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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I would love to talk playing route. What's your favorite?

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Speaker 1: The complete one? Nobody knows? Slants like.

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Speaker 4: You just did the thing, the one people like, what

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Speaker 4: are your favorite players? That men due to women when

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Speaker 4: they say they're like in a different way.

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Speaker 5: The direction of the route was a slant. You're right,

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Speaker 5: I know I'm wrong. I don't care what you want

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Speaker 5: to call it. Scream whatever he was slanting toward the

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm breaking out in hives, not being able

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Speaker 1: to Drake. You don't have a nickname, Drake, what's your

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite names?

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Speaker 1: And? As Mark Twain once said, cursing brings relief found

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Speaker 1: not even in prayer. My dearest resolution is to make

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Speaker 1: paula Patriots fans. You know we're going to offer me

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Speaker 1: a free gift. Make it worth my while. Nathan, Connecticut,

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Speaker 2: This is Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. For deals, buy a

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Speaker 1: Toyota dot Com. All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It

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Speaker 1: is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium, and the playoffs are here.

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Speaker 1: It is an exciting time to be here at Gillette

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Speaker 1: Stadium from four and thirteen to thirteen and four? Are

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Speaker 1: we interrupting your screen time?

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Speaker 4: Paul?

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Speaker 6: I was just looking to see if Stefan Diggs was

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Speaker 6: a screen or a slant. Sorry, I mean I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Mean to do that. Okay, the difference and energy, do

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Speaker 1: you but as I was saying, yes, playoffs can be

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Speaker 1: palpably felt here, Yeah, yes, it's intense. It's intense. I'm

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Speaker 1: not joking around. We're getting ready, I'm serious.

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Speaker 6: No, I do sons, you know, like the the whatever

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Speaker 6: you want to call the gap five years, six years

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Speaker 6: the middle, but hosting a playoff game for the first

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Speaker 6: time since nineteen you can sense it. There's a difference

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Speaker 6: in the There's not as much entitlement as we used

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Speaker 6: to have. You know that in the glory days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had no chance to take it.

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Speaker 3: For granted, they had like six guys out with COVID,

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Speaker 6: One I'm pretty sure remember the local media picked the

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't know how, but yeah, this is

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Speaker 3: definitely a different feel, and you could feel it after

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Speaker 3: the game on Sunday, that energy. Most of the players,

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Speaker 3: instantly on Sunday night, like it wasn't the normal. You know,

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Speaker 3: let's celebrate this one tonight. That's what I said the

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Speaker 3: opponent on Monday.

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Speaker 1: This was like check the box on the mic.

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Speaker 6: Was very happy they didn't they didn't cleanch the division

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Speaker 6: and you know, enjoy it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, like for that reason, I don't want to celebrating.

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Speaker 7: We got to celebrate and over with. Let's turn the

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Speaker 7: page to the playoffs and let's get focus so that

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Speaker 7: can be like the seven Patriots joyless, no, no, and

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Speaker 7: they were not that point.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting too that like a lot of the

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Speaker 1: They didn't even know they were playing the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Like guys were walking around asking us in the media,

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Speaker 1: We who are playing God?

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Speaker 3: And I just kept saying Chargers, Chargers, Chargers, Like, so

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Speaker 1: This is you can feel it. Well, it's it's Evan,

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Speaker 1: it's Paul, it's Deuce, it's me, it's Matt Nabooth.

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Speaker 6: And uh, but.

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Speaker 1: One of your guys agrees with me. Oh Joe Murray,

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Speaker 1: scary Patriots are being disrespected by the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so he says, I saw this. He actually thinks

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Speaker 6: that the Chargers dumped the game, yeah, on purpose?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that they could play the Patriots. I

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Speaker 3: This has been happening where if you're walked in locked

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Speaker 6: Like, did Philadelphia dumped the game so they could play

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: Did Houston try to dump the game so they couldn't

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Speaker 1: They won in a last second field goal.

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Speaker 6: But I'm going just think that Evan has this when

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Speaker 6: This is why I am not an advocate of expanding

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Speaker 6: I have no chance. So it's unfortunate because the Chargers

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Speaker 6: I'm not even thinking of. I mean, Buffalo won anyways,

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Speaker 1: You're probably right, but I'm going with Joe Murray.

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Speaker 6: I thought you were going with the spread. That's where

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Speaker 1: With the Well, the Spets gone up to three and

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Speaker 6: It was Mike, it was three and a half on

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Speaker 6: the postgame show, correct.

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Speaker 1: So what is it now? Three and a half? Not

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Speaker 6: It was three and a half when we did the

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Speaker 6: postgame show. That's the first time I looked was we

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Speaker 6: were doing the postgame show. Where did you look on DraftKings?

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Speaker 6: That's I don't know where he was looking. That's our

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Speaker 6: I don't know what you're smiling at. You should not

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just ignore, idiot. I don't even know. But what

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Speaker 1: The Patriots should take it to heart and show them

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Speaker 6: So I'm going to go with it. I'm going to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean I I look back, I think

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Speaker 6: Most memorable thing about the Chargers game.

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Speaker 1: Last year it tell me what did I have for

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Speaker 1: the other thing that should get Patriots fans all riled up.

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Speaker 1: And it's a good thing for five that our game

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Speaker 1: isn't on Fox. It's on NBC because Tom Brady slighted

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Speaker 1: our man, Drake Drake May May. Did you hear about this?

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Speaker 1: Tom Do you tell the story? So he was asked

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Speaker 1: he thinks you should go to Matthew Stafford that he's

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Speaker 1: Josh Oh Okay, I didn't have that. Not he's done

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Speaker 3: Right because he doesn't know Sean McVay. He's trying to

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Speaker 1: Well here's but I'm not really a fan. I mean,

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Speaker 6: According to reports that he wants to do what Brady does.

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Speaker 1: This is getting ridiculous. Your move, Goodell, Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: getting ridiculous. Forget about Goodell, your move network executives for

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Speaker 1: your own integrity. Now we know that they're at I know,

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Now, Brady hasn't gotten to the Patriots yet, he hasn't

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Speaker 1: done a Patriots game, but I wonder what He's got

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Speaker 6: He's don't really care about him doing a Patriots game.

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Speaker 6: I care about him doing a Raiders game.

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Speaker 1: Well too, that's any crap about the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Right, So now you're okay. Now Now I love Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: I love him as a person, as a Patriot. You know,

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Speaker 1: But he's also an owner.

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Speaker 6: That's what makes Brady in this thing with Ryan different. Matt.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: How many times was it just an exception for Brady

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Speaker 2: To me?

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Speaker 1: Makes it different? Who's next?

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Speaker 2: I got your pizza?

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Speaker 1: Call whatever games you want to call it.

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Speaker 3: Just like you're supposed to be a patriot, stop like

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Speaker 6: Is he over compensating not favoring.

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Speaker 1: Yet he's being subdued in his I don't know that

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Speaker 3: He's had opportunities as well to come call games here

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Speaker 1: We don't get the Fox A team.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that's his choice?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just telling you Foxwood make.

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Speaker 6: The choices the number one SEQ if you can avoid

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but his his his his preference, pference.

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Speaker 3: We've been like going on a you know, since really

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Speaker 6: It is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I want to believe what he said, that he's a

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he isn't, and I'm sure that he

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Speaker 1: It holds a lot of weight.

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Speaker 3: If Tom Brady puts his support behind Drake May for

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Speaker 3: met at like a skiers wort once in Montana, I

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Speaker 6: I go the opposite way on those, Like if if

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big shock.

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Speaker 1: When you work our own a team, that it makes

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Speaker 6: The base of it, Like this Matt Ryan thing is

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Speaker 1: It just smells to me. It reminds me a lot

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Speaker 1: It's like somebody it's like a CEO of Navidia being

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Speaker 6: If I knew with any of that meant, I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I just noticed when I was in my old job

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Speaker 1: But this doesn't mean that those people are going to say, so.

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Speaker 7: Why Matt Ryan, Like because he was pretty like he

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Speaker 1: What does he have the special side? Like Press, you know,

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Speaker 7: A name that they can roll out and say, Look,

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Speaker 7: it's the same reason the only guy he got us

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Speaker 1: Run Why Atlanta would do it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's the.

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Speaker 3: Same reason why like cam Neely runs the Bruins, Like,

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Speaker 1: It's that they know the city, they know the team,

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Speaker 3: Like and my fans know them, right, But I don't

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Speaker 6: I made the same thing yesterday, Matt. Matt Smith and

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Speaker 6: let's get the star quarterback and put him in charge

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Speaker 6: record of success. The record of success with these quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: heading up teams has been a disaster. The Raiders are

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Speaker 3: Right Why the Falcons already have like six guys in charge,

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Speaker 1: It's it's a mess.

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Speaker 3: But the stuff with Brady and the Raiders doesn't bother

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Speaker 1: Like if the.

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Speaker 6: Then you're going to be annoyed that he's doing games

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Speaker 6: and getting potentially Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think that information. I think that might change things.

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Speaker 3: But for now, that the Raiders are the worst, how bad.

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Speaker 1: I only brought up Brady in reference to the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and how yet another slight against us. You're building up

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Speaker 1: the disrespect card. Yes, I want I want that chip

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Speaker 1: Do you guys feel different this time around?

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Speaker 7: Though you guys had so many different playoff runs, like

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Speaker 7: it feels it's just maybe it's the missing the playoffs

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Speaker 7: in twenty one you didn't really feel like you really

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Speaker 1: Like you're part of You're part of the right, Like

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Speaker 1: like those years.

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Speaker 7: Where I was thinking of the Dolphins fans when I

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Speaker 7: I'm like, that's the worst. Like the last game of

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Speaker 7: You're freezing your butt off. The game means nothing.

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Speaker 2: Go back.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm not work.

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Speaker 7: That is true, Paul, that is the bonus, I guess.

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Speaker 7: But I just it feels renewed to me. And this

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Speaker 1: Said, I'm just gonna say.

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Speaker 7: But also not these like weight of expectations where when

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Speaker 7: like a lot of people I think that thought that was,

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Speaker 7: the tail end, like it's it's it's gonna be really

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Speaker 7: it's yeah, I want them to win and I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: I think that's a great point. That's what I'm glad

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Speaker 6: to go. There was so many years that, you know,

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Speaker 6: I just really didn't feel like there was any chance

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Speaker 6: this year under the old rule.

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Speaker 1: That's right, because they have two buys, but.

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Speaker 6: I just didn't feel like those teams had much of

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Speaker 1: Said, I like the days of the double bye.

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Speaker 6: But it's almost refreshing that you can legitimately look at

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Speaker 6: times to lose Sunday, which is basically what it would

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Speaker 6: have taken, you know, to have the twenty seventeen Patriots

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Speaker 6: kind of different and energize. It's a little bit they

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good field of teams. Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: great to be back in the mix.

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Speaker 7: We're back in the club. Like I felt that, like

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Speaker 1: You're you're one of these teams that you're.

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Speaker 7: Trying to hype up having a high round draft pick.

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Speaker 7: And now it's you're back in the mix. You're back

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Speaker 7: the playoffs, and you know you're back in that mix.

442
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Speaker 1: So I don't want to get ahead of ourselves. But

443
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Speaker 1: I was looking at you know, what could possibly happen,

444
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Speaker 1: and it is possible that we could have an AFC

445
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: championship here against the Bills, and I welcome that. Oh yeah,

446
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 1: I want that to happen because I want I want

447
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 1: to beat the Bills and just to say that two

448
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: out of three times and in the most important game

449
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 1: this year, we beat the We are truly now the

450
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 1: Kings of the East. To lose the game. If we

451
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 1: lose the game, then my silver lining is you're pissed off.

452
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 1: You realize that there's still work to do here, that

453
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: they still might have the edge we need to have

454
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Speaker 1: a productive offseason.

455
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Speaker 2: It would be a.

456
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Speaker 1: It would.

457
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Speaker 8: The Bills would have bragging rights, the fans would have

458
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 8: all the right to get back on us.

459
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Speaker 1: You know, there's still our daddy if it happens. In

460
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Speaker 1: the words of the great Patro Martinez, however, it gives

461
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Speaker 1: you that incentive like we still have work to do.

462
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Speaker 1: We have hope for the future, but we've got a

463
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Speaker 1: lot of work to do.

464
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Speaker 6: Would that not happen if they hosted Houston in the

465
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Speaker 6: AFC Championship game.

466
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Speaker 1: And lost, You mean, yeah, it would still. But but

467
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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the Bills, Like, oh, but if

468
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: we lost the Bills, then what that's what that's what.

469
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Speaker 1: You use it as incentive, you use it as motivation.

470
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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, would do that either way.

471
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Speaker 7: I would say that at the same time that this

472
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Speaker 7: feels like a precursor to me of what the playoffs

473
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Speaker 7: in the AFC are going to look like for the

474
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Speaker 7: foreseeable future, which is, you've got a bunch of good quarterbacks,

475
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Speaker 7: who's the healthiest team at the end of the season,

476
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Speaker 7: and who plays the best. It's not this power structure,

477
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Speaker 7: you know, where you have two or three quarterbacks kind

478
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Speaker 7: of dominating everything, and you know those are going to

479
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 7: be the teams in the AFC Championship every year. I

480
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 7: think the way this is all playing out right now

481
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Speaker 7: that Trevor Lawrence is going to be in the mix

482
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Speaker 7: every year, and Justin Herbert looks like he's going to

483
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Speaker 7: be in the mix every year.

484
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Speaker 1: About that, I mean, like Mahomes and Lamarin Burrow will

485
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: be back.

486
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Speaker 6: They're going to be back. Yeah, those guys Holmes will

487
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 6: I don't know about those guys will, but.

488
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Speaker 7: Do you think they just resume their place atop the

489
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Speaker 7: power structure and that's it, And Trevor Lawrence is going

490
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Speaker 7: to go back to another six eleven seasons.

491
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Speaker 6: But no, no, no, to you a point, I don't

492
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Speaker 6: think they're going to go from thirteen wins to six wins.

493
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Speaker 6: But I do think that Mahomes will be back and

494
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Speaker 6: they'll be that Kansas City is not done. I don't

495
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Speaker 6: really know what's going on in Baltimore. I don't know.

496
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 6: Like this stuff, I don't know intriguing to me.

497
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to be Lamar in Baltimore,

498
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: but Lamar will be in the AFC and he will

499
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Speaker 3: be heard from.

500
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Speaker 6: Now if he leaves Baltimore, how do you know he

501
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 6: stays in the AFC Because there's not as many anything

502
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 6: dominates the NFC. There's not as many.

503
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: NFC landing spots on good teams. So I don't know

504
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: for sure about that one.

505
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Speaker 6: But I think what you'd have to hope is your

506
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 6: guy is one of those guys that's with Mahomes and

507
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 6: Allen and May that's always in the AFC Championship game.

508
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 6: That's what I think is coming is Drake May is

509
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 6: going to be one of those guys that's going to

510
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Speaker 6: be in the mix for the AFC Championship every year.

511
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Speaker 7: I believe the window is not closing for these guys,

512
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 7: but that the gap is narrowing and that these other

513
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 7: teams are starting to surge. I mean, you can only

514
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 7: stay on top for so long. I think Kansas City

515
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 7: would back times. So I think Kansas City is going

516
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 7: to be back and go fourteen and three.

517
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Speaker 6: I have my doubts about one thing I find really

518
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Speaker 6: interesting about this particular season and how odd it has been.

519
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 6: So the Broncos won eleven in a row, the Patriots

520
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 6: won ten in a row, those Texans are currently on

521
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 6: a nine game winning streak, and the Jags are currently

522
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 6: on an eight game winning streak. That just kind of

523
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 6: tells me it's an anomaly, because I don't think that happens.

524
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Speaker 6: I don't think teams have those kinds of winning streaks

525
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 6: every year. Maybe one team does. But four teams to

526
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 6: have won eight or more in a row in the

527
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 6: same season tells me that there's a little bit of

528
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 6: a difference in the Baltimore's and the Cincinnatis and the

529
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Speaker 6: Kansas Cities that have allowed these teams to rip off

530
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Speaker 6: some wins teams are down.

