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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And you guys, today it's a big day because it's

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Speaker 1: our last ever recapping session of a Bachelor Goat episode.

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Speaker 1: Who I know, it's a it's a good day because

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Speaker 1: I think bigger and better things to come from here.

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Speaker 1: But last night on ABC we had the airing of

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Speaker 1: the highly anticipated Nick Vile season, which, of course, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: we got to see you a little bit, so it's

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Speaker 1: always so fun to watch. And then next Monday, we

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Speaker 1: have our final episode ever of Greatest of All Time

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Speaker 1: with one Pablos season, which will then jump start us

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Speaker 1: into Claire's season of The Bachelorette. And it's just crazy

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Speaker 1: to think about that we've already aired ten whole Bachelor

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Speaker 1: Goat seasons because I feel like it wouldn't buy really fast,

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Speaker 1: but it was. I love the guests that we had

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Speaker 1: on and some of the past Bachelork contestants that I

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Speaker 1: feel like usually we would have never had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to bring on. So we have to think the recapping

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Speaker 1: of the old seasons to have these women on. But

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Speaker 1: you know, where did the time go? It's crazy to

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Speaker 1: think that one Pablo season is going to be jump

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Speaker 1: starting Claire's season, and I cannot wait for the countdown

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Speaker 1: to begin because I have a feeling her season is

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Speaker 1: going to be one of the as Chris Harrison would say,

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Speaker 1: most dramatic seasons ever. Yeah, they need a new word

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Speaker 1: for Claire season. Whatever is gonna I've never seen so

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Speaker 1: many rumors flying around, so much speculation. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: get it. Times are hard, We're in desperate need of

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Speaker 1: content and Bachelor Nation news, and so people are just

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Speaker 1: creating their own stories. And I've seen some of them.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some of them, and I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, guys, it's ridiculous, Like, let's just all take

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Speaker 1: a beat and realize that it is not plausible for

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Speaker 1: some of this stuff to actually be happening. Something you

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Speaker 1: said to Becca one Pablo season is going to jump

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Speaker 1: start Claire season. Who would have ever thought that would

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Speaker 1: be the case, right, No one. I think anyone saw

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Speaker 1: it coming. I've never even I had never even seen

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Speaker 1: one public season like Full Out when it aired. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't watching the show then, but I've heard the horror stories.

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Speaker 1: It's like, once you start getting your Bachelor Nation history.

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Speaker 1: They always talked about one Pablo season, and never did

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Speaker 1: I think we would be seeing it again, And never

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Speaker 1: did I think that that would be what started Claire's

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Speaker 1: season for the Bachelorette, you know, like what an entrance,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like one of the introduction

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Speaker 1: to her season. So I think that just shows, you know,

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Speaker 1: you never know what's gonna happen in Bachelor Nation. They're

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Speaker 1: full of surprises. There's so many twists and turns because

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Speaker 1: let's just admit it, we're all crazy, and so you

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Speaker 1: never know us gonna go down. But yes, the time

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Speaker 1: did fly by with this Bachelor greatest seasons ever. It

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Speaker 1: flew and now it can just fly away. We don't

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Speaker 1: need to see it. But it was great to reminisce

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Speaker 1: and like you said, and to be able to talk

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Speaker 1: to like some of our legends in this whole Bachelor

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Speaker 1: Nation world. And so I mean, part of me is

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Speaker 1: exciting to see Juan Pablo season, and for multiple reasons, right,

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Speaker 1: like number one, Claire, Right, we get to see Claire

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Speaker 1: do her thing, we get to see the rise of Claire,

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Speaker 1: we to see her tell Juan Pablo off. And then

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Speaker 1: also we get to see our girl, Andy Dorfman, who

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Speaker 1: also had an epic tell off from what I'm told

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Speaker 1: of Juan Pablo seemed to be a theme of that season.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of Andy Dorfman, not only was she on

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Speaker 1: Jan Pablo season, but it was on her season that

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Speaker 1: we were first introduced to Nick viall my ex boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Remember how I used to say that I feel like

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Speaker 1: everyone's ex boyfriend boyfriend to Sha too, Sha, more than

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Speaker 1: anybody else can say. So now, grant listen, we were

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Speaker 1: introduced to him like six more times, which is why

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Speaker 1: you say he's everybody's boyfriend right after that. But if

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Speaker 1: I want for Nick, I wouldn't be sitting right here

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Speaker 1: on a zoom call virtually talking to you right now.

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Speaker 1: So for that alone, I love Andy Dorfman period, But

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Speaker 1: I also love her for so many other reasons. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she is my sister in the law. You know, she

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Speaker 1: paved the way for lawyers on the show. And according

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Speaker 1: to my r DMS, our little baschlor Happy Hour listeners,

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Speaker 1: you all love Andy just as much as we do,

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Speaker 1: and that's why we listen to you. We did, we

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Speaker 1: heard you, and guess what, you guys, we got Andy

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Speaker 1: Dorfman on the podcast today. So I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: get her on and ask her all of our questions

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Speaker 1: and your questions. Yes, I'm so excited to have Andy on.

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Speaker 1: She is one woman that I met her for the

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Speaker 1: first time in person at the Bachelorne reunion that we

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Speaker 1: just she's just such a good, like spunky woman just

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Speaker 1: always like she's just open to everyone. Like I remember

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Speaker 1: watching her interact with some of the fans from like

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Speaker 1: I mean because her season, what was I don't even know,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't want to like age anyone, but like

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Speaker 1: five six years ago. It was sixty years ago, yeah,

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Speaker 1: these people came up to her and they're like Andy,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, you're wrong. People love you. But yes,

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Speaker 1: as you said, we've been wanting to have her on

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Speaker 1: and chat with her for a while now, and I

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Speaker 1: think she's the perfect guest to round out the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: Greatest of all time. So if you guys don't follow

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Speaker 1: Andy on Instagram, she has this amazing running club and

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Speaker 1: for somebody who doesn't run. I'm even inspired by her.

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Speaker 1: It's all the Endorphins, which is obviously a very cute name.

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Speaker 1: It's a play on words, and each day she sets

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Speaker 1: running goals for her followers, which got me thinking, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: you know I love a good club. I'm all about

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Speaker 1: like I started this random cross stitche club like a

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Speaker 1: But I made one cross stitch and that was about it.

