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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's

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Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles, and only

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Speaker 1: the truth lives here. Pack twelve Apostles, Apostles. I'm George Rice. There,

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Speaker 1: he's Ralph Amson, and this is the Pack twelve Apostles.

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Speaker 1: We had another great week of college football, another great

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Speaker 1: week of games. The Pack twelve acts. He had some

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Speaker 1: and that's where we will start. Ralph. Does the Pac

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Speaker 1: twelve have a path to the playoff. That's a tough question.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough question because right now, Oregon is the

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Speaker 1: one team, Alabama, Right, and they're not going to pass

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Speaker 1: Alabama unless Georgia beats Alabama in the UH in the

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Speaker 1: SEC Championship, Right, But all things being equal, if they

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Speaker 1: But that means Georgia and Alabama are getting back in

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Speaker 1: they get to the Pack to the SEC Championship, one

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Speaker 1: like I don't even know if Clemson actually Clemson going

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Speaker 1: that case, because Clemson they don't look that good right

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Speaker 1: right right now. And I got to see them in

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Speaker 1: this weekend. They've had a decently tough schedule and they've

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Speaker 1: hung on in a lot of games. But eventually, you

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Speaker 1: and that that's that's kind of where they're at right now. Um.

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Speaker 1: The weird thing about the way that it's set up

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Speaker 1: take is for Tennessee to beat Georgia and then not lose.

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Speaker 1: I guess, well, I guess that would have whoever wins

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Speaker 1: would mean, So then let me let me rethink it.

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Speaker 1: It would be Georgia beating Tennessee and Alabama. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: So Michigan played Colorado State, Hawaii and Yukon in the

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Speaker 1: non conference and you're probably wondering, Okay, what does that

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Speaker 1: Yes they are. I'm not doubt. I'm not. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with you that the Big ten's not. Yes,

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Speaker 1: If you put this Illinois defense, Illinois defense on on U. C.

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Speaker 1: going to get fifty points. Word on them. No, they're not. Okay,

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Speaker 1: really good? Right? Yeah? They got points hung on them

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Speaker 1: six points hung on them this week. Right, How your

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Speaker 1: offense runs is part of how your defense plays. Points.

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Speaker 1: So so now you're caping for a bunch of three

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Speaker 1: What is the best offense that they that they've played?

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Speaker 1: Zach charbon, At Dorrian Thompson, Robinson um Caris huh oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kate Kelley Williams and Michael Pennocks Jr. But I think

427
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Speaker 1: that you have to x my Michael Pennocks Jr. Out

428
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: only because right now, because they have too many losses. Yeah,

429
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Speaker 1: I mean, but you you, I think you also have

430
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Speaker 1: to balance like because you're I guess you're right. Because

431
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: they did this to Washington State for so long, the

432
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: expectation was that their quarterback was gonna put up cartoon

433
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: numbers and so unless they were. Um, yeah, so I

434
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Speaker 1: guess I understand that systems oriented. It feels I mean

435
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: even though so I'm not trying to take anything away

436
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: from him, but but I'm saying that that that, like you,

437
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Speaker 1: that's a good example that Washington state that the numbers

438
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: feel more system oriented than actual you know, like damn,

439
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: this dude's out here just you know, lightening it, lightening

440
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: it up. Yea, but he is way out ahead in

441
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: in yards and like system but the completion percentage of

442
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Speaker 1: touchdowns and I don't think anybody would have thought of

443
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Speaker 1: Michael Panics is this type of system no quarterback. It's

444
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna makes making Galen de Bor super attractive guy to

445
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: go play for because he can point to Michael Panics's

446
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: time in Indiana and say, like, look at look at

447
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: this athlete who is now a quarter But Michael Panics

448
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: like works the pocket. He he is a very good

449
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: or back and I think you'll have six mess at

450
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: the next level. Um, it's like it's it's like he's

451
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: got I don't know, I don't I don't want to

452
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: compare him to your boy, but he has like left

453
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: which is body but like the yes, but like the

454
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: broad shoulders. Um, do you know who he reminds me of?

455
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Joey Harrington? He has the job. The deep ball is

456
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: the Joey Harrington deep ball. It's like kind of floats,

457
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: kind of slow, like slow spiral and just drops into

458
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Speaker 1: a bucket. Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think

459
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: we've even made that comparison before on this show. But

460
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Speaker 1: the two to four touchdown interception ratio, the yards passed

461
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: in the game sixty eight, you know, I think he

462
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's it, but I think he deserves

463
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Speaker 1: to probably be in the conversation. Yeah. Um, And can

464
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Speaker 1: I give some credit to a dude that I told

465
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: everybody that this dude is phenomenal, and that is Bucky Irving,

466
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: the running back from he looked Good, Bro. The dude

467
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: is the second best back in the pack twelve because

468
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: it's Zach Charbon a number one. He's the second best back.

469
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Speaker 1: And it ain't close. I don't know if it's not.

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Speaker 1: I I he's He's awesome. He's awesome. And I think

471
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Speaker 1: the one thing that Kenny Dillingham does really well is

472
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Speaker 1: make sure that he's using his players to his strength.

473
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: The other thing Kenny will dealing him does really well.

474
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: Is gives outlets for um has to bail on a

475
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: play like having people just out by the sidelines first

476
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: a crucial first down, just like that throwing the ball

477
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Speaker 1: to Bucky Irving, he looked like he was going to

478
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Speaker 1: go scramble and then he was like nope, all right,

479
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: and he dumped it off and and bo Nix can run.

480
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 1: But he can run like Buck youring can run. So

481
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Speaker 1: that's a guy who's you know, want you want the

482
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: ball in his hands Oregon looks good. Dude. I was wrong. Uh,

483
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: I was wrong because I I don't know, it's weird.

484
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: It was they're just better than U c l A.

485
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Speaker 1: Because again, I'm a point to the fact that defensively,

486
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: there weren't too many times and I know that I

487
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: listened to some other podcasts are like, not only is

488
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: U c l A not playing anybody, their defense is garbage,

489
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: but like the numbers weren't showing that that their defenses garbage.

490
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Speaker 1: There they don't have the most talented players on Earth,

491
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Speaker 1: but they've been coached well, they've been in position, they

492
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Speaker 1: made plays. I just thought they got out talented. It

493
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: kind of looked not on the scoreboard. But it kind

494
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: of looked like Oregon Georgia at the beginning of the season,

495
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, you could point to all these

496
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Speaker 1: things Oregon did well, and then you look at the

497
00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: scoreboard and you're like, jeez, exactly exactly, um And and

498
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who were trying to poop

499
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Speaker 1: poo you say, l A. After this game, I was like,

500
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: you don't. Can't. You can't. You can't poop poo the

501
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: loser of Alabama tennis Tennessee. You can't poop poo the

502
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, come on, bro, like

503
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: stop it. And I think and voters, we still have

504
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: four teams in the top fourteen, and I think that

505
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: voters are respecting what the Pack twelve has been up to. YEP,

506
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. Um. Now onto the next game.