531
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Speaker 7: Can I go back to one thing real quick? Lamar

532
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 7: not on the Rainis I sure? This is the first

533
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 7: I've heard this positive?

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

535
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's a possibility.

536
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: Not a big one, but possible. Yeah. Yeah.

537
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Speaker 3: It seems like the Harbaugh Lamar partnership is at a

538
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: impass I guess is that they figure it out. But

539
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: there's some stories about Lamar's focus, his you know, effort

540
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: behind the scenes playing, you know, doing the Kyler Murray

541
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: in a lot of video games, you know that sort

542
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: of thing. He lost a lot of weight, which was

543
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: strategic but then backfired because then he was hurt all year.

544
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: And like, you know, it just little things like that.

545
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: And you know, there's been some rumors connecting him maybe

546
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 3: to Vegas or to Miami, you.

547
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: Know, as potential landing spots. These are all just scuttle but.

548
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 6: It was probably going to go. But I think Evan's

549
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 6: stuff about Lamar Jackson just one.

550
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Speaker 1: It's one or the other. Could both?

551
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Speaker 6: I think I think both could go. I don't think

552
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 6: that both will go. I think Harbor might go. But

553
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 6: there was some questions about the future for Lamar in Baltimore.

554
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Speaker 6: I've been sort of all right, just kind of fall away.

555
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 6: I just think it's relevant for the playoff discussion that

556
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Speaker 6: we're talking about here.

557
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the game on Sunday for what it's worth. Uh,

558
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think it was what did I

559
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: say the score was going to be? I think they

560
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: went handily, or you're talking about the Dolphins game.

561
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't remember what your score was. I

562
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 6: was thirty three to six.

563
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: I was close this twenty eight seventeen. I wasn't close.

564
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 6: You were close close enough.

565
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Speaker 1: But I do like the way the Patriots handled that game.

566
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: They had the lull in the second quarter, but they

567
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: took care of business, and they go into the playoffs

568
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: with a lot of momentum. They go into the playoffs with,

569
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, a running game that I'm not saying that

570
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are saying the running game

571
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Speaker 1: is back. To me, it's still a little too inconsistent,

572
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: especially in short yard is Kevin Evan's got some status. Okay,

573
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: so we'll get into that. So I'm not all the

574
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: way there saying this is now a running team. No,

575
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Speaker 1: we're Drake May. We're going to go as far as

576
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Speaker 1: Drake May takes us. Uh, and as far as you know,

577
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: the defense, uh kind of gets his act together and

578
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: gets healthy. Uh that's going to be the key to

579
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: our success in the playoffs. But it was very, very

580
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: encouraging to see, you know, the whole last six or

581
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: seven games from Roman J. Stevenson. Trevian has really emerged

582
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: as a candidate for Rookie of the Year. That's really encouraging.

583
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Explosive plays, I mean in the run game. I think

584
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: that's huge, you know.

585
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 7: I then I'll let you talk about the EPA numbers

586
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 7: of their run game, which have been really solid before

587
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Speaker 7: I get into my next point.

588
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean, they're basically number one the last month or so,

589
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: they're number one in the league in every rushing stat

590
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 3: yards per carry, explosive run rate, EPA success rate, right

591
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: on down the line.

592
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Speaker 1: They're averaging how long I missed because it was last

593
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Speaker 1: month month.

594
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're six point one yards of carry like posts

595
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: by over the last year since the Buffalo game. Now

596
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: they face some bad run defenses, you know, Buffalo, Jets,

597
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: Dolphins not great run defenses, but they're running the ball

598
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: a lot better. And I agree with Fred that they're

599
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 3: Drake May offense and he's going to take them. But

600
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 3: you need balance, especially this time of year. You need

601
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: to be able to run the ball. You're not going

602
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: to be able to go through the playoffs, you know,

603
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: three four games now to a super Bowl and not

604
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: get into a game where it's a little bit of

605
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 3: a rock fight and you got to find a way

606
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 3: to run the.

607
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: Ball and move it, lean a little to fred and

608
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Uh So can they do that?

609
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: I don't know, But I think what we're seeing a

610
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: lot more of is, you know, they're lighting in the

611
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: box a little bit. They're putting those two high safeties

612
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: over the top because of Drake and the Patriots have

613
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: gashed them on the ground. And if that continues, that's

614
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: that's the styles win fights of the playoffs.

615
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 6: Sometimes those chaps Buffalo, But on this last month they've

616
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 6: had I don't know, at least a half dozen if

617
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 6: not more, just explosive runs. I'm not talking about fifteen.

618
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking you know, that's the whole point of the

619
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: They had running the ball, two.

620
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 6: Of them in this game, but he only had seven carries.

621
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Speaker 6: Two of them went for more than forty years. Can

622
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Speaker 6: you to me, it's a little like those defenses like

623
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 6: the Jacksonville d defense feasts on turnovers, which is great.

624
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 6: Who would say, like, well, we don't want to take

625
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 6: the ball away as a defense, except for what happens

626
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 6: when you don't. So can they run the ball to

627
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 6: Fred's point on third and one and the other team's

628
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 6: ready for you.

629
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Speaker 1: They don't have what Evan's talking.

630
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 6: About with a too high look and you know, trying

631
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 6: to take away the explosive plays from Drake May, but

632
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: they're ready to stop the run.

633
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: Can you move the pile and get a yard?

634
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 6: Can you get in the red zone like they did

635
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 6: on Sunday and.

636
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Push it in?

637
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 6: Then I will say run game.

638
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: That's just the best offenses are balanced like if you

639
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: if you can't.

640
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: And it's not about volume.

641
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: It's not about going into a game and saying we're

642
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: going to run it forty times. No, it's about this

643
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: is the chess match and if these this is how

644
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: teams are going to defend them. And they're going to

645
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: try to double digs, which they did a lot in

646
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: this game, and they're going to try to put the

647
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: safeties over the top to take away.

648
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: The deep ball.

649
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm with it, you know, And they're going to play

650
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: a lot of soft zone, which is what Miami did

651
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: and you know eighty percent of the game they played

652
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: in zone. If these are the buttons that everybody is

653
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: going to push, the counter punch is to run the ball.

654
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: And if you can run it, and maybe not at

655
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: a high volume, but you can run it for chunks,

656
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: then that can really help you balance out the offense.

657
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: And now they have to they change is the other way, like,

658
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 3: are we going to put another hat in the box?

659
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: Are we going to play more man like? How are

660
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: we going to combat that? And that opens up everything else.

661
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Speaker 6: I think that's why when we do a postgame show,

662
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Speaker 6: Mike does a segment where it's, you know, something to

663
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 6: build off of, and it's it's absolutely Remondre Stevenson's last

664
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 6: month of the season. You know that to me travels

665
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 6: into the into the playoffs. That is going to be

666
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 6: effective in good weather or bad. Obviously, in the back

667
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 6: of your mind you wonder about you worry about ball security,

668
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 6: but it's been a long time since that's been an issue.

669
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 6: He's been ridiculously productive. If that continues, all the stuff

670
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 6: that Evan's talking about is there for the offense, and

671
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 6: now you're talking about thirty eight points, forty two points. Sorry,

672
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 6: if they score in the mid mid thirties, they're not

673
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 6: going to lose. They're not going to lose to these teams.

674
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Speaker 6: And if they can get that kind of production, and

675
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 6: I think if you can run the ball like that,

676
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 6: you're going to have that kind of production, because Drake

677
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 6: has been so efficient that he only needs twenty twenty

678
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 6: two passes.

679
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: To have a productive get their play actions in this game,

680
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: they had the flea flicker and like you know, these

681
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: are the things that all happen off of having some

682
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: semblance of a running game. And if you get into

683
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: the playoffs and you get one dimensional and you're dropping

684
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: back forty forty five times in a game, you don't

685
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: want to play like that, especially not against these defense.

686
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: And context, to me in football means everything, especially when

687
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about these stats. The context. And I'll good

688
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: example the whole MVP race between Stafford and Drake Stafford.

689
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: You know, in terms as far as Paul and I,

690
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: Stafford has better stats, And a lot of people hold

691
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: the schedule against Drake may Well, he's played a weaker

692
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: schedule than Stafford. Ever, somebody on x I forget who

693
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: it was is one of the ballnoer stats. People said, yes,

694
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: he's had a week of schedule, but a lot of

695
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: the teams that he played May had good past defenses.

696
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: Even though their record wasn't good, their past defense was

697
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: good and and May still performed.

698
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 6: I don't know what that means, but I guess I'm

699
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 6: just confused as to like, so touchdowns, that's the only

700
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 6: thing that we based MVP off of, Like you can

701
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 6: base it off anything you want, because.

702
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Well, May has them be in every other category. So

703
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out.

704
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is, if you're a voter, you can

705
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 6: determine what you think is no no.

706
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Speaker 1: Defense, You've got an easy win. More yards, right, he

707
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: has more passing yards, doesn't have more total yards? Okay, Okay, Drake,

708
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: that's true. No, listen, I think Drake should be m

709
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: v P. And I'm making the article. A lot of

710
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: people held the schedule against Drake, but this this analyst,

711
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: uh you know again, content I said, a lot of

712
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: those had strong pass defense.

713
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 6: I just don't really understand what that means, and like

714
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 6: they're a bad team.

715
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 8: And May performed in those games when the running game

716
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 8: wasn't as good. As it is now.

717
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think I hear what you're saying. I

718
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: think that with the now we're kind of pivoting back

719
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: to the MVP thing. But I think with the MVP thing,

720
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: I do think that we're getting really lost in the

721
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: sauce with the strength of schedule thing, and we're like

722
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: kind of treating this like it's like college football, where

723
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: like some weeks you're going up against teams that are like,

724
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: you know, it's Alabama versus like, you know, Farris State

725
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: or something like that. Like Drake said, it's not We're

726
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: not playing Foxborough High School right like, so it is

727
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: still kind of it's still pro football like, and this

728
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: is still the NFL.

729
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of a lot of these.

730
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: Waitings that I'm seeing in terms of strength to schedule

731
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: is like really heavily discounting the Patriots' success because of

732
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: the schedule. And I'm like, at the end of the day,

733
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: these they are all still professional football players. Like, I

734
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: hear what you're saying that it is a factor, but

735
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: it seems like it's a big fact.

736
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Speaker 7: This is I'm just going to make a quick point

737
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 7: of that, and I totally agree, and I'm so sick

738
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 7: of this conversation.

739
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like, this is.

740
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Speaker 7: Historically easy schedule, So I think it's it's it's not

741
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 7: just like, well, they had an easy schedule, like by

742
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 7: the most metrics, this was a very, very standout easy

743
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 7: schedule in the history of easy schedules. So I get it,

744
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 7: it's the NFL. But at the same time, that's why

745
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 7: it comes up a lot. It is a historically easy

746
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Speaker 7: skit is.

747
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Speaker 6: And I'm not even talking about the schedule because I

748
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 6: agree with the way Evan just put that. And I've

749
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 6: said this a lot like that there is no homecoming game.

750
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Speaker 6: I mean, I know that they're really bad teams, but

751
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 6: they're all NFL.

752
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: That Jets games kind of No.

753
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Speaker 6: I know this one was too, you know, like they

754
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: all the starters didn't play from Miami too, you were

755
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 6: playing all backups. I get that where I think that

756
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 6: it kind of it's not necessarily how we played against

757
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 6: bad teams. I just I do think that you have

758
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 6: a luxury afforded when you only have to throw the

759
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 6: ball twenty times because the team's so bad that I'm

760
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 6: going to brack up these numbers. And I think that

761
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 6: kind of you know, how many games has he had

762
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 6: that he's thrown less. I wish, I wish I had

763
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 6: the number, But I feel like he's thrown fewer than

764
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 6: twenty five passes in the game, like ten times. Like

765
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 6: that helps those EPA numbers, That helps those yards per

766
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 6: attent numbers. When you're able to complete passes with a

767
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 6: small a small number, that's why you complete seventy two

768
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 6: percent or whatever he completed. And if you look, and

769
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 6: I actually did look this up, the all tie I

770
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 6: think I think Mays was fourth highest of all time

771
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 6: the completion rate completion percent in six okay, And I

772
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 6: looked at all the guys that finished ahead of them.

773
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 6: They're all similar in attempts, So which told me that's

774
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 6: the secret, Hush, you don't want to throw the ball

775
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 6: forty five times and expect to complete seventy three percent

776
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Speaker 6: of your passes.

777
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Speaker 1: I think the.

778
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: Biggest thing with the completion rate, if we want to

779
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: poke holes and that is that he runs. And he

780
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: did take a lot of sacks to start the year,

781
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: so like those are not.

782
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 6: Incompletion right right, like when it's right, that's That's kind

783
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 6: of what I'm getting at. So even if the team

784
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 6: is so bad that you're able to get the lead,

785
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 6: you know, against the Cleveland or a Tennessee or you

786
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 6: know these these weak in Atlanta, you know, these teams

787
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 6: that have quote good pass defenses.

788
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: They stink.

789
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 6: The team stinks, so you're able to get complete control

790
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 6: of the game without having to throw the ball forty times. Now,

791
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 6: I'm not comparing it to Stafford again because I think

792
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 6: if you want to get down and break all this

793
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 6: stuff down, the argument against Stafford is much easier to

794
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 6: make with Pooka and the Coop, you know, catching seventeen

795
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 6: hundred worth, seventeen hundred yards worth of passes and making

796
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 6: a one hand touchdown catch every single day to them, like,

797
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 6: May doesn't have that of That's why May is my pick.

798
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 6: I've seen him do it with basically Stefan Diggs and

799
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 6: a bunch of other guys, and he doesn't have anywhere

800
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 6: near the amount of options to go to that Stafford has.

801
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 6: That pains me. You guys know this. I love Stafford. Yeah,

802
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 6: and he had a great year, but May's was better.

803
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that.

804
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: You know, we're getting to the point now where it

805
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: does feel like the MVP is you know, the nerds

806
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: are saying it's May. The film watchers are saying it's May,

807
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: but maybe pretty close, right.

808
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: It really kind of a toss up.

809
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: And then it's like the other people that are like, well,

810
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: he's thirty seven and he's the life, and like May

811
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: will have his chance and like all that.

812
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 6: I don't like that. I don't like that him. That

813
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 6: bothers me.

814
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: But the one thing that argument I really kind of

815
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: lean toward is if you swapped them, if May went

816
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: to the Rams and Stafford came here, everything else is

817
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: the same. May would have more success because Stafford wouldn't

818
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: have the protection.

819
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 6: By put but by by what? By record, there's no

820
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 6: chance the Pagets wouldn't be fourteen and three with Stafford

821
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 6: as their at their quarterback. I think record and his numbers,

822
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 6: I don't think he would have the same numbers that

823
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 6: he had in the Rams. They wouldn't have forty six touchdowns.

824
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Or whatever he threw.

825
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think they would be maybe fourteen and three. Fred,

826
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 6: there's a bad schedule they played. They wouldn't be losing

827
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 6: to all these teams.

828
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: Well, well, you're you're probably right, but I don't think that.

829
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: I think May would might even do better than he's

830
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: doing now with the rams, with.

831
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 6: All that, With all that, I think you could make

832
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 6: a strong argument.

833
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: For that, with all that talent. Think it's really hard

834
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: you could make an argument for that.

835
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: I think now are really projecting, Like I think it's

836
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: hard to say, Like what would they look like in

837
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: the difference?

838
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: You don't think they would know what to do with uh,

839
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: of course he would, But John McVay would know how

840
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: to do a lot with a lot of quarterbacks. Like

841
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: that's kind of the point.

842
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 6: You don't think Josh would have success with an experienced

843
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 6: quarterback like Stafford.

844
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 8: He would have success, but you don't have the line

845
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 8: that you know, like, what would he do when they

846
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 8: break down?

847
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: Stafford can't run?

848
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 8: He no?

849
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 6: Is that not true?

850
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: What the line has been good? It's been better, much better.

851
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm writing something he told me. But Drake may just

852
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: can't stand back there with all day. You know, he's

853
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: he's got to sometimes improvise and make his own time.

