WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Toughest Test Yet? 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.600 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:14.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This he's Talking 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.000 Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:30.120 the Star in Friscott. And now your hosts, I say 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:36.000 a stand back, Patrick Walker, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.199 It is a beautiful Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys presented 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.760 by Black Rifle Coffee Company. Here from the Star in 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.800 Frisco in the SWBC studios. Today we break down the 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:55.320 Cowboys offense against the Vaulted Rams. Defense should be a 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.840 whole lot of fun. What was it? Vaunted? Vaunted? You said, 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.160 that's it vaulted to do an l there, I have 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.800 a new tray in here. Didn't work out, But yeah, 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.920 we're previous, like and when you're Black Rifle Coffee, And 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.720 that's also true. Called up yet that is also true. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.319 It's a double double dip. I'd literally just close the 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.800 cup of or like the lid on top of this 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.000 coff Are you a double dipper? Huh? Are you a 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.559 double dipper? Are you talking about reference? Huh? You double 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:26.400 dip like in like into salsa? Yeah? No, no, Why 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.039 would I ever care if it's by myself. Yeah, but 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:37.399 the chip you do and then you fil reference. No, no, 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.160 once you do, you get enough to satisfy. Only when 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.520 you're by yourself. I don't even think that's counting as 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.080 double dipping about yourself when I'm by myself and depending 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.800 on the personal but yeah, significant other wife, yes, yeah, 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.360 it's okay. I'm not double defining anybody. Yeah, nobody, not 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.280 not wife, kids. I don't double dip when I'm by myself. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.920 But I will do the final scrape. I mean, you know, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.880 like if you're you're going to edges, yeah, I'm going, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.640 oh yeah, that final chip and I'm I'm not I 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.840 could go get some more. No, okay, see, okay, all right, okay, 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.960 you're a second time in a row. Like yesterday you're like, 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.040 oh I don't need the money. I don't need to 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.240 give up the baseball. And now you're like, oh, I'll 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.799 just go get more chips and dip, that's all. Yeah, 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.079 I'm just going to two days in a row. I'm scraping. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.400 We're in a different tax bracket here. Okay. Friend, last 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:28.840 year we had the Golden Grounds, the Golden Ground. Forgot 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.440 about the Golden Grounds. Those were glorious. Why why would 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.840 you bring that up? Why is that hot? You know 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.880 how my brain works. And you say something like triggers 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.560 off a whole little line of the sequence of movies, 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.000 and you said double dip. That's fair, And I'm right there. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.880 I call it reference sign food reference. But I don't 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.600 know why we spent the first five minutes of our 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.800 show talking about whether or not we doubled it. I 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.720 was okay with it. And we talked about the Yankees 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.120 for ten minutes yesterday. We don't get talking about it 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.560 for forty five minutes yesterday. I don't be a ciler. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:01.520 Let's let's keep your row, don't siler another Signfeler reference? Yeah, yeah, see, 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.280 I see you. I'm not even like a big Seinfeld guy. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.520 Really wasn't big on Yeah. Uh, how we're doing everybody 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.880 in twenty six? Well that's why. Yeah, that's what I 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.480 watched Friends and like that seventy show, right, you watch 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.880 some of the other ones. Yeah, I mean that's all. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.239 That's all. Me and Rob watching the training camp was 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.480 friends much on in the room, you know, Shark Week 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.520 and Friends. It was a little bit of both. Uh, 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.160 Shark Weeks over Yeah, oh, Friends we're not going to 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.079 start that right now. Yeah, I don't know about that one. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.440 That one's that's a that's a risk that it's almost 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.120 as bad as your catchup take. Hey, I know almost 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.640 as good. I know we're going to the offense today 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.200 versus the Rams defense. But before we do that, before 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.720 we turn the page, you know, I'll turn a page. Um, 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.080 the question came up about jay Ron Curse and when 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.800 he presents himself back into the lineup, how does that 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.400 directly affect Donovan Wilson? Did you were you guys? A 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.600 word of Donovan Wilson is a top ten tackler in 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.240 the NFL right now. Yes, leads this team and tackles 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.080 doesn't really surprise me. But that's the number seven in 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.000 the league right now in tackles, number two graded twenty 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.000 seven tackles on the year. The number one player has 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.760 thirty one. So just an interesting conversation about how his 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:21.239 snaps might be affect number one. Day one Pete Warner 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:25.640 from New Orleans. So the very interesting part about that 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.000 was we talked about it the other day. I think 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.920 it was Tuesday that we really dove into the jay 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.960 Ron Curse and Donovan Wilson's side of things. But it's 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.279 not like the defensive line where you can just rotate 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.960 and you get these guys fresh in there. We were 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.680 talking with Barry Church the other day, and of course, 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.320 somebody who's played safety in the league, I even said that. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.000 I was like, why don't you just rotate the guys 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.320 in and go back and forth? And Barry was like, no, no, no, no, 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.160 that doesn't work like that. There's a rhythm, there's uh, 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.640 there's a chemistry that works from the top of the 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.880 defense down that's different than if you're just going at 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.640 somebody because you have to know where to be and 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.000 when to be there and so on and so forth. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.479 So Barry was like, no, you can't really move those 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.360 guys around enough. So, yeah, it's a question of what 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.120 happens when Kurse comes back and how does that affect 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.880 Donovan Wilson in terms of his playing time and the 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.640 ability to put all three of those guys out on 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.800 the field, including hooker well as much as three safety 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.640 as they play. I mean, you can play them all together. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.279 And one thing that that Kurse said yesterday, and by 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.200 the way, he was full and practiced yesterday for the 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.039 first time since week one and basically was saying he's 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.040 ready to go. That's what it sounds like. And he 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.359 tweeted that picture of a three headed monster, which I 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:37.039 actually missed that on Tuesday, and he was referring to 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:41.200 the three guys, Malik Hooker, Dono, and himself, and his 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.000 point was that they all compliment each other very very well. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.440 Dono is that big time hitter box safety guy, set 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.080 the tone, Curse, can take out tight ends, and he 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.560 can kind of do whatever you need him to do. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.279 And Malik is that kind of that post safety cover 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.520 in the middle of the field, and so they really 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.240 do compliment each other very well. I don't I don't 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.839 think you have a problem here. I mean, if you 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.600 have a problem, it's a good problem. You play him 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.520 all together. I don't think you have a problem at all, 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.880 even if it's a great problem. Because dan Quin sett himself, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:09.839 he said, you know, don't worry about it. It's more 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.200 or less it's figured out. And then you you harken 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.400 back to when they all played together in week one, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.000 Curse started, Donovan Wilson started. They both got a healthy 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.840 amount of chunks chunk of snaps. Rather with a Malie 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.800 Cooker prior to you know, curse suffering the injury. But 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.599 it's basically just going back to what that was. You 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.440 have hurse like curse, like Rob said, curses the hybrid, right, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.560 he's more so that linebacker role. He will be able 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.360 to delete tight ends and kind of play a little 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:38.640 bit more freely lower than safety level. You got Donald 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.520 coming downhill setting the tone, and you know, you got 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.640 Malie Cooker playing the center field role. So you know, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.160 I love curses, tweet, the three headed monster. It all 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.440 serves one purpose. So for everyone that's wondering, oh what 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.000 about Donald, But also I wanted to add you look 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.280 at and I'm sure Donovan Wilson's GPS is off the 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.240 charts from this season and that's why he got some 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.719 workload management yesterday. So you know, if in fact curses 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:02.960 back and it sounds like he is going to be 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.080 back this week, if you did see Donovan Wilsons for 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.160 whatever reason, if you saw his REP scale back a 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.200 little bit from one hundred percent to like eighty nine percent, 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.880 it could also go to the Cowboys playing the long 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:15.920 game when it comes to Donovan Wilson, because we keep 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:17.840 talking about it, it's a long season, long season. You 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.920 just you don't want to risk injury to somebody that important, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.440 especially considering just last year he battled a couple of vents. So, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.640 you know, I think they're playing it wisely, but I 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.920 think you know, and dan Quinne I trust. So whould 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.680 you guys guess as a second leading tackler in elgue 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:38.440 in the league, you know, in on donas Cowboys Layton. Yeah, 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:43.560 Anthony Brown. Wow, it's kind of wild. How many tackles 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:50.080 does he have? Has eighteen? We see Yoush has fifteen. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.000 That's sneaky because I feel like it would be illvs 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.920 thoughts too interesting, interesting stance. Okay, there you go. Yeah, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.200 yeah we can previous letter freaking random and all I 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.040 get out. Yeah, that he's in the top ten, How 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.840 are you? I mean, I'm not surprised by the fact, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.240 but it's kind of what we've talked about. We've mentioned 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.040 him every week he's either flying around and making plays 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.080 but also giving up some plays. And then there last 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:15.640 week he kind of put it all together and he 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.400 didn't give up anything big either. Yeah, it will to tackle. Well. Yeah. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.640 The other thing Kurs said yesterday was he was asked, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.680 this is the best safety group in the league. And 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.840 what's he gonna say? But he said hands down, I 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.720 mean he doubled. He was like, I'll put us up 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.040 against anybody's safety to safety. What do you guys think? 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.760 Is there another group? Yeah? I think it's arguable, but 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.360 I could see the argument for them, and especially with 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.560 me being so close to using the E word on 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.360 Donovan Wilson. Give me a couple more weeks. Yeah, I 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.560 almost did it. We're almost there. A couple more weeks 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.680 and I'll be ready to drop that word. Donovan Wilson 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:54.880 and James Money. Yeah, yeah, contract. I think he actually 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.840 has more tackles than Derwin James as I'm looking at it, Well, yeah, James, 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.040 I think missed a game or two. He's been battling 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.360 some injuries back and forth. It's just crazy we're talking 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.560 about the safety position in these terms because every year 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.600 it is like, oh, why didn't they do this, Why 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.520 didn't they draft this guy, why didn't they sign this guy? 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.360 And now they've got three guys they feel great about, yeah, 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.640 and two younger guys that can step up here and 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.640 get the job done while they develop him while quiet 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:26.199 Bill and um tell me out what's mother guy. Yeah, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.920 mcquoma is probably either him or Bell are probably the 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.240 odd man out in that scenario whenever Curse comes back. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.400 Especially Bell, I think he's probably in that conversation because 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.880 he's jay Ron Curse two point zero, and so putting 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.719 him back into the fold as Curse is concerned, then 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.720 I think Bell would probably be that next second. They 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.520 also have Tyler Coy developing on the practice squad. I mean, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:51.000 the safety unit is just yeah, Tete Kenyon d It's 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.600 done a really good job of revamping that group over 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.440 the last couple of years. Any other news and notes 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.560 robbed from yesterday when the Cowboys were back in the field, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.600 Just quick glance at the injury report for you guys. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.640 Did not practice on the active roster. Dak of course, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:08.040 who's still in the rehab group, and um, you know, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.800 Mike did not rule him out, but he's still not 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.800 to the point where he's throwing yet, So take that 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.120 how you want to. As far as this week, Jordan 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.840 Lewis did not practice with that growing injury, and Jake Ferguson, 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.880 Jake keep an eye on him. He did not practice 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:28.160 yesterday with a knee injury. Yeah, not Dalton Schultz is full. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.040 That's the one. That's the one. Keep an eye on 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.800 that one. No, No, When I say that's the one, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.439 I mean that as far as the injury report of 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.600 his concerned, I mean, we didn't expect to join Lewis 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.080 Wood practice. We didn't expect that Dak prescott Wood practice. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.240 But we did not expect to see Jake Ferguson as 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.280 a DNP on the injury report. So I mean it 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.559 works for them that Dalton Scholtz's back. We don't know 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.880 who Dalton is necessarily a hundred percent right now, but 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.240 Peyton him dirt shot, as I like to call him. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.400 You know, if Ferguson can't go for whatever reason, then 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.360 you know, Peyton gets gets more rips. I get what 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.280 you were saying in terms of the injury or but 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:01.720 now I want to go back to what you were 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.280 saying in terms of you said Hendershot is the one. 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.800 What did you mean by that? What were you leading 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:12.240 on there? So your eyes listening? What are you trying 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.120 to stir up in the corner room. I like his upside, okay, 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:19.440 as with what as a pass catching tight end, Absolutely 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:24.040 he's a canny block shoot only one tight end in 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.360 the room could block right now? Who is that Sholtz 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:34.320 a little bit maybe blo okay, okay, okay, you say block. 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.360 I put guys in a category of a George Kittle, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.520 and you know they're being guys like not all planets 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.840 the same time. I'm just saying when you say blocking 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:47.720 tight ends the guys like saying somebody's fats okay, fast 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.280 and compared to who. So I like his Marster, I 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:57.000 like I'll be Jupiter, but most planet there. I like 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.400 his swag. I like his confidence. I like the direction 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.240 he's going. You look at some of the opportunities that 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.040 he's had this year. I think he's taking full advantage 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.480 of them, and I think he's just going to continue 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.200 to grow and get better. You know what I love 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.440 about him to show aside from I think that he's 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:15.800 a you know, prototypical catching tight end, playmaking tight end 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.120 who just can get separation like a wide receiver. So 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.440 I love him for that, But I also love his 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.000 I love his confidence, but I love that he balances 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:25.880 it with the humility of knowing what he needs to 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.319 improve upon. So good, great question, Clow as far as 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:32.320 his run blocking blocking period, because I posed the question 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.000 to him a couple of weeks ago and I told him, 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.839 I said, hey, you're one of the better separating tight 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:39.040 ends that i've seen. What's your assessment of yourself in 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.120 the blocking game? He said, I can get better, and 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:42.679 he said I need to put the work in to 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.960 do that. And I was, you know, kind of taking 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.760 it back in a great way. I was like, Okay, No, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.719 this is a young guy who gets it and he 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.040 knows where he needs to improve and he's putting in 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:52.240 the work for that. And I saw a couple of 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.320 improved blocks from him over the past couple of weeks. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.640 So he's putting in the work and it's slowly starting 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.120 to show. You know, what we say on this show, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.520 use PF only to either back up your point or 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.800 whenever they're always right, and they're always right in this regard. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.439 Jake Ferguson as an eighty grade in terms of UH. 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.120 In terms of blocking, he's an eighty grade. Ferguson is 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.520 that's eighth in the league in terms of tight ends. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.079 So PFF's one hundred percent right on that all the 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.960 way through. Peyton hender Shot, on the other hand, he's 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.440 a thirty five grade, which is like bottom five block, 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.680 which is that's just not what he's supposed to do. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.880 He's not the same thing. He's Jarwin. Yeah, he's Blake Jarwin. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.200 He's like, he's the younger version of Jarwin, and and 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:37.160 they're looking at to kind of be more of the Yeah, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:41.920 coming out of college. Sulzer is right, by the way, 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.080 let's just say right now, let's just say yeah. I like, 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.320 like I said, PFF's not always right, but I pulled 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.760 it up just to see what they had never shot 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:56.720 him up there. Jake Ferguson is creditive for delicious. Pressed 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.400 me from what I thought he would be. He's for delicious. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.480 When he first showed up, I was not a believer. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:07.640 But again, you know he's he's a good guy, good guy. 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.240 That tandem as long as that, you know, depending upon 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.760 what happens with Scholtz in the off season to come, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.440 obviously we'll see. But if the tandem for twenty three 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.520 and beyond is you know, Fergie and hid the shot, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.680 that's basically what the Cowboys were looking for with Shouts 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.360 Jarwin that they didn't get because of the Darwin injury. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.440 So yeah, it will be a promising tandem, say the least, 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.080 what what are you trying to start up again? I 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.200 didn't say anything, nothing at all. You're you're so like 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.480 sub dude. But just so, what you're saying is Scholtzi 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.480 needs a Dalty needs he needs a big deal in 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.280 the off season. Salty Salty won't be here so they 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:51.360 could tranchise him again, say with the chest. They won't 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.160 do it. I'm saying it's an option. They just want 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.360 to keep his right. It's also a possibility, but we'll 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.640 see how that unless that comes back and throws him 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:03.720 the ball every path and pays like Gigby style exactly. Yeah, 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:08.640 definitely that's the one two punch. All right, let's take 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.040 our first break before we go to break though. We 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:15.160 miss something yesterday that our good friend across the Pond, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.120 John John Nelson sent us a message on Twitter. I 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.480 had it written down. I didn't have it in the 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.240 rundown yesterday, which is a big problem, so I just 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:28.200 completely forgot to go to it. But happy belated birthday 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:32.520 to Abby Abbey across Unday. Yeah we we we all 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.360 responded on Twitter, but I wanted to get it in 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.440 this show and give a shout out. John's a good 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.360 friend of ours. He's a huge supporter. We love him, 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.800 we love Abby and of course, happy birthday. I hope 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.600 it was a good one. And here's a little extra 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.760 gift to keep it going right. Absolutely, she turned thirteen yesterday, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.160 So there you going all right? When we come back 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.960 here on Talking Cowboys presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.760 we preview the Cowboys offense. Can some of these pass 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:59.320 catchers have some success against Jalen Ramsey and the rams 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.600 secondary us? Is this the Cooper or the toughest tests 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.240 for Cooper Rush to this point in the season. 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Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back, Patrick nose Walker, 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.600 I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us? Is this the 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.359 toughest test for Cooper Rush to this point in the season, Isaiah, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:55.960 When you look at the film and you see what 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.240 the Rams are gonna bring to the table. I mean, MPa, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.680 Bay was tough, Cincinnati was good on the defensive side 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.080 of the ball. Then you had New York and Washington. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:11.200 Washington had hits own challenges. Where where does the Rams 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.520 defensive unit stand in terms of their challenge level? The 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:20.240 Cooper rush and this Cowboys offense. Good question, Kyle. I'm 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.960 not sure if I really know. I think last week 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.960 was a pretty good test for him in this offense 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:31.280 and this attirety. I think in terms of dominant players 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.800 at each level, this is probably the best test that 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:39.119 he's had yet. I think last week the defensive line 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.800 and that front seven was pretty stout. Obviously the defensive 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.640 line but with the Bama Boys or solid. But now 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:49.239 you're getting into dominant players at every single level that 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:53.360 aren't necessarily playing well collectively, but you know that they can. 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.200 You hope that they don't figure it out against you. 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:01.840 But you have undoubtedly the best defensive linemen in the 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.320 game right now, or arguably one of the best ever. 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.040 I mean Aaron Donald. You go to the next level, 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.680 you have a little bit older Bobby Wagner, but he 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.119 still is smart, savvy, strong, Bobby Wagner and then you 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.760 go obviously to the cornerback to the secondary, and you 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.920 have Jalen Ramsey, who is still Jalen Ramsey. And it's 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:24.280 not somebody that you want to piss off because he's 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.520 if he's not having a good game defensively in terms 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.720 of in terms of being a defensive back and knocking 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:31.880 balls down and sticking with the receivers, and he's probably 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.480 gonna be tackling well or vice versa. And if you 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.120 get him on the on a good day, he's gonna 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.680 be doing both pretty pretty well. So MS in terms 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.240 of competitors, like peer competitors. Last week we had questions, 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.440 are the Bama bros? Are they friends again? Are they 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.800 playing together? Like? Are they cool today? Are they not? 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.879 You know, this is a defense that plays together. They 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.520 like to play together, like to have fun, and they 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.040 know that they're the best at what they do. So 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:57.600 we'll see. I don't I don't. I don't know if 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.160 it's going to be a collective collectively or defense, but 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.720 they definitely have dudes. You know that he has to 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:05.840