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Speaker 1: personal finances. So today we have a special guest relations Yeah, well,
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Speaker 3: Welcome as Carolyn Jones. Yeah, hello, where are you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I'm excited. You got to see a little behind the
Speaker 3: scenes of us figuring out what the heck where are
Speaker 3: you joining us from?
Speaker 4: I am from Toronto, Canada.
Speaker 3: We're international, that's it. He real. Nice.
Speaker 4: See you're an honorary Canadian.
Speaker 3: Now what's your BA story? How long have you been listening?
Speaker 4: Oh, I've been listening for some time. And actually I'm
Speaker 4: a mentor in Tiffany's mentor program. So yeah, I've been
Speaker 4: enjoying that immensely. You give so much knowledge and it's
Speaker 4: it's been such a great experience. So yeah, really appreciative
Speaker 4: actually of the opportunity to come on talk to you guys.
Speaker 3: Awesome, Well hit us, what's your question? We are going
Speaker 3: into this completely blind.
Speaker 4: Okay for sure. So I'm in the state age of
Speaker 4: life where my daughter is going off to university and
Speaker 4: you know, you have, you know in your mind that
Speaker 4: you've saved enough money, but technically it's probably going to
Speaker 4: be like twenty grand a year probably for four years,
Speaker 4: which can add up really quick. And then on top
Speaker 4: of that, you know her spending and different things that
Speaker 4: can go on while she's in university. So you know,
Speaker 4: I did have some savings when we first started, when
Speaker 4: she was born, actually we started putting away, but you know,
Speaker 4: the times are interesting times now. Of course she's going
Speaker 4: into university where the market has kind of made a
Speaker 4: little bit of a downturn, and so you know, you've
Speaker 4: lost money a little bit there. But but how do
Speaker 4: we kind of navigate through this new phase of life? Right?
Speaker 4: And secondly, you know, to actually help her with her
Speaker 4: own budgeting skills. Yeah, so when did she start her
Speaker 4: first since in September twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: And is it in Canada that she's going or in
Speaker 2: the US.
Speaker 4: She'll probably be going in Canada.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I want to know, do y'all have well?
Speaker 3: In the US? I know, we have the FASTPA, which
Speaker 3: is the Federal application for Financial Student Aid, which is
Speaker 3: like key to unlocking scholarship money also student loans of course,
Speaker 3: but any kind of aid. Do y'all have something similar
Speaker 3: in Canada?
Speaker 4: We do? Yes. It goes by income based based on
Speaker 4: the parents' income, and so it's something that you can
Speaker 4: definitely tap into as well.
Speaker 3: For sure, are y'all in that middle class trap where
Speaker 3: you like earn too much to get a lot that's
Speaker 3: exactly the same. I'm like, none of the good tax deductions.
Speaker 3: I don't get none of them.
Speaker 1: I know, well, I would say that there are. I mean,
Speaker 1: even if she, you know, doesn't qualify for income based assistance,
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's smart as a whip because she got
Speaker 1: you as a mama, and so I you know, now
Speaker 1: would be the time. This is what I'm doing for
Speaker 1: a supergirl, My my bonus daughter is like applying for
Speaker 1: any type of scholarship that she might you know, qualified for,
Speaker 1: so really leaning into her guidance counselor and any other
Speaker 1: like resources online that helped you to identify scholarships and
Speaker 1: money is available that are not income based, but maybe
Speaker 1: their merit based. Maybe she's a you know, she's a cheerleader,
Speaker 1: or she's really good at science.
Speaker 2: You know, she's a young woman of color. So that already.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how that works in Canada,
Speaker 1: but you know here, you know, so I would be
Speaker 1: leaning into because there's so much money left on the table.
Speaker 1: So I'll give you an example of my sister. When
Speaker 1: she was in she thought she was going to be
Speaker 1: a doctor. She's a scientist now, but she thought she
Speaker 1: was going to be a doctor. And so she got
Speaker 1: a scholarship to Montclair State University that paid for school.
Speaker 1: And when she applied, she was so nervous about whether
Speaker 1: she was going to get it. And when she submitted it,
Speaker 1: the lady was like, you could have literally wrote Mary
Speaker 1: had a little land one hundred times and you were
Speaker 1: going to get it because there are five spots and
Speaker 1: only four people applied. Wow, And so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of money left on the table. There's probably not as
Speaker 1: much competition as you think. So I would start with that,
Speaker 1: you know, because when did you said and it's coming up,
Speaker 1: but still, you know, there's money can be happened, can
Speaker 1: happen every year season school, so it's not like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it has to open found.