854
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: Throw to Diggs on Sunday on the one that put

855
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: Digs over a thousand, Ben Brown and Garrett Bradbury get

856
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: blown by on the line of scrimmage, and he has

857
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: two Miami defenders coming right at him and he just sidesteps,

858
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: does his little skip and rip, steps up in the pocket,

859
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: makes it look and throws it and he almost he

860
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: almost overthrew him.

861
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: It was like really close.

862
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: But the you know, those types of plays, you know,

863
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: are are making a huge difference for this team. And

864
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: if I had to like make a cutup of may

865
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: highlights of why he's the MVP, it would probably not

866
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: be all the downfield bombs to Kaysehan Boody and Kyle

867
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: Williams because he's just standing there in the pocket and

868
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: making the throw. It would be those types of plays

869
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: where he's moving around the pocket and not necessarily scrambling

870
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: or going completely off script, but just moving subtly in

871
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: the pocket to keep himself protected and then keeping his

872
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: eyes down the field and making throws down the field,

873
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: you know, off platform. Like those types of plays are

874
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: the types of plays that quarterbacks that don't have his

875
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: physical skill set they can't make. And so those are

876
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: sacks for eight out of ten quarterbacks. It's like him

877
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: and Allan and probably the guy they're playing on Sunday

878
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 3: night that turns that into a thirty four yard completion.

879
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: And so the difference between that being an eight yard

880
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: sack and a thirty four yard completion is how you have,

881
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: you know, the Patriots offense.

882
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: Right right.

883
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: Back to the game. I think the Patriots you want

884
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: to clean up some things before you get into this,

885
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: and one of them is the officiating. I hope that

886
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: they sent that video of the Hunter Henry. You know,

887
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: I didn't care for the PI. That was a terrible

888
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: call and we got to get that straightened out before we,

889
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, get to Sunday night with the league, you know.

890
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 7: Kind of I just wanted to highlight this through a

891
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 7: tweet by Mike Reese, the normally even keeled Mike Greese,

892
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 7: who tweeted in the first half the Patriots defense not

893
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 7: playoff ready.

894
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: What did you guys think of that from Mike Reese?

895
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: And uh, did you agree? Because I was. I I

896
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: kind of feel like the defense is gonna have to

897
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: pull a New Year Day, kept it up all the

898
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: game like that. I would agree, but I think they

899
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: righted it. Listen there, that's kind of their Achilles right now,

900
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: the Achilles heel. Hopefully Spelane comes back, Landry comes back,

901
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Tonga comes back, and they're a little bit more healthy

902
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: going into this game Sunday night.

903
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 8: But yeah, that if they lose, it's gonna be because yeah,

904
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 8: they're letting it's too easy for the other team.

905
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 7: I just think so much of this game will depend

906
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 7: on pressure, you know, and especially early in the game.

907
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 7: But is herol Lander gonna have some juice off the edge?

908
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 7: Like can you take advantage of the Chargers weakness at tackle?

909
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 7: And you know a lot of the games they lost

910
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 7: this year you just see obscene pressure rates.

911
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: Can the Patriots generate that?

912
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 7: And I mean every conversation begins with what you just said, Fred,

913
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 7: if they can get X, Y and Z back and

914
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 7: they can return to the form that we saw them

915
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 7: play three months ago. So you know, that to me

916
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 7: is just again And it didn't help looking back at

917
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 7: that Charger game last year where it's just ten.

918
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: Play drive eleven play drive.

919
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 7: You know, and there are some of the same person game.

920
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 7: I'm gonna spook myself.

921
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: That's how I do it. Take that game and throw

922
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: it in the trash can. But what about the.

923
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 7: People who say, well, the Chargers got to come the

924
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 7: come East, they can't play in the cold. They played

925
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 7: in December and four, whether they did fine, they did fine,

926
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 7: I would.

927
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 6: Dis miss both of those comments. Like last year's game,

928
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 6: anything that happened last year really doesn't have any relevance

929
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 6: to me. First of all, they completely turned the roster over.

930
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 6: They're all different players, and they were playing out the

931
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 6: string last year that might have been rock bottom that

932
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 6: particularly game. Plus I got a flat tire after the game.

933
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: These are all tough guys. I think it's funny that

934
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: this is what does every time that game like three

935
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Speaker 1: years ago.

936
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 6: You want to talk about what's happened this year, you know, like.

937
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert lighting up the Patriots and Fox remember.

938
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 6: Last year it is. I'm sorry it is, And I'm

939
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 6: I'm the guy on this show that's worried about more

940
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 6: things than anybody, right, I do not worry about the

941
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 6: performance from last year. If he comes here and lights

942
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 6: them up, it's going to be like he's playing against

943
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 6: a new, entirely different defense. So hats off to him

944
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 6: if he does. And I'm not dismissing it now. I

945
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 6: think they have three fairly good options of receiver. I

946
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 6: think they have a good young tight end. I think

947
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 6: they have a running back who's pretty fresh because he's

948
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 6: he missed a good chunk of the year, so I

949
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 6: think they have some problems.

950
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 7: So what you're saying, I just say the relevance to

951
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 7: me is just is an example of what happens when

952
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 7: you don't get pressure on Justin Herbert. And I know

953
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 7: what you're saying that Patriots probably playing out the string

954
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 7: and they're not trying to get to the quarterback as

955
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 7: hard as they're going to be maybe trying to get

956
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 7: after him in a playoff game.

957
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: But you know, I take the whole the player in.

958
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 7: This is who the player is, and this is what

959
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 7: he is capable of doing with a lot of the

960
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 7: same pieces that he'll have this Yea.

961
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: I just watched him two weeks ago against Dallas and

962
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: I can tell he's I mean, he's a.

963
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Good he's a really good player.

964
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 6: There's very similarities between these two teams. And I think

965
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 6: there's a lot of similarities between the two quarterbacks.

966
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: Even against Houston, Like Houston's got guys draped all over

967
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: him and he's completing back.

968
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he's Justin Herbert. He's awesome. Yeah, he's great.

969
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 6: I give was it forty to seven that game last year?

970
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 6: I give that the same amount of relevance as I

971
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 6: do I believe that they be justin Herbert forty three

972
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 6: to nothing at one point in San Diego his rookie year,

973
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 6: or in La wherever the game was like, yeah, zero

974
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 6: relevance both games.

975
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: One other thing I want to bring up before we

976
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: get to the emailers and callers is you know, just

977
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: the vibe in the locker room of this team and

978
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: you know what we see as you know, really great

979
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: camaraderie and chemistry and what Campbell Will Campbell said recently

980
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: just to was it yesterday or two days ago Sunday

981
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: about playing here and that he hasn't had this much

982
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: fun playing football since high school. A lot of people

983
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: told him it's not going to be as good as

984
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: colleg you know, and like he's he said that that

985
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: was bs and he hopes that he never has to

986
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: play for any other coach or team than this team.

987
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: He said, So here's a young kid who comes in

988
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: and feels that way. You know, is it just you know,

989
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: gobbley goop or like, is there something.

990
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: To know it?

991
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: Just it makes sense to me.

992
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 7: Just I mean, this was one of the things in

993
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 7: the spring that when you saw Will Campbell and kind

994
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 7: of got a vibe from Will Camblelly like, this is

995
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 7: a mic Raabel guy. I mean, and you know, I

996
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 7: kind of related to Taylor Lwan, similar left tackle, kind

997
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 7: of kind of personality guy. And no, not surprising at all,

998
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 7: but I mean I love that.

999
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: So we all we got, we all we need? Is

1000
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: that enough to propel you to some wins during this

1001
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: playoff run? If they're healthy? I mean, I think the

1002
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: right pieces. I think that was probably the biggest positive.

1003
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: You know, I talked a lot about the run game

1004
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: and after further review, but Will Campbell and Milton Williams

1005
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: looking like Will Campbell and Milton Williams was a really

1006
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: good sign. And I thought Will Campbell was really good

1007
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: in this game and didn't look rusty pretty much at all,

1008
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 3: except maybe the very first pass set of the game.

1009
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: He kind of got blown back, but I'll give him grace.

1010
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: It was his first pass set in five weeks in

1011
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: an NFL game. But other than that, I thought he

1012
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: was really good in this game. And I thought Milon

1013
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: Williams immediately came back and presence was felt. You know there,

1014
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: you know, tackle for loss in the run game, sliding

1015
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: the protection his way, giving Barmore one on ones on

1016
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: his sack like, you know, just right away again you

1017
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: have those two guys in the middle just wreaking have it,

1018
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 3: you know, talking about the pressure on Herbert, I don't

1019
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: know if the pressure is going to come from the edges,

1020
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: but can they get bar Moore and Milton Williams rolling

1021
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: up the middle and try to push that pocket, then

1022
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: I think that maybe you can affect Herbert that way.

1023
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: So it was really good to see both those guys

1024
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: look not really limited in any sort of way. You know,

1025
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: Milton Williams didn't play a ton, but they pulled the

1026
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: starters in the fourth quarter and you know, look the

1027
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: part and I think if you're optimistic about it, like

1028
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: that's what you need to hope. You need to hope

1029
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: that everybody that's been banged comes back for the playoffs

1030
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: is one hundred percent. And the team that you know

1031
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: be Buffalo in Week five is the team that's going

1032
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: to take the field on Sunday night.

1033
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: Right Well, the Patriots are officially AFC East champs, and

1034
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1045
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Speaker 8: All right, so eight five five PATS five hundred is

1046
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Speaker 8: the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address.

1047
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: I guess we can open up the phones. I know

1048
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: people have been holding on. The phones are all stacked up.

1049
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: We'll start with Anthony in Seattle. What's that Anthony? Hey?

1050
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 3: What's up my people?

1051
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 6: How y'all doing?

1052
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Hey?

1053
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 9: Okay, a long time no talk. I hope you hope

1054
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 9: guys have happy holidays and all that good stuff. I'm

1055
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 9: gonna be quick today because I know the phones are

1056
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 9: busy and we're all excited, but man, what a season.

1057
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 6: Man.

1058
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 10: I'm just Paul.

1059
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 9: I know we're not allowed to be proud, but I'm

1060
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 9: so proud.

1061
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 10: Of the scene.

1062
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 9: I got my I ordered my AFP East Champs T shirt.

1063
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 9: I almost didn't because it's not going to get here

1064
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 9: till next week. And I thought, man, we could potentially

1065
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 9: be out of the playoffs.

1066
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 10: I hope hopefully not, but we could potentially be out

1067
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 10: of the playoff.

1068
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: Sport to rise.

1069
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 9: But then I just had to step back and think

1070
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 9: and go no, no matter what happens from this point on,

1071
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 9: we took We took the division title from prime Josh

1072
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 9: Allen like, I'm just I'm so happy. I just got

1073
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 9: one more goalpost to move and uh and so I

1074
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 9: asked for a win season. You know, they to split

1075
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 9: with Miami and split with Buffalo. If you're gonna start

1076
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 9: becoming a good team, you can't let anybody sweep you,

1077
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 9: no matter how much better they might be. So obviously

1078
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 9: they check those boxes.

1079
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 10: I moved to go post.

1080
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 9: Again after the buye. I just said I want them

1081
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 9: to split those two games between Baltimore and Buffalo, and

1082
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 9: then finished strong. They check those boxes. The five and

1083
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 9: one of the division division title fourteen win season, the

1084
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 9: one last thing I would like to see them do

1085
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 9: if they can beat the Chargers either way, I'm satisfied,

1086
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 9: but you know, it would be somewhat of a disappointment

1087
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 9: to go to win fourteen games and go wane and

1088
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 9: done in the playoffs. So we can get a playoff

1089
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 9: win under Drake May's belt, I could not ask for

1090
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 9: anything else from the twenty twenty five Patriots.

1091
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Anthony, sounds good.

1092
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the season's already a success, but it

1093
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: can't be understated how massive.

1094
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: It would be to win a playoff game.

1095
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, just for the whole for Drake May,

1096
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: for Mike Rable, the whole regime, everything they've built. It

1097
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 3: would feel somewhat emptier if they sure were one and

1098
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: done in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So I think it'd mean a lot. As in New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan, Yeah, Hey, guys, comment about the game.

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Speaker 10: But first I'd just like to say, you know, been

1102
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 10: watching Drake play that position. There's certainly an ease and

1103
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 10: a fulidityless game, whether it's throwing on the run or

1104
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 10: running on the you know, running to avoid the sack.

1105
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 10: You might say he plays with a certain elegance. You

1106
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 10: might even say grace. I think it might be nowhere

1107
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 10: I'm going with this. How do you feel about Drake

1108
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 10: amazing grace.

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00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, sorry, Dan, Okay, okay, okay, all right, is

1110
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: that it?

1111
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 10: But no, well, no, I wanted to ask because you know,

1112
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Speaker 10: I'll tell you. I know you've been talking about watching

1113
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 10: tape from what this year? What about two years ago?

1114
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 10: Is there anything to be gleaned off of the game,

1115
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 10: whereas I think it was six nothing. But I've been

1116
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 10: watching a lot of take from the going back to

1117
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 10: the sixty three after title game, all two minutes of it.

1118
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: I have not watched they just played last year.

1119
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: I have not watched a second of any recent Chargers

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00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: Patriots games. I think that they have zero idalidity.

1121
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 6: Was the Patriots whole roster, the staff completely different, all

1122
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 6: the almost all the coaches are completely different. Different offensive system,

1123
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 6: different defensive system.

1124
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all new, Dan, It's all new.

1125
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Speaker 2: Thanks for the call.

1126
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 6: And I do think the teams play very similar styles.

1127
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 6: I think they want to play the same kind of way.

1128
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 6: I think maybe the the Chargers are a little bit

1129
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 6: more committed to the run than the Patriots have been.

1130
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 6: But I think they want to be physical, they want

1131
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 6: to sort of be balanced offensively, they want to play

1132
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 6: good defense, and you know, they don't want to win

1133
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 6: forty one thirty eight. You know, some teams get real

1134
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 6: comfortable in those situations. The Chargers don't really.

1135
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: Want to do that.

1136
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 6: They want to possess the ball, Yeah, that's for sure.

1137
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 6: And there I think they're second in the league and

1138
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 6: second league.

1139
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 3: They don't run the ball as much as you think. Uh,

1140
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: they only run the ball thirty seven percent of the time,

1141
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: is twenty seventh in the NFL.

1142
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 6: So they have surprised to see that number. I know

1143
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 6: that they've been kind of they just can't block offensive line.

1144
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: So you know, they they're very good on third down. Uh,

1145
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: they are very good at staying on the field. They

1146
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: they chew clock. They're one of those types of their

1147
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh team. You know that that's how they play.

1148
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: Their defense is really good. Their defense has been really

1149
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: good all year. You know, they don't give up a

1150
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 3: lot of big plays, a really good pass defense, really

1151
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 3: exotic in the way that they cover, which we can

1152
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: talk about I'm sure all week. And you know they

1153
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: have their deep right now, they're justin Herbert, just enough

1154
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: of him and a really good defense like that. That's

1155
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: really what's keeping them afloat. Is Herbert doing Herbert things,

1156
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: and their defense is top ten in pretty much everything.

1157
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: Is this the best defense they Patriots have played this year?

1158
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: It's the best defense that has as an offense that

1159
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 3: can you know, somewhat match it, you know, like Cleveland's

1160
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: probably the best defense that they've played, but Cleveland's offense

1161
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: is obviously a train wreck.

1162
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: So, uh, it's a good defense. It's it's really good.

1163
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: They run a lot of quarters coverage, they run a

1164
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: lot of match zone.

1165
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: They're doing all the different things that like all of

1166
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 3: us film nerds get all hot and bothered by. You know,

1167
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 3: it's a lot of different types of match zones and

1168
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: things like that, and it's it's tough. It can be

1169
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 3: tough to to get guys open against it.

1170
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: All right, Sam's in North Carolina? Hey, Sam, Sam? Sam?

1171
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: Sam Green eggs Nope, Okay, he's out. Josh in the

1172
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: Bog says, Paul's out of his mind if he thinks

1173
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: May didn't win us a single game this year, we

1174
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have won the division with Stafford. When did I

1175
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: say that May didn't win us a game? Well, he's saying, well,

1176
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: he's saying that if you had Stafford.

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Speaker 6: But that's not saying that you don't have made that's

1178
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 6: saying you have someone who's neck and neck.

