WEBVTT - 6. Rude Awakening 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:13.399 Gamsay Media Large. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:18.400 Rory. 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:20.599 We have arrived at episode six, that's right. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.200 What happened last week, well, last week we learned that 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.400 David is now fully aware that there's a hit man 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.600 who wants to kill him, and he has learned that 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.760 that hit man is the very person who has been 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.560 bringing him minimal amounts of cash that he's been asking for. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.640 And he learned about this hit man through a subcontracted 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.960 hit man who merely wanted to own his football jersey, 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.879 and that's why he found all of this out, and 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.000 that's why Kelly was informed of it. It's honestly, it's 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.879 it's sort of like the Domino, the first Domino tipping 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.120 and all of it going. But we also learned last 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.560 week that David Gann is alive by two things, One 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.600 because that football jersey he was wearing and Robert the 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:05.000 subcontracted assassin wanting it. And two the fact that the FBI, 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.759 doing their job correctly decided to stop a hit man 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.560 from getting onto a plane and decided to drop the 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.560 hammer on the entire crew at the moment that was 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.880 going to happen. So that's why they began still alive, 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.399 and that's why we're able to follow him through the 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:20.760 story of episode six. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.160 Folks, you literally couldn't make this up. That's why it's 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.160 a true story. Crimeliss Hillbilly Heist, Episode six. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.680 It's sometime before dawn on March second, nineteen ninety eight, 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.880 at the FBI Field office in Charlotte, North Carolina. John 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.600 Widra and more than a dozen other agents prepare to 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.680 raid the velvet elvis in Pat's Blue Ribbon Field mansion 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:55.920 of Steve and Michelle Chambers and bring them into custody. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.080 When we go in, we don't fight fair. If there's 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.480 two people in there, there's twenty agents. If there's one, 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:02.000 there's ten. 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.600 The agents strap on bulletproof vests and check their weapons. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.400 The agents are prepared for a fight. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.679 We knew Steve carried a gun everywhere. Keep in mind 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.720 North Carolina is one of those states where it's open carry. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.160 John Widra lives for moments like this. It's why he 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.720 left the cozy comfort of an accounting job or the 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.560 door bust an ass kicking world of the FBI. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:29.040 There's lots of fun. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:30.799 You get up at four in the morning, you stage 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.000 for an hour at five, you wait for go time 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.880 at six, Like why do we have to get up? 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:37.400 You're tired, I'm tired. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:42.160 The bad guy's tired, right, you're not necessarily thinking clearly. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.520 Towards the end of my career, I was like, we're 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:50.000 going to do this at ten am. They used to 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.639 call it wide research time because I was like, I'm 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.280 not getting up at that time. I was like, we'll 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.880 hit it at ten. You know, as soon as we're done, 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.200 we'll have lunch, we'll go write it up and call 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:00.119 it a day. 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:02.639 But justice must be served. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.040 Just like what you would see in television, there's just 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.480 a stream of black SUVs headed towards one house. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:15.840 An FBI raid inside the exclusive gates of Cramerton. The 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.920 neighbors will be scandalized. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.720 Sweet Jesus, oh my gosh. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.400 While Wydra and his team go to face off with 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.240 Stephen Michelle, other agents are on their way to the 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.600 homes of Eric Payne in, Kelly Campbell, and still others 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.400 are headed to a Hampton end where Mike McKinney is 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:41.120 sleeping off a six pack. As for David and Mexico. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.000 You know those guys wanted to kill me. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.640 Right, everyone knew but you. But we'll get to David soon. 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:48.000 Enough. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.280 If everything goes well for the FBI today, they'll have 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.320 all the suspects rounded up and thrown into the holding 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.680 pen at the county courthouse by lunch, a holding pen 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.040 where the highst crew will get to have a nice 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.560 roundtable conversation about where they went wrong and who's going 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:26.160 to snitch on who first. From SmartLess media, campsite media, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.320 and big money players. In partnership with iHeart Podcasts, I'm 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.800 Johnny Knoxville and you're listening to Crime List Hillbilly Heist. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:52.479 This is our sixth episode, Rude Awakening. The line of 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.880 black SUVs is joined by cars from the local police 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.919 department as the convoy cruises through the quiet streets of Cramerton. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.560 The convoy pulls onto the Chamber Street at six am 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.000 and the cars part just out of sight from the 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:12.600 front door. It's well before sunrise. The neighborhood is dead. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:19.000 Calm agents sneak into position in the chambers yard, keeping 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:23.280 away from the windows. John Wydra and the other FBI 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:28.200 agents hide near the front door. The plan is to 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.400 have the local cops set the trap. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.200 And the roofs to get in the house. Because we 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.479 knew they were armed. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.520 They know just how to get Steve out of the 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.760 house by threatening the crown jewel of his criminal empire, 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:46.240 his Strip Mall furniture store. There's been a break in 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.719 as your furniture store. The police lie. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.800 Steve opens the door and we yank him out and 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.000 throw him on the ground. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.320 As the agents cuff Steve and cover him with their pistols, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.320 Wydra and others make the way into the house. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:03.200 And we got her. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.920 Keep in mind, we're looking for Michelle and she's just 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:10.200 as dangerous. Make no mistake, but there are two kids 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.839 in the house. So now you've got ten agents, all 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.799 with guns. We know that Michelle and Steve have guns, 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.320 and we got two little kids in the house. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.560 The agents have studied the layout of the house, so. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.720 We go through the door and there's an immediate staircase, 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.120 like a kind of a spiral staircase up the side 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.800 of a wall like you would see in a movie 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:38.359 like of a mansion. And the kids were upstairs in 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.720 a bedroom up there, and Michelle was in the master 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.960 bedroom downstairs past the staircase and to the right. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.880 They also know there's a dog somewhere, a Bassett Hound 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:52.000 named Dallas. But so far he hasn't been an issue, 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.640 probably because the agents aren't squirrels. Wydra moves through the 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.479 house to the master bedroom and burst through the door. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.000 She's getting out of bed and she's naked. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.600 Not completely naked. She's wearing her forty three thousand dollars 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:14.560 diamond ring. You could see that thing from space. Michelle 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.720 reaches for the sheet, but the agents shout at her 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:17.600 to keep her hands up. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.400 When you're doing an arrest, you're not thinking about anything 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:25.240 other than something moving and what's in their hands. That's it. 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.800 That's all you're focused on when you're going through the door. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.160 If she reaches for clothing, there could be a gun there. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.640 We want her away from everything, like, let me see 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.920 your hands. There's clearly nothing that she's hiding, and we 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.600 pull her like out and wait for a female agent 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.040 to come in to get her dressed. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.800 Actually, there was something she was hiding. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.160 As soon as I lift up the pillow, there's a 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:54.520 fully loaded nine millimeters semi automatic under her pillow. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.560 And other things she was not hiding. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:00.800 I bet Michelle was mortified. No, she didn't act it, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:02.080 she didn't. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:02.280 Care at all. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:09.160 A female agent helps Michelle get dressed, keeping a close 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.520 eye on her. The sun still isn't up and they're 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.560 almost done at Cosa Chambers, but the kids are still 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:16.040 in the house. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.760 Told Michelle, call your parents and come pick up the kids. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.000 You're not going to be home tonight. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.920 It's only later that the agents realize a key piece 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:29.440 of evidence is missing. Sometime between Michelle being completely naked, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.280 her getting dressed in full view of the female agent, 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.920 and her going to pack the bag for her kids, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.480 the forty three thousand dollars ring disappeared. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.600 Michelle had to hide the ring and she was naked. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:43.320 So where did she hide it? 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:53.400 Well? I can think of two places. The FBI had 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.480 barged into the neighborhood without a single heads up to 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.640 our two Kathys, that is, Mayor Kathy with the sea 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.520 and her best friend Kathy with a K. Kathy with 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.280 a K broke the news and. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.800 I call Kathy, who was the mayor and my best 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:13.280 friend that early and I said, Katy, there are FBI 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:17.240 agents right outside my window. I said, wouldn't it be 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:21.440 weird if it was the heis? And She's like, I 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.040 don't know, but I'll let you know. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.160 I said, I'll call you right back, and I dialed 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:27.360 the chief of police. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.760 The chief of police for Cramerton is Kathy with the 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.360 CEA's future husband, David. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.600 Then I said, Chief Young, there is FBI and he said, yes, ma'am, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.880 I know. And I said, don't you think I should 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:45.119 have known? And he said, no, ma'am, you're just the mayor. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:46.760 Ouch. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.920 But believe it or not, that pickup line worked. They 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.319 eventually got married and are still living happily ever after. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.760 Despite this shot to her ego, Kathy with the Sea 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.360 had the hot and was ready to spill it. She 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.400 now knew why the FBI. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.880 Was there, and she called me back and it was 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.760 the heist and we were freaking out. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.079 But delivering the goods to Kathy with a k could 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.840 only be so much of a bomb. Mayor Kathy realized 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.120 she wasn't exactly a political power broker. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.040 It's very much just a small town. Everybody has your 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.800 number and they call you because their next door neighbor 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.440 isn't scooping their dogs poop out of the yard. 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.760 If that's the worst problem in your town, your community 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.600 is doing a oka. But now Mayor Kathy has legit 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.920 problems on her hands, so she patiently awaited word of 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.000 her official duties. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.120 I was so excited when the FBI finally reached out 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:46.840 to me because I felt like, is the mayor, I 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.439 should be doing something. I felt like there was something, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.880 but I didn't know what it was. So the call 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.760 let me know that I was needed. So I had 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.400 on my red blazer with the shoulder pads and my 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.120 high heel shoes and I was going to go to 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:02.880 be a mayor. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.320 She expectantly marched past all of the black SUVs and 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:07.880 ride up the Chambers driveway. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:13.160 And as I arrived, the agent, the lead agent, came 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.520 out and introduced himself and said, you know, thank you 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:16.640 so much for coming out. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.400 To help us here. It is the moment that will 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:20.680 make her political career. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:25.040 The family has a facet hound and the FBI doesn't 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.560 handle pets, and there's no one to come and get it, 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.240 so could you take the dog? So he's okay. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.480 Kathy with the Sea dutifully accepts Dallas the dog, but 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.000 she can't get him to walk down the driveway, so 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.679 in her red blazer and high heels, she gallantly scoops 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.439 up the pooch and carries him away. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:45.600 I was pregnant at the time. On top of that, 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:46.880 so it was definitely a look. 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.120 She takes the dog back to town Hall to her 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.800 office that just prudently got new carpet. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.760 And I put him down on the carpet and I 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.479 sat behind my desk and he started walking in circles 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:00.600 and peeing. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.000 Meanwhile, the FBI set up money county machines inside the 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.520 Chamber's house in full view of the front window. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.920 All the kids could see what was happening. They let 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.360 Kathy's boys come and sit on the bank of the 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:21.439 property and that went on all day long. They were 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:26.080 literally just dumping big bundles of money just flying through 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.640 this machine, and you just don't realize how much actual 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.719 physical money that is. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.840 By this point, the national media had caught window. The 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:39.840 arrests Kathy with a case, sets the scene, and after that. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:48.640 All hell breats outside the the news crews, the big 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:52.480 booms with the cameras up high, parked all in front 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:57.480 of my house, and the twenty twenty news crew was there. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.120 It was just wild, how wild. 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.880 I fed them sandwiches and I had made a homemade 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.000 banana pudding, and you know, they're like, oh my god, 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.280 you know, we wish all of our cases were like this, 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.360 you know, because I had them in my kitchen, sitting 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:22.480 at my big Island. Yeah, they were all really nice. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.920 Even though Kathy with the Sea was forgiving Dallas for 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.480 his pee, it was still turning out to be a 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:33.360 rough day for bad boys all over North Carolina. Across 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.680 town still early in the morning, the FBI knocked on 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.840 the door of Big Eric's mobile home. Big Eric aka 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.280 Eric Payne was there the night of the heist. He 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.360 was among Steve's crew that lost the keys to the 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.120 Lumas van in the parking lot. He later went on 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.280 to become one of the highest's biggest spenders, only behind 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:56.280 Stephen Michelle. He purchased a new truck, a new Harley, 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.120 and bought boob jobs for his wife and his sister. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.760 Here's on Widdraw on how it all shook out. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.520 He woke up, you know, and answered the door in 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:09.319 his boxers and his chunk was kind of hanging out 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:14.240 his boxers. The agents she said to him, She's like, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.040 you're under rest and put that away. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:22.160 Maybe we should have called him Little Eric. So Little Eric, 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.720 Steve and Michelle are all cuffed and in the back 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.600 of separate SUVs on their way to the holding pen 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.040 at the courthouse. Nearly all the key players are now 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:35.600 in custody, but down in Mexico, David Gant is nowhere 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:46.960 in sight. Okay, David wasn't in sight because unbeknounced to 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.000 the crew in North Carolina. The end of his life 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.160 on the Lamb came to a screeching halt one day 0:14:53.200 --> 0:15:02.040 prior to the FBI's busted up North. These days, Pliadel 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:06.120 Carmen has blossomed into a popular tourist destination, but in 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.240 the late nineties it was still closer to a sleepy 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.560 fishing village, not exactly the place for a guy like 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.000 David Gant to lie low. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:22.080 If you're a six foot tall, redheaded dude in a 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.360 Mexican village, you stand out. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.680 According to David, though, this weakness became a strength because 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.640 he could easily monitor the slow trickle of gringoes in 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.640 and out of town. David was keeping an eye out 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.720 for Bruno or someone else connected to Steve who might 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.680 be coming to kill him, but at this point it 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.000 wasn't Bruno David needed to be looking out for. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.640 When the FBI learned that there was a murder plot 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.000 that seemed to be in very much in the works. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:56.840 They sent FBI agent Mark Rozzi down to Plaide del 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.240 Carmen and Cozimel, where they thought David was based on 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:00.680 their tracking phone calls. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.920 Special Agent Rosie wasn't allowed to carry a gun in Mexico, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.960 but he teamed up with several members of inter Pole, 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:12.640 the international police organization that helps law enforcement agencies coordinate 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:16.040 with each other, but they weren't that much help. The 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.640 phone calls had traced David to the hotel La Tortuga, 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.360 a modest place with sealing fans instead of air conditioning. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.440 For someone who had stolen seventeen million dollars then was 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.400 expecting to live the high life. This is definitely a sign. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.880 As charming as the place was, this is definitely a 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.120 sign that things are not going according to plant. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.920 The inter Poll officers were tasked with keeping an eye 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.560 on David during the rare times that he stops stress 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.440 eating M and m's and left his hotel room. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.880 They had tracked David for a while and then the 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.360 Interpol folks lost. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.680 Him, but David says he managed to keep an eye 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:49.160 on them. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:54.040 All government agencies seem to use the same barber because 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.920 they all wear in the same shirt, they got same haircuts, 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.200 saying if they have a mustache, it's to the same standard. 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.080 And I really thought it was odd. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.600 Because there's no tourist bote in and all of a sudden, 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.960 instead of being one GREENO, there's three. 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.399 And I'm like, wait a minute. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.640 But David decides there's not a whole lot he can 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.520 do about it, and anyway, he has to do his laundry, 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.360 so he heads out with the bag of dirty clothes. 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.080 I know these guys are following me. I've seen them 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.200 all through the town. I make the turn going to 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.240 the hotel Lotuga and this car pulls up. 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.040 Suddenly he gets tapped on the shoulder. One of the 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.879 guys with the government issue mustache asks him if he's 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:50.640 David Gant. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.560 I give him a really good cover story that I'm 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.440 Mike McKinny, I'm excellon, I'm on vacation. 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.920 And then the agent says, you're not really Mike mckinn 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.919 are you, mister Gant. David looks back to see the 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:08.359 very American and very FBI looking agent Rozzie, standing just 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:15.000 behind the inner poll officers. He's busted, and oddly enough, relieved. 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:17.439 I'm glad to see you guys. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.640 Then David tells Rozzi, you. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.800 Know those guys wanting to kill me, right? He said, oh, yeah, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:28.000 we know all about We've already we've already arrested them. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.639 Actually, if the FBI said this, it wasn't true, but 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:32.919 they were working on it. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:34.639 I have conversation. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:42.880 And they'd say, we'll see you on the plane tomorrow. 