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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Lucas Nelson.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing long with you. I'm just playing in

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Speaker 2: lone with you.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm Nora, and with me as

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Speaker 1: always is Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Today, our guest is Lucas Nelson. Incredible Nelson, incredible musician, songwriter,

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Speaker 1: all around human.

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Speaker 5: Seriously, he's like as genuine as they come. He's the

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Speaker 5: frontman of Lucas Nelson and Promise of the Real, who

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Speaker 5: have released several albums. But they have also backed the

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Speaker 5: legendary Neil Young, which is one of the times that

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Speaker 5: we saw him.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we saw that tour. It was amazing, Yes, them

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Speaker 1: playing with Neil.

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Speaker 5: It was great when Puss and Boots opened for them,

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Speaker 5: and I think that was twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I opened for him on last tour. That

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Speaker 1: was so fun. That was the first time I played

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Speaker 1: drums on stage. Was opening for Neil Young, which is silly, insane.

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Speaker 1: Promise of the Real was also the band in A

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Speaker 1: Star Is Born that backed up Bradley Cooper's character.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was hired as the like authenticity consultant. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: which love that title.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun title, and it's also a great thing

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Speaker 1: to have on a music film because usually they do

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Speaker 1: not seem authentic. No, this one really did, and it

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Speaker 1: was so great.

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Speaker 5: I agree. That's why. You know, it's hard to remake

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Speaker 5: a movie and have it be as good as the original,

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Speaker 5: but I feel like they kind of nailed it.

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Speaker 1: It was its own thing. Yeah, Yeah, it was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I first met Lucas in two thousand and three when

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Speaker 1: he was a young man running around the aisles at

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Speaker 1: the Ryman Theater in Nashville, and I was there to

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Speaker 1: play for his dad's seventieth birthday.

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Speaker 5: His dad, Willie Nelson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's you know, it goes way back. It's

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Speaker 1: really sweet to see him grow and become amazing musician,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you'll hear all about that, some stories of

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Speaker 5: heartache and a song he wrote when he was ten

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Speaker 5: years old.

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Speaker 1: Oh that song is so cute. That song is so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: We had some really fun moments in this episode that

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Speaker 1: it didn't expect, and we had a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: playing together. I've played with him maybe here or there,

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Speaker 1: but not like this. Maybe we were in a chorus

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Speaker 1: of some all you know, like tribute show or something,

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Speaker 1: but never this intimate. Yeah, so this was really fun

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Speaker 1: to finally play together and felt so like family.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a true sweetheart.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy the show today with Lucas Nelson.

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Speaker 4: I want two, three four.

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Speaker 6: Your head is spinning and you don't know.

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Speaker 3: Your heart is heavy.

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Speaker 7: You can't see the sky. I know you love me,

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Speaker 7: but you still kind of need a mystery, and I

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Speaker 7: can't switch to any speed you need.

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Speaker 3: Just say the word and I will slow.

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Speaker 7: My feet and let me tell you I can ease

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Speaker 7: aly be a mystery. I was working on you over

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Speaker 7: time just to show you I could stay in line

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Speaker 7: with all you need, but I can always.

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Speaker 8: Be a mystery.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna trust that sparkle in your eyes, and I

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Speaker 7: won't listen to the darkness in my mind. The only

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Speaker 7: thing I'll ever need.

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Speaker 6: From you is honesty.

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Speaker 7: So let me take you too, love so free. It's

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Speaker 7: something beautiful you really gotta see.

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Speaker 3: Then maybe someday we all.

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Speaker 6: Need a mystery.

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Speaker 7: I was working on you all the time just to

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Speaker 7: but I can always.

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Speaker 9: Be your mystery.

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Speaker 3: I was working on you over time.

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Speaker 7: Just to sure you that I could stay in life

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Speaker 10: A mystery, a mystery perfect.

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Speaker 4: That was great, Pretty, that was pretty. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I love that song.

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Speaker 4: I wrote that when I was seventeen. Really yeah, I

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Speaker 4: was a lot of these songs that I released with

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Speaker 1: A long time before, and you wanted to give them

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Speaker 1: another chance to sort of shine exactly. Wow, I didn't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like find yourself I wrote when I was really young.

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Speaker 1: And really yeah, how young?

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Speaker 4: Oh, nineteen twenty, you know, young, but mystery. I was, yeah,

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Speaker 4: around eighteen seventeen or eighteen, and it was this my

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Speaker 4: and there's a lot of you know, push and pull

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, eighteen, that sounds about right.

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Speaker 4: Oh, but I was such I had come from Maui

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Speaker 4: you know, and like heart on my sleeve didn't have

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Speaker 4: you know. I went to LA and I was like

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Speaker 4: environments to like parties and weirdness and that I'm sure

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Speaker 4: you know, college, and you know, and luckily I met

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Speaker 4: some of the great people that are still in my life,

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Speaker 4: but but.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of others.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of distraction. Yeah, I've craziness. And

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Speaker 4: so when I got there and I was like, uh

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Speaker 4: I scared the ship out of her at first, because

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Speaker 1: Like the best intention totally.

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Speaker 4: I was like, that's what you're supposed to do when

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Speaker 4: you're in love, you know. I forgot that, Like no,

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Speaker 4: you shouldn't you shouldn't persist if somebody like as soon

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Speaker 1: Normally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, because I guess, like I was eventually she

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Speaker 4: twenty five and I was just a kid, and I

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Speaker 4: And so as soon as I became a mystery. I

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Speaker 4: And that's what I did. And we were together for

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Speaker 1: And the true though, there's just something about that.

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Speaker 4: Well, and it wasn't that I was playing a game.

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Speaker 1: You're just like, Okay, I was.

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Speaker 4: Just letting it go for real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It only works when it's real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, no, games don't work.

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Speaker 4: No, games don't work. It's only when you're actually okay

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Speaker 4: can really like connect with someone else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's interesting is that the first.

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Speaker 1: Okay with yourself alone because you had been with your family.

