1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's camera. This budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: to do nothing. Space Forts. I still think it's interesting 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: President Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Politics colliding Floomberg Sound On, the Insiders, the influencers, the insides. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: than it looked in. You really have a divide within 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Team Trump. The President has to do exactly what people 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: sent him here to do, which is to get it done. 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f m h D two. 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: President Trump increasing pressure on Iran. Brian Hook joins us 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: from the State Department, and we will get a fur 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: full class briefing on the situation with regards to the 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: US maximum pressure campaign against Iran, plus the latest on 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: the twenty campaign and the US China trade talks. But first, 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: let's get a quick check of the news. A quick 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: quick check of the news from a good friend, Nancy Lions. Nancy, Thanks, Kevin. 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: We're still watching Hurricane Dorian. The storm is moving parallel 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: to the East coast. It's maximum sustained winds are down 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: to a hundred five miles per hour, but it remains 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: a category to hurricane. It's just east off Jacksonville, Florida. 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: It's moving near nine miles an hour. It is expected 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: to pass close to Georgia and the Carolinas. The UK 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: Parliament has rejected Prime Minister Boris Johnson's call for a 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: snap election October fifteenth. Johnson said that election was the 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: only way out of the deadlock that has paralyzed British 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: politics for the last three years. Back to you, Kevin, 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: thank you. Joining us on the line is Brian hook. 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: He is a U S Special Representative for Iran. He 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: joins us calling from the U S States Apartment. Brian, 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Thanks Kevin. Great to be 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: with you again. So earlier today, the administration has announced 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: a new additional sanctions against Iran and signaling that more 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: sanctions might in fact be on the way. Tell us 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: what the latest is. Well, today, the United States government 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: intensified our campaign of from an economic pressure against the 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Iranian regime. We have been sanctioning a massive um scheme, 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: shipping scheme moving oil around the Middle East that's found 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: its way to Assad in Syria and also to Hezbollah 41 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: in Lebanon. And we also announced today that the United 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: States will be giving individuals up to fifteen million dollars 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: who can provide information that can lead to the disruption 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: of the Iranian regime's illicit movement um of various goods 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: and services that eventually go to fund terrorism. So you 46 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: mentioned some of these ships, and I was really struck 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: by this Financial Time story that that that took an 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: inside look in terms of how the administration is trying 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: to to really go uh and get this situation settled. Um. 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: And according to according to the Financial Times, four days 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: before the U s and post sanctions on an Iranian 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: tanker suspect and of shipping oil to Syria, the vessel's 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: Indian captain received an email from a top Iran official 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: at the Department of State being you and essentially the 55 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: State's Apartment was offering some financial ties really to make 56 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: sure that this situation got resolved. Well, um, it is 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: the case. I think your your listeners have probably heard 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: about this oil tanker that was seized by japilter and 59 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: then it was released and it's moving its way to Syria. 60 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: The Iranian regime promised the United Kingdom that the oil 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: would not go to Syria. This is a shipment of 62 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: like a hundred and twenty million dollars in revenue. It 63 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: would be a big cash infusion for Assad and for Hezbollah. 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: So we're doing everything we can to stop it. We 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: have offered ship captains UM awards of many millions of 66 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: dollars if they will help facilitate our efforts to stop 67 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: that boat from reaching its intended destination of Syria. And 68 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: just to put this in context for folks, I mean, really, 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: this is happening in real time, and so many of 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: these ships, so many of these of this these financial 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: dealings have direct impart impact to the energy markets. Now 72 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: it does, UM, but I think the President has done 73 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: a good job of ensuring a well supplied and stable 74 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: oil market. When the President got out of the Iran deal, 75 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: Brent was trading at seventy four. One year later, we 76 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: took off almost three percent of the world's oil supply, 77 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: and m Brent was has gone down dramatically since then. 78 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: So UM, we have balanced our national security and economic 79 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: objectives pretty well. Very pleased with how much revenue that 80 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: we have denied the Iranian regime. They used the oil 81 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: revenue to fund their military budget, to fund their missile program, 82 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: their regional aggression, all their proxies like the Hoothies and Yemen, 83 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Shia militias in Iraq and Syria, hamas Um, a whole 84 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: bunch of terrorist groups. And so I think, by by 85 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: so many metrics, the Iranian regime is weaker today and 86 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: it's proxies are weaker today than when they were two 87 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 1: and a half years ago when we took office. Brian 88 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: Hooks on the line, he's the U S Special Representative 89 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: for Iran and senior policy advisor to the Secretary of State. 