1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,239 Speaker 1: Previously on Once Upon a Con. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: He's a predator and he needs to be stopped. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: David Bloom's ex wife, Nancy shares her experience of what 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: it was like being married to the con artist for 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: nearly ten years. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: He convinced me that he was the only one who 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: really knew me, who loved me like no one else had, 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: the only one that truly understood me. And then, you know, 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: how could I be without him? I finally found this 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: person and he was able to identify kind of my 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: insecurities and basically played them. You know, I wanted to 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: be taken care of, so he took care of me. 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: But in reality, David Bloom is pulling one of his 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: most cruel and evil cons to date that will ultimately 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: destroy Nancy's life. 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: It was insane. The stuff he was doing was insane, 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: and I was trying to make sense of something that 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense, or to understand things that I 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: could not have thought of in my wildest dreams to do. 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: So how could we understand what he's doing. We would 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: never think about doing it ever. 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: Is what you boys. 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline de Morey and this is Once Upon a 24 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: Con Episode six. He will not stop until he kills me. 25 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: David was now selling advertising on billboards. We said he 26 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: had big clients like Circu Salet and Fiat Chrysler and Westfield. 27 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: It's late twenty sixteen. Nancy and her husband David are 28 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: living happily ever after in Los Angeles. He seems to 29 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: have turned his life around and he's making great money 30 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: selling billboard advertising. So Nancy takes some time off work 31 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: and David appears to be taking care of her. 32 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: A couple of times, you know, I would do some 33 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: consulting here and there, and he'd have me engage with 34 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: people and say that Fiat Chrysler was going to sponsor 35 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: an event, provide cars, vehicles and financial support for philanthropic events. 36 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: So I think there was an event with Vogue, a 37 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: women's conference. There was the LACMA Gala Annual Gala, and 38 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: there was the Friars Club Gala in New York, and 39 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: Fiat Chrysler was going to provide a jeep Cherokee for 40 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: the Vogue event. They were going to provide a car 41 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: or cars that were going to be out front of 42 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: the LACMA event at the step and repeat, all the 43 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: celebrities We're going to walk. 44 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: By LACMA or LACMA is an acronym for the Los 45 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: Angeles County Museum of Art, and their galas are star 46 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: studded events where LA's rich and famous gathered as schmooze 47 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: and be schmoozed. 48 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: Additionally, David was going to fill a table celebrities for 49 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: the actual gala. It was heavy hitters and wealthy people, 50 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: you know, and lacmaists at that time thrilled we have 51 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: all these new people coming, potential donors and supporters in 52 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: the future. We've got Fiat Chrysler supporting your car. And 53 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: then in New York he was going to provide transportation 54 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: to the talent the celebrities coming to honor Jerry Lewis. 55 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: So the night before the Fires Cup gala, were invited 56 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: to a private dinner at the Friars Club to honor 57 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: Jerry Lewis, Elvis Costello and Diana Prawl. They're sitting across 58 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: from us. Leonardo DiCaprio's there, and you know, we're all 59 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: at this private dinner. I mean, they're probably fifty sixty 60 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: people around the big U shaped table. They're all sitting there, 61 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: and you know, David is calm as a fucking cucumber. 62 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: We're drinking, he's chatting, we're laughing. 63 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: That celebrity dinner the night before their big gala goes 64 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: off without a hitch. David hobnobs with Hollywood stars and 65 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: rubbed shoulders with New York's rich and powerful elite, who 66 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: are in fact legitimately donating hundreds of thousands of dollars 67 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: to the Friar's Club, and David convincingly pretends he is too. 68 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: But we go into the next day where David's supposed 69 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: to produce these cars to transport talent, and they don't 70 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: show up. And I had gotten out to get my 71 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: hair done, of course, bought new clothes, come back to 72 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: the hotel room. He started getting emails, and I started 73 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: getting emails about people canceling. Their private plane got canceled. 