507
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: We had Oregon State playing against Colorado and it was

508
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: forty two to nine in Oregon State is Bowl eligible

509
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: at six and two. Yes, five teams are Bowl eligible

510
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: in the Pack twelve, with Utah having the ability to

511
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: get there if they beat Washington State this week. I

512
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: think who would have thought, you know, eight weeks in

513
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: six Bowl vigible teams potentially, Um, that's huge. But I

514
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: had like a note that I made that because we

515
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: had some people criticize us saying that like we made

516
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: it all about Cow's bad decision making and didn't give

517
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: any credit to Colorado for their energy that they played

518
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: with or there um the change defensively in like schemes

519
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: that might have interrupted some of the stuff that cal

520
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: was trying to do. And I was like, you know what,

521
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: that is fair, and I'm gonna make a note to

522
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: bring that up on this week's podcast. And then Colorado

523
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 1: went out and Colorado harder than they've ever Colorado. And

524
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: now I don't really want to say any So now

525
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: you don't know what to say, right because if that

526
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: energy was really there, then then any point in time

527
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: this game would have looked competitive and it just did not. Yeah,

528
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: what we did talk on the phone though, do you

529
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: wanna let people know Jack Letto's nickname? Oh my gosh,

530
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: I forgot his nick nickname? Um because he's a linebacker, quarterback,

531
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: goal line, fullback, running back, tight end. Oh my god,

532
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: I forgot what what was it? Miles Pepperjack. Oh, yes,

533
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: Miles Pepperjack because it's like Miles Jack where he was

534
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: doing everything, but he's not my He's pepper Jack. But

535
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: the whitest of cheese is still spicy. Yes, it's it's

536
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: still spicy, but it's super white. Miles Pepperjack, love it,

537
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: Jack Coletto A Miles Pepperjack. Is there anything that you

538
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: saw in this game that made you think, like, uh,

539
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Speaker 1: that Oregon State's not going to make the switch back

540
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: at quarterback, because that's my that's my question. Now you

541
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: have your backroom. I'm not switching back to Chance for

542
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: interception against U C. L A New Lovelin. I'm just

543
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm just not And because Go Go Branson is playing

544
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: well enough at this point in time that it feels

545
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: it would feel like Chance. You don't look at Chance

546
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: Nolan and you're like, oh my god, he's so much

547
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: better than than than gold Brandson. So I think I

548
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: think the upside is there, But like god, Branson has

549
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: a hundred past attempts this year and only three picks. Yeah,

550
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: Chance Nolan had a hundred picks in three pass attempts.

551
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: So I mean, like Chance, Chance Nolan's talent is better, right, Yeah,

552
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: but it's clear that I mean, they're just winning. So

553
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: what do you so how do you switch back right there? Three?

554
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: And oh you can't switch back interception? They quit getting

555
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: him sacked after that Stanford game has only been hit twice. UM.

556
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: So that's the point is that if I'm not switching back,

557
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: but I'm not committing to him being my my guy though,

558
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. Yeah, I do wonder what

559
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: he's until. Like I'll be like, chance, look, you're you're

560
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: technically still my starting quarterback, but we're just gonna ride

561
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: this for right for for right now. First time he

562
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: has two picks and a I have and wearing a

563
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: dog fight. You're back in there, buddy. I'm letting you

564
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: know that situation. I don't know if they'll let him

565
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: throw enough to uh to even get to that point.

566
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: But holy cow, are they running the ball well outside

567
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: of Jack and seventy yards versus Colorado. Not that that

568
00:35:51,920 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: is like now, oh my gosh, yeah, and it's oh man,

569
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: they have four guys that can do damage, uh in

570
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: the running game because Jack Coleto's goal line presence. He's

571
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: got six touchdowns. But between their other three running backs,

572
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about over five yards to carry on average. UM.

573
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: None of them are burners breaking huge runs and they've

574
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: got eleven touchdowns combined to They're just this is turning

575
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: out to be the most Oregon State of Oregon State seasons,

576
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: and UM, it's cool to see. It's it's really cool

577
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: to see. I do wonder, uh, sitting at six and two,

578
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: if they have what it takes to UM go into

579
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: that final game of the season nine and two, because

580
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: that would be the best way for Oregon to prove

581
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: that they're deserving of a UM of a spot in

582
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff would be to have you know,

583
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: a Washington Oregon State Pack twelve champion and chip run

584
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: of three games. UM. On the back end, I think

585
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: if Oregon State can run the table until they get

586
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: to Oregon, boy oh boy, boy oh boy, that would

587
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: that would set Oregon up in such a good spot. Yeah,

588
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: for because because at that point in time, they would

589
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: for sure be a top fifteen team. I mean at

590
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: I mean, they do have to play at Washington in

591
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: two weeks, but they get two weeks to prepare and

592
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: Washington defensive garbage and the Cow and the Arizona State

593
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: game are both manageable. Very the Cow game they're probably

594
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: winning UM and the Arizona State game. Like, the only

595
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: thing going against Oregon State right now is that it's

596
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: in Tempe. But they're the far superior team at this point.

597
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: So listen, big kudos to Jonathan Smith. Everything that he's

598
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: doing there, the fact that he's doing this without a

599
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: top tier quarterback. He's like a witch bro like, like

600
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: it makes you believe that if you gave him Colorado

601
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: that they would be better. Yeah. Not not Colorado be

602
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: better in Oregon State, but they would be better than

603
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: one win right now. I'll tell you that much. Fox

604
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk line up in

605
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607
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live and on Colorado's end,

608
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: they still stink. I mean there's, I mean there's they

609
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: got a couple of good players. They got a couple

610
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: of good players, but I don't I don't know what

611
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: to at this point, I really don't know what to say. Listen,

612
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: they are a farm system for the rest of the

613
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: Pac twelve right now, because what I'm worried about because

614
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: all they're good players, like Christian Gonzalez who's at Oregon

615
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: right right now, they're gonna be like, oh wait, hold on,

616
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, Oregon has a has

617
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: a hole there, u c l A has a hole there.

618
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: Errors Zona. Huh, they're actually winning games. Let me go

619
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: play for Arizona instead. They are gonna be a farm

620
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: team for the rest that are packed twelve. And I

621
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: think that they're also probably gonna have to rely on

622
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: guys that played in other areas of the country to

623
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: come out and and fill the gap for them while

624
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: some of their good players leave. So like they have

625
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: Josh Chandler Smito, who is uh Elvis Dumerville body out

626
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: there and he's got ten tackles for a loss. He's good,

627
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: He's really good. But he's a West Virginia transfer, I believe,

628
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: and so you know, I think that's gonna be he

629
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: but it transferred. I think he did, and that I

630
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: think that he's he's a senior anyway, So I think

631
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna kind of have to do to

632
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: to fill out their roster. And I know that um

633
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: A s U has kind of taken that they've had

634
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: too because of the investigation, Colorado is going to have

635
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: to do it just because it's you know, anytime. I'm

636
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: worried about them right now, about Montana Aimonious Craig turning

637
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: his one good game into uh, you know, something to

638
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: send out to to one of the other Pack twelve

639
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: teams that needs assistance at receiver. UM. And I'd be

640
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: worried about that if I was Colorado. UM, one of

641
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: might be one of the motivations that if you know,

642
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: the Big twelve does come knocking, that Colorado would say, Man,

643
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: we gotta get the hell out of you know, people

644
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: wanting to leave Boulder for for l A or for Tempe,

645
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: or for Seattle or for Eugene just to just, um,

646
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, get some more high profile playing time and

647
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: playmaking ability. YEP, I don't know all right, Arizona State, Stanford, Lord,

648
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: have mercy passed? I could to be. I couldn't finish

649
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: this game. I couldn't. I would prefer what's the next game?

650
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: We can we us to move on if you want to.

651
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: I have. I have things to say, but they're not

652
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: nice things. No go go going bro. Because there are

653
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: so many people that are in love with Tanner McKee,

654
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I do not get the defawning

655
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: over Tanner McKee he's tall, yes, he his his arm

656
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: action is slow. He can't move I mean like he

657
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: is standard issue pocket quarterback that adds no value to

658
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: an NFL team, like like like he's I mean, it

659
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: makes it so tough because he's not a threat with

660
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: his with his legs. It gives the defense so many

661
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: more opportunities for defenses that they can call I don't know,

662
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: the kids not a bum. He's not because he can

663
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: throw the football, but like he's the h pin guy.