90 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 1: Just a couple more questions, Uh, France, and France's rolling 91 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: all of this because French, the French Finance Minister, is 92 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: trying to give Iran a fifteen billion dollar economic lifeline 93 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: for oil purchases. I mean, here you and I are 94 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: talking about the significance of these stable oil markets. And 95 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: so from a U S perspective, from President Trump's perspective, 96 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: the administration's perspective, what do you make of of what 97 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: the French are trying to do with this fifteen billion 98 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: dollar economic lifeline? Well, um, we don't have any details 99 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: it's it's existed somewhat abstractly, there's been um. I think 100 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: President McCrone has talked about a line of credit, but 101 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: we really don't have any specifics. What we do know 102 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: is that we're not The United States is not looking 103 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: to grant any exceptions or waivers to our maximum pressure campaign. 104 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: The President today, when he was in the Oval Office, 105 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: answered a few questions on this subjects. Certainly, people like 106 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: President mccron, Prime Minister Abbe, and many leaders around the 107 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: world would like to see a de escalation of tensions 108 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: in the Gulf. So would we. But the burden is 109 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: on Iran to start behaving more like a normal nation 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: and less like a revolutionary cause. They have a forty 111 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: year history of exporting this revolutionary ideology, trying to create 112 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: an Iranian crescent of power that extends from Lebanon all 113 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: the way down to Yemen, and we are standing up 114 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: to the regime in ways that don't have any historic precedent. Um. 115 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: We would love to see a new deal, one that 116 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: replaces the deal that we left over a year ago, 117 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 1: and that new deal would cover all of the threats 118 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: that Iran presents to peace and security, and just you know, 119 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: while we're we're while we're on the topic of France, 120 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean French President of Monuum Crown has been saying 121 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: that there potentially he'd be open to arranging a meeting 122 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: with President Trump and President Ruwani of Iran, maybe even 123 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: at the UN General Assemblar Is that meaning going to happen? Well, 124 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: as the President likes to say, we'll see anything as possible. 125 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: The President has now met with Kim Jong un three times, 126 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: and he's not afraid to meet with historic adversaries of 127 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: the United States. But he's keeping I think a very 128 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: close eye on achieving our objectives, which is to get 129 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: to a new deal that's permanent. The current Iran nuclear 130 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: deal starts expiring next year in October. We're only thirteen 131 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: months away from the U n Arms embargo on the 132 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: world's leading sponsor of terrorism expiring. And so, uh, the 133 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: Iran nuclear deal was not a permanent fix to a 134 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: really big challenge of Iran ever getting a nuclear weapons. 135 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: So we want to get to a new deal and 136 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: that's the President's focus. So and just final question for you, 137 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: because we you know, I mean, we're in the media. 138 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: We parsed every single word President Trump has been saying, quote, 139 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: we're looking for no nuclear weapons, no ballistic missiles, and 140 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: a longer period of time. Very simple. We can have 141 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: it done in a very short period of time. They're 142 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: a Secretary Pompeo has been saying that there are twelve demands. 143 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: Are the President and the Secretary on the same page 144 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: in terms of what the US wants from Iran? Yes, 145 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: the President and the secretary on the same page. They 146 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: they talk every day or meet every day. Uh, it's 147 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: it's a very good and productive working relationship they have. 148 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: Secretary Pompeo gave a speech after the President left the 149 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: deal outlining the twelve demands that we would like to 150 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: see so that we can make real progress on achieving 151 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: a more peacefull Iran. And there's different ways to express it. 152 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: It's definitely the nuclear program. But if if you look 153 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: at at at all of the statements the President has said, 154 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: he has talked about their nuclear program, the missile testing, 155 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: missile p f ration to the Hoothies and Hezbollah which 156 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: they used to strike Israel, and he's also talked about 157 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: Iran's regional aggression and it's hostage taking of Americans. This 158 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: is this is our agenda to get to a new deal. 159 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: All right, Brian Hook, We're gonna have to leave it there. 160 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: Even so generous with your time. We always are appreciative 161 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: of your time. That's Brian Hook. He is the U 162 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: S Special Representative for Iran. He's also a senior policy 163 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: advisor to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Coming up more 164 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: US China trade policy talk. We also weigh in on 165 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: the presidential election. Antoine ce rights here, as is Scott Transfer. 