did that. And then you have a quarterback who

1487
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 7: they could not stop, so you know, kind of watch Yeah,

1488
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just it's that's a lot of what

1489
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,480
Speaker 7: is and you know, do you believe can one guy?

1490
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 7: You know, I think part of the outside world it's

1491
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 7: like can one guy really beat you. And when I

1492
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 7: was in Detroit last week, I think there was a

1493
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 7: lot of confidence that, well, it's a coronation for the Lions.

1494
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 7: And then when you're going like I go on Philly

1495
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 7: radio and it's like, you know, how dare Washington think

1496
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 7: they can win this game? It's just it's like at

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 7: this point, I'm like, I'm done. I'm done putting a

1498
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 7: feeling on what this group you can do. And I

1499
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 7: would say too, like you asked about Dange when you

1500
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 7: thought it special. I remember in the spring and summer.

1501
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 7: I've been around enough teams to know like when there's

1502
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 7: a different bond among the team and a different energy

1503
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 7: in the building, and they had it. And I even

1504
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 7: told an assistant coach after they beat the Lions, I'm like, yeah,

1505
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 7: And in the spring and summer, like you could feel

1506
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 7: how different it was. You could feel how close this

1507
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 7: team was. And I remember thinking at the time, like, oh,

1508
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 7: it's a shame they don't have more good players, because

1509
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 7: this is like these are the kind of teams that

1510
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 7: do special things. But you just didn't think but they're

1511
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 7: not at to that point yet with the roster. Well

1512
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 7: it turns out maybe they were so I think like

1513
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 7: there's there's some of that, like the tough mindedness, the resolve,

1514
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 7: the belief, all the things that And it sounds cliche

1515
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 7: like can't measure heart all that stuff, but that's the

1516
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 7: stuff they also have, Like there is a strong belief.

1517
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 7: And then you know, the NFL, like it's not like

1518
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 7: it's not like there's this big gap like say between

1519
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 7: Ohio State and Notre Dame, you know, like you know

1520
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 7: what I mean, I'm just kidding there, but like in

1521
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 7: terms of college balls, there's a big gap in talent,

1522
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,879
Speaker 7: there's not a u gap in the NFL. And sometimes

1523
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 7: like that resolve, that confidence, that belief plus plus plus

1524
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 7: the quarterback can really take you over the top. But

1525
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 7: it's a it's gonna be a very tough one because

1526
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 7: that run game is just scary. But you know, but yeah,

1527
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 7: they they absolutely have a chance.

1528
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 2: And and you know, yeah, John, if they win, if

1529
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: they win Sunday, what does the game flow have to

1530
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 2: be stylistically, what does it need.

1531
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 7: To look like they can't give up explosive runs to Barkley.

1532
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 7: And that's that's the big thing, because like in the

1533
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 7: second game, they scored thirty six and did it despite

1534
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 7: turning it over five times, which is incredible, But you

1535
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 7: can't live like that against this defense. That's too good

1536
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 7: a defense to expect that you can just go move

1537
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 7: it like that again, So you can't. In the first game,

1538
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 7: they kept it close into the middle of the first

1539
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 7: fourth quarter, they went for it on a fourth down,

1540
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 7: didn't get it, take the field goal, didn't They're down

1541
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 7: twelve to ten, and then Barkley rips off two long

1542
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 7: touchdown runs and that's really kind of put the game away.

1543
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 7: You can't like, they did a good job against him,

1544
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 7: but cannot let him have that, And it's that's to me,

1545
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 7: he's the big key. And then offensively, you you know,

1546
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 7: I think it's about possessing the ball because the Fangio's

1547
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 7: defenses don't give up the explosives. But if you can

1548
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 7: do that, and the question there is they're going to

1549
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 7: have to block Jalen Carter, their right guard is out

1550
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 7: with the torn a cl Who's going to block him?

1551
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 7: And can and can well can he's a game wrecker?

1552
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 7: Can they control him enough to get off what to

1553
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 7: do what they need to do offensively? And you know

1554
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 7: that the Eagles did a really good job against their

1555
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 7: offense the first game, Washington moved it well the second game,

1556
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 7: so we'll see.

1557
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: Is it ripping seven ninth ninety one? Is that ripping?

1558
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 7: Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1559
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: So that was against Buffalo, right.