664
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: You gotta knock all the obstacles down around him, like

665
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: you you have to keep them clean, you have like

666
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: like he can't make anything special happen. M I guess,

667
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Because of the system that they're kind

668
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: of running, I think it. I think that that makes

669
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: him look worse than he is. And he still looks fine,

670
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: exactly fine. He looks fine. Here's the difference. So this

671
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: year they're running slow mesh. Right, he has forty carries

672
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: and the way you obviously college football works as they

673
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: take your rushing stats out of your sex and out

674
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: of your TFLs, he in the slow mesh forty carries

675
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: for negative sixty seven yards. Before they instituted the slow

676
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: mesh sixty carries for eight yards. Do you see the

677
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: difference he can't run? Is that? No? No, no, no no?

678
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: That that the slow mesh is that it allows you

679
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: to get sacked more if you're right. But like he's not.

680
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: They did run him against U. C. L A last year,

681
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: like that's the only time they really put him out

682
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: on the run, and he he looked functional. But he

683
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: is six ft six. He looks like his shoes on

684
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: bro like like he runs like he had like like

685
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: he wears double donjoys on. I don't know. He did

686
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: exactly what I thought he would do in this game,

687
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: which is, you know, Arizona State puts everything in front

688
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: of them, which makes life inside the thirty pretty hellish. Um.

689
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why Stanford doesn't take advantage of the

690
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: fact that every single one of their receivers is also

691
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: Tanner mckie's size. Uh. That has not That has not

692
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: made a lot of sense to me. But Stanford moved

693
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: the ball at will in this game and then they

694
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: get to like the thirty yard line. And the way

695
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: the A s U. S defense is structured is that

696
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: they really make it tough on you and it's gonna

697
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: be like that for everybody that plays a s U.

698
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: There's just you know, that's just the way they do things. Um.

699
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: But they moved the ball well and when he had time,

700
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: he made all his throws. Jordan Clark's interception of him

701
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: was a feat of athleticism on his part. I think

702
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: he looks fine. You know. John Wilner says he's gonna

703
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: be a top fifty pick, not possibly, not possibly top forty,

704
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: not a I think that he's I think he's more

705
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: like a fourth, fifth round guy. And I think he's

706
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna because he's gonna go to the combine and he's

707
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: gonna be thrown a T shirt and shorts and he's

708
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: gonna look like Josh Allen. What Wilner is thinking that

709
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: That's what happened with Davis Mills, right, So that is

710
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: what will happen with Tanner mckeek. Is they're kind of

711
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: the same guy. Nope. The difference is is that Davis

712
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: Mills had didn't play very much, Yeah, and so there

713
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: was still some intrigue there. Tanner McKee has a lot

714
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: more film on him, and people see what Davis Mills did,

715
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't I don't want that despite how

716
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: good he can throw the foot football. I think that

717
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: Tanner McKee will be in the NFL for a bit.

718
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a starter in the NFL. I

719
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: don't think, you know, a longer backup like a Josh

720
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: McCown or something like that. But it but a long

721
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: backup that that that's like the But it's even hard

722
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: for those guys to find a find a job where

723
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: like guys like p J. Walker are taking their spots. Yes,

724
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: I got to see him live this weekend to shout

725
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: out to the Houston Roughnecks legend, but I don't know.

726
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: I David Shaw is probably the only coach in college

727
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: football that could kick five field, not score a touchdown

728
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: and sleep like a baby and we're like, yeah, hey, hey, hey,

729
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: we did in front of a job done today. And

730
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the money. I don't think it's

731
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: the money. I think I think he has that just

732
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: NFL mindset of like, we won, we won the game,

733
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: move on, you know, we'll address it later. But I

734
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: don't think he I don't think he was upset in

735
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: the slightest that they know every win that they get.

736
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: Right now they are three and four, They are three

737
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: and four, and they're like, listen, our goal we we

738
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: we can still make a bowl game. They play U

739
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: C l A. Now, now, mind you, They've scored thirty

740
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: one points in the last two weeks and have two wins.

741
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: How many touchdowns? Uh? They scored against Notre Dame? How

742
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: many did they scored? Twice? Yeah? Uh? Phil? No? No once?

743
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: Only only Phil can scored and then scored one touchdown

744
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: in two weeks and they yeah, uh, it's like Baltimore

745
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: Ravens two Ravens? Do you ever want to? Like? You

746
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: ever get? You ever want to? And maybe it was

747
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: earlier in the podcast we were talking about Illinois defense,

748
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: But do you ever just want to shake somebody? Yes,

749
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: that's how I feel about Arizona State. So now Arizona

750
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: State was four for thirt on third down. That's not

751
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: good enough. Emry Jones special Yeah, um eight penalty seventy

752
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: five yards? They ran yeah, ten negative plays. They don't

753
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: do anything from the five to fifteen yards down the field.

754
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: They're either running the ball or throwing a home run ball.

755
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: They are putred. Shawn Iguana has taken away play calling

756
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: duties from Glenn Thomas. Um your boys old O c

757
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: out at U and l v UM. I don't know

758
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: how he got this from. What I do was that

759
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: Killgott had to resign right before the season started. UM.

760
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: But so Glenn Thomas is out, the quarterback competition has

761
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: now opened up. UM process this bit of information. George

762
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: Trenton boorg Ay has played two and a half quarters. Okay,

763
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: let's say they give him the start against Colorado and

764
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: he duplicates what he did in two and a half

765
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: quarters against Colorado, one of the worst teams in all

766
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: of college football in the last five years. So he

767
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: just has his two hundred fifty yards three touchdowns. That

768
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: will mean that in six and a half quarters, Trenton

769
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: boorg Ay has more touchdown passes than Emery Jones in

770
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: six games. Damn right. That's that is the level of

771
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: quarterback production that a s U is getting out of Emory.

772
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: Like Zach Zack Wilson with the Jets right now, who's

773
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: throwing one touchdown past this entire season. Yeah, except without

774
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: the winning It's it's very frustrating and I cannot say

775
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: enough negative things about the way this a SU season

776
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: has gone. But n C double as back in their

777
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: back interviewing people. There was a rumor that Ray Anderson

778
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: was going to get dropped this week, and Michael Crowe

779
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: came out and said, no, he's our guy. So we

780
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: got the vote of confidence going for us UM. But

781
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: it's all it's all come to ahead, and Shawn Iguana

782
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: is one opportunity after what I thought was costing himself

783
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: the job by not making a quarterback switch. His one

784
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: opportunity is too Um is to call the place himself.

785
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: And and beyond that, I want to say shout out

786
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: to the Pack twelve refs because they almost had like

787
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: an all time screw up in this game. Uh Emery Jones.

788
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: After so the as you needed to get in field

789
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: goal range they did. Then they had like a seven

790
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: step drop ten yards sack, which was like the most

791
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: idiotic play calling I've ever seen in my life. Then

792
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: they throw a bomb to Elijah Badger on the sideline,

793
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: who scores should have been the game winning touchdown. His

794
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: toe was out. A s U ran to the line

795
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: to like dive over with three seconds left for the

796
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown with Demory Jones, but they triggered a

797
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: review and Stanford gets to win, and the Pack twelve

798
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: almost almost took a win away from Stanford and got

799
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: very lucky to have not um because if a su

800
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: had snapped the ball, then then Amory Jones probably gets

801
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: the one inch over the line of scrimmage scores because

802
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: they blew the call twice. Elijah Badger was out of

803
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: bounds and he scored, so they blew the call twice,

804
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: put it on the inside the one and and if

805
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: that review is not triggered, then Stanford loses that game.

806
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: And who knows what David Show would have said. All right,

807
00:50:54,440 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: the last game of Washington Cow Washington Cow twenty one.

808
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: If I tell you these stats, okay, tell me, tell

809
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: me what you think that the score was. Washington had

810
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: twenty eight first downs to Cows. I'm sorry to cows.

811
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: Eighteen third downs ten for seventeen for Washington, six for

812
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: fifteen for Cow. Fourth down efficiency oh for one for Washington,

813
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: two for three for Cow. Total yards four seventy six

814
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: to three oh six. Yeah, and no turnovers for either team.

815
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: What what would you tell me? Blowout? Yep, And nothing

816
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: about this was a blowout at all? Actually, Cow. Yeah,

817
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: Cow had the opportunity to win this game and they

818
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: just don't have enough offense to punch their way out

819
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: of a paper bag. Yeah, you know how like sometimes

820
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: Navy seals go around like speaking to school kids about

821
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: like toughness and overcoming adversity. We gotta get Jack Plumber

822
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: on that speakers. Oh my god, dude, dude, he his

823
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: ass kicked. Bro. I mean, their offensive line is nonexistent.

824
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: Their their their offensive line is about as good as

825
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: you know those Uh Like when in in high schools

826
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: when they run through the banners at the beginning of

827
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: the game, that's their office line. It's the banner. So

828
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: I think you called me during this game and you're like,

829
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: their right tackles gonna get Jack Plummer murdered. Yea, dude,

830
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: he was And granted, Washing does have a good pass rush,

831
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: but cow's They're like, he's been getting the ship kicked

832
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: out of him all season. Bro, there's no other way

833
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 1: to say it. I don't even know how you played

834
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: quarterback under these conditions. Dude. He has to require an

835
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: Epsen salt bath, a normal tech, uh, everything just to

836
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: put him back together, put the home, put Humpty Dumpty

837
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: back together every week. And it's fun. It's because maybe

838
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: I think there's probably some people that want to see

839
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: Kay Milliner uh, because he's got no. I don't think

840
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: it is. He's like, he's lighter on his feet and

841
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: he can move around really well. Um but I I

842
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: I look at Jack Plumber and I'm like, what, tell

843
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: me what he's doing wrong? Tell me what Jack Plumbers

844
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: specifically is doing wrong. He's a little bit on the

845
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: slow right, he could run, he's big run better than

846
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: Tanner McKee. He got a big he got a big

847
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: wind up. He's got an excellent, excellent arm. But like, what,

848
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: what specifically is what problems is Jack Plumber causing for

849
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: your offense? I don't necessarily, Um, I don't see it.

850
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: And I get that Washington's defense is junk and that

851
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: might have you know, kept cal in this game, but also,

852
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: like you got you always throw out the rule book

853
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: when it comes to cal Uh and Washington. They play

854
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: some of the stranger games that we've ever had. I'll

855
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: tell you what was bizarre in this game is to

856
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: come home after going to two games in South Carolina,

857
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: pull into my driveway, I'm all sunburned, dehydrated, sit down

858
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: on the couch, turning the TV on, and I'm staring

859
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: at my own Twitter account on ESPN? What did you

860
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: catch that they did? They did a segment on how

861
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: Jack Plumber and Jake Plumber aren't related, and they used

862
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: my tweet about it to illustrate like when the mistake

863
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: was made. So I'm sitting there watching ESPN staring at

864
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 1: my own like Twitter avatar of a of a grizzly

865
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: bear in a cowboy hat. Wow, what the hell is

866
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: going on right now? It was a trip. I thought

867
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: I'd like fallen asleep on the drive home and and

868
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: and crashed and was having some type of fever dream

869
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: or something. But nope, nope, that was I didn't think

870
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: that that was the way I'd end up on ESPN.

871
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: But that was fun, alright. So Michael Pannox Jr. Assaulting

872
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: the record book still three seventy four yards passing. I mean,

873
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: Mike Mike Leach would love the way this offense is

874
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: being being run. They ran for a hundred and two yards,

875
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: which which they'd be like, Hell yeah, hundred yards rushing

876
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: in a total game. Hell yeah. Um. So here's my

877
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: question for you, because we almost got into it a

878
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: little bit earlier. Is Michael Pennocks Jr. For real or

879
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: is this an Anthony Gordon year, no disrespect Anthony Gordon.

880
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Gordon, you think so? Yeah, Like, like I think

881
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: he's good, but I don't. Anthony Gordon through for fifty

882
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: hundred yards and forty eight touchdowns in his one season

883
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: as a starter, and I don't know if he ever

884
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: Like Michael Pennocks Jr. Is already at three thousand yards,

885
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: bro and they got five what four games left, so

886
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: that's another So another four hundred yards a game, that's yeah,

887
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: So he's gonna end up at forty yards passing and

888
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: but only thirty touchdowns. Though, do you think Michael pennockx Jr.

889
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: Will ever make an active NFL roster because Gordon was

890
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: on practice squads for the Seahawks, Chiefs and Broncos. Uh,

891
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: if he's in the right system and the right guy

892
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: get gets hurt, yeah, okay, like he'll he'll be a

893
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: practice squad guy might get elevant, Like if he can

894
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: hold on for long enough in the league to like

895
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: get a couple of years, like get two years of

896
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: practice time, then yes, you know, I mean like, but

897
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: right now is in an NFL quarterback now, Okay, I

898
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: don't have an opinion. I'm just I was curious to

899
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: what you thought. Yeah, but as I need like multiple

900
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: years of Caitlin to board data at the same time,

901
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: while while Washington fans will uh stamp their feet at that,

902
00:56:53,800 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that. Like about bow Knicks in

903
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: the NFL, Yeah, bo Nicks could be having an Anthony

904
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: Gordon year. Yeah, I mean because he's making a lot

905
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: of passes, but behind the line of scrimmage, guys are

906
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: making plays. But when he's given the opportunity to make

907
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: plays downfield, like, he's done well at that at that

908
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: as well. So I'm not I'm like, my like, I

909
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: have so much bow Knick's history that it takes more

910
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: to unwrite it. If that makes sense, Like he's obviously

911
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: playing extremely well. And if I'm Oregon, because he has

912
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: another year of eligibility, I'm like, how much n I

913
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: L money is it gonna take for you to come back?

914
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: Because yeah, you know what's crazy to me? That means

915
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: that your boy would be getting into portal And I

916
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: don't think that Oregon fans would care at that point.

917
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: If bow Knicks came back and you have Dante Moore

918
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: coming in, I don't think that bow Knicks has a

919
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: legitimate shot at ten thousand yards passing fift nd yards

920
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: rushing in his career. Yeah, I don't. I honestly, I

921
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's been done before. Yeah, I

922
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: mean that's like some West the kid, the kid that

923
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: was at Hawaii. Uh, Timmy Chang, Yes, are you talking about?

924
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, just the passing numbers, yes, yes, so

925
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: he but he does have the he does have the opportunity.

926
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: What's crazy is he has the opportunity to hit ten

927
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: thousand yards passing without ever going over three thousand yards

928
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: in a season. Uh, he'll go over three thousand this

929
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: year probably, Yeah, probably, but that would be ten thousand

930
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: yards passing yards rushing would be I just wonder if

931
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: anybody's ever done that well, because nobody really starts that long,

932
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: like like, if they're that good, they usually end up

933
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: in in the NFL. Already, Fox Sports Radio has the

934
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 1: best sports talk line up in the nation. Catch all

935
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and

936
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app search f s R

937
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,959
Speaker 1: to listen live. All Right, um, let's get to our

938
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 1: pack twelve power rankings. Now, this has been a fluid thing.

939
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: We we have been more in lockstep this year, I

940
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: think than we ever have. Now where are now? Who

941
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: are your teams that are in the PAC twelve from

942
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: twelve to six? Well, I would know if you told

943
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: me I didn't know we're doing We do every all right,

944
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 1: so we we don't. We've done it twice all year

945
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: to total times this year we've done it. It's on

946
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: the tyra look at the bottom, right, but we do

947
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: show prep and you didn't bring it up. Oh it's fine,

948
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: Colorados at the bottom. So there that's my twelve. Uh,

949
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, give me yours. I'll tell you if

950
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: I disagree with any of them. All right, I am

951
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: going to go, And I know that this is gonna

952
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: sound weird, but I'm going in Colorado twelve, Stanford eleven, Calton,

953
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: Arizona State nine, Washington State eight, Arizona seven, Washington six,

954
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: Oregon State. No, I'm sorry, USC number five, Oregon state

955
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: number four. And I know that USC beat Oregon State.

956
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: I got like four of those already, UM and tow

957
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: and you have Stanford or A SU over Stanford, you

958
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: TAW three, U c l A two, Oregon one. I

959
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: agree with your top three. I would switch four and five.

960
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I could put Arizona over cal Um

961
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: and I have a hard time putting a s U

962
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: over Cal lost to Colorado. Cal lost to Colorado. That

963
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: automatically like erases that that makes what you did against

964
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: Arizona an accident where you scored forty nine points. How

965
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: house way, I guess my problem is using the word

966
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: power to describe the teams that are at the bottom

967
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: four of this conference. We should just brnk a top

968
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: eight and then we don't have to justify anything. But um, I,

969
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. Arizona can't play defense, Arizona

970
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: State can't play offense football football. Oh my god, dude,

971
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. You had you had so

972
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: many uh you completely ignored head to head throughout that

973
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: entire thing. So um, body that matters even like like,

974
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: if the body of work is pretty similar, then head

975
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: to head matters a lot. But like, well, a s

976
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: US body of work is they beat Northern Arizona and Washington,

977
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: while Stanford's body of work is they beat a s

978
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: U and they beat Notre Dame on the road and

979
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: they have one more wins. Stanford's terrible Like that, That's

980
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: all I know then you should be able to beat them. Yeah,

981
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean they have three wins. They have three wins,

982
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: which is one more than a s U, and they

983
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: beat a s U. Okay, okay, you you have can

984
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: have argued. I've argued, it's you into the eleventh. Hold awesome,

985
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: I've devalued my degree correct y Colorado twelve, Arizona State eleven,

986
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: Stanford Ton then cal, Washington State, Arizona Washington, uh USC,

987
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: Oregon State, Utah, u C l A Oregon. So you

988
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: know what you just did with that adjustment? You created

989
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: a toilet bowl. What do you mean a SU plays

990
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: Colorado this week? Yes? No, yeah, thanks to you, we

991
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: have a true toilet bowl. Oh my god, dude. If

992
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: Arizona State loses that, dude, oh, I won't be here

993
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: next week. The worst thing that could possibly happen for

994
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: both of those schools is to lose that game. No, no, no, no, no,

995
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the boast. The worst thing that can happen

996
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: to both of those schools is Colorado winning. It would

997
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: be the worst thing for Colorado too, Like they'd hire

998
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: the o C permanent. Yes, yes, they'd be like, look

999
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: he's he's winning games. Like like let's tire him and

1000
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: it will be cheap. No, dude, I again, you will

1001
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: have to have a different co host. I will be

1002
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: seven weeks of sitting shiva or whatever. All right, let's

1003
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: quickly get through the games this week and make our picks. Um.

1004
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: I won't even ask what the score is because I

1005
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: know I'm demolishing you. Brother. We're close in this. It's

1006
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: it's like your two games ahead of me in the

1007
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: other thing we do, which we didn't even do this

1008
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: last week. Thank God for the break. Um, I'm I'm

1009
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 1: like ten to fifteen games beyond you and we only

1010
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: pick five games a week. All right, First game Thursday night, Utah,

1011
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: Washington State. Utah goes to the police, takes their number

1012
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: fourteen ranking up to UH to the corner of the earth,

1013
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: one of the coldest places is gonna be forty six degrees,

1014
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: but Utah doesn't care. It's the same temperature there. Um,

1015
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: they're just not playing it outitude like that. What's the

1016
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: line on this game? This is? Would you say that

1017
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: this is a tavan his due game? It seems like

1018
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: they've been going away from Tavian Thomas as much. Yeah. Well,

1019
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: it's Utah minus seven UM at Washington State. They have

1020
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: been able to score lately, back to back two touchdown

1021
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: losses on the road, so it's gonna be different. I

1022
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: think that they're at home, they had two weeks to prepare. Uh,

1023
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: they're not fraudulent on the defensive side of the ball.

1024
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: If they don't, well, I mean you, Clark Phillips is

1025
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 1: going to have to because right now I think we're

1026
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's too eh too little PO two butchered

1027
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: that and Clark Phillips probably UM in the running for

1028
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: PacTel Defensive Player of the Year. Hold up or the

1029
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: d lineman from from usc that Yeah, that's whose name

1030
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: I ruined? Oh yeah I did. I did such a

1031
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: bad job that you didn't even recognize Laura below too? Yeah, yes, correct, Yeah.

1032
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, is he talking about

1033
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: somebody or watching these things. I don't think they're gonna

1034
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: give They're gonna give Clark Phillips a bunch of chances

1035
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: to make plays in this game. It'll be interesting if

1036
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: they run the ball um. I I think I think

1037
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: Utah's got a big advantage here outside of it being

1038
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: UM at Washington State. I like you taught by ten,

1039
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: I like him by. Yeah, I like him by at

1040
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: least ten as well. I think this is gonna be

1041
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: a hunting in the zoo type of game that it's

1042
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: evidentually just gonna snowball, like Washington Day is gonna put

1043
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: up a fight, and then it's just gonna it ugly.

1044
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of those you just can't. You

1045
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: can't be one dimensional against uh Utah. You used to

1046
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: be able to with with with Mike Leach before Washington,

1047
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,959
Speaker 1: before Utah had established themselves and they kind of built

1048
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: their secondary around this idea that Washington State would kick

1049
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: their ass every year. Right, Um, I don't think you

1050
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: can be one dimensional against Utah anymore. All right, Um,

1051
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: we have in order of kickoff time, we have Oregon

1052
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: at Cow on Saturday. Yeah, that game's at Berkeley. Weather

1053
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: is clear. Oregan's favored by seventeen points, and they have

1054
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: demolished They are what is what is organs six and one?

1055
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: Right now? They are five and two against the spread

1056
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: because they've been favored in every single game except the

1057
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: Georgia game, and the only game that they didn't cover

1058
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: was against Washington State. Everybody else no matter how many points,

1059
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: it didn't matter who's on this FS one crew? Oh Brando? Okay, okay,

1060
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god. He had a love fest for Washington

1061
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: State that day. Would Oregon played against him? M hm?

1062
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: Seventeen points spread fifty eight point over under and Vegas Like, basically,

1063
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: what Vegas is indicating is that like every bit of

1064
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: the money has been on Oregan to cover. Yes, so

1065
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: what would you So who were I'm taking Oregon and

1066
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: the and the points? Well, I'm taking Oregon giving seventeen points. Yeah.

1067
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: I like the Cow being able to score enough points. Yeah,

1068
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: And I think Oregan is gonna give them opportunities and

1069
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if they take them that because that

1070
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: that that's just this in the best organ defense in

1071
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: the world. And Jack Plummer's got a good arm and

1072
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 1: Jaden is a good running back. So if they hold

1073
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: Cow to like ten points, are you then gonna give

1074
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 1: the defensive credit? Yeah? Okay? What at what? At what

1075
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: amount of points? Will you stop giving them credit? Oh god,

1076
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: oh god? If if Cow scores twenty four points, I

1077
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: will come on here and criticize it. I will be

1078
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: like this, this defense needs to get their ship together.

1079
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm not dumping on on Oregon's defense because I think

1080
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: U c l A really is that good. And like

1081
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: you pointed out, they made they made place right. Uh,

1082
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: but they did not stop. You see, they did enough.

1083
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: Mike d'antoni's philosophy. You know, the team with the most

1084
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: points had the best defense. Um, they're a top three

1085
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: defense in the pack twelve. Yeah, but yeah, no, there

1086
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be a contest seventeen. Um, you've had no

1087
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,759
Speaker 1: problem taking big spreads for Oregon this year, You've covered

1088
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: most of them. Are you taking this? Yes? Yes, yes,

1089
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: I think Cal scores thirteen points sixteen max. It's hard

1090
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: to imagine Oregon not dropping forty. It's really hard, Which

1091
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: means that even if Cal got twenty four, you're still

1092
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: on the cusp of covering and Cal isn't Even if

1093
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: you even if you went out there with eight players,

1094
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Cal could score no points. God, I

1095
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: just don't think that's the way their offense is built. Yeah.

1096
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: So and now if uh, justin Wilcox, Peter Sermon and

1097
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: their officive coordinator who was my office of coordinator in Jacksonville. Uh,

1098
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: here this they're gonna hate me more, but whatever, Well,

1099
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: and that so that's that that does add the other

1100
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: interesting wrinkle to this game, like you you turned down

1101
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: the Oregon job because you didn't like the conditions that

1102
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: were given to you, and then they turned around and

1103
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: run the score up on you. Then you're gonna look ridiculous,

1104
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: you know. And they have a three game losing streak

1105
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: after also, and to lose your home field advantage that

1106
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: you had going into the Washington game and you lost

1107
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: the Colorado Yes, and we have to keep pointing that out.

1108
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: Is is there any chance here for is there something

1109
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: calculd do to expose a weakness on on Oregan's end? No? No, no,

1110
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: there's no way to lose this game. This feels like

1111
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: Alabama Alabama versus Like No, actually I can't even say

1112
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: that one because that was a rivalry game. I'll go like, oh,

1113
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: this feels like Alabama versus Missouri. Yeah. Like the best

1114
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: they can do is make it interesting through three quarters? Correct?

1115
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: All right? Um, next game up USC at Arizona. What's

1116
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: the line on this game? I find this over I

1117
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: think this over under is interesting. Is it less than

1118
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: you would anticipated? No, it's more because the over under

1119
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: an Oregon Cow game is fifty eight, So that says

1120
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: that they do not even expect Cow to score very

1121
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: many points. Right, this is almost twenty points higher. Yes, yeah,

1122
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't like so USC is favored by fifteen and

1123
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: a half. Um. The most money of of anyone betting

1124
01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: on any favorite this week is on US season um.

1125
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: But then again, there's just gonna be a lot more

1126
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: USC betters than there is for Arizona. So I don't

1127
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: think that should tell you anything. It just because it's

1128
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: money doesn't mean it's smart money. Right. USC's defense is

1129
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: not good. We waited for it to get exposed and

1130
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: it and it did that. I think they probably still

1131
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 1: feel like they should be undefeated, and there's an argument

1132
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: for that, but it doesn't mean that they did what

1133
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: they needed to defensively. Uh. So we we have pointed

1134
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: out that USC's defense is very bad. They're giving up

1135
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: two yards a game. Well, if USC's defense is really bad,

1136
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: what about giving up eighty more yards than that? Because

1137
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: that's where Arizona is at. Um. There, He's gonna be

1138
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: a fun ESPN highlight. Yes, Yes, they're gonna have big Yes,

1139
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have This is Jaden Delora's opportunity. Now

1140
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: where we talked about, there's no way that cal can

1141
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: be to Oregon. There is a way Arizona can beat

1142
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: usc and usc Is is injured right now too. I

1143
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: think Gentry is out. Yeah, yeah, I think he's I

1144
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: think I don't expect him to play. Um, he got

1145
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: pretty beat up. But unless you force turnovers, there's no

1146
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: because Arizona is going to turn the ball over and

1147
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: usc really doesn't. So that that to me is the

1148
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: only way. Right. Um, here's here's the thing I'm most

1149
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: interested in. Because we've anointed Caleb Williams and I feel

1150
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: like deservedly and I feel like you've given him a

1151
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: ton of praise. Um, and we've said what we had

1152
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: to say about Jaden de Laura, which is, if you're

1153
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: not ready for him, he will kill you. If you are,

1154
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna embarrass himself. Um. So Jaden Dolores stacked up

1155
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: against Caleb Williams, I think it's gonna be a fun

1156
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: comparison to show you, of a what they actually have. Uh,

1157
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: running back, it's no contest. Um, you know, better play yeah,

1158
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: but at receiver, at number one receiver, I think this

1159
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: is the this is the thing. Uh. Jordan Addison is

1160
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: fresh off winning the blatnikof right, and I think he

1161
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: was helped by Drake Lennon going down obviously. But um,

1162
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Aison, fresh off winning the Blatnikoff up against you

1163
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 1: tep transfer Jacob Cowen, who at this point in the

1164
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: season as fourteen more catches, has a hundred and fifty

1165
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: more yards receiving and they both have the same number

1166
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: of touchdowns. If Jacob Cowing looks better than Jordan Addison,

1167
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna make himself a ton of money, hey, because

1168
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: Addison's the first round pick. Yes, Fox Sports Radio has

1169
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all

1170
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,760
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1171
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app. Search f s R

1172
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 1: to listen live. Now to go back to the Caleb

1173
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: Williams thing, right, Yeah, Caleb Williams has got a lot

1174
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,879
Speaker 1: of praise and he deserves it, but he also deserves

1175
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of criticism too, because, for sure, there

1176
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: are times where he holds onto the ball too long

1177
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: and it's not clearly, not seeing the field as clearly

1178
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: as he needs to be. But there's a difference between

1179
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: holding them onto the ball too long because you know

1180
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: you can get away with it, and holding onto the

1181
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: ball too long and getting yourself destroyed like Emery Jones

1182
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: does that. They both do the same thing, but one

1183
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: of them can get away with it, and eventually that

1184
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: could get him in trouble. But so far, name one person,

1185
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: when name one defender in college football, there's maybe like

1186
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: eight guys in the NFL that I could name where

1187
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: I'd be like, all right, if they get him one,

1188
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: maybe Michael Parsons, if they get him in his sights

1189
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: one on one, they'll chase him down. Okay, here's the

1190
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: thing that USC so Utah's defense is not as good

1191
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: that this year's. That is, they have been. Okay, they

1192
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: beat USC forty two. Now Oregon State, who I think

1193
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: may have the best defense in the Pac twelve right now,

1194
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: I mean it's possible, Like like they're they're really good