166 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli. You can download the Bloomberg Sound On 167 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by 168 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find us 169 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio and Spotify. You're 170 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg nine one. You're listening to Bloomberg Soundown 171 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: with Kevin Cirelli. I'm Tom Keene Tomorrow Morning at This 172 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surley on Bloomberg and 173 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: one or five point seven f M h D two. 174 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: Iran is not the same country. When I came into office, 175 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: Iran was absolutely a terrorist organization all of from fourteen 176 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: to eighteen sites of confliction, and they were behind every 177 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: one of them. And now you're not hearing so much 178 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: about that. We'll see what happens. That was President Trump 179 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: speaking earlier today at the White House about Iran Earlier 180 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: in the program where your course heard from Brian Hook, 181 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: he is senior advisor to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, 182 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: talking about the new additional sanctions that have been placed 183 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: upon the Iranians earlier today, that was announced from the 184 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: Treasury Department. Meanwhile, we're still awaiting in the weeks ahead 185 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: that u n General Assembly meeting, when the French are 186 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: saying they could potentially arrange a meeting between President and 187 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: Ironnian President Ruani. But foreign policy suddenly at the end 188 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: of the summer and heading into the fall, suddenly at 189 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: the forefront of the domestic political debate here inside of 190 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: the Beltway, joining me here in studio. We're thrilled to 191 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: have them both. Antoine sea Right, a Democratic Strategist, founder 192 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: and CEO of Blueprint Strategy and a former senior advisor 193 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: to Hillary Clinton, and also with us is Scott Transfer 194 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: It's his first time on the program or thrilled to 195 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: have him, CEO of Optimist and former data science director 196 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: for Marco Rubio's presidential campaign. He's a data guy. Scott's 197 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: a data guy, are you? I mean right? That is correct? 198 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: I can long divide in my head. Well as a journalist, 199 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm terrified of all math. But this issue of foreign policy, 200 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this. Just before 201 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: we came on air, CNN popped this story. Joe Biden 202 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: says he opposed the Iraq War soon after it started. 203 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: A check of his records says otherwise in a recent 204 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: In recent speeches and interviews defending his past foreign policy decisions, 205 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: former Vice President Joe Biden has misrepresented his past position 206 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: on the Iraq War. Uh. He has said that he 207 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: was against it very soon after we went to war, 208 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: he voted for it. But now the Iraq War, just 209 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: a week out from the third presidential debate, Scott is 210 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: back into the back into the mix. I feel like 211 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: it's the Republican primary. Oliver him. Yeah. I mean, you know, 212 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: whenever you come out and say something like he did 213 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: where it can be refuted with a video clip afterwards, 214 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: you can already tell we're in campaign season. When someone's 215 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: trying to stake something out um and the media does 216 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: its job and finds it again. Um, the interesting part 217 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: is is I don't think this will be the story 218 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: twenty four hours from now, and I think the numbers 219 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: are gonna show it. We got a debate coming up, 220 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: and uh, this is just another long line of gaffs 221 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: he's got and uh, it doesn't seem to be hurting 222 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: in IM polls. Has Iraq? Do voters in the Democratic 223 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: primary ands want to care about the Iraq war vote? 224 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely not, and we tell you why they did. And 225 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton would not have been the nominee last cycle. Look, 226 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think the cake 227 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: has already baked as relates to Joe Biden, and you 228 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: know his positions, what people how people view those positions, 229 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: and whether they're not they choose to support him as 230 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: a result. And so I think when these things come up, 231 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: the only thing it does, in my opinion, is strengthened 232 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. And it also shows the disconnect between the 233 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: Beltway bubble, the social media bubble, the people who want 234 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: to paint the narrative about Joe Biden to hurt him, 235 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: who would never before him, and to disconnect between actual 236 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: everyday voters. When you when you talk to regular primary 237 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: voters particularly African American voters who will decide who the 238 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: next nominee would be. They care about the war. They 239 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: have every single day of feeding their families and paying 240 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: their bills. They could give to flying cats about a 241 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: vote that maybe this story, I think it gives an 242 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: opportunity for Tulsey Gabbert. Did she she gonna be in 243 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: the next debate? She will not. She's not. Then, you know, sorry, 244 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: it's but it looks it looks like shell like that. 245 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: But I think to your point, to a spots point, 246 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: the folks who are not going to vote for Biden, 247 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: this is just you know, no one's going to be 248 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: swayed off of this is Scott. And there's this new 249 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: poll out in Wisconsin. I was struck by this Wisconsin 250 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: nine point right. Former Vice President Joe Biden leads Trump 251 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: and a hypothetical head to head matchup in Wisconsin, according 252 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: to a Marquette University Law School poll that was released 253 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: earlier today to about registered voters in Wisconsin. The President 254 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: also trails Bernie Sanders, but it's a it's it's just 255 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: barely outside of the margin of Eric to forty four. 256 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: Biden's got good numbers of Wisconsin The only thing I'd 257 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: say about the Markette Law pool and Charlte pulled Charles 258 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: Franklin is very good at what he does. In the 259 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: Markette Law poll is the gold standard out there is 260 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: he did have UM Senator Clinton leading Donald Trump leading 261 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: up to the election in Wisconsin UM and obviously didn't 262 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: tur and out that way. And it is of registered voters, 263 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: and as you know, Antoine would probably agree with me, 264 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: it's not registered voters that picket, it's the ones you 265 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: show