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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to Turning Point Tonight. We're together,

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Speaker 1: we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. We

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Speaker 1: had so many fascinating conversations at Turning Points Student Action

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Speaker 1: Summit in Tampa, not all that long ago, but.

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Speaker 2: We just gotta we gotta play them for you, We gotta.

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Speaker 3: Bring them to you.

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Speaker 1: One of those conversations was with borders Are Tom Homan,

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Speaker 1: which I think you'll find fascinating and interesting. And then

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Speaker 1: after that we're talking to Bennie Johnson about well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Benny Johnson is the meme king of the Internet, maybe

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Speaker 1: second only to Donald Trump Junior, but again it's a

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Speaker 1: really tight race. Also, Monica Page has a fascinating report

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Speaker 1: on the hostages of the President. Trump has been able

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Speaker 1: to retrieve so much to get to check out this

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Speaker 1: first interview with Tom Homan, and I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. Borders Are Tom Homan? I want to start

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Speaker 1: this off. Are you trying to be funny?

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Speaker 4: Now? I'm just being me.

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Speaker 1: Because if I'm watching the administration, there's few people I

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Speaker 1: laugh more at. And I just want to know if

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Speaker 1: it's intentional or if you're are you is your obviously's

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Speaker 1: your personality.

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Speaker 3: But why is it so funny?

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Speaker 4: I say what I think. I don't think I have

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Speaker 4: any boundaries. I say what I think. I grew up.

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Speaker 4: I grew up in an opinion, and I have an

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Speaker 4: opinion now and I'm not afraid to share it, and

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Speaker 4: I don't give it what people think about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you've been as I'm sure you've been asked about it,

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Speaker 1: but the sixty minutes where you're going to separate families

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Speaker 1: that are being deported.

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Speaker 4: I was an honest answer. I think she thought that

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Speaker 4: she had me. Well, boy, I got this. This is

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Speaker 4: going to be headlines. You had me. I'm proud of

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Speaker 4: what I said. Matter of fact, I think she no,

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Speaker 4: that was a U two fame. I mean, but I

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Speaker 4: was an honest answer because we thought about this before, right, this,

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Speaker 4: this whole trashing of trunk forty five, separating families home

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Speaker 4: and zero tolerance. Same on you. Okay, well we're all

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Speaker 4: separate families. We deport families together. That's that's parenting, one

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Speaker 4: on one. Right. If we deport a parent, you got

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Speaker 4: a choice, take child with you or leave here with

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Speaker 4: somebody out the US citizen. That's your choice. Start a

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Speaker 4: government's choice anymore. It's a parents'.

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Speaker 1: Choice now when parents leave their kids here if they're

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Speaker 1: US sidence, because we've seen in so many stories of

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Speaker 1: a US citizen got deported, No, they went with their parents.

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Speaker 1: That's if a parent does leave their kid here, is

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Speaker 1: that like a CPS call? Because I feel like any

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Speaker 1: parent that would leave their kid in a foreign country

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Speaker 1: while they're getting deported probably shouldn't be in charge of that.

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Speaker 3: Kids will be I.

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Speaker 4: Guess it depends on the circumstances. Let's remember, if you

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Speaker 4: leave your kid in the car running seven eleven, get coffee,

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Speaker 4: you can get arrested. We got five hundred thousand parents

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Speaker 4: to put their kids in hands of criminal cartels be

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Speaker 4: trafficked in this country. Put their kids in the hands

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Speaker 4: are criminal cartel to be smuggling into the country traffic.

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Speaker 4: So you know, if people have a different set of rules,

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Speaker 4: you know, just like the whole you know, the family

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Speaker 4: separation saga. Tom Holmes or grandfather of family separation. Look,

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Speaker 4: I separate families every day, wants a cop US citizen

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Speaker 4: Families get separated when a parent goes to jail, job

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Speaker 4: can't go to jail with them. Well, when we were

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Speaker 4: prosecuting illegal aliens and they go to jail, child can't

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Speaker 4: go with them either. So, uh, it is, it is

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Speaker 4: what it is.

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Speaker 1: Just gonna say, if someone gets a DUI, you're saying

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Speaker 1: you're going to separate the kid from that parent. How

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Speaker 1: dare you so? One of the obviously the big talking

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Speaker 1: points nowadays is you know, we're going after criminal illegals

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Speaker 1: who are here illegally. Obviously, my concern is the math

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Speaker 1: on that. Right, you've got a couple hundred thousand criminals

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Speaker 1: on record being here illegally. Once you run out of them, right,

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Speaker 1: there's still twenty million legals got to get kicked out

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Speaker 1: difficult time messaging that to the American people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're trying to message it. Look, I see them.

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Speaker 4: You know, ninety percent of the media lives a by

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Speaker 4: what ice does? We are prioritizing public safety threats and

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Speaker 4: national security threats, but it's up from day one if

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Speaker 4: country legally, it's a crime to enter it's country illegally

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Speaker 4: and We're not going to forget that. But when limited

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Speaker 4: resources got you got prioritize, right, the public safety threats

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Speaker 4: But like I said, I mean, I use this analogy

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Speaker 4: I don't forget about my work life. Prioritization just means

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Speaker 4: what you hold an eye, you know what's a priority,

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Speaker 4: And that's what we're doing. But you see, the media

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Speaker 4: then we're going to go into the community and find them.