Speaker 3: Does she have like a does she have a thing?
Speaker 3: You know, is there a sport or a yeah?
Speaker 4: Does like me that? Okay, yeah, she does dance.
Speaker 3: I never had a thing. So jealous of any kid
Speaker 3: in college. I was like, I don't have a thing.
Speaker 3: I'm just black, I guess. But no, I would say
Speaker 3: there's any sort of scholarship through her the dance community.
Speaker 3: And does she have her eye on a particular school yet?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's been really you know, my daughter is very indecisive,
Speaker 4: so we've done a lot of like research and going
Speaker 4: around and checking out different schools. So I think she
Speaker 4: has her eye on couple now.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would strategize if she has specific schools,
Speaker 3: I would get in touch with her or even just
Speaker 3: google and go to their website and see what sorts
Speaker 3: of scholarships they have because for me, one of the
Speaker 3: and I'm glad Tiffany mentioned that some scholarships you can
Speaker 3: renew every year because when I was in school, I
Speaker 3: studied journalism and there was one scholarship through that specific school.
Speaker 3: It was a few thousand dollars and you had to
Speaker 3: apply each year, you had to remember to apply. But
Speaker 3: if there's like a yeah, if there's a specific school
Speaker 3: or focus that she wants to pursue, they may have
Speaker 3: particular scholarships for people like her. And then with the
Speaker 3: with the concept of indecisiveness too, Tiff, like, I think
Speaker 3: we should talk about what are the options for maybe
Speaker 3: if she doesn't really know where she wants to go
Speaker 3: yet or what she wants to do, you know, going
Speaker 3: into a smaller school to start with, like a community
Speaker 3: college or equivalent in Canada. I don't know what the
Speaker 3: structure is like there, but you know, figure out, get
Speaker 3: your core your core classes, you know, under your belt,
Speaker 3: save some money, and then transfer in potentially to a
Speaker 3: bigger school if that's what she wants, and they'll talk
Speaker 3: about yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would totally agree with that, because even when
Speaker 4: we did some tours and the bigger schools really did
Speaker 4: overwhelm her, and so it was she really did gravitate
Speaker 4: to some of the smaller schools. And again, you know,
Speaker 4: you're coming from a high school that's like maybe I
Speaker 4: don't know, four hundred students at the most right, Like
Speaker 4: it's a really small school. So going from that to
Speaker 4: like something like seventy two thousand is just you know,
Speaker 4: kind of a little overwhelming for them.
Speaker 3: Right, Beware those little tiny liberal art schools though, those
Speaker 3: are the ones I get. Everyone like, get so many
Speaker 3: kids wrapped up in student loans because they are are private.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're so true. And they'll tell you because
Speaker 3: I almost ended up going to a school like that
Speaker 3: in Georgia. They were like, you get twenty five thousand
Speaker 3: dollars tuition, you know, like a scholarship, and I was
Speaker 3: so proud, but then I realized, well, the total scholar
Speaker 3: the total tuition was like forty k. And yeah, it's
Speaker 3: really not Do we take a quick little break, brb.
Speaker 2: All and we're back. Second question.
Speaker 1: The second question about how do you get her on
Speaker 1: you know, financial to start thinking about things, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to start having those conversations now about her,
Speaker 1: you know, about her personal finance.
Speaker 2: I mean, I will recommend Gigos money.
Speaker 1: It's a great pre college post college, but honestly, even
Speaker 1: working through it maybe with her or just like like
Speaker 1: there like any financial tool, like working through it with her,
Speaker 1: having those conversations like when you go to school, you
Speaker 1: might be interested in getting your credit card.
Speaker 2: Here's what you should look for.
Speaker 1: Here is you know, when it's just in case she
Speaker 1: does get student loans, you know, when your free front
Speaker 1: check comes. Here's the best way to navigate that. So
Speaker 1: having those conversations ahead of time, deciding on a game plan,
Speaker 1: and working through it with her, because she's got to
Speaker 1: make mistakes, but you want her to make mistakes under
Speaker 1: the protection of your parent or guidance.
Speaker 2: You know, That's what my dad did.
