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Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Camridgeedge.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome back to another episode of two Teas

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Speaker 2: in a Pod with myself and Trishelle. Hey, so let's

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Speaker 2: start with Southern Charms Season ten, episode thirteen. Now we're

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Speaker 2: still in the Bahamas and Shep is still shopping, so

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Speaker 2: everyone's getting ready for tonight's dinner. Shep asked Craig for

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Speaker 2: some advice. He wants to give Sienna the shark tooth

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Speaker 2: necklace when he sees her at dinner. Craig makes Shep

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Speaker 2: a deal. If Sienna hurts him to the extent she

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Speaker 2: did last night, the relationship will be over. Why is

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Speaker 2: Craig making a deal with Like, shouldn't that be Shep' steal? Like,

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Speaker 2: if she does this to me again, I'm done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I was wondering that because Austin was like, Craig,

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Speaker 1: you're a dick for saying this. I kind of think

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Speaker 1: that Craig at the time, we know now that's not true,

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Speaker 1: but he and Paige were in a good relationship and

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Speaker 1: a good spot. And sometimes when you're in a happy

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Speaker 1: relationship and you see someone like ship pining over a

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Speaker 1: girl and having this conflict. It's like annoying to you, Like,

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Speaker 1: I know, I kind of feel like I got annoyed

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Speaker 1: with people sometimes.

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Speaker 2: I like, I don't want to hear your relationship problems

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Speaker 2: like stop stop, yeah, yeah, I mean, this isn't even

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Speaker 2: a relationship. That's what's so annoying about it. It's like,

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Speaker 2: you met this girl online, you've seen her a couple

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Speaker 2: of times, and you're giving her shark tooths and telling

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Speaker 2: her your lover and you want to have babies. You're

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Speaker 2: you need help, you need big help.

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Speaker 1: It's weird, and I'm over the shark tooth necklace.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, in that moment, to me, I feel

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Speaker 2: like Austin, you know, became the voice of reason a

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Speaker 2: little bit. The shark tooop necklace would throw me over

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Speaker 2: the edge. SHEP isn't doing himself any favors. But I

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Speaker 2: will tell you when I saw the shark tooth necklace,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't what I thought it was going to be.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was something like my ten year old

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Speaker 2: son wanted when we went to like Hawaii and we're

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Speaker 2: at the gift shop. It was like a little you know,

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Speaker 2: like a little white tooth and a little black string.

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Speaker 2: It was the same, fancier same.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was chic and it look went with

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Speaker 1: her her whole look, And.

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Speaker 2: I thought, what is not chic is he gives them

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Speaker 2: to every girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the great White to Taylor, then the megaladon to

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Speaker 1: with her face. I would have been pissed if I

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Speaker 1: was Taylor. I'm like, she got the bigger shark.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think she was a little pissed off. I

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Speaker 2: think so too. Chef's the first to arrive at the

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Speaker 2: beachside dinner. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Also, they're in the Bahamas. That's her place. She's like

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Speaker 1: the representative, you know, per Se for the Bahamas. She

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Speaker 1: should be planning stuff. Why is he planning all this?

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Speaker 2: Because she doesn't give a shit, Trisha, she does not care.

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Speaker 2: She met this guy online, he's on TV. Oh sure,

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Speaker 2: I'll come film with you. And then after she went

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Speaker 2: and filmed with him. They planned before this, They probably

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Speaker 2: and then she had to film. So Sienna arrives and

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Speaker 2: they sit down to have a talk before every everyone

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Speaker 2: else arrives. Shep gives her the shark tooth necklace. Surprisingly,

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Speaker 2: she put it on right away. I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: she's into it. SHEP tells her how painful this whole

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Speaker 2: Taylor and Madison are face timing Leva on the balcony.

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Speaker 2: When Leva met Sienna at the dog birthday park, Sianna

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Speaker 2: not a long time. Oh, I know, And I remember

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Speaker 2: her saying that. Do you think by Sianna's saying that

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Speaker 2: she meant she was here for the cameras and not

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Speaker 2: to be Shep's girlfriend. I think so too.

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, Sianna is a girl that

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Speaker 1: is used to a certain lifestyle maybe, And I think that,

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Speaker 2: And then there was a shark too. She put it on.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, knowing what she knew, how the

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Speaker 2: Sianna is the girl that takes the gifts she's the

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Speaker 2: that's for sure. Chef tells Sienna that they are in love,

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Speaker 2: but she never felt that. Again, she had to remind

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Speaker 2: begin with. That that's still not enough for Shef. I

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he was completely spiraling, just the rambles,

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Speaker 1: He was like, it's like a death by a thousand

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Speaker 2: But he's accepting the fact that he can't fight for

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Speaker 2: someone who doesn't want him. She's still going to stay

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Speaker 2: for dinner, and Shep thinks they should make the most

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Speaker 2: of their last night together. Why do you think Shep

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Speaker 1: I just feel like he can't accept it. He is

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Speaker 1: so used to doing this to other girls. We've seen

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Speaker 1: him do it multiple times, Okay, to like probably three

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Speaker 2: Oh, so this is a pattern. So I didn't watch

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Speaker 2: the earlier season. So this is Chev's personality.