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Speaker 4: I'd been with my family my whole time. I had

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Speaker 4: probably abandonment stuff going on, like I wanted, you know,

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Speaker 4: I probably projected a lot of my own missing that

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Speaker 1: It was left.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I had left home, I had left the nest.

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Speaker 1: And so to speak, and I needed something to hold

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, And so that was a lot I wrote

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Speaker 4: albums of material for her.

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Speaker 1: Alone, and have you since used it all? Because there's

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Speaker 1: some good stuff in there, yeah, and distributed it sort of.

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, I mean there's there's art. I have hundreds

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Speaker 4: that like, I don't think I could go there without

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Speaker 4: rebreaking my heart. Wow, you know what I mean, And

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Speaker 4: it would do you know, it would be really tough

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Speaker 4: let life do it.

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Speaker 1: You're older, so you could never probably get your heart

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Speaker 1: broken in quite down the same way, right Yeah, Oh god,

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Speaker 1: now you're bringing me back. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean it's and I'm lucky. I feel

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Speaker 4: like that I had that the the tools to express it,

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Speaker 4: and of course for you too, yeah, you know. And

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Speaker 4: and and to be able to to document that time

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Speaker 4: period for my soul, yeah, you know, where like it

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Speaker 4: was almost like I could snap a picture of it

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Speaker 4: remember who I was back then and and never lose it.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty great way, I know what you mean.

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Speaker 1: I like that about music. It's a snapshot of where

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Speaker 4: It's your soul right then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're honest, if you're writing for if you're

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Speaker 4: writing soul music, you know, if you're writing music about life,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, real.

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Speaker 1: Things, and most people are. But some people, well you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot more gloss over it.

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Speaker 4: Well, and the intention for some is to sell records

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Speaker 4: over you know what I mean. Like a lot of

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Speaker 4: times people will sit down, like, let's write a hit.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 1: I've heard of those, Yes, I've heard of those sessions,

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Speaker 1: which is great and fun.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I remember reading a snippet about Prince how Prince

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Speaker 4: had told I think Madonna or someone else, he said,

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Speaker 4: why don't you sit and try and write a song.

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Speaker 4: You've already written your soul out, you know, why don't

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Speaker 4: you try and write a song and just write a hit?

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Speaker 4: See how it's out?

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Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, And so would she write.

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Speaker 4: She probably wrote a huge, you know hit.

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Speaker 1: You know that's good advice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is. I mean it's sort of

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Speaker 4: like if you can do both you're well rounded, so

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Speaker 4: to speak. You know, if you know how to write

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Speaker 4: that into a sort of fun, relatable song. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: you're in a good place because sometimes I'd write songs

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Speaker 4: back then with no intention of it being any type

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Speaker 4: of hit. It was just like, I mean, sometimes they

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Speaker 4: course it's just poetry at that point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do you write poetry also, I do? You

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Speaker 4: I write a lot of lyrics, but they're always sort

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Speaker 4: Now I have a song.

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Speaker 1: That's funny.

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And I get really into that, especially live so

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Speaker 1: You don't want to get in your head about it, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Because then I'll be, oh, I miss my routine today,

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Speaker 4: So he played with Neil Yea. He warms up half

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Speaker 1: I think as you get older, you kind of have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I've definitely got more of a routine than

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Speaker 4: It was a lot, but yeah, yeah, with Neil, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't do it every time.

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Speaker 4: But I don't do it every time, not on my own.

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Speaker 4: Only when we're playing as Neil's band do we do that.

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Speaker 1: That's also something that is nice, yes, yeah, yeah, because

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Speaker 4: You know what, even now that I think about it,

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Speaker 4: That's a great idea. I was just thinking about that

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Speaker 7: Actually, Yeah, I think there will be peace in the

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Speaker 4: Wh Yeah yeah, Oh my goodness, and that whole Soulstirs records.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's more. Oh So did you.

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Speaker 1: Did you have any doubt that that's what you were

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Speaker 4: And my mom was really strongly yeah for me going

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Speaker 1: It went for music there.

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Speaker 4: I was an English major and then music.

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Speaker 1: Minor, trying to get the writing in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Two years?

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Speaker 1: I studied music. I mean I studied jazz, so right,

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Didn't then I kind of quit playing jazz.

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Speaker 4: Did you grow up learning like and because your father's

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Speaker 1: Yes. I grew up with my mom in Texas. I

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Speaker 4: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: But I learned piano and theory, and I was really

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Speaker 4: Did you go to church?

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Speaker 4: like he's like spiritual and grew up Christian, so loves

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00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 4: gospel music and loves gospel music. We just did a record,

453
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: you know, we just did a gospel sort of record together.

454
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Speaker 1: I love it.

455
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's really into gospel, and so am I, by

456
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 4: the way, just because it makes me feel.

457
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: I feel like, in the last three years or five years,

458
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: I've written more gospel songs of my own than beautiful

459
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 1: And I'm like, where does that come from? I don't know.

460
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: I guess it's in there, you know. Yeah, it's me

461
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: from hoping and.

462
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and connecting to the grand orchestration of the universe.

463
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Speaker 1: Well, and like every time I see you, we talk

464
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Speaker 1: about meditation. We do, and I love that. And you're

465
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: always telling me, like cool podcast to listen to because

466
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, help me, let me meditate more. No, yeah,

467
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: but that has something to do with it all this.

468
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: It does grand spirituality and as you get older, it's

469
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: just so funny.

470
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Speaker 4: Well, I think, did you ever read Kurt Vonnegut's books?

471
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Speaker 1: Yes?

472
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Speaker 4: Do you know? Do you know like Cat's Cradle? Did

473
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: you read Cat's Cradle? I think, I think his whole religion,

474
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: I think it's bocon. It's like he cre made up

475
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: a religion that basically says, this religion is bullshit. It's

476
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: but this is the religion. And they they they it's brilliant.