Speaker 1: I made mistakes, but it was like, hey, this thing
Speaker 1: is happening, talk to me before you make that move.
Speaker 1: So we map data plan so I didn't feel so
Speaker 1: kind of like I was just out there making choices
Speaker 1: by myself.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmmm. So important actually, yeah, to create a plan,
Speaker 4: especially with her, you know, are you like do plans?
Speaker 4: Keep them structured too? Right?
Speaker 3: So let's be real, are you what kind of mom
Speaker 3: are you? Are you like a, Oh, they're gonna mess
Speaker 3: it up. I'm just gonna do it for her? Kind
Speaker 3: of are you feeling out her applications? What are you
Speaker 3: writing your essays? What kind of mom? Are you? You're real?
Speaker 4: Okay, I think I'm not quite on the far end
Speaker 4: of that, but probably somewhere you're in a year right
Speaker 4: because you know you want the best for them, and
Speaker 4: that's the thing you have to try and let them
Speaker 4: do their thing, but at the same time.
Speaker 3: Go easier said than easier said be said. But you know,
Speaker 3: with all my experience, my all my three years of
Speaker 3: raising a tiny human know what I would say is
Speaker 3: I have seen what happens when you overdo it, like
Speaker 3: you do everything for them, and the lack of confidence
Speaker 3: so that I can create and then making their own
Speaker 3: decisions that can follow them well after college. Like a
Speaker 3: college degree is all well and good, but I think
Speaker 3: the lessons of being kind of lung out into a
Speaker 3: relatively you know, like you still have the support of
Speaker 3: your family, but relatively like independent environment, and be like,
Speaker 3: have her decide what's my budget going to be for
Speaker 3: my meals? I don't know if she decides to not
Speaker 3: get the meal plan for example, which I decided to
Speaker 3: do to save money. I had to learn how to
Speaker 3: buy groceries and budget for that and get a part
Speaker 3: time job so that I could afford my rent. And
Speaker 3: that really instilled so much independence and confidence that was
Speaker 3: I feel like a part of the college experience, and
Speaker 3: I'm just I've seen it go the other way, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I would just say, as much as you can, let
Speaker 3: her figure out her own situation and let her come
Speaker 3: to you if she has questions, give her some like
Speaker 3: guidelines and you know, let her know that she has
Speaker 3: a bit of a safety net. But as much as
Speaker 3: you can let her be her own person making her
Speaker 3: own choices.
Speaker 4: You know, It's funny because as a parent, you and
Speaker 4: I think, I think I've fall into this generation where
Speaker 4: you're trying to give your kids a better life, right,
Speaker 4: so you remember the struggle, you remember how it was,
Speaker 4: and so therefore your trying to provide so they don't
Speaker 4: have to worry about those things. But I think in
Speaker 4: somewhere in there, we're losing that sense of independence and
Speaker 4: we're losing the sense of you know, initiative. So I
Speaker 4: try and myself aware of that, but it is hard.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we're like I don't want to make a decision
Speaker 3: because like what's mom going to say? Or for me,
Speaker 3: it's like seeing someone not being able to make their
Speaker 3: own choice until they've spoken to a parent or whoever
Speaker 3: that person was who's been sort of pulling the strings.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying go. Like my parents were
Speaker 3: out where, they were like, you'll be fine bye. I
Speaker 3: was like a last I was a last key kid
Speaker 3: in every sense of the word. A little, a little
Speaker 3: you know, support would have been nice. My dad did
Speaker 3: love to take any grocery shopping though. That's the one
Speaker 3: thing he would do. He'd come to college and we'd
Speaker 3: go to the Walmart together and it'd be fun. But
Speaker 3: he'd want to go after work hours because that's when
Speaker 3: the single moms go to Walmart, so he could and
Speaker 3: he was just like, yep, he would like narrate our
Speaker 3: shopping trip, like, oh, just take him a baby girl
Speaker 3: up to Walmart.
Speaker 2: I know, so the people would know, like, I'm just
Speaker 2: a good dad, good.
Speaker 3: Single dad doing his you know, out here working hard
Speaker 3: and see what prices are on the beast.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Yep, oh again, that's good.
Speaker 2: I'm gad to your daddy something out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But honestly, I think it's constant communication. But yes,
Speaker 1: you're wanting could because college is the time.
Speaker 2: To make the mistakes, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of forgiveness when you're seventeen, eighteen,
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, you know, credit scores can go down because
Speaker 1: they could be raised again.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, You're gonna make those mistakes.