74 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: They weren't going to make it in for the dinner, 75 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: Fiat canceling. But we're sitting there together and I'm getting emails, 76 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: right sod Avid can't be sending them because we're reading 77 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: them together, and so everything falls apart, and I was 78 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: I just freaked out. I just I can't even remember, 79 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: and I think, you know what, I may not have 80 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: done a good job in conveying is the confusion that 81 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: he created in my head. The cars were a fake. 82 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: This Fiat price or support was a fake. He worked 83 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: his way in there and act like, you know, the 84 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: big swing in and had nothing. 85 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: Nancy's head is spinning. She had literally just gotten off 86 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: a transcontinental from Europe to attend the Friar's Club event. 87 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: We came to New York from Italy, where we had 88 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: gone to meet with Fiat Chrysler, and it never materialized. 89 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: They got busy, stayed in these beautiful exclusive places that 90 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: Fiat had paid for for us. Later I find out 91 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: I had paid for for us. And then from there 92 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: we flew to New York for the Friars Club. I 93 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: went a day head I can't remember. I think he 94 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: had important meetings, yeah right, and he joined me. You know, 95 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: we were in Lake Cuomo. Fiat was just lovely to us, 96 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: except Fiat never clearly existed. 97 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: It's twenty seventeen. 98 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: At this point, I was married to David for almost 99 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: ten years. 100 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: And Nancy begins to realize that David doesn't really have 101 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: a high paying job selling billboard advertising to huge companies, 102 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: and she's about to make another startling discovery too just 103 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: exactly where all the money he's been using to support 104 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: them both financially for the past couple years is coming. 105 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: From living in Venice and I go to the mailbox. 106 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: David had been very strategic. He always got the mail 107 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: before I got home, and he knew I didn't like 108 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: to go get mail. And honestly, like kind of shows 109 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: you where I came from. I grew up with a 110 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: single mother, right my father died when I was five. 111 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: She was a public school teacher. We didn't have a 112 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: lot of money, and mail stressed her out because it 113 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: was bills and so literally, like I remember, she had 114 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: opened the mail once or twice a week because it 115 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: was too stressful, and so I kind of have that mentality. 116 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: So I was like, David's getting the mail. I don't 117 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: have to worry about it whatever. So what he was 118 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: doing was getting the mail, and if there was anything 119 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: that I shouldn't see in it, I didn't see it. 120 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: So I must have gotten home before him and I 121 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: got the mail. And there were all these overdue notices 122 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: from credit cards. He had opened the credit cards in 123 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: my name and added his to the account. He knew 124 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: my social Security number, address, etc. Birthday, signed up online 125 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: and signed up for online billing, so he never received 126 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: a bill charged all this and was who knows at 127 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: that point, stealing from Peter to pay Paul and going 128 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: from bank to bank covering the minimums on these credit 129 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: cards for a while, so they're continuing to rack up charges. 130 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: He's covering the minimums, but at some point he must 131 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: have not been able to cover the minimums, so they 132 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: started sending bills to try to collect. And that's what 133 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: I discovered. 134 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: In total, the money Nancy lost while being involved with 135 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: David Bloom it was upward. 136 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: To a couple hundred thousand dollars. 137 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: So Nancy, with a stack of overdue credit card bills 138 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: in her hand, linked to accounts bearing her name that 139 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: she had no idea even existed, confronts her husband when 140 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: he gets home that evening. 141 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: I said, what are these bills? And David has this 142 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: way about him it's hard to even explain until you 143 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: the person confronting him. But again, he can just so 144 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: calmly take it in and then you know when he 145 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: finally if he does admit to something, which obviously you 146 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: have to, you know the bills are right there and 147 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: there are some charges I recognize like plane tickets to 148 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: Italy and things like that, dinners hotels that he cops 149 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: to it, but it's always in this way. It was 150 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: for you. I wanted to do it for you. I'm 151 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: so sorry. I love you. You're the love of my life. 152 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: I didn't want to hurt you. I just how could 153 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: I do this to you? I love you so much. 154 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: But that was really kind of the last straw for me. 155 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: I was panicked. I'm not working now right because we're 156 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: so rich. I don't need to, you know, And I 157 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: don't have the money to cover any of this. I've 158 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: got rent, I don't know how I'm paying my bills, 159 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: and so that was really kind of the beginning of 160 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: the unraveling. I asked him to leave multiple times. He 161 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: was in and out, he'd work his way back and 162 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: I'd ask him to leave, and then one day when 163 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: he had been gone, and every time he was gone 164 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: he'd come back. You know, I'm just doing this for you. 165 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: I love you. I'm so sorry. Will you ever forgive me? 166 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 2: He had burst into the apartment and I caught him 167 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: with my phone and I said, what are you doing 168 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: with my phone? And he'd put it down. Oh, sorry, 169 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: I thought it was my phone. I said, what are 170 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: you talking about? So he bustled around and he was 171 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: actually frightening that time. 172 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Nancy has no idea that when David takes her phone, 173 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: he secretly blocks a number on it, the number of 174 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: a mutual acquaintance, so that person now has no way 175 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: of calling Nancy directly. 176 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: But their friend called me and told me about a 177 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: scam had been running locally. Their friend called me and 178 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: told me about a scam had been running locally selling 179 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: pre Ibo Snapchat stock to them, but had included me 180 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: as part of this. Had wanted to start a business 181 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: with one of the guys, but had been using me 182 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: as part of this scheme, but had told them not 183 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: to talk to me because I didn't like to talk 184 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: about business. At this point, had been emailing people from 185 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: accountcy developed in my name, and had been doing a 186 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: number of things. So they called me to say, we've 187 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: been asking for our money back. We're tired of this 188 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: and we want our money back. What are you guys doing? 189 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: And I said, I have no idea what you're talking about. 190 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: I think at that time, I said, and I call 191 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: you back. I want to get my locks changed. I 192 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: hung up I called a friend to come over so 193 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be alone. I called a locksmith and had 194 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: a locksmith come and changed my locks. And then I 195 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: called them back, or they called me back, and they 196 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: told me the story of what David had been doing 197 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: with a lot of local businesses, which goes back to 198 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: a lot of what he had done in New York earlier. 199 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: So Nancy gets her own apartment and tries to hide 200 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: from David Bloom, but he eventually finds her and once 201 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: again worms his way back into her life, playing on 202 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: her sympathy. He suddenly shows up one day and he 203 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: looks homeless and smells like he hasn't bathed in weeks. 204 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: He tells Nancy, I've been sleeping on the street. You know, 205 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: can I take a shower? 206 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: So Nancy reluctantly lets him in to use her bathroom, 207 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: and eventually he his way into sleeping on her sofa 208 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: until he can find a place of his own. She 209 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be with him, but at the same time, 210 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: she felt like she couldn't put him out on the street. 211 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Nancy was slowly turning into a shell of her former self, disoriented, isolated, 212 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: and severely depressed. 213 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: And I was working now and it was abusive. I 214 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: mean again, I couldn't think straight. I didn't know what 215 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: day it was, I didn't know what season of the 216 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: year it was. It was all I could do to 217 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: get up, get myself to work, try to appear like 218 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 2: a functioning human being, and get home. David, at one 219 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: point was living now in my new place where I 220 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: had tried to disappear. He was staying in the living 221 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: room kitchen area, and I would come home, get something 222 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: little to eat, and sit on my bed with the 223 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: door closed while David had the rest of the apartment. 224 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: And it was one night when I was sitting there 225 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: and I could barely function, and David's, you know, telling 226 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: me how he's going to get this job and help 227 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: me get that job and do this, and he's gonna 228 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: have money, he's gonna pay me back, and he's gonna 229 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: pay her taxes and doing all that that I saw, 230 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: how like dominuative, I've become that I was barely functioning, 231 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: and I just had this realization that he will not 232 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: stop until he kills me. He sees what he has 233 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: done to me, and he does not care. And I 234 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: summoned my strength, and that was the last night he 235 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: was there. 236 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: Nancy finally kicks David out for the last time and 237 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: promptly files for divorce. 