477
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 4: It's actually a brilliant sort of study in his own

478
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 4: way of religion. And and it was banned by a

479
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 4: lot because of that whole. But a concept that I

480
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: love from from those books, and that kind of the

481
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: thread goes in a lot of his books is that

482
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 4: is of the Kirass, which is basically a cluster of

483
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: souls that in throughout eternity sort of every time they

484
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 4: manifest energetically in the material world, they find each other.

485
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and like you know, for whatever reason, and

486
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: these people are meant to come into each other's lives

487
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: and find each other.

488
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Speaker 1: And then you know, I've heard that through other Yeah,

489
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: it's called many different things.

490
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 4: It's called many soulmates or whatever. Yes, absolutely, yeah, I

491
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: kind of think so.

492
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: Yes, I've had a couple of run ins that I

493
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: was like whoa, yeah, I know.

494
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 4: You yeah, and you just feel like, oh you feel

495
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 4: like home, like you could just like sit for hours

496
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 4: and have tea and not feel the need to put

497
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: your guard up or yeah, you know you feel well.

498
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: Especially when I know somebody meditates and two I can

499
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 4: tell that they can get to a place that is

500
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 4: that is sort of unifying. Yes, that we all that

501
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 4: I can recognize that light of of oneness in you

502
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: that you see in me, that we both have been

503
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: to that place and know that it's beyond the physical form,

504
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: it's beyond the manifestations of who we are, you know.

505
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wish I had discovered it in

506
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: my early twenties. It would have been so helpful for me.

507
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Speaker 4: Well, the thing is you probably I feel that you

508
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 4: knew everybody kind of has that in them, and that's

509
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: why they gravitate towards certain things and away from others.

510
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, music is and music brings you there, it does.

511
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: But when did you start actually meditating? Not too long ago, Okay,

512
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: so it wasn't.

513
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

514
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: I met Bob Roth through a friend, and he's the

515
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 4: guy from the TM.

516
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the David Lynch Foundation.

517
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: David Lynch Foundation, and he lives out here in New York,

518
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: I think. And I would always sort of do yoga

519
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 4: or do like certain things here and there, but I

520
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: never had a practice.

521
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had trouble doing meditations in yoga because I

522
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: would get too distracted. And it wasn't until I started

523
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: doing TM that I kind of got the permission to

524
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: let my mind would wander. But it wasn't.

525
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: Necessarily good yeah, yeah, yeah, just letting it go. Yeah,

526
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: just but to know somebody can beat it in that place.

527
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: Is very comforting to be around them too, because you know, like, okay, yeah,

528
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: it's calming. It's calming. They're like, all right, you know,

529
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: this person's not like even if there's a lot going

530
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: on in their head, they know that there's a lot

531
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: going on in my head and that we both know

532
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 4: that it's all good.

533
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, nobody's going to explode.

534
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, it's like there's a place you can go

535
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: to to just you know, let it go under the water.

536
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: Do you have a hard time? Like for me sometimes

537
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: that's when I get song ideas and then I have

538
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: to stop and write them down. So oh yes, yes,

539
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: but you're not mad at it, you know, and you're

540
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: supposed to stop him do that? Can we do find yourself?

541
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: Is that okay? Okay? Can we just talk about Stars

542
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: Born for a second?

543
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: Wow?

544
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: It was great. I mean, I you know, I'm not

545
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: I didn't go in with a lot of expectations, but

546
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: I also I wasn't. I was excited for it, and

547
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: I was blown away how authentic it felt. And then

548
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: later I was reading that you were actually the authenticity.

549
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: That's what they hired me as.

550
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: It's great because everybody has should have done that who

551
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: made a music movie and they don't get it.

552
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bradley was very very.

553
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: It was so smart, beautiful. Yeah, it was very authentic.

554
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: He's a hard worker. And uh and you know, you

555
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: can tell he put a lot of time into singing.

556
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: We spent a lot of time. He really sounded good

557
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 4: and for someone who never really sang before, and you know,

558
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: and uh, and then he really got the mannerisms down.

559
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: And I was proud of the band. You know, we

560
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: we you know, we got to you know, it's nice

561
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: to hear my lick out there. Yeah, like I can't,

562
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't tell you how crazy it feels

563
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: to like here, you know. And then like, you know,

564
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: I turned I made that from a Claptain. I took

565
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: that from like because we were looking for an intro

566
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: for Shallow and she was asking me, so, how do

567
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: you want to you know, how should we do this?

568
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: And I said, well, what about Because I was listening

569
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 4: to a lot of yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that

570
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: changed the world. Lick, which actually came came right out

571
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: on a time when I was listening to your record.

572
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: Your records may have what did them know? It wouldn't

573
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: have been it would have been earlier than that.

574
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: I think it's earlier because I remember listening to that

575
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: stuff when I was in Texas.

576
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: Okay, so it was before your your your time, but

577
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 4: it was right to me all that times a blur anyway, Yeah,

578
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: I was like blur so then. But it's just so

579
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: cool to see the the that that you know that

580
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: they would think of taking a real band because Bradley

581
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: saw us with Neil and he was like, that's kind

582
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: of what I want for the band.

583
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how about you just take that exactly.

584
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 4: So it was a really smart thing.

585
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: It was beautiful and it was so well done, and

586
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: it just it was great. They captured all the real

587
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: stuff and the emotion. It was beautiful.

588
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: They're really great. It was a really cool thing and

589
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: they really had a lot of chemistry and.

590
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Speaker 1: They did Oh my god, I'm so sad. I couldn't

591
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: wait to watch it, but I I knew that I

592
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: couldn't get the time. I can't watch movies at home.

593
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: It's just it's a long movie too.

594
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: It's long, and you know, I'm already ready for bed

595
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: after the kids go to bed. But I had a flight.

596
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to watch this on a plane,

597
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: blast of wine in hand. I cried my eyes. That

598
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: was great. It was a great plane cry.

599
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: Yes, but I've seen it. I've seen a lot of

600
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: people watching it on planes too.

601
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

602
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: That's always a trip to Oh like you're you're sitting

603
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: in the seat and you're like, oh wow.

604
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, that's a trip. No, it's great. And so

605
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: so Lady Guy is incredible.