Speaker 1: You're gonna actually want her to make those mistakes because
Speaker 1: as she learns to dig herself out, then she's the
Speaker 1: twenty five year old with the confidence and the knowledge
Speaker 1: to like, you know, get on the street and narrow,
Speaker 1: you know, so not to freak out when her credit
Speaker 1: score is terrible or she over spends.
Speaker 2: Or she's late or behind. Those are normal.
Speaker 1: Things for that age range. You know, I didn't make
Speaker 1: those mistakes until well after college because my dad kind
Speaker 1: of narrated exactly what to do when I was in
Speaker 1: I just did what he said. And then when I
Speaker 1: was like, I got it, I did.
Speaker 3: It and I was like, wait, what do I do?
Speaker 1: And so I made every mistake hitting the book that
Speaker 1: I was cleaning up by the age thirty, and I
Speaker 1: just wish, you know, I had the freedom to make
Speaker 1: more mistakes when I was when I was younger. So yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like falling when you're eighty versus following
Speaker 1: falling when you're eighteen. You know, you following you're eighty,
Speaker 1: that hip is going out, you know, eighteen, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you'll get out of a little embarrassed. It's like,
Speaker 1: let that baby fall.
Speaker 2: When she's when she's when she's young, you know what.
Speaker 1: It's like I said, having those conversations regularly, checking in
Speaker 1: regularly because really, to me, your job as a parent
Speaker 1: is to give your kid the tools, you know, not
Speaker 1: to do it for them, so that what they can
Speaker 1: learn along the way. And so the tools that you
Speaker 1: come up with based upon how you know she navigates.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're her mama, so you know, like my
Speaker 1: mom knows me well, she knows if I do like this, Tiff,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna listen.
Speaker 2: So I got to do it like this for her
Speaker 2: to get it.
Speaker 1: So knowing that finding tools that will resonate with how
Speaker 1: she shows up in life, you know.
Speaker 3: And so those are truly young. It's hard to like
Speaker 3: remind young people to think about the future because everything
Speaker 3: is like so in the moment. But if there's things
Speaker 3: that she wants to accomplish, like spring break trips, those
Speaker 3: always coming up nowhere, and then it's like am I
Speaker 3: gonna how am I gonna pay for this? Like if
Speaker 3: there's certain goals that she has, or if she has
Speaker 3: to travel for her dance, you know, competitions or buy
Speaker 3: equipment or outfits and stuff. Maybe it's about creating a
Speaker 3: budget that is realistic for her, like what are her
Speaker 3: goals and what she actually going to be paying for
Speaker 3: and helping her just set up her accounts. And then
Speaker 3: I had a question for you. So financially, you said
Speaker 3: it's about twenty k a year tuition. Well, that's what
Speaker 3: y'all are looking like, So what are y'all's options for
Speaker 3: paying for that? Do you have a nice nest egg
Speaker 3: that you're thinking do I dip into this or would
Speaker 3: y'all potentially like are you thinking of maybe co signing
Speaker 3: loans if it comes to that. I'm just wondering what
Speaker 3: your options are.
Speaker 4: So I guess as parents, you always thought that we
Speaker 4: would pay for at least you know, the first degree,
Speaker 4: you know, the first the version that decide. Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: And so we do have savings that we created when
Speaker 4: she was she was young, and which I think will
Speaker 4: last us maybe two to three maybe years, and then
Speaker 4: after that it will come from our source of being
Speaker 4: come for sure.
Speaker 3: So I mean that's incredible, But I don't think that
Speaker 3: that should dissuade her from looking for really an economical
Speaker 3: way to approach her education, because like that money could
Speaker 3: be a down payment for her first house as well,
Speaker 3: you know, or just selling or for her business if
Speaker 3: she decides to launch a business like something. You know,
Speaker 3: she ain't got to know that money is there.
Speaker 2: This is it?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, Carolyn, you say, Canada, Canada A.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think knowing that there's a big nest,
Speaker 3: like a big financial cushion, just that knowledge will make
Speaker 3: you go through life a little differently. I don't it's that.
Speaker 3: It's I think you're right. It's about setting them up
Speaker 3: for success and making sure that they don't have to
Speaker 3: struggle like we did. But how can you create a
Speaker 3: sense that she's gonna you know, support?