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Speaker 1: So maybe I should pick it back up. But speaking

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Speaker 1: of clubs, if you had one, what would it be,

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Speaker 1: What would the name of it be? What goals would

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Speaker 1: you set for your followers? Because everyone needs a new

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Speaker 1: this year. Yikes, that's a tough one. That's a tough

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Speaker 1: Back at I even was like, you know what Andy

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Speaker 1: does it? She looks awesome. She seems like she's in

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Speaker 1: great spirits, you know, like it's it's also about the

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Speaker 1: purpose of them. Obviously it's to create a community, but

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Speaker 1: I also think it's about accountability. And I'm saying all

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Speaker 1: what is something that I struggle with? Consistency? And I

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Speaker 1: start a meditation club. I really have found meditation to

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Speaker 1: because if there were a spectrum of being positive and negative,

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Speaker 1: People call it being real being more realist, and Brian

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Speaker 1: good balance and I'm aware of it more. But if

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Speaker 1: it really beneficial. And there's so many ways that you

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Speaker 1: my dog. It's great. But if I had people holding

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Speaker 1: me accountable for it, like did you meditate today? Have

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Speaker 1: of all love that my mom has. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I just said that, Like I'm English my mom. My

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Speaker 1: mom meditates every day and she puts herself in the

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Speaker 1: things that I enjoy that I really love. And two

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Speaker 1: I also am like, I don't know what it's been

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Speaker 1: in the past year. I love true crime and like

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Speaker 1: with like I follow another podcast called crime Junkies. But

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Speaker 1: to start a club where, like here on my foods

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Speaker 1: and like talking about true crime, like each week we

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Speaker 1: would like, you know, you're making your ravioli talking about

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Speaker 1: Ed Gaen. I don't know, it really has no concept.

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Speaker 1: That's just what I'm going off of right now. But

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Speaker 1: I just love those two things. Um, I don't know

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Speaker 1: or uh killing killing the kitchen, killing it in the kitchen.

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Speaker 1: that wasn't been an excused. The excuse was that he

427
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: just didn't really care about a lot of us, which

428
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: is fine, but don't like waste our time. And you

429
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: both probably know that, having been in the position where

430
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: you're responsible for twenty five guys and yeah, you know

431
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: you don't get to cut everybody on night one. But

432
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: there's a fine balance between like letting it go to

433
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: a certain point in involving people's families when like you

434
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: just don't genuinely care. Yeah, yeah, right, Why are you

435
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: happy they're not showing your season? Because I wouldn't want

436
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: them to show mine either, So I mean, but I'm

437
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: just curious as to, like, I mean, to your marryat

438
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: of reasons. Obviously the nick part, it's like, Okay, I

439
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: don't need to relive that I don't like watching myself

440
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: on TV anyways, like I cringe and I'm just like,

441
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: oh that alt of the choice or oh that remembered

442
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: that face, Like it's just I donated. I'm good on

443
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 1: Bachelor World, But can I just say that you were

444
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: my motivation as to how I wanted my season to end.

445
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: I like, I did not watch your season at the time.

446
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: I was the Bachelorrette, but you hear so much about

447
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: different people, and I would ask questions, So I specifically

448
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: ask questions about you because you were an attorney and

449
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: then like you had reached out to me too when

450
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: I was announced and they told me how you got

451
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: to send someone home before the royal ceremony and I

452
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: was like, adamant, I said, I will do whatever you want,

453
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: but I want an ending. Before I even met the guys,

454
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: I was like, I want an ending like Andy season. Yeah,

455
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: I have two people standing up there, and I think

456
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: that's what bothered me and still to this day, and

457
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: like Nick knows this that bothers about it. It's like

458
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: he's always kind of like treated I would say Caitlyn

459
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: in a nicer way publicly than me, and I'm like, dude,

460
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm the one that like didn't make you get down

461
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: on one knee like I'm no one had saved you

462
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: from that, and then you blasted me on live TV

463
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: like I don't know why you're upset, but yeah, that

464
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: was a big thing for me, Like I'm sorry, but

465
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: if somebody's going to pick out an engagement ring, like

466
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: I'm not going to let them pick out engagement ring

467
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: knowing that I'm going to say no. Yeah. Yeah, it's

468
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: so crazy to think that because of Nick, I am

469
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: now talking to both of you. We also have Caitlin

470
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: because like if he brings people together in such this

471
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: weird way. And Andy, I wanted to tell you this

472
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: because so when it was my season, I met Rachel,

473
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: Caitlin and Joejoe, and they gave me this batched bible

474
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: like going into my night one with all the dudes

475
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: and I so I recently sent it off to where

476
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: they're filming the new season of the Bachelorette for her

477
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: to have. But one of the notes and I feel

478
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: like you would so love and to appreciate this was

479
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: said if Nick shows up, just say no dot dot dot,

480
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: and I have a photo. I have a photo of it,

481
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: and I think I sent it to Caitlin a couple

482
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: of days ago. I should send it to you, but um,

483
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: but it's just so funny how there's all these weird

484
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: incestuous tie like we've Rachel said it before, like it's

485
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: this incestuous family of like everyone's dated someone or know

486
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: somebody through and it's just like crazy to think because

487
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: all three of you women are so different in your

488
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: own unites. It's like, what is this type like the Bachelorette. Yeah,

489
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: strong women are for sure. Whoever's the Bachelorette might be

490
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: in nice. But it's funny. It's so true though, Like

491
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: it's so incestual. And I even think, like people don't

492
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: give my guys enough credit, Like we got out of

493
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: my guys, Chris Souls, that's still in the mix. Nick

494
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: obviously on Paradise, on Caitlin's season, and as his own,

495
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: that's still all in the mix, and like, yeah, those

496
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: guys are kind of the gift that keeps on giving. Yeah,

497
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: the whole like your season, Yeah, Chris Souls is the

498
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: bachelor after my season. Yeah, yeah, because Caitlin's on, say okay, yeah,

499
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: sometimes you're just like it all like blends in together.

500
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about Claire being the bachelorette.

501
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited for her. I mean, I think it's gonna

502
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: be It's hard because I know some stuff. I feel

503
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be difficult for her, knowing her and

504
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: knowing how like emotional she is and how much she

505
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: wants this specific outcome, and I've talked to her about

506
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 1: it and told her, you know, like the outcome's not guaranteed.

507
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be emotionally tough for her. Yeah.

508
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean again, I'm trying to choose my words carefully here.

509
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: I think we all are. I We have Claire on

510
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: the podcast, and Claire was very She's very matter of fact,

511
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: and she's the one who knows what she wants. And

512
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: I think that that's a gift and a curse when

513
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: it comes to entering this world, especially when you're so

514
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: far removed from it, because you almost don't want to

515
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: play along the same way that some people are too.