606
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: She's a voice.

607
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: She's she has an incredible voice. And I knew that already,

608
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: and I've seen her, you know, over the years, and

609
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: I get it. I get that she can kind of

610
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: do anything and that she's incredible. She's a great piano

611
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: player too.

612
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: She really is classically trained.

613
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

614
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: I saw her do something once and she was like

615
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, yeah, I like that, I do that. No,

616
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: but she sounds so good on this song. And I

617
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was her first Find Yourself. I think

618
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: I texted you. I was like, whoa, this is great.

619
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

620
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was Bonnie Rape for a second. So

621
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people on this she sounds a little

622
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: like Bonnie, but she still sounds like her. And once

623
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: I realized it with her, I was like, this is

624
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: totally her.

625
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's so great. Oh it was. It was

626
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: very kind of her to sing on it. It was nice.

627
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 4: It was cool, and she's you know, she killed it.

628
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: She did another song with us too, called Carolina Oh Cool,

629
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: which is about the Carolinas, which I really love.

630
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Speaker 1: That's nice.

631
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, let's yeah, let's do it.

632
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to do it, I'll do my best,

633
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga.

634
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: All right.

635
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Speaker 13: Four Well, I nor my sleep and alone.

636
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 7: It means I don't have to play your freeze.

637
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 6: It's a game.

638
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 12: Normal.

639
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Speaker 7: You're the most precious thing I've ever seen. But I

640
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 7: ain't gonna let its load your be me.

641
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 14: I know love the desert. Hope you found yourself.

642
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 11: Before somebody else to be my love.

643
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: I hope you find yourself.

644
00:35:48,960 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 15: Before somebody else to be my love. You tell me

645
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 15: things I want to hear, you want me hear, and

646
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 15: I know you fear me leave in you and you

647
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 15: think that I won't send goodbye Phoebe.

648
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 3: I standing by.

649
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 16: I want to stretch the truth and.

650
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: I know love that sir, you find yourself.

651
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 11: Before somebody to be my love.

652
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: I hope you find yourself.

653
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 6: Me for that.

654
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 11: Somebody else to be my love. I love love, I.

655
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 12: Know I know, I know.

656
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of like Benny and the Jets.

657
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to I was trying to do that,

658
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what's happening. I can't do it. No,

659
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: it's good, that's great. That's a jam.

660
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 4: That's a jam.

661
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

662
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 4: I hope you can come to a show of ours.

663
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: I will because like we get down on that one,

664
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: you have to come do it with us, and then

665
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: and then we have the girls sing it, and then

666
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: we have the guys sing it, and then it's like

667
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: really fun.

668
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 6: You know.

669
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: Well it's a great sentiment too.

670
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

671
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, from the beginning times in your life.

672
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: Totally right. Yes, that one was written about Georgia Okay,

673
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 4: the same girl I wrote Forget about Georgia.

674
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: I love that song too. Thanks, Yeah, it was sorry.

675
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: You know, we could stay here and play like a whole.

676
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: So it's like, I'm just I feel like I'm tickled

677
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: to death that you that you want to play these songs.

678
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: It's awesome. It's awesome.

679
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is I'm just having so much fun.

680
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: I love that song.

681
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 4: Thank you.

682
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: It's it's your story.

683
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: I believe it.

684
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: I'm just.

685
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 4: Say I saw you opening for a dad A long

686
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:43,959
Speaker 4: time ago.

687
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 17: You know.

688
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to talk to you about that because

689
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: the first time I met your dad was in two

690
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: thousand and two and it was at the film More.

691
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: I was opening for him.

692
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

693
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I feel like the first time I

694
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: remember meeting you or seeing you was that year and

695
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: it was at his seventieth birthday party at the Ryman

696
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: at the Yeah, and you and Micah were running around

697
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: the aisles.

698
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we must have been young. You were young.

699
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, crazy to.

700
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: Think seventieth, that would mean that was.

701
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: In two thousand and two.

702
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would have been let's see, I was it.

703
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: Was in two thousand and two, Okay, yeah.

704
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 4: I was eighty eight. Well I was born, so I know,

705
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: math come on fourteen years old.

706
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were young. And I was like, oh cool

707
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: Willie's sons. Yeah yeah, and Annie, I met your mom

708
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: and it.

709
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: Was Ray Charles there, I think he.

710
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: Was yes, and I was just like my record had

711
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: just come out. I was like the kind of unknown

712
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: one on the bill, and I was like a scared

713
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: little chicken, but I was, you know, thrilled to be there.

714
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 4: The most beautiful, scared little chicken.

715
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: Scary little chicken, but I remember, yeah, my bass player

716
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: who was my boyfriend at the time, Lee Alexander, had

717
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: written a song called Lone Star that was on my

718
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: first album, and so we sang Lone Star with Willie,

719
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: which made sense for obvious reasons. R Ex's but yeah,

720
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: that star, that's right, I remember that. But I remember, yeah,

721
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: I remember you guys running around the aisles and yeah, just.

722
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: Be like, oh cool, yeah, oh we we're clueless.

723
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

724
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: I was wondering about that, Like, when you were growing up,

725
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: did you take guitar lessons ever? Did your mom ever

726
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: get your music lessons or you just kind of learned

727
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: by watching by doing.

728
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 17: Yes.

729
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: I well, luckily by that time I had gotten the

730
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: spark the bite of music for whatever reason, but my

731
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: parents never forced it or begged me to do it.

732
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: In fact, fourteen I was I still think at that

733
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: time I had my dream was to be in the Olympics.

734
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 4: I was a swimmer, really a fast swimmer, oh wow.

735
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: And so at that time I think I placed in

736
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 4: the top ten in Hawaii and one of the races

737
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: that I got and I was like, all right, I'm

738
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 4: going to do this and this is my dream and

739
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: I'm going to I was watching the Olympics and I'm

740
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 4: going to be But when music took over, it seemed more.

741
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: I didn't like the competitiveness of swimming. It was just

742
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 4: too much of a like me against you thing.

