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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.

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Speaker 2: Kathy and I are back to join you. We're so excited,

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Speaker 2: a don't we, Kat.

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Speaker 3: We are always so excited to get back together. Be

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Speaker 3: sure to check out our latest episode. We've been having

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Speaker 3: so much fun answering all your questions and chatting with

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Speaker 3: all of your Bachelor Nation.

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Speaker 1: Faves, every single one of you. But today we have

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Speaker 1: one hell of a guest baby. He is very special

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Speaker 1: to us and he was the first ever Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: Gary Turner, Hey, Gar.

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Speaker 4: Welcome, Hi you guys. It's so good to see you

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Speaker 4: and hear your voices again. Love you guys to pieces.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: It's been a minutegare So before we even get started,

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Speaker 1: I have a bone to pick with you, if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind, Can I do that right off the bat.

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Speaker 1: I was so excited that it was you coming, because

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Speaker 1: let me start with this.

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Speaker 2: Can you define friendship?

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Speaker 3: Oh boy?

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Speaker 4: The definition of friendship would be forgiving of someone who's

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Speaker 4: close to you, being tolerant of them, understanding them, staying

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Speaker 4: oh man, because now I'm gonnas myself.

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Speaker 2: No no.

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Speaker 1: So, when you were on TV the other day, I

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Speaker 1: was watching and I sent you a text, well spoken, Gary,

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Speaker 1: you didn't send a response.

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Speaker 2: Joan was there, she sent a response. Anybody else but my.

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Speaker 3: Friend Gary sasn't. Don't feel badly. He doesn't answer me either.

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Speaker 3: He's very big now, he's very popular. He must have

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Speaker 3: a lot of dates. We're gonna, we're gonna figure out

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Speaker 3: why Gary.

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Speaker 2: Are you not read your text? Looking? He's looking at

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Speaker 2: this poem? Did I get it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I missed it. It's not that I saw and ignore.

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Speaker 5: All Right, we're gonna we're we're gonna, we're gonna grow you.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna grow you later, Gary, But right now, we

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Speaker 5: have so much stuff we want to dive into. So

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Speaker 5: we're gonna get things started, and we want to know

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Speaker 5: what you've been up to. Just give us, give us

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Speaker 5: the day in the life of Gary Turner. What's going

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Speaker 5: on with you?

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Speaker 4: Well, So it was a nice winter. It was the

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Speaker 4: first time that i'd been able to get away from

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Speaker 4: the Midwest winters. And I went to Mexico for a

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Speaker 4: couple of months, so an awful lot of time. And

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Speaker 4: then of course when I'm down there, my dad passed away,

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Speaker 4: so I had to rush back and you know, take

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Speaker 4: care of a bunch of estate things for him, and

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Speaker 4: I've been dealing with my siblings and the things that

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Speaker 4: come along with dealing with the estate.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing the same just as my head.

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Speaker 4: Above water now on those things. And I'm back to

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Speaker 4: playing pick a ball three or four times a week,

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Speaker 4: and pretty much I'm really having a good time. I'm

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Speaker 4: enjoying myself.

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Speaker 3: So waite, how was Mexico? Where were you? Do you

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Speaker 3: speak Banish? Tell me about Mexico.

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Speaker 4: So I don't speak much Spanish, but the place I

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Speaker 4: was at was San Carlos, which is about halfway down

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Speaker 4: the Bahats on the west coast of the mainland, and

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Speaker 4: the nearest big city is there, Mascio. There's an airport there,

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Speaker 4: and the people there are so genuine and so kind

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Speaker 4: that if you try to communicate with them and use

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Speaker 4: a few Spanish words, they help you so much. There

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Speaker 4: was a little grocery story I went to all the time,

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Speaker 4: and there was a guy in the butcher shop. He

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Speaker 4: always wanted to practice his English with me, and I

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Speaker 4: always wanted to practice my Spanish. Oh god, it was nice,

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Speaker 4: it was scary.

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Speaker 3: All you need to know is don dasti Albano. Albano.

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Speaker 3: Then you just need to say, maserve beer or you know, gusto,

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Speaker 3: uh me, gusta mucho, vino tinto. I love red wine.