238 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: Took another two years to actually get a divorce. It's 239 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: very difficult to get a divorce when you don't know 240 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: where the other person is, so you have to go 241 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: through a whole process of sending. The government has to 242 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: send papers to the last address they have on five 243 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: for the person, and then when they're not returned within 244 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: six months, then they can go on to the next step. 245 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: I didn't have any money, so I had to do 246 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: most of it by myself. 247 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: And as if what David had stolen from her and 248 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: the horror he put her through with his years of 249 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: endless lies and manipulations wasn't enough, Some of David's victims 250 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: he scammed using Nancy's identity, file a lawsuit against her. 251 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: I can't fault people for trying to get their money back. 252 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that they thought that I was involved. I'd 253 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: like my money back too. 254 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: And these days, nothing surprises Nancy about David Bloom because 255 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: she's witnessed firsthand his power and malicious influence for years, 256 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: and she understands now that no one is safe. 257 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: I was never even physically attracted to David, but somehow 258 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: he still had control and power over me and made 259 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: made me feel like I could not exist without him. 260 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a cult, That's what I'd liken 261 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: it too. 262 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: And one of the most shocking revelations Nancy shares is 263 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: David's magical ability to continue scamming his own family, who 264 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: already know full well he is a con artist from 265 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: way back in the eighties in his New York days, 266 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: where he swindled hundreds of victims out of fifteen million dollars. 267 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: His sister was so embarrassed by David and his crimes 268 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: she moved to northern California to get away from him, 269 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: got married. She and her husband didn't like David, hadn't 270 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: spoken to until we went and visited the family. He 271 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: even conned them. He created an email in my name 272 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: and used it for communications with a lot of people 273 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: with this local group, but emailed his sisters and her 274 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: husband saying he had this access to this pre IPO stock. 275 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: I think because of me. They gave him something like 276 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: eighteen thousand dollars. They were going to make all this money, 277 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: and then the delay game starts right so why aren't 278 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: they getting their money at this point? They just want 279 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: their money back whatever. And David's told them now that 280 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: I had to go to the hospital for a blood 281 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 2: disease which I had when I was younger, so a 282 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: little you know, he didn't pull it out of complete 283 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: thin air. And so I found these emails that David 284 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: was writing to his sister and brother in law as 285 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: me lying now. It shows you he was completely heartless 286 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: and ruthless to steal from his own sister. He also 287 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: stole from his parents, but to do it in my 288 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: name and to lie. And the fact that even she, 289 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 2: after basically disowning him and knowing his entire criminal history, 290 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: still fell for him again. Still he was able to 291 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: convince them to give him money again. 292 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: Nancy reports David Bloom to the police multiple times. She's 293 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: hoping and praying he gets charged with scamming her, and 294 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: in the meantime, she's keeping. 295 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: Tabs on him. As I have read the most recent article, 296 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: and I credit David's OCD. He doesn't reinvent himself. He's 297 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: been running the same old sorry schemes for the last 298 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: couple decades and seems to continue to do so. And 299 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: I had heard about another woman, that the younger woman 300 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: that he had taken advantage of a couple of years ago. 301 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: But I wasn't in any position, you know, to do 302 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: anything at that time. I was still trying to get 303 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: my own life together. And it just hit me that, 304 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: you know, enough is enough. I have worked on women's 305 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: issues and been an advocate on women's issues for the 306 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: last couple of decades, and I cannot stand by and 307 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: watch him do this to anybody, but let alone take 308 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: advantage of a young woman. 309 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: That's abuse, It certainly is, and she's just one of 310 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: many victims David tricks out of money in the LA area. 311 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: At this point, it feels like I've gotten my PhD 312 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: in David freaking Bloom, from his New York scams in 313 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties to the decade long series of 314 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: cons he pulls on his wife and even his own sister. 