1 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode twenty nine in the 2 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Hammer Territory Podcast. I am your host, Brad Roland, coming 3 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: to you on the evening of June sixteenth. It is 4 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Father's Day, and I am joined as I almost always am, 5 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: by Scott Coleman. Scott, how you feeling here in mid June? 6 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, Happy Father's Day to all of our dad 7 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: listeners out there. And I gotta be honest, Bread, for 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 2: the first time in a while, it feels like you 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: and I are doing one of these Sunday evening shows 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: and there's some like legitimate good things going on with 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: the Braves. It certainly has not always felt this way, 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: of course, coming off of a pretty terrible road trip, 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: but it looks like finally the Braves have woken up 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: a little bit offensively, and that is very much a 15 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: site for sore eyes, because as we know, it has 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: not been the prettiest picture over the last month and 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: a half. That's right, and of course the Sunday curse 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: for those of us, for those people who've listened to 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: us for a long time, know that even when the 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: Braves semlarly are playing well, they tend to lose on 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: Sundays before me and Scott in particular have to record 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: podcasts that actually happened today. But I totally agree with 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: you there is more of an upbeat tenor to this podcast. 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: We should also stay at the top of the show 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: that we are part of the Foul Territory network of podcasts. 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: Please subscribe to this show. It would be a huge 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: favorite to us rate and review as well Apple, Spotify, Overcast, 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: et cetera. We will focus some later on the podcast 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: about Michael Harris and the injury there. Unfortunately, in the 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: fallout of that, also touch on Grant Holmes's debut, the 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: movement that is Grant Holmes, also some struggles from person 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: and Waldrope, et cetera. But we should always begin where 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: you just started, and that is with a pretty encouraging 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: weekend plus So basically, the Braves just went three to 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: one since the last time that either you I were 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: on the show, and that's a positive thing. They won 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: the series this weekend against Tampa even it would have 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: lost today and you teased it. But I think the 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: biggest story by far, even with the Harris injury, which 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: we are to talk about a little bit on this podcast. 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Feed with Steven and Sean that the offense actually scored 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: some runs twenty eight runs in the last four games, 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: including and I think crucially, at least six runs in 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: all four of those games. You don't want to sort 45 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: of celebrate too early about this team being quote unquote back, 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: especially given the injuries and the losses that they have, 47 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: but at the very least the bats have started to 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: heat up a little bit. Yeah, it really is encouraging 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: to see, and especially some of the players that the 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: Braves really need to step up have seemingly started to 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: step up. Austin Riley had his best weekend by far 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: all season long. I mean, he had a tremendous at bat, 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: one of the best at bats on Sunday afternoon of 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: his probably his whole career, to tie the game with 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: a two run homer to dead center. There's encouraging signs there. 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: Jared Kelnick is kind of quietly really putting together a 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: nice season. Seems like he's figuring some things out. Sean 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: Murphy drove the ball pretty well at times over the 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: last couple of days, even if the results aren't great. 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: And maybe the stat of the podcast and this blew 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: my mind when I was researching it and double check 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: this because math was never my strong suit. But stat 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: of the podcast tonight, the Braves scored twenty two runs 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: in the three games this weekend. 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Twenty two runs. 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: That's the most runs the Braves have scored in three 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: consecutive games this season since opening weekend, where they scored 68 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: twenty five. 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: So we're talking quite. 70 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Literally, since that first series of the year, the Braves 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: have not put up twenty two runs in three consecutive 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: games until they did this weekend against Tampa. So finally, 73 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: some signs of life. Of course, we're only talking about 74 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: four games where the offense has woken. We need to 75 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: see them continue to do it, and God, let's hope 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: if this office can get going, especially the way the 77 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: pitching has been for the most part, it feels like 78 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: the Braves are on the cusp of really breaking out here. 79 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: And let's hope this weekend was really just a big 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: first step in the right direction. 81 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: That would, of course be nice, and there is reason 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: for belief. You know, we talked to you and I 83 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: on our last podcast together a week ago kind of 84 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: wondering a loud if we should be worried at this 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: point in time, and you know, at least, you know, 86 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily going to the yellow light on that. But 87 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things where I kind 88 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: of always fell I think you did two to some degree. 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Like the math was just on the side of the 90 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Braves being at least a little bit better than they 91 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: had been. I think no one, even the harshest, most angry, 92 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: brave skeptic right now or four days ago, probably would 93 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: have been in a moment of sobriety willing to acknowledge 94 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: that they were probably not going to have the worst 95 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: offense in the league over the rest of the season 96 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: had they been, which is where they worried the previous 97 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: month or so. But you know, and again we're not 98 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: trying to declare victory here after four games, but the 99 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: offense looks like the offense is supposed to look. And that, 100 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: of course, as you teased earlier, talk about again later 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: having guys who are supposed to hit, namely Austin Riley 102 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: hitting again is probably part of that too, because you know, 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: for all of Marcelo Zuna is brilliance, and he has 104 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: been brilliant all year long. No one can carry an 105 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: offense by themselves, not even Argua with the best dinner 106 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: in baseball so far the season, or at least the 107 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: western in the National League so far this season in Ozuna. 108 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: And it's got to be a collective effort, and we 109 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: kind of saw that more and more in the last 110 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: three or four games. 111 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: Well on the advats look better. I mean, that was 112 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: really my takeaway. Obviously the results are one thing, but man, 113 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you watch those National Series and you sit 114 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: there watching it's like, did these guys do any pregame prep? 115 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: Did they predetermine that they were going to swing it 116 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: pitches one, two and four in the ad bat and 117 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: just let it rip. It felt like there was more 118 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: of an approach. They were more patient, they were in 119 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: more favorable counts, deeper counts. Overall, it was just really encouraging. 120 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: And it was a warm weekend in Atlanta. I'm sure 121 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: the weather warming up is only going to help this 122 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: team because, as we know, and as we've talked about 123 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: on this show for quite some time now, despite the 124 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: lack of results for the all of May and the 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: early parts of June, the Braves have continued to hit 126 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: the ball hard. The exit velocity is good, the hard 127 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: hit rate is good, the barrel rate is good, it 128 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: just was a lack of results and maybe as it 129 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: warms up, if that's going to translate into more home runs. 130 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: Off the top of my head, the Braves had seven 131 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: home runs this weekend, I think. I mean that is 132 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: a huge sign that the Braves are back to doing 133 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: what they did last season when they just bludgeoned team 134 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: was seemingly two or three home runs every single night. 135 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that, I promise listeners that are new 136 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: or returning that we're going to dive into these three 137 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: games a little bit more. But a not so fun 138 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: stat at the top. Last year, the Braves only had 139 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: eighteen games all season long without a home run, which 140 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: is an absurd number. We talked about how good they 141 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: were last year endlessly, but that is an absurd number. 