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Speaker 3: I mean, any of those things will get you where

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Speaker 4: Just no bus.

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Speaker 2: What made you go to Mexico?

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Speaker 4: Gear, Well, so I have a cousin who has a

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Speaker 4: sailboat there, and so she had the boat, I rented

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Speaker 4: a condo. We shared, uh, quite a bit of time.

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Speaker 4: You know, we'd go to meals together. She was a

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Speaker 4: fairly accomplished mountain climber, and so I had a climbing partner.

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Speaker 4: I had a yeah, yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 4: So it turned out to be a pretty good combination

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Speaker 4: for the two of us.

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Speaker 3: So your daughters came down for a short time. Angie

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Speaker 3: and Jenny came down for a bed.

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Speaker 4: They did for the last five days.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 1: They came all they got from the whole winter. You

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Speaker 1: only had the girls for five days.

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Speaker 4: They have jobs. I do not. I have no place

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Speaker 4: I got to be.

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Speaker 3: All right, So you're back. You had a good time

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Speaker 3: in Mexico. We saw you at AFR. How was that

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Speaker 3: getting back and seeing Joan and Chalk and you know everybody.

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Speaker 3: How did that gel must have been a little surreal.

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Speaker 4: Well, I tell you what, I really liked it because

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Speaker 4: the Friday morning breakfast I got to sit with Joan

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Speaker 4: for quite a while and we compared notes. Then Chalk

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Speaker 4: shows up, Clayton shows up, so we're all chitty chatting.

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Speaker 4: And then that night the same group plus Leslie sat

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Speaker 4: down for you know, a couple of drinks. And that

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Speaker 4: was a ball. Man. You just hear in everyone's different

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Speaker 4: perspective on what has happened and what's good, what's not

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Speaker 4: working out right, and so forth. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's no hard feelings.

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Speaker 4: I mean, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Leslie looked great, didn't she She did?

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Speaker 4: She did.

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Speaker 3: I swear that girl gets younger every every time I

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Speaker 3: say her. It's like she looks younger. She's living the

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Speaker 3: good life. That's all I got to say.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But was it weird though? To be back there,

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Speaker 3: and you know, because you were the lead, you know,

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Speaker 3: was it weird or not?

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say weird. I was. I was thankful to

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Speaker 4: be there after a long hiatus, Uh, to get the

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Speaker 4: I was. I was really thrilled with that, genuinely from

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Speaker 4: my heart. I loved it.

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Speaker 3: All right, So are you dating anyone now? Gary? What's

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Speaker 3: going on anyone new in your life?

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Speaker 4: There is there, there is something going on. It's a

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Speaker 4: little early to talk about, I think. So that's exciting.

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Speaker 4: That is exciting, And you can, uh, maybe get back

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Speaker 4: to me in a month or so and we'll talk

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Speaker 4: about I'm.

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Speaker 2: Calling your ass again.

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Speaker 3: I'm calling You can call him, but he doesn't answer

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Speaker 3: or return calls, so you're screwed.

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Speaker 2: You don't respond the messages. We're gonna we're gonna talk

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gary, is she local? I mean, just can we just?

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Speaker 3: Is she local?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And I have a question, how did you meet?

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Speaker 4: Tell you that yet?

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Speaker 2: Was it tender?

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Speaker 4: No? I don't even know what.

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Speaker 3: I bet it was on a pickleball court.

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Speaker 4: No, it's a story, but it goes along with the

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Speaker 4: story of you know, how it's happened, how I feel

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Speaker 4: about it. But mostly I want to make sure that

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Speaker 4: it's as solid as it feels.

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Speaker 2: Because you talk about it, and then I will.

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Speaker 4: Give you a really nice story.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So, Kathy, if it's not how he thinks

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Speaker 1: it's going then he'll be on paradise.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, there you go, Susan, when you have

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Speaker 3: a PhD in logic here, I'm just paying attention.

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Speaker 2: I see that sometime.

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Speaker 3: So so well, certainly, Gary, we're happy for you if

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Speaker 3: I mean, of course, and seriously we hope that whoever

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Speaker 3: she is, that you are happy that you found love.

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Speaker 3: You know, Susan and Kat well you know strike wise

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Speaker 3: person's out there for.

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Speaker 4: She won't let it go, Susan.

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Speaker 3: She just never wanted the talk about. All right, so Gary,

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Speaker 3: you but you are still in Indiana, right, that's where

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Speaker 3: you are now? Yeah, still same house, same everything's good,

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Speaker 3: and your health is good. We have to you know

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Speaker 3: your health is good.

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Speaker 4: It is you know. The The whole point is, as

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Speaker 4: long as I don't have symptoms, I don't have to

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Speaker 4: talk about treatments yet, and every six what tests I

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Speaker 4: you know that one test is going to be way

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Speaker 4: out of whack and get more out of whack as

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Speaker 4: time goes by. But quite honestly, I feel great. I

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Speaker 4: am enjoying life right now tremendously.

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Speaker 3: And I told you Gary, but I'll bachination I have.

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Speaker 3: The kind of cancer you have is very rare. It

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Speaker 3: strikes one in a million men. And believe it or not,

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Speaker 3: I dated a guy who uh got your same diagnosis,

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Speaker 3: I know, right, I know too, and I know two

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Speaker 3: guys and whatever. But he is fine. Just to let

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Speaker 3: you know, he's he went through the treatment. He waited

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Speaker 3: the treatment and he's fine. And the doctors have said.

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Speaker 3: Something else is you know you're gonna get hit by

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Speaker 3: a bus and die before this cancer gets you. So

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Speaker 3: bats our nation, Gary Turner is around for the long haul, Susan.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna return your message. Leave him alone, the poor guy.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we got to get into our question of

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Speaker 3: the day. We're gonna we're gonna play. So we're gonna

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Speaker 3: we have a question of the day, Gary, and we

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Speaker 3: want you to wait in on it. Okay, So to

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Speaker 3: the young listeners out there, of which there are many,

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Speaker 3: what advice did you give them when it comes to

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Speaker 3: facing big disappointments in life, like, you know, for example,

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Speaker 3: not getting their dream job or a relationship not working out,

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Speaker 3: those kinds of big things. What would your advice be?

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Speaker 4: You know, that's a really good question. I think that.

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Speaker 4: My first reaction is to tell them that part of

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Speaker 4: the learning process in life is dealing with disappointment. And

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Speaker 4: it's why I wanted to be in a team sport

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Speaker 4: my daughters. I wanted them to be in team sport

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Speaker 4: because when you're defeated, when you lose, you learn so

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Speaker 4: much more, I think, than when you win. So look

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Speaker 4: at those things as an opportunity to improve yourself or

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Speaker 4: or you know, find new additional things to add to

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Speaker 4: your resume, or whatever the case may be. But look

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Speaker 4: at failure as a positive building block or what you

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Speaker 4: do next.

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Speaker 2: Garry, when your daughters.

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Speaker 1: If your daughters had their first relationship not work out

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Speaker 1: and they had broken hearts, how did you Because you

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear that, you know, time heels, life

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Speaker 1: goes on. You'll remember this later. It'll help you grow

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Speaker 1: At that point you want to cry, don't.

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Speaker 2: Tell me that.

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Speaker 4: But the thing is isan you know Jenny, you know

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Speaker 4: my oldest daughter. You know her pretty well. And the

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Speaker 4: huh you by the way, yeah that's.

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Speaker 2: True is his carving copy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The first time she broke up with a serious boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: But with adult children, I don't think there's anything wrong

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Speaker 3: So what if what if your daughter had to yeah, really?

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Speaker 3: And she has his eyes, not just the color. My

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Speaker 3: daughter and my been had the same colors, but her

443
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Speaker 3: eyes are exactly my husband's. But the thing that and

444
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Speaker 3: she gets me every time my husband used to say

445
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Speaker 3: like he'd see something, he'd smile and you go wow

446
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Speaker 3: all the time it was wow. My my granddaughter does

447
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Speaker 3: it all the time. And I just know that, you know,

448
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Speaker 3: I just feel like that is nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, awesome, So.

450
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Speaker 3: I feel like, but you know, I agree with you, Gary,

451
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Speaker 3: it's great. It's great advice that just marking those times

452
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Speaker 3: and feeling it together and just knowing that, as you said, Susan,

453
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Speaker 3: we all grieve differently, but we all we all.

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Speaker 1: In the case of a Divorceee, you're still not going

455
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Speaker 1: to introduce your children until it's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You're not.

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Speaker 1: It's not replacing a father, but when you have adult children,

458
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Speaker 1: it's it's a whole different Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Picture, if you will. Okay, we have another one.

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Speaker 1: What advice do you have for those entering their golden

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Speaker 1: years that struggle with aging, whether it be mentally managing

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Speaker 1: their physical bodies, changing, et cetera. What challenges do you

463
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Speaker 1: think come with aging that you think people don't expect

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Speaker 1: or talk about.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, go gety go there are I mean,

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Speaker 3: I was shocked.

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Speaker 4: I think that one of the things that strikes me

468
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Speaker 4: is the challenge of getting good sleep. You get up

469
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Speaker 4: and down to the bathroom three or four times a night,

470
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Speaker 4: and that causes the next day to be just a

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Speaker 4: touch more groggy than it should be. The aches and

472
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Speaker 4: pains of staying physically fit. Okay, so you decide that

473
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Speaker 4: you don't want to go to the gym, or you

474
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Speaker 4: don't want to go to pick a ball, you've wasted away.

475
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Speaker 4: But when you do those things, you have to accept

476
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Speaker 4: the fact that you're going to hurt a lot of

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not Susan.

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Speaker 2: There's just like Atlas over there, she pumps on.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't nobody can compare to this one, but.

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Speaker 4: She's the exception.

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Speaker 3: No, wait a minute, wait is that great?

484
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Speaker 2: Things easier?

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Speaker 3: Wait, it's true, I've fed my share. Let me just say, Gary,

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Speaker 3: I think, uh that working out everything you just said, like,

487
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Speaker 3: sometimes things hurt. But you know what, if we're working

488
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Speaker 3: out and you're after the age of thirty, you start

489
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Speaker 3: losing muscle mass, right, So if we're maintaining or just

490
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Speaker 3: losing slightly. We're ahead of the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. You know, from another angle, a slightly

492
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Speaker 4: different thing is training your your mind to remain nimble. Yes,

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Speaker 4: this is a simple example. But I was gone to

494
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Speaker 4: Mexico for two months. I came back, go to shady

495
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Speaker 4: nook next door to say hi to friends, and there's

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Speaker 4: this momentary what was his name again? Because I haven't

497
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Speaker 4: seen it once, and it's like the memory just is

498
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Speaker 4: a little slower than it used to be. And I

499
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: really hate that.

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Speaker 2: I know, good friends, my friend mind's like a complete crawl.

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Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, Gary, you what you went to friends?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 4: You want to hold your friends tight, you want to

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Speaker 4: honor them, and you want to make sure that you

506
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Speaker 4: maintain those relationships, because I think that's important as you

507
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: get older and you just now and then forget people's names.

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Speaker 3: But let me just say I have two things to say.

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Speaker 3: Number one, who are you talking to right now? It's

510
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: a little mental challenge for you. Who are you talking to?

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Speaker 3: That That one wasn't again he's struggling there. And then

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Speaker 3: that other that other zip I would say, Gary, that

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Speaker 3: one of the things that you're your You haven't mentioned,

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Speaker 3: but you're sort of mentioning it is. As we get older,

515
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Speaker 3: some people fall into isolation, and that loneliness the isolation,

516
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: so it takes more work. As we get older, we

517
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: have to get out, make new friends, have activities, because

518
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: if we don't, the slide down is a whole lot faster.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shared with the world.

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Speaker 1: That was our message coming off of that show, the

522
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Speaker 1: first ever show. What we felt was it isn't over. Everybody,

523
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: life is not over. Keep moving, get out. It's full

524
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Speaker 1: of possibilities.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't get the guy what guy?

526
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Speaker 3: What guy? The Oh you mean the guy that gave

527
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Speaker 3: away gifts to everyone but me? Oh that guy garrig

528
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Speaker 3: You need my address to send me something because you

529
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Speaker 3: know I'll send.

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Speaker 4: It to you.

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Speaker 1: We love you, We love you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we really are. We pull your chain, I put

533
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: your chain, but we are genuinely happy for you.

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00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: Really does she realize she has to meet us?

535
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that comes I'm told.

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Speaker 4: I think it would be fun.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's been I can't wait a second. Gary,

538
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Speaker 3: you did, and I'm putting it out to vaccinations, so

539
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Speaker 3: you can't deny it. Susan, back me up. On this Gary,

540
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Speaker 3: did you or did you not say you were going

541
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Speaker 3: to have a bunch of us out to go out

542
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Speaker 3: on your boat?

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00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 6: Oh?

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00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: Yes he did past ten a.

545
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Speaker 4: Hund No, that is an open invitation.

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Speaker 3: We need, definitely, we need, we need, we need a

547
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: date and a time, Carrie, yep.

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Speaker 4: And everybody shows up and we party like crazy. That

549
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: would be a very popular event here man. Yes, it

550
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: would totally renewed the celebrity status. It an amp up

551
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: like you would not believe.

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Speaker 3: Listen, will you make me a drink? Because I made

553
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: you vodka Cranbery on the show? Will you make me

554
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: a drink?

555
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: I absolutely would? Okay, I of course absolutely would.

556
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Speaker 2: And I'll cook always.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my god, that'd be awesome. Well, you know.

558
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Speaker 2: You got to make them plain.

559
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Speaker 1: But Garret, how grateful are you to this day of

560
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Speaker 1: having this happen in your life, having that opportunity, I mean,

561
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Speaker 1: did it not change so many things?

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Speaker 4: I have expressed that gratitude many times, many different ways,

563
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Speaker 4: to many people. Granted, the whole experience wasn't all one

564
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: hundred percent great, but my personal development, the things that

565
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Speaker 4: I've been able to do, the fun I have being

566
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Speaker 4: around people, Oh god, it's it was amazing and it

567
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: still is amazing. I actually love going through Indianapolis Airport

568
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Speaker 4: because it's still like everybody knows who I am and

569
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Speaker 4: it's all fun.

570
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Speaker 1: And did you learn anything that you didn't know about yourself?

571
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Speaker 4: Yes? And that question is answered before and it's an

572
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Speaker 4: easy one. I didn't know I was so easy to

573
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Speaker 4: cry about stuff. I know.

574
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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you, wait a minute, you didn't know.

575
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Speaker 3: I'm being serious. You didn't know that you were a crier?

576
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Speaker 4: No, no, Kathy, it's like this. I think I got

577
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Speaker 4: much more empathetic when my wife passed away.

578
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Speaker 3: Okay, I can't believe you just said that, Gary. Why

579
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Speaker 3: Because I say that all the time. I've always cared

580
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Speaker 3: about people, and even though I have this big personality,

581
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Speaker 3: I don't like to hurt people's feelings. After my husband,

582
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Speaker 3: Daryl died, I am so even more empathetic. I've just

583
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Speaker 3: never heard anyone expressed it what I feel.

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Speaker 4: By a very clear watershed moment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And then with.

586
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Speaker 4: Passing month and year, I feel like it became more

587
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Speaker 4: that way. I genuinely felt like I cared for people

588
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Speaker 4: and their well being much much more. And so then

589
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Speaker 4: you know, the experience of of sending women home after

590
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Speaker 4: I tried so hard to form a bond with them

591
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Speaker 4: on the show.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, that's just one example. My wife and

593
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Speaker 7: I used to watch Chicago Med and Chicago Fire, and

594
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Speaker 7: there's always about relationships. I sit down and watch that

595
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Speaker 7: show now and I have to turn away because it gets.

596
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Speaker 1: Me, okay, think about my wife, But I can't.

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Speaker 3: I honestly, you you got me on this one because

598
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Speaker 3: I've been pulling your chain all day and having fun

599
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: with you because you know I love you, but in

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00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: in the friendship friendship way. But I honestly, those are

601
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Speaker 3: the things I watch. I cannot a I can't watch

602
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Speaker 3: anything violent just because of my husband's death. But anything

603
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Speaker 3: that I watched I used to make fun, in good

604
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Speaker 3: fun of my husband, who cried and everything. He would

605
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Speaker 3: cry at sappy movies and I say, what is wrong

606
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Speaker 3: with you? It's Collywood, It's not for I mean, I

607
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: just we used to laugh about it. From the day

608
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Speaker 3: he's died, I am a crier that I never used

609
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Speaker 3: to be, and Susan always saying me, did you cry?

610
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Speaker 3: I just don't announce it. But I'm so much more

611
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Speaker 3: of a crier now than I ever was, it's.

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Speaker 1: In touch with your emotions. Now I cry over Hallmark

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Speaker 1: the Clydesdale.

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Speaker 3: Come, Susan, you cry over changing the TV channel. Let's

615
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Speaker 3: just you, guys.

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Speaker 2: You both mentioned something that I heard.

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Speaker 1: You have more empathy than you ever had. I, however,

618
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: was cursed at birth, and I have so much empathy.

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Speaker 1: I would love to give some away because I take

620
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Speaker 1: it home with it. I could never be a nurse,

621
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, when taking care of people.

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Speaker 1: I'd bring that home. But and I love that you

623
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Speaker 1: both feel that, and all people in the world should

624
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Speaker 1: recognize that quality that they do have within them, and

625
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Speaker 1: it would be a better place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.

627
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Speaker 4: One of the nice things I realized about this empathy

628
00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: is it's not just about sorrow or suffering. But Kathy,

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Speaker 4: you can attest to this, Susan, I feel very empathetic

630
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: when someone succeeds nicely, they overcome a challenge, It's like

631
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 4: you want to celebrate for them and you feel so

632
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 4: good for them. And that's the other side of that coin. Yeah,

633
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: you get the joy of that.

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Speaker 3: I think I think you just I can't speak for everyone,

635
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: but I feel emotions. As you just said, it's not

636
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: just the savage, but the the you know, ambulance. I

637
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: When something good happens to people, I'm just like, oh,

638
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: it's like I want to celebrate exactly. You just want to.

639
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation fans like me because I did Teresa's hair

640
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: when she asked me the girl it this way, I go.

641
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: Do you know how long I've been doing hair?

642
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: That's not celebrating Susan.

643
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: It was she had the date. You're a boss, way

644
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: way too bad.

645
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: Will you do my hair? If I get a date?

646
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 4: Yes, you cauns go ahead and talk amongst yourself. So

647
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: I'll just sit over here in Indiana and wait.

648
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 3: You know, Gary calling Gary, listen, we need a date

649
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: and a time. I actually need a date and a date.

650
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: If you get it, I do, I get it, And

651
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: I can only help you out with half of that.

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00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: You know what, I'll put a want to add out

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Speaker 3: he has.

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Speaker 6: All.

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Speaker 2: This has been great for you.

656
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Speaker 1: We're so happy for you, and we're calling your daughters

657
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Speaker 1: assume as we're done, and no, no, I.

658
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Speaker 3: Got a month's speed done it. It's gonna do it

659
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Speaker 3: for me. This episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Gary, we really did enjoy having you. You gave

661
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: out some great advice. We knew you would. We are

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Speaker 3: both so happy. I'm speaking for Susan as well. We're

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Speaker 3: happy that you seemingly have found someone that, at least

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Speaker 3: right now, is making you happy and that makes us

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Speaker 3: both really happy.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, and I absolutely love talking to the two of you. Pleasure,

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Speaker 4: and this has been allmine at one time.

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Speaker 1: I know we eat chat severally, but when you get

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Speaker 1: two on one, you're no. We're always laughing, We're always smiling.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that like a Golden Oreo sandwich.

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Speaker 3: Gary's the middle, Susan, you are not always the centerpiece. Susan,

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Speaker 3: Jeez Lowie and Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: Nason and all our other fans.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us today, and make sure

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, if you enjoyed listening to Gary

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Speaker 3: today as we did in having this chat, that we've

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Speaker 3: got more coming. So make sure you submit your questions

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Speaker 3: guesses on who Gary's dating. We want to hear it.

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