WEBVTT - Ep 19: The Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Novel. This show contains adult material and swearing. You have

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<v Speaker 1>been warned the doctor thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if I necessarily see myself in a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with the doctor, because I feel like our lives

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<v Speaker 2>would be so different.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, keep come home from saving someone's life and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing a TikTok or.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad and I'm like, babe, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>about this joke I've written about analding me. I'm a savage.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you bored of modern dating?

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<v Speaker 2>Meeting the same people from the same apps in the

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<v Speaker 2>same bar you've only chosen because it's close to your

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<v Speaker 2>house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's

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<v Speaker 2>time to change the narrative on how we find love.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to start looking for love in all the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only

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<v Speaker 2>picking people who are the total opposite of my type.

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<v Speaker 2>And after twenty eight of these dates in two months,

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<v Speaker 2>will I find that special someone or Well, this experiment

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<v Speaker 2>proved that I should just give up on dating altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to find out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so ross, this date was the first time ever in

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<v Speaker 2>my life that I've been on a date that did

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<v Speaker 2>not have alcohol involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that really crazy with me? To admit?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think maybe it'll be crazy for some people.

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<v Speaker 3>But even like, I'm not a big drinker, and if

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<v Speaker 3>I was going a first stade, I would feel like

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<v Speaker 3>I would need a drink to settle my nerves.

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<v Speaker 2>You do, because I think, how does one without alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>on a date get to the point where they're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm gonna kiss you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't imagine ever doing that sober for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time.

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<v Speaker 3>There's gonna be people listening who are like they can fathom.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, yeah, of course I'd go on a date

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll have a drink. But everyone's different, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would definitely be on the same page as he was

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<v Speaker 3>in like going for a date to don't call sober,

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<v Speaker 3>I would be like, yeah, I think I need to

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<v Speaker 3>definitely have like a can of Monster or.

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<v Speaker 1>Something loads of cbdal CB deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, Monster would be the worst thing because I'd probably

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<v Speaker 3>tell them my life story. Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>That would make you too like hyper.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and probably give you the ships as well, which

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So his name is Aaron and We got set up

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<v Speaker 2>by a mutual friend and we went to meet in

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<v Speaker 2>a cafe in the middle of the day. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a lunchtime date because he is a doctor, which is

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<v Speaker 2>very cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, especially I'm like such a hypochondriac. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that would be like a dream same.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm like a doctor's worse nightmare. Like, once

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<v Speaker 2>I got the phone number of a doctor, it's game

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<v Speaker 2>over because I just literally call them all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But actually that's that's what I actually ended up doing

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<v Speaker 2>for sort of.

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<v Speaker 3>The first half of the day was totally great.

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<v Speaker 1>All my ailments, I know, talk about what that's good

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<v Speaker 1>that you know your name. This is Eddie, my dog.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I do love Eddie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's great, She's very chill. She just goes to sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>So how do you feel like I spent more attention

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<v Speaker 4>on Eddie than you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I actually would enjoy that because I recently went

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<v Speaker 2>on a date when I had her and the guy

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't acknowledge her. It was really weird, like she

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<v Speaker 2>was there and he just didn't look at her at all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a red flag.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're going to have the opposite red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Much prefer that she's so hard not to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of doctor are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a GP.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm a hypochondriac. I've got so.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone thinks I got something seriously wrong with her. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you're twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four, in good health.

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<v Speaker 4>You're in better shape than me. Actually, like why why

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<v Speaker 4>why are you here wasting your time in my time?

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<v Speaker 3>I see there's a running team here where you slightly

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<v Speaker 3>bully them a little bit. You're like, oh, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>You know your name.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Grace, that's what I do. Like it's I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm really means men.

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<v Speaker 3>When we get to the twenty eight date, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to try break you down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know where it comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's that clussic, you know, like the girl

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<v Speaker 2>in like Rugrats or something. She just thinks that like

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<v Speaker 2>the way that boys will like us if she just

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<v Speaker 2>pushes them over, like beats them up. That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>was like a primary school.