up. And that's a smaller universe. So also, we're 266 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: what sixteen months out something like that, But if you're 267 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and you're trying to make the case, it's 268 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: gonna help if he's And the other thing about Joe Biden, 269 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: Kevin is that the most requested surrogate in the twenty 270 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: eight team mid terms for Democrats with Joe Biden. Democrats 271 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: swept the place in Wisconsin in the mid term, So 272 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: it's a different picture than it was in sixteen. And 273 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: when you think about the voters who show up in Wisconsin, 274 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: working class, white and black voters, uh, those people are 275 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: more favorable to a Joe Biden type candidate than anything else. 276 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: And the scared part should be for the Republicans and 277 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is. As I said earlier, the cake is 278 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: already debate when it comes to Joe bidenes negatives on 279 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: the start talking about time where you get you get hugged. 280 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: So therefore there's nothing that Rump campaign can do or 281 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: say about Joe Biden that people do not already know. 282 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: That's the hard part. I gotta put you both on 283 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: the spot because you mentioned Scott, you mentioned these polls. 284 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: The polls were so wrong in the last the last cycle, 285 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right to look at these polls into question, well, 286 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: are they have the pollsters recalibrated and recalculated all of 287 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: the voters that they forgot in Wisconsin, in Michigan, Ohio, 288 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania where I'm from, had they had they recalculated how 289 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: they're going to do these polls. You're the data guy, 290 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: tell us, yeah, so sorry, a little bit of nuance 291 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: and math and and you know, Wednesday afternoons. So what 292 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: I would say is the polls are right, and the 293 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: best polls are the ones done privately. There were private 294 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: polls that had Donald Trump ahead in Wisconsin. Um, those 295 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: are not the ones that you see on you know 296 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: New York Times or Bloomberg or any of the outlets 297 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: out there. Um. And the reason, yeah, always right. The 298 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: polls that are done privately are right. They are done 299 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: differently than the public polls. They're done with different sample frames, 300 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: which is how we call the data, whether it's through 301 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: cell phones or online or text messaging. They're also weighted differently. 302 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: The whole theory behind polling is is you have a 303 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: room full of a hundred people, and you want to 304 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: know what those hundred people think about, but you can't 305 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: ask all of them, so you can only ask ten, 306 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: and so you gotta make sure you get a representative sample. 307 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: You gotta make sure you don't talk to people who 308 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: are too old, too young, way too many males, way 309 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: too many females, way too many of a certain ethnic group, 310 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So you know, that's why it's 311 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: gotten better, and that's why the private polling is always better. 312 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: But let me let me, let me give you one thought. 313 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: The cake was not already baked for a third time, okay, this, 314 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: The soda did not already have ice in it when 315 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: they came to Downald Trump last cycle. People know who 316 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: he is, They know his body of where they know 317 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: what a Trump presidency will represent. So therefore the unknown 318 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: was an attractive factor for some. But there are people 319 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: who still are left out as a result of the 320 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: Downtump presidency, and those voters are any given cycle will 321 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: flip back and forth. And I would think Democrats have 322 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: expanded the universe when you look at who we attracted 323 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: in twin eighteen. I think that helps us in what 324 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about with all these voters is the economy, 325 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: and coming up, we're gonna talk more about the US 326 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: China trade policy and how it impacts the policy impacting 327 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: on these battleground states. Scott, I know you've been really 328 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: following these battleground states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, and 329 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: i'll get your get your take to crunch the numbers 330 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: on that front as well. Panel stays Antwine c right, 331 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Democratic strategist Scott Transfer, former data guru from Marco Rubio's 332 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: presidential campaign. Download The Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple iTunes, 333 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg Business App. 334 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: You can also find us on Radio dot com, I 335 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm Kevin CURRELLI Chief Washington, correspondent 336 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television, Bloomberg Radio. We're talking trade next, you're 337 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. Sound On with 338 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: Kevin Surley on Bloomberg and Old five point seven m 339 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: HD two. If I wanted to do nothing with China, 340 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: my stock balket, our stock market would be ten thousand 341 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: points higher than it is right now. But somebody had 342 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: to do this to me. This is much more important 343 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: than the economy. Oh boy. President Trump talking about my 344 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: stock market, his stock market. Earlier today at the White 345 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: House with regards to US China trade policy, no deal, 346 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: no deal as it relates on the US China economic front. 