516
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: And then let's just add the fact that like it's

517
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: Palm Springs, it's hot, the devils. The Devil's on every

518
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: single day with you, and it's just like it's just

519
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: it's just too much, you know. So I think it'll

520
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: be it'll be interesting, I think, But I feel like

521
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: and I don't know how the season, like how it

522
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: all plays out, but I feel like people will enjoy

523
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: watching a Claire you fell in love with her for

524
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: as certain reason, and I think people will really love

525
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: to see her tape control because I think that's the

526
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: type of bacheloret she's going to be. I mean, look,

527
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: her motivation will never be questioned, like she is absolutely

528
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: going in there to find a husband. And my advice

529
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: to her I had already before she left, was like, look,

530
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: I know what your motivation is, Like you're you're on

531
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: the right track with that. No one's going to question

532
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: like you're reasoning for being there. But if that person

533
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: isn't there, you don't have to, you know, manifest a

534
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: husband out of this, Like there's no guarantee. So I

535
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: don't think interesting to see. That's my only thing with

536
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: it being tough for her is I don't know if

537
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: she's willing to like open up a little bit and

538
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 1: have this potentially not work out. And that's scary, by

539
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: the way, Like you feel like you've got one shot

540
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: at this. We all know that feeling, like, and some

541
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: of us have probably made some decisions that weren't right

542
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: based on that feeling myself fluted. And so like you

543
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: think you've going got one shot at it, and you

544
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: think you have to have this this ending that you

545
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: come in with within your mind, and truth is, it

546
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: doesn't always work out when you have that. I think

547
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: that's such a good point. And the fact that you

548
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: know we're all past batchelorettes, we can probably all relate.

549
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: Like the pressure, which I think that's the people don't

550
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: take into consideration when they're watching the season's back, is

551
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 1: the pressure on you is astronomical. It's like you you know,

552
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: like you go in knowing how the show works and

553
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: knowing that for the most where people usually get engaged.

554
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously it's been a little bit different

555
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: in so of the past seasons, but it's a it's

556
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: a hard thing, like especially for Claire to have had

557
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: some more time off prior to filming, like sitting in

558
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: the quarantine and like being able to like look up

559
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: the guys and know a little bit more to go

560
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 1: in being like I, you know, I have to make

561
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: this work some way somehow. And again, yeah, I don't

562
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: want to say too much, but like I just hope

563
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: she does it in her own way. Consider everyone. It's

564
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: so different. Andy. Speaking of that short, if it was

565
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: ever offered to you again, would you do the second

566
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: time around? Because the people are talking, I mean I

567
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: never say never. There you go. I don't think i'd

568
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: be good at at it the second time around, Then

569
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: that means you'd be fantastic. I really don't think i'd

570
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: be that great at it the second time around, because

571
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: you would be too, like you would know too much

572
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: of how it kind of works, or just more what

573
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: great I would want to watch you think, Oh, I

574
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I think I would just

575
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: be more um more matter of fact, like I would

576
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: want to probably cut fifteen guys on the first night, right.

577
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: But I think the reason I think you'd be great

578
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: is because they'd really have to step it up for you.

579
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean literally, you've literally written a book about living

580
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: a single life and dating in New York, and you

581
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: dated some heavy hitter hitters, and so I feel like

582
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: it's like they they couldn't they couldn't be like no offense,

583
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: but like I don't want to I'm not gonna call

584
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: itu a specific job, but it's like you couldn't have

585
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: somebody unemployed, you know, unless they have an inheritance with

586
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: the trust fun And I'm not saying it's not saying

587
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you're all about money. What I'm

588
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: just saying is it's like guys would just have to

589
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: you have to step it up. There's certain people you're

590
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: willing to date when you're a lot younger and explore

591
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: it and figure it out. But you're in a place

592
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: in your life where you're settled and you know, and

593
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: you're you're grounded and you know where you're going, and

594
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: it's like you don't have time to date people who

595
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: are who are trying to figure out who they are.

596
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: That's I guess that's what I'm trying to figure out.

597
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: Like whether it be an influencer and all that shit.

598
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm just like I can't. I don't know. I will

599
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: give you a great season if they could pick those

600
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: type of in the right one. But I think also

601
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: how can those men take off? That's the other thing.

602
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: It's like it has nothing to do with the money.

603
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: For me, by the way, like I'm I'm driven by

604
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: I think ambition is so sexy and a guy like

605
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't hear what you're doing. And so my question,

606
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: this is what I kind of thought about on my season.

607
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: It's like there's only a specific amount of people men

608
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: in particularly that can just like take six to nine

609
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: weeks work. Maybe if they had like a workstation at

610
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: the Bachelor mansion, how about that, like, yeah, something to

611
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: it where it's like these people taking nine weeks off,

612
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I didn't put a hitting camera

613
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: in the corner and see who's actually getting work done

614
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: and who's like on their Instagram checking to see how

615
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: many followers they have or how many girls you know,

616
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: And I'd like to throw some exiting there. Yeah, yeah,

617
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: like five xs to compare them too. But this works

618
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: so easily because it's right, like, as the lead, we

619
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: need to be the ones who are protected from searching

620
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: on the internet, so we don't look at our guys

621
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: for the guys you're in, you know what I mean,

622
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: Like I mean, unless you're going to google somebody to

623
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: tell on them, you know, to the lead, it doesn't

624
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: really matter if they're on the internet as much, you

625
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Did you quite your job? I

626
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: got to do well. I took leave, but I took

627
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: two weeks vacation, and then I just came back eight

628
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: weeks later. Sorry, did you think you would be gone,

629
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: like you know, week by week for you're like, oh,

630
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm still here, like because when I left, I was like,

631
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: my mom will see you in two weeks, yep, I do.

632
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I packed the two suitcases. I actually the first night,

633
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: it kept getting later and later. You know how they

634
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: have us in the hotel room for the first row ceremony,

635
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: and I thought for sure by like ten pm, I

636
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: was like, I'm definitely an alternate. I didn't even think

637
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: I was going to make it into the mansion the

638
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Speaker 1: first night. And then I was like, definitely getting caught

639
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: night one. Like everyone has that fear, I feel like,

640
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: and so I packed for two weeks. I packed the

641
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: two suitcases like they said everyone else brought like five

642
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: pieces of luggage. I ran out of close like three

643
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: weeks and I showed back on the work. I was like, sorry,

644
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: I didn't realize I was gonna be there that long.

645
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: I think everybody does that. I definitely told my boss.

646
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, black girl goes five really fast.

647
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll be I'll be sit home in

648
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: like two weeks lately and then I then I came

649
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: home after nine weeks and then took another two weeks off.

650
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not mentally ready to come back.