142 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: This year they already have more. They have twenty five 143 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: games without a home run already this year after eighteen 144 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: all year last year. So that kind of tells you, 145 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: and look, we will kind of gloss over this. It's 146 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: been talked about, but Alex Vanthopoulos did a pretty lengthy 147 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: and I would say out of character interview for him. 148 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't usually call those kind of interviews mid season, 149 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: but it was like twenty minutes or so, and he 150 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: kind of just was pretty open, like they built this 151 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: team for power. We all kind of know that, we've 152 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: all talked around it. This is a team built on power, 153 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: and when the power is happening, as it usually is, 154 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: they tend to score a lot of runs. And to 155 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: your point, they tended to blast the ball this weekend, 156 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: and hey, would you look at that. The results were 157 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: much better when you got to hit the ball a 158 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: long way. 159 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I thought a couple of days ago, I 160 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: had the chance to interview Justin Tuscano of the ajac 161 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: and if you miss that show, please I would encourage 162 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: you to go back and listen. Justin had some really 163 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: great insight into what he has seen inside the clubhouse 164 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: while covering the team, and Justin's gild takeaway was, for 165 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: the first time in a while, he felt like there 166 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: was some real confusion and maybe angst in the clubhouse, 167 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: especially after the rough series in Washington where they had 168 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: lost three of four and had lost six out of 169 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: eight to the Nationals. So it's good to see the 170 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: Braves just kind of settle back in And you mentioned 171 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: Anthopolis talking to the media. I was a little surprised 172 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: that he did it. Good on Alex for being candid 173 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: with the state of the roster, and you know, as 174 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: Alex said, and I think it's of course down the 175 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: road a little ways. It's going to be very interesting 176 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: to see what he does come trade deadline time, because 177 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: there are quite a few things that this roster could use. 178 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: It's just going to be a matter of what kind 179 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: of market there is and what he feels are ultimately 180 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: going to give this team the best chance in September 181 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,359 Speaker 2: and hopefully deep into October. 182 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are a line there. And I would echo 183 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: that I had nothing to do with that interview that 184 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: you did with Justin, but I would strongly encourage everybody 185 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: to listen to that because Justin's very smart and that 186 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: was a fun listen as well as our entire archive. 187 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: Because I know, by the way Stephen and especially Sean, 188 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: we're very busy on the feed. This week. We did 189 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: an extra because Sean is a hero and broke in 190 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: some extra stuff on Friday night into Saturday. So a 191 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: busy week. Please subscribe to the show and we'll have 192 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: much more to come, including on this podcast. 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Sunday was a loss, but Friday was again 230 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: a continuation of a second stright game of positivity on offense. 231 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Seven runs, twelve hits. I will say it was grouped together. 232 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: They scored all seven runs in the first two innings 233 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: on Friday, but it was enough. You mentioned Austin Rabbie 234 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: heating up. He had a home run for the first 235 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: time in a long time on Friday, that also has 236 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: been pretty good late lately, and of course they handed 237 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: it over to Chris Sale, who has been Chris Sale, 238 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: and man, I feel like we do this every week, 239 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 1: but Chris Sale has been absurd too. So Friday was 240 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: kind of a breezy win and silver Saturday in a 241 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: lot of ways, but again kind of more of that 242 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: power emphasis because they had home runs, doubles, et cetera. 243 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: Well, And it was especially nice because we could probably 244 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: count on one hand the number of breezy wins the 245 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: Braves have had since the calendar turned to May. Even 246 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: the wins have seemingly been like these these slugfests where 247 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: they're just trying to hang on to win. Even Thursday's 248 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: game in Baltimore was like that, you took the words 249 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: out of my mouth with Chris Sale. What more can 250 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: we say? Seven innings. For the fifth time in six starts, 251 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: Sale has gone seven innings, which is so impressive, and 252 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: admittedly he wasn't even like his a oneself on Friday. 253 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: And the final line is seven innings, five hits, three 254 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: of which came in the first inning, two runs, seven strikeouts, 255 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: and two Walks. I mean, this guy, he is just 256 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: so locked in, and we mentioned the big offensive performances 257 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: from Ozuna. Who dude, Marcelo Zuna. We got to start 258 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: talking about like a legitimate triple crown possibility here, Marcelo's 259 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: Una Homers, Austin Riley Homers first time since May third, 260 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: And as we kind of talked about on the podcast 261 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, Matt Olsen has kind of 262 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: quietly been very good for maybe a month now. It 263 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: feels like he is back. We know how good Ozuna 264 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: has been, and if Austin Riley, if this is the 265 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: start of Austin's crazy summer runs that he seemingly always does, 266 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: that big three is going to be able to carry 267 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: the Braves, especially if a couple more guys in the 268 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: bottom half of the lineup can step up. 269 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I sort of alluded to this, and I'll keep 270 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: it short, I promise, but for whatever reason, I'll just 271 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: be brought in say the reply. Guys can't seem to 272 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: understand that Matt Olsen's been pretty good this year, Like 273 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: every time I see a tweet or every time, but 274 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times it's like the offense is struggling. 275 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: Look at Matt Olsen, he's doing this. I'm like, Matt 276 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: Olsen's been very clearly their second best hitter this year. 277 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: You know, there's a big gap there. Admittedly Ozuna has 278 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: been out of his mind, but Matt Olsen had had 279 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: like maybe a three week stretch where he was bad 280 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: and the rest of the year has been awesome. Pretty much. 281 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: He's a one twenty eight WRC plus and yeah, that's 282 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: not where he was last year when he was not 283 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: going to probably repeat that ding how good he was. 284 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: But if you just told me he had a one 285 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: twenty eight RC plus, it's like, yeah, that's kind of 286 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: a B minus for him, but that's that's a very 287 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: good hitter, no problem. Well and give it a couple 288 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: of weeks and I think Matt will be in the 289 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: one forties pretty I mean, he did bats to look 290 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: really good right now. 291 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: You know, even over the last week. I can think 292 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: of a couple of times or he just missed a 293 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: pitch that could have gone very far. So yeah, my 294 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: concern level with Matt is zero at this point. 295 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: Agreed. Looking ahead, I guess a little bit to Saturday. 296 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: Of course, their third straight win the first time they 297 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: had won three in a row in a very long time. 298 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: That was the first game host Michael Harris. We'll talk 299 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: about him and the injury a little bit more later 300 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: in the podcast, but sort of the pivot of that was, 301 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: you know, what's that auful going to look like? But 302 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: also who's going to hit lead off? Because Harris has 303 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: been leading off against right handers since Ronald went down, 304 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: and they went to Jared Keelnick, who we teased a 305 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: little bit earlier, but he had probably the biggest single 306 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: swing of the day on Saturday with a two run 307 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: homer that kind of took the lead and never relinquished it. 308 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: What did you make of that aspect? We're going to 309 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: the outfield later on, but do you like or are 310 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: you okay with hitting Kelnick lead off? Because look, we 311 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: all can understand this, but there really is not an 312 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: ideal option in the options frontal. 