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Speaker 4: And many times when we do find them, they're with

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Speaker 4: others that are in the country illegally. Guess what they're

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Speaker 4: coming to. Because the last administration told ice you can't

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Speaker 4: arrest somebody for simply being here legal, they re rode

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Speaker 4: the law. Well, we're letting nights uphold the old HIPTUK.

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Speaker 4: We're enforce laws and Act by Congress and they're coming to.

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Speaker 1: I've been surprised at how that's not the main argument

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Speaker 1: from conservatives following off, if you want the law changed,

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Speaker 1: both of people are going to change the law. But

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Speaker 1: currently the law is as the law is, and we're

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Speaker 1: just following. Is there a reason why that's not a

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Speaker 4: I'm pushed that at Day. I tell people were the

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Speaker 4: attacks on ICE right now and all the hate on Ice,

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Speaker 4: including from members of Congress right we have members of

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Speaker 4: you know, he called him the Castopeo And I said,

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Speaker 4: you know, I've been saying, look, if you don't like

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Speaker 4: making this up. We're enforcing laws that Congress and acted

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Speaker 4: the same. Congressmen want to call Ice Nazis and races

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Speaker 4: for God's sake. So I want to protest. Somebody protests Congress.

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Speaker 4: We're doing our job. We're enforcing laws around the books.

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Speaker 4: That's the difference between us and Biden we're enforcing the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I always make the argument, Okay, if we're

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Speaker 4: Law enforcement agency, will you tell them not to enforce

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Speaker 4: We're doing the same thing. Look, immigration enforcement has always

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Speaker 4: been emotional, it's always been controversial. I get it, But

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Speaker 4: never going to fix a problem. So there's got to

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Speaker 4: got a lot of people of self deporting, self leaving

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Speaker 4: part of why we got the most secure border in

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Speaker 4: the history of the nation right now. Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 4: policies such as remaining Mexico and then catch release, but

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Speaker 4: because while all these people, all these protesters show up,

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Speaker 4: how dare you? They're just here illegally. They cheated the system.

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Speaker 4: While they're cheating in the system, there are millions of

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Speaker 4: They're sitting in the back seat where people are cheating

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Speaker 4: the system. So no, we'll prioritize our work. But if

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Speaker 1: I recognize that this is mostly going to be seen

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Speaker 1: I see it on my social media feeds all day.

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Speaker 1: If you even look not like a cisgendered white man,

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Speaker 1: you're going to get arrested and deported. What kind of

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Speaker 4: So here's why I need I did an interview yesterday

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Speaker 4: and media took all the context and people you know

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Speaker 4: the comment first of most people of comment morons, they

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Speaker 1: I also could be mistaken, but appearance, it could also

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Speaker 1: be MS thirteen tattooed on their forehead and U regardless

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Speaker 4: Of It's one fashions out of many you got to gather,

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Speaker 4: maybe he's a naturalized citizen. So that's again that's one

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Speaker 4: factor amongst many they can add to reasonal suspicion. And

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Speaker 1: As I said, is an I would like it to

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Speaker 1: detain that person if them's got that tattoo on the

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Speaker 1: four you don't have to take my advice.

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Speaker 3: I'm obviously matter of fact.

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Speaker 4: I judges decided yesterday she's trying to, you know, put

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Speaker 4: a stop to what we're doing on the streets. But

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Speaker 4: you know she would lose that in appeals court because

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Speaker 4: we are establishing reasonal suspicion. That is what the law says.

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Speaker 4: I learned that in nineteen eighty four in a board

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Speaker 4: to academy, got established regional suspicion before he prod somebody.

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Speaker 4: And that's the standard we found.

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Speaker 1: And kind of wrapping up, how is this taking a

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Speaker 1: toll on your personal life? Because obviously you know this

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Speaker 1: is a hot button issue like no other hot button

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Speaker 1: issue that I've seen being alive. I mean, I live

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Speaker 1: in the Los Angeles areas. It was very close to

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Speaker 1: all of that chaos, and unfortunately you're the boogeyman.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of people in this country don't like me,

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Speaker 4: and I don't give it that. If they knew what

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Speaker 4: experienced since nineteen eighty four, the tragedies, the rapes of children,

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Speaker 4: they understand me. Illegal migration is not a victim's crime.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Turning Point Tonight. We're together, we are

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Speaker 1: charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Let's check in

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Speaker 1: with Turning Points. White House Correspondent, Monica Page Modica. Lot's

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Speaker 1: Joe Bob, Yeah, it reminds me of the NATO leader

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Speaker 1: You. Libs have hit a thirty five year low when

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Speaker 1: maybe even late eighties that Libs were doing this bad

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Speaker 1: Chloe Castillo, Mike Crispy, Guys, this I thought was really interesting, Chloe.