651
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous, just us, just yeah. So Andy, you

652
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: shared this post on Instagram that Becca and I both

653
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: loved and if real, the three things to keep private

654
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: your love life, your bank account, and your next big move. Um. So,

655
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: while we won't ask you about your your bank account

656
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: and never never never speak you, never speak of money,

657
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: we are nos either. We are nosy, and we want

658
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: to ask you about your love life. U. We know

659
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: we shouldn't, but who are you dating? We shouldn't ask this,

660
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: but who you know? One? Okay though? From us? Yeah, yeah,

661
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: I've got a list. We've got a list. I love

662
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: to match make. I always brag on this. I have

663
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: set people up who've been married more than once. I

664
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: think I'm really good at this. And yes I will

665
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: toot my horn. I think I am great at setting

666
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: people up. Um, but have you tried to date during

667
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: the pandemic? I mean, I know you had a big move,

668
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: so that's a lot in itself. It's like a whole

669
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: life adjustment. But like, does it look like to even

670
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: date right now during the pandemic. I don't know. Um,

671
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean I always a roster. Yeah, maybe we're all

672
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: playing in this season, but they're still you know, still

673
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: keep a roster. I always always keep a starting five. Always.

674
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: I lu trade sometimes you have to trade one out,

675
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: like whatever. I just don't. The thing is with dating

676
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, Like you can't go to a restaurant

677
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: or like you're not like meeting people at a bar.

678
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm kind of lucky that I've

679
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: just moved to LA and like figuring all that out

680
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: and starting new stuff with and orphans, Like I don't

681
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: really want a guy right now. Some of my friends

682
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: that are single, all they can do is rely on

683
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: the dating apps and like the internet. Not meeting guys

684
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: at a bar, you're not really like meeting them anywhere else. Yeah,

685
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: no one can. I mean in California, like you can

686
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: not really do much whatsoever. Besides Like I mean, I

687
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: was gonna ask, like, do you like when you go

688
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: out running, do you ever like stop and you're like,

689
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: oh he's kind of cute, or like go up and

690
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: approach anyone when you're I don't approach him but I

691
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: definitely do like the look back. I have no problem

692
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: doing a long, hard look back, and then I'm just like,

693
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go running with you one of these days.

694
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Nobody ever approaches me though, because maybe it's not working. Well,

695
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's hot. It's hot in California right now,

696
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, whatever, it's a good eye candy. Like, yeah,

697
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: so speaking of my endorphins. And we talked a little

698
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: bit about this prior to having you on, but I mean,

699
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: we personally think it's amazing. We s like, I mean,

700
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, I messaged you a couple of times, like

701
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: I've taked doing Instagram, like I cannot run more than

702
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: two miles. I don't know what my deal is. I

703
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: need you in my life to help me. But like, truly,

704
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: what you are doing is amazing and we've seen it

705
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: just grow and grow and grow with each story that

706
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: you're posting and Instagram in feed post and it's just amazing.

707
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: So I want to know more about the how and

708
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: the why did you just you know, talk did you

709
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: decide to start doing that going I started during the marathon,

710
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: Like when I was training, I had like no idea

711
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: what I was doing In the start, I got paired

712
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: up with a coach in New York City. We did

713
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: this whole training plan and I would just like Instagram

714
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: story while I was running, and people kept messaging me

715
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: with their stories, and they started telling me the reasons

716
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: they were running, and they were really deep, like people

717
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: were either going through like postpartum depression. There were people

718
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: that were having in like dramatic weight issues, or people

719
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: that were depressed from breakups, all types of these things.

720
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, this is actually like a

721
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: community of people instead of just me and somebody that's

722
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: reposting all these things or reading these messages. I was like,

723
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: people want to hear this. So created the hashtag, which

724
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: everyone voted on, was and orphins. And it's funny because

725
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: things and it's like it's one of those hashtags that's

726
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: used exactly how a hashtag should be, where like you

727
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: click on it and it's everyone from around the world

728
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: is able to put that tag on and you can

729
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: find that inspiration from everybody else. Like it's not me

730
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: sitting there being like, hey, go do this or go

731
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: do that, it's other people doing it, and like I

732
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: feel like you can see how proud people are once

733
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: they've accomplished like one of the challenges, and I think

734
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: that energy kind of just has been growing. It's been

735
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: like a snowball and just getting bigger and bigger, and

736
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: so I guess I could go ahead and give it away,

737
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: but we're doing I know this is like an exclusive. Maybe,

738
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: um it's gotten so big that like Instagram, now I

739
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: can't just do Instagram. So we're going to do an

740
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: and Orfen app. Yeah yeah, yeah, I like it. Yeah, Yeah,

741
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: that's insane. Yeah, so that was part of the LA

742
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: moved too. But I kind of give a toushows you

743
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: don't mean, I don't say anything until it's like done.

744
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: I'll be like peace at the airport. I'm moving to Laho,

745
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: like what I'm like, No, this has been an amergenster

746
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: a month or so. But yeah, that's kind of the

747
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: next move, just to let Joe. But it's just cool.

748
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: Like I honestly just the experience that I had from

749
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: running the marathon and a lot of this is what

750
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: makes up the third book. Like I was in a

751
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: very specific like funk in my life when I ran

752
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: the marathon, and just what it did for me is

753
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: something that I just want to be able to give

754
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: other people the opportunity, like the way it changed my confidence,

755
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: the way it like just changed my life. And so

756
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: for me, it's just that experience for everyone else, how

757
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: because you know, I try to run, I can't, So

758
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: I'm just going to pick your brains. I'm sure that

759
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: there's listeners out there who are kind of like me,

760
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: who they hit their two mile mark and they're like, oh,

761
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: I can't keep that going, And especially like in the

762
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: LA heat, what advice would you give them to just

763
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: keep pushing through it and like day by day, just

764
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: keep working at towards whatever goal they have. I mean

765
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: there's a ton of it. Like first of all, that's

766
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: why we're doing the app with like the challenges on there,

767
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: so that you can kind of mix it up. I

768
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: mean it's very easy to like for running to get

769
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: mundane and you kind of pique at a certain number

770
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: of miles. I think, first of all, it's like setting

771
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: goals for yourself. But also I see running lessons like

772
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: an exercise and more of just my free time, Like

773
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: it's a one hour a day that I take for myself.

774
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: I put my phone on do not Disturb, listen to

775
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: some music like it's my own me time. And so

776
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: I think so often we get hung up on like

777
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: what the number is or how many miles you're doing,

778
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: and instead just like, hey, I've got forty five minutes

779
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: that I'm just gonna like to vote to me, like

780
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: I can walk it, i can run it, I can

781
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: do whatever. But like it doesn't matter the actual number

782
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: of miles. It's just like, think of it in a

783
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: different way. I think it is your own therapy, your

784
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: own moment of calmness. It's so true what you're saying,

785
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: because I was sharing the story before how I's like,

786
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: any I want to start running, I'm sprint, can you please?