315 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: I know now what I have to do. I have 316 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: to warn everybody this man is dangerous. So I start 317 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: calling every single person David Bloom ever introduced me too, 318 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: Like you called me. 319 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 4: Probably like in the week when we came back from France. Me, 320 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: I think, did you give him money? 321 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's r asta and. 322 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: Then I said yes, and you asked me, I think, 323 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: did you give him money? 324 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's r asta. 325 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 5: And then I said, yes. 326 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: That's La restaurant tour and chef Vincent San Marco. I 327 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: remember the day David brought you to the Villa Carlotta, 328 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: and I just thought, Wow, this like super cool French 329 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: chef here with David. They're going to open some you know, 330 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: fabulous restaurant together. 331 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 4: I think I was coming to hang out with him 332 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: at the swimming pool and to maybe put a little 333 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 4: legged in the pool or something like that. And you 334 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: were here with your beautiful hair, beautiful smile, and beautiful 335 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 4: gorgeous daughter, and introduce me to you. You were very sweet, 336 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: very nice, not you know, not Hollywood. You're a very 337 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: very genuine person. 338 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: And you were to me another person that validated David 339 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: Bloom right, And I'm sure I must have somehow validated 340 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: him back to you. Indeed you did, because that's kind 341 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: of what he does. 342 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: But we validated him by us in our existence, but 343 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: not by words or by anything of discussion, because. 344 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean, because we weren't allowed to really speak to 345 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: each other. He keeps everybody kind of separate. But shows 346 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: you that they exist, right, correct. I was so impressed 347 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: with Vincent when David introduced me to him back in 348 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I mean, there's actually a documentary about 349 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: Vincent San Marco streaming right now on Amazon called bell V. 350 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: I'm the third generation. 351 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: Asto bellev is the name of Vincent's restaurant in Brentwood, 352 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: and in late twenty twenty it's ground zero for how 353 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Vincent end up in David's crosshairs. 354 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: He started coming in with his girlfriend and they were 355 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 4: coming at the bar happy hour, very talkative. He knows 356 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 4: about arts, he knows a bad stuff. 357 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: So he comes into your restaurant, he sees you. Did 358 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: he know you were the owner? How did he strike 359 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: up a conversation with you? 360 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 4: I mean, you come into my restaurant, It's very easy 361 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: to talk to me. I talked to everybody. This is 362 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: what I do. You know, whether it's my restaurant or 363 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 4: I work for someone else. 364 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 5: I'm a very open person. I'm very genuine. 365 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: He started to coming twice a week, three times a week, 366 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 4: and then started to talk a bit about movies. I'm 367 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 4: highly passionated about theater. And then he started telling me 368 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 4: that he invested in this movie which just came out, 369 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: the last Christopher Nolan movie, tenet. 370 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 5: Happened Here hasn't happened yet. 371 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 4: And that he put one million dollars into that movie. 372 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: He was named dropping a lot. 373 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: One of the names David drops in front of Vincent 374 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: is one you all know very well by now, that 375 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: supermarket Titan billionaire Ron Burkele. 376 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 4: He took to me a lot about him all the time, 377 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 4: as he was his good friend, and that they hang out, 378 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: they used to play tennis together and so on and 379 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: so forth. So I mean, like, okay, he's a good guy. 380 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: And then maybe I google the name of Ron Burkel 381 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: probably three months after he started talking to me about 382 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: that person. 383 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, did he ever show you text messages from Ron? 384 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: Probably? 385 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: We used to do that to me all the time. 386 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: So it's interesting here I'm realizing he was doing your 387 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: con at the same time that he was doing mine. Sadly, 388 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen takes a lethal toll on Vincent's restaurant, bell Vie, 389 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: which is actually what that Amazon movie is about. 390 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 4: A good friend of mine, Marcus Mizel, did the documentary 391 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 4: about me using my restaurant during the pandemic. 392 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, and Vincent's restaurant closing gives David Bloom the opening 393 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: he needs to step in and help. Remember the credit 394 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: repair company David told me he owned, well, He tells 395 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: Vincent the same thing and offers to fix his credit. 396 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: He actually did repair my credit pretty well. 397 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: I did, so it's also legitimized. 