347 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: But but maybe good news. That's because well, I'm gonna 348 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: let President Trump tell it in his own terms. He 349 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: says China wants to make a deal. Here's President Trump 350 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: earlier today at the Oval Office saying China wants to 351 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: make a deal. Here is if I were China, I'd 352 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: want to make a deal. I can't tell you, but 353 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: I want to make a deal, and I can tell 354 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: you they do want to make a deal. We'll see 355 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: if we can do a real deal, not a fake 356 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: deal like the fake media deal a real deal. Joining 357 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: us here to talk about the prospects for a real deal. 358 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: Antoine ce Right, Democratic strategist, founder and CEO of Blueprint Strategy, 359 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: and former senior advisor to Clinton Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign 360 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: focusing primarily in the state the Palmetto State, South Carolina, 361 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: and Scott Tranners here as well. He's CEO of Optimist, 362 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: former data guru from Marco Rubio's presidential campaign. What do 363 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: the numbers say about tariffs? I mean, are are Americans 364 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: plugged into the nuance of what Wall Street and Main 365 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: Street obsess over and Beijing obsess over, or are they 366 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: primarily just watching their four oh one case and a 367 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: bit nervous about a looming recession. It's the latter most. 368 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: Most Americans. Their opinions and tariffs basically mirror their partisan politics. 369 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: It's funny if you look at pulling twenty years ago, 370 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: Republicans were against tariffs and Democrats want to use airs 371 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: to enforce, you know, their viewpoint on trade. Going forward today, 372 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: Republicans generally agree with the President in his tariff trade 373 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: war and Democrats, you know, oppose it. And so I 374 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: don't really think it's really affecting them, and we'll see 375 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: what it looks like in December around Christmas when a 376 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: lot of these these items that got hit are going 377 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: to be significantly more expensive. Kevin. Most people do not 378 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: even know what a tariff is outside of the bubble. 379 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: But what they do know is when they go to Walmart, 380 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: when they go to Target, when they go to some 381 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: of these places, and the prices of goods and services 382 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: that they need go up. And we can pen that 383 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: back to Donald Trump. That's when they feel. And if 384 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: you're a farmer, nine times out of nine, nine times 385 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: a nine and a half you voted for Trump, you 386 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: know what a Trump presidency has meant to your business 387 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: and what it would mean to your long term to 388 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: your long term financial billing. Hell, this is where I'm 389 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: gonna this is what I'm gonna push back on you. 390 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: Because the farmers also from their perspective, I've interviewed a 391 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: lot of farmers and what they say is, well, wait 392 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: a minute, we waited for decades as NAFTA god here, 393 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: as all of these trade deals got here. And I'm 394 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: not putting any Democrats on the spot, but they're saying 395 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: this is long and overdue. This fight that we're having 396 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: with China, whether it's over intellectual property, or whether it's 397 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: over commodities, whether it's over soybeans and swordom. This fight 398 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: that we're having with China is long overdue. And yes, 399 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: they're primarily Republicans, so they're sticking with their guy. But 400 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: there are Democrats and you know this, and being from 401 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: South Carolina Boeing Country, you call it God's country. It's 402 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Boeing Country, and you know this. Those supply chains are 403 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: absolutely have been pummeled by China for decades. So where 404 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: where's the opportunity for a Democratic candidate to seize here 405 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: and offer a new type of trade policy for the party. Well, 406 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: the opportunity for the Democrats highlight the immediate impact and 407 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: these terms we have. See what you're talking about, and 408 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: you're speaking to is the long term. Sometimes people do 409 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: not notice severity until they look down and see the 410 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: bleeding of field, the cut. These farmers now, at least 411 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: the ones I've spoken to, particularly African American farmers who 412 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: actually voted for the President uh in Si they see 413 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: the bleeding in the field of cut now and now 414 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: they realize that this is a danger to our long 415 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: term financial bill of Health, and I just want to 416 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: go over the calendar for for folks, just to kind of, 417 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, keep it on the US trying to trade 418 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: watch full trade watcher at Bloomberg all day every day. 419 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: And we're still potentially going to get Beijing's delegation headed 420 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: to six Pennsylvania Avenue to meet with the likes of 421 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Manution, Peter Navarro, the Larry Cudlow, the traders, 422 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: as President Trump refers to them as the traders. That 423 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: meeting potentially still could happen this month. The calendars crowded calendar, 424 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: so when potentially that meeting happens maybe around the UN 425 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: General Assembly meeting later this week, when uh everyone will 426 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: be in in the US for for that, and then 427 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: in December. And this is what I think some of 428 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: the mainstream presses starting to pick up on in December, 429 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: an additional round of terrorists. I was just on the 430 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Bloomberg terminal earlier today crunching the numbers. I'm not as 431 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: good as Scott with crunching the numbers, but you know, 432 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: the terminal helps me out. Every great terminal A hundred 433 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: and sixty billion dollars Scott a hundred and sixty billion 434 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: dollars worth of Chinese imports are going to be additionally 435 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: tariffed come mid December. The President had punted that, So 436 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, Republicans in your party. Let's 437 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: look at what he punted. It was really important. What 438 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: he punted until December fifteenth was things like the ram 439 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: that goes in your iPhone, the panels that you're gonna 440 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: be you're gonna be on your plasma TV that you 441 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: got from Costco. And that was on pressure because everyone exactly. 