Speaker 1: It doesn't agree, right because I feel like black and
Speaker 1: brown people we have this thing where like our kids
Speaker 1: should know that things are hard.
Speaker 2: And I'm like everybody else don't live like that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And so like, you know, like for example, Alyssa, right,
Speaker 1: my stepdaughter, she knows that there is a bunch of
Speaker 1: money waiting for her, either to pay for school or
Speaker 1: to pay for a home, and that she's going to
Speaker 1: be fine because I want her to choose what she
Speaker 1: wants to do, not what she feels like she has
Speaker 1: to do in order to scrape by and make ends meet.
Speaker 1: Because I there was a I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember, we were in We're in that black
Speaker 1: finance group right elevate on Facebook and someone posted like,
Speaker 1: how many people who own a home you know, got
Speaker 1: down down payment assistant from their parent?
Speaker 2: And like everyone was like, what does that even mean?
Speaker 1: And she had posted it in our like you know,
Speaker 1: like necessarily it's not a white financial group, but it's
Speaker 1: basically most people there are white, and almost more than
Speaker 1: half said yeah, and it's not even something I feel
Speaker 1: like black and brown people can conceptualize like wait.
Speaker 2: Your parents getting ready for.
Speaker 1: You know, and so like that kind of financial support
Speaker 1: is foreign to us, but it ought not to be.
Speaker 1: I want to listen to know that, Like, yo, you're
Speaker 1: good either way. Choose what you want to do and
Speaker 1: what you enjoy. I haven't found that it has dampened
Speaker 1: her like desire for for more. If anything, She's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Tiffany, the way you navvig, I want that
Speaker 1: kind of life that you've been able to provide. What
Speaker 1: does that look like? So where she's always starting a
Speaker 1: new business. Always she's my TikTok account manager. She finally
Speaker 1: got back to it because the money was running low
Speaker 1: and she was like at bed back and beyond nec
Speaker 1: on bottom. That's her new obsession, you know what I
Speaker 1: see that. What I love about it is that I
Speaker 1: thought that too, that maybe it was going to make
Speaker 1: her kind of like spoilt, and it's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: made her say, I want to maintain this lifestyle, you know,
Speaker 1: and so what does that look like? And I talked
Speaker 1: to her about it, like, hey, you know, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm making. I don't need all this in order
Speaker 1: to do this lifestyle. But this is about the range
Speaker 1: that you'd have to make to make this lifestyle happen. So,
Speaker 1: because once you leave here, girl, you're gonna be on
Speaker 1: your own, you know. So if you're wanting this, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to think to yourself, what am I going
Speaker 1: to do for a living that will also provide this
Speaker 1: for me. So we have those conversations because I think
Speaker 1: a lot of kids don't, and so I just say
Speaker 1: all that to say that, like, I don't want her
Speaker 1: to think that she's going to have to struggle financially
Speaker 1: because she's not, you know, And I told her, like
Speaker 1: I have you, either way, you'll my rule for everybody
Speaker 1: that I care about.
Speaker 2: You'll never be homeless, are hungry, you know.
Speaker 1: Now, excess and the bonus and the fabulous life whatever,
Speaker 1: that's on you. But as far as the basics, there's
Speaker 1: a solid foundation for you.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's true.
Speaker 4: I think it's like finding that balance between the two
Speaker 4: because again, you have this need to provide for them,
Speaker 4: but at the same time you want them to have
Speaker 4: some responsibility. And like maybe that's the key there is
Speaker 4: to anything that the bonus is, like like perhaps her
Speaker 4: entertainment while she's in school and things like that. Perhaps
Speaker 4: is that one.
Speaker 3: Let's bring on her, right, Yeah, and that there's like
Speaker 3: a you know that the funds are earmarked for something
Speaker 3: like this is for your education or a down payment
Speaker 3: or maybe a vehicle, you know, like those kind of necessities,
Speaker 3: and let her see the work you know that you
Speaker 3: guys have done to get that money. I think it's
Speaker 3: important to show that work if you invested it, Like God,
Speaker 3: I wish that would be a great forget about budgeting
Speaker 3: and like credit card, a certain point I wish my
Speaker 3: parents have been like, here's an i RA and you know,
Speaker 3: get yourself set up and contribute your little money to it.