787
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: And you took the time to design something for me

788
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: and I still haven't done it yet. I say that.

789
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: I know I called myself out on it, but it's

790
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: interesting when you're saying you were running and you were

791
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: recording yourself, and so many people were giving you their

792
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: reason for running. And I think that's so important because

793
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: I grew up running track and I ran as a sprinter.

794
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: So it's like always a goal. You're always trying to

795
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: beat the clock. It's there's no purpose behind it other

796
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: than to win. And I've never run for a purpose.

797
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: Except very recently in May, I have not run outside.

798
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even know the last

799
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: time I ran outside. But everybody was doing the run

800
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: for a mod aubrary and I was like, I'm gonna

801
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: get out and I'm gonna run. And that is the

802
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: only time in my life I have run for something

803
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: that didn't have to do with me. And it was crazy,

804
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: how the time how fast. Now I walked a little

805
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: bit as well, but it's crazy how fast the time went.

806
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. But yes, so I think it's

807
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: so important. So to answer your question back, I guess

808
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: for me, what gave me the motivation and it sounds

809
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: like a lot of endorphins was to have a purpose

810
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: for running that was bigger than myself. Yeah, and that's

811
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: what mentally pushed me to get there. It really, it

812
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: really helps. And then it comes in like all different forms,

813
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: like even if it is about you, or even if

814
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: it's like I started running because I was traveling and

815
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: I'd be somewhere when wouldn't be a gym or whatever,

816
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: and I started running and seeing cities by foot, and

817
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: like the way you see even your own neighborhood by

818
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: the foot is so different than how you're driving by,

819
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: like let's all golf or run just like look at

820
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: how Yeah you know I'm not gonna buy that, Like yeah,

821
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of just like incorporating like a run into

822
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: things that you may or may not already be doing.

823
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: Like it's so but you see the world differently. Yeah,

824
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: and it's something that you, like you said, you can

825
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: do really at any point wherever you're at. You don't

826
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: need weights, you don't need bands, you don't need a parachute.

827
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: That's it anything, Yeah, exactly. And before you got on actually,

828
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: originally I were joking about if we were to start

829
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: a club what it would be and Rachel to play

830
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: into what you were saying, like for meditation, like it's

831
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: even running could be that for you or for me

832
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: because I want to join your meditation club. Great. I

833
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: feel like running would be great for you. Actually, I

834
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: know it would. It's just a mental block because I'm

835
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: like very up up tight, I'm very type A and

836
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: I know I would release a lot if I ran. Um,

837
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: I know it would, And I'm gonna put this. I'm

838
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna everybody hold me freaking accountable. I truly have no

839
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: excuse being out here in LA with this one. I mean,

840
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a good mile behind you, but it

841
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'm sure if you're a mile accountable. If

842
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: you're a mile behind Andy, I'm like five miles behind

843
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: you both. I'm also kill you to run a freaking marathon.

844
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: I hope I'm a mile ahead. I'm like, come on,

845
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: my friends, so you guys can look for me. I

846
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: bet I'm not far from you because I'm just like

847
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: on the other started the freeway from you, Andy, So

848
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: it's probably like I'll run to you and then no,

849
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: but I run with my friends, you guys, honestly, Like

850
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: I'll run with my girlfriends that don't run at all,

851
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, I feel so bad. It's like

852
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: not a workout for you. I'm like, it's not about

853
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: the workout, like I'll stop, I'll walk, Like if you

854
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: look at the challenges, most of them have walking involved,

855
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: because it's just about like getting out there. And I

856
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: ran with a friend the other day, um who did

857
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: the brent Wood Loop and it's like two miles and

858
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: she still wanted to go. I was like, you want

859
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: to go one more? And she was like, I don't

860
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: think I could do it. Like shit. I was like,

861
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: we can just like walk if you can't do it.

862
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: She did it, and she was like, fuck, I feel

863
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: so good. I'm like, see you like you never regret

864
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: going to actually while like you're never gonna regret going

865
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: for a run. I have to ask, are you when

866
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: you run with like your friends or with anyone, are

867
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: you a talker? Are you a runner and talker at

868
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: the same time. I can be because I have one

869
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: friend who back him in a side think I am.

870
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm oh my god, I'm not. I'm like, I'm just

871
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: trying to breathe right now. I'm trying to stay live.

872
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: And one of my best friends always talk to like

873
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: wants to have this conversation. I'm like, can you just

874
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: tell me a story and I'll run next to you

875
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: and like go try to go at the same pace.

876
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah no, actually been I'm not a conversational it's been running.

877
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't if I run with someone, I

878
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: don't like to stick my head one and listen to music.

879
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: But if I but I'm not sitting there like talking

880
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: the whole time, I'd be completely out of brad. Yeah, yeah, no,

881
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: I would be like, don't talk to me, just just

882
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: just just don't talk to me. Let me just get

883
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 1: for this pace please, that might make me run faster.

884
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: We make you a playlist, Rachel, like you're doing it.

885
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm I'm there, I'm I'm yeah, I'm trying

886
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: to get I'll trade out. I'll do something outside of

887
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: my comfort zone. You're getting. We talked about I'll do

888
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: or no. No, do you hate yoga? You hate yoga?

889
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: You don't like yoga. That's what I'm doing. Man, that's it,

890
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: you guys. She can't stay yoga right behind me. I

891
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: have three yoga mats. We can move all of the furniture.

892
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: I got the hardwood floors. We're doing it. Yeah, I'll

893
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: do something like because I love yoga, I clearly don't.

894
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: I've never done a peloton in my life. Is that

895
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: like I should say I've never done a peloton. We'll

896
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: all switch. You come over and you swat peloton one

897
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: and then you're doing wine after yeah. Oh yeah, so yeah,

898
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: that's all you need. Front towards the bottle in New York,

899
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: to the bar. I would see your stories. You would

900
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: just treat yourself to like a cocktail or some bubbles.

901
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's God, she's doing it right, That's what

902
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: I used to go at least a booze. I'm like whatever,

903
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: running to the bar. Something that you said earlier that

904
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: I want to touch on because we've already talked about

905
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: you being a two times New York two times New

906
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: York Times bestseller. Um do I say that? Right? Yeah?

907
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: It's just the Times the Time Listen, it's because I'm

908
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: not one, so you know, I don't get me right,

909
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: I have two times New York Times bestseller. You mentioned though,

910
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: because we've been on this whole conversation about running and like, naw,

911
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pumped. If it wasn't so hot where I

912
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: am right now, I would literally get out and run

913
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: bare foot. I don't even my running shoo, it's just barefoot.