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Speaker 1: The earlier seasons are so good. I mean, girls normally

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Speaker 2: They love him.

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Speaker 1: He was actually very cute and charming, and I think

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Speaker 2: So karma is a bitch. Yes, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I've ever felt this level of secondhand embarrassment for

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Speaker 2: somebody like I do. For shop Like, I'm like, is

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Speaker 2: he gonna watch this back and go whoa? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Maybe, But I think he's getting like a lot of

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Speaker 2: But oh, I just think he's delusional. But not just me.

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Speaker 2: Everyone else shows up for dinner. Craigan Madison don't even

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Speaker 2: bother to say hi to siennap direct shep direct some

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Speaker 2: attention to the shark tooth necklace he bought for Sienna.

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Speaker 2: Taylor realizes that's the same necklace he got her when

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Speaker 2: they were dating, but Chef points out that he gave

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Speaker 2: Taylor a great white tooth and Sienna has a I

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Speaker 2: don't even know what it's called, Meldon tooth. Who's going

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Speaker 2: to tell Chef that you can buy these at any

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Speaker 2: booths on Myrtle Beach boardwalk? Like is this? Like I

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Speaker 1: He tried to explain the significance of it, and I

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Speaker 1: still don't quite understand it. And also, that's not a

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Speaker 1: But it's weird, and it's weird that he gave it

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Speaker 2: Back on camera. I mean, I mean, come on.

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Speaker 1: I did think something was funny at dinner that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask you. Yeah, whenever Rodrigo sits down and

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Speaker 1: he's like, I love this time of night. It's when

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, Tamra, is that what it's

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Speaker 1: like whenever you're at your cast dinner and you're just

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Speaker 2: Yes, when we were at cast dinner, it's like this,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, you look so pretty. Oh that's so great,

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Speaker 2: Oh how are the kids? And then it's like you

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Speaker 2: bitch by the time to me, you talk behind my back. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So she says they aren't in a relationship. So Santa

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Speaker 2: he's okay with that. Craig reminds Shep that he hasn't

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Speaker 2: the situation. Sianna asks what happened, and Craig tells her

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Speaker 2: you stressed him out so much that he's blacked out

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Speaker 2: and slept on the beach. So embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: The whole conversation at the table is embarrassing in front

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Speaker 2: I he is a forty five year old man, Like

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Speaker 2: this is I'm just blown away. But Nita pushes things

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Speaker 2: a little more, asking Sienna if she wants to be

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Speaker 2: with chef eventually or is this never going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Then Austin asked why she told Shep she loved him

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Speaker 2: but backed off immediately after. But did she really say

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Speaker 2: she loved him? Has she ever admitted that? Well, she

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Speaker 2: didn't deny it.

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Speaker 1: Also, I'm like, why did this girl not leave right

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Speaker 1: after the conversation with Shep where she ended things? Why

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Speaker 1: is she going to the dinner after I'm like, did

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Speaker 2: I don't know why she's still there, but it's like,

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Speaker 2: not only did she not deny it, she didn't even

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Speaker 2: But I mean, what we're seeing right here, I would

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Speaker 1: I mean, she clearly looks upset it's not going the

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Speaker 1: way she wants to, But damn she's She's been on

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Speaker 2: Crazy. SHEP decides to pulled Sienna aside and talk to

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Speaker 2: her away from everyone else. SHEP keeps telling her that

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Speaker 2: they are madly in love, but they miss their one

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Speaker 2: shot together. Sanna doesn't seem to agree with that narrative.

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Speaker 2: SHEP doesn't want her to get grilled by for another hour,

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Speaker 2: and she agrees that it's time for her to leave.

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Speaker 2: Sanna and SHEP hug each other goodbye, and she tells him,

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Speaker 2: don't hate me, shop, don't hate me. SHEP and I thought,

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Speaker 2: that's pretty telling, like you are not into him, but

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Speaker 2: you're not really expressing it that much. Just well, she's

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Speaker 2: very quiet. Yeah, I think she looked pissed to me.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I think she kind of realizes that she is

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Speaker 1: not coming off the best, and finally she's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting the hell out of here. But I mean this

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Speaker 2: On the back burner. I think that's what's going on here. Well,

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Speaker 2: I think she used SHEP, There's no doubt. But his

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Speaker 2: response even got cringier. How could I ever hate you?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, god, oh yeah, that was It

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Speaker 1: was really cringe to watch. He was like complaining to

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Speaker 1: the poor bartenders about her Oh my god, waiting for

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Speaker 2: When he went and talked to the bartenders, I was like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: stop but bad. I mean I've done that before. Like

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Speaker 2: if I'm in a very like very sad state or whatever,

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Speaker 2: I will like, you know, oh, I'll talk too much.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Shep could ever like just I mean,

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Speaker 2: And just like I suspect he's going to be a

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Speaker 2: I bet absolutely so. Craig follows Austin, so they continue

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Speaker 2: They finally make up. The next morning, they're all packing

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Speaker 1: He just needed one night away from Sienna to realize

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Well that's it for Southern Charm. Thank you

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