743
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: Well that's like how else you just do it for

744
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: enjoyment or you compete basically, right, Yeah, yeah, I And

745
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: it was like two and a half hours after school

746
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: every day, and it's like, you know, so when music

747
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: started to creep in, I started to really find that, oh, well,

748
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: I can do this for the rest of my life

749
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: till I'm eighty eight or more, you know.

750
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if I keep myself healthy, then it just

751
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: seemed like a better.

752
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: Path, you know, ultimately, well more fun, more fun. Do

753
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: you still swim though? Do you like to stay in

754
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: hotels with pools?

755
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 4: And No, I don't swim a lot when I'm on

756
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 4: the road actually at all.

757
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: It's interesting.

758
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to surf and swim when I'm home,

759
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: but no more. It's more like in the room I

760
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: get exercise. Sometimes I'll go for a run, but my

761
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: knees are having issues these days. A bike, I mean,

762
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: I'm actually in the process of getting a bike now

763
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: and I'm going to start because I like to explore. Two.

764
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 4: When I'm in a.

765
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: New place, Well, that's the best thing to do.

766
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like when we're in Boston, we had a great time.

767
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: Recently we went out and went biking along the Charles

768
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: River as a band and so fun.

769
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're on the road, it's just the best. Yeah.

770
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: Do you always travel by bus if you can?

771
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't like to fly.

772
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't like to fly, but I mean you're also

773
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: you come from a quite famous bus family, tour bus.

774
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: I still have. We still have the bus that I

775
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: grew up on. Yeah, now I take out and then

776
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: we have another one too.

777
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: Now, you know, it's funny. Once I was introduced to

778
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: the tour bus. It also my record came out right

779
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: after nine to eleven, so flying was just not easy,

780
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: you know. And I was so in love with the

781
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: tour bus. And my dad, who you know, to also

782
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: played until he was well. He died at ninety two,

783
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: amazing and he was still playing. But his whole life

784
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: he had toured and flown a lot. But in his eighties.

785
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: I remember he came to see me once we were

786
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: on our tour bus showing him around and they're like, wow,

787
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: this is kind of a good idea, and he it

788
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: was like the first time he'd gotten a tour bus.

789
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: After that, Yes, wow, because it's so much easier.

790
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: In some ways, it's like being on a private plane.

791
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean, not everybody do it, but like it's just

792
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: so much easier. So he did the tour bus thing

793
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: after that. I thought that was so sweet.

794
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: It's luxury and my no, I mean, you know, I mean,

795
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: there's it's one thing. When we were first starting out,

796
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 4: you know, we went from van to r V and

797
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 4: then sort of graduated to the bus.

798
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: Well, yeah you're lucky if you get a bus.

799
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're lucky. Yeah you get a bus. But I

800
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: mean Robbie was at that point of pretty well known

801
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: and an established musician.

802
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: Right, oh, absolutely, But I mean he would still do

803
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: you know one offs, It wasn't like the most economical

804
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: routing when you're, you know, in your eighties, you can't

805
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: just hit it five days in a row. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

806
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: it was kind of funny. That is funny they got

807
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: on the tour bus once.

808
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: So how old was he when he got his first buss?

809
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying I don't I don't know.

810
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: I got to ask my stomach. I don't know that

811
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: it was actually his first bus ever, but I kind

812
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: of feel like it might have been. I just think

813
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: they had a different way of doing it. They had

814
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: never you know.

815
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 4: Well, and it's a lot more difficult overseas, Yeah, because

816
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 4: you know, you're you're, you're sort of like the whole

817
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: bus situation out there is kind of crazy.

818
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: Well, in Europe it's kind of nice.

819
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Europe, you can go through you know, different countries

820
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: and everything.

821
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can go through, if.

822
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: You can get through the customs and you know, but

823
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: it's it's more complicated. You have to get on ferries

824
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: to go across channels and do.

825
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: You know, Oh yeah, I've been there.

826
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it's interesting.

827
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: My kids are five and seven. Yeah, and during the pandemic, like,

828
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: when are we going to go on tour again? I

829
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: missed the bus all bus kids, Yeah, Yeah, that was us, Yeah,

830
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: was it?

831
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

832
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: Were you guys out of school a lot or more?

833
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: When you were young?

834
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: We were out a lot. I mean it wasn't until

835
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: high school that I was like really solidly in school.

836
00:46:59,400 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

837
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 4: We were pulled out quite a lot just to go

838
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: places here and there. And I'm grateful for that because

839
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 4: I liked, I mean, I appreciate that the education that

840
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: I got on the road.

841
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: What's interesting is like I'm curious about what's best for them,

842
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, it is nice to hear that.

843
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think that I would. I would. I

844
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 4: think the best way to learn and to especially to

845
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: appreciate other cultures, appreciate even other people in this country. Yeah,

846
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 4: you know, it is a vast country with many cultures.

847
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 4: It is a melting pot and and that's a beautiful

848
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 4: thing that I think needs to be seen and felt

849
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: an experience to appreciate for kid fully.

850
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's special.

851
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you can read about it in a

852
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: book about you know, the sociology of the country and

853
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 4: the and the way that you know, you know, the

854
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: wealth disparities here and there and then you know, but

855
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: tell it you if you go through and you go

856
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 4: to you know, Arkansas, and you go to Alabama, and

857
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: you go to the South, and then you go to

858
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 4: the north and you go through the you know, the

859
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 4: hard hit areas of different towns, if you you know,

860
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember when I was a kid going

861
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: after Katrina hit to New Orleans and to the ninth

862
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 4: Ward where they were rebuilding houses with an organization there,

863
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: and just to those kinds of experiences are to me

864
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 4: worth more than you know, all the schooling.

865
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 12: In the world.

866
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, especially now people are so desensitized with everything

867
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: coming at them all the time, so everything reads differently. Yes,

868
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: it does than it used to over the TV, you know.