914
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm pumped to the pool. Um. But you said that

915
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: your next book, or at least some of it, will

916
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: be about you know, running the marathon and why you

917
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 1: got into that and where you were in your life.

918
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: And I'm very curious because you're writing your third book

919
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: and like most people, a lot of people stop at

920
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: one right because they don't have either they don't have

921
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: that much to say or people realize it's very very

922
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: hard to write a book, and you're on your third

923
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: one here, so I'm very curious, like have you always

924
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: known what exactly that it is that you want to write?

925
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: And whatever you're answer me be how is it that

926
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: you get your ideas for your books? Great question actually,

927
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: because it explains why the third book is taking longer.

928
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: So the first book, you know, I journaled the breakup.

929
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: That was kind of like an easy one to get out.

930
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: The second one, I moved to New York. There were

931
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: like plenty of stories there for that. And the reason

932
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: that it's taken a while for the third book is

933
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: because like you can't just make stuff up in your

934
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: life like that's you know, a fiction book, which is fine,

935
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: but for me, it was like I kept trying to write,

936
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: trying to write, but there was nothing really going on

937
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: with my life, which ends up being part of the book.

938
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: I had just kind of like hit that lall. I

939
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: didn't have the motivation. I didn't really have anything to

940
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: write about. And I will say that, like the ending

941
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: for this book has obviously shifted, like it was going

942
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: to end at a certain point and now look where

943
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: we are and so the ending changes. So you have

944
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: to be like open to like let the story come

945
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: to you. I think you can't force the stories. You

946
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: can't force the life that you're writing. You kind of

947
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: have to just live life and see where it goes.

948
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: If it takes you five years, it takes you five

949
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: and like, and I've really really learned that with this

950
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: third book. I had to just take a deep breath

951
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: and be like, I can't force these stories. Like they

952
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 1: will come eventually, and when they do, you know they'll

953
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: be as raw and as you know, genuine as possible,

954
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: and you just have to kind of like wait for it.

955
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm so impatient, Like that's the hardest thing to I'm

956
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 1: one of the most impatient people. Like, but I feel

957
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: like we've all read books where the ending is mediocre

958
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: and it leaves you want and more and it lacks.

959
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: And so I think that that's good that you have

960
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: the wherewithal in the mindset to be open to waiting

961
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, and I do that right ending, Yeah, finding

962
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: the ending, and like, also for me, it's so personal.

963
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I you too know this, Like my method

964
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: of like communication voicing my feelings is definitely through writing.

965
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: I've learned that it's not on social media. I just

966
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: I convey my feelings when I write, and so for me,

967
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: it's something that's always personal, and so I want to

968
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: take that time and want it to be like carefully

969
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: crafted and in a way that's obviously raw and real,

970
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: but it's so personal to me. Yeah, I can't wait.

971
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: And I know it might not even be an ending.

972
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: It could be the start of your fourth or fifth

973
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: and sixth book. I think you should after this, you

974
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: should write a fiction book. I think it would be

975
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I would write a fiction book,

976
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: but I'm too terrified too, because I would, like, I

977
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: think I'm too funk of an head, Like when you

978
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: start thinking of the stories that you can go like,

979
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: oh shit, I think we're gonna be a fucking wa

980
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: sounds that sounds like a movie to make, sounds like

981
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: a page turner already, and we're gonna find out how

982
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: whack I am. But you know what, no one's gonna know, like,

983
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: and no one would know, like what is your story

984
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: or more of the character that you're writing, your characters

985
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: that you're writing about. You can kind of weave them

986
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: all together. I mean, I could tell a story or listen,

987
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I say because I'm like, man,

988
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: I could write a fiction book off my twenties, but

989
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: you would like loosely based off the life that I

990
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: lived before. Oh man, come on. I always tell people

991
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: when they're like I want to write a book, I'm

992
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna do it, Like what about the publishing When I'm like,

993
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: before you get to the publisher, you got to write

994
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: a book and just start writing, like I literally write

995
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: all the time, like everywhere. I have fun too, but

996
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: I love the old school note book, the composition book,

997
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 1: and I write my notes. I write on my notes

998
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: a lot. Yes that come you ever go back and

999
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: look at and sometimes when you're like I do because

1000
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm big in manifestation and so there are things that

1001
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: I have written that have come to fruition, Like lately

1002
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: things have really come to get So I'm very big

1003
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: on that. Um so I'd like to go back and

1004
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: look at things like that. I always take notes, like

1005
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: before bed, if I'm like, well, this is let's say,

1006
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: like like a guy or something begin to fight, I'll

1007
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: like type the note down and then if I still

1008
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: want to send it the next morning. Copy base usually

1009
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: it's like a delete that one, but even like a

1010
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: voice I do voice. Oh that's good. I would love

1011
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: to just go into Rachel's voice. I will listen to. No,

1012
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: you don't delete actually, oh my god, m so andy.

1013
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: You obviously have a lot going on other than just

1014
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: like moving across the country and getting starting business, start

1015
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: of the country, a new book, like all the things,

1016
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: like besides what we touched on, what else can we

1017
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: see from you? Is there anything else that you want

1018
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: to share with us? Uh? I think that's about it.

1019
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm making the babe cave here. I'm gonna have a

1020
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: bachelor pad for both of you to come crash out.

1021
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah awesome. No boys on the way, no babies on

1022
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: the way, just business. I guess. Hey that's a baby

1023
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: in itself. Yeah that's my baby, right yeah. Yeah, Like, seriously,

1024
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: you've got enough on your plate. I know. I get

1025
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: to be the father of this one. Yeah, no one.

1026
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: We'll talk back to you. Yeah. I love it, though,

1027
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: but I feel like the next time we'll talk to

1028
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: you have something else going And as you've always said,

1029
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: you don't like to make an announcement and soil like

1030
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: things are already happening, which I love. That's how I am. Like,

1031
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 1: like when when you know what's going to happen, yeah,

1032
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: then you make the announcement. So I'm sure you've got

1033
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: some other stuff cooking and we'll learn about it soon enough.

1034
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: Before we end, though, we got to ask you, of course,

1035
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: I know, a bachelor's centric question. So it was like

1036
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: waiting at our bachelor's stuff, like back to a happy hours.

1037
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: So you're interesting, You're interesting enough, Yeah, Like we want

1038
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: to talk to you and people want We've we've seriously

1039
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of dms and questions about you. People

1040
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: want to know what's going on, because she said, like,

1041
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: you're open, but you're also very private about what's going on.