313 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it made sense to me because, as you just outlined, 314 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: who else is going to do it? Don't have Michael Harris, 315 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: you don't have Roli Cunya Junior, Ozzie Alby's is not 316 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: a leadoff hitters, not against righty's, not for yes, correct 317 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: against lefties, Yes, let Ozzy have the first crack at 318 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: the left handed pitcher because we know what he does 319 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: to them. But we're going to talk about Adam Duvall, 320 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: but obviously Duval is not a candidate to lead off. 321 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: You're not going to have the catchers do it. You're 322 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: not going to put one of the big boppers up there. 323 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: So Kelnick is very much the only option that I 324 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: see to lead off against righty's which is going to 325 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: be most of the time. And if you've been listening 326 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: to the show, we've talked about it. I think it's 327 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: been a little flown under the radar a little bit. 328 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: But Kelnick has been quite good for maybe the past 329 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: month now. He's done a lot a lot of things. 330 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: The power is starting to show up. His strikeouts have 331 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: gone down a little bit. He's still not walking a ton, 332 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: but I feel like he is at bats are better 333 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: and he's working into the count more, and I mean 334 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: right now, it seems like he's kind of given the 335 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: team a little bit of a spark. 336 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: Again. 337 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: We could probably say after everything on this show that 338 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: it was only three or four games that we're talking about, 339 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: but it feels like to me that Kelnick is going 340 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: to be the leadoff guy just about every night moving 341 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: forward against right handed pitching and even against lefties. I'm 342 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: curious to see what Kelnick is going to be able 343 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: to do, especially if he's down in the seventh or 344 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: eighth spot, and I like the idea of having him 345 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: out there basically every day. 346 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: Heaus. 347 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: We've talked about really throughout the winter and coming into 348 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: the season, it would behoove the Braves to see what 349 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: exactly Kelnick is over close to one sixty two, because 350 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: he is a player who could be in their long 351 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: term plans. 352 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we talked about it a lot a lot 353 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: over the winter about, like you know, right now, it's 354 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of found money with Kelnick. You're hoping he's just 355 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: going to be a league average bat or whatever, but 356 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: there was always upside there, top prospect, top draft pick, 357 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: super talented. Maybe it comes together, but yeah, as long 358 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: as he's hitting, I have no issue with whatsoever. There 359 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: are more drastic options, Like I think some of the 360 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: more cerametrically inclined folks that I tend to think are 361 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: pretty smart. I've floated like Austin Hing hitting lead off, 362 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: which actually wouldn't mind. But I think Braceman will probably 363 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: freak out on the whole, like the Saw Riley hitting 364 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: lead off. I would like it, to be honest with you, 365 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: but that's a more extreme and by the way, Snid 366 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: won't do that just so it doesn't actually matter. So yeah, 367 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: we'll leave it there. But I think Kelnick is a 368 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: worthy option in the midst of not having a ton 369 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: of great options to lead off. And by the way, 370 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: lit up construction we used to do a lot more 371 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: on the show. I don't. I just don't care that 372 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: much most of the time. It's it's kind of harmless. 373 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: Every once in a while when I see RCA hitting six, 374 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: I get mad otter than that, I'm. 375 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, or or Adam Duvall should not be batting 376 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: high up against a right handed pitching pitcher. But as 377 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: we kind of talked about, like somebody has to hit somewhere, 378 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: and at some point you just have to hit the 379 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: damn baseball. It's right, like that's the cure all for 380 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: everything is hit the ball, score runs. But yeah, I 381 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: do like the Kelnick at the leadoff spot. You know, 382 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: Ozzie has been okay this season, feels like he's going 383 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: to be locked into that number two spot in the order, 384 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: you have to have Marcel at number three. I know 385 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: that that was one game experiment in Baltimore where Marcel 386 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: was dropped a fifth and everyone was like, wait a minute, 387 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: this dude is legitimately the best hitter in the National 388 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: League right now. Let's not reduce his head pats and 389 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 2: prevent him from going in the first inning every night. 390 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: And we don't have to go through that whole rabbit hole. 391 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: But you know, with Matt and then Riley and you 392 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: just keep going down the list. Hopefully Sean Murphy settles 393 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: in and we're going to talk about Ramon Loreano and 394 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: a couple of the outfield options. You know, it feels 395 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: to me like things are slowly coming together if they 396 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: can just avoid the damn injury bug. And but that's 397 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: been easier said than done really since day one of 398 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: this season. 399 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Yes, certainly that is the case. And even if the 400 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: lap's not what's what it was supposed to be, because 401 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: you you know, you take out Ronald and even Michael Harris, 402 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: it starts to get worse, but still plenty of firepower 403 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: if everybody is still rocking and rolling and healthy. I 404 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: am obligated, of course, Scott to at least mention the 405 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: two words Charlie Morton. He fished quite well again on Saturday. 406 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: Six innings, one run, three hits, struck out eight still 407 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: has an era in the threes. You know, everyone that 408 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: listens to the podcast regularly will know how I fell 409 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: about Charlie. If you don't listen to the podcast regularly, 410 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for listening. Second of all, 411 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: I am known as a Charlie Morton advocate of sorts, 412 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: and no, I don't believe he's an ace at this 413 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: point in time, because he's not. But Charlie Morton. You 414 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: look up in the middle of June the area in 415 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: the threes, striking guys out and doing what Charlie Morton does. 416 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: Brad, do you know what the best part of Charlie 417 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: Morton's starts are? I'm sure it has something to do 418 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: with the game that you made up this weekend. It 419 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: is America's favorite game. America's favorite game, which inning is 420 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: Charlie Morton? And I love Charlie Morton, but what inning 421 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: is Charlie Morton going to hit a left handed batter 422 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: in the foot with a curveball. It's a great game. 423 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: I encourage everyone to play it. Please tweet me whenever 424 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: he's on the mound. You can pick any inning. It 425 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: could be the first, could. 426 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: Be the second. 427 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: It was the third inning on Saturday when Chuck hit 428 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: Chuck hit a batter in the foot. 429 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: That was my prediction. 430 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: I was very proud of myself. A few others also 431 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: had the third inning, So I think this has potential 432 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: to go nationwide. Brad America's favorite game. What inning does 433 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: Charlie Morton hit a batter. 434 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: With a curveball? 435 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 436 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a game that I'll play by myself. 437 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: But anyway, Yes, I saw some enthusiastic responses to your tweet, 438 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: so somebody's gonna be along with you. 439 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: I think let's get it going. You know, could we 440 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: could turn it into a segment on the podcast. We 441 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: could get some awards or like little giveaways if you 442 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: get the inning, or I don't know, we'll work shop 443 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: this for another day. Scott's creating more work for me 444 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: is what he's trying to do right now on the podcast, 445 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: which I definitely appreciate. No, I'm kidding, of course, tongue 446 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: in cheek, but it is worth noting that the pitching 447 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: still has been for most most days. One of five 448 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: days anyway has been quite solid. 