1179
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: With Drake May for MVP. No, but what he's saying

1180
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: is May, I'm not.

1181
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 6: Telling you any stiff quarterback would have won fourteen games.

1182
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 6: I'm saying the possible MVP would have won.

1183
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: For what he's saying is you wouldn't have won as

1184
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: many games with Stafford.

1185
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 6: Okay, but that's his opinion. But I didn't say that

1186
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 6: they wouldn't have won like May didn't win him any games.

1187
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 6: That's not the same thing. Like there's two guys that.

1188
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: Are up for MVP.

1189
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 6: I think if you flipped them, the team's records would

1190
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 6: be the same. That's not the same as saying that

1191
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 6: they didn't win any games.

1192
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.

1193
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, it's not the same argument. But but what

1194
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 6: May have that's absurd.

1195
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: Would Stafford have won as many games for the team

1196
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: as made it?

1197
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 6: I think he would have, Yes, because he's an MVP,

1198
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 6: not because he's like Justin Fields wouldn't have won fourteen games. Probably,

1199
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Speaker 6: That's what he's kind of suggesting that I said, and

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00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 6: I'm not saying now he's.

1201
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: Just I think he's simply saying that you don't win

1202
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: as many games with Stafford.

1203
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 6: I'm simply replacing an MVP with with the MVP runner up,

1204
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 6: who has more talent. And I'm saying that they would

1205
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 6: have had fourteen mints.

1206
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: No, is the MVP made. He's some more talent town.

1207
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1208
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: And you said you're replacing him with them with.

1209
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 6: A similar runner up, Yes, with a similar guy with

1210
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 6: the runner up. Yes, I say, May with MVP, you

1211
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 6: win the division with yes Stad Padford, Yes, I do well.

1212
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: The emailer says, no, that's the different thirteen one yard touchdown.

1213
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 6: No, he's saying that I'm suggesting that they didn't win

1214
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 6: any games.

1215
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: That's what he said.

1216
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 6: And I may want a lot of games. There's a

1217
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 6: lot of games that if they had average quarterback play,

1218
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 6: they wouldn't have won.

1219
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1220
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 6: I don't think Stafford's an average quarterback. I think that's

1221
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 6: where the disconnect is. I think instead of all.

1222
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: Those two yard touchdown runs, the Patriots should have just

1223
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: let May throw for him, you know, like Stafford did

1224
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 3: in the seed locked game last week.

1225
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 6: We had the most twenty plus yard touchdown passes. They

1226
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 6: were tired Stafford twenty plus air yards, sorry, air yards

1227
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 6: I know I have to nerrod it up air yards.

1228
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: NFL record one yard touchdown passes. Okay, it's really tight

1229
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: in the red zone though, I mean, you gotta gotta

1230
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: be on you.

1231
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 3: You got to make sure that Puka catches it with

1232
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 3: his right hand instead of his left hand.

1233
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 6: Dad is the number one reason why I think May

1234
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 6: is better. He's done it with less.

1235
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: Collins made someone hander, Dylan says. Reports are saying Rabel

1236
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: whispered lead them into Chase's ear, and that's what gave

1237
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: him the strength to return possible lay hands.

1238
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 6: I don't did anybody notice that? Did he late?

1239
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: Did he go off the field? Every time.

1240
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 6: You will receive total consciousness.

1241
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you know some like in soccer they

1242
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: have like the holy water that they spray on. Take

1243
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: a snip out of his mouth and he throws.

1244
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1245
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't think May wins the m v P. And

1246
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I find it annoying. You don't

1247
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: know what the future holds and how the voters are

1248
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: going to view it going forward if he doesn't get

1249
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: it this year. Because Stan Stafford deserves a Lifetime Achievement Award,

1250
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: I will always view it as a missed opportunity, but

1251
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: hopefully he wins many more. I guess anyway, Chason, Chason

1252
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: and Landry need to be huge this game.

1253
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 8: If we can get pressure with four, it's going to

1254
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 8: be a long day for Herbert. Anything else would be

1255
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 8: a shootout, and Herbert hasn't been great under pressure this year.

1256
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 6: Well, the other thing that they could use is some

1257
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 6: good coverage. You know, if mint they're not great at

1258
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 6: generating pressure on the passer, let's give him a little

1259
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 6: extra time to get there, you know, marry up the

1260
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 6: coverage and the rush, you know, make Herbert not be

1261
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 6: able to throw the ball when he wants to, and

1262
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 6: then you should be able to get home. With this

1263
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 6: offensive line and the struggles that it's had.

1264
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 7: Do you put anything in what Bill said about Bill

1265
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 7: Belichick saying trying to get a lead on them, like

1266
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 7: they play differently when they're.

1267
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 6: Doing Yeah, no one wants to throw the ball forty

1268
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 6: five times.

1269
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: He's very big on that.

1270
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 3: That's why he never really liked any the pressure metrics

1271
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 3: because he felt like the game script determined a lot

1272
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: of those things. So when you're you know, playing teams

1273
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 3: with the lead and you're all fourth quarter, you're pass

1274
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: rushing all fourth quarter and then all of a sudden,

1275
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of these metrics gets padded. But

1276
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: he uh, I think that their offensive line, uh, you know,

1277
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: is everybody as bad as the Patriots offensive line last

1278
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 3: year was? I mean they are dead last and pretty

1279
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: much every metric across the offensive line.

1280
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

1281
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: Watching them on tape, you know, they struggle with a

1282
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: lot of different things, you know, schematically.

1283
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 6: And they managed to win eleven games. Almost like Herbert,

1284
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 6: you can work around that if you're good enough, the defense.

1285
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: Pretty good quarterback.

1286
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: It's I don't necessarily know if Like my point is,

1287
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if Chase On and Landry need to

1288
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: be Miles Garrett on Sunday if they if they, if

1289
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: they're just like, you know, have a decent game and

1290
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: Milon Williams and Christian Barmore are doing their things and

1291
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: the inside. Those two guys are the most important guys

1292
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 3: to me, because you're not like's on in Landry or

1293
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 3: knocking to all of a sudden have you know, They're

1294
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 3: not going to go out there and be Micah Parsons

1295
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: on Sunday night.

1296
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 7: So let's just it's all you know, stunts and yeah, yeah, yeah,

1297
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 7: a lot of that's just it's just how do you

1298
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 7: get off the field with this guy?

1299
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: That's what you know.

1300
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 7: It just seems it's consistently how do you get off

1301
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 7: the field. And that's what's going to be troubling to

1302
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 7: me at the start of the game if it just

1303
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 7: feels like it's four man rush, nice pocket no, no, yes,

1304
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 7: you know him just going through progression.

1305
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 6: But it's like we talk about all the time too,

1306
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 6: and you see it when the defense is struggling, and

1307
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,959
Speaker 6: you saw it a little bit Sunday in the first

1308
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 6: half and into the third quarter before they turn it

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00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 6: around when the subs came in. But they first and

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Speaker 6: second down are so important. Like if the Patriots defense

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00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 6: is entirely different on third and four as it is

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Speaker 6: on and I know that, like the numbers might not be,

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00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 6: Like you can see how much more aggressive they get

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00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 6: on third and longs and all of a sudden, Marcus

1315
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 6: Jones is in the backfield, you know, coming up with

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00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 6: a sack if you can get them this particular team

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00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 6: in those third and law ungs, they can't protect everyon.

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Speaker 6: Gave you the numbers. It's a terrible offensive line.

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Speaker 3: It is the best part of the Patriots defense. They're

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00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 3: twelfth in the league on third down. Yeah, I gotta

1321
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: get that, and that that's been their best thing is

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00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: you know, especially when you get get them into third

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Speaker 3: and medium plus and you're able to start drawing up

1324
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: pressure and you know, bringing blitzes and doing different exotic things. Now,

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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 3: you know, with the Chargers, I think Herbert's numbers do

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00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: drop off against pressure, even relatively to the rest of

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Speaker 3: the league. And he's playing with one hand, you know,

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00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: and he has fumbled a lot more since that he

1329
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 3: broke his hand. So he has five fumbles since he

1330
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 3: broke the hand.

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Speaker 6: So I'll give you another stat that kind of jumped

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Speaker 6: out at me, you know, with with Herbert, and this

1333
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 6: to me is a product of the He has almost

1334
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 6: five hundred yards rushing. That's a product of the offensive

1335
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 6: line stinks and he has to run more, you know,

1336
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 6: like Drake. Everybody would say Drake's a really good runner. Right,

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00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 6: that's less than May had less than Herbert rushing.

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Speaker 1: As his second most rushing yards among quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, Herbert should be twenty fewer attempts.

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Speaker 1: To He's going to be top five in the voting

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 6: Herbert deserves to and he's not going to get it.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't deserve quarterback team deserve some mention, like this

1344
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: offensive line is horrid.

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Speaker 6: Like I would tell you that, Like CJ. Stroud, I

1346
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Speaker 6: really like he doesn't deserve MVP consideration. That team is

1347
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Speaker 6: not you know where it is because of c J.

1348
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Speaker 6: Stroud right now.

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Speaker 3: Winning eleven games behind that offensive line is an accomplishment.

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Speaker 6: That's why he deserves MVP consideration. Yeah, I mean some

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Speaker 6: of the games that he's played, Evan talked about guys

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Speaker 6: just hanging on his shoulder. Go back and watch the

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Speaker 6: first Denver game. There's a touchdown pass that he throws

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Speaker 6: in the first Denver game early in the year that

1355
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Speaker 6: is absolutely absurd that he didn't get sacked. He's getting

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Speaker 6: ripped down and then he throws it. I think it's

1357
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Speaker 6: Keenan Allen in the back of the end zone. He

1358
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 6: had like a thimble to put the ball in while

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Speaker 6: a guy is dragging him down. Guys like Drake May Herbert,

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Speaker 6: Josh Allen Mahomes. There's not that many guys that do that.

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Speaker 6: We saw Lamar Jackson do it Sunday night. Sorry, you know,

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Speaker 6: some of my followers were very upset at me for

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Speaker 6: claiming that Lamar Jackson made a really good play in

1364
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Speaker 6: the game. That seemed to rankle the feathers of some

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Speaker 6: people who just wanted.

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Speaker 1: To say the one where they missed the time Paul,

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Speaker 1: bad defense. Okay, I gotta wrap them up. What are

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Speaker 1: we doing? Jeff in Canada? I worry about Mike. He

1369
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Speaker 1: was bored going twelve and four, hated going fourteen and

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Speaker 1: four and thirteen, but now that we're fourteen and three,

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Speaker 1: he seems paranoid that it won't last or something coming

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Speaker 1: off our thirty eight ten demolished demolition of the Fins.

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Speaker 1: He was so concerned because we gave up a third

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Speaker 1: and one. On defense, It's the NFL.

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Speaker 8: In ninety nine percent of games, both teams are going

1376
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Speaker 8: to move the ball and both teams are going to score.

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Speaker 8: Defense is now about getting a couple key stops in

1378
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 8: the game, forcing a field goal and creating a turnover.

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Speaker 8: There were really only two games all year our defense

1380
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Speaker 8: really blew it, and in both cases it was being

1381
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 8: over aggressive that got has burned Raiders and the Bills game.

1382
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Speaker 2: You've been so.

1383
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: Passionate about getting back to twelve and four or fourteenth three,

1384
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: relax and enjoy it. Can't. So there you go, I can't.

1385
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: It's a playoff week. I have to tie myself into

1386
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: being nervous. I'm gonna use the shots at Mike.

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Speaker 3: I do agree with the defense overall point, though, and

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Speaker 3: just watching some of these teams that are in the

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01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 3: playoffs now, like Besides, like Houston and Seattle, I don't

1390
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 3: really know if anybody has a truly dominant defense. And

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Speaker 3: I think the Patriots have enough defensively that if Drake

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Speaker 3: May plays like he has all year, they're going to

1393
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Speaker 3: be a really tough out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know they're going to win.

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Speaker 7: Totally agree with that, Yeah, And that's one of the

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Speaker 7: truths I think I've arrived at is that when we

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Speaker 7: talk about defense, that there are definitely a couple really

1398
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 7: good defenses that can impact games, and the rest of

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Speaker 7: the defenses you're just hoping that they're going to make

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Speaker 7: the right plays at the right game time.

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Speaker 6: What I always see, too, is when you hear about

1402
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 6: Denver's got a really good defense, Houston's got a really

1403
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 6: good defense, and I always sort of take that, oh

1404
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 6: that you know, they must be right, you know, I

1405
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 6: don't watch these teams on a weekly basis then the

1406
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 6: next games, and I'm like, nothing special about this defense.

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01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they're good in this day and age.

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01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 6: The way the emailer put it, and I think Evan

1409
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 6: supported that, that's kind of defense nowadays, like see if

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01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 6: we can for hold on and let's force a punt

1411
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 6: or two. Let's see if we could take the ball

1412
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 6: away they're going to move the ball. Can we be

1413
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 6: tough in the red zone. That's one of the problems

1414
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 6: that I worry about with the Patriots is they haven't

1415
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 6: been tough in the red zone, but for the most

1416
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 6: you know, Houston the other day against a bunch of

1417
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 6: backups was given up bomb after problem. Now, I know

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Speaker 6: that a lot of Houston guys were out of the

1419
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 6: game too, but shouldn't you just have structure on defense.

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Speaker 6: You don't want to be allowing thirty points to a

1421
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 6: third string quarterback.

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01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: I think, you know the number one thing now with

1423
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 3: all defenses is explosive plays, like how.

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01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Can you limit X plays? And that's this team does

1425
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: well in that.

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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel says, if you that is the number one

1427
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 3: thing because the you know, the numbers tell you that

1428
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: you know, if you have one x play in a drive,

1429
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: it's like a seventy sixty percent chance it's a scoring drive.

1430
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 3: Of it's two, it's like a ninety ninety five percent chance. So,

1431
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: like everything about defense nowadays is like, how do we

1432
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: not give up the big play? And let's get to

1433
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 3: third down and then let's boogy right, and that that's

1434
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 3: pretty much what first and second down defense is.

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Speaker 13: Jory Great, Hi, I've heard you on the radio this

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Speaker 13: morning talk about but just don't worry.

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Speaker 1: Talk about the Chargers and have their team there. It's

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Speaker 1: constructing guilty to you. I'm wondering if feels the same

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Speaker 1: way about your team, and if defined exactly, yeah.

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Speaker 11: I do.

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Speaker 14: Now I feel like we are now. I will just

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Speaker 14: tell you that they play great defense. They're very sound,

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01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 14: they're good tacklers, they're physical, they get off the field

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Speaker 14: on third day. They're good in the red zone. They

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Speaker 14: run the football. It's a physical football team. They possess

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Speaker 14: the football. They lead the NFL in time of possession.

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Speaker 14: You know, they have good, very good quarterback play. They're

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Speaker 14: well coached. They play with technique and fundamentals the game

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01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 14: that doesn't They don't panic, you know, one way or

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Speaker 14: the other. They kind of stick to their game plan

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01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 14: and while you're down and execute critical situations. So a

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Speaker 14: lot of respect for them, certainly what they've done in

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Speaker 14: short amount of time. Your team, I think, I think

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Speaker 14: that we are, we're trending in the right direction, that

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Speaker 14: we have our moments of all of those and I

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01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 14: can point to numerous instances of us doing it. So again,

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Speaker 14: that's uh you know, I think that's important is what

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01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 14: we're able to do on Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: That needs to be venged.

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Speaker 1: Your offensive line and closet of the year or two.

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Speaker 1: He's the left side.

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Speaker 6: A lot of players came in the shows overall the

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Speaker 6: group and s.

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Speaker 14: It'll be critical this week against a good front, a

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01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 14: good defense, so that that's what's gonna matter.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 14: They've you know, I think they even continue to improve

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Speaker 14: and helped the state balance. I mean games where we

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 14: didn't run the football as well as we would like,

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01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 14: but then we had games where we really ran it

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Speaker 14: really well. I think they're trying to do a good

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Speaker 14: job of protecting uh Drake and you know, give us opportunities.

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Speaker 1: To get anyone back from DJU this week because it's too.

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Speaker 2: Old to tell.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's probably too early to tell, you know. So

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Speaker 14: Alex Austin will continue to practice and his return to

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Speaker 14: play and will evaluate that and then see where see where.

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Speaker 14: The other guys are Seahorse, Blane and Landry and and

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Speaker 14: tong Are and Jared as well.

1523
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: You said on the radio today that you thought Drake

1524
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: was MVP of the league.

1525
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 14: Why just, it's extremely accurate. You know, he's he's made

1526
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 14: the most of every passing opportunity. You know, we've created

1527
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 14: a lot of X plays, and to create X plays,

1528
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 14: it's about thirty percent scheme. It's about seventy percent the

1529
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 14: players making a play and part of that is the

1530
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 14: quarterback putting it in a in a great location for

1531
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 14: run after catch. I think you continue to see that

1532
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 14: his ability to extend, use his legs to gain first downs,

1533
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 14: critical first downs, is ability to score when we've asked

1534
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 14: him to score and run it in and just he's

1535
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 14: been everything that we've asked and he continues to get better.

1536
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: He's not satisfied.

1537
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 14: So I know that our success of where we are

1538
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 14: right now today, uh has a lot to do with

1539
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 14: with Drake May yes, sorry, go.

1540
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 12: Ahead, up, Okay, thanks mine. We've seen some really physical

1541
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 12: plays from pushing his alas over the last several weeks.

1542
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: How have you seen that side of him developed this season?

1543
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 14: I think just a confidence level of understanding that that

1544
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 14: he is a big corner, he's a strong he's got

1545
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 14: good size, good strength, and he doesn't just have to

1546
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 14: be a fast athletic corner. And it's hard to take

1547
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 14: and say that the corners in this league aren't going

1548
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 14: to have to tackle. You know, they're going to have

1549
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 14: to tackle when they hand the football off. We don't

1550
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 14: want them to every single play, but there's times where

1551
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 14: they have to and they have to crack replace and

1552
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 14: they have to close the distance and they have to

1553
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 14: stay on their feet and tackle. And you've seen it

1554
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 14: the other way where we've been able to get out

1555
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 14: there or get on some dbs and they've missed tackles and.

1556
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 2: Those those turn into X plays.

1557
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 14: And so so I appreciate Gonzo doing that and CD

1558
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 14: and Marcus Jones and all of those guys, especially men.

1559
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 14: So the tackle from from Craig Woodson at the end

1560
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 14: of half, which is which is a really really good play,

1561
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 14: that is a bad I mean that just looks bad

1562
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 14: when you watch it. Imagine being out there and watching

1563
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 14: a guy come at you with all that space and

1564
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 14: then Craig Woodson and then excuse me, and then Hawk

1565
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 14: had won Later in the game with du So. I

1566
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 14: think those guys have worked on tackling, they've improved and

1567
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 14: then and they've they're gaining confidence, and you know, those

1568
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 14: are the ones, the tackles that you have to have

1569
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 14: that you know, don't turn into touchdowns. Just get him

1570
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 14: on the ground and give us a chance to line

1571
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 14: up and play again.

1572
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 8: Going back to fifty nine, your lot, just so many

1573
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 8: things about that want to help help beat what's.

1574
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 2: That them at the game? Then? What was this range?

1575
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 2: And how much was the range affected by the.

1576
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 10: End of half?

1577
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: You know, where you would you maybe give it a

1578
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,919
Speaker 1: little when you push that, you know, given.

1579
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 14: That, I mean, I think, okay, trying to process all

1580
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 14: this here, I thought we execute First of all, I

1581
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 14: thought we executed the situation.

1582
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: Really well.

1583
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 14: I think he took Keyshan there out of bounds and

1584
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 14: then trying to hit another another chunk with nineteen seconds.

1585
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 2: Probably could have done it either way.

1586
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 14: Could have probably gone in a little closer slid and

1587
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 14: then run the ball in. You know, Drake made a

1588
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 14: decision to get.

1589
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: Out of bounds.

1590
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 14: We took the shot. They had everybody off or we

1591
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 14: couldn't throw it anywhere but the end zone a out

1592
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 14: of bounds and then went with the kick, and I

1593
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 14: would say that would be around the end of half

1594
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 14: or end of game range, you know, based on temperature wind.

1595
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 14: We felt like confidence swing and I'm excited. It was

1596
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 14: a big play for us to answer their three points.

1597
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 13: Mike, you talked about the running game last night in

1598
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 13: the importance this time of year, it seems like it's

1599
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 13: coming together a little bit. You get two running backs

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 13: that their roles sort of how they're playing is working.

1601
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 13: Can you talk about upfront, maybe a little technically speaking,

1602
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 13: what's working there, which is obviously where this starts, what

1603
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 13: they're doing to make this happen for those two guests.

1604
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 14: Well, I think for the run game to have to go,

1605
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 14: you have to move them now. You have to not

1606
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 14: allow penetration, you have to block support. We talked about

1607
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 14: the receivers. Any X play in the run game, receivers

1608
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 14: are going to have to be blocking at the second

1609
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 14: level going there and get support. Chiz did that, Booty

1610
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 14: did that, Diggsy was heading in there on a couple

1611
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 14: of them, and then you have to be able to

1612
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 14: to run through arm tackles, you know, run through arm tackles,

1613
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 14: and and then ultimately make somebody miss. So I have

1614
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 14: to be good in combinations. There's there's single blocks, there's

1615
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 14: combination blocks. There's times when we pull players and they

1616
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 14: have to be good and be able to, you know,

1617
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 14: somewhat displace. You know the line of scrimmage. You can

1618
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 14: do it vertically or you can do it horizontally. So

1619
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 14: I think that we're trying to mix different schemes and

1620
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,520
Speaker 14: it's good that the backs can can all run and execute.

1621
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what we're asking them.

1622
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: To do, and now great moments in.

1623
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 2: History.

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01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 7: You know what else bothered me is that I didn't

1625
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 7: study is the Lane Johnson the tweet of him being

1626
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 7: like gonna have some fun in a couple of weeks

1627
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 7: at the link, and that means my blood boil that one.

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01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: Let's see, all right, come on, let's go like really really,

1629
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: that's what.

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01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 6: Really bothered me, what Nick Boyle said, we'll see how

1631
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 6: they are when we play them. Yeah, hen they then

1632
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 6: they gave up thirty seven points.

1633
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that really bothered Well, you like that.

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01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 6: I don't like any of it. I don't dislike any

1635
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 6: of it. It doesn't really come on my radar. Nothing

1636
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 6: these guys say affects anything.

1637
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: That happens on the field.

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01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 6: I'm very consistent with that. I don't care that he

1639
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 6: mouthed off before the game, and I don't care that

1640
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 6: that didn't have any impact on the game.

1641
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: You guys, I care. That's the lifeblood for hater makes

1642
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: it fun nation. We actually enjoy sports. We get into.

1643
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 6: You, but you can't take a picture after the game

1644
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 6: to win your Your enjoyment of sports really shines through

1645
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 6: when you're disgusted with the team.

1646
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: Celeb protocol and there's etiquette that and you and.

1647
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 6: Broke have fun but not too much.

1648
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from.

1649
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: All right back here. Patriots Unfiltered eight five five past

1650
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com.

1651
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: Is the email that's no, you don't have to do

1652
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: a thing, no, no, no, okay, that's just that theirs.

1653
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: What thing are you doing?

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01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: Okay?

1655
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 1: All right? It's the cool pilot question. So Patriots being disrespected,

1656
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: that's the headline. Will not stand may MVP better than

1657
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: Stafford that's the second headline.

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01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 6: Right, co sign on that.

1659
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: You got that right?

1660
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: Okay, we're on to the chargers. We're onto the chargers,

1661
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: and we're on call. It is Joe and Pennsylvania.

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01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 15: What's up, Joe, Hey, guys that you love the show,

1663
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 15: And sorry I missed the first thirty minutes to start

1664
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 15: from like repeating anything.

1665
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 16: And I'm not calling about.

1666
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 15: League MVP, but about super Bowl MVP.

1667
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 16: Just a fun question on it because.

1668
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 15: I feel like if they snubbed Drake for League MVP,

1669
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 15: they might try to snub them if we were to

1670
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 15: win the super Bowl. But my question you guys is

1671
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 15: May can't be the answer. But who would you guys

1672
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 15: like to see realistically as Super Bowl MVP if May

1673
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:00,919
Speaker 15: didn't in it for the Patriots.

1674
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, Milton Williams maybe or something.

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 6: I don't care.

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: I really don't care. I have never when we'll pick one,

1677
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: we'll find one, you know, like Remandre, I don't know

1678
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: Remandre my pick? What about Diggs? Diggs?

1679
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 6: Diggs?

1680
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: Sure?

1681
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: Maybe, I don't know.

1682
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: You know, I have not thought one second about when

1683
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: you've seen what it takes? What about Hey?

1684
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,799
Speaker 6: I mean you can go in and fair catch like he's.

1685
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: Got some fair catches in him.

1686
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: That was a very good, uh execution on the flea flicker.

1687
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: Really good job by him. Sold the BLUs Yeah, you know,

1688
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 3: took a beat the block and then I like it.

1689
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 3: It was a cute play that actually gained thirty.

1690
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 2: One.

1691
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: That was a good flea flick. That was Henderson did

1692
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: a really good job too. That was pristine flea flicker

1693
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: execution all around, very good.

1694
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 7: A lot of chaos around Henderson, Like, I like that

1695
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 7: was one usually like it seems a little bit more

1696
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 7: stable up front, but he was kind of in the

1697
01:17:58,720 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 7: middle of guys.

1698
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 3: But now I like the added a. He like did

1699
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 3: a little jump cut to kind of sell that he

1700
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 3: was going to run the doll. It was kind of

1701
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 3: like a little bit more of a delay than what

1702
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 3: you're used to seeing it to really sell it, Like

1703
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 3: that's going to go on the teach tape when they

1704
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 3: install the flea flicker and in the spring next year.

1705
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: He's very this is what it's supposed to listen. Whenever

1706
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: is involved in a play, it succeeds.

1707
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 7: I mean, they're asking him in the block a lot.

1708
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 7: I honestly wonder if they're gonna like that's what he's

1709
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 7: basically doing.

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, you know, they have him kept blocking

1711
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: the safety in the box down there in the strong

1712
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 3: safety and then he finally they faked the block and

1713
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 3: he ran the flea flicker and he was wide open.

1714
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he's not a big guy, got

1715
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 3: a big heart, friend good good play strength.

1716
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 6: There's a lot of play strength.

1717
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: He does have some six to.

1718
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 3: Him that's maybe a little bit different than like a

1719
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 3: Pop Douglas. You know, he's got a little bit more

1720
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: more burliness to him than somebody like that.

1721
01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 2: I would agree.

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01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: Well, although I don't know if i'd used to we Burley.

1723
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: That was good. I like that.

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01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: I usually think of you know, old axe man. Uh

1725
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: Sam in North Carolina is giving it another shot? What's up, Sam, Sam?

1726
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 17: He'sam Yeah, I don't know. They just cut off on

1727
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 17: me earlier. But how much fun is it?

1728
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 16: Like?

1729
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 17: It's so much better being fourteen and three versus you

1730
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 17: know what I'm saying, four and thirteen.

1731
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: Like, I think I would agree with that, agree to disagree.

1732
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's crazy, but unless.

1733
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: You're se is what is like?

1734
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 17: And I'm speaking to Evan because I'm sure he knows best.

1735
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 17: So like, what is the best coverage that we should

1736
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 17: play against? Justin Herberts, because I feel like we got

1737
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 17: the best break in the playoffs. Sometimes you need to

1738
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 17: look and I feel like our destiny is lucky, you

1739
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 17: know what I mean. But what's the best coverage that

1740
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 17: we should play against justin Herbertson?

1741
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: What's the best coverage to play against Herbert? And and

1742
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: you'll you'll hang up and listen.

1743
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, definitely talk about this and game plan in

1744
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 3: a couple of days when I publish that. But I

1745
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 3: think the biggest thing, you know, you with him is

1746
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 3: taking out mcconkee, you know, like that's his binky, that

1747
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 3: that's his go to receiver. So I'm really interested to

1748
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 3: see how they handle McConkie because he does run sixty

1749
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: three percent of his routes out of the slot, so

1750
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 3: he's not really a pure outside guy. So Christian Gonzalez

1751
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 3: doesn't usually travel inside to the slot. So that makes

1752
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 3: it a match up with Marcus Jones, who we all love.

1753
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 3: But is their brackets? Is their robber help? Like, how

1754
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 3: do you go about closing down mcconkee, Because I think

1755
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 3: if you can take him away and if you're going

1756
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 3: to force Herbert to throw to Quinton Johnson or Keenan

1757
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 3: Allen or Trey Harris or Gadson, like you take your chances,

1758
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 3: you know, you know, I think that's really where this

1759
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 3: game starts for the Patriots, stop the run, get them

1760
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 3: into the long down and distance, take away McConkie, and

1761
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 3: then live with it. If he throws, you know, bombs

1762
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 3: to Quinton Johnson and he's you know, beating Carlton Davis

1763
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 3: or Gonzalez on the outside, then that's just you tip

1764
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 3: your cap.

1765
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 7: It's funny because it seems like Allen was kind of

1766
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 7: that guy in his previous stint form and I still

1767
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 7: think they have a good chemistry between those two.

1768
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 6: And it even you know, he did have more targets

1769
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 6: and catches than McConkie. And I was wondering if you

1770
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 6: guys saw anything, because I think you guys have dived

1771
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 6: into chargers more so than I have.

1772
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: Was only like games from the sixties, you know, that's

1773
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: all for you. Only games last year when they lost

1774
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: forty to seven.

1775
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 7: I mean they got blown out in that nineteen sixty

1776
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 7: three AFC AFL championship.

1777
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 6: And his mconkie hasn't been heard. Have teams done away?

1778
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he's just the guy.

1779
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 3: So you know, like Houston did a lot with quarters

1780
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 3: and like the Patriots have dipped their toes a little

1781
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 3: bit in some of the quarters waters. But I wouldn't

1782
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 3: say that that's you know, their best coverage. But you know,

1783
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 3: really what teams are doing is, you know, you run

1784
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 3: what's what's called an inside out or a cone bracket

1785
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 3: where there's one guy on his sitting outside of him

1786
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 3: and one guy sitting inside of him. And he has

1787
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 3: a decent vertical juice, but he's really not a downfield receiver.

1788
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,480
Speaker 3: So if you can take away you know, those horizontal

1789
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 3: breaks whether he's cutting in or out, and kind of

1790
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 3: put guys on either side of them, then you can

1791
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 3: kind of fundl the ball to other options. But you

1792
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: know Allan's been he's kind of their third receiver. Like,

1793
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not too concerned about Keenan Allen. Like

1794
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 3: if Carlton Davis is on Keenan Allen, I feel pretty

1795
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 3: good about it. You know, Gadsden's the one guy that

1796
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 3: I think if you're looking for like a guy that

1797
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 3: comes out of nowhere and kind of sneaks up on them,

1798
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 3: you know, he's the one I'm most worried about it.

1799
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 3: Pass catching tight end backgrounds as a wide receiver in

1800
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 3: college then converted full time to tight end, but he's

1801
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 3: really a receiver in a tight end's body, you know,

1802
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 3: kind of like a Mica Sicki type or something like that.

1803
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 6: And the thing that worries me about the Chargers passing

1804
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 6: game is because it looks like it's pretty spread out,

1805
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 6: and I like the Patriots chances better when they have

1806
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 6: a guy or too to focus on, you know, like

1807
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 6: Shakira was pretty quiet in the two Buffalo games this year,

1808
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 6: because I think when they can focus on something, but

1809
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 6: this one it looks to me like Herbert doesn't really

1810
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 6: care who you take away. He's just going to go

1811
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 6: to somebody else. And I do think there's four options

1812
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 6: that are reasonably productive for them. I think the top

1813
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 6: three receivers all have a scary similar amount of yards.

1814
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 2: Yep.

1815
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 6: Like I said, it's very neat. Allen has the most

1816
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 6: targets in the most catches, but the yards are pretty

1817
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 6: much the same. And I agree with you. I would

1818
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 6: more want to live with the volume going to Keenan

1819
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 6: Allen because I don't think he's as dangerous after the catches.

1820
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 6: And it's certainly not Johnston, but not even mconkey.

1821
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, my little fun research took me yesterday. I just

1822
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 7: started watching third and mediums, like third and three to six.

1823
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: What did you do to him?

1824
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 7: But I honestly think and Evan, you can disagree with

1825
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 7: me and tell me I'm stupid, but I think that's

1826
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 7: where you see how good a quarterback really is in

1827
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 7: that like third and middle, you know, third and long.

1828
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 7: You know it's probably going to pass. Third and short

1829
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 7: is probably going to be a run or some kind

1830
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 7: of gadget. But third and three to seven six is

1831
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 7: where you really have to make a play in. Keenan

1832
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 7: Allen and both those guys are just you know, they

1833
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 7: have a real knack for finding holes in zones sitting down,

1834
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 7: and there's a chemistry.

1835
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 6: Maybe much a different kind of player because it's obviously

1836
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 6: a you know, Night and Day body type, but Allen's

1837
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 6: like digs for them.

1838
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when they when they got to have it, they.

1839
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 6: Go to him.

1840
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: You know, he is more explosive, oh night and Day.

1841
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 3: Like That's why Keenan Allen doesn't worry me a lot,

1842
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 3: because Keenan Allen, it's gonna yeah, he might go to

1843
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 3: him on third down, but it's going to be a

1844
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 3: lot of like seven eight nine yard catches.

1845
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a ten yard he averages ten to catch,

1846
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 6: not even eighty one for seven seventy seven, sixty six

1847
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 6: for seven eighty nine for McConkey, and fifty one for

1848
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 6: seven thirty five for Johnston, So it's a good balance

1849
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 6: That kind of worries me. And then you know Gaston,

1850
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 6: you know, forty nine for six six sixty four is

1851
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 6: right there, and Yeasty kind of had a slow start.

1852
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 6: You know, he's a rookie. You know he's come on

1853
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 6: as the seasons progressed. Their balance in the passing game

1854
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 6: concerns me.

1855
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: Ford and Savannah. What do you guys see as the

1856
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 1: biggest liability heading into this game? For me, it's the

1857
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: team's tendency to let their foot off the gas, combined

1858
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: with Herbert's ability to put on the superhero cape in

1859
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. That's the strength of theirs that lines

1860
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: up perfectly with one of the patriots biggest weaknesses. Honestly,

1861
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: that's the only way I see the Patriots losing the

1862
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: game taking the foot off the gas. Okay, yeah, I

1863
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: mean I don't, can I tell you? Yeah, the only

1864
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: way the Patriots can lose is that they don't try.

1865
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, I just.

1866
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1867
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we look at it necessarily that way.

1868
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,799
Speaker 3: I just I think the biggest thing with with Herbert

1869
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 3: is just he has that ability. I think the Miller

1870
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 3: kind of said it like, he has the ability to

1871
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 3: be the best player on.

1872
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: The field on Sunday night.

1873
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 3: He's just as physically talented as Drake May, so he

1874
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 3: can be the MVP of the game. And that is

1875
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 3: worrisome a lot of these matchups that we go down

1876
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 3: the line in like Drake May is going to be

1877
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 3: clearly the better quarterback in you know, I even if

1878
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 3: they play Paul's guy C. J. Stroud next round, I

1879
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 3: still think he's better.

1880
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 1: He's they play, He's more physically talented than strouded.

1881
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 3: Sure, if you play bow Knicks in the AFSC Championship game,

1882
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 3: you all know how I feel about that, that's a blowout.

1883
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: He's better, you know. But Josh Allen and.

1884
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert are the two guys in the tournament that

1885
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 3: are might have on any given Sunday could be better

1886
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 3: than Drake May.

1887
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: Jeremiah says he wants to know with Drake's experience playing

1888
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers last year, the Chargers defensive scheme hasn't changed,

1889
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: as well as not much roster movement on that side

1890
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: of the ball for the Patriots. However, Drake has grown

1891
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: a ton and is playing in a totally different offensive

1892
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: scheme with a good amount of roster turnover. Would you

1893
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: consider this a big advantage for the Patriots or a

1894
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: non factor?

1895
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 3: Non factor because I think like Jesse Minter, their defensive coordinator,

1896
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 3: who's a really up and coming kind of rising star

1897
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 3: and coaching and is probably going to be a head

1898
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 3: coach in the NFL not before long, Like he's not

1899
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 3: dialing it up against Drake may in a forty to

1900
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 3: seven bolowout right, So Like a lot of what they

1901
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 3: run is like a lot of exotic quarters pressures, especially

1902
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 3: on third down, and like they're going to be bringing

1903
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 3: pressure from different areas and drop and guys out and

1904
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 3: doing all sorts of crazy stuff. He's not doing that

1905
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 3: last year to Drake because he didn't have to, right, So,

1906
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 3: like they're just kind of playing their base stuff. Like

1907
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 3: this is going to be a totally different animal from

1908
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 3: a scheme perspective of what the Chargers are going to

1909
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 3: throw at them on Sunday night.

1910
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Let's see Donald in Jackson, Mississippi. What do you think

1911
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: about Cam Newton disparaging Drake Mayhem he calls him. I

1912
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: think that Cam is like Bruce Springsteen and living in

1913
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: his glory days in order to remain the best quarterback

1914
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: from the Carolinas. In his own mind, he must cut

1915
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: Drake down. He thinks he can still play while he

1916
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: was washed up in twenty twenty. Yeah, that whole thing

1917
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton.

1918
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 6: What did Cam Newton do?

1919
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 4: Now?

1920
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: Oh he's he's I forget what it was, but it

1921
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: was just another diminishing of Drake May.

1922
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,919
Speaker 7: I don't think he called him a system quarterback necessarily

1923
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 7: with someone game manager of the game.

1924
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 2: That's what it was.

1925
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really get it to me. He's trying

1926
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: to make it. Yeah, he's really making himself into.

1927
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 3: He's trying to, you know, really jump start a media

1928
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 3: career here, and he's just decided to go with the loud,

1929
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,560
Speaker 3: obnoxious approach for some reason. And then like flex the

1930
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 3: fact that he was the MVP of the league ten

1931
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 3: years ago and that as like his credentials for doing that.

1932
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 2: Like that team me.

1933
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 7: I I think I saw RG three talking about it

1934
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 7: where he was even like I like Cam, I don't

1935
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 7: really know what he's talking about. Like, I mean, you

1936
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 7: can criticize Drake, but at least criticize him for what

1937
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 7: he should be criticized for not saying that he's a

1938
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 7: game manager who when he's been throwing the ball down

1939
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 7: the field all season long.

1940
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: Dustin wants to know, how would you how would we

1941
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: feel if Stafford and May were co MVP like Peyton

1942
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: McNair in the early two thousands. I would do really

1943
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: really hate that.

1944
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 3: I don't think it's an option. I think they have

1945
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 3: an uneven amount of voters now to avoid that kind

1946
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 3: of situation.

1947
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't think so.

1948
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: I think they do.

1949
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 6: Happened the first time because someone split their vote.

1950
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: It's all regular season, right, It's all based on regular season, right.

1951
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 6: Yes, voting already closed.

1952
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's already done.

1953
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1954
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 6: I thought that was fifty. Is that not right?

1955
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I did the list changes every year.

1956
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that I know for sure.

1957
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Let's see, that's.

1958
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 3: How they do it for Super Bowl MVP, like, and

1959
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 3: you know those game awards, there's usually like seven good

1960
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 3: people or nine people, like there's like an.

1961
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 16: What's up, Hey, good afternoon, guys.

1962
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 1: All right, Patty, just a quick question.

1963
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 18: And I'm not saying this because I dislike Jared Wilson.

1964
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 18: I love Jared Wilson, and like friend of the show

1965
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 18: Alex Parts, I think his long term position is going

1966
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 18: to be our center. But just considering how how good

1967
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 18: Ben Brown has played when he's in there, not if

1968
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 18: not the Patriots, but if you guys were running the team,

1969
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 18: would you give consideration of leaving Ben Brown at left

1970
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 18: guard throughout the playoffs? Just because to me, Evan, maybe

1971
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 18: you can tell me I'm wrong. He I know Wilson's

1972
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 18: more athletic, but he just seems to engage a little

1973
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 18: bit quicker on running plays. And I'll take it up there.

1974
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: It's not a crazy question. It's a good question. Yeah,

1975
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 1: it's a fair question.

1976
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a fair question, and you know,

1977
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily look too much into it. But obviously

1978
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 3: their rushing success has come without Will Campbell for three

1979
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 3: out of the four games, and without bet you know,

1980
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 3: Jared Wilson for a couple of them as well. Have

1981
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 3: been Brown in there. So he's definitely a bigger, more

1982
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 3: physical guy than Jared Wilson. And that's why most people

1983
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 3: thought Jared Wilson would play center in the league is

1984
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 3: because he's just built a little bit more like a center,

1985
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 3: So you know, does it help having a little bit

1986
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 3: more you know, power, a little bit more size, you know,

1987
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 3: to take up some more space at left guard?

1988
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: It might? It might. How about Dan and Tampa? What's

1989
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: up Dan?

1990
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 10: Dan?

1991
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: Turned down your internet?

1992
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 13: Dan?

1993
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh boy?

1994
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1995
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 1: What what's going on over there? Where are you? Oh?

1996
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 10: Sorry?

1997
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: I thought the background you're trying to get hold of

1998
01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 2: you guys.

1999
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 10: So I got a couple for the Uh, there's probably

2000
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 10: going to the playoffs.

2001
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:05,759
Speaker 17: The first day is for Evan.

2002
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 6: Evan.

2003
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 18: Did you see those two players at.

2004
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 17: The in the mock draft?

2005
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 18: Actually, you guys to try me that too, But Evan,

2006
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 18: I know he's more of this, uh kind of draft

2007
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 18: kind of guy, that kind of guy.

2008
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 16: But there was the tackle from Nigeria.

2009
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: What's the name of Yeah, I can't hear him. We

2010
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: got the Zamboni going through here. Uh in the background,

2011
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: Dan and email and Dan and we'll talk about it. Yeah,

2012
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't.

2013
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,719
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think he was talking about mock drafts.

2014
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard the mock drafts part and.

2015
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 6: I couldn't hear them. The individual names that he mentioned.

2016
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 6: I mean, the chances are I'm probably not all that

2017
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 6: familiar with the guys at the bottom of the first round.

2018
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: That's where we're gonna be picking. Yeah, Matt Morrell, if

2019
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 1: you want to like jack up the volume a little bit.

2020
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: On the callers. Ben's in California. What's up? Ben Ben

2021
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 1: Ben Ben Ben Ben?

2022
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 6: Okay, probably on Affleck Yeah, it could be Beneflex. We

2023
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 6: wanted to chime in about team Yeah, I don't know

2024
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 6: if you know he's from Cambridge.

2025
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: Gooble Hunting, right, Gooble Hunting. Yeah, you would know. That's

2026
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: the film. Yep, you got yelled at by Gronk playing

2027
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: his So do we care about so?

2028
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 2: Who is this?

2029
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: Anakin on Tattooine put together a chart and it's NFL

2030
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: MVPs and their team's rank and strength of schedules. Do

2031
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: we care about this? Not really, No, No we care.

2032
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: Not great for radio.

2033
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 2: No, not great for.

2034
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: Radio francessor well, you know, going from twenty twenty four down. Uh,

2035
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: the higher the number, the stronger the schedule was incorrect,

2036
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: not in this, not in this. You don't know because

2037
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: you're not reading the email.

2038
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,879
Speaker 6: It says one hardest, thirty two easiest.

2039
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: It says right, he just said the opposite thirty two

2040
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: equals hardest schedule.

2041
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 6: It says, right here one hardest, look at what? Look?

2042
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 6: So which one am I supposed to.

2043
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2044
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 1: It says one equals easiest.

2045
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm looking right at it. It says both things.

2046
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 6: Right read that strength the schedule ranked.

2047
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: One thirty two easy, and so it says that is

2048
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 1: why I told you it wasn't good. It's not it's

2049
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: not good radio because who can't. Yeah, I had to

2050
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: tell you, Well, did anything makes all? Had a heart

2051
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 1: schedule last year? Last year? Well he either had the

2052
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: heart one of the hardest or one of the easiest. No,

2053
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots had a hard schedule last

2054
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:31,719
Speaker 1: I said last year.

2055
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 6: And they had the same schedule as the Patriots. So

2056
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 6: I said, no, I don't think they had all the

2057
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 6: I know this.

2058
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 3: Year that the Patriots are thirty second and the Bills

2059
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 3: are thirty first because they both played the NFC South.

2060
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 3: So it's like the three games tilted a little bit

2061
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 3: towards the Bills. That are different, but the Patriots.

2062
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: But in a seventeen game schedule, if four of your

2063
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: games are tougher than the other.

2064
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 6: Teams, there's only three every three games, right, that makes

2065
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:54,799
Speaker 6: a big difference.

2066
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 3: It does in theory, but it depends on how those

2067
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 3: three teams actually perform because it's based off the last season.

2068
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 6: And like, for example, this year for Buffalo, one of

2069
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 6: those three games was Kansas City, who ended up going

2070
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:10,839
Speaker 6: six and eleven. So that's why they're thirty first in schedule.

2071
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 3: Like the Patriots added the Steelers, Jaguars, and Seahawks to

2072
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 3: their schedule next year, which in theory could be really hard,

2073
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 3: or the Steelers could fall apart and jack might be

2074
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 3: for odds and.

2075
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 2: You know they do.

2076
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 1: You want me to inflame?

2077
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 6: You guys?

2078
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 1: Sure?

2079
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 6: I think the Patriots caught a real break the schedule

2080
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 6: because I think some of the division champs they're going

2081
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 6: to play next year, in my not so humble opinion,

2082
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 6: admittedly aren't the best teams in their division. So I

2083
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 6: think that's a break. Like I would much rather play

2084
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 6: Seattle than San Francisco or the Rams, you know, as

2085
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 6: an example.

2086
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: In a year over year situation, Yeah, I would.

2087
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 6: I think it's this is probably nitpicking. I think Houston's

2088
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 6: better than Jacksonville. I think that's another one of the

2089
01:34:58,160 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 6: division champs they're playing. Is that right?

2090
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 2: Yep?

2091
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 19: And I think the is it the North, Yes, yeah,

2092
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 19: Lions bears the play about whole division, but they have

2093
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 19: Pittsburgh instead of Baltimore in my opinion, or Cincinnati, who

2094
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 19: were both better than Pittsburgh.

2095
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: And I've heard a lot of your people say whenever

2096
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: they talk about the Missive, the AFC South is, Oh,

2097
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 1: the AFC South is a terrible It's not a terrible division.

2098
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 6: The AFC South is not a bad deviating at all.

2099
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 6: And I would actually say the Colts were pretty good

2100
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 6: until they lost until their quarterback towards that killed right. Yeah,

2101
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 6: and totally even the way they played the games with

2102
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 6: Philip Rivers in this last one with Riley Leonard, to me,

2103
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 6: showed that right that they weren't bad.

2104
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 1: The Colts were so good.

2105
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 3: That a lot of the advanced metrics still have them

2106
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 3: as like a top ten team in the NFL because

2107
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 3: they were so good before Daniel Jones' injury that it

2108
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:49,759
Speaker 3: held all the way.

2109
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: Through the.

2110
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 6: I agree with you, Tennessee's got off, but the other

2111
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 6: three teams are pretty good.

2112
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you, But kim Ward's okay.

2113
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 6: Really, he had a strong came strong, finished at the

2114
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 6: season too. Statistically, I think he had multiple touchdowns in

2115
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 6: like for the last five games, and in the last

2116
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 6: game he ran for a touchdown and got hurt. He

2117
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 6: came out of the game, so he probably would have

2118
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 6: had multiple touchdowns.

2119
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 3: Again, there's going to be a lot of people that

2120
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 3: are going to say, like, can he be the Drake

2121
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 3: May of twenty twenty six?

2122
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 1: New coach?

2123
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 3: Really like flashes on film of really like really good

2124
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 3: downfield throws and things like that, like can he get

2125
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 3: that boost.

2126
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 6: Some young guys that made some you know, Gunner Helm

2127
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 6: and I don't know how the first had a great

2128
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 6: year for you know, all purpose yards.

2129
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 7: What what would you guys, what do you expect the

2130
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 7: Colts to do with Daniel Jones come out with a

2131
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:43,759
Speaker 7: torn achilles?

2132
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 1: Like do you run achilles? I would try Riley Leonard?

2133
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 1: Anything there good? I think he has potential to be

2134
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 1: a backup. Yeah that I think that the Colts.

2135
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 3: You know, there are a lot of teams that made

2136
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 3: coaching changes, and I think the Colts sticking with Shane

2137
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 3: Stikeen was really smart.

2138
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 1: He's a really good coach.

2139
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 6: I think the Cincinnati sticking is that Taylor not not.

2140
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: His friendly on that one.

2141
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 3: Poor tracks, like they didn't they're bringing back the entire

2142
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 3: staff like they're bringing back Taylor, the coordinators on both

2143
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 3: sides of the ball like they did.

2144
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: They're making no changes to Cincinnati. I was like, what

2145
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: are we doing? All right? Do we have our guest here.

2146
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: Let's let's bring him in. On that note, Jerry's talking

2147
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: to him. Oh, Jerry, Okay, Jerry madelon our talent coaches, un.

2148
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 6: Guesthing give him a little pep talk, give them a.

2149
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: Little pep talk.

2150
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, Fred, your point about the AFC South I

2151
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 6: think is valid because that is one of the things

2152
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 6: that my boys do often because that division traditionally hasn't

2153
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 6: been as strong, you know, like the Bill O'Brien Texans

2154
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 6: sort of won a bad division a couple of times,

2155
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 6: and that hasn't That's not the case anymore.

2156
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 1: That's not a bad division.

2157
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 6: Sure, everybody continues to think of Jacksonville as like a

2158
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 6: terrible team and pretty good.

2159
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 1: Okay, what do we got, Jerry? We have a show

2160
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 1: to do. You're we need a guest here. Don't talk

2161
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: all the interesting man, How you doing you all right?

2162
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: Have a seat?

2163
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2164
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: Warm to What do we owe this pleasure?

2165
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 8: Man?

2166
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: The fact that my guy Jerry talk to you guys.

2167
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 2: You know, I'll let you guys know, I was trying

2168
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 2: to come on, man, I'm only out here a couple

2169
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 2: of times a year, so I try to maximize, you know,

2170
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 2: the time that I have out here. I try to

2171
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 2: see everyone. Stay, what's up to all the guys, you know,

2172
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 2: the guys that I haven't met, see some of the coaches.

2173
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 1: And yeah, brings back that feeling before we get into

2174
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: your you know, opinion of what's going on in the NFL.

2175
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: What are you up to these days?

2176
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm coaching at my One Point High school in Arizona

2177
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 2: officer coordinator. Actually came here with my co officer coordinator

2178
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: who's here with me right now, and I just I

2179
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 2: just can't. I just that's what I do. I coach

2180
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 2: on football, and I spent time with my kids. You know,

2181
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 2: obviously nine years in the NFL while I was playing,

2182
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, I was you know, you got to go

2183
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,560
Speaker 2: back and forth. Obviously the jobs first, you guys know

2184
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 2: how Bill is so so yeah, just being a a

2185
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 2: present dad and and a coach. Man, it's awesome.

2186
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,679
Speaker 6: A little co offensive coordinator. I'm intrigued.

2187
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 1: So calls the place.

2188
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 2: Big question just an artist calls the play calls the play.

2189
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 2: But he but I put me and him put the

2190
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 2: playbook together. So I came with my Oregon, New England,

2191
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 2: Philly stuff, and he came with his version of you

2192
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 2: know those things, and we put it together, and we

2193
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:42,640
Speaker 2: came up with a really really good playbook. And you know,

2194
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 2: we gotta We got a kid by the name of

2195
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:51,839
Speaker 2: la Garrett Blunt Jr. All right, running back, quarterback, receiver

2196
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:52,839
Speaker 2: in safety.

2197
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 1: So it didn't follow that at all.

2198
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 2: Nah, he didn't. He he don't got that. He don't

2199
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 2: have Das's bill. You know, Dad, Dad grew up in

2200
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 2: Florida eating fried chicken and corn bread and you know,

2201
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 2: corn and rice and stuff like that. And he, you know,

2202
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 2: his mother feeds them, you know, avocado.

2203
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 1: The Brady So he looks so little Birdie tells me,

2204
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: you'd be interested in doing something like we do, like

2205
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 1: you're you're interested in the media a little bit.

2206
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 2: Yes, sir man, I told him. I told her. I

2207
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 2: told these guys that I have a huge interest in it.

2208
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 2: I love doing it. It makes me smile and it

2209
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 2: kind of gives me kind of that same feeling that

2210
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 2: I had when I was playing the game you guys

2211
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 2: will be my teammates. You know what I'm saying. This

2212
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 2: is the locker room. It's the same, you know, so

2213
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 2: I fully enjoy it.

2214
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 1: It's kind is so we have a teammate that you

2215
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: didn't like, particularly, that's Fred.

2216
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if I had any of those. I

2217
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 2: feel like we we had. We all had one common

2218
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 2: goal and we're too probably two common goals, and you know,

2219
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: one was to make money and the other one was

2220
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: to win.

2221
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely along those signs, LG. I want to ask you

2222
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 1: when you first got here.

2223
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 7: We're talking about the playoffs this week, and we always

2224
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 7: hear about how the mood changes inside the building when

2225
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 7: the playoffs are here.

2226
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: What was it like for you your first year with.

2227
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 7: Tom Brady setting the tone in that first playoff year,

2228
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 7: did you feel a shift?

2229
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 19: Oh?

2230
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt the shift before the playoffs. I mean,

2231
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 2: I know this is pretty probably out there, but I

2232
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 2: know you guys have heard people say Bill tells you

2233
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving you put everybody. I told my team this

2234
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,759
Speaker 2: this year, out of Thanksgiving, you put all the stuff

2235
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 2: that you're dealing with, personal business, any of that stuff.

2236
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 2: You put it all in a in a drawer. You

2237
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 2: close it and you fully focus and lock in on

2238
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 2: football and you know, for the rest of it and

2239
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,560
Speaker 2: for the rest of the time that you're here, you know,

2240
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 2: for the rest of the time that we're here, that's

2241
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 2: what we're focusing on. So the ship the shift happens

2242
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: way before the playoffs, but it is a different energy

2243
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 2: once it start because twelve twelve comes in the building.

2244
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 2: You know luck he does every single day. But you know,

2245
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 2: now what kids call or a farming that's you know,

2246
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 2: it glows when he comes in because you know he

2247
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 2: means business.

2248
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:00,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So what you know, having that experience, if if

2249
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 1: you were to talk to a young NFL player and

2250
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: who's never been in the playoffs before, what would be

2251
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 1: the first piece of advice besides putting everything in the drawer? Like,

2252
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: what would you tell them how to get their mind ready.

2253
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 2: For this thing? I tell these guys, man that you

2254
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 2: played sixteen games and none of those will be like

2255
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 2: what today is? You know what this playoff game is?

2256
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 2: This this has implications of you know, you're going to

2257
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 2: go home or are you are you going to continue

2258
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 2: to play? You know, obviously the the history of what

2259
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 2: New England brings is different than the playoffs. Everyone knows that,

2260
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 2: and I think that rubs off on a lot of

2261
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 2: those guys. But I would definitely tell them, like, man,

2262
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, I know you played sixteen games and you

2263
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 2: might have played against this team earlier in the season.

2264
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 2: It won't be the same. It won't be the same.

2265
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 8: So have you paid attention to what the Patriots are

2266
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 8: doing this year at all? If you are, you, yeah,

2267
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 8: So what do you think about your Lemandre Stevenson in

2268
01:42:58,520 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 8: Henderson as a duo?

2269
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 2: I like that, Yeah, I like the duo. Well, I'm

2270
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 2: the one two punches. It seems like it's pretty much

2271
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 2: slowly coming back. Remindra had a reminder had a great game.

2272
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 2: Ye he he looks really really good. I know, I

2273
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 2: know he's been having a couple of issues, but I mean,

2274
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 2: I still think he's a really good back.

2275
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 8: Man.

2276
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 2: I think he's extremely underrated. I mean, that's just I mean,

2277
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 2: this is just my opinion. People probably think I'm being

2278
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 2: favoritism because of the Patriots. But he's but he but

2279
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 2: but but he he runs the ball well, he has

2280
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:31,679
Speaker 2: really good vision, he has really good balance. He catches

2281
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 2: the ball better than most backs in the league. And

2282
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 2: I know that's probably hard to believe because he's a

2283
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 2: bigger guy. But I like him and his running style.

2284
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 2: And I mean, you know, obviously tre just brings a

2285
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 2: different a different, you know, strike mentality. He got a

2286
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 2: big play mentality. He's fast, he's a he's really really explosive.

2287
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 2: It reminds me of It reminds me a lot of

2288
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 2: Me and Dion, me and James type deal with me

2289
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 2: being with with me being top of those lists. Got

2290
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,640
Speaker 2: to tell my guys that they see this, I was.

2291
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 1: Gonna ask you just to you know, relive the glory

2292
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 1: days just a little bit.

2293
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 3: I obviously the Colt scams in the playoffs with you

2294
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 3: just going right down their throat. It's just how you know,

2295
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 3: big is that running game this time of year? Because

2296
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 3: you saw it on Sunday, the Patriots are getting their

2297
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 3: running game going a little bit just in time for

2298
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

2299
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 2: It's huge. It's huge, man. I talk about this on

2300
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 2: a on my podcast, the Money Down Podcast with James

2301
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 2: white Man. It is is you got to have a

2302
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: you gotta have a run game in the playoffs. You

2303
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 2: got to have the run game. Most places that you're

2304
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 2: going to play are probably going to be cold, you know,

2305
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 2: even even then, even if you go to Florida or

2306
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 2: anything like that, it's not going to be freezing, but

2307
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 2: it's still going to be sixty degrees, you know. So

2308
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 2: you got to be able to run the football, man,

2309
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 2: and and and that's huge. And I don't care how

2310
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 2: tough and strong and you know, grown man you are,

2311
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 2: you know, these guys still got to go out there

2312
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 2: and tackle you. And that's how That's where I think

2313
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 2: the Patriots have a huge advantage with with the with

2314
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 2: these two guys right here, and obviously Drake made playing

2315
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 2: out of the MVP level.

2316
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:56,680
Speaker 3: When you went into those cold scams, you knew they

2317
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 3: weren't going to be able to tackle you though, right Like,

2318
01:44:58,880 --> 01:44:59,919
Speaker 3: did you know you're gonna.

2319
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 2: Have The history says that I probably have my my

2320
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 2: best games in my career of the nine years that

2321
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 2: I played, no matter what team I was on, it

2322
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 2: was always against the coach. So I'm I'm going to

2323
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 2: give you guys a secret. I know guys say, oh man,

2324
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 2: the next game, next game, But I always went into

2325
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 2: that coach game feeling like I'm going to have a

2326
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 2: huge game.

2327
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:18,600
Speaker 4: Why was that?

2328
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 2: That's a good question, because they've had different coaches while

2329
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 2: I was there, and I just don't think that, you know,

2330
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,759
Speaker 2: the Coast organization haven't ever really been known for stopping

2331
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 2: the run. They've never really been known for being a

2332
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 2: defensive an organization. It's always been Peyton and Edgeran and

2333
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison and all these guys. Nobody ever really talked

2334
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 2: about like that defense. Yeah, he's a bad man though.

2335
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 2: That's probably the only guy that they really ever hear

2336
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 2: about on their defense.

2337
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 6: Want to with James White, and obviously there was a

2338
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:53,759
Speaker 6: pretty important touchdown that James s Gordon and the huge comeback.

2339
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 6: How how fat how long did it take you to

2340
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 6: get from the sideline to James White? Because that might

2341
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 6: have been as quick as I've ever seen you go?

2342
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 6: And Atlanta game, which game.

2343
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 2: The excitement was. The excitement was at at an all

2344
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 2: time high because of the because of the way the

2345
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 2: game went, So I was really excited for him. I

2346
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 2: didn't I'm pretty sure we went into that game. I

2347
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 2: want to say we were thinking about our game plan

2348
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 2: was running the football, you know, being able to run

2349
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 2: the football on these guys and obviously me being at

2350
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: me coughing it up in twelve, throwing the pick six

2351
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 2: and you know, put us in a bad position, So

2352
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 2: it puts it thrust James into a huge role kind

2353
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 2: of like what Shane was doing for us in the

2354
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, except a lot. So I was extremely happy

2355
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 2: for him because before then, I don't know if he

2356
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 2: had had any kind of game of that magnitude before,

2357
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 2: and he had it in the biggest stage, So I

2358
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 2: was I was extremely excited for him. Man probably got there,

2359
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 2: probably so as he crossed the goal line, I started running.

2360
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 2: I don't I don't even I don't even remember. As

2361
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 2: soon as he stretched the ball oue and across the

2362
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 2: goal line, I probably start running on.

2363
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 1: Is that your most amazing NFL memory or is there

2364
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: a on that top? Sett not be Super Bowl fifty ten?

2365
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 2: It's okay, I will say I will say that my

2366
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 2: New England Super bowls were both significant because of because

2367
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 2: of how they went right. The interception to end the

2368
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 2: game James White and overtime like those are those are

2369
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 2: going to be sketched in history for the rest of

2370
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl history. But personally, my best performance was the next,

2371
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 2: you know, my last That was my best performance. So

2372
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 2: I did have a lot of fun in that game.

2373
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 2: It was bitter sweet But.

2374
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:38,639
Speaker 7: What's it like going into that game for you knowing

2375
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 7: having been with the Patriots and what it's going to take.

2376
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 7: This is a team that's played in a bunch of

2377
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 7: Super Bowls. Like, what are you saying to the guys

2378
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 7: and on the Eagles when you're going into that game.

2379
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give them as much game as

2380
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 2: possible to know that, Like, bro, no matter what we

2381
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 2: think this is going to be, it is not going

2382
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 2: to be like we've been beating a lot of teams

2383
01:47:58,160 --> 01:47:59,680
Speaker 2: by a lot of points. We've been blowing a lot

2384
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 2: of teams out. I promise you, it's not gonna be

2385
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: like this. And they were just like, man, we you

2386
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 2: know a lot of guys like man, we're nice. Bro,

2387
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 2: Like we're nice like that. That old school version of

2388
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 2: football is over. Listen to me. I promise you, guys,

2389
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 2: it's not going to be what you're seeing.

2390
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: What you like, but anyone expected, I mean, it was

2391
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 1: just back and forth.

2392
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 2: Well they quickly understood, you know, you got to score.

2393
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 2: You had to score forty one points to win that game,

2394
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So they they once once

2395
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 2: they started like going back and forth and things like that.

2396
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: You know.

2397
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 2: They was like, you know, obviously y'all had to play

2398
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,600
Speaker 2: well twelve, drop the touchdown or drop the past or

2399
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 2: whatever on our sideline. Guys are like, bro, he dropped that.

2400
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 2: Oh it's all now, And I'm like, bro, only you

2401
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 2: guys were ever there. You know what I'm saying, it's

2402
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 2: never not never over never on his back.

2403
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Then you guys hit the Philly Special too, which which

2404
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:56,719
Speaker 1: was a penalty.

2405
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 2: By the way, we can what do you call it

2406
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:04,520
Speaker 2: a conspiracy?

2407
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 1: We can say that now. It's like the.

2408
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 2: Actually, that's actually the first time I ever even Oh

2409
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 2: you're talking about in the back of it, you're talking

2410
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 2: about the catch.

2411
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm talking about the Special Formation, our formation.

2412
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have heard that.

2413
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: And it also wasn't a catch like we can go

2414
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 1: there too, but you know, was not you know your calls.

2415
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, I have to I'm kind of a rough bashler though, so.

2416
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 2: I'm on that level with you. But I'm gonna I

2417
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 2: ain't gonna take it too far. They might not let

2418
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 2: me on the field.

2419
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: So you're doing the podcast with with sweet Feet, yes, sir?