Speaker 3: That would have been such an amazing gift.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just put because you know now that she's quote
Speaker 1: unquot working, I put her IRA money. You know because
Speaker 1: right now the maximum for raw iray six thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year. So I said, Alyssa, six thousand dollars going
Speaker 1: to be deposit into your account. It is not for
Speaker 1: sixteen year old me, Lissa, it is for sixty five
Speaker 1: year old listen. She was like, I said, I mean,
Speaker 1: I texted to her. I called her about it. I
Speaker 1: let her mama know, depositive the money, the IRI, the
Speaker 1: raw Thiray account, like my financial advisor went to withdraw
Speaker 1: it it. The withdraw got denied and I'm like why
Speaker 1: and she said, because the money's not there. I was like,
Speaker 1: not all of it. A couple hundred, I said, Alyssa
Speaker 1: Banna Smith. I text her, I said, I set her
Speaker 1: the screenshot of the financial advisor saying that some of
Speaker 1: the money's not there.
Speaker 2: It wasn't. She was like, oh, I thought they had
Speaker 2: taken it already.
Speaker 1: I said, you thought you just had a just an
Speaker 1: extra six thousand dollars in your accounts because I told her.
Speaker 2: Like I think I told her the day that like,
Speaker 2: oh the money.
Speaker 3: Was withdrawn, Oh you put it in her bank accounts
Speaker 3: so it could be transferred to her exactly.
Speaker 1: I had called her, yes, and so she doesn't know what.
Speaker 1: I was like, Alyssa, So I'm texting her. I was like,
Speaker 1: where is the money?
Speaker 2: She was like, oh, I thought that that was like extra.
Speaker 2: I was wondering with that money. I was like this,
Speaker 2: you had exercise.
Speaker 1: I'm not aware, Like we're what And so she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna put back.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it back.
Speaker 1: So I guess because she has her own savings account,
Speaker 1: so I guess she must have like transferred it back.
Speaker 1: And I was like, let's have a talk after school,
Speaker 1: and she was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's back. Like chat.
Speaker 1: But those are the types of mistakes that she ought
Speaker 1: to make, you know, because I told her, I said,
Speaker 1: if that's gonna happen, then I'm not gonna put money
Speaker 1: in your account. Like the reason why you're able to
Speaker 1: do this is that you cannot have a retirement account
Speaker 1: if you don't. If you're not making earned income and
Speaker 1: you're legitimately my TikTok manager, and so I pay you
Speaker 1: and then this is part of your payment where we're
Speaker 1: setting it aside. So that way you can set aside money.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not taking my dad. It's so crazy
Speaker 1: because I remember my dad having this conversation with me
Speaker 1: when I'm around her age and he was like transferring
Speaker 1: money from my checking to my savings and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking your money, I'm giving it from Tiffany
Speaker 1: to Tiffany, you know. And so it was crazy that
Speaker 1: was having that same conversation and like it might feel like, oh, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: the other woman that have nice things and candles whatever,
Speaker 1: was like, no, it's going from Alyssa to Alyssa. It's
Speaker 1: just that Alyssa right now doesn't need it like Alyssa
Speaker 1: later will need it. And so having, you know, knowing that,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the next time I do is she's still
Speaker 1: gonna spend it. But we'll have those conversations because she's sixteen,
Speaker 1: and so if you have them enough by the time
Speaker 1: she's twenty five, she's good to go, you know. And
Speaker 1: so just keeping that in mind that, yeah, the mistakes
Speaker 1: will happen. But to Mandy's point, having those conversations, like
Speaker 1: you know, I told her like what a rowth ira
Speaker 1: is and why that's so important and what that will
Speaker 1: look like, and you know, like I know that she
Speaker 1: doesn't fully understand, but I know that I'm planning the seeds,
Speaker 1: you know, for a sixteen year old who becomes a
Speaker 1: twenty something year old who's like, oh got it, you know, yesh.
Speaker 1: But I could not believe. But I was like, I
Speaker 1: just told this girl not.
Speaker 2: To touch money.
Speaker 3: Alissa, you ate a aajillionaire business badass, like you got
Speaker 3: everything going for you, going everything your project.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, do you know I don't want
Speaker 2: to test that.
Speaker 1: Money, no pressure, No, but hopefully Caroenen, this was really helpful.
Speaker 4: No, it was. It was. I so appreciate it. Really
Speaker 4: just getting thinking a little bit differently, right.
Speaker 3: M hmmm.
Speaker 2: Yes.
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