1042
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, people really are curious as

1043
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: to who is this Andy Dorfman and what's going on

1044
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: in her life. Keep in my profile, that's the way

1045
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: to do it. Um. Okay, So, in anticipation of Claire's

1046
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: season and the Bachelor Greatest Seasons airing that thing, Um,

1047
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: we've done a lot of reflecting on our time on

1048
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: the show. Becca and I have, and we've got an

1049
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to some great people in the franchise.

1050
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: But we're curious to know from you. What's the best

1051
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: thing that came out of being on the show and

1052
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: what was the worst. We call this your Rose and

1053
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: your thorn. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's your thorn, was my

1054
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: ex Sure? Sure, yeah, uh my rose. Honestly, I would

1055
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: say just like this life. You know, It's funny every

1056
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: time I have like those moments where I'm like, damn,

1057
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm on the beach in California, like I live here

1058
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: with the you know, it always comes back to The Bachelor.

1059
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: It always comes back to like that being that pivotal

1060
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: moment in my life and just all of the good,

1061
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: like pinch worthy moments, i'd say, or the Rose and that.

1062
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: Do you check yourself? Oh? Sorry, very good. I check

1063
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: myself all the time. Like, for example, you're like, I'm

1064
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: sitting on the beach right now, you know, writing whatever

1065
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: it is that you're doing, just still camp the sun.

1066
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm always like, it's Monday, one twenty five pm. If

1067
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: I had never gone on the show, what would I

1068
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: be doing. I always do that to myself because it

1069
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: puts things in a perspective and it keeps me really mumbling,

1070
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: grounded and grateful for exactly where I am right now. Yeah,

1071
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: I love that I do that, and when people ask

1072
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: me like do you ever regret the show? That question

1073
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: always sparks within me like, hell no, look what I'm

1074
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: doing now, Look who I've met. I mean, I'm sitting

1075
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: here like talking to you people. I always joke like

1076
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: that scene from Titanic, you know, where he's like talking,

1077
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: He's like, well, talking to you all. You think of

1078
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: that scene and I'm like, you know what I'm saying right, like, yeah,

1079
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here and doing these things and having

1080
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: these conversations and meeting these people if it weren't for that.

1081
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: So always goes back to that moment. I will say,

1082
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: it's I mean, and I've asked all of the past

1083
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 1: Batchlottes that we've had on you know, do you wake

1084
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: yourself up like from a nap or in the mornings

1085
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: and pinch yourself and you're like to this day, like,

1086
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: holy crap, I was about Selorette like that, like was

1087
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: a big part of my life and it's led to

1088
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: so many things. I want to say, Andy, like you

1089
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: know because I followed your season and it's so funny

1090
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: that I'm sitting sitting here now talking to you because

1091
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: I remember when you first moved out to New York.

1092
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: You had posted a photo I think of you like

1093
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: drinking a martini and that was what five and a

1094
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: half years ago, I think you said when you had

1095
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: moved out there. And I was sitting with like two

1096
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: or three of my best girlfriends from Minnesota, you know,

1097
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: and this was pretty me being on the show. Like

1098
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: I was just like working in this small pr agency.

1099
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: We were sitting around drinking martini's and we're like, oh

1100
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: my god, like she's we're like her, like we would

1101
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: hang out with her, like she like we want to

1102
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: be friends with her. And the fact now of that,

1103
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: like we're sitting here talking, having this conversation and like,

1104
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: I know, once this podcast airs my girlfriends who in

1105
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: text and be like you and Andie had the podcast,

1106
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: how was she? All the funny things that like, you know,

1107
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: I still like, I so appreciate it and like you

1108
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: can never take anything for granted, because we really like,

1109
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: in a weird way, the show switches your life up

1110
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,479
Speaker 1: so much, but it leads to some really cool, great

1111
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: fun moments like this, yeah, and it's all like how

1112
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: you look at it, like you can look at it like, oh,

1113
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: the show changed my life and like look at all

1114
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: this pressure blah blah, or like you can look at

1115
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: as the show changed my life and look at all

1116
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: the cool shit I get to do now I just

1117
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 1: choose I get to do now, and all the cool

1118
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: clubs that we can be part of now. Oh yeah

1119
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: boy through YouTube seeing all, I like, I think I

1120
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: live for this too because I can't be out there

1121
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: and I love today like I was a serial dater

1122
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: and I since I I can't do it anymore, It's like,

1123
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: let me, let me just do it vicariously through my friends,

1124
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: let me help them out. Sounds like most of my

1125
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: married friends. Yeah, yeah, Like how can sometimes I do

1126
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: it just for you guys. Sometimes I'll just do the

1127
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: story just are and we appreciate it. Thank you. Andy.

1128
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: This has been so much fun. Definitely worth the way,

1129
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: but like fun, Like I feel like this was also

1130
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: very therapeutic. You know, like we can't just talk batch

1131
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: where we talk live, so we reminiscent like where we've

1132
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: come from and where we're going and sound like we're

1133
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: all going to la. Yeah, we're all gonna be together,

1134
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: so the world together much more. Andy, it has been

1135
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: such a pleasure. I mean, I'm going to text you

1136
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: after this to make oh you great. I love seeing you.

1137
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: How we's seen this. It's awesome, get ready for yoga.

1138
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: How just amazing and wonderful as Andy, I've always loved her,

1139
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: but it's always good catching up with her. I know,

1140
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: like she's she's definitely one of the first bachelorettes that

1141
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: you had introduced themselves to me. And she's somebody that

1142
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: I've always connected with, Like I feel like we have

1143
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: a lot in common and very similar personalities. But I

1144
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: really appreciate hearing your story about how the picture, like

1145
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: to go back and say, I remember her taking this picture,

1146
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: and you remember what you were thinking and how you

1147
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: were with your girlfriends. Like I love stories like that.

1148
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: It's almost like you manifest at that moment and like

1149
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna be me. Only you're not just friends with her,

1150
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: you actually became the bachelorette as well and had a

1151
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: journey like she did. I think that's so cool. Yeah,

1152
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: and you know I And that's the thing, like throughout

1153
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: all of these recaps of former seasons, like it brings

1154
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: people together in such a weird way, and we have

1155
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: all these amazing women on that we probably would you know,

1156
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: I would hope that we would have had Andy on

1157
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: at some point, but because she was on one public

1158
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: season and world really connected, it's perfect timing. But I mean,

1159
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: she is killing this life. Yeah, like she has so

1160
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: much going on. She's always had a lot going on,

1161
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: but it sounds like she's really taking time for herself

1162
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: to know, like's what the best move and next steps

1163
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: are for her. And I love that, And I think

1164
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: a lot of women and men out there listening can

1165
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: relate and really like take note and learn and maybe

1166
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: join her running club with us. Absolutely. And one of

1167
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: the things she shared that I also love is people

1168
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: think they see us, they see the finished product. They

1169
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: think we're perfect. They think we don't go through our

1170
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: own issues or have our own struggles. And she shared, listen,

1171
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: when I got into running, I had a reason for it,

1172
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: which we'll learn in her book. But she talks about

1173
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: being in a funk. And I appreciated her being so

1174
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: open because, like she also shared, she's very private and

1175
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: she doesn't let people in and you should, like we

1176
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: should be telling people all of our business. But I

1177
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: appreciate it that she opened up to us and our

1178
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: listeners about that. And it sounds like there's going to

1179
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 1: be so much more to come with that in her book,

1180
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: and I can't wait. I'm so excited. I just can't

1181
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: wait to see her now that we're all in LA.