1195
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: in the secondary. They are really good in the secondary,

1196
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: so they make it tough on on on teams. Now,

1197
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,919
Speaker 1: Oregon State is second in the conference in total defense,

1198
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: but they're really tied for first because it's a it's

1199
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: percentage point. Utah is giving up three D fifty yards

1200
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: a game. Oregan State has given up three D and

1201
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: fifty yards a game. I mean, we're we're talking decimal

1202
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: points and scoring defense, they're both averaging uh Utah giving

1203
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: up twenty two points a game, Oregon State giving up

1204
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: twenty two points a game, and USC giving up twenty

1205
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: two points a game. So and then Arizona is giving

1206
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: up thirty six points a game. Jesus, Yeah, sorry, there,

1207
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: there's not really I mean, the only way is, like

1208
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: if they can find a way to like get some

1209
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: like drop ball turnovers, because Cayleb Williams doesn't really throw

1210
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: you to football, So if they can get a well,

1211
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: like they would need a couple like two turnovers two

1212
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,879
Speaker 1: to like stay in this game to win, like at

1213
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: two game. I would like to see them because they

1214
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: didn't really give the ball to Travis die that much

1215
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: against Utah, but the week before against Washington State, he

1216
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: he touched the ball twenty eight times, Right, I would

1217
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: like to see them do that again and just give

1218
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams a break, allow him to make the plays

1219
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: as they come to him and not have to like

1220
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: run all over the field. This is like, this is

1221
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: the one I hope I'm not putting any bad juju

1222
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: out in the world, but like this is the type

1223
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: of game where you like Caleb Williams doesn't have to

1224
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: do that much, but could go out and try to

1225
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: do too much, give himself hurt or something like that,

1226
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: and I don't want to see that. You you should

1227
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: try to be in a position where Miller Moss has

1228
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: taken reps in the third quarter, Yes, in this game,

1229
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: because you can run Arizona off the field if you

1230
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: want to, which limits the amount of time that Jade

1231
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: Dolora has the ball in his And here's the thing

1232
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 1: out of Arizona though, I think that Arizona may have

1233
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: learned a lot from that Oregon game. Now, it didn't

1234
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: help him against Washington because they went on the road,

1235
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: but I think that they've played two tougher teams and

1236
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: you're they're sitting there like, hold up, there are some

1237
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 1: things that we have to do better. And I think

1238
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: as a play caller that they're gonna do better as

1239
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: like play calling and not like you know, because that

1240
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: that fumble against Oregon on that fly sweep thing that

1241
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: the game was over right there. Yeah, so I think

1242
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: that they understand the urgency surrounding that. So that's the

1243
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: only thing. But they have a brutal into the schedule.

1244
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: Bro they got USC. You tak then U c l A.

1245
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, they could lose five games in

1246
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 1: a row. They're probably going to lose five games in

1247
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: a in a row and then get a chance to

1248
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: beat Washington State and Arizona State, which are two winnable games,

1249
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 1: which which makes that Cow game just like that Calgary

1250
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: is going to be the difference between them going to

1251
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: a ballgame and in three three of the last four

1252
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: games they've given up seven touchdowns. They just they don't

1253
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: have the ability to get pressure on team. Theyve got

1254
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: some decent athletes um in the second flocking to them

1255
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. They're gonna be like, oh, they're

1256
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: getting better. I can play right now. They play against

1257
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: good teams like I'm in there right now, I'm going

1258
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: in there starting And you know what's funny is and

1259
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna feel like it if you're an

1260
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: Arizona fan. But if they lose out, if they lose

1261
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: the next five games and they finish three and nine,

1262
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: it's gonna sting because you lost the Arizona State And

1263
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna sting for Jayden Delora because he lost to

1264
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: Washington State. But the truth of the matter is when

1265
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: you zoom out, you're gonna look at this season and

1266
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: be like, what a huge success for Arizona And that's

1267
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 1: like people need to understand. This would be like Colorado

1268
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: winning three games next year. Year. Yeah, it's huge. It

1269
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like in the moment they are getting better.

1270
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: They they're gonna lose. Well, actually that that would mean

1271
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: they finished losing the season seven games in a in

1272
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: a row. If they lose the next five, I think

1273
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: they lose the next three and then they can beat

1274
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: Washington State and beat Arizona State. If they beat if

1275
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: they win both of those games, this season, parade, throw

1276
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: a parade. You couldn't ask for anything more after one

1277
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: win in two years, and that win was not legitimate.

1278
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship what anybody says. Col should

1279
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: not have gotten off the bus. They shouldn't have the

1280
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: games shouldn't have been played, or maybe had been played

1281
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: at a later date. It's a win technically, but the

1282
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: truth of the matter is they were the worst team

1283
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 1: in Power Five over the last two years. And you're

1284
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: telling me they're gonna come back win five games, including

1285
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 1: a win over North Dakota State. That's that is humongous

1286
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: and again, even three games is a success. They're playing

1287
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: with house money right now, so UM, I hope they

1288
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 1: act like it. I hope the fans realized that even

1289
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: if they do continue to struggle, UM, how much fun

1290
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: it is to have a team that can actually score

1291
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: the football because they didn't have that for the last

1292
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: two years. Stanford at U c l A. It's gonna

1293
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: be bad. This is sixteen and a half point Sprett

1294
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: get I'll take it. I'll take it to I'll take

1295
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: it to. They are Dorian Thompson, Robinson is gonna be

1296
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: like I don't even know if he slept all week.

1297
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: M he probably is not happy. I mean after the

1298
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: game he was like, yo, if we had just executed,

1299
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: we were better than Oregon. Like he still wasn't even

1300
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: accepting the laws to after the game, like so he damns,

1301
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: your ain't accepting it now, and he said he about

1302
01:22:55,160 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: to send people to the capitol. Yes, I demanded count. Yes, Yes,

1303
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: Stanford has no hope in this game. None. I agree.

1304
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: I agree. They're gonna get absolutely crushed, crushed. And if

1305
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: they don't, then all those people that were like it's

1306
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: all an illusion fire Chip Kelly, we can't take him

1307
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: to the big ten. Then I'll start listening to those

1308
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: people because I thought they were Remember I told you

1309
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: that U c l A's floor this year was ten wins. Yes,

1310
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: that's their floor, and they are right on pace right

1311
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: now like that that. That's the only game I thought

1312
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: that they would lose so far was the Oregon game.

1313
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 1: I think the only other possible game that they can

1314
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: lose as USC that's it. Yeah, haven't watched Stanford up close.

1315
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna put some points, but I

1316
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: just don't. It's crazy because they're gonna kick like seven

1317
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: field goals. Yet are gonna get thwenty one points off

1318
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: seven field goals? Right? Uh, It's just crazy to me

1319
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 1: because this Stanford defense is outperforming their talent on the

1320
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. They are They have played

1321
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: eleven very good quarters in their last twelve, yes, and

1322
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: there's still two and one. Offensively, they have played zero

1323
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: good quarters and in the last twelve and tune one. Um.

1324
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 1: I think the universe rights itself and I think we

1325
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: see I think I think we I think we might

1326
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: see a six at the front of U c l

1327
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: A's score. Sixty Damn, Hey, it is entirely possible. Yeah,

1328
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 1: and the bro I like David Shaw, but they gotta

1329
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: they have to make some changes. I don't like go out, oh, like,

1330
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 1: but what changes? But what changes go to the Mountain

1331
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: West since they play San Diego State brand of football?