1560
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 7: Yep, yeah yeah, and wow, like that was and that

1561
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 7: like but you know the funny like that team people saw,

1562
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 7: people could see it coming right there. There was there

1563
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 7: was I mean that that team was. The franchise was

1564
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 7: great during that time. I mean three three super Bowls

1565
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 7: in ten years and they were I think ten and

1566
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 7: six year be four lost in the playoffs, but that

1567
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 7: was a really good team. And then you know, going

1568
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 7: into the year, I think there were high expectations and

1569
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:52,919
Speaker 7: then they probably exceeded them by how well they played. Obviously,

1570
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 7: this year coming off of four four and thirteen, no

1571
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 7: winning season since twenty sixteen, no playoff wins since five,

1572
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 7: I've no eleven wins seasons since ninety one, Like, it

1573
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 7: was wholly unexpected. And you know, I mean, again as

1574
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 7: an Ohio State fan, you that last month was incredible.

1575
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 7: I just feel like this is the This is similar

1576
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 7: for Washington fans, where like the last the last month

1577
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 7: of the year, they've won five games either on the

1578
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 7: last play from scrimmage or the last play of the game,

1579
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 7: and then the one game they didn't need to do

1580
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 7: that was in Detroit. So I it's just been this

1581
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 7: magical ride. And you know, I think for this franchise,

1582
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 7: the fan base, it's not just the ride this year.

1583
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 7: I think it's like they know that this is really

1584
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 7: just starting. Because Daniels is a rookie and like you

1585
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 7: hear the phrase playing with house money, I think like

1586
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 7: they know that they're not at the point yet where

1587
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 7: they're going to be in a couple of years that

1588
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 7: I think that's where for the people in the building,

1589
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 7: that's where the excitement is.

1590
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: You think they win it Sunday, John, What do you think.

1591
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 7: I'm not betting against I'll say that because I thought

1592
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 7: they would. I thought Detroit would beat them. But in

1593
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 7: a high scoring game, you know, I mean, logically, the

1594
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 7: Eagles are the better team on paper, that's obvious. But

1595
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 7: I think the Hurts injury is key, and if he's

1596
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 7: not healthy, I think they win. And I just like

1597
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 7: Jaydon Daniels. It's like it's like when Lebron took the

1598
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 7: Cavs to the titles in seven, that team had no

1599
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 7: business being there when you strip away one guy. But

1600
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 7: that one guy was pretty special, and I think that's

1601
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 7: what you got going here.

1602
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 2: He's a great John Kyme check out his podcast. It's

1603
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Speaker 2: a must listen to John Kyme report. Ross Tucker is

1604
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 2: the guest on this most recent edition of course, covers

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Speaker 2: ESPN and NFL Nation. John, Thank you so much, Go Bucks,

1606
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 2: absolutely and good talking to you here here.

1607
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 7: Thanks Ben, thanks for having me on as always.

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01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,479
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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I'm real well quite the show. Good job today?

1628
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and out of you, sir?

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Speaker 7: Nice?

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1631
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Speaker 3: Daily Today's mail Bag, and we start now. Trey Carrey asked,

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01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 3: where can I find the Snoop Dogg interview?

1634
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I don't know if that would

1635
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 2: be archived. It would be archived on the podcast. Yes,

1636
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 2: so that would have been from Baker's rookie year, second

1637
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 2: half of eighteen. It was nice out, so I would

1638
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: suggest it was probably October, Yes, something like that.

1639
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 3: Snoop was actually playing a gig, I think a playhouse square, okay,

1640
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 3: and then he was going on to like Pittsburgh or

1641
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 3: he was coming from yeah, and stopped in to give

1642
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 3: Jarvis Landry something thing.

1643
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, he liked Jarvis, big Jarvis guy. And then

1644
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 2: he had. I remember him talking about being a big

1645
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 2: fan of Bake. Yeah, it was eighteen or nineteen. It

1646
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 2: was Bake's rookie year. It was I know for yeah,

1647
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: it was the first year because that first year he

1648
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 2: came on and then Stone Cold came on like a

1649
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 2: month later, like they were both because stone Cold. Actually

1650
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 2: nineteen was stone Cold ye because that was baked second year,

1651
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: because Baked did it with stone Cold.

1652
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they were driving the crazy cars in the

1653
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: parking lot. Yeah, across the street. Yeah, I know.

1654
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 2: It would have been eighteen with Snoop.

1655
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, mister Dog would have been eighteen. And I

1656
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 3: guarantee it's podcasted. Yeah, it's I don't know where the

1657
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: video would be for that because I don't know if

1658
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 3: the YouTube channel was created at that point.

1659
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 2: I've never seen video of it. So if it was video,

1660
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: remember in those days that the production crew would have

1661
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 2: to bring the crew if they wanted to record something,

1662
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 2: they would have to set up and real quick. And

1663
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 2: it was Sarah at the time was like, Hey, I

1664
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: think Snoop Dogg gonna come on, and we're like, wait

1665
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: what I called him? Mister Dog?

1666
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 3: Yes, the whole interview, Yeah, mister dog, what are you

1667
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 3: gonna say?

1668
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: I mean, was insane. It was the coolest interaction of

1669
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 2: my life. Yes, I've been around a lot of it

1670
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: was the nicest guy. I just remember, and Z would

1671
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: attest to this. His hands were so soft, like absurdly soft.

1672
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 2: I just remember that, and he was great. So it's

1673
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: a humor awesome. It was really, really fun, really cool.

1674
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 3: I enjoy this interaction every Thursday from preston the fact

1675
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 3: and the question of that fact. Cleopatra was closer in

1676
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: time to the invention of the iPhone than she was

1677
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 3: to the construction of the pyramids. What is that really true?

1678
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 2: He put it on Twitter. I mean, ex whatever is

1679
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:54,919
Speaker 2: that doesn't seem possible.

1680
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 3: I don't have an answer for this. I when he's

1681
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 3: saying it's a fact, and he's usually been spot on

1682
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 3: about that night.

1683
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: So she's gone August twelve, thirty one BC a long

1684
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: long time ago. It's funny. The next thing that pops

1685
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 2: up after you type in clear patches when with the

1686
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: pyramids built, Oh my god, the Egyptian Pyramids were built

1687
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: between twenty seven hundred and fifteen hundred BCE, so maybe

1688
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 2: there's a chance no, yeah, yeah, twenty seven hundred. She's

1689
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: gone around thirty one. We're twenty twenty four.

1690
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, God, that's correct.

1691
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 2: That's a long dynasty, brother, that's correct. To go from

1692
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 2: pyramids all the way through all that's a long run.

1693
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 3: His question of the day, you get to craft a

1694
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 3: perfect breakfast? What does it look like?

1695
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: I love waves rancheros. I love that. I love a

1696
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: good breakfast sandwich. I love a breakfast sandwich, like a

1697
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 2: croissant sandwich, breakfast sandwich with bacon, egg and cheese, that

1698
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: type of thing that.

1699
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: I'm Maybe my favorite breakfast sandwich is Cockies.

1700
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

1701
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,799
Speaker 3: They're in North Homestead and they have a location downtown

1702
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 3: in the flats, the North Homestead eighty. You know, she

1703
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 3: got me onto it. Yeah. I love their breakfast sandwich.

1704
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 3: It's perfect, and I have like this cocky sauce ridiculous. Yeah,

1705
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 3: it's stupid good.

1706
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 2: I only eat breakfast on the weekends, but when I do,

1707
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 2: that's usually what I pull. See.

1708
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:36,440
Speaker 3: I love breakfast.

1709
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah that's I don't know.

1710
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 3: I love a good I love a good biscuits and

1711
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 3: gravy addicted with a couple over easy eggs on top

1712
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 3: that I can just mix it all together.

1713
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: I mean, waffle House is perfect. If we're going to

1714
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:52,799
Speaker 2: go there, I mean, that's perfect.

1715
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: Jordan's bowing down.

1716
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: Come on, man, smothered, covered, capped, the whole bit. Throw

1717
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: some eggs on it. Who loses? No one that's wins.

1718
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 2: No one wins. My kids couldn't believe it when I

1719
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 2: took him there. We took them there, in that Indiana.

1720
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 2: I finally got to eat with them. We went to

1721
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 2: Indiana the summer and we finally went to waffle House.

1722
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 2: Both of them. They couldn't even wrap their heads around

1723
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: how great it was.

1724
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 3: Amazing, so good. It's even better at two o'clock.

1725
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 6: It's good.

1726
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 2: Always just wins exactly.

1727
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 3: Love a dog today. Would you want the ability to

1728
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 3: fly if you have, if you had to have physical wings? No, no, no.

1729
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 2: I'm not walking around with wings. Man, it's not doing that.