449 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: And that includes Charlie, who for my money is the 450 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: best is the best four starter in baseball right now, 451 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: and I will stand on that both with the numbers 452 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: and the eye test. Okay, Scott, let's talk about Sunday. 453 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a lot of talking about Sunday. 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They were down six to 480 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: two after four innings. They come all the way back 481 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: two runs into sixth on four consecutive two out hits. 482 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: Astronomy we mentioned a few times what we should always say. 483 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: You mentioned the at bat. I definitely agree with you. 484 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: A fantastic played appearance follow off six pitches. He seemingly 485 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: has found it in a way that he would think 486 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: he would as an established star player. By the way, 487 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: he doubled his whole run total for the season this weekend. 488 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: He had three home runs this weekend after geting three 489 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: to this point in the season. Now the first number 490 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: is much more concerning the second number, but I think 491 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: that Austin is alive. But I'll just give you the 492 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: numbers now while I have it in front of me. 493 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: His first fifty three games of the season, so until 494 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: basically Friday, he had a six eighteen ops and that 495 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: included a four to six yikes ops. Since your return 496 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: from the injury, those numbers are now looking like they're 497 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: hopefully quite long in the past. And yes, they lost 498 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: the game, but I just want to say this out 499 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: loud that you know Riley looks like Roddy Agan. 500 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: He does. And really, I thought the most encouraging part 501 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: was despite going down six to two pretty early, the 502 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: Braves fought back. They had big hits from a handful 503 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: of players in the lineup, and that was such a 504 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: trademark of this team the last couple of years, where 505 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: even if they were down early, it never felt like 506 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 2: they were out of a game, and candidly, that has 507 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: not been the case for a lot of this season. 508 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: I mean, how many games during the downturn did the 509 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: Braves go down five to nothing early and I was like, well, 510 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: that's game. It was good to see them fight back 511 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: from down four of course, and unfortunate ninth. Then with 512 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: Ryce Eele Iglesias, who we're going to talk about here 513 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: in a little bit, and a pretty discouraging start I 514 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: thought from Hirst and Waldrop, but again kind of the 515 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: overall theme of this podcast was the offense looks so 516 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: much more back to normal and if that's gonna be 517 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: the big takeaway from the series and moving forward. Even 518 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: though they only won two games this weekend, which is 519 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: funny to say, but only one two out of three, 520 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: you will absolutely take it if it means that better 521 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: days are on the horizon. 522 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: Yes, we agree on that, and there's a reason why 523 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: we're trying to emphasize that. It is the theme of 524 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: the podcast. With that said, there was not a lot 525 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: of encouragement with the pitching on Sunday, which got always 526 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: talk about on this Sunday Evening podcast. So you mentioned Waldrop. 527 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: He's looked okay the first time through the order in 528 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: both starts, and then after that the wills come off 529 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: both times, his command, etc. The Braves have already announced 530 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: that he's gonna go back to Gwinnett, so that's not 531 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: a huge surprise after he struggled today, But that is 532 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: already happening as we're recording this podcast. Look, he's still 533 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: a young guy, and we tried to kind of warn people. 534 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: I know when I talked to Garrett Spain, a prospect 535 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: expert that we trust immenseally, on this podcast couple weeks ago, 536 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: he kind of warned about this than we did, and 537 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: I know Sean Steven did. The Waldrop is not considered 538 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: to be anything close to a finished product. He is 539 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: the high upside guy. He is really talented, his splitter 540 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: is incredible, all that stuff, But they, I think the 541 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: people that I trust in valuating minor league options were 542 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: not super convinced that he's gonna be pretty good when 543 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: he arrived because he's not quite there yet. And look, 544 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: that looks to be the case at this point in time. 545 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is going to close the 546 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: door on him for the year by any means, but 547 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: I think that at the very least, we've kind of 548 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: seen why the conterns were there between the fastball not 549 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: being fantastic at this point in time and really kind 550 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: of make a two pitch guy for the most part. 551 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what else you want to add to that, 552 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: but it was it was frustrating. I don't think though, 553 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: this is just me maybe differently. I'm not saying that 554 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: this is like curtains for him by any means, but 555 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: he did not look great this week. 556 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: Well like ninety nine point eight percent of pitchers. There 557 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: is a reason that even if you are a top 558 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: draft pick, they always get one or two years in 559 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 2: the minors, full seasons in the minor leagues before they 560 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: are even close to being ready. Of course, the Braves 561 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: are very aggressive with pushing Waldrop up, but you have 562 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 2: to remember this dude was pitching in the College World 563 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: Series one year ago. If you ever need to remind 564 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: yourself that I know. Today the hot takes were unbelievable. 565 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: This kid's terrible, This kid is a bust, this kid 566 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: is a reliever. 567 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Right, I get it. 568 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: People were frustrated. People wanted to sweep. But at the 569 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: end of the day, Waldrop is twenty two years old. 570 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: He has a plus plus splitter, he has an upper 571 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: nineties fastball, and he has a work in progress breaking ball, 572 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: a pretty tight slider that he throws. 573 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: It is going to take some time. 574 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: Not every twenty two year old is going to come 575 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: up and be Spencer Streider right away, right out of 576 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: the gate. I think this is almost going to be 577 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: if you're looking for a overlining, I think this could 578 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: be a good thing for Hurston that probably, for the 579 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: first time in his baseball life, he got his ass 580 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: kicked a little bit right, like a bad start in DC. 581 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: It started out pretty well, but it went very south, 582 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: very quickly, and then got hammered the second time through 583 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: the lineup today, for the first time in his baseball life, 584 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 2: I think he's kind of taken one on the chin 585 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: and now he knows that he has stuff to work on. 586 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: Has to work on the command, has to work on 587 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: the fastball, has to work on developing his third pitches 588 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: to keep hitters. Honest, I do agree that for this season, 589 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: I probably don't see Waldrop making much of an impact. 590 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: Maybe they could bring him back in a bullpen roll 591 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: or in a fifth starter spot in August or September 592 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: once he's had more time in Gwinnett. But long term, 593 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: even though these first two starts were not great, I mean, 594 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: it would be kind of silly to make any long 595 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: term decisions on Waldrip based on two starts less than 596 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: a year after he was drafted. 597 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Right, and I lost a bet to you on this 598 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: podcast asked about when he would be called up, and 599 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised that they went as fast 600 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: as they did with him. I kind of thought there 601 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: was a chance that he might be up late in 602 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: the year as a reliever. And this is again, this 603 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: is more in a free strattered injury world. But what 604 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: right now? Waldrop's arsenal is more of a reliever arsenal 605 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: like he's working on a third pitch, But yes he is. 606 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: He throws hard and again the splitter is disgusting and 607 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: it looks great even in the majors, But he doesn't 608 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: really have the arsenal right now, I'm look, I'm already 609 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: kind of dreading this next segment because I already know 610 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: what the response will be from a lot of different people. 