398 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 4: Him because like when I lost the restaurant, I need 399 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 4: a personal bankruptcy and I was at four hundred of 400 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 4: credit score, and like when the company took care of 401 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: my repair credit and like in three months, I was 402 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: at six fifty yep, and now I'm at six eighty already. 403 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 4: One thing after another, we've become kind of friends. We 404 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 4: hang out, it comes to my house, he comes to 405 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 4: my house for Christmas. 406 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: So you guys became really close. 407 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like you want to help and mentor 408 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: me business wise and more investment wise, which I didn't 409 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 4: have any money at the time. 410 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: And here's where things get really interesting. David used the 411 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: same two part scam on Vincent that he used on 412 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: me for me. The first part was the dangling carrot 413 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: of that Whole Foods meeting in Texas. I never gave 414 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: David any money for that. Looking back, he just used 415 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: that entire Austin fiasco to distract me from the real 416 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: con he was pulling, which was that Soho House IPO 417 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: where I gave him thirty five thousand dollars And David 418 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: pulled the same two part con on Vincent too, but 419 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: the dangling carrot part was a new restaurant. The story 420 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: I remember was that he was building out a restaurant 421 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: for you to be the head chef. 422 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 4: At He was telling me, oh, I have a building 423 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 4: in downtown LA and I know that. 424 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: He owns owned, yep, yep, and that the building it's 425 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: right next to Bestia. 426 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 5: It's in the Art district tonight. 427 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 4: It's an old fly house which got transformed as an 428 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: hotel I think probably five years ago and got closed because. 429 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 5: He was not working. 430 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: And he was saying he bought the building for super 431 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: cheap and he wants to open a restaurant. 432 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 5: He wants me to take care of it. And I 433 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 5: just lost my restaurant and I mean perfect timing, perfect timing, 434 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 5: I mean I need it. 435 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: And while all this is going on, in early twenty 436 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: twenty one, tragedy strikes Vincent's brother in law suddenly dies, 437 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: and David seems to really step up and be there 438 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: for Vincent and his family. 439 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 4: He was there at the Finer Hut and everything. 440 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: He was at the funeral. 441 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 5: Because he was a friend. I mean, like. 442 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 4: He came and received me in tough days, in tough 443 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 4: time and be here for me to cheer me up 444 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 4: and stuff like that all the time, all the time, 445 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: here for me. 446 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, like a friend. 447 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 4: My mother in law, my wife are just like broken 448 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: and like you said, like hey, oh like Ron Berkel again. 449 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: You know, he has a resort very close in Montana 450 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: with houses. You give me a house, we'll be next 451 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 4: to Facebook creator and stuff like that. We have a 452 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: private plane coming to take us. So right, we were ready. 453 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: We did our suitcase man. 454 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: And if you google Ron burkele and Montana, you'll see 455 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: that he actually does own a resort there in Yellowstone. 456 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: So Vincent and his wife and mother in law are 457 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: really looking forward to their trip to that Yellowstone resort 458 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: compliments of David Bloom, if only for a temporary reprieve 459 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: from their grief. So on the day that you're supposed 460 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: to go to Yellowstone, you're all packed and you are 461 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: on your way to go be with ron burkele your 462 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: wife and David what happens? 463 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: Well, like it just said that the security of ron Bergera, 464 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 4: because we've just been vaccinated just eight days ago, doesn't want. 465 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 5: Us to come. 466 00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 467 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: He pulled the bavaccinated card on me too. Not surprisingly, 468 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: that Yellowstone trip never happens, but David does offer to 469 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: help Vincent, who is now unemployed, with an incredible investment opportunity. 470 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 5: It was an IPO. 471 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: Was it the Soho House ipo? 472 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: It was No, it was like some kind of glasses Oh, 473 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: Warby Parker well eyeglasses company giv him ten k. 474 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: And you can see too that Warby Parker was ipoing 475 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: at the time. He's very smart. 476 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 5: Everything is on points. 477 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 478 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 4: And you know I never invested money or anything due 479 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: to the fact that I really don't support speculation. 