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<v Speaker 3>I picture you going into a first date not being

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<v Speaker 3>nervous at all and taking like I suppose taking the

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<v Speaker 3>ball by the horns and actually directing the date. But like,

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<v Speaker 3>am I wrong? And you nervous going into dates.

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<v Speaker 1>It really depends. It depends on my mood.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on who like the vibes that the person

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<v Speaker 2>has given me before. So like, if if I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we're going to have things in common, they're not really.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I feel like it's a bit random or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm somewhere a bit out of like my comfort zone,

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<v Speaker 2>like not in Northwest London, then yeah I am nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>But like if it's like somewhere familiar and like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the best first date is like you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>like either have a mutual friend with them or there's

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<v Speaker 2>something in common. I don't really get that nervous before dates.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like I've been on so many first

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<v Speaker 2>dates now that I've just like lost the like energy

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<v Speaker 2>to be that nervous before. I know, no, little that

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<v Speaker 2>sound you just made is not really tragic, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what though?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know, like say if you walked in and

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<v Speaker 3>someone was really really like you were so attracted.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, then they get nervous under yeah, yeah, one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent, And then I do get nervous, and

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, they're there are situations where like people

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<v Speaker 2>do make me nervous, But on like a first date.

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<v Speaker 2>Before i've met someone, I'm like, chances are you're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna impress me that much, so I'm not that nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>And then maybe I get there and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is really exciting, and then I'd start to be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish i'd like warn an ice are out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just say if I was going on a

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<v Speaker 3>date with you, I'd be nervous. I would be so nervous, Like, really,

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<v Speaker 3>I obviously know you. I've listened to your podcast, I've

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<v Speaker 3>read your book, so I feel like I would come

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<v Speaker 3>in being very very nervous because you are You come

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<v Speaker 3>across like a really really strong woman. You are a

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<v Speaker 3>really strong woman, and you're funny. You're everything I think

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<v Speaker 3>as a guy coming into the date, they're probably shitting it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes me so happy, just the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>I make me nervous. The doctor thing, I'm like, amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a doctor. But also I'm not sure if I

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily see myself like in a relationship with the doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like our lives would be so different

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<v Speaker 2>and the way that like what we do as a

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<v Speaker 2>job would be really different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if I was with the doctor, I'd be like, God,

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<v Speaker 2>you must think my life is ridiculous, Like you must

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<v Speaker 2>think that I'm like a ridiculous person and nothing in

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<v Speaker 2>my life is real, and like that would make me

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<v Speaker 2>really self conscious that like I'm just a frivolous, little,

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<v Speaker 2>silly little girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he'd come home from saving someone's life and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing a TikTok of my dogs, and I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>well shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And I'm like, babe, do you what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about this joke I've written about anal?

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually really fun day.

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<v Speaker 2>The chat was really good because he was just very

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable and so it was like good flowing conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have a question, what is the age difference?

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's younger, but what's the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was two years younger than me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the end thing like when you're above twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>like two just that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, he told me that he loves stating older women. Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>If I look back at my dating history, I'd say

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<v Speaker 4>most of the girls I've ended up with have been

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<v Speaker 4>older than me. Really, yeah, I think maybe by how

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<v Speaker 4>many is the oldest? Age difference is like three or

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<v Speaker 4>four years. I thought I would have been twenty three

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four, as I was twenty eight. For me, relationships

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<v Speaker 4>are all about communication anyway, So as long as both

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<v Speaker 4>people communication with each other, it shouldn't really be a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you're so young.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you're so young.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, it's so young. I wish I was twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do you think my ex? When I got

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<v Speaker 2>with him, I was twenty three and he was twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am a bit sexist in the sense that

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a bit more normal when the man

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<v Speaker 2>is older.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I think when he's over twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, like I have lots of friends, Like

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<v Speaker 3>my sister goes out with the guy who's three years

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<v Speaker 3>younger than her and like they're like perfect together. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just all about the individual's maturity level.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's fine. And he sounds really mature,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm normally seeing like well two minutes of him,

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<v Speaker 3>but like he's trained to be a doctoring, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a last.