2420
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 1: And and uh when does that come out? How often?

2421
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:50,560
Speaker 1: Where can people find it?

2422
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 2: We shoot it? We shoot it once a week. It's

2423
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 2: usually on a Thursday. We started on at halftime for

2424
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 2: the Thursday night game, so we shoot shoot it every week.

2425
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 2: It's called the Money Down Podcast Every Thursday. Meet James White, Soir,

2426
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 2: Jorne and Warren. It's I mean, it's it's an amazing

2427
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 2: it's an amazing time. This is kind of my first

2428
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 2: time deviling into like a weekly show of my own

2429
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 2: outside of like working with a network, and man, it's

2430
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 2: it's it's really fun. I really enjoy it. And I

2431
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 2: we were talking up to a couple of people about like,

2432
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 2: you know, bringing it to a couple of different places,

2433
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 2: but I've talked to nets and stuff like that. But man,

2434
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 2: we really enjoy it. Man, it's fun.

2435
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. And like you mentioned, like it's just like kind

2436
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 1: of sitting around the bar and talking sports.

2437
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 2: That's it. Yes, yes, sports, and I mean even even

2438
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 2: other things we talk. I mean we talked about you know,

2439
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 2: basketball or you know, DK Metcalfs, interaction with the fan

2440
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 2: and you know all those you know, we talk about

2441
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything on there.

2442
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 6: It's just like this show only Fred brings up like appliances,

2443
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 6: you know, lawnmowers, you need, you.

2444
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Know, advice like you know which lawnmower to buy or

2445
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: wash your just I'm your guys.

2446
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how to get my goal cart,

2447
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 2: how to get my kid go cart running. You'll got

2448
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 2: any advice for me on that? They don't have a card?

2449
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 2: All right?

2450
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 6: Do we let him go without asking some presence of

2451
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 6: Drake Maye? Just like everything okay that's gone on?

2452
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, ask me, man. I'm a huge Drake

2453
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 2: may fan and I'm on that train. I'm on that train. Man.

2454
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 2: He's played out and at an immaculate level. The jump

2455
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 2: is the jump that he's made is I mean, it's unbelievable.

2456
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 2: He does everything right. I mean, he's put a team

2457
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 2: in regardless and I know that. I know people talk

2458
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 2: about the schedule and all that. Man, listen, everybody got

2459
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 2: to go lin and play football. It don't matter who

2460
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 2: you play against, and you don't pick who you play against, right,

2461
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 2: They got to come out there and try to win

2462
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 2: and put their their team in the same position that

2463
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 2: we're trying to put our team in. And they got

2464
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 2: a quarterback and we got a quarterback. And at the

2465
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 2: end of the day day our quarterback won fourteen of

2466
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 2: those games and you know whoever we played against, it't. Yeah,

2467
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 2: so it is what it is. He's I think he

2468
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 2: has played. He's the biggest impact on any team as

2469
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 2: a quarterback that I that I can see.

2470
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right answer, Yeah he is.

2471
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 2: He's a bad man, bro.

2472
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,560
Speaker 1: Obvious, and I think it is, like you said, the

2473
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: biggest impact on a team.

2474
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yesh, I'm with you on that. And I mean,

2475
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 2: despite you know, whoever else I guess they're saying he's

2476
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 2: running against where I think it's bow Nigs or some

2477
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 2: you know, Stafford, Yeah, Stafford. I mean he's good. He's good.

2478
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a Hall of Fame quarterback. But yeah,

2479
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 2: he Nah. I feel like you can put somebody else

2480
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 2: in there, a lot of people. Yeah, you can put

2481
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 2: someone else in there for the Rams, and they're still

2482
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 2: gonna throw it the pooka and they're still going to

2483
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 2: throw it to Devonte Adams and they're still going to

2484
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 2: hand it off to Karen Williams and Blake Courtum and

2485
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 2: man nah nah Drake cut, Drake clean and cut.

2486
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well listen, we appreciate you.

2487
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 2: Coming by, yes, sir man, thank you guys for having

2488
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 2: me players. Just my first time ever being here. I

2489
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 2: don't know how the neighborhood I feel welcome.

2490
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't leave here, but they tell us we

2491
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 1: have to stay here all day.

2492
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2493
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey man, what's what's your favorite call? On the call?

2494
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 1: What do you got power? Power for?

2495
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 2: Andre?

2496
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 3: His touchdown was two back power here the full back

2497
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 3: in the backfield, pull the guard.

2498
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

2499
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 2: I searched down against the coach because I think it

2500
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 2: was like starving for something yards Yeah, hour the best.

2501
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 1: All right, all right, Garrett Blunt, everybody appreciate you coming in.

2502
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 1: It's great to meet you.

2503
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 2: All right.

2504
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 1: That was cool.

2505
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 6: Four touchdowns, that's fun. Yeah. Four. Yeah.

2506
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring out Super Bowl fifty two

2507
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 1: and it just came out. Well, let's good memory for him, right.

2508
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 6: I just think it's an interesting perspective. He's talking about

2509
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 6: sort of aura that that Tom had and now him

2510
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 6: trying to make sure he got that through to his

2511
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 6: team when he was there the next year.

2512
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of interesting.

2513
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 6: Person.

2514
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 7: I love that no matter what you think the game's

2515
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 7: going to be like, and how many playoff games have

2516
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 7: you watched where we talk all week about one thing?

2517
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 7: And I mean I've only done two playoff games where

2518
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 7: we talked about everything, but it's like, you know what,

2519
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 7: generally speaking, just how you feel going into a game,

2520
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 7: and then it's like, I didn't know this was going

2521
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:31,559
Speaker 7: to be a turnover fest or you know that kind

2522
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 7: of thing.

2523
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 6: Like Mike and I were talking in the post game

2524
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 6: of about, you know, the matchups with the Chargers receivers,

2525
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 6: and you know, Mike and I kind of disagreed on

2526
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 6: We're s yeah, Alan and Johnstin and and then I'm

2527
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 6: just like looking, I'm like, like, it's not really worth

2528
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 6: getting into. They probably just end up playing zone like

2529
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 6: they've been doing like for large chunks of the year.

2530
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 6: Who knows what they're going to do.

2531
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 7: So that's what I was thinking too, pot when I

2532
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 7: was watching my stupid third downs last night, and it

2533
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 7: was just like, you know, so many bunch sets where

2534
01:54:58,320 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 7: it's like how many.

2535
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 1: Actual are you? Like, great, here, everybody's wind up, You're here,

2536
01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 1: you're here, You're you know.

2537
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 7: I mean, there's definitely a chunk, but it's not like

2538
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 7: eighty percent of the snaps we're just oh, we're gonna

2539
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 7: man him up, you know.

2540
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 1: It's it's it's more the nuance of the there's a

2541
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 1: lot of conversation.

2542
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:17,840
Speaker 3: We talked to Ashton Grant, the Patriots quarterbacks coach, about

2543
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 3: progression reads the other day. The flip side of that

2544
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 3: is traveling corners with receivers, and a lot of the

2545
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 3: defensive coaches say it's it's actually like it's the juice

2546
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 3: isn't worth the squeeze because it might be easier for

2547
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 3: that one guy who's traveling with it, but the trickle

2548
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 3: down effect that it has on the other ten guys

2549
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 3: on the field, it actually makes everybody else's job harder

2550
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 3: because now you have you know, maybe Gonzo's traveling inside

2551
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 3: with lad Butconky, So now you're playing somebody on the

2552
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 3: outside who's not used to playing on the outside, and

2553
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 3: now he's got to play over there. And so there's

2554
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 3: a lot of conversations now about that and whether or not,

2555
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 3: you know, it's actually worth it to travel This.

2556
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 1: Is his own game, I think. I think it is

2557
01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: only because of what Paul brought up. It's a balanced

2558
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 1: team and like, yeah, you got to cover the whole field.

2559
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 6: I'm just going off of what they've done during the year.

2560
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 6: The three of us, I think would all be in agreement.

2561
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 6: We kind of in the back of our minds wondered

2562
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 6: if when the games start to become a little bit

2563
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:14,840
Speaker 6: more important, if you see a little bit more man,

2564
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 6: Mike and I would just sort of go We agreed,

2565
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 6: you know, probably Marcus with Lad McConkie. Yeah, But then

2566
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 6: I kind of I think you mentioned this earlier. I

2567
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 6: kind of thought Carlton Davis, m Keenan Allen and Gonzo

2568
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 6: with Johnston with this, you know, the bigger, speedier guy,

2569
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 6: and Mike had it the opposite. So I mean, I

2570
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 6: don't know if they're gonna go man, if they you

2571
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 6: know how much they're gonna go man.

2572
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: But my guess is that like they could play man.

2573
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of it is going to

2574
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 3: be just kind of stagged insides of like you guys,

2575
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 3: whoever lines up across from you, who ever comes out

2576
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 3: that side of the formation, because the chargers will motion

2577
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 3: McConkie a decent amount too, so they'll put him in

2578
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 3: motion and move him around, So instead of having Marcus

2579
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 3: Jones having to chase him, you know, all around the field,

2580
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 3: it might be better to just say, hey, you guys,

2581
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, stay on your sides, and whoever comes out

2582
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 3: your side.

2583
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 1: That's that's the guy you got.

2584
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 7: I mean, when you were saying your last thing at

2585
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 7: all I can think of is now you've got Marcus

2586
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 7: Jones lineup outside in a smart offensive corner. Is gonna

2587
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 7: get Quentin Johnson out there and say, hey, Quentin, you

2588
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 7: got about seven inches on this guy.

2589
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 1: Run down the field. We're gonna chuck it.

2590
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 2: Up to you.

2591
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, quickly, We'll get a couple of people

2592
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 1: off the call screen.

2593
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 6: Here.

2594
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 1: I've been waiting patiently, Ed and san Diego. What's up?

2595
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 6: Ed?

2596
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 1: You hate the charges because they left San Diego? Ed,

2597
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 1: Oh we waited, Okay, well you waited. Hey one more

2598
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: Dan in California? What's up Dan?

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Speaker 2: Bill?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Hey good? What's up?

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Speaker 17: So?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I wanted to talk.

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Speaker 16: I know you guys have been talking about MVP, but

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Speaker 16: you know, really I can't really let it go.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 18: People on social media are just like crazy.

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Speaker 16: Just the way just how they try to, you know,

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Speaker 16: get Matthew Stafford and and bring down Drake May. But yeah,

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Speaker 16: I feel like the argument is really just heading towards

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Speaker 16: a legacy reward for for Matthew Stafford, and I feel

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Speaker 16: like Drake May like everybody wants to talk about a schedule,

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Speaker 16: but I mean if you compare his schedule to common

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Speaker 16: opponents with Matthew Stafford, Like I think Drake is like

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Speaker 16: six and zero and I think Matt Stafford's like four

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Speaker 16: and two.

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Speaker 6: Yep, I don't really understand.

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Speaker 16: But yeah, there's like a stat that I've seen the

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Speaker 16: other day too, and it was like the MVPs that

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Speaker 16: have won since twenty thirteen, which was twenty and thirteen

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Speaker 16: was Payton Manning. Every single MVP is one that has

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Speaker 16: been the number one or the two seed. And I

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Speaker 16: feel like it's very important regardless if you want to

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Speaker 16: talk about schedule or not. You know, he did make

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Speaker 16: one is the two seed. One's the fifth seed, you know,

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Speaker 16: And I just wanted to get your guys' opinion on that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think none of that matters to me.

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Speaker 1: Perple, Well, what does matter to you?

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Speaker 6: That may had a better year with west talent? Okay,

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Speaker 6: in my opinion, that's just my opinion. Might pick because

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Speaker 6: I felt like he played better with less talent around him, like.

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Speaker 1: Elevated around because of that play, they became the two seed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, but because you can you want to

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Speaker 6: nitpick these arguments like that, Yeah, and we're gonna go

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Speaker 6: common opponents. Well, how did May do against Seattle twice?

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Speaker 1: You didn't play right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, best defense in football, number one seed in the NFC,

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Speaker 6: and Stafford had to play him twice and wanted something.

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Speaker 6: He tore him apart and he lost. So that means

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Speaker 6: you're the fifth seed instead of the one seed. Threw

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Speaker 6: for four hundred and eighty yards that night. That's why

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Speaker 6: I don't do that game. I think I just think

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Speaker 6: they played better. That's why I pick him.

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Speaker 1: Is to me, is just like a chicken or the egg.

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Speaker 3: Like, if you have a quarterback that's up for MVP,

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Speaker 3: you probably are going to be winning a lot of

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Speaker 3: games because your quarterback is up for MVP, right.

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Speaker 10: But I don't.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, I don't say like twelve and five

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Speaker 6: with the Rams schedule and fourteen and three with May's schedule, Oh,

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Speaker 6: Stafford's was more more impressive. No, I just think May

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Speaker 6: played better. That's what I'm judging it on in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I know, But like when you're making this vote,

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Speaker 1: you have to look at those details. You have to

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Speaker 1: come up with the reasons why one guy edges out

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Speaker 1: the other guy, and and then you get into the nitpicking.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what happens.

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Speaker 6: But do you think, I mean, in all honesty, if

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Speaker 6: you think the Rams were in the AFC East this

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Speaker 6: year and played the Patriots schedule, you think they would

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Speaker 6: have gone fourteen and three. No, Okay, I'm really kidding,

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Speaker 6: but I'm being serious, Like that's why I don't play

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Speaker 6: the whole I can't give it to a team that

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Speaker 6: had a five seed. But but now you want to

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Speaker 6: tell me I can't give it to a team that

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Speaker 6: finished seven and ten.

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Speaker 1: But even in that argument, Paul, you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: whole team. There's no doubt that the Rams have a

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Speaker 1: talented team. That's the point. That's why has the edge, Right,

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Speaker 1: you got the number two seed.

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Speaker 3: All this other stuff has just created a whole lot

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Speaker 3: of noise about this, the whole MVP discussion where it's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, the pro May people are talking about Stafford's

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Speaker 3: one yard touchdowns and the anti may people are talking

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Speaker 3: about mazie schedule.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't this all just kind of like they each have

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Speaker 1: like these you know.

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Speaker 3: Context caveats, and like just look at it straight up,

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Speaker 3: and who had the better season?

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Speaker 1: And it was Drake May, and I would.

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Speaker 6: Just look at it like that's your opinion, like whatever

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Speaker 6: you deem important.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like the caller came in.

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Speaker 6: He thinks it's important that it needs to be a

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Speaker 6: number one or number two seed that so his pick

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Speaker 6: is going to be waited on that. I don't look

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Speaker 6: at that important. I look at it more important as

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Speaker 6: May doesn't have pooka nakula and that really weighs heavily

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Speaker 6: for me. And that's what I'm basing my view.

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Speaker 1: It'll come down to the fact that they hate us,

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Speaker 1: and that's fine. That's the way it was amazing. I

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Speaker 1: am going to have a victory rap if Drake May

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Speaker 1: wins the m v P.

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Speaker 6: The amount of catterwauling that has gone on around New

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Speaker 6: England for the last month and a half, if May

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Speaker 6: wins this and the amount of crying.

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Speaker 1: It's always about the amount of bitching about. It's always

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Speaker 1: the it's it's there, it's this.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna give him a lifetime achievement of that day.

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Speaker 1: My eight.

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Speaker 6: If somebody called in and said, what if they snub

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Speaker 6: him for these Super Bowls?

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Speaker 1: Like talk about blaming people for things that haven't happened.

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Speaker 5: Yet.

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Speaker 1: All right, they might give it to seppeaking of things

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Speaker 1: that haven't happened yet. Tomorrow's show. We'll be back at noon,

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Speaker 1: catch twenty two at tomorrow. How's Barth doing. Bar's doing good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's doing good. He's recovered from all his holiday gigs

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Speaker 1: and all that. Oh yeah, he's recovered.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna he's doing four hours on Sunday, kickoff on

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Speaker 3: Sunday morning. Okay, and maybe somebody might be making a

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Speaker 3: surprise appearance.

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Speaker 1: Really about it? All right, that's good, all right, thanks

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Speaker 1: for watching today. We'll see you tomorrow. Hey, this is Alex.

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