869
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: Well, and it always does. And I always it's like

870
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 4: when the pandemic was going through going on and we

871
00:48:54,560 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 4: were doing all these concerts online. Yeah, and then now

872
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: that we're playing live again, you can really feel and

873
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 4: see the difference between a live show and that and

874
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 4: and I think that that hopefully kids and people are

875
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: starting to realize because they're like, well, I don't want

876
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: to see any more online concerts. I want to go

877
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: to real concerts. And then when they go to these

878
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 4: real concerts, they feel the difference between something that comes

879
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: to them on a screen and then something that comes

880
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 4: to them in real life. And I think that applies

881
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 4: to other experiences as well.

882
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you're also part of it. You're actually part

883
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: of the performance.

884
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 4: The energies are singing along, eating, Yeah, you're feeding off

885
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: of people.

886
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: Who are dancing whatever.

887
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: It is exactly. It's funny. We were in Philly last

888
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 4: night and there was all there was like a you know,

889
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 4: like really quiet moment, and then somebody was loud and

890
00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: everybody was shushing them and you know, and it's like yeah,

891
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: and it was great. And then that person got pissed

892
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: and like threw a drink and then they and then

893
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 4: like left and this is all like I'm trying to play,

894
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: you know, and this is all. It was a great experience.

895
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: And then she left and then the audience started clapping

896
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: and cheering when she left, you know.

897
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: And she went and cried in the bathroom.

898
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: Well, no, she I think she left of her own accord.

899
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: Like she was just like huffing because they were telling

900
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 4: her to be quiet. And then she like left and

901
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 4: then like kind of fought with the guards and then

902
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: they took her out and everybody applauded. But I didn't

903
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 4: really know what had happened, so I thought they were

904
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 4: applauding for me, and I was like, oh, this is

905
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: an odd time for them to cheer.

906
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't know what's happened.

907
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: But it's all like, you know, it's all an adventure.

908
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 4: It's so much fun to be live, you know.

909
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes me. I haven't played live yet. Oh

910
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: really now since the you know, all the pandemic. Oh

911
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: so can we play another song? Please?

912
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, let's do it. Which one do you think?

913
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: Let's do? Give you Away?

914
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, this is about a father giving his daughter away.

915
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm actually thinking about doing a video

916
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 4: to this really soon. Sweet, and it's going to be

917
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: a ballet. That's gonna be the whole story is going

918
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 4: to be told in ballet.

919
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: I love dance.

920
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, okay, yes, one, two, three four.

921
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 7: Woke up this morning and it was time.

922
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 6: So many years we've spent between us.

923
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: You've grown so much. Youse like a crime.

924
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 6: That I don't get to keep you here till the

925
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 6: end of time. And I left my.

926
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 9: Fear on the west.

927
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 7: Side, and I'm happy for the love you chose to

928
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 7: live back.

929
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: Well, you've grown so much.

930
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 9: It's time to fly.

931
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 6: I know.

932
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 7: I got to realize you no longer mine.

933
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: I'm giving you.

934
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 7: Away, but I'm never gonna let you go.

935
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 4: You found the love.

936
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: That will carry you. It brings me tears.

937
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,959
Speaker 7: Of joy to see your heart so true.

938
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: If he treats you right, then I.

939
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 7: Know he will.

940
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,479
Speaker 6: There ain't nothing in this.

941
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 3: Whole wide world that you can't do. And I've left

942
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: my fears on.

943
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 6: The wayside, and I'm happy for.

944
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 9: The love of you.

945
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 3: You chose to live.

946
00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 18: By you groan't so much.

947
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 9: Now it's time to fly.

948
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 7: And I know I've got to realize you know longer mine.

949
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: And I just want to tell you.

950
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 6: It'll do you rat to know.

951
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 9: I'm giving you.

952
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 7: Away, but I'm never gonna let you go.

953
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 3: And I just want to tell you it'll.

954
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 9: Do you rat to know.

955
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 7: I'm giving you away, but I'll never gone let you.

956
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 18: Go.

957
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 4: I love that you picked entirely different stars.

958
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I picked it. First of all. I

959
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it even before the end, but

960
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: then the end got me. I was like, oh, yeah,

961
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: we're doing this cool. But I love this song. It's wacky.

962
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: It's wacky, yeah, and it's I was.

963
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 4: Gonna do a whole record and I will of like

964
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: just super out there wacky songs about like this base

965
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 4: in the universe.

966
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because I felt like, this is a

967
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: side of you that I kind of know is there, yes,

968
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: and this represents it, which is another begging to come out.

969
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: It is right, Where does that come from just grown

970
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: up being curious, yes, yeah.

971
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 4: And like being a super nerd. Yeah, like I mean

972
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: full on, like I've seen every Star Trek, I've seen

973
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 4: really Star Wars.

974
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know that about you.

975
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I wish that.

976
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 4: You know, I probably want to be shot to space

977
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 4: when I die or before?

978
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: Would you do one of those trips? Did William Shanner

979
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: just go to s would be epic?

980
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I think at this point I would.

981
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

982
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: I was sort of waiting to have them work the kinks.

983
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: Out, you know, you know, yeah, once they work the yea.

984
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: Once they know.

985
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 4: I don't like kind of want to be the first

986
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 4: of the passengers in space because it's like, you know,

987
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 4: there's sure there's a lot that they're still figuring out

988
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: about that. But you know what if I somebody told

989
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 4: me now I could go to space.

990
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: I would, that's so funny.

991
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally would, And you know, but I.

992
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: Don't know if I would if I didn't have to

993
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: be in a spaceship. I think I get claustrophobic.

994
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: Oh really yeah, so like if they just shot you

995
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 4: out and just floating around.

996
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was big and roomy, right, right, but like

997
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: the space station. Yeah, like not, I wouldn't be in

998
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: like a tight vessel. I don't know. I feel like

999
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: to get up there, you got to be kind of

1000
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: confined in something, right.

1001
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 12: You know.

1002
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: What tripped me out is I read somewhere that that

1003
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 4: when you're weightless in space, it doesn't feel like you're floating.

1004
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 4: It feels like you're constantly falling.