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<v Speaker 1>He's training to be a doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>And also he was just like talking about communication now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>He's older than his years in maturity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and do you know what, I've never gone out

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<v Speaker 3>with someone who's younger than me. I've gone out with

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<v Speaker 3>guys who are older than me. Like I've had big

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<v Speaker 3>age gaps.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's the biggest age gap?

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<v Speaker 3>Eleven years?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And I look back and I'm like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, Like I was, I was probably I was

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<v Speaker 3>in my early twenties and the asiac was too big,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like in terms of like we were totally

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<v Speaker 3>different spectrums of our life, Like, yes, I should have

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<v Speaker 3>been out enjoying my life and partying, but like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I was very mature. I had been traveling the world,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd been working. I'd left my house when I was seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>So I definitely felt older. But I actually it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>only now that I'm I'm thirty two. Would idate a

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<v Speaker 3>thirty year old?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, keep me young, No, I mean now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting older, Like I can so see myself like in

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<v Speaker 2>my fifties, of like men in their thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's I can really see that as I get older.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just when you're still in your twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>everything feels more like big than it actually is, if

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense. So because when I remember, like I

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<v Speaker 2>once stated a guy who was a year younger than me,

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<v Speaker 2>not long ago, and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>like a young lover and it was a year I

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<v Speaker 2>think we were in the same school year. He just

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<v Speaker 2>like his birthday was like after me, No, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a turn off at all if they're cool, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>He was. He was like, he was good to chat to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So did he say anything that was like, from

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm getting right now, he seems perfect. He seemed

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<v Speaker 3>really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>He did he say anything that gave me the ick? No,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't ick like, he wasn'n it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I was necessarily attracted to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, sorry, I didn't even ask what was what

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<v Speaker 3>he looked like?

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<v Speaker 1>What did he look like? That's a good question. He

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<v Speaker 1>looked like.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I say one thing I will say from doing

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<v Speaker 3>this podcast, I realized it actually doesn't matter what people

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<v Speaker 3>look like. It's all about like your chat compatibility and

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<v Speaker 3>like the energy you get off them would do you anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely seem like it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Found really interesting about this podcast, because I'm surprised myself

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<v Speaker 2>by people, like by actually having a great like vibe

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<v Speaker 2>with someone that I would have never like swiped to

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<v Speaker 2>on a dating app basically because they never fit my

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<v Speaker 2>like sort of more standard type. This guy, he looks

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<v Speaker 2>a bit like what's the guy's name who is in

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<v Speaker 2>super Bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Who isn't Joonah Hill, Michael Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, guy, he's also an Arrested Development him. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>So he looks like your man from Arrested Development.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's someone else that's like really on the tip

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<v Speaker 2>of my tongue, but I just it's not coming to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just say that, and the guy will listen

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, Okay, I've never been told that.

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<v Speaker 3>You just kind of like expect him to be funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, yeah, no, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Arrested Development.

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<v Speaker 1>I love he's.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people aren't good at communicating or because that

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<v Speaker 2>shows that, like, you're probably like quite like emotionally intelligent person.

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<v Speaker 2>If at the age of like twenty three you could

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<v Speaker 2>have gone out of an older woman.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and even from a like biological point of view,

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<v Speaker 4>like med's brains tend to develop a little bit later, So.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually true, like men's brains developed lower my.

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<v Speaker 4>Brains brains, the average men's brain is slightly different to

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<v Speaker 4>the average women's brain. I think when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>relationships and having that emotional tallegence, which is obviously more

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<v Speaker 4>needed a relationship, it probably takes a little bit longer

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<v Speaker 4>for guys to work out that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that actually did he read that enough? I check better?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is it like I know we've joken, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>I know that, Like you know, in society we always

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<v Speaker 3>say that, like you know, oh, men are and ready

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<v Speaker 3>to settle down by x age, and you know they

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<v Speaker 3>take longer to they take longer to mature. So he's

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<v Speaker 3>actually he's confirming that with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing about that, right, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know science, but like I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's such a cop out for men to then

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<v Speaker 2>be able to say.

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<v Speaker 3>That, yeah, that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure it is true because like going

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<v Speaker 2>by like averages, like most men I've met when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger were really immature and have since matured.

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<v Speaker 3>And I suppose when you think of it, like most

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<v Speaker 3>like just completely at myself here and now I was

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<v Speaker 3>probably ready to like okay, I could possibly settle in

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<v Speaker 3>and take a relationship seriously at like twenty eight, whereas

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<v Speaker 3>like most guys, I know, it's like they it's like

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<v Speaker 3>thirty three. Yeah, they're like, okay, now I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're so lucky I think for that because

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<v Speaker 2>we do get stressed. I mean, I'm now going to

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<v Speaker 2>be like thirty three. I think I'm like not stressing

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<v Speaker 2>at all. But I remember a few years ago I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, well, I need to know who I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be with by the end of my thirties because

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<v Speaker 2>then I need to start, you know, thinking about having

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<v Speaker 2>children with them. That is so stressful, Like it's an

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessary stress that we have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it is pretty shit for us, Like we

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot to think about it, especially if you

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<v Speaker 3>want kids. But guys, they can literally just keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>The way I probably express love and affection if we

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<v Speaker 4>sort of talk about love angry, yes, which I thought

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<v Speaker 4>was an absolute myth until someone kind of I was

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<v Speaker 4>like very scientific and I'd be like, this is rubbitch,

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<v Speaker 4>Like this is just a load, Like I would honestly

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<v Speaker 4>put it like alongside hovoscopes in terms of how much

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't believe in it previously. And if you tell

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<v Speaker 4>me that you love horoscopes and then I have a

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<v Speaker 4>long conversation about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that's not really my dad. But love languages

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<v Speaker 1>and attachment.

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<v Speaker 3>Style I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I do very much believe in love languages and for me,

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<v Speaker 4>quality time and physical touch, the ways I communicate it

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<v Speaker 4>and probably in the ways ways I probably want to receive.

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<v Speaker 1>It most of the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I had one go once kind of showered me if

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<v Speaker 4>gifts very early on, and I felt some other I

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<v Speaker 4>do right.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like that, Rod, do you are you into

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<v Speaker 1>love languages?

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea what my love language is, really,

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<v Speaker 3>no idea, like why are they?

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<v Speaker 2>So this is how you receive love, so that it's

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel you receive love the best. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>physical touch, words of affirmation, quality time. So if somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>say like comes and spends time with you, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't leave at six the next day, like actually spends

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<v Speaker 2>the morning with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Acts of service.

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<v Speaker 2>So if somebody comes and fixes your boiler or you've

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<v Speaker 2>got light bulb that needs changing, whatever, And then gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>So somebody who like thinks of you says, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw this thing and it made me think of you

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<v Speaker 2>like that, you receive love like that. So for example,

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<v Speaker 2>like with my mom, like she's acts of services like

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<v Speaker 2>how she gives love, but I don't really receive love

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<v Speaker 2>that way. I for her, would receive love from her

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<v Speaker 2>if she gave me a hug, like her giving me

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<v Speaker 2>a hug would make me feel so much more love

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<v Speaker 2>than her like coming and fixing my life.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So like basically how I show love to people is

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<v Speaker 5>I love to give them stuff, So I'll like bake

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<v Speaker 5>someone something, I'll give them presents, like I love to

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<v Speaker 5>gift people things, and that's my me showing.

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<v Speaker 2>But then which of those do you feel? Is how

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<v Speaker 2>you receive love?

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<v Speaker 3>So I like when people give me backstuff, oh do

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<v Speaker 3>you yeah? Yeah? But then like say my boyfriend, he

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<v Speaker 3>prefers like acts of service.

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<v Speaker 5>So like if I like cleaned the house or like

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<v Speaker 5>did something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm like, here's a cake. The kitchen's in

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<v Speaker 3>a mess with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why because you're basically doing what you want.

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<v Speaker 2>If that makes sense, So for me, mine our physical

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<v Speaker 2>time and presents. I love receiving gifts. I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>giving gifts, but I like receiving gifts. So like with

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<v Speaker 2>my ex boyfriend, like until I figured out what his were,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to buy him present, so I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>would instigate him buying me present.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not how he received a game. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting. He told the story of when a relationship had

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<v Speaker 3>gone wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and then he told me about the first

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<v Speaker 2>date of his that did not go well either.

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<v Speaker 4>I went on a date that was a blind date

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<v Speaker 4>and the date was basically bad from the start, like

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<v Speaker 4>there wasn't that attraction from either sides. And about an

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<v Speaker 4>hour and she was like, I'm actually quite hungry. I

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<v Speaker 4>think I might go after dinner. No, as we're going

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<v Speaker 4>up to the bar to like to pay, she's like,

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<v Speaker 4>do you mind if I pay for my drink? I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's problem, and she pays for hers. I paid for mine,

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<v Speaker 4>and then she gives me this sort of scowling look.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, Okay. She's like, you know what, I've never

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<v Speaker 4>been on a date and the guy hasn't paid for me.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell? But she was like, can I pay off?

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't even a discussion about paying, she brought up

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<v Speaker 4>the topic if you offer you actually it shouldn't be empty.

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<v Speaker 1>Bless him.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, Yeah, it's absolutely it's peak out there.

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<v Speaker 3>He's kind of like in the dating world, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I I used to do this. You only say

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<v Speaker 3>something but you don't mean it, but you're just testing them.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, And that's so toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to do stuff like that all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>not on a first day.

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<v Speaker 1>I do it like in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and look, I think, if we're all honest, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people listening to this will go, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely do that when I was younger as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's kind of what she's doing. She was like

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<v Speaker 3>testing him, and then it was like, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>he actually did he didn't pay.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's so weird to do with someone when A

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<v Speaker 2>it's clearly not a vibe, you're clearly not having a

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<v Speaker 2>good day, and b you're leaving. It's just it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>So bless him. I felt I felt like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I was like necessarily attracted to this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt like a fondness for him, like I liked him.

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<v Speaker 3>He seems like a really nice guy. And even the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that, like he brings up that story, he's still

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<v Speaker 3>probably quite he seemed to be like quite traumatized by

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<v Speaker 3>don I know that, like he someone left a date

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<v Speaker 3>thinking that he was like not nice or like a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a screwge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's been thinking about it because he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>people to think that about him. He seemed like a

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<v Speaker 2>very well mannered, well raised young man.

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<v Speaker 3>And the sad thing is like you're just not physically

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<v Speaker 3>attracted to him, So like, do you think you'd even

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<v Speaker 3>see him again?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not for a date capacity, but definitely like as

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<v Speaker 2>a friend, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, would you set him up with someone?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely I would set him up with someone. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. Yeah, I know that's not a good question.

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<v Speaker 3>I always think that, like sometimes you meet someone and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, they are so nice, but I'd like them

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<v Speaker 3>as a friend, but like they would be I love

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<v Speaker 3>them to go one of my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>That is such a good question because actually also I

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<v Speaker 2>know that loads of my friends would like like this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's such a good way to think about it, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>because then it's not a waste, is it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's like one for me, one for you, one

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think he's probably one of the only

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<v Speaker 2>ones I've been on a date with so far that

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<v Speaker 2>i'd like set up with someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>Good man are good job?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. And then if he goes out one

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<v Speaker 3>of your friends, you can still text me a bit

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<v Speaker 3>all your ailments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, exactly. I've got like three doctors on text already.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like driving them all mad next time.

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<v Speaker 2>On twenty eight Dates Later, not a bag weamons so

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<v Speaker 2>many gay group chucks.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it's because men are a plague,

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<v Speaker 4>but straight away from like love.

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<v Speaker 3>The dates that we've listened to, I love her, I

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<v Speaker 3>love her around me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a savage can it?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty eight Dates Later is produced by Novel for iHeartRadio,

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<v Speaker 2>but more from Novel Visit novel Dot Audio. The series

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<v Speaker 2>Pursal and Dan White. The producer is Diggory Way. The

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<v Speaker 2>executive producer is Claire Broughton. I read it to are

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<v Speaker 2>Mithily Raw and Max O'Brien. Production management from Charie Houston

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<v Speaker 2>and Charlotte Wall. Willard Foxton is our creative director. Of

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<v Speaker 2>Development

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