611 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: But there's a world in which he's just not as 612 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: good as guys like Alan Winans and Bryce Elder, who 613 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: are not as talented as Hersman Walter Piss. But as 614 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: far as getting major league hitterers out right now, especially 615 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: in the third, fourth, fifth innings, it's a difference. Yeah, 616 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: right now today on Jude sixteenth, again, if you give 617 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: me a career. I will definitely take Waldrop part of 618 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: those guys. But as far you know, that's there's always 619 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: a gap there between prospect rightiness and also, look, I'll 620 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: raise my hand here, I'm sure you would admit this 621 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: as well. Brace Fan's been pretty spoiled with how well 622 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 1: all of their big famous prospects have done recently. How 623 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: many guys that are their top, top, top guys have 624 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: come up and not play well right away, like very few. 625 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: And that's part of this too. People are kind of 626 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: spoilt and that's okay. 627 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a learning opportunity for Hurston. I've said this 628 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: a few times. I'll say it again. Nothing in my 629 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: mind has changed long term. He has to figure out 630 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: a way to work the fastball better. He had no 631 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: swing and miss on the fastball today. I believe he 632 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: threw it twenty five times and did not get a 633 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: single whiff on that pitch. The splitter is great, but 634 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: if big league hitters are only looking for one pitch, 635 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: guess what, it can be the greatest pitch on planet Earth. 636 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: It is not going to get them out consistently. And 637 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: we mentioned the slider is very much a work in progress. 638 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: Twenty two years old going to go back to Gwinette. 639 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: I hope the Braves leave him in Gwinnette for at 640 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: least the next two months, so he has a chance 641 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: to go back and kind of pick up on what 642 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: he learned and pitch every five days with the Stripers, 643 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe in September or even October he'll 644 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: play a role of some kind. Of course, the Braves 645 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: need Hurst and Waldrop to be good with the uncertainty 646 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: and the rotation moving forward. They have every reason to 647 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: develop him in the minor leagues. It was not a 648 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: good first glimpse by any means, but Waldrop's ceiling is 649 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: still high, and you just have to hope that he 650 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: continues to get better. 651 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Yes, and we'll leave that there for now. The fallout 652 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: is interesting too, because we're for this again Sunday evening. 653 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: We don't know yet what's going to happen on Monday. 654 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: Snicker did tell the media today the plan is to 655 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: bring a bullpen arm in for Monday. That does not 656 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: mean explicitly that the Braves are going away from the 657 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: six men rotation. 658 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: Now. 659 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: They could go away from it, but it would make 660 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: logical sense for them to use a reliever just because 661 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: they can right now for a couple of days. And 662 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: also there's a wrinkle here. I don't know if this 663 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: is going to happen, but AJ Minter is eligible to return. 664 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: He's his fifteen days are up. He was throwing long 665 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: toss at the stadium today, according to our guy Chris 666 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: willis battery power. I don't know if he's ready, but 667 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. And even if it's not AJ, 668 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: they can go to a reliever if they want to, 669 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: and then they can decide or maybe they already have 670 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: decided whether to go back to five day rotation, or 671 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: they have you know, five days now basically six days 672 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: now to choose another starter, whether it's I think it 673 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: will probably be either Elder or Winans based on their 674 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: performances recently in Gwinette. But that's an interesting decision that 675 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: they have to make, especially if AJ is ready. I 676 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: think obviously he'll come back because he's one of the 677 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: best relievers. But if he's not ready, we'll see. 678 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we will see on the short term, and I 679 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: mean I guess the long term too. I think justin 680 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: Tiscano had some interesting insight that clearly the Braves value 681 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: pushing their starters back and utilizing the six man rotation 682 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: whenever they can. It's my guess that Bryce Elder will 683 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: be back up to make a start at some point 684 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: this upcoming week. You mentioned he's been very good in 685 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: Gwinnett in the month of June. I believe he's made 686 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: four starts with a zero zero point eight two ERA. 687 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: And maybe this is the most surprising and encouraging thing. 688 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: Twenty two innings, twenty nine strikeouts and four walks for 689 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: Brice Elder. And what do we always say, Scott about 690 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: Bryce Elder? Don't yeah, what can he not do? 691 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: Walk people? Because Bryce Elder? Yeah, well, yeah, the strikeout 692 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: numbers are I would take that with a grain of salt. 693 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 1: It is triple A. You have to adjust a little bit. 694 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: But he has been And look, I know I am 695 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: lower on Brice Elder than a lot of people were 696 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: even when he was pitching well. But something we have 697 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: always said for new listeners dating back a year plus 698 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: is that Bryce Elder cannot be a major league starter 699 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: if you watch guys. He doesn't have the stuff for that. 700 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: So if he stops walking people, I can buy him 701 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: as a fifth starter. I don't think he's much beyond that, 702 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: but again there's a world where he's okay. Allen Winans too, 703 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: Like I saw some eye dropping numbers. I think a 704 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: guy Garrett Spain again wrote on Twitter that he this 705 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: is crazy. Alan Wyans generated eighteen swings and misses on 706 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: his change up in one start. Now that's triple A. 707 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: But still that's kind of absurd. And he has seventies 708 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: strikeouts and his last two starts with two walks. So 709 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: like again, no one's going to get terribly excited about 710 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: Ellen Winen or Briyce Elder and including me. But we'll 711 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: do our little mini spiel now about fifth starters and 712 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: how everybody doesn't have a great fifth starter. That's still 713 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: the case, and the brids are just plugging holes. And look, 714 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: Schwellenbach is still by the way in the rotation, just 715 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: to say that out. Well, we'll get that, we'll probably 716 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the podcast. But Schwellenbach is the 717 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: currently probable starter for Tuesday, So that's your really their 718 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: fifth starter at the moment, and their sixth starter is 719 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: this spot if they kind of do this, so it's 720 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: up in the air. No one should be surprised if 721 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: it's Elder or Wine ins. I would say, if it's 722 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: not one of those two guys, I'll be surprised, and 723 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: we will see if they even use that starter spot. 724 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: And the Braves do have a day off this week 725 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: on Thursday, so maybe maybe that will impact how they 726 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: handle the rotation. It is very much it feels like 727 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: day by day or the rotation, especially given the age 728 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: and the workload stuff. 729 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: But who knows. 730 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: At some point Bryce Elder is going to find himself 731 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: back in Atlanta. It might be this week, it might 732 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: be in a couple of weeks, it might be next month. 733 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: But again, it is so obvious the Braves are trying 734 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: to limit innings when they can for their starters, which 735 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: is something that I think everybody should be in favor of, 736 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: because if there's one thing the Braves have not had 737 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: the last two postseasons, the rotation has not been healthy 738 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: in back to back years. And I know injuries are 739 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: impossible to prepare for and all of that, but I mean, 740 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: the Braves have to do what they can to have 741 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 2: Ronaldo Lopez, Chris Slee, and Max Freed healthy come October. 