1730
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 3: No, be cool to fly, But like, yeah, I don't.

1731
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 3: I don't need that the rest of the life.

1732
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 2: Can you imagine, like me coaching youth basketball with wings

1733
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: coming out of my back.

1734
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think that it's gonna work.

1735
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 3: I don't think people are taking you seriously.

1736
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: No, I don't. Well, I guess I could just flap

1737
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 2: at them. They take me seriously pretty quick. Yeah, but

1738
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 2: you hate birds, I do, I do. I'm intrigued by

1739
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: them though.

1740
01:23:52,160 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 3: By the way, my wife's stepdaughter Okay, she got her

1741
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 3: license or is getting her license on being a falcon ear.

1742
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't drop that in the middle of the segment.

1743
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll talk about that tomorrow now.

1744
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 2: But listen, I got I've been to there just last year.

1745
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: We are a joint where one of these beach joints,

1746
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 2: tropical joints. We're in order to keep the birds away,

1747
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: they bring a falcon around. Yeah, the guy walking around

1748
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: with a falcon while you're having your eggs Benedict, No thanks, yeah, no, thanks,

1749
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: Ali and Nick shout out. I hope you all will.

1750
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 3: Uh Bobby time, Bobby. Do you think you'd get along

1751
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: with a clone of yourself?

1752
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: I would think, I mean, I'm cloned. Why, I feel

1753
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 2: like we'd see things a lot the same.

1754
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 3: That'd be great.

1755
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I'm downe that'd be fine.

1756
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 3: I lose that battle at home. Yeah, did you really

1757
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 3: waste time if you enjoyed yourself while doing it?

1758
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: No, one of my favorite hobbies is wasting. Like in

1759
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 2: the old days when I had time to waste. I

1760
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: had time, yeah, and loved it. Loved it. Nothing like

1761
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: before Kid's wife all of that. Like there would be

1762
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: time where I would like on a Saturday, like I'll

1763
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: play a whole Dynasty season on college football. I'll go

1764
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: through the entire EPL season on FIFA. Let's do it, baby,

1765
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: my god, lock in, let's have some fun. No. I

1766
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: used to love doing that. Yes, I did crazy things

1767
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: on video games. I remember I did one year on

1768
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: one of the NBA live games. I played every game

1769
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 2: the Lakers played all eighty two. Did it? I did

1770
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: the Dodgers all one sixty two.

1771
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 3: I couldn't do that.

1772
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 2: I did it. Yeah, I did it. Yeah, used to

1773
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: have time. Use no time.

1774
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 3: No, Now there's no time. When the young kids in

1775
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 3: our department come over here and they all talk gaming,

1776
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 3: like Jordan and Gabe and like Tequila Fila comes in

1777
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 3: and some of the other guys, I'm like, like, don't

1778
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 3: you don't have a video I go, I do. I

1779
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 3: have a PS two from back in the day. I

1780
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 3: have an old school Nintendo.

1781
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1782
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 3: Once you start with kids, the time is not really available.

1783
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: No.

1784
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 3: And then I had girls and they were like, eh,

1785
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 3: I'll play Tetris's so that I'm not buying a video

1786
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 3: game system for Tetris.

1787
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: Super Mario is pretty great with all kids.

1788
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 3: Well, that wins for everybody. Mario Carrio card is a

1789
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 3: big winner. Let's see if you how many geese would

1790
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 3: it take to defeat a lion in combat, Bobby Today's

1791
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 3: random question. I can.

1792
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 2: I just don't know how, Bobby, that the geese would

1793
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: inflict pain on the lion. They don't really as much

1794
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 2: as I fear them, there's really nothing to fear. I

1795
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: don't know if they pecked enough, if they could even

1796
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: I suppose eventually, I mean I might take like five

1797
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 2: hundred of them. I would think, I would think just

1798
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: relentlessly trying to peck. But like he's gonna smack the

1799
01:26:59,320 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 2: heck out.

1800
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 3: Of a lot of them. Yeah, he's going to eliminate

1801
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,560
Speaker 3: I know that quite a few of them before he

1802
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 3: goes down.

1803
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't think geese have it. I don't know that

1804
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 2: there's a sharp enough beak on the geese. And the

1805
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,799
Speaker 2: web feet is a non starter. No claws, no talons.

1806
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 3: We were talking about breakfast sandwiches. This is regular sandwich.