442 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: I mean that's that. That was what it was. And 443 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: to your point on terrorists, like terriffs is something that 444 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: that the president does not need congressional approval. He does 445 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: not need a two thirds vote, he doesn't got to 446 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: go through committee. He can wagh it up one day 447 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: and say, you know what I want tariffs. And so 448 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: despite us UM potentially getting a deal this week next week, December, January, February, 449 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: does not mean this doesn't come up again in June, July, August, September, 450 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: October during election season. If the President wakes up and says, 451 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: you know what that deal I struck nine months ago, 452 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: I think I can get a better one, and this 453 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: is what I just this is what I would just 454 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: politely disagree with, not with the general zeitgeist. Tom King, 455 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: there you are the zeitgeist of of Washington, d C. 456 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: And also Beijing in Wall Street, which is you're playing 457 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: at forward, Scott for six months, nine months down the road, 458 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: played forward, whether it's two years or six years. In 459 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: the Democratic administration, Democrats have been advocating in recent years. 460 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: Prominent Democrats have been advocating in recent years for tariffs, 461 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: and that could potentially come up at the next Democratic 462 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: presidential debate. Bernie Standards, Elizabeth Morren have been calling for tariffs. 463 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: It's a divide, it's a nuance divide, but it's a 464 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: divide in the Democratic Party right now just as much 465 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: as it is and the Republican I want to play 466 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: President Trump's take on tariffs because he the administration has 467 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: a different take on on how tariffs are impacting the economy. 468 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: Here's President Trump earlier today at the Oval Office. We 469 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: have a lot of money because of the tariffs we've taken, 470 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: and we've taken in tremendous many billions of dollars of 471 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: terrorists from China, and we will have a lot of 472 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: money to be helping our farmers along the coast. If 473 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: they get hit, they may not get hit. President Trump 474 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: saying that revenue has come from tariffs. Coming up, we'll 475 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: talk more policy and politics with our panel. What's on 476 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: their radar? I can tell you a preview of mine. 477 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: It regards China and those protests. They're not over, folks, 478 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: and in fact, the protesters in Hong Kong are saying 479 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: it's too little, too late. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington 480 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: correspondent from Bloomberg Television Bloomberg Radio. You can download the 481 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, 482 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also 483 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: find us on Radio dot com, I Heart Video, and Spotify. 484 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound On with 485 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Shirlet on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven 486 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: f M h D two. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington 487 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: correspondent form Bloomberg Television. In Bloomberg Radio. Brexit update. UK 488 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Boris Johnson failed in his attempt to trigger 489 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: a snap general election, in another blow for his Brexit strategy. 490 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: It's been a rough couple of days for UK Prime 491 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: Minister Boris Johnson. He needed two thirds of members of 492 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: Parliament to support his plan to break up parliament early 493 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: for there to be a national poll, but fewer than half. 494 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: Fewer than half back to him. It's been really a fascinating, 495 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch our friends across the pond struggle with 496 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: any type of Brexit dreadlock. He had been arguing that 497 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: there needed to be an emergency election and that was 498 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: the only way out of the Brexit deadlock that has 499 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: paralyzed British politics for the past three years. Tim Ross 500 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: and Robert Hutton reporting for Bloomberg on that particular issue. 501 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: We've got a cast of political all stars political aces 502 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: here with me in studio for what has become, truthfully 503 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of this program, which is 504 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: what is on your Radar? And this is an opportunity 505 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: where we get to talk about some different things, some 506 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: different stories that are that are on our radar. Maybe 507 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: not getting as much attention in the markets, in the polls, 508 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: uh in the mainstream press as we would hope, but 509 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to dive into the weeds. Nerd out 510 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: a little bit and talk about them. Antoine c Right 511 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: is here, Democratic strategist, founder and CEO of Blue and Strategy, 512 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: former senior advisor to Hillary Clinton's South Carolinian campaign, and 513 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: Scott Trantor he has CEO of Optimist, former data science 514 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: director for Marco Rubio's for for President uh. He now 515 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: works at a data driven strategies company. That's what Optimists 516 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: designs and delivers data driven strategies for leading presidential and 517 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: gubernatorial campaigns and Fortune five companies and nonprofits around the globe. 518 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: All right, so what is on your radar? Radar Scott 519 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: trand turn the data guide. So it's something that plugging 520 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: something we do with Firehouse and Optimists we do. We've 521 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: been tracking the Democratic primary all year and we've got 522 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: a poll coming out leading up to the next Democratic debate, 523 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: which is a big one because it's the first culling. 