742 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: Whatever they can do, and if that means that Bryce 743 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: Elder goes out there and just pitches, okay, a couple 744 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: of times in an effort to get those guys an 745 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: extra day or two of rest. 746 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: Then so be it. Maybe it's not the. 747 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: Sexiest start that you're ever going to see, but we've 748 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: also seen that Elder has been successful at times in 749 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: the majors. 750 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely. And by the way, this might be a 751 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: throwback a long episode of the podcast, as I sort 752 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: of checked the time set of timestamp on the show. Anyway, 753 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: speaking it up a little bit here, Scott. The Braves 754 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: did option ray Kerr to the Miners on Sunday and 755 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: called up. I think is a player that's already a 756 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: fan favorite after one day. Grant Holmes a twenty eight 757 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: year old right hander who threw three scrorel with sendings 758 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: in his major league debut. Yes, major league debut for 759 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: a twenty eight year old. He was a first round 760 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: pick ten years ago. And for anybody that didn't see this, 761 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: Grant Holmes has a phenomenal head of hair. 762 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: I gotta say, yeah, that is a beautiful flow of lettuce. 763 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: You know, he looks like Kenny Powers from Eastbound to down. 764 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: He sure does, even throws like him a little bit. Really, 765 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I'm such a sucker for guys who 766 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: stick it out in the minor leagues for a decade 767 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: and ride those bus those bus trips across the country 768 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: and stay in the rinky dank hotels and make not 769 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: a lot of money just to get that one chance 770 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 2: at the major leagues. So for Holmes to get it today, 771 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: three scoreless innings in front of his family really cool. 772 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: And hey, he's got a live fastball. Tampa's hitters could 773 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: not do anything against it. It feels like he's gonna 774 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: get a real chance to stick. Holmes was actually starting 775 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 2: a bit for Gwinett, so he has the ability to 776 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: go multiple innings, which is not something this bullpen really 777 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: has right now. Potentially could even be like an opener 778 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 2: at some point if the Braves wanted to do that 779 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: with the bullpen. So very very happy for him. I 780 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: am sure he is elated to finally get his chance. 781 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: Good for him. 782 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: And let's hope the grant sticks and has a nice 783 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: year because he deserves it. Again, Man, a decade in 784 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: the minor leagues that has to be a lot of 785 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: just kind of laying in bed late at night and 786 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 2: just kind of thinking about your life, because a lot 787 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 2: of players bail far before you hit your ten years 788 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: and the miners, and good for him. It really was 789 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: an impressive debut for. 790 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: Sure, and the minor league guys that we trust, we're 791 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: talking about it today and like he's looked good in Gwinett, 792 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: Like it's not just a and it's obviously it is 793 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: a great story. But I think he might be major 794 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: league talent. He was first round pick a long time ago. 795 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: We will see how this goes. And you know, unfortunately 796 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: you could say he threw three innings today, that kind 797 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 1: of makes him maybe a candidate to not be around 798 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: that long because he can't pitch probably tomorrow, et cetera. 799 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: That's kind of tough. But yeah, to your point about 800 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: going multiple innings, that is a valuable skill set, especially 801 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: if things get off the rails at times or you 802 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: get a short start, et cetera. And really just a 803 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: great story and something that should have been I mean, 804 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: it would have been nice to get a win today, 805 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: But he did his part for sure, Like he kept 806 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: it right there, like the Braves had a chance to 807 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: win this game today because he kept it at six two, 808 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: like for as long as he did three innings and 809 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: a big spot there was a lot of fun and 810 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: fantastic story to be sure. Briefly, do you want to 811 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: just discuss Ryce Iglesias, because I think people are pretty 812 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: angsty about him right now. It was a home run 813 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: that he allowed that kind of lost them the game today. 814 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: If you watch the game or even watch the stack cast, 815 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: it was a really good pitch. It was nowhere near 816 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: the zone. It was below the zone. Like harve me 817 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: to get pretty mad about that. And he's still been 818 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: pretty good this season, both the season and also recently. 819 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: I think he had like a one era and his 820 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: past nur ten games four today still a sub three 821 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: er for the season. Did you see any of that today? 822 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: Like people were kind of mad about that. I mean, 823 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: I guess it's just normal closer stuff, but I saw 824 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: that he's not a closer. It's like, well, actually he 825 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: has been a closer for a very long time, and 826 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: a very very good one. 827 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has, you know, the lack of strikeouts. It's funny. 828 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: Before today's game, when we kind of laid out the 829 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: podcast outline, we were going to talk about Rice El 830 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: and the fact that he has not struck anybody out 831 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 2: this season. 832 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: Way down his strikeouts were way. 833 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: Down compared to his career norms, which has been a. 834 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: Very good career. 835 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 2: And of course, even though we gave up the homer 836 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 2: on Sunday, he struck out three hitters. 837 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: Sure, it's like Ryce. 838 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: El sees our Google doc with all of our notes. 839 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 2: I am not necessarily concerned. I do want to see 840 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 2: the strikeouts come back up. Anytime you can strike guys 841 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: out in the ninth inning, it is only going to 842 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 2: help things to remove the flukiness of a couple of 843 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: soft singles or giving up a home run. On even 844 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 2: a good pitch, you give up a home run. I'm 845 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: not really concerned about Rice El. I honestly hadn't even 846 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: noticed the strikeouts were down so much. And sure, I mean, 847 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: is he prime Mariano Rivera or prime Craig Kimberrel. No, 848 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 2: But he's been fine enough for me. And anytime a 849 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: closure gives one up, especially with all of the emotional 850 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: highs of Riley's home run and then like five minutes 851 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: later he gives up the homer and it was just 852 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: kind of a wamp womp. But you know, I think 853 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 2: for Rice L he's a veteran, the velocity is still fine. 854 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm not really concerned. We'll just have to keep an 855 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: eye on him and hopefully those strikeouts tick back up, 856 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: because that's such a weapon for closers. You know, I'm 857 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: a fan of talking about sample size as the thing 858 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 2: that matters, and with relievers it's even more pronounced. The 859 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 2: samples are just tiny on even like full season samples 860 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: for relievers are very small. But yeah, that's I'm attributing 861 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: this mostly annoyed. I did a little bit of a 862 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: deep dive, like you said, were already preparing for this. 863 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: His whip writes down, which is kind of what you 864 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: would look at as to why he's strikeouts. But he 865 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: is currently a ninety ninth percentile barrow right aloud, So 866 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 2: like no one's at the ball har on him. He's, 867 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: like you mentioned, his velocity is almost exactly as sam 868 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 2: as the lost last year. I'm not concerned, just one 869 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: of the least flag it because you don't like to 870 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 2: your point, you have to strike guys out eventually, But 871 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: I'm not concerned. All right, last thing before we get 872 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: out of here, a quick Michael Harris check in. 873 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: Obviously we talked about it on the feeds. If you 874 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: want more of the reaction from Steven and shall On, 875 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: et cetera. That is available for you. But we now 876 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: know always as of today, it's a grade two hamstring 877 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: strain for Michael Harris. There is no official timetable. The 878 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: Braves don't often give time tables. But if you look 879 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: around as I did today, I don't know if you did, 880 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: I did some googling, it would be a shock to 881 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: me and I think everyone if it was less than 882 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: a month for Michael Harris. It might be two months, 883 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: it might be longer. We don't really know. It's all 884 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: a guess, but Grade two is not what you wanted 885 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: to see for sure. Process wise, they were able to 886 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: get out along the roster because Strider I was not 887 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: on the sixt to day yet that happened today, but 888 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: not even I mean, of course it's your reaction of 889 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: the grade too, but even beyond that, we you gotta 890 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: talk about the state of the outfield, because captain obvious here, Scott, 891 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: the outfield situation is not what anybody wanted it to be. 892 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: And right now it is like looking like twenty twenty 893 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: one free traits, like it's pretty dark out there in 894 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: the outfield. Yes it is, and. 895 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 2: Man, you look at the outfield right now. And if 896 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: you would have told me the outfield was going to 897 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: be this in mid June coming into the season, I mean, 898 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: it would be hard to even get to this point right, 899 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: like to connect the dots. It's like, well, wait, where 900 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 2: are the outfielders who are like superstars? Where's the MVP, 901 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: where's the Gold Glove winner? 