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Speaker 1: This sixty three percent of registered voters say Libs aren't

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: That is the lowest number in thirty five years. To me,

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Speaker 1: They're doing so many things great and everyone agrees with

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Speaker 9: I guess infiltrating our culture in our society, through the culture,

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Speaker 9: And so I would love to see Americans really go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also a part of me that goes like,

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Speaker 1: I thought was interesting, And that same survey, forty six

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Speaker 2: Actually, in presidential terms, that's really really good.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, we can't get anybody to agree on

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Speaker 10: it's breaking through because the fake news keeps doing the

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Speaker 11: The left keep doing the same.

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Speaker 10: Stuff, and people like, all you tried this last time,

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Speaker 10: it didn't work, And so they don't have a new

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Speaker 10: And I think the more these new Democrats step in

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Speaker 10: they the more they hear that as the alternative, they go,

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Speaker 10: all right, I think I'm gonna go with Trump over

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Speaker 10: people like Jasmin Crockett, who said yesterday at a press

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Speaker 10: these days of the Republican fleet. I'm here, all right,

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Speaker 10: Jasmin Crockett, take yourself and your fake care out of here.

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Speaker 3: Nobody for you or your party.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, the conservatives will never recover from that sting

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Speaker 1: by congress Woman Jasmine Crockett. Uh So, over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: But that story didn't really get as much coverage.

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Speaker 1: And part of the reason why I think that is

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Speaker 1: is because of this video.

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Speaker 3: Watch this and we'll discuss.

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Speaker 12: That way it away.

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Speaker 3: I think we understand the gist of it.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a bad enough of that that guy holding

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Speaker 1: get bigger news, but for some reason, nobody is touching

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Speaker 9: Why do you think that is, Well, you know, we

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Speaker 9: And it's the same agenda they've had for decades now,

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Speaker 9: this that is very obviously on the side of our

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Speaker 9: Second Amendment showing that indeed Americans do need to be

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Speaker 9: armed on the day to day and that it's incredibly

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Speaker 9: important for us to have these sort of stories heard

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Speaker 9: when it comes to good guy with a gun and

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Speaker 9: you know, someone of the weapon who shouldn't have, you know,

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Speaker 9: had one and he was clearly hurting edocent people. I mean, so,

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Speaker 9: I think it's it's very obvious that again the mainstream

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Speaker 9: media is going to do everything in their power to

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Speaker 9: push these sort of stories down. It's very much so

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Speaker 9: a pro American story in a way, and I think

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Speaker 9: that anything with that hint of American patriotism and you know,

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Speaker 9: love of country and love of Second Amendment, they're going

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Speaker 9: to do everything they can decifle that.

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Speaker 1: Mike, this was was a video that I think heartened

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, and a part of it is

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Speaker 1: happened to be a black guy. It doesn't matter to me,

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't matter to anybody now. The way he was

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Speaker 1: holding the gun was a little bit stereotypical, but overall

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Speaker 1: it was a good guy with a firearm that stopped

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Speaker 1: the bad guy with the weapon from doing bad things.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't matter, But apparently the racial narrative is big in

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Speaker 1: politics nowadays. Does it matter at all to you?

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Speaker 10: Of course it matters the Democrat Party that we're a

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Speaker 10: bunch of racists. All they say, eight black people, So

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Speaker 10: we're celebrating this guy. We don't care that he's black,

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Speaker 10: we don't care what color he is. He exercises Second

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Speaker 10: Amendment and he was black and it's great.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats don't want that.

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Speaker 10: They don't want people saying in black communities, oh wow,

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Speaker 10: look at that, this guy's a hero. And his values

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Speaker 10: aligned with right wing politics, Second Amendment and saving people.

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Speaker 3: So it totally matters. They didn't show this story and they.

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Speaker 10: Didn't make anything of it because he breaks the mold

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Speaker 10: of what the Democrats want. Okay, they want their voters,

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Speaker 10: the black community, to be kept in their box and

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Speaker 10: to be kept in a state of affairs and believing

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Speaker 10: that you shouldn't be able to carry a gun.

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Speaker 3: Additionally, there was in I believe.

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Speaker 10: It was in Cincinnati where there was the music festival

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Speaker 10: and this group of writers, these black writers attacked and

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Speaker 10: very seriously critically injured this white couple. Did that get

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Speaker 10: any airtime? No, So the media, not Republicans, are the

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Speaker 10: real racists.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean that Cincinnati's story is a horrible thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if people watching this network they've seen it already.

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Speaker 1: But you know, hopefully justice is served there. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: just overall, the whole raised narrative is so ridiculous and

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Speaker 1: so dumb. It just needs to go away. Good people

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Speaker 1: and bad people exist, and that's what the country is

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Speaker 1: made up of. Chloe, Mike, Guys, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. Thank you coming up next year on Turning Point. Tonight,

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Speaker 5: Got to admire what you've been able to do, not

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Speaker 5: to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses.

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Speaker 13: Today is childhood independence at risk for extinction?