1332
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: What changes? Like? What can they do like need a

1333
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:17,879
Speaker 1: new office coordinator and but they already have their offensive

1334
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,799
Speaker 1: coordinator already has the ability to focus only on scheming

1335
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: because they don't recruit in the same way. I don't know, Bro,

1336
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,919
Speaker 1: It's it's it's troubled time. It is decision time at Stanford.

1337
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: I would feel I would feel bad for them if

1338
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: they were not if those kids weren't leaving with Stanford

1339
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: degrees like they're gonna be fine. And if David Shaw

1340
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: wasn't the you know, a top ten, highest, top five,

1341
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 1: highest paid coach in college football, I would have sympathy

1342
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: because they are getting royally screwed based on their own

1343
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: set of standards. But I don't. I don't feel sorry

1344
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: for them because there's no They've done nothing on their

1345
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: end to mitigate correct correct like they have let everything

1346
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: happen to them and not throw on like a two

1347
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: game winning streak and We're just like shipping all over

1348
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: them right now. But it and they haven't in college football.

1349
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: They are letting everything happen to them. They are not

1350
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: happening to college football. All right? Um, last game up,

1351
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: Arizona State at Colorado the Toilet Bowl, A team that

1352
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: should be o and seven, but it's one in six

1353
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 1: because because cal refused to run the football. Um and

1354
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: Arizona State? Who who looks atrocious? This is how bad

1355
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: Colorado is? Yeah? What's the line on this game? Fourteen? Right? Yes?

1356
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: A half? Yes, so it should be bad. It is

1357
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: how bad you are? If that's if Arizona State's favored

1358
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: by thirteen and a half points. What is the line

1359
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna be for Oregon Colorado next week? Thirty three and

1360
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: a half? Yeah, it's that's like an Alabama line bro

1361
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: playing bandy. Yes all right, Um, so who are you

1362
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: taking it in this game? Because we both took U

1363
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: c l A. Who are you taking? I said on

1364
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: last week's show that there were things that Stanford could

1365
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 1: do to put Arizona State in trouble, even though Arizona

1366
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: State is the better team. They did those exact things.

1367
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: It was like watching my nightmare play out in front

1368
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: of me. Um, that's not a possibility in this game.

1369
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: It's not there's no there's nothing Colorado can do. You

1370
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: can do something to yourself against Colorado to allow them

1371
01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:01,560
Speaker 1: uh in, but there it's on. It's not happening. I

1372
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,560
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what to say. Is there a

1373
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: chance that a su might not cover because they can't

1374
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: move the football? Like? Possibly? But this is crazy. So

1375
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: you have a former high school football coach who has

1376
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: not been a play call or wasn't even at the

1377
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: high school that he he was at, not for the

1378
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,560
Speaker 1: last few years that he was there calling plays for

1379
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: the very first time. You might get a five ft

1380
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 1: eleven walk on quarterback National seven on seven champion, with

1381
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: an offensive line that has five interior offensive linemen, two

1382
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: of which you have to play at tackle. And there's

1383
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: still no reason that they should lose or they should

1384
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: uh do anything other than blow Colorado app so So

1385
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: because Colorado did beat cow So is there a way

1386
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: they can beat Arizona State? They got to score on

1387
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: defense and special teams and it would have to be

1388
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: like multiple times. Um, because they're gonna give up at

1389
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: least I think they're gonna at least thirty four, So

1390
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: how are they going to get that back? Because what

1391
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: Arizona State could do is they could just give the

1392
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: ball to Sesavian Valid at times, and that's that's lights out.

1393
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: He is a top three or four running back in

1394
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve. He's dependable as hell. Yeah, I mean,

1395
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start him at four because sharp Sharmonnat is

1396
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: cemented at number one in everybody's mind. I think, Bucky,

1397
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 1: everything's to Troy died, I mean Travis died three, and

1398
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,560
Speaker 1: then we can Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I

1399
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: think you're right. But and then and then you have

1400
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 1: Daniel and Gatta, the backup running back who is like

1401
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: super fast, and if they were able to mix them up,

1402
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 1: they might not even have to throw a pass to

1403
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: win this game. Uh and based on the way they

1404
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: did pass pro, maybe they shouldn't. Hey and and and

1405
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: that's basically what air Force did did to him. So

1406
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: you know who's gonna be your co host next week

1407
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: when I'm wrong, because I will take a week off.

1408
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: I would just I will, Oh my gosh, I will start.

1409
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect you to be here if if Oregon

1410
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 1: lost to Colorado. Dude, if Oregon loses to Colorado next

1411
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: next week, I will show up with clown masks. I

1412
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: will do the show in clown paint. Yeah. I uh,

1413
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do it, man, especially

1414
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 1: after the same I think I might. I think I

1415
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 1: might give up football. Arizona State. That'll be back in

1416
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: ten years. Bro, don't worry. Just be just hate patient.

1417
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: I hate this. I hate the NCY double a. I

1418
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: hate not a huge fan of Antonio Pierce right now,

1419
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: I just you should. It's not just Antonio Pierce's fault.

1420
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: This is Herm's fault. This is Ray Anderson's fault. But

1421
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 1: even more than it's raised fault, it's raised fault. No, no,

1422
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 1: I have this theory. My go Crow. He deserves even

1423
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 1: more blame because no, he does, because he allowed this

1424
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: to happen because of Larry Michael Scott. So like all

1425
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: of this goes back to Michael Crow continuing to back

1426
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 1: Michael Scott Larry Larry Michael Scott that then allowed him

1427
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:25,560
Speaker 1: to stay with Ray Anderson. High dude, this is like

1428
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: the butterfly effect for Arizona State, and they came out

1429
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 1: the worst to wear out of any pack twelve team.

1430
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: They came out the worst to wear. I just I'm

1431
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: imagining a world. First of all, I'm imagining the world

1432
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: in which any other a D would have hired her Edwards.

1433
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it exists, but if they had, it

1434
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: would probably be a world where you gave them the

1435
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 1: resources they needed to succeed and held them accountable. Yeah,

1436
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:54,440
Speaker 1: Ray Anderson took this huge risk, risked his entire reputation,

1437
01:31:55,280 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: and then didn't support herm at all, not at all.

1438
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: Didn't make him learn how to recruit, didn't make him

1439
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 1: learn how to use social media, didn't make sure that

1440
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: he knew what was going on around him. Uh. I've

1441
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 1: convinced myself, based on some of the success that a

1442
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: SU had, that a halfway present athletic director that wasn't

1443
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: busy battling his basketball coach over who may or may

1444
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 1: not have sexually harassed his wife would have Actually, let's

1445
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: not get into it and now, and and you know what,

1446
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 1: let's end the show. Next week we'll talk about some

1447
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 1: of stuff that George Kleafcoff said it backed to a

1448
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: basketball media day. But right now I want to go

1449
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: drink a bottle of whiskey and not think about the

1450
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: fact that Arizona State might be bad for the next

1451
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: five years because of this. I'm sorry, bro, what what

1452
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: are we going to do if they take away fifteen

1453
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: scholarships or something? Bro. If they take away fifteen scholarships, bro,

1454
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 1: that would be that would be the equivalent of I

1455
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: don't even know, bro, Like that would literally be the

1456
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: equivalent of quitting. I mean, like the death penalty for them.

1457
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: How many did they take from USC ten and that

1458
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: torched them? I remember, yeah, except for Lincoln right, not

1459
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: not Lincoln, Lincoln Riley. Umn was still able to recruit

1460
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: the top ten class with dudes. Yeah. So, before Ralph

1461
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 1: breaks down, I'm George, He's Ralph answered, this is the

1462
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: factor wealth. Apostles