480 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: I think it's a. 481 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: Cancer for our society. But I mean, he was insisting, 482 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 4: and he was saying, I'm going to make so much money. 483 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: So I started giving ten k, and then the Soil 484 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: House come in. I give twenty k. 485 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: So David takes thirty thousand dollars in all from Vincent, 486 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: who again is unemployed and has a wife and two 487 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: babies at home to support. But Vincent isn't worried at 488 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,239 Speaker 1: all because David just bought that old firehouse downtown and 489 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: he's going to convert it into a high end restaurant 490 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: for Vincent to run. 491 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: I'm very good in operation. I'm akila in operation. So 492 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: he made sense. It's not betting on a dream. He's 493 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: betting on your hard work. And you're successful and you 494 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: believe in yourself. 495 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: He has you so invested in this restaurant and running 496 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: this restaurant and being a part owner in this restaurant 497 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: that when he pressures you for the IPO on the side, 498 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, no big deal, Let's get back to 499 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: the restaurant. That's kind of how he did it to 500 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: me too. I had this big meeting with the president 501 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: of Whole Foods because of Ron Brkel that when the 502 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: IPO thing came along, he played it as, Oh, yeah, 503 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: just get together whatever money you can. It'll help you 504 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: survive until the big money comes in from the business. 505 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 5: Correct. 506 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: Talking to Vincent is a real eye opener, and it's 507 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: helping me piece together where exactly David was just before 508 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: I met. 509 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 4: Him, he was living in the vnb's and stuff like that, 510 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: and I think with the thirty k went to the 511 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: Villa Carlotta. 512 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: Wow, this is really an AHA moment. So in April 513 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, David Bloom is using Vincent's thirty 514 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to move in and pay rent at the 515 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: Villa Carlotta, which was about eight thousand per month. And 516 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: that place turns out to be fertile ground for a 517 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: crafty con artist, chock full of victims who David is 518 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: about to scam, myself included. And David shows off Vincent 519 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: at the Villa Carlotta frequently telling us all he's opening 520 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: a new French restaurant with him in the very near future. 521 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: So that helps make David seem like he's on the 522 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: up and up to everyone. Not to mention he's also 523 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: a brilliant manipulator. But he cried to me one day 524 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: at the pool me. 525 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 5: Too many times. Yeah, so he opens himself. 526 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 4: He's really like and I think when he cries he 527 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 4: was very uh, genuine, authentic. 528 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: It was really of course, Vincent and I had no 529 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: idea we were both getting scammed by David Bloom. Well, 530 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: he already got scammed. I was about to but as 531 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: the weeks pass, David gets himself into a bind and 532 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: does something really uncharacteristic. 533 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: He's pathologically He's a psycho pot. They're like a real 534 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: psycho pot. 535 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: Next time on Once Upon a Con, he. 536 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 5: Was doing great at work. He ramped himself up to 537 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: a point where he was making about fifteen grand a month, 538 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 5: and he set record after record at my company. 539 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: But David Bloom's employer has no idea what he's really up. 540 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: To because he literally had us doing jumping through hoops 541 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 4: like a little circus analys, you know what I mean. 542 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: He is a very smart man. 543 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 5: Oh he's a genius. 544 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: Like I have no doubt now that I've seen this 545 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 4: side of him, because I always thought at the time 546 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 4: he was just a great salesman. 547 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 5: Now I realize he's just an absolute psychopath. 548 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: This podcast is dedicated to the memory of my amazing mother, 549 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: Bonnie Major, who would be super proud of me standing 550 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: up for myself. Once Upon a Con is a production 551 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: of AYR Media and thirty two Flavors, hosted by Me 552 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: Caroline de Morey. Executive producers Eliza Rosen for AYR Media, 553 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: Alex Baskin for thirty two Flavors and Jonathan Walton for 554 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Jonathan Walton Productions. Written by Jonathan Walton, Producer Caroline de Morey, 555 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: Senior Associate producer, Joe Pushesnik Coordinator Molena Kroyevsky. Sound designed 556 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: by Tim Mulhern, Edited and mixed by Tim Mulhern, Supervising 557 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: editor Victoria Chang, Mastered by Victoria Chang. Engineering by Justin 558 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: Longerbeam Legal counsel for AYR Media, Gianni Douglas. 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