524 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: We're going to see less people on on on stage. 525 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: Most of these Canadians running for four or five months, 526 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: spent millions of dollars, spent the summer talking to voters. 527 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: So we're gonna see where some of these people are 528 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: shaking out. Who's actually gonna make the next round, Who's 529 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna be. The people were talking to is we're just 530 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: a few months out from Iowa, Okay, So what do 531 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: you what have you been tracking in the polls? What 532 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: can you tell us in some of these battles and 533 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: some of the battlegun states. The most interesting thing we 534 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: saw last time was we saw Biden Warren tied in Iowa, UM, 535 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: which is a little bit different UM than what people 536 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: have been tracking nationally where they had Biden Warren tied nationally, 537 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: and then some polls came out and readjusted that. I 538 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: would say this, look, if you're looking at polls and 539 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: national stuff doesn't matter now. You gotta win states. And 540 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: so look and see where this is tightening in Iowa, 541 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: South Carolina and Nevada, UM. Those states going for and 542 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing the tightening happening. We'll be interesting 543 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: to see if it stays that way. This is interesting 544 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: ants one, because this is what was we were talking 545 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: about this yesterday Iowa. The Hawk guy state Iowa and 546 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: Biden's campaign ants bond to Scott Channer, the data got 547 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: the Republican data Guy's point. Biden's campaign had been forecasting 548 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: this week, Hey, we might not win Iowa. So it 549 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: looks it's like there's trouble for the body campaign in Iowa. 550 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: Kevin simmer dwan with that word trouble. Um, Look, you 551 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: flirt with Iowa, you played footso with New Hampshire, you 552 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: cuddle with Nevada, but you date and married South Carolina 553 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: in the presidential preference primary. And most people know that, 554 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: And so wow, the expectations. I don't think what point 555 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: you're making. What point are you making? Meaning that the 556 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: ball game is in It doesn't matter who's making the cake. 557 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who's making the cake. It doesn't matter 558 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: who's putting ice and ice cream in Iowa. What matters 559 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: is the ball game is in South Carolina, where six 560 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: the Democratic vote would be African American women. When you 561 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: look at what happens after South Carolina, many of the 562 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: states followed have the same demographic. And guess what if 563 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: you ask Senator Barack Obama in two thousand and eight, 564 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: you asked Hillary Clinton, as Hillary Clinton in what will 565 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: tell you? South Carolina was the game, stage, the moment. 566 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: And while I don't make, I don't make I don't 567 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: make comparisons to races. But let me tell you the 568 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: African American vote this time round would matter even more 569 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: when you look at the moving up on the map 570 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: of California and Texas. Listen, obviously, South Carolina matters. I totally, 571 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: wholeheartedly agree that the south South Carolina absolutely matters. But 572 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: it is risky political business if history is a judge 573 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: to totally ignore Iowa and New Hands. I'm not saying 574 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: because those candidates can have the momentum heading into South 575 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: Carolina and look no offense to mark over what happened. 576 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: But that's what happened to market, Yeah, exactly what. That 577 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: would be convincing the wisdom. We are not living in 578 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: convincing times. If so, Downtron would never be present. Number one, 579 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: you number one, Number two. Donald Trump also won New 580 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: Hampshire after he lost then one South Carolina. The Republican 581 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: primary is a beast all by itself. We won't even 582 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: go there, but all I would tell you is that 583 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: you can lose all three states, can't win in South 584 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: Carolina and blow your way to be in our nominee. 585 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: And I think and win in South Carolina, three states, 586 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, uh, Nevada, and I know you can three 587 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: different winners and still catch win in South Carolina and 588 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: blow your way to our nomination. Do you want to 589 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: disagree with you? But we're allowed to disagree. We're allowed 590 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: to disagree. You want to know what's on my mind? 591 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: Number one, North Carolina, it's actually what's on your radars? Well, 592 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: what's on my radars? On my mind? North Carolina nine? 593 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: A special election next Tuesday. North Carolina. It's a good one. 594 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: It's a special election. Well, Democrat has not held the 595 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: seat since nineteen sixty three. Donald Trump, Where is North Carolina? 596 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: Authlina nine is ut suburban Charlotte, Fayetteville, Lumberton County Republicans 597 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: of carrit This is the nineteen sixties Trumps won by 598 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: twelve points. The race is neck and neck. Trump is 599 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: expected to go there next week because they had no 600 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: idea that Dan McCready was going to be in this position. 601 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: The election was stolen from him last cycle of the 602 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: biggest case of election pro in my political lifetime. So 603 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: it's a race to watch. That's on my radar and 604 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: on my mind, And I think what's also in my mind? 605 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: This is a little humorous, But before we get into humor, 606 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: I want to get your take on North Carolina nine. Yeah, no, 607 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: I agree. If I had a second big thing with 608 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: North Carolina nine. As Antoine pointed out, Republicans have to 609 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: win those suburban districts. That's that. That is the quintessential 610 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: suburban district. When I used to teach at the RNC 611 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: Political ed School, that was the district we trained on 612 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: because of learned that there is an RNC Republican what 613 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: is it called operative school where they teach operatives. Yeah. Yeah, 614 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: the Dems have it too, and that was the district. 