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Speaker 14: In a extinction maybe last gaps, Yeah, last gasps. How

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Speaker 14: do you think we got here? You have to start

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Speaker 14: by looking at the media, which knows that if it bleeds,

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Speaker 14: it leads. We all know that, right, And as the

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Speaker 14: media became more intense in the eighties, we got cable television,

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Speaker 14: then obviously along came the Internet, and stories that happen

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Speaker 14: once anywhere, anytime, that are horrible get repeated over and

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Speaker 14: over again, and it starts to feel as if it's

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Speaker 14: happening all the time, and so part of it is

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Speaker 14: the media. Part of is a regigious society. You start thinking,

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Speaker 14: like a lawyer, is this fair? Is this going to

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Speaker 14: hold up in court? Is this safe enough? Experts are

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Speaker 14: always telling you you're doing it wrong.

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Speaker 11: I hope.

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Speaker 14: I'm not an expert. I hope. I'm just like a

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Speaker 14: normal person sent down from another era to talk to Alex.

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Speaker 14: And you have a marketplace, which I'm happy. I live

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Speaker 14: in a capitalist country, but there's no dollar easier to

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Speaker 14: get from any human being than the dollar of a

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Speaker 14: parent that you worried that something terrible could happen to

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Speaker 14: your kid and said, but wait, I have a cure.

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Speaker 14: I have you know a way of preventing that. But

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Speaker 14: I think the overarching, sort of meta problem is that

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Speaker 14: we really think we can control everything. We can control

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Speaker 14: everything that our kids are exposed to see, hear, read, eat, lick, notice,

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Speaker 14: and that we can control the outcomes if we just

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Speaker 14: pay more attention, if we just watch every single thing

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Speaker 14: they do. And I think that's the reason that parents

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Speaker 14: are so nervous today, because we've tasked them with something impossible,

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Speaker 14: which is making another person into exactly who you want

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Speaker 14: them to be and keeping them absolutely safe from everything

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Speaker 14: from you know, from bullying to frustration, to boredom to sadness,

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Speaker 14: to ever feeling excluded to ever having a sniffle. You

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Speaker 14: can't do that, but because the promise is that you

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Speaker 14: can if you do this, or work on this, or

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Speaker 14: buy this, then you start feeling like any time anything

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Speaker 14: bad happens to your kid, it's your fault, and that

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Speaker 14: makes you terrify.

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Speaker 13: You are the queen of the free parenting movement? What

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Speaker 13: does that really mean in practice?

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Speaker 14: In practice, it means that people think I'm much more

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Speaker 14: wild than I am. I wish they knew that. I

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Speaker 14: always say I'm part helicopter on my mom's side because

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Speaker 14: I worry just like everyone else. The one thing I

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Speaker 14: don't worry about, I guess is strangers. And so maybe

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Speaker 14: that's because I was a reporter for so many years

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Speaker 14: here in New York City, going to every neighborhood and

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Speaker 14: never doing sad stories, never never covering, you know, fires

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Speaker 14: or things like that. I was always just meeting people.

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Speaker 14: I would get off the subway and I won't let

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Speaker 14: myself get back on until I'd met somebody and found

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Speaker 14: out their story and figured out something to write about,

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Speaker 14: and in doing that, you really realize how trust is

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Speaker 14: makes sense even though we're told not to trust. I

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Speaker 14: think that the world is more interesting and actually you'll

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Speaker 14: have a better life. And this is a weird tangent,

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Speaker 14: I guess, but there's something called I can never remember

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Speaker 14: if it's primals or priors, but it's how you're raised.

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Speaker 14: And people think that if you're raising kids to tell them, look,

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Speaker 14: it's a tough world out there. You got to watch

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Speaker 14: out for yourself. Don't be a patsy. Everyone's out to

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Speaker 14: get you. Parents think that they're preparing their kids so

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Speaker 14: that they won't be taken advantage of, so that they'll

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Speaker 14: have a better life. But there was this one giant

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Speaker 14: long term study, like over the course from childhood to adulthood,

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Speaker 14: that found that kids raised that way actually didn't have

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Speaker 14: great outcomes. They were less happy in their marriages, they

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Speaker 14: were less successful in their careers, and they had more

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Speaker 14: psychological problems. And you know, there's a lot that goes

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Speaker 14: on between childhood and adulthood, and god knows if it's

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Speaker 14: just that, but it was interesting to me that the

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Speaker 14: one thing that the parents thought that they were gifting

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Speaker 14: their kids this gift of suspicion and you know, get

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Speaker 14: your hackles up. Turned out not to be great. And

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Speaker 14: I was just reading a novel by the guy who

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Speaker 14: wrote Downton Abbey. One of the characters says, you know,

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Speaker 14: it's better to be gullible than to be suspicious, And

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Speaker 14: I thought, isn't that interesting? Even gullibility, she's not saying trusting.

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Speaker 14: She's saying like, almost stupidly trusting, or excessive trusting. And

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Speaker 14: the book certainly proves that, and I think there's something

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Speaker 14: wise to that. And we're in a culture that says,

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Speaker 14: don't be trusting, don't trust your kid, don't trust your neighborhood,

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Speaker 14: don't trust the uber driver, you know, pick up your

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Speaker 14: kid from the bus stop every day. You can't trust

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Speaker 14: your neighbors on that three, you know, three block walk home.

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Speaker 14: And I'd say that there's something life giving about trust.

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Speaker 13: That is a very hard concept for a lot of

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Speaker 13: parents today, I think to find agreeable. I know, because

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Speaker 13: of just the state of.

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Speaker 14: Where we're at, I am keenly aware how hard it

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Speaker 14: is to think that your kid can ever do anything

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Speaker 14: on their own safely or successfully. Because we live in

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Speaker 14: a culture that is sort of infusing the air with

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Speaker 14: fear and then you breathe it in. If we were

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Speaker 14: on Staten Island right now, it looks like it's you know,

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Speaker 14: it's clear, right. The air we're breathing doesn't seem like

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Speaker 14: a giant dark cloud right right. But if you're on

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Speaker 14: Staten Island looking at Manhattan, there's a giant dark cloud.

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Speaker 14: It's smoggy and gross. So I feel like, in a way,

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Speaker 14: we're in this culture where we're breathing in the smog

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Speaker 14: of fear and we don't see it. I was just

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Speaker 14: watching an ad for one of the tracking apps, and

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Speaker 14: it showed a mom fantasizing like, well, you know, the

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Speaker 14: minute you're out of my sight, I think of you

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Speaker 14: being you know, murdered or kidnapped or chopped into pieces.

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Speaker 14: They showed a lot of chopping into pieces, and this

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Speaker 14: was sort of presented kind of funny but kind of normal.

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Speaker 14: And I'm not immune to fear either. I hate fear

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Speaker 14: and I feel it nonetheless. But this was normalizing a

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Speaker 14: level of fear for when your child just walks out

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Speaker 14: the door to go across the street to the park,

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Speaker 14: or to go a couple blocks away to visit a friend.

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Speaker 14: And I feel that's so unfair to us as parents,

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Speaker 14: to make us so scared about everyday activities. And I

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Speaker 14: know that it feels natural, but I know that it's

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Speaker 14: not natural because your parents. Well, let me ask you

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Speaker 14: a question. Did your parents think that every time you

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Speaker 14: left the house something bad was gonna happen?

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Speaker 13: No, my parents. I actually brought this up to my mom.

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Speaker 13: She came and visited me for Mother's Day and I said,

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Speaker 13: you know, you were really lenient about me coming and

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Speaker 13: going places, having sleepovers. I mean, I was always out

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Speaker 13: of my house, going somewhere, playing outside all day long,

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Speaker 13: had no idea where I was. And I said, have

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Speaker 13: you ever thought about that that you were really lenient?

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Speaker 13: And she was like, no, like it was I guess

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Speaker 13: that wasn't something that she really worried about. But I'm

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Speaker 13: also like, well, was that a cultural thing in the

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Speaker 13: nineties that most parents were like that and now most

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Speaker 13: are not? Or was my mom the exception? I don't know.

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Speaker 14: No, your mom was part of the social normdic. Then

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Speaker 14: my mom a generation earlier was too. When I walked

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Speaker 14: to school in the morning, I'd go around the corner

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Speaker 14: and she wouldn't see me until three o'clock or whenever

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Speaker 14: I came home, and then I'd have my cookies and milk.

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Speaker 14: God forgive me, and then I would go out in place,

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Speaker 14: or I would go upstairs and read. But nobody thought

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Speaker 14: that she was being neglectful. You didn't walk her to school?

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Speaker 14: What about she had across the street? Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 14: And the crossing guard was a kid, because back then

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Speaker 14: we trusted kids to stop the traffic. And then that

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Speaker 14: became abnormal. And it's not because the world got less safe.

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Speaker 14: It's because the world started feeling less safe. And I

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Speaker 14: think it's for the reasons we were just discussing. There's

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Speaker 14: so much more media. Law and order hadn't been invented

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Speaker 14: when I was a kid. I mean, it's like been

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Speaker 14: the most seen show in the world. When I was

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Speaker 14: growing up, there wasn't cable television. That's how long ago

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Speaker 14: it was. Once you had cable TV, then you had

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Speaker 14: the twenty four hour news cycle, which hadn't been possible

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Speaker 14: some kidnappings got extremely publicized. That's when they put the

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Speaker 14: pictures on the milk cartons. Have you heard of that? Yeah,

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Speaker 14: of course, yeah, Okay, you're too young. You heard about it,

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Speaker 14: you didn't see it. But today's parents grew up looking

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Speaker 14: at those pictures. And the terrible thing about that campaign

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Speaker 14: is it said missing have you seen me? And you're like,

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Speaker 14: But generally they were taken in custodial disputes between divorced parents. Oh,

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Speaker 14: or they were runaways. Right, And stranger danger today remains

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Speaker 14: the least common crime. And so I actually want kids

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Speaker 14: to be safe. And I have a really simple thing

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Speaker 14: to teach kids. If you're game, yeah, well you know

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Speaker 14: that most crimes against kids are not committed by strangers.

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Speaker 14: They're committed by people they know. So if you teach

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Speaker 14: them the three rs, this is going to keep them

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Speaker 14: a lot safer than telling them don't talk to strangers.

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Speaker 14: And the three hours are this recognize no one can

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Speaker 14: touch you where your bathing suit covers. You can teach

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Speaker 14: this to very little kids. It's like teaching them stop,

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Speaker 14: drop and roll for a fire, so no one can

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Speaker 14: recognize no one can touch you where your bathing suit covers. Resist, run, kick, scream,

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Speaker 14: you don't have to be nice to adults. You don't

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Speaker 14: you just get away, make them feel it. And then

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Speaker 14: the third R. So that's resist, and the third R

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Speaker 14: is report. Tell me. Even if someone says this is

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Speaker 14: get hurt. I won't be mad at you. Just come

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Speaker 14: and tell me. So you're removing the molester's favorite friend,

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Speaker 14: which is secrecy, and you're making it much more likely

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Speaker 14: that they will be safe than telling them don't talk

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Speaker 14: to strangers. Instead of telling kids don't talk to strangers.

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Speaker 14: What I learned when I was writing my book, I

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Speaker 14: didn't come up with this idea is tell kids you

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Speaker 14: I can't talk to you. No you can, you just

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Speaker 14: is that a stranger? Is that my friend? I don't know,

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Speaker 14: So just tell them talk to anyone, don't go off

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Speaker 1: You know, just another kindly gentleman on a plane who

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Speaker 11: I sit down.

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Speaker 1: Now, I know what you're thinking. That guy seems very

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Speaker 1: Now I'm here to tell you that. Uh, I walked

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: He says he wants a death to America. What that

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Speaker 1: really is is a protest, an attack against colonialism around

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Speaker 1: the world. He says death to President Trump, and that

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Speaker 1: is also a protest to the white heteronormativity of his

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Speaker 1: KINDI again, these are just cultural things that different cultures

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Speaker 1: say different things at different times. He says, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ate Curry the night before. And uh, well that's that,

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Speaker 1: you know. That is I think genuinely what some libs

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Speaker 1: would say, like when they say death to America, they

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Speaker 1: don't actually mean that when they say they're gonna bomb

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Speaker 1: the plane.

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Speaker 3: It's just a different culture. Okay, fine, let's just assume

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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna tackle that guy because they don't want

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Speaker 1: the plane to explode.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what else is there.

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Speaker 1: Because that about a billion of you sent me that

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Speaker 1: that sent me that video over the weekend, I appreciate that,

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Speaker 1: you did. I'm glad you're staying on top of things

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Speaker 1: and sending along what you think is appropriate. Let's before

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Speaker 1: we run out of time, let's watch this clip. The

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Speaker 1: best defense against auto theft in the modern age, apparently

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Speaker 1: is a manual transmission to watch this.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: I assume that her car was there, and I you know,

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Speaker 1: I understand, I understand that getting.

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Speaker 3: Your car blocked.

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Speaker 1: But first things first, is the stereotype rings true on

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Speaker 1: so many different levels. A woman saying you have thirty

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Speaker 1: clock there it was about four seconds, and then took action.

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Speaker 1: In other words, uh, my wife seems to be directly

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Speaker 3: Concept of time.

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Speaker 1: That that's just just saying that, that's an observation I've made,

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Speaker 1: and that.

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Speaker 2: Seemed to be true in this particular video.

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Speaker 1: And second, the desk, I'm gonna move this truck right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's a stick shift. What do I do?

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Speaker 1: I've never operated a clutch before. I'm not in Oh shoot,

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Speaker 1: I stalled it. Like how funny is that? I you

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Speaker 1: better adhere to my threats or else I'm gonna drive

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Speaker 1: your truck away and then immediately stalls. It Isn't that

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Speaker 1: indicative of the modern culture today. I would be curious,

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Speaker 1: and I'd love to hear your thoughts via the email

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Speaker 1: again TBT at TPUSA dot com. What percentage of the

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Speaker 1: upcoming generation doesn't know how to drive a stick one

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Speaker 1: but two has never even heard of a stick shift

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Speaker 1: or a manual transmission. I would imagine that number is

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Speaker 1: probably shockingly high. I don't think I would like to

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Speaker 1: know the actual number. I don't know if it can

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Speaker 1: be pulled. If it is polled, send us the poll,

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Speaker 1: and that you know, I don't know, is it?

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Speaker 12: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Ninety percent of gen z slash millennials don't even know

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Speaker 1: what an autumn era a manual transmission is. Well, press

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Speaker 1: the gas and the car goes, because we're getting into

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Speaker 1: an age where it's like, yeah, I press a button

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make threats like that, at least no how

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Speaker 1: to use the clutch, that is going to do it

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Speaker 1: for us here at turning point tonight, Charlie is going

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Speaker 1: to take us out with another fantastic clip of him

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Speaker 1: in the This is actually the culmination of the Israel

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Speaker 1: Palestine debate from the Student Action Summit. So stay tuned

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Speaker 1: for that. We'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place.

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Speaker 15: God bless America.

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Speaker 16: All you got to do is listen. Yes, I have

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Speaker 16: talked actually to families of people who have died in Iraq.

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Speaker 16: You know what, Overwhelmingly they're non interventionists, anti war people. Now,

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Speaker 16: in fact, did you know that in two thousand and

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Speaker 16: eight and in twenty twelve, doctor Ron Paul got more

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Speaker 16: money from active duty military than all the other candidates combined,

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Speaker 16: including Barack Obama. Because the active duty military are actually

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Speaker 16: the ones who are the most hardcore.

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Speaker 17: I wore now don't in them.

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Speaker 16: Let's try to sell another.

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Speaker 6: But with Dave, I'm gonna follow up with a tough quote.

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Speaker 6: I want I want you to make the case because

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Speaker 6: I don't want to have you be able to get

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Speaker 6: past this. You say Israel is not an ally that

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Speaker 6: that is not an opinion that people hear a lot.

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Speaker 6: Why is that?

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Speaker 16: Look all I'm saying is Israel has at every turn.

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Speaker 16: And look again, when I say Israel, I'm talking about

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Speaker 16: the government of Israel, I'm not talking about the people

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Speaker 16: they are, and I'm specifically talking about Benjamin Nettan Yahoo

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Speaker 16: and the Likud Party, who have been in control for

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Speaker 16: most of this time, for most of my lifetime, yeah,

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Speaker 16: and right most of the twenty first century. And so

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Speaker 16: when I say, they have been constantly pushing America toward

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Speaker 16: more aggressive policies, toward getting in more fights. And just

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Speaker 16: like I always say, if you went out to the

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Speaker 16: bar every single night with your friend, and every night

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Speaker 16: your friend's trying to convince you to get into a fight,

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Speaker 16: and while you're beating a lot of people up, you're

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Speaker 16: also taking a lot of wounds, and you're going to jail,

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Speaker 16: and you're getting in trouble to stop hanging out with

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Speaker 16: that friend. And so I think.

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Speaker 3: That I my position.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 16: I don't believe in in wars of aggression and wars

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Speaker 16: of choice. I don't believe in sanctions. I don't believe

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Speaker 16: that we should be friends with Israel. We should trade

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Speaker 16: with Israel and have a good relationship with them. But

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Speaker 16: you know what, I also don't believe in welfare, and

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Speaker 16: they shouldn't get another dime of US tax payer money,

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Speaker 16: and they should not.

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Speaker 7: So I belie hold on their lobby.

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Speaker 16: Their lobby should register as a fault. That's a good

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Speaker 16: segue finished, and they should stop blackmailing our politics.

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Speaker 3: Got it?

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Speaker 6: So back to Josh. Back to Josh, Dave had some

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Speaker 6: uninterrupted time there. Let's now address that because you know,

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Speaker 6: again there's a text chain. I have all the text

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Speaker 6: to prove it. Everyone knew where this debate was going, right, Dave.

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Speaker 6: There's been no surprises, Josh. You knew that there's some concerns,

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Speaker 6: and Dave mentioned it such as you I think you're

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Speaker 6: saying APAC Is that correct?

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Speaker 16: Well, the broader Israel lobby, but that's certainly part of it.

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Speaker 6: Can you address this, Josh, because this is a question

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Speaker 6: people are confused to take. Take two to three minutes

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Speaker 6: on this and then build out the ally Israel at

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Speaker 6: the end of it. But Josh Davis making a point

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Speaker 6: I'd like you to respond to.

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Speaker 17: Okay, So, first of all, I'm not a fan of

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Speaker 17: a pack.

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Speaker 6: I have.

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Speaker 17: I donated one Stay pack fifty four dollars like a

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Speaker 17: decade ago, and I basically got swindled into doing it.

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Speaker 17: So I'm not a fan of a pack. But APAK

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Speaker 17: is not this nefarious boogeyman that Dave smith Field make

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Speaker 17: it out to me. It stands for America Israel Political

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Speaker 17: Action Committee. It is a group of Americans who play

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Speaker 17: a premium on the US Israel relationship, the same way

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Speaker 17: that the NRA is group of Americans who plays a

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Speaker 17: premium on the Second Amendment. I do too. I'm a

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Speaker 17: concealed carry kind of guy myself, same way that there

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Speaker 17: are any number of other lobby groups that support any

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Speaker 17: number of other things. By the way, there's also similar

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Speaker 17: groups similar to a pack for American citizens to support

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Speaker 17: US relations with other foreign countries. Funny how these other

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Speaker 17: groups never get brought up in this debate. For instance,

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Speaker 17: anyone who's been to Glendale, California, you probably heard folks

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Speaker 17: in ANKA. That's the Armenia National Committee of America, very

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Speaker 17: loud active group.

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Speaker 11: In Washington, d C.

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Speaker 17: Perhaps more nefariously, there is the NIAC, the National Iranian

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Speaker 17: American Council. It's funny how in these debates when you

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Speaker 17: talk about various American citizens who get involved to lobby

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Speaker 17: or to express their political opinion as the first moment

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Speaker 17: gives you the right to do, because they think that

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Speaker 17: the US national interest is served by allying with a

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Speaker 17: certain country. It's funny, and perhaps a little worse than funny,

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Speaker 17: how the whole register is a foreign agent talking point

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Speaker 17: comes up only in one context, in one context only,

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Speaker 17: which is APAC. Look the notion, Charlie, that APAC, which again,

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Speaker 17: I'm not a fan of. I I have literally I'm

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Speaker 17: not a fan of a pack. Why are you not

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Speaker 17: a fan of Yeah, I'm not a fan of APAC

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Speaker 17: for the reason that I'm just about to give, actually,

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Speaker 17: which is that a pack exists. They're raison de etra.

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Speaker 17: Their entire purpose for existing is to secure large scale

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Speaker 17: annual appropriations, currently about three point eight billion dollars annually

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Speaker 17: in US aid to Israel. I'm not a big I'm

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Speaker 17: not a particularly big fan of foreign aid in general,

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Speaker 17: and I've been arguing for literally a decade that the

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Speaker 17: US should wind down foreign aid to Israel in particular.

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Speaker 17: I think it actually is a bad idea for both countries.

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Speaker 6: Do we have agreement on that?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, if you want to wind it down to zero tomorrow,

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Speaker 16: we have.

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Speaker 6: Agreement on that act tomorrow, I'd support well, so we

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Speaker 6: have an agreement on an end point, Yes, sure, Okay,

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Speaker 6: keep going.

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Speaker 17: Job, yeah, so you obviously yeah are you guys are

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Speaker 17: good people.

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Speaker 16: They just cheered for agreement.

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Speaker 6: I like this, say that's the point. We're not here

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Speaker 6: just the hurl insults. Yeah, you could do that online.

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Speaker 6: This is here to actually have some sort of we're

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Speaker 6: a nation, these are our fellow citizens. We got to

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Speaker 6: figure this stuff out.

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Speaker 17: Josh, keep going, Yeah, so you obviously can't do it

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Speaker 17: tomorrow because that would be to betray an ally in

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Speaker 17: the middle of a hot war. That would send a

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Speaker 17: terrible signal to other allies. Saudi's amraades you name it is.

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Speaker 17: You can't do it tomorrow. But I do agree that

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Speaker 17: you should have a game plan five, ten, twenty years,

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Speaker 17: whatever it is. I don't really care. Honestly, get a

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Speaker 17: game plan in place to phase out this AID. It's

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Speaker 17: not good for the United States. It's crony capitalism, Eisenhower

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Speaker 17: Defense Industrial Complex, bowing north of Grumman. All of that

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Speaker 17: is totally true. And then from Israel's pspective, it's also

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Speaker 17: bad for them too, because it makes them overly reliant.

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Speaker 17: It actually ends up undermining the entire notion of Zionism,

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Speaker 17: the notion that the Jews should control their own right

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Speaker 17: to their own existence and their own homeland undermines Zionism

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Speaker 17: in the long grun self, So it's actually bad for

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Speaker 17: both countries. But Charlie, this notion that APAK is this

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Speaker 17: big powerful lobby can be dispelled with literally one anecdote.

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Speaker 17: And I only need one anecdote to dispel this off

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Speaker 17: repeeda notion, which is the entire twenty fourteen to twenty

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Speaker 17: fifteen Barack Obama are on nuclear debate. The fact that

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Speaker 17: the jcpoa Barack Obama's Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action nucledeal

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Speaker 17: pass is literally the singular data point that disproves the

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Speaker 17: entire alleged existence something the farious Israel lobby that controls

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Speaker 17: all politicians there. They failed epically to get that pass.

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Speaker 17: But I do have a question, Charlie for a Dave there,

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Speaker 17: which is.

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Speaker 6: I will translate it.

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Speaker 17: Okay, Well, Charlie, I would be very very curious, based

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Speaker 17: on Dave's recent tweets about Donald Trump doing xyz things,

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Speaker 17: whether it's covering up for a pedophile rank or engaging

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Speaker 17: in foreign wars all on behest of afore power, does

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Speaker 17: Dave actually think that Donald Trump JD. Vans the entire

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Speaker 17: trumdministration are literally bought off by the Jews? Is that

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Speaker 17: actually your your honest ans? Okay, so what Josh is asking, Well.

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Speaker 16: Yeah said, well it's always look all of this I mean,

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Speaker 16: but I'm sorry, but just like everything you just said,

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Speaker 16: like all of it, I just find to be like

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Speaker 16: the cheapest debate tactics. First off, I never said anyone's

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Speaker 16: bought off by the Jews. We're both Jewish, and that's

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Speaker 16: a dirty little trick you play when i'm talking the.

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Speaker 6: Non Jewish guy.

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Speaker 16: Well, I'm talking about a foreign Yeah, I'm talking about

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Speaker 16: a foreign government.

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