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.040 I interviewed Mark Rozzi, the FBI agent who arrested Ghent, 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.280 and he told me that on the plane, on the 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:54.439 US Airways flight from Mexico back to Charlotte, he was 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.800 starting to interview Ghent, and at one point he asked 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.520 them what was going on between you and Kelly Campbell. 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.280 He asked David this because they had heard from people 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.000 that they were dating, and they had heard on the 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.040 phone that David would say I love you and she 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.720 would kind of not really, you know, reply in the 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:11.200 same way. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:18.760 Here's David Gant, master criminal, author of what at the 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.439 time was the second largest cash heist in American history. 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.960 He's an FBI custody after almost six months on the run, 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.600 and all the FBI wants to ask him about is 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.240 his love life. David's a bit offended. He tries to 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:33.840 put them off. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:40.000 The kiss is not nearly as dramatic as people have 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.280 made it out to be. I mean, it wasn't to 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.520 be honest, it wasn't worth the money it cost me. 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.639 But the FBI won't let it go, and. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:49.439 They were very curious. 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:49.720 You know. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.040 They also knew that she was kind of involved in 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.920 murder plot to some degree and whatnot. They knew a 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.639 lot at this point, so they asked him what was 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.480 going on between the two of you, and David says, 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.399 I only kissed her one time. One time, He says, 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.320 pretty expensive kiss, wasn't. 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:11.600 It to the tune about five mill at least? Probably 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.159 about Hershey's planning get all the kisses you ever wanted. 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.680 That same day that David's being flown back to North 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:28.600 Carolina and FBI custody. Mike McKenny is sound asleep at 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.600 a Hampton end in Gastonia. He stayed up late the 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:36.080 night before, polishing off a six pack, reading a John 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.520 Bishop novel, and fighting off paranoid thoughts. 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.119 You kind of get an ominous feeling when something's about 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:42.600 to go down. 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.639 Mike opens his eyes and reaches for the phone on 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:50.880 the bedside table. 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.280 I'd left to wake up, called the desk so I 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:54.800 could get up and go to the airport. 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.800 But when he picks up the phone, a stern voice asks, 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:00.560 this is Mike McKenny. He is. 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:03.040 FBI open the door? 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.760 What this the NBI open the door? 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.440 Mike scrambles out of bed in his boxers. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.080 No sooner, just barely turning knob. They were coming in 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.240 from the jointed suite and with your front door. 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.000 The Hampton End room is now packed with FBI agents. 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.200 Of course, the first thing they say is hands up. 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.080 Put them where I can see him, get up against 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:29.400 the wall. 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.080 And he turned around and asked him, well, which one 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:32.520 do you want? 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:35.240 You want the hands up or you want me on 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:35.560 the wall. 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.800 These commands seem pretty compatible to me. But look, to 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:42.919 be fair, it's really early in the morning. 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:47.399 That's why law enforcement always prefers pre dawn raids. So 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.840 you're not fully aware. 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.639 John Whydra is gonna be pissed when he hears you 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.720 say that. Meanwhile, the agents start tearing apart the room. 0:21:58.000 --> 0:21:59.639 Ask him where the money is. Where the money is? 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:03.199 I was like, I don't have it. There's like a 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:05.960 million and a half missing. They automatically assumed I had it, 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:09.520 but I actually got arrested. I had like fifty five 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.840 dollars on me, so kind of disappointed them. 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:20.840 That day. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.120 I think I'd been out partying the night before, been 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.560 four wheeling in the truck, and so when I got home, 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:30.919 I just, you know, stripped down to my underwear and 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:34.200 went to bed. And then the phone rings first thing 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:38.119 in the morning, and I answered the phone, and they said, 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.119 this is the FBI. We're outside. Don't hang up the phone. 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:43.680 Coming unlocked the door. If you don't open it, we're 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:47.280 gonna knock it down. And I was like, well, okay. 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.240 Kelly jumps out of bed and looks out the blinds. 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.760 They've sent an army after her. Police an FBI are 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:54.680 all over the yard. 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.359 So I'm freaked out. So I didn't put my robe on. 0:22:57.920 --> 0:22:59.760 I just grabbed it and put it up like this. 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.160 For visual reference, she's holding her hand up over her 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.680 chest in my core as she recalls her rude awakening. 0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:07.560