1005
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh, because you got the pressure pressure on you.

1006
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: Right, and and it's almost like you're you're just the

1007
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 4: momentum of it being like hurtling through space is like

1008
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 4: that feeling of falling always.

1009
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: That kind of sounds like a vertigo recipe.

1010
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 4: It does sound like it'd be like not as like,

1011
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: oh I'm floating, you know, it'd be like it's like no,

1012
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 4: there's like you're like falling, but you're not hitting anything

1013
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 4: is falling at the same time.

1014
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: It's not like swimming.

1015
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: Not like swimming, No, like being underwater, although I did,

1016
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 4: I didn't they do train astronauts underwater.

1017
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: That's what I was wondering if it felt kind of

1018
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: like that, because I like that. Yeah, I'm more of

1019
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: a water person me too.

1020
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 4: Water water, Well, it's like being in under space. I'm

1021
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 4: learning how to hold my breath for I can hold

1022
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 4: my breath for three minutes. Now, really you do like

1023
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 4: a certain breathing technique and that's crazy. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

1024
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: I've never tested myself.

1025
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have friends who can hold it for like

1026
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: eight nine minutes.

1027
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:38,479
Speaker 1: Do you scuba dive?

1028
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 4: No, free diving?

1029
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: Oh wow?

1030
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1031
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: So we go down there and you know, just try

1032
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: and go to I've been to you know, like fifty

1033
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 4: feet is where my free diving limit is at this moment.

1034
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 4: But a lot of my friends out there go spearfishing

1035
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 4: and do that kind of stuff.

1036
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: I want to just come to Hawaii and you've got to.

1037
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: I started surfing this summer for the first time.

1038
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 4: What Yeah, bring the kids.

1039
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: They started surf lessons to.

1040
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 4: We'll teach them, we'll go out and we'll be fine.

1041
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: I would love to do like a I want to basically,

1042
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: I want to go to a surf camp or something.

1043
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: I want to just.

1044
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 4: I have some of the best surfers in the world

1045
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: that I know are really good friends and they love

1046
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: teaching kids.

1047
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the kids were pretty good at it. I was

1048
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: surprised their center gravity is low, so I guess right.

1049
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: When they're on those phone boards. Is that what they're

1050
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: learning on? Yeah, it's so cool. Yeah, Malui's a great spot.

1051
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 4: There's a great place I learned called Lania Poco and

1052
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 4: it's really really a special area. It's good for kids. Yeah.

1053
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the surf portion of my life.

1054
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 4: Are you.

1055
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm ready to just like what's so turn into

1056
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: a surfer.

1057
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 4: So good for you.

1058
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: It's like kind of liked.

1059
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 4: It is like a meditation and the waves.

1060
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's great.

1061
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know what, you should just come and

1062
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: live in Mali with me. We should all your whole

1063
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 4: family could come and live there and then we surf

1064
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 4: every day and then you know, you know, maybe we

1065
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 4: could like share a submarine when we have to go

1066
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 4: do gigs the submarine us.

1067
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1068
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 4: I like flying as much. That's the only problem about

1069
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 4: being Hawaii is yeah, a big flight over the ocean.

1070
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: But it's fine. I'm always fine when I'm up there.

1071
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: It's just scaredifying or you just don't like it.

1072
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 4: It's just not my favorite. I'm not scared of it.

1073
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 4: I have to do it so many times. I just

1074
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 4: sort of like, you know, I do a meditation before

1075
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 4: and I breathe. I just get like it's like a

1076
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 4: fight or flight thing. I think it's just my I

1077
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 4: don't think my body is used to being in that

1078
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 4: sort of environment through space. But like I just said.

1079
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: You just said you wanted to go to space, so.

1080
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 4: I would do it. It's like I do it all

1081
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 4: the time, and I get technically that is that's like

1082
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 4: as as flying as it gets out in space. What

1083
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 4: do you want to do?

1084
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 17: Now?

1085
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: Let's do the start entirely different stars. Let's get into

1086
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: your space zone.

1087
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 4: Yes, that sounds m Gonna take a ride, the good

1088
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: kind of ride, the wanna get lost in space kind

1089
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 4: of ride, the Sunday.

1090
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 6: And the moon in the evening tide.

1091
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 3: And disappeior below.

1092
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 4: I got a guy, a good tour guy, the best

1093
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: in the galaxy. Bona fight. He's gonna introduce me daily

1094
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 4: in life. I ain't never coming on.

1095
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 3: Our little world don't mean a thing. Come on, baby,

1096
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 3: want to ride with me on.

1097
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 4: A spaceshift.

1098
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 7: All by a nice little farm a thousand light years

1099
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 7: south of Mars. I'll give you loving underneath entirely different stars,

1100
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 7: entirely different star. I had a dream, a good kind

1101
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 7: of dream I never ever won a wake up kind

1102
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 7: of dream. My home planet, or so it seemed, was

1103
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 7: healthy and pristine.

1104
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: I woke up with.

1105
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 7: My baby dear, looked around and I shed a tear.

1106
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 7: My own planet that I held dear was ruled by

1107
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 7: greed and fear.

1108
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: But our little.

1109
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 6: World don't meanything.

1110
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 4: Come on, baby, won't you ride with me on a spaceship.

1111
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 14: I last, nice little farm a thousand light years south

1112
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 14: of Mars.

1113
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: I'll if you loving underneath entirely.

1114
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 6: Different stars, entirely different.

1115
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: Stall Goodbye World War Hello, what all?

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Speaker 14: Goodbye die read.

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Speaker 3: Hello kids all?

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Speaker 12: Then you let me mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: Perfect.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 4: That was awesome.

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Speaker 1: That ending that's in my DNA, like it's just part

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Speaker 1: of my being.