902 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 3: You know? 903 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 2: For Harris, it sounds like one to two months is 904 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: going to be the timeline. He of course is a 905 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: young guy. He's athletic, so let's hope it's on the 906 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: shorter end of that. But at the very least, the 907 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: Braves have to find three outfielders to play every single 908 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: night until Michael comes back. And man, I mean keil 909 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: Nick is playing better, which is encouraging. Adam Duval has 910 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 2: a negative forty the negative forty WRC plus against right 911 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: handed pitching this season. 912 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: Okay, Scott, I've to cut you off now. I was 913 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: waiting for this. I do not prap you for this. 914 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: We should at least say out loud. And the number 915 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: is hilariously bad. Adam Duvall is actually not not a 916 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: historic platoon split guy. Adam Duval actually has been pretty 917 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: good against Riots in his career like he's not. I 918 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: think people think of him as a slugger, and sluggers 919 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: often have big platoon splits. He usually doesn't. But man, 920 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: uh sample size, maybe I don't even know. I'm I'm 921 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: not trying. I'm not trying to wave it away, but man, 922 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: it's really, really, really bad. It's ridis and you have 923 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: to hope that it's honestly. Devaal's kind of always been 924 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: this super streaky guy, so maybe that's just maybe it's 925 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: just noise or mostly noise. But I laughed when I 926 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: saw your notiviz. The RCI plus gets ridies. It's in 927 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: the negatives and not just. 928 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 2: By little yeah, I mean below one hundred batting average. 929 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: His ops is below two hundred. Again, in ops below 930 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: two hundred against Fridays, he is mashing lefties, which is encouraging, 931 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 2: of course batting from the right side. I mean, there's 932 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: some value in that, but clearly at age thirty five, 933 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: I mean, Adam Duval has some limitations. We talked about 934 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 2: Kelnick Ramon Loriano is interesting. Once upon a time he 935 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 2: was really good with the Oakland A's, but he got 936 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: popped for peds and was suspended and hasn't been quite 937 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: as good since he was cut by the Cleveland Guardians 938 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. Brian Anderson is around. He similarly, 939 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 2: once upon a time, was quite good with the Marlins, 940 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 2: but has not been that player for a few years. 941 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 2: JP Martinez is like the epitome of like a fifth outfielder. 942 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 2: You also have Forest Wall and Gwinnett, who is in 943 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: his mid twenties. I mean, maybe he could bring a 944 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: little bit of spark with his on base and his steed. 945 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 2: He can't hit man, Yeah, he's never hit twenty six 946 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: years old in the minors. Not impossible, but if you 947 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 2: hit your mid twenties in the minor leagues, the reality 948 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: is a hitter is you're probably not going to make 949 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 2: a great impact. So we're gonna see they're very much 950 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 2: gonna have to piece it together, and I mean it 951 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 2: feels inevitable now even if it was leaning this way 952 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: before Harris's injury. Alexanthopolis has to go get an impact 953 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 2: outfielder at the deadline. Maybe maybe not a superstar that 954 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: or may not even be available, but he has to 955 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 2: get somebody, preferably who could platoon with Duval or even 956 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: spell Kelnick because I mean, again, you know Akuoni has 957 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 2: done for the year. Let's say that Harris comes back 958 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: in six weeks. I mean, what if there's another injury, Brad, 959 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: I mean, then we're getting into scary hours. 960 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: Well that's yeah, that's where we have to get to here, 961 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: because you know, there's nothing to say that you couldn't 962 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: get an injury now while Harris is already out and 963 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: it is it is pretty dire. You know, again, Harris 964 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: will be back eventually, like it might be a while, 965 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: but it isn't the season ending. Like you're gonna get 966 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: Michael Harris back and he's gonna be your center fielder 967 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 1: when he comes back. But you know, just the sheer 968 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: you gave the names just to say it out loud, 969 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: the five guys in the on the roster right now, 970 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: on the active roster Kellen nic Duvall, Loreano, Bran Anderson, 971 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: and Jap Martinez. That is not a outfielder on a contender, 972 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: outfit on a contender. 973 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 3: It's just not. 974 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: So everyone knows that. Of course, the extremely obvious thing 975 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: to say is that in twenty twenty one it was 976 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: maybe even worse than this because of injuries and Alex 977 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: went out in the span of a week and got 978 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who were not huge gits, but 979 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: starting caliber or at least platoon caliber outfielders. They're talking 980 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: about Solaire and Jock and all that. All that it 981 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: worked out beautifully, Eddie Rosario. Obviously, Alex batted one million 982 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: on the transactions. You can't always bank on that. They 983 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: don't have to get three guys like they did at 984 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: that time, but they do probably have to get somebody else, 985 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: especially because look, you know, we just mentioned how good 986 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: kellennickspan recently, and I think that realistically Kunnick's been as 987 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: good or better than I would have hoped to this point. 988 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: If he levels off, or if Duval just hits the 989 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: wall where he's you know, he's in his mid thirties. 990 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: What if he's just not pretty good like he's always 991 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: been streaky. We love aout him to all on this podcast. 992 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: Maybe he's just not sing guy anymore. And then you 993 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: get into like, yeah, Loreano was good five years ago 994 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: in Oakland. I don't know if you can bank on that. 995 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: So not trying to paint a two diar of picture, 996 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: but I do think that they're gonna need somebody else 997 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: and they don't appear willing or eager at all to 998 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: play Marcel in left field, or they already would do that. Like, 999 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 1: we've reached the point where if Marcell was an outfield option, 1000 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: they would have been using him probably this weekend in 1001 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: the downfield. I have to guess. 1002 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 2: I think that ship has definitely sailed. 1003 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1004 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 2: I mean, and as we've longtime listeners know, it's always 1005 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: a talking point when we get closer to the trade deadline. 1006 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: But again, man, there are no exceptions to the trade 1007 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 2: deadline anymore. 1008 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: After July thirty first. 1009 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 2: There used to be the waiver period where you could 1010 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,720 Speaker 2: sneak players through and get some trade done in August. 