615 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: This is like Hogwarts of operatives, like Hogwarts. Yeah yeah. 616 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: Bottom line though, is that was the district we used 617 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: because that was a perfect example of a cross section 618 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: district that represented America. Scott Republican data guru, what are 619 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: some of the hop issues in suburban America that that 620 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: are that are playing out and special elections like North Carolina. 621 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: I honestly, it's it's not its shouldn't be surprised. It's 622 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: the economy. At the end of the day, these folks 623 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: want to make sure they can afford the milk at 624 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: the grocery store. There's a hundred and fifty channels on 625 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: the TV, and they can pay their mortgage and they've 626 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: got enough money for their kids to go to college 627 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: and quality life because that's what people care about about 628 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: gun control. How does that plan on the submurb? So 629 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: that's interesting and I'd be curious here in Antonina when 630 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: we pull it. It's one of those things people care about, 631 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: but whether they vote on it is different, and it 632 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: is certainly polarizing. If you care about it, you vote 633 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: on it either direction. But I wouldn't say it's a 634 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: top three issue that the middle is voting. We're learning 635 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: a lot of this on your radar. If I do 636 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: say something, I can tell you there's different strokes of 637 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: different folks. For some it is an emotional issue because 638 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: they've been impacted, But others it's just trying to figure 639 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: out how to make the day work in the night 640 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: not be a night mayor for them. And that's where 641 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: quality life starting healthcare has been the number one issues 642 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: from the time Donald Trump has taken office until now. Uh, 643 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: And you've seen that play out in eighteen. I think 644 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: you will see that play out in twenty because we 645 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: like you on this show so much. Usually you only 646 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: get one what's on your radar, but I'm going to 647 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,959 Speaker 1: give you two if you can make the second one quick. 648 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: Jay Z is going to be engaged with the NFL. 649 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: That is going to blow down mind because I read 650 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: that he said that that jay Z was quoted in 651 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: an article and I'm totally blanking on which one where 652 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: he said that they had moved on past kneeling and 653 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: that engaged in a in a back and forth. But 654 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: that is going to be huge if jay Z is involved, 655 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: and he is, he's partnering with in the NFL, and 656 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: that's going to blow Donald Trump's mind because you know, 657 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: jay Z and Beyonce, we're out front for Hillary Clinton 658 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: in and that set off President Trump. Kanye is going 659 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: to be in the boot. I want to I want 660 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: to see. Just reading, just reading, just reading on box 661 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: dot com, they're reporting on jay Z. It was supposed 662 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: to be good news, the joining of a beloved, beleggered 663 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: sports corporation and a heralded rapper in the name of 664 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: entertainment and social justice. Instead, it added fuel to an 665 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: ongoing controversy. On August thirteenth, the NFL announced that it 666 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: was entering a partnership with Rock Nation, the entertainment company 667 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: founded and led by rapper and mogul jay Z. You 668 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: know I'm a football fan. My Eagles are going to 669 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 1: beat the Redskins this weekend. Let me tell you what's 670 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: on my radar. This is such a great segment today, folks. 671 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Hong Kong. I mean, we talked 672 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: earlier about US China economic trade policy. But Carrie Lamb's 673 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: moved to formally withdraw a bill allowing extraditions to China 674 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: may well have ended to Hong Kong unrest in June. 675 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: But now protesters want a lot more, and they're ready 676 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: and they're willing to fight. This is according to the 677 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Terminal. It's been three months. Three months of that 678 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: times violent demonstrations, and Hong Kong's leader made her most 679 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:08,959 Speaker 1: significant concession yet on Wednesday evening. In a somber televised dress, 680 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: she told an anxious city that she was meeting a 681 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: demand from protesters to officially scrap a proposal that ended 682 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: up sparking the worst unrest since the former colonies returned 683 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: to Chinese rule in This has been a fascinating issue 684 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: the the Hong Kong protests, one could easily make the 685 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: case have been grossly underestimated by President Shi jing Ping's government. Uh, 686 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: and everyone predicted that they would end, and they're still 687 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: going on, still going on, even after Carrie Lamb's moved 688 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: to formally withdraw a bill allowing extraditions to China. That's 689 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: what's all my radar. We're gonna be following for that 690 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: all week. I want to thank antwoin Seawright. I want 691 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: to thank Scott Tranner and of course Brian Hook from 692 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: the State's Department for joining us today. I'm Kevin Creli, 693 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. Jamp 694 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: acts show tons of topics. Thanks for tuning in to 695 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg One