1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This he's Talking 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: the Star in Friscott. And now your hosts, I say 5 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: a stand back, Patrick Walker, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman. 6 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: It is a beautiful Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys presented 7 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: by Black Rifle Coffee Company. Here from the Star in 8 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Frisco in the SWBC studios. Today we break down the 9 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense against the Vaulted Rams. Defense should be a 10 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: whole lot of fun. What was it? Vaunted? Vaunted? You said, 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: that's it vaulted to do an l there, I have 12 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: a new tray in here. Didn't work out, But yeah, 13 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: we're previous, like and when you're Black Rifle Coffee, And 14 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: that's also true. Called up yet that is also true. 15 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: It's a double double dip. I'd literally just close the 16 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: cup of or like the lid on top of this 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: coff Are you a double dipper? Huh? Are you a 18 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: double dipper? Are you talking about reference? Huh? You double 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: dip like in like into salsa? Yeah? No, no, Why 20 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: would I ever care if it's by myself. Yeah, but 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: the chip you do and then you fil reference. No, no, 22 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: once you do, you get enough to satisfy. Only when 23 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: you're by yourself. I don't even think that's counting as 24 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: double dipping about yourself when I'm by myself and depending 25 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: on the personal but yeah, significant other wife, yes, yeah, 26 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: it's okay. I'm not double defining anybody. Yeah, nobody, not 27 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: not wife, kids. I don't double dip when I'm by myself. 28 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: But I will do the final scrape. I mean, you know, 29 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: like if you're you're going to edges, yeah, I'm going, 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that final chip and I'm I'm not I 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: could go get some more. No, okay, see, okay, all right, okay, 32 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: you're a second time in a row. Like yesterday you're like, 33 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: oh I don't need the money. I don't need to 34 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: give up the baseball. And now you're like, oh, I'll 35 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: just go get more chips and dip, that's all. Yeah, 36 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: I'm just going to two days in a row. I'm scraping. 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: We're in a different tax bracket here. Okay. Friend, last 38 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: year we had the Golden Grounds, the Golden Ground. Forgot 39 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: about the Golden Grounds. Those were glorious. Why why would 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: you bring that up? Why is that hot? You know 41 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: how my brain works. And you say something like triggers 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: off a whole little line of the sequence of movies, 43 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: and you said double dip. That's fair, And I'm right there. 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: I call it reference sign food reference. But I don't 45 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: know why we spent the first five minutes of our 46 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: show talking about whether or not we doubled it. I 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: was okay with it. And we talked about the Yankees 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: for ten minutes yesterday. We don't get talking about it 49 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: for forty five minutes yesterday. I don't be a ciler. 50 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: Let's let's keep your row, don't siler another Signfeler reference? Yeah, yeah, see, 51 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: I see you. I'm not even like a big Seinfeld guy. 52 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: Really wasn't big on Yeah. Uh, how we're doing everybody 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: in twenty six? Well that's why. Yeah, that's what I 54 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: watched Friends and like that seventy show, right, you watch 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: some of the other ones. Yeah, I mean that's all. 56 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: That's all. Me and Rob watching the training camp was 57 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: friends much on in the room, you know, Shark Week 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: and Friends. It was a little bit of both. Uh, 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Shark Weeks over Yeah, oh, Friends we're not going to 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: start that right now. Yeah, I don't know about that one. 61 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: That one's that's a that's a risk that it's almost 62 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: as bad as your catchup take. Hey, I know almost 63 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: as good. I know we're going to the offense today 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: versus the Rams defense. But before we do that, before 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: we turn the page, you know, I'll turn a page. Um, 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: the question came up about jay Ron Curse and when 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: he presents himself back into the lineup, how does that 68 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: directly affect Donovan Wilson? Did you were you guys? A 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: word of Donovan Wilson is a top ten tackler in 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: the NFL right now. Yes, leads this team and tackles 71 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: doesn't really surprise me. But that's the number seven in 72 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: the league right now in tackles, number two graded twenty 73 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: seven tackles on the year. The number one player has 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: thirty one. So just an interesting conversation about how his 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: snaps might be affect number one. Day one Pete Warner 76 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: from New Orleans. So the very interesting part about that 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: was we talked about it the other day. I think 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: it was Tuesday that we really dove into the jay 79 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: Ron Curse and Donovan Wilson's side of things. But it's 80 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: not like the defensive line where you can just rotate 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: and you get these guys fresh in there. We were 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: talking with Barry Church the other day, and of course, 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: somebody who's played safety in the league, I even said that. 84 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: I was like, why don't you just rotate the guys 85 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: in and go back and forth? And Barry was like, no, no, no, no, 86 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't work like that. There's a rhythm, there's uh, 87 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: there's a chemistry that works from the top of the 88 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: defense down that's different than if you're just going at 89 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: somebody because you have to know where to be and 90 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: when to be there and so on and so forth. 91 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: So Barry was like, no, you can't really move those 92 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: guys around enough. So, yeah, it's a question of what 93 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: happens when Kurse comes back and how does that affect 94 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson in terms of his playing time and the 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: ability to put all three of those guys out on 96 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: the field, including hooker well as much as three safety 97 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: as they play. I mean, you can play them all together. 98 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: And one thing that that Kurse said yesterday, and by 99 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: the way, he was full and practiced yesterday for the 100 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: first time since week one and basically was saying he's 101 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: ready to go. That's what it sounds like. And he 102 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: tweeted that picture of a three headed monster, which I 103 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: actually missed that on Tuesday, and he was referring to 104 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: the three guys, Malik Hooker, Dono, and himself, and his 105 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: point was that they all compliment each other very very well. 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: Dono is that big time hitter box safety guy, set 107 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: the tone, Curse, can take out tight ends, and he 108 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: can kind of do whatever you need him to do. 109 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: And Malik is that kind of that post safety cover 110 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, and so they really 111 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: do compliment each other very well. I don't I don't 112 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: think you have a problem here. I mean, if you 113 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: have a problem, it's a good problem. You play him 114 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: all together. I don't think you have a problem at all, 115 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: even if it's a great problem. Because dan Quin sett himself, 116 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: he said, you know, don't worry about it. It's more 117 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: or less it's figured out. And then you you harken 118 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: back to when they all played together in week one, 119 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: Curse started, Donovan Wilson started. They both got a healthy 120 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: amount of chunks chunk of snaps. Rather with a Malie 121 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Cooker prior to you know, curse suffering the injury. But 122 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: it's basically just going back to what that was. You 123 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: have hurse like curse, like Rob said, curses the hybrid, right, 124 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: he's more so that linebacker role. He will be able 125 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: to delete tight ends and kind of play a little 126 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: bit more freely lower than safety level. You got Donald 127 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: coming downhill setting the tone, and you know, you got 128 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Malie Cooker playing the center field role. So you know, 129 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: I love curses, tweet, the three headed monster. It all 130 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: serves one purpose. So for everyone that's wondering, oh what 131 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: about Donald, But also I wanted to add you look 132 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: at and I'm sure Donovan Wilson's GPS is off the 133 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: charts from this season and that's why he got some 134 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: workload management yesterday. So you know, if in fact curses 135 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: back and it sounds like he is going to be 136 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: back this week, if you did see Donovan Wilsons for 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: whatever reason, if you saw his REP scale back a 138 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: little bit from one hundred percent to like eighty nine percent, 139 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: it could also go to the Cowboys playing the long 140 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: game when it comes to Donovan Wilson, because we keep 141 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: talking about it, it's a long season, long season. You 142 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: just you don't want to risk injury to somebody that important, 143 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: especially considering just last year he battled a couple of vents. So, 144 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think they're playing it wisely, but I 145 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: think you know, and dan Quinne I trust. So whould 146 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: you guys guess as a second leading tackler in elgue 147 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: in the league, you know, in on donas Cowboys Layton. Yeah, 148 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. Wow, it's kind of wild. How many tackles 149 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: does he have? Has eighteen? We see Yoush has fifteen. 150 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: That's sneaky because I feel like it would be illvs 151 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: thoughts too interesting, interesting stance. Okay, there you go. Yeah, 152 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: yeah we can previous letter freaking random and all I 153 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: get out. Yeah, that he's in the top ten, How 154 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: are you? I mean, I'm not surprised by the fact, 155 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: but it's kind of what we've talked about. We've mentioned 156 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: him every week he's either flying around and making plays 157 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: but also giving up some plays. And then there last 158 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: week he kind of put it all together and he 159 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: didn't give up anything big either. Yeah, it will to tackle. Well. Yeah. 160 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: The other thing Kurs said yesterday was he was asked, 161 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: this is the best safety group in the league. And 162 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: what's he gonna say? But he said hands down, I 163 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: mean he doubled. He was like, I'll put us up 164 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: against anybody's safety to safety. What do you guys think? 165 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: Is there another group? Yeah? I think it's arguable, but 166 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: I could see the argument for them, and especially with 167 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: me being so close to using the E word on 168 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson. Give me a couple more weeks. Yeah, I 169 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: almost did it. We're almost there. A couple more weeks 170 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: and I'll be ready to drop that word. Donovan Wilson 171 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: and James Money. Yeah, yeah, contract. I think he actually 172 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: has more tackles than Derwin James as I'm looking at it, Well, yeah, James, 173 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: I think missed a game or two. He's been battling 174 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: some injuries back and forth. It's just crazy we're talking 175 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: about the safety position in these terms because every year 176 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: it is like, oh, why didn't they do this, Why 177 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: didn't they draft this guy, why didn't they sign this guy? 178 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: And now they've got three guys they feel great about, yeah, 179 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: and two younger guys that can step up here and 180 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: get the job done while they develop him while quiet 181 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: Bill and um tell me out what's mother guy. Yeah, 182 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: mcquoma is probably either him or Bell are probably the 183 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: odd man out in that scenario whenever Curse comes back. 184 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: Especially Bell, I think he's probably in that conversation because 185 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: he's jay Ron Curse two point zero, and so putting 186 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: him back into the fold as Curse is concerned, then 187 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: I think Bell would probably be that next second. They 188 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: also have Tyler Coy developing on the practice squad. I mean, 189 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: the safety unit is just yeah, Tete Kenyon d It's 190 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: done a really good job of revamping that group over 191 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Any other news and notes 192 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: robbed from yesterday when the Cowboys were back in the field, 193 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Just quick glance at the injury report for you guys. 194 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: Did not practice on the active roster. Dak of course, 195 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: who's still in the rehab group, and um, you know, 196 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: Mike did not rule him out, but he's still not 197 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: to the point where he's throwing yet, So take that 198 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: how you want to. As far as this week, Jordan 199 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: Lewis did not practice with that growing injury, and Jake Ferguson, 200 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: Jake keep an eye on him. He did not practice 201 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: yesterday with a knee injury. Yeah, not Dalton Schultz is full. 202 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: That's the one. That's the one. Keep an eye on 203 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: that one. No, No, When I say that's the one, 204 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: I mean that as far as the injury report of 205 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: his concerned, I mean, we didn't expect to join Lewis 206 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Wood practice. We didn't expect that Dak prescott Wood practice. 207 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: But we did not expect to see Jake Ferguson as 208 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: a DNP on the injury report. So I mean it 209 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: works for them that Dalton Scholtz's back. We don't know 210 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: who Dalton is necessarily a hundred percent right now, but 211 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: Peyton him dirt shot, as I like to call him. 212 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: You know, if Ferguson can't go for whatever reason, then 213 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, Peyton gets gets more rips. I get what 214 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: you were saying in terms of the injury or but 215 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: now I want to go back to what you were 216 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: saying in terms of you said Hendershot is the one. 217 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: What did you mean by that? What were you leading 218 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: on there? So your eyes listening? What are you trying 219 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: to stir up in the corner room. I like his upside, okay, 220 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: as with what as a pass catching tight end, Absolutely 221 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: he's a canny block shoot only one tight end in 222 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: the room could block right now? Who is that Sholtz 223 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: a little bit maybe blo okay, okay, okay, you say block. 224 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I put guys in a category of a George Kittle, 225 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: and you know they're being guys like not all planets 226 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: the same time. I'm just saying when you say blocking 227 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: tight ends the guys like saying somebody's fats okay, fast 228 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: and compared to who. So I like his Marster, I 229 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: like I'll be Jupiter, but most planet there. I like 230 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: his swag. I like his confidence. I like the direction 231 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: he's going. You look at some of the opportunities that 232 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: he's had this year. I think he's taking full advantage 233 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: of them, and I think he's just going to continue 234 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: to grow and get better. You know what I love 235 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: about him to show aside from I think that he's 236 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: a you know, prototypical catching tight end, playmaking tight end 237 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: who just can get separation like a wide receiver. So 238 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: I love him for that, But I also love his 239 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I love his confidence, but I love that he balances 240 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: it with the humility of knowing what he needs to 241 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: improve upon. So good, great question, Clow as far as 242 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: his run blocking blocking period, because I posed the question 243 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: to him a couple of weeks ago and I told him, 244 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: I said, hey, you're one of the better separating tight 245 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: ends that i've seen. What's your assessment of yourself in 246 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: the blocking game? He said, I can get better, and 247 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: he said I need to put the work in to 248 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: do that. And I was, you know, kind of taking 249 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: it back in a great way. I was like, Okay, No, 250 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: this is a young guy who gets it and he 251 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: knows where he needs to improve and he's putting in 252 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: the work for that. And I saw a couple of 253 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: improved blocks from him over the past couple of weeks. 254 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: So he's putting in the work and it's slowly starting 255 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: to show. You know, what we say on this show, 256 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: use PF only to either back up your point or 257 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: whenever they're always right, and they're always right in this regard. 258 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson as an eighty grade in terms of UH. 259 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: In terms of blocking, he's an eighty grade. Ferguson is 260 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: that's eighth in the league in terms of tight ends. 261 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: So PFF's one hundred percent right on that all the 262 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: way through. Peyton hender Shot, on the other hand, he's 263 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: a thirty five grade, which is like bottom five block, 264 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: which is that's just not what he's supposed to do. 265 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: He's not the same thing. He's Jarwin. Yeah, he's Blake Jarwin. 266 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: He's like, he's the younger version of Jarwin, and and 267 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: they're looking at to kind of be more of the Yeah, 268 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: coming out of college. Sulzer is right, by the way, 269 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: let's just say right now, let's just say yeah. I like, 270 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: like I said, PFF's not always right, but I pulled 271 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: it up just to see what they had never shot 272 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: him up there. Jake Ferguson is creditive for delicious. Pressed 273 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: me from what I thought he would be. He's for delicious. 274 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: When he first showed up, I was not a believer. 275 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: But again, you know he's he's a good guy, good guy. 276 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: That tandem as long as that, you know, depending upon 277 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: what happens with Scholtz in the off season to come, 278 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: obviously we'll see. But if the tandem for twenty three 279 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: and beyond is you know, Fergie and hid the shot, 280 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: that's basically what the Cowboys were looking for with Shouts 281 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: Jarwin that they didn't get because of the Darwin injury. 282 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, it will be a promising tandem, say the least, 283 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: what what are you trying to start up again? I 284 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: didn't say anything, nothing at all. You're you're so like 285 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: sub dude. But just so, what you're saying is Scholtzi 286 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: needs a Dalty needs he needs a big deal in 287 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: the off season. Salty Salty won't be here so they 288 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: could tranchise him again, say with the chest. They won't 289 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: do it. I'm saying it's an option. They just want 290 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: to keep his right. It's also a possibility, but we'll 291 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: see how that unless that comes back and throws him 292 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: the ball every path and pays like Gigby style exactly. Yeah, 293 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: definitely that's the one two punch. All right, let's take 294 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: our first break before we go to break though. We 295 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: miss something yesterday that our good friend across the Pond, 296 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: John John Nelson sent us a message on Twitter. I 297 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: had it written down. I didn't have it in the 298 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: rundown yesterday, which is a big problem, so I just 299 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: completely forgot to go to it. But happy belated birthday 300 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: to Abby Abbey across Unday. Yeah we we we all 301 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: responded on Twitter, but I wanted to get it in 302 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: this show and give a shout out. John's a good 303 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: friend of ours. He's a huge supporter. We love him, 304 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: we love Abby and of course, happy birthday. I hope 305 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: it was a good one. And here's a little extra 306 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: gift to keep it going right. Absolutely, she turned thirteen yesterday, 307 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: So there you going all right? 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Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back, Patrick nose Walker, 359 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us? Is this the 360 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: toughest test for Cooper Rush to this point in the season, Isaiah, 361 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: When you look at the film and you see what 362 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna bring to the table. I mean, MPa, 363 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: Bay was tough, Cincinnati was good on the defensive side 364 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: of the ball. Then you had New York and Washington. 365 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Washington had hits own challenges. Where where does the Rams 366 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: defensive unit stand in terms of their challenge level? The 367 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Cooper rush and this Cowboys offense. Good question, Kyle. I'm 368 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: not sure if I really know. I think last week 369 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: was a pretty good test for him in this offense 370 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: and this attirety. I think in terms of dominant players 371 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: at each level, this is probably the best test that 372 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: he's had yet. I think last week the defensive line 373 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: and that front seven was pretty stout. Obviously the defensive 374 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: line but with the Bama Boys or solid. But now 375 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: you're getting into dominant players at every single level that 376 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily playing well collectively, but you know that they can. 377 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: You hope that they don't figure it out against you. 378 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: But you have undoubtedly the best defensive linemen in the 379 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: game right now, or arguably one of the best ever. 380 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Donald. You go to the next level, 381 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: you have a little bit older Bobby Wagner, but he 382 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: still is smart, savvy, strong, Bobby Wagner and then you 383 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: go obviously to the cornerback to the secondary, and you 384 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: have Jalen Ramsey, who is still Jalen Ramsey. And it's 385 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: not somebody that you want to piss off because he's 386 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: if he's not having a good game defensively in terms 387 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: of in terms of being a defensive back and knocking 388 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: balls down and sticking with the receivers, and he's probably 389 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna be tackling well or vice versa. And if you 390 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: get him on the on a good day, he's gonna 391 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: be doing both pretty pretty well. So MS in terms 392 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: of competitors, like peer competitors. Last week we had questions, 393 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: are the Bama bros? Are they friends again? Are they 394 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: playing together? Like? Are they cool today? Are they not? 395 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: You know, this is a defense that plays together. They 396 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: like to play together, like to have fun, and they 397 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: know that they're the best at what they do. So 398 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't I don't. I don't know if 399 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be a collective collectively or defense, but 400 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: they definitely have dudes. You know that he has to 401 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: account for, especially in the box. And then if you 402 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: want to throw it out there, you better know who 403 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: to wear the heck, number five's at I think it. 404 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the biggest test. I don't 405 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: think it's in, you know, an unpassable test, but it's 406 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: definitely going to be the biggest test first and foremost. 407 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald. I mean, like, you 408 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: gotta account for him, he can rent games. But walking 409 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: it back from there, like he said, you have to 410 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: account for the other superstars. You got a future Hall 411 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: of Famer and Bobby Wagner. He seems a bit miffed 412 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: at the moment. Yeah, right, And then you have Jalen Ramsey. Now, 413 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: what I will say about Jalen Ramsey is he's kind 414 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: of been up and down this season in that I 415 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: still believe he's Jalen Ramsey. But at the same time, 416 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: you've seen him get absolutely smoked in coverage for big 417 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: yardage in big games. But then he bounced back. But 418 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: then you saw what happened when he was tasked with 419 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: making the open field tackle on De bos Sambue. He 420 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, not today, right, so we'll see. I mean, 421 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: he typically bounces back pretty well when he gets smithed, 422 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: so this would be a bounce back game for Jalen Ramsey. 423 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: But I think the Cowboys can take advantage of in 424 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: Cooper or specifically, he can take advantage of the fact 425 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: that we talked about the offensive line for the Rams 426 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: having some depth issues, Well now they have depth issues 427 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: at safety as well. Jordan Fuller hamstring injury out potentially 428 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: two to four weeks, most certainly out for this game. 429 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: And for those that would look at the depth chart 430 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: and they say, oh, well, Jordan Fuller he's a backup, 431 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: will not necessarily because since they've been having depth issues there. 432 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: I think he played in greater than fifty percent of 433 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: the snaps in Week three, almost eighty percent of the 434 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: snaps in Week four, So those are starter numbers for 435 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: the most part. So for the most part, they've kind 436 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: of lost a starting safety and Jalen Ramsey struggling or 437 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: at least having an up and down season. Now he's 438 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: going to start questioning the guys behind him because a 439 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: large part of Jalen Ramsey's game, a large part of 440 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: a lot of elite cornerbacks game is the guy is 441 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: behind them playing will if I trust as a defensive back, 442 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: if I trust that the guys behind me are going 443 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: to get my back. If I take this risk or 444 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: jump this route, whatever the case, maybe then I'll play 445 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: more aggressively. If I don't trust that, I'm going to 446 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: play more conservatively, and that's going to kind of delete, 447 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: potentially delete the takeaway aspect of my game. So I 448 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: think Cooper Rush can take advantage of that. That's especially 449 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: with Michael Galliban. Yeah for sure, yeah, yeah, before we 450 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: get the receivers, I would look at the answer. Yes, 451 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: I think so because of Aaron Donald, I'm with NOC 452 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: and I'm with Isaiah in terms of every level, They've 453 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: got a guy that is very, very dangerous and complete player. 454 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner comes to mind. Obviously, j Ramsey comes to mind. 455 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: So I think with Donald, it's not just the obvious, 456 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: it's that he lines up in different spots. You have 457 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: to identify him every player. You don't know where he's 458 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: going to be, and he can absolutely wreck the game. 459 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: He's got the most tackles for loss of any player, 460 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: and it's not even close since he came into the league. 461 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: The Cowboys had six six negative runs last week against 462 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: a really good defensive front. This is a better defensive 463 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: front overall, in large part because he is so special, 464 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer and Gains frees him up too. Yeah, 465 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: that's yeah, fam I know. But seriously, in all actually 466 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: out of he does a heck up a job for them, 467 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: giving Aaron Donald those one on one opportunities because you 468 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: can't just single Gains up either. No, no, and Les 469 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: von Miller's not back there too, so well that's a positive. 470 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: It helps it. He's in Buffalo. But Robinson's good obviously, 471 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd is good. And the intangible part of it 472 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: for me is like he is such a leader, Like 473 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: you thought about what he did the last drive of 474 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and what you talked about yesterday Kyle, 475 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: how they've never had what a negative or a never 476 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: had a McVeigh losing record at any point after Week two, 477 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: they're gonna be motivated not to lose this football game, 478 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: especially at home too, right, So, and he's going to 479 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: be at the forefront of that. So yeah, I think 480 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: it's the toughest test. Yeah, we've talked about it before. 481 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the first time I really remember mentioning it 482 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: was the Chargers game in Week two of last year 483 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: where you had guys at every level and that was 484 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: they had like Kenneth Murray and then Derwin James and 485 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: of course Bosa up front. Here, it's guys at every level. 486 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: Outside of that, they've got some sprinkled role guys like 487 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: a Floyd and the the gains that kind of helped those 488 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: big time stars have an opportunity to be successful. I 489 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: think Ramsey's had a good season to this point. He's 490 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: had his ups and his downs, but so does every 491 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: corner in the NFL. Trayvon Diggs has got his ups 492 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: and downs, and yet and he's still got two picks. 493 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: He's playing better than I think fundamentally than he did 494 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: last year when he had eleven picks. So I think 495 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: Ramsey's still Ramsey and he's going to be really good. 496 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: What is the matchup going to look like, though, Rob 497 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: When you look at Michael Gallop and Ceedee Lamb, who 498 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: are they gonna face, where are they gonna be and 499 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: how can they have some success against Ramsey in that 500 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: secondary if they are going to test it over the 501 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: top and try and push that safety depth a little 502 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: bit Like Patrick was just talking about, is that Michael 503 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Gallup opened things up or is that a Cede Lamb 504 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: under the underneath and then yards after the catch. I'm 505 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: curious how much they can go over the top just 506 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna have to get the ball 507 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: off fast. I mean, but but yeah, I think what 508 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: you just said, I mean, I think Gallup creates that 509 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: opportunities for him, especially if they can get some something 510 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: going in the run game. That's what the one thing 511 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: they were able to do was be persistent with the 512 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: run and then create some things over the top against Washington. 513 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: So and I'm curious to see if Gallup kind of 514 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: takes another step like this week. He talked about how 515 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: he felt pretty good after the game, and I wonder 516 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: what that does just internally for his confidence in this 517 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: game as well. I think his confidence is is pretty 518 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: up there after what he was able to do for 519 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It was high on Sunday, wasn't It was high, 520 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: and he felt much better mentally going in. He's already felt, 521 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, very well physically, but you know, to get 522 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: that touchdown and then to impact the game with those 523 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: two downfield penalties called against the Commanders that helped extend 524 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys drives. And I'm I kind of had a one 525 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: off walking conversation with Michael Gallup before the lock of 526 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: opened up yesterday as they were coming off the practice field, 527 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: and just jokingly I was like, you know, hey, you 528 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: feel like a hundred yards on Sunday? He was like, absolutely, 529 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: I would have had on last week if they weren't 530 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: holding me all the time. See, there we go, Michael. 531 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: See that that's the kind of mentality that Gallup is 532 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: walking into. He feels like he's starting to feel again 533 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: like he is Michael Gallup, that they can't stop him, 534 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: that they have to hold him to keep him from 535 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: getting the one hundred yard games, etcetera, etcetera. So the 536 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: swagger is if it's not entirely back, let's say ninety 537 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: eight percent back, and then now you're looking at again, 538 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: Jordan Fuller is gonna miss. So they have some safety issues. 539 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: But you got Ceedee Lamb, and you don't know if 540 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: Jalen's gonna be asked to shadow either one of them. 541 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: But let's say he's asked to shadow Ceedee Lamb. Right, 542 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: Troy Hill, who is a capable corner, but is he 543 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: capable of keeping Michael Gallup from breaking the game open? 544 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: Noah Brown will seemingly will play. He was a full 545 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: participant in practice. We need to make sure that fans 546 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: know that as well, which is key. So that opens 547 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: it up as a third receiver. Do the Rams have 548 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: the personnel because we know Ramsey, you know he can 549 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: be Ramsey. Troy Hill is capable, but the question is 550 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: can he hang with a confident and fully healthy Michael Gallop. 551 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: But then it trickles down to Noah Brown as well. 552 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: This could be a big game for Noah Brown simply 553 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: because the Rams are running out of horses when you 554 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: start matching up personnel for personnel. So again, huge test, 555 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: biggest test of the season thus far for Cooper Rushi 556 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: if you ask me, but you know the Ram secondary 557 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: it can be had. How do they get after him? 558 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: They have to beat him in zone. I don't think 559 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: that the Rams aren't playing much man to man right now. 560 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: They're playing a lot of zone. So you know, to 561 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: the point of rob p you got to get the 562 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: ball out and you're going to be very strategic as 563 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: far as identifying what zone they're in, finding the holes 564 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: in his zone, and making sure that you're not sitting 565 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: on your back leg as Cooper Rush trying to wait 566 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: for guys to get open. You're gonna have to get 567 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: to those spots relatively quickly, because, as you mentioned, Aaron Donald, 568 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: correct the game, those guys can't there. They're gonna be 569 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: at home, their backs against the wall. They're dangerous. Yeah, 570 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: it's it's just what it is. What it is. You're 571 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: not talking about a team that's that was good a 572 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. These guys are trying to remember 573 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: who the heck they were last year and it wasn't 574 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: that dog so long ago. I mean, these guys were, 575 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: these guys earned the ring with seven eight seven months ago, 576 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, eight months ago. So they're just there. They 577 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: were trying to remember who they were, get that spark back, 578 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: and it takes a couple of plays. It takes a 579 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: couple of plays to get your swag back. That's all 580 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: it takes in the league. And a lot of guys 581 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: are trying to find that right now. You know, Michael 582 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: Gallup found that last week. He was like, Okay, oh 583 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: I got my swack. Cool. You saw a little shake 584 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: the shoulders a little bit. Okay, I'm back. You know 585 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: that's all he needed. He needed that play, He needed 586 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: that touchdown and say okay, I'm back now. He feels confident. 587 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: Same thing with Aaron Donald the rest of these boys. 588 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: These guys go out there and you let them make 589 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: a couple of plays and I'm like, Okay, yeah, they're 590 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: gonna look at each other, but yeah, yeah, yeah, we 591 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: still got that thing, you know, So you don't you 592 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: try your best not to allow them to get that. 593 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: But I think Dallas is gonna face a ton of 594 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: zone and they're gonna allow Aaron Donald and Employed and 595 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: these boys to try to try to go take advantage 596 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: of some of these guys on the offensive front, and 597 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 1: the offense line's gonna have to stand up strung too 598 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: to allow Cooper Rush to get the football down the 599 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: field and be able to push it a little bit. 600 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that on the other side 601 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: of the break. 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It's a marketing scheme. 647 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for greasing this up beam reappreciate. Yeah, yeah, it's great. 648 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: It's a marketing scheme and I don't really love giving 649 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: attention to it, but I can't help but mention the 650 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: whole first part of that just reminded me of what 651 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: the Smile movie can do with sporting events. Crossed Away 652 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: we talked about. Yeah, that like horror movie or whatever's 653 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: coming out. I don't even want to pup it because 654 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: it's marketing and they're just we're falling into their hands. Mark. 655 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: That's what that reminded me of. It's probably trash, but 656 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: the marketing is fantas fantastic. That's the last time you 657 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: saw a good horror of him, Like like, this is 658 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: no Seas wheelhouse right here. Yeah, so let's don't open that, 659 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: don't open this Pandor's bucks. We don't have enough time. 660 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: I know. I don't like horror movies. So all funny 661 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: they made me laugh. That's exactly why. Because I don't 662 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: take it seriously. I start think it's hilarious. Okay, well 663 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: that's a good start. Because Freddy is the goat. There's 664 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: a couple of them that are that are really good. 665 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: There's a couple of them that are like, oh my gosh, 666 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: actually I felt scared. But the other times it's like 667 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: what are we doing? Are we? Are we sectioning this 668 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: off by generation? Though, because are much more like trash? 669 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: What is this? But when you start talking about the 670 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: legends like the Freddy and I didn't want to go 671 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: to Foorhees and and the original Child's Play not remakes 672 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: where he has bluetooth enabled, Yeah, we're gonna have to 673 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: segment it by generation, but also by movie. I mean, 674 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a case by case because there's some 675 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: good new ones too. I mean a little bit. I 676 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: can point out something that you guys probably haven't really 677 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: heard of that have you up all night? We're back 678 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: in stuff? Yeah, no, thank you were this year in conto? 679 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: Are we gonna do it? Are we gonna do it? 680 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: I know he's game. Do you know Robbie's let's freaking 681 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: go Beamer. Let's go Beamer. We didn't get that last year, Beamer. 682 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Are you in for what a haunted house? Yea go 683 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: let freaking let's go five for five. That's gonna be 684 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: some great Twitter content about last year. I got freaking 685 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: shot down and now I got here freaking run the 686 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: table I'm for all of that horror movies, haunted houses. 687 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Hecamo was not into it last year at all, and 688 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: you guys went. I was ready to go. I told 689 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: you I would go with you. Let's go, man gotch 690 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: We're gonna hit it up. We're gonna make it happen. 691 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: Talking cowboys haunted house style. If you want to join us, 692 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: just we had them accord this. Somebody you want to 693 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: have a haunted house? Yeah there, it better make me 694 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: be talked to, talk to leg how we can get 695 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: this on fields. I get so disappointed when haunted houses 696 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: don't don't actually have you ever swung on somebody in 697 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: the hot house and now I haven't done that. It 698 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: was sared up. I'm squared up. I'm squared touch a 699 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: fair game exactly. Yeah, don't you sneak up like you 700 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: can sneak up all me. Don't touch me. There's there's 701 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: one in particular, that haunted house in New Orleans. UM 702 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: that's getting quite literally at nothing like the real cemetery 703 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: and some pop. You have to sign waivers, you have 704 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: to sign a way see the best recommend The best 705 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: one I've done was in London. We did the London 706 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: Game when I was playing for New England and I 707 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: went with Merryweather and will hide energy. Oh dude, we 708 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: we almost we got to fight for that. Actors across 709 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: the line. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Mary you remember you 710 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: remember Brandon Merryweather safety. Yeah, somebody reached over and touched him, 711 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: like from the top, but the gate he two pieced 712 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: them in a face and the rest of the time 713 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: we went through the hot house. You're like, don't get us. 714 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: I gave him the two pieces of the biscuits. Man. Okay, well, 715 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: let's October six about this. We got we got a 716 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: whole money. Let's talk about it all right. Offensive line 717 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: confidence meter right now, Patrick Walker, where is your confidence 718 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: meter for the Cowboys offensive front, especially going up against 719 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: the Ramps. Are we're scaling one to ten? Yeah? Um oh, 720 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: well that's two different things, confidence no no versus confidence 721 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: confidence in them period, confidence in them period. With Jason 722 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: Peters in the mix, um, Tyler Smith playing like he's 723 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: playing questions and Tyler, yeah, I'd say solid, solid eight, 724 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: sound like you wanted to say seven. I was going 725 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: to say seven. I gave him me, I gave him 726 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: extra credit. I gave him because Tyler is a rookie. 727 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: He's playing out of his mind. And when Jason Peters 728 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: looks like he's on to be ramping up to you know, 729 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: start left guard here soon hopefully. Um now we got 730 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: six more snaps right right, second, got one and a 731 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: half times more snaps, seven snaps to perspective. But the now, 732 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: the second part of this is my confidence in them 733 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: going against Aaron Donald and those guys. Okay, well, then 734 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: it drops down to a six, right, and you drop 735 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: down to a six because Aaron Donald is Aaron Donald. 736 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: We talked about Leonard Floyd and some of these other guys, 737 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: and and my question mark is not on Tyler Smith. 738 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: He still has some some some things to prove, but 739 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: he's proven enough for me to be confident in him. 740 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: Who's making your scale drop? McGovern? Okay, so you think 741 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald gonna line up against mcgaun. No, No, I 742 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: think that if McGovern starts, because McGovern was an unexpected 743 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: appearance last week, and he's coming he like McCarthy said 744 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: he is. He did kind of play like he was 745 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: coming off of a high Engle's brain. He didn't have 746 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: his anchor set. And so if the Cowboys are going 747 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: to start a McGovern again this week and we'll find out. 748 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: But if that's the case, then is going to target that. 749 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: So that's you a more specific question. Yeah, what's your 750 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: confidence meter with Aaron Donald versus Zach Martin? Zach Zach. 751 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's the unstoppable force versus the immovable object. 752 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm taking the immovable object in Zach Martin. Is that 753 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: a ten? That's in Zach Martin? Nine point eight? Nine 754 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: point because Aaron is still arran, So I'm not gonna Yeah, 755 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: I'd probably say an eight because I'm not gonna I'm 756 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: not gonna disrespect everything like that. But Zach is Zach. 757 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: That is quite literally like, so Zach's winning seven out 758 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 1: of ten, eight out of ten to your Yeah, sure, yeah, 759 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: I would say that. I'll stand down that hill because 760 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: if after the game it turns out that's not the case, 761 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: I still wouldn't regret it because it's Zach Martin and 762 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: I know that that's Aaron freaking Donald again, immovable object, 763 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: unstoppable for something has to give. Do you think Zach 764 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: Martin wouldn't win eight up ten back? I think about it. 765 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: When you look at it, we're talking about perspective. Aaron 766 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: Donald greatest defensi alignment ever. He's up there. He's conversation 767 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: that Martin greatest office alignment ever. He's not named Larry. 768 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I 769 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: know that. I'm saying, you look at the best, not 770 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: arguing the best defensive alignment ever. Versus are a really 771 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: good offensive linement. Yeah, two futures good? Okay, But we 772 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: can't let it. But you can't, are you? Okay? Give 773 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: it outside of Larry Allen. I could argue that it 774 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: would be Zach. I just can't give it to him. 775 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: Eight out of twas not confidence. I don't know if 776 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm that high on it. I can't give me really 777 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: like I mean, I'm gonna give him fifty five. You 778 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: call it. You call it a stalemate. I call it 779 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: a stalemate. That scarce Aaron Donald wins Zac Martin Winson. 780 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: That's the history of their matchups. So to me, anytime 781 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 1: you play Aaron Donald, it's a coin flip no matter 782 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: who it is. But say five to fifty, I'm not 783 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm not gonna go. I'm gonna go higher 784 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: than five because it's Zach. But it's I don't I 785 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: don't have great confidence against anybody against Aaron Donald on 786 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: a consistent basis, because he's too dangerous. How can you 787 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: give Zack Zac is the only one I had said, 788 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: you go higher than five. I don't go five, No, five. Yeah, 789 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: Zach is the only one. I have a ton of confidence. 790 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: And I have a ton of confidence in them too. 791 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: But it's still Aaron Donald, right, That's why I didn't 792 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: say a ten, but I give but it's a five again, 793 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald against Zach Martin. Just but that's the problem 794 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: is though that he's not gonna be he's They're gonna 795 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: move him there, gonna put him on that McGovern is 796 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: the starter. Then they're going to target McGovern and be 797 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: at ish. And that's why I'm hoping that Jason Peters 798 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: is ramped up fully enough to the point where he 799 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: can start this game, because now you're talking about a 800 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: Hall of famer there versus a Hall of famer agree 801 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: no matter what side he wants to go too, he 802 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: has to face somebody real, right, no doubt. When we 803 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: talked about that, I don't crazy remember that. Yeah, somebody 804 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: said that early on. So first off, I think that's 805 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: a great question. Who do you think wins more battles, 806 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: give us send it to us on Twitter. I mean 807 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: at I am stand back at Phillips that voice of 808 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: the star at Kyle underscore Yeoman's tap into the conversation 809 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: because I'm really interested in what you guys think there too, 810 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: because we're we have confidence in that Zack Martin. That's 811 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: not the confidence meter, that's not the kicker. It's just 812 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: how good Aaron Donald is. So how do you scheme 813 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: around him? A way to scheme around him. It's almost 814 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: like he decides when he wants to make a play. 815 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: He says like, yeah, okay, this about that, right? You 816 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: know what you get the I get that sense. You know. 817 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: It's not to say somebody's not playing as hard as 818 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: they can. But it's like there's some places where he's 819 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I'm gonna do this. That's my responsibility. 820 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: And there's other places he's like, oh, we need to 821 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: play all right here? I am you can't really, it's 822 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: just and what'll we'll see it in film room. And 823 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: it's just like sometimes there's plays that you get him 824 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: to go backside on a play and you wall him 825 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: off and you're like, oh, I did my job as 826 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: office in linement. I made him go backside and he's like, 827 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: not so fast, my friend, swerve on you, and he 828 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: just freaking makes a tackle or he runs down the 829 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: backside of the line. If you think you had him 830 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: on the backside, and he still grabs ankles of your 831 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: of your running back. He just walks back to the huddle. Nobody. 832 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't a big hit, wasn't anything like that, but 833 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: he still impacted that play in a tremendous way. And 834 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: then you have the big plays where it's just like, 835 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, why don't he just do that to 836 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: that guy? He just disrespected him. He always going to 837 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: have those. Yeah, he's dangerous. He's a beast. And I 838 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of people that are homers and 839 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: big time and I get it. Rep your team, wrap 840 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys all that. But I'm saying, but like, come 841 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: on now, yeah, let's let's be realistic about what you're 842 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: what's going what you're about to deal with here, Which 843 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: is what my answer to that is. You can't scheme 844 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: to stop Aaron Donald. It's not a thing a moment. 845 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: You can scheme to slow him down, can you? Yes, 846 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: you can, because if you if you start enacting, if 847 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: you can be effective at burning the edge edges on 848 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: your runs, if you can be effective at some quick 849 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: bubbles and things like that, which you can then treat 850 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: us like quasi you know, run plays and things like that, 851 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: then you're now having him. You're you're kind of giving 852 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: up the middle because you're like, okay, we kind of 853 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 1: we're letting you in so we can attack these edges. 854 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: And he basically into it. Listen, but eventually in certain 855 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: sets he does, you're right. But then what my point 856 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: is that's going to slow him down from pinning his 857 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: ears back to going after rush. And then that starts 858 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: to impact itself over and over again in the game, 859 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: and it builds. So now Aaron Donald bubble quick out, 860 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: bubble edgeburn, edge burn and run plays wise, sooner or 861 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: later he starts to say, okay, well, they're not just 862 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna let me just tee off on this guy, so 863 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a little bit laterally more okay, Well, 864 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: now that he's playing a little bit laterly, he's cheating 865 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: laterally run up the middle. And then now he's like, 866 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: oh okay, I'm ready, they're running up the middle. I'm 867 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna get back in here three tech and I'm ready 868 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: to go and then burn it again. You just sounding him, 869 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: but right, of course it sounds good. This is how 870 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: you scheme to do it. You can't scheme to stop him, 871 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: but you can scheme to keep him off balance. And 872 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: then it comes to the execution. Now, once you have 873 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 1: him off balance, if you can get him off balance, 874 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: now you have to make sure you execute and create 875 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: these lanes and take advantage of it and then set 876 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: up for the downfield playing things. I would agree if 877 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: he stayed in one spot, If you stayed in one spot, 878 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: I would agree with you. But the fact is, every 879 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: time you break the huddle with your scheme to go 880 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: against him, right, you're in your head. This play is 881 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: for him playing at a defensive end. All right, boom, 882 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: break the huddle. Crap, he's at tackle. You know what 883 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Our crap, he's backside. So that's what I'm saying, 884 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: like you can't. That goes to Cooper Rush as far 885 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: as how much freedom does Coop How much freedom does 886 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush have to recognize pre snap and say, okay, 887 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: well we're going to scheme him going into the game 888 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: as the three or the nose or whatever. But they 889 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: came out of the huddle with him at the five. 890 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: How much freedom does Cooper Rush have to say you okay, 891 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: check out of this. They say that he's got about this. 892 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the same amount as Dak, 893 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 1: but a considerable amount. And that's one thing the forty 894 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: nine ers talked about after the game on Monday night 895 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: was they would change pre snap if they see him better, 896 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: if I him first, and then maybe we're going a 897 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: different direction, so you're not identifying the safe, you're identifying 898 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Duddle, which goes back to yes, this is the 899 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: biggest test for Cooper Rushi of the season. Yeah, I 900 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: mean I agree with that. I think it is. And 901 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: to this point, this is the toughest test, maybe the 902 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: toughest test of his starting career. I mean, going even 903 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: more so than that Minnesota defense last year. This is 904 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: the test Rush. I'll worry about him this game. Cooper Cooper, 905 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: especially coming off of the two non interceptions of last week, 906 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: we saw what the interior defensive rush did to him 907 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: and his focus last week and his ability to deliver 908 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: good balls. He delivered some good balls, but he had 909 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,439 Speaker 1: some Aaron throws as well, because he had happy feet. 910 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: He would We talked about it in there. He was sitting, 911 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: he was he was throwing off his back leg. He 912 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 1: wasn't transferring his right after the pick, absolutely right, both 913 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: off his back foot and absolutely and that's because of 914 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: the internal pressure from the Bamber boys. Okay, so now 915 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,479 Speaker 1: you have Aaron Dons, where's his focus? Is he gonna 916 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: be looking at the defensive liners' gonna be looking at 917 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: the secondary of reading coverages. That's what I worry about 918 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush. I want to dive deeper into that. Tomorrow, 919 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 1: I think say it with the chess Friday is gonna 920 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: be a whole lot of fun. You know, I gotta 921 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: do some pushing. We gotta do. Yeah, you gotta gets 922 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: some in there. Man. Uh, we've got predictions tomorrow. You 923 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: can give us a call, be a part of the 924 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: fan pick him segment eight eight eight, five, five two 925 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: two nine seven. We'll give you your matchups. We'll tell 926 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: you how you can win some money on DraftKings. We've 927 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: got a whole big mess of stuff tomorrow. Get in 928 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: there and get ready and tweak to us at all 929 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 1: of us, which hunt of house we should go to Yeah, yeah, 930 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: let us know what haunted house and make sure it's 931 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: fourgeois about my horror and haunted. So please make sure 932 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: it's good because I'm just a nitpicked and I need 933 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: to be scare me. Please, there we go. If I 934 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: want to go to a comedy show, I'll go to 935 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: a comedy show. I paid challenges out there scare me. 936 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: I didn't say that. There's a lot of talking on 937 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: everybody's shoulders. Yeah, yeah, that's go light on me. That's 938 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: a good way to end this show. Gentlemen, That first 939 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: team for Phillips, for Isaiah stand Bad Patrick, no Sawalker. 940 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yemen saying so long, special thanks to our 941 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: friends in Black Rifle Coffee Company. We'll see tomorrow on 942 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 943 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.