1011 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 2: That's gone with So your roster at four pm Eastern 1012 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 2: Time on July thirty first, or whatever day the deadline 1013 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 2: is this year, I believe it's the thirty first that 1014 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: is your roster through the playoffs. It's not only do 1015 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,959 Speaker 2: the Braves have to navigate the next couple of months 1016 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 2: without Harris, but if someone gets hurt on August first 1017 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 2: in the outfield, the Braves are screwed. I mean, then 1018 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 2: you're talking about Ramon Loriano starting a playoff game or 1019 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 2: Forrest Wall starting a playoff game. I mean that that 1020 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 2: is not acceptable, and I think Alex Entthopolis would be 1021 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 2: the first one to tell you this. It's going to 1022 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 2: be a very interesting next six weeks or so. A 1023 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 2: navigating the outfield without Harris and b seeing what Alex 1024 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 2: does to add to this outfield that very much needs 1025 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: an influx of talent. 1026 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were very positive on the show and we 1027 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: still are on the whole here. But given all the injuries, 1028 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: you lay them out here in our document just to 1029 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: give you the credit for that, But Strider, Racunya, Ozzy 1030 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: miss time, Ronnie miss time, Murkhy miss time, Piers Johnson 1031 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: miss time, mentor still Paris is out like it has 1032 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: been worse than you would expect it to be for 1033 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 1: any team. The Braves have had below average in Drea 1034 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: locks so far, even if you know a factoring in. 1035 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: Ronald alone is a big loss for anybody as the 1036 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: best player in baseball in a lot of ways. But 1037 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: some work to be done for Anthopolis. You know, he 1038 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: didn't shy away from that and his comments to the 1039 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: media this week. He's not gonna come out and say 1040 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: we're going to do this, this, and this, because he's 1041 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: not that kind of guy. But it will officially surprise 1042 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: me and I know it will surprise you if they 1043 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: do not go get an outfielder of some acclaim between 1044 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: now and the deadline, which is six weeks away. 1045 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it is going to very much be Alexanthopolis's time 1046 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 2: to make some moves, and I think that's something that 1047 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 2: Alex has. He has earned the trust of the fan base. 1048 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like a fanboy or I'm 1049 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 2: just constantly beating the drum for Alex and Thoppolis, but 1050 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 2: he has shown that through his five or six years 1051 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 2: now in Atlanta, he has generally hit on more things 1052 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 2: than he is. Not nobody's perfect. He's not going to 1053 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 2: be right on every single deal, but he's going to 1054 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 2: have to face the music here and maybe overpay at 1055 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 2: a track. I know that's something he probably would never 1056 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 2: want to do, but he might have to push a 1057 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 2: few chips in to try to give this team a chance. 1058 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 2: And I think we do have the benefit of having 1059 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 2: six weeks before trade deadline hits, so you can really 1060 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 2: evaluate and see what is Jared Kelnick like a month 1061 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 2: from now, does Adam Duval start to hit right handed pitching, 1062 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 2: or is he this automatic out, what is the shortstop situation? 1063 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 2: Like Orlando Arcia has been terrible for the last month 1064 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 2: and a half, one of the worst position players in 1065 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 2: the game. You go on and on down the list, injuries, whatever. 1066 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: It might be. 1067 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: So it's going to be a big next month and 1068 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 2: a half of evaluation for Alex in the front office 1069 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 2: because clearly this team still has the potential to have 1070 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 2: a deep run in October, but with all of the injuries, 1071 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 2: it is becoming more and more apparent they are going 1072 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 2: to need a couple of impact level editions if in 1073 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 2: my eyes anyway, if they're going to be a serious 1074 00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 2: World Series can. 1075 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, just to back you up so people don't think 1076 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: that you were just making stuff out of whole cloth 1077 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: about Orlando Arcia. Actually, this is from our our friend 1078 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: Steven Tolbert, our co host, who just tweeted this about 1079 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: ten minutes ago. Arcia, in the last two months or so, 1080 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: so it's April nineteenth, has is literally dead last in 1081 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: all of baseball among qualified position players at the plate. 1082 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: He's a thirty six dou RC plus in the last 1083 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,800 Speaker 1: two months. So you were not wrong about that, and 1084 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: you weren't exaggerating about that. Hopefully that will balance out 1085 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: in the near future. Okay, Scott, before we get out 1086 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: of here, a brief look ahead at what's to come. 1087 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: We'll kind of save the weekend preview because it's coming 1088 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: up with the big series against the Yankees. That's gonna 1089 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: be a showdown. And the Yankees are quite good this year. 1090 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: But before that three at home against Detroit, Detroit is 1091 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: basically the epitome of a five hundred team. So far 1092 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: this year they look like that. And the projections in 1093 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: the preseason over unders in the run differential, they are mid, 1094 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: but not in a bad way. They're just okay, And 1095 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: it's Freed, It's Schwellenbach and it's Lopez as the probables 1096 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 1: so far for the Braves. As of Sundy evening, I 1097 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: don't know about you. I'm looking forward to weds Get 1098 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: Wednesday's game. It's of course the Old Businessman Special, So Scott, 1099 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: it's a nine to twenty am start for you, but 1100 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,240 Speaker 1: it's a fantastic pitching matchup on Wednesday. 1101 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 2: It is Ronaldo Lopez, who I believe leads all of 1102 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: baseball in era unless something changed, that is correct. 1103 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: One point six to nine, very nice. 1104 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 2: Nice and against Derek Scooble for the Detroit Tigers, who 1105 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 2: might be the best pitcher in baseball. That is not 1106 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 2: a household name. He's nasty, he's a lefty. That's about 1107 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 2: as good as a pitching matchup as you're going to 1108 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 2: get in the middle of Wednesday afternoon. So you know, 1109 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 2: as you said, the Tigers not a bad team, not 1110 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 2: a good team. They can't really score, like the offense 1111 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 2: is pretty bad, but they found a way to be 1112 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 2: competitive in the American League Central, which has surprisingly been 1113 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 2: pretty good this year. They're very much a five hundred team. 1114 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 2: Tigers were actually above five hundred after last year's All 1115 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 2: Star Game team that kind of had some young players 1116 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 2: start to figure things out. So they're not bad. They're 1117 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 2: not a pushover. This is not the Tigers of a 1118 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 2: couple of years ago where they lost like one hundred 1119 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 2: and seven games, But a chance for the Braves, especially 1120 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 2: at home, and especially the way the lineup has woken up, 1121 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 2: to hopefully take advantage. Two out of three would be great. 1122 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 2: Of course a sweep would be awesome, but yeah, clearer 1123 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: schedules for Wednesday afternoon, because that is going to be 1124 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 2: a terrific pitching matchup. 1125 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: Or Wednesday morning. In one particular co host case on 1126 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: this podcast, I looked this up. The Tigers have a 1127 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: minus three frun differential this season, which is essentially zero. 1128 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: So that's what they are at this point. Okay, Scott, 1129 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: let us get out of here. Anything to plug at 1130 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: the end of this what I believe will be our 1131 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 1: longest episode of Hammer Territory yet. 1132 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 2: Not a ton to plug. Good to do a show 1133 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 2: with you, Brad where we were not like banging our 1134 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 2: heads against the wall because of the offense. It's been 1135 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 2: a frustrating couple of weeks, but some very encouraging signs 1136 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 2: this weekend for the Braves. Let's hope they continue it 1137 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 2: against the Tigers and then a big series against the 1138 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 2: Yankees next weekend. 1139 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: That'll be a lot of fun. 1140 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 2: Try to avoid Aaron Judge and One Soto hitting five 1141 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 2: hundred foot homers against this but overall hard to not 1142 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 2: be encouraged by the offense waking up this weekend and 1143 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,959 Speaker 2: let's hope it keeps you awing. 1144 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: Strongly agree and please, please please subscribe to the Hammer 1145 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 1: Territory podcast anywhere you might find podcasts that includes Apple, Spotify, Overcast. 1146 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: If you are able to leave five star ratings on 1147 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: your podcast player of choice. 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