1807
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 3: Why is sandwich meat usually round? Even though the bread

1808
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 3: is usually square. Great question for a fantastic, fantastic question.

1809
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 2: I feel the same way about how hot dogs usually

1810
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: come in a bock in a pack of eight, and

1811
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 2: buns come in a pack of six or ten. I

1812
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 2: assume it's all just conspiracy to make you buy more

1813
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: of both until you I don't know. That drives me nuts, Yes,

1814
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 2: I when I do the lunch meat, I always get

1815
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 2: it shaved. I like the more, the more surface area

1816
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 2: the possible.

1817
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 3: Like a slicer, and then my buddy has a slice.

1818
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 2: They're fun. And then you get that all sliced up, shaved,

1819
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 2: and then I just stack it like on a pile

1820
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 2: to avoid what you're discussing with the round thing. I

1821
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: like that, Amen, bo amen, slice it up then, baby?

1822
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: You know that, keV Yeah, oh yeah, that's all my

1823
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 2: haami is all the time, gotta be sliced shaved it.

1824
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 3: You win the lottery, but you find out you're gonna

1825
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 3: die tomorrow? So do you take the lump sung? So

1826
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 3: you take the lump sum? How do you distribute the money?

1827
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 2: How do I get I'm dying the next day? Yeah?

1828
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 2: I got him. I'm gonna do whatever I can to

1829
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: You have the time of your life for twelve hours,

1830
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna give it to the kids, right

1831
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 2: and say, enjoy yourself.

1832
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 3: Boys, remember me, well, Boots, get your act. Ye, you're

1833
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 3: getting none of it. Your mom's gonna have it.

1834
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 2: But she's gonna be the gatekeeper, so he's gonna end

1835
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: up with all of it.

1836
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 3: If you had to listen to one song for the

1837
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 3: rest of the day.

1838
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: What would it be?

1839
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 3: Dave Matthews ants marching It's funny.

1840
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 2: That was the one I was gonna say too. Yeah, yeah, anytime,

1841
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 2: Like when I got my car there at the time,

1842
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 2: it was like novel concept that you could just say

1843
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 2: a song and so that's the one I said, was

1844
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 2: that one? And then they played it, Yeah, that's mine

1845
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: and then and live It's awesome.

1846
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, so great, so great.

1847
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 2: I think come here this summer. They usually go to

1848
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 2: blossom like every year every other year.

1849
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't heard anything this year yet.

1850
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you if you ever get a chance, if

1851
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 2: you ever see him with Tim Reynolds, which is what

1852
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: I saw a couple of years ago, because I've seen

1853
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 2: him a bunch. But like with Tim Reynolds, they just

1854
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 2: play the hits. I think a lot of them. Yep,

1855
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 2: so it's it was great. We had seen him and

1856
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 2: Tim acoustically, yeah, which was crazy. Yeah, yeah, very good.

1857
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 2: All right, so much more to come. Listen to Cleveland

1858
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1862
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: All Right. So yesterday we had Jared Lugan bil great,

1863
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 2: great loyal listener, great dude, good, good human h it

1864
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 2: tweeted out, tweeted us with something on j okay and

1865
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't and he was felt bad. And we ended

1866
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 2: up getting Sean Crawford of ball fromern Irish teammate. That

1867
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 2: wasn't a big deal, but it was one of those

1868
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 2: things where we were like, oh, just mistaken moment in time. Well, Jared,

1869
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 2: you've totally redeemed yourself. He found the Snoop interview on YouTube.

1870
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: I just tweeted it out if you'd like to watch it.

1871
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: It's surreal to watch, but sure enough it is the video.

1872
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 2: It is from us six years ago. Six years ago

1873
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 2: is when this.

1874
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 3: Is from so would that have been nineteen?

1875
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 2: I think it was eighteen. I don't see a date

1876
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 2: on all right, I'll post on the Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1877
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 2: it's great. It's the old desk.

1878
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally setting up a mic as we're going because

1879
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:45,919
Speaker 3: we had no idea again.

1880
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 2: Almo, no, that tiny little camera that's there. Yeah, oh

1881
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 2: my gosh. Well anyway, so there. It is a great

1882
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 2: job out of Jared on that. That's very very good,

1883
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: well done. The next level is coming up next. Thank

1884
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 2: Tommy Reese for stopping by, John Kyme as well, Gibbe,

1885
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: great senior as always, pleasure. We'll do it again tomorrow.

1886
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,000
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