1182
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's going to be good to be close.

1183
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, whenever that book, whenever the ending is set

1184
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: and writing, you know it's going to be a good one.

1185
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: But everybody, thank you so much for tuning in today.

1186
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: What a fun episode, and of course we have really

1187
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: fun new episodes coming to you in the weeks to come,

1188
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: with some more surprise guests, so make sure you tune

1189
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: in in the meantime, Please keep writing to us on

1190
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: social you hopefully might now know where to find us,

1191
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: but if not, on Instagram, you can find us at

1192
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour and it's at Batch Happy Hour on

1193
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: both Facebook and Twitter. And last, but not least, don't

1194
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: forget to subscribe to our podcasts on Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

1195
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: or wherever you're listening to us right now. Okay, guys,

1196
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: before we completely end this episode, I did want to

1197
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: take just a couple of minutes to address what's been

1198
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: going on with me and in my relationship over these

1199
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: past couple of months. And although this is very difficult

1200
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: and quite a personal matter for me. I do truly

1201
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: value and care for all of our listeners and the

1202
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: questions and concerns that you've had these past few weeks,

1203
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: and so I just want to go ahead and share

1204
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: with you guys directly what I've been going through. So

1205
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: I want to preface this with I'm sitting in my

1206
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: apartment alone recording this by myself. I didn't think it

1207
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: was fitting to bring anyone else into this conversation when

1208
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: my relationship was only made up of two people, which

1209
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: was obviously myself and Garrett. And I know that there

1210
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: has been so much speculation and curiosity out there regarding

1211
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: where him and I stand. I've seen countless headlines and

1212
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: stories run by news outlets, and you know, countless Instagram

1213
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: posts confirming something that, to be honest, I don't think

1214
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: was anyone else's place or right to do. No one

1215
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 1: else has the right to confirm this unless it comes

1216
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: directly from the source and from the horse's mouth, which

1217
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: is this moment me. So I don't think it's going

1218
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: to come as a shock to anyone, but Garrett and

1219
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: I have decided to end our engagement. And if you

1220
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: have followed us on Instagram for the past couple of months.

1221
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: You'll have noticed that I spent a lot of time

1222
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. I was with family and close friends, and

1223
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: he was out on the West Coast doing the same.

1224
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: And we were really just trying to take time and

1225
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: gain some clarity on as to what was the next

1226
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: best step in our lives, whether that was together or

1227
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: as individuals. And after many conversations, we came to this decision.

1228
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't something that we just arrived at one night.

1229
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't based solely off of one Instagram post or

1230
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: somebody else's opinions or comments. There's much more to it,

1231
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: you know. There's any relationship, there's a lot of layers,

1232
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: and it's not for me to divulge details. It's no

1233
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: one's business other than what I'm telling you right now.

1234
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: But you know, for anyone out there who has gone

1235
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: through a breakup, you know that it's never easy. It's

1236
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: a roller coaster of emotions and you have these ups

1237
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: and these downs, and you just try to take it

1238
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: day by day and to navigate as best you can,

1239
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: which is why it's taken either of us so long

1240
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: to say anything. I think now that we've finally kind

1241
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 1: of come to terms with it and have been able

1242
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: to sit in this decision for a little bit. You know,

1243
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: we've realized that we still have so much love and

1244
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: kindness and compassionate our hearts for the other person. But

1245
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: sometimes people's paths just go different ways. And you know,

1246
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: we we went on this crazy TV show over two

1247
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: years ago in hopes of finding love, and we were

1248
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: lucky enough that we did. We really truly did, and

1249
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for that opportunity and to have had

1250
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: the two plus years with Garrett. Like I said, I

1251
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: still have so much love and compassion in my heart

1252
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: for him. And just because we've arrived at this decision

1253
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: now doesn't take away all of the years and the

1254
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: colorless memories that we've made together. You know, those will

1255
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: always be carried in my heart, and I'll always look

1256
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: back at this time in my life with so much

1257
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: gratitude and love. And it's it's really hard to be

1258
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: sitting here talking with you all today and admitting this

1259
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: a because I don't think anyone is prepped for giving

1260
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: like a public statement for a breakup. It's not normal

1261
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: and it's not something I ever thought i'd be doing.

1262
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: But we also thought that we had a future that

1263
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: would be set in stone. We thought that we'd buy

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Speaker 1: a house together and have a dog, and you know,

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Speaker 1: probably add children to the mix one day. And again,

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Speaker 1: life happens, and people sometimes drift apart and have differences

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Speaker 1: and they go their separate ways. So all I can

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Speaker 1: ask is that you please respect us as humans and

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Speaker 1: our privacy and growth to move on from this and

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Speaker 1: just allow us time as individuals to determine what's best

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Speaker 1: for us and how to navigate this difficult time. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't quite know how to end this type of

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Speaker 1: conversation other than you know, we do just need some

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Speaker 1: time to heal. But I also want to thank people

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Speaker 1: out there for you know, following our journey and supporting

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Speaker 1: us since the beginning. It really does mean the world.

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Speaker 1: And also to anyone out there going through a difficult

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Speaker 1: time or a breakup, just know that you're not alone.

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Speaker 1: All are emmy if you need to talk or vent,

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Speaker 1: because I'm here for you. Twenty twenty has been a

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Speaker 1: hell of a year. But you know, I'm not the

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Speaker 1: only one who's had to deal with this. I'm not

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Speaker 1: the only one who will ever have to deal with this,

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Speaker 1: and so it's important now more than ever to lean

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Speaker 1: on each other and just to give out a little

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Speaker 1: bit more kindness and grace to others out there, because

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Speaker 1: we could all use it with everything going on. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to leave it at that. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: listening to me ramble the past couple of minutes. But

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Speaker 1: now I just hope that from here on out the

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Speaker 1: rumors can be put to bed and that Garrett and

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Speaker 1: I can now move on into the next chapter of

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Speaker 1: our lives that's hopefully fingers crossed the best the best

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Speaker 1: ones yet. I don't know you know, but thank you.