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Speaker 4: That's from Redheaded Strange. Yeah, And so the whole song is,

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Speaker 4: like you know, the concept is, and on the recording

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Speaker 4: it's a little more with the electric and everything gets

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Speaker 4: a little more trippy. But you know, they like take

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Speaker 4: take off, So after the words, then they take off,

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Speaker 4: and then when they break through the atmosphere, that's when

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Speaker 4: you know they're like floating. And then and then they

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Speaker 4: get into the outer reaches of space and like time

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Speaker 4: starts to go all weird. It's like, you know, two

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Speaker 4: thousand and one of Space Odyssey when he gets like

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Speaker 4: the way out there and like all everything starts to

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Speaker 4: go backwards. And then in two thousand and one of

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Speaker 4: Space Odyssey, it's it goes back to the womb at

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Speaker 4: the very end. Yeah, And so for me, the womb

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Speaker 4: and the feeling of home is that song. So it's

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Speaker 4: like it comes right back home at the end of

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Speaker 4: the song, and.

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Speaker 1: Like it's actually like that for me, even though it's

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Speaker 1: not my family, just because.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my grand it was my grandfather's favorite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a beautiful record.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Dad used to sing Redheaded Stranger from Blue Rock Rode

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Speaker 4: into Town one day May he was singing back before

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Speaker 4: I go to sleep.

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Speaker 1: Really he would sing it to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a violent song.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And so I was like kind of.

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Speaker 4: Have weird dreams after. I remember like I was like, wow,

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Speaker 4: this guy was like gnarly, you know it shot as

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Speaker 4: the girl for like trying to steal his whrse.

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Speaker 1: I know, I love it. I love grown up on

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Speaker 1: that album and not quite understanding.

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Speaker 4: And then getting more like wow, that's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we grew up with songs like that totally,

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Speaker 1: but you don't really get.

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Speaker 4: I read that ring around the rosie.

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Speaker 1: It's terrifying.

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Speaker 4: He's terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about like the plague, the plague. Yeah, ashes

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Speaker 1: as we.

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Speaker 4: All fall down? Yeahucket full of posies.

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Speaker 1: It is creepy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, you want to do another one?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You want to do sitting on a cloud, Set me

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Speaker 1: down on a cloud, set me down on a class.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. In fact, let's do that with just you on

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Speaker 4: the piano and I'll sing it. Is that all right?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, but I might have to You were doing

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Speaker 1: it in G earlier?

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Speaker 4: Was it in G flat?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Can I do it in G flat?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Just do it.

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Speaker 1: I just don't want to mess it up.

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Speaker 4: That's better because it really doesn't need guitar company On

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Speaker 4: that one, I'm sitting in room.

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Speaker 3: I'm waiting on and then answer hooping.

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Speaker 6: Let the lord see's fit to let me leave.

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Speaker 7: If the news, if you ain't coming back here, I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna stay until my bones turned to leave.

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Speaker 3: I'm waiting on way.

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Speaker 11: Hang you on the friend, white wall, light, little bold,

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Speaker 11: keep my feet on the ground.

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Speaker 3: If I lose my hobby, tell.

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Speaker 6: You where they can leave me.

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Speaker 7: Send me down on the cloud with my soul turned

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Speaker 7: inside out?

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Speaker 3: Will that fixed me up good? Put my heart still bleed?

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Speaker 3: And there's only one thing in this world.

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Speaker 6: To let me.

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Speaker 3: Baby, whooping up your eyes and tell me you.

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Speaker 11: Will not leavething when I'm gonna make you feel so

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Speaker 11: good and more feel.

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Speaker 17: I'm waiting on the word hanging on the bread white

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Speaker 17: wall was sling board.

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Speaker 11: Keep my feet on the ground. If I lose my hobby,

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Speaker 11: I'll tell you where they can leave me.

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Speaker 16: Set me down on the cloud with my soul turned inside.

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Speaker 3: I'm living on a word hanging on the friend white wall,

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Speaker 3: exact lug. Keep my feet on the ground, and I

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Speaker 3: follows my hobby. I'll tell you where they can leave me.

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Speaker 6: Send me down on a cloud with my soul turned.

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Speaker 16: In aside, Send me down, muscle turned and side, Send

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Speaker 16: me down on a class.

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Speaker 3: We mustle turned side.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I went for the third one we weren't gonna

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Speaker 1: go for.

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Speaker 4: That's perfect, that was great, that's pretty.

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Speaker 1: I love that. That's like that's the gospel song. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming.

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding? This is anytime you want me last?

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Speaker 4: Such an honor is so much fun. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for doing it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just playing love.

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Speaker 6: Ah.

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Speaker 1: That was so fun.

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Speaker 5: What an interesting dude. You can tell he's like very

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Speaker 5: his mind is very open. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like that about him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like even that song entirely different stars. I like

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Speaker 5: that one so like outside of the box. Like I

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Speaker 5: love that his mind went to this like intergalactic fantasy place.

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Speaker 1: It made me want to jump on the train. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was fun. I also found it really interesting and

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Speaker 1: unique that he he really explains what his songs are about.

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Speaker 1: Not all songwriters do that. A lot of people like

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Speaker 1: the mystery. Yes, and I was surprised, and it was

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Speaker 1: it was fun to hear where all these songs came from.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like that's a unique thing.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's it's probably hard to share that background.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't seem uncomfortable about it at all.

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Speaker 5: It is an open book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love that about him.

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Speaker 5: We learned new things about him, like some of his

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01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 5: hidden talents, like holding his breath underwater for.

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Speaker 4: How long did he say?

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01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,799
Speaker 1: I mean it was like three minutes.

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Speaker 5: Or don't try that at home.

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Speaker 1: Don't try that at home, do not. I want to

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Speaker 1: go surfing with him now, let's go serve All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, Thanks Lucas. We love you, Lucas. Thanks everyone

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Speaker 1: for listening, and have a great night, day day, night, day, night.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening. Don't forget to subscribe to Nora Jones

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Speaker 5: as playing Along wherever you get your podcasts, so you

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Speaker 5: never miss a new episode. This episode was recorded by

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Speaker 5: Matt Marinelli, mixed by Greg Tobler.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by Eliza Fry, Photography by Shervin Linez.

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Speaker 5: Produced by Nora Jones and Sarah Oda