WEBVTT - Conversations About Relevance 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.320 M Watch up and welcome back to another episode and 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.240 No Sillers Podcast with your host now funk that with 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:25.119 your low blasses malone. Relevance the definition of relevance relation 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:38.440 to the matter at hand, practical and especially social. Oh, 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:47.239 practical and especially social apple no applicability. I've never heard that, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.960 but it's relation to the matter at hand. I know 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.800 we're not about to talk about what I think what 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.760 we're gonna talk about. I just noticed that that's a 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.480 you have that people have all the time. And somebody's 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:08.200 not relevant. And if they say, like as artists, right, 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.600 an artivist is not excuse me an artimist because I'm 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:21.600 tired today. An artist is not relevant in hip hop 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:29.200 never that's that's so that's a term of you know, 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.000 as an insult in hip hop that we said, oh 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:40.360 that nigg is not relevant. Sure, And I've heard this 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.000 term over the years, Oh that person is not relevant 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.040 this person even recently I've heard I heard twenty one 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.480 Savage within context. I don't think he was meaning to 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.320 be insulting when he said that. And he said NAS 0:01:53.640 --> 0:02:00.640 isn't relevant to him, No, and isn't relevant by that definition, 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.600 and and and say I've gotta let me finish, to 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.840 jump off the porch because hold up in court on time. Relax. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.600 NAS isn't relevant is what he said. Now, what I 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.600 take it to mean is he saying nas Is music 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:21.560 isn't relevant to hip hop today. Even at that point, 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:27.520 I'm going to disagree, right because it very much is 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:33.239 related to the matter at hand. What would make twenty 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.200 one feel like NAS music isn't relevant? He would have 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.320 to think about maybe it's not being played on the radio. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.560 But then there would be artists that are new that 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.160 their new music isn't playing on the relevant like an 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.560 NBA young boy whose music is never on the radio 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:59.639 but more than relevant, but it's insanely relevant. Um, I know, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.799 just being used as a way to discredit older artists. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.720 And again that's I don't think that's what Savage was 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.320 trying to do because I heard the context of the 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.680 whole conversation. They were having a conversation that was complex, 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.919 and he was saying as far as what's going going 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.520 today versus what he had going on, and I think 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.079 he put NAS in his mind into a place that's 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:26.360 above the game. But is it fair to say that 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:31.000 NAS is it making relevant rap music? I don't know 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.240 if that's true, because I think there's an audience of 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.280 people that listen to twenty one Savage that's still listen 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.840 to NAS. If you look at the sales he has 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:47.000 the same. He's actually um, he's He's Gaze to Do 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.080 as many records first week as Glorilla, Who to me 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:58.400 is the hottest new artists coming out. No Glorilla, no NAS, 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.080 They're both. They're both on on Q to do right 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:05.480 around thirty thousand albums in the first week. Oh right, Well, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.640 I just went to a concert and that's at the 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:13.560 Hollywood Bowl when he was he just was there. Well, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:20.640 it was State of Mind tour, but I mean everybody 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:24.120 was standing up when he came out. Every time, every 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.240 shout out to the home girl Simona. She brought me 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:31.880 a NAS shirt. Yeah, it was. It was a dope concert, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.600 like I feel. I mean, I could be biased, because 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.200 you know, I am, like, maybe it was, so it 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:40.960 had to be. I don't know if it had to be. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.320 But he was talking about in regards to his age, 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.159 like where he's at. You want to know what I 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.640 think because if you watch the clip I watched what 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.279 he's talking about. I think he these young guys allow 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.680 themselves to be like dragged into certain ships sometimes by 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.560 the older dudes. And I think once he started hearing 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.719 like the name, I think sometimes the younger dudes start 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.360 to feel attack when the older guys start bringing up 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:08.839 the older the older rappers. But well, what people have 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.880 to understand is most of these guys that are interviewing, 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.520 interviewing him are our age that they're not even interview 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.320 on him. That's a part of a conversation or is 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:22.719 that what it was on Clubhouse? So at that point, yeah, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.440 NAS is gonna be relevant. Like I'm checking for NAS. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.839 You get what I'm saying. When they said King Disease 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.719 was three was dropping, I'm like, oh, for sure, I 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.360 can tell g the same thing. He's like, I don't 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.440 give a shit about that. I'm gonna check it out 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.320 because that's what you're saying. I'm gonna listen to it. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.400 But he's not checking for it. And then but I 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.120 wouldn't even though I'm not checking for you know, hit 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:46.240 Boy and Nass Project, I wouldn't. I don't think I 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:54.920 would say he isn't relevant. See something. No, I wouldn't 0:05:54.960 --> 0:06:00.040 say he isn't relevant. I don't think he meant it 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.520 is not relevant. I think what he was trying to 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:07.240 say was he was like, this is what I think. 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:08.960 I think what he was just trying to say was 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.240 he's not relevant to our generation of hip hop. But 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.919 that's but that's not true. That's not even true. But 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.039 that's what But that's what I think he was saying. No, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.200 and I can not agree, but I've thought about it, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.120 and I'm like, that's not true. There are certain artists 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:29.279 in the landscape that are relevant, beyond relevant, like a 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:34.479 jay Z. Now I've I've been on record, We've talked 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:35.960 about jay Z's last album, and I was like, I 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.599 think it's a pop album. I wouldn't necessarily call every 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:43.320 album because I think if a rapper is rapping about 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.640 mainstream topics, oh yeah, you know what I mean, I 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.560 think it becomes pop. It's like you Two's album, you 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.280 know what I mean. So I do think there's a 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:56.400 level of weirdness when you when you lose, when you 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.080 don't care about what's going on culturally in the streets, 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.200 and you're like, like, if nas is on the album 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.279 rapping about doing mergers and big business deals, that wouldn't 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.880 be hip hop. M Like to see. The culture itself 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.840 is hip hop. The people that come out of the 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.480 culture are representatives of hip hop. They're representatives of the culture. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.840 But your life can also change, and you can go 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:19.080 to a mainstream space to where you stop even talking, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:24.120 like because some words go pop, Like what's up at 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.720 one time with slang white T shirts? At one time 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.400 was hood hoodies. At one time street that ships in 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.880 h and them. Now you pop out with that is 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.920 not thugging no more. He is not a part of it. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:45.160 So again, there are certain things that move past the 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:51.800 landscape of hip hop. So so I think NAS is 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:56.200 like jay Z is forever relevant. If something happened to NAS, 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.400 it would be a bigger story than something happened in 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:03.720 the twenty one Savage. It's a huge story. Yeah, and 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:08.520 you got Yeah, you got old heads. So the young 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.960 the young people may not be checking for Naas, but 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:17.760 we're checking for Nas plus um, you know some younger 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.280 you know, I don't even think it's just us though, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:27.040 I think it's everything everybody. Like I think he has 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.440 that he's always and always and we meet him go 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.800 back and forth about you know, who's better JA or 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.959 NAS and nothing, And I've always told him because because 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:37.640 he always says Jay is better than not. But what 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.719 I always tell him, and I will always stand on this, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.760 I said, as popular as Jay is, and as much 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.199 as he's loved and all the things that he's accomplished, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.080 I believe and he says no, but I believe Nas 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:55.720 is more revered than Jay in in the culture and 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.800 will forever be more revered than Jay in the coach. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.760 I don't even think that's true. I think if you 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.360 ask most rappers whose life would they rather have, they 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.199 would say and career. That's because that's because Nas has 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.520 never really put his ship out there like that. He 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.160 put it out there. He started too recently. He didn't 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.120 really used to really just talk about the money he had, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.280 like he started trying to do that. Like when he 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.800 started doing that was when he started doing like, uh, 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.040 what's that more patent leather jumpsuit and you can That's 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.360 my point. He was trying to do something at that 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.120 point when he did that bullshit like he don't even 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.880 like that record. You like that record, you can aid 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.760 me now it's awesome. It's not a good record. It's 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:39.320 not indicative, Yes it is. It's absolutely not. It's not 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.440 the person you want him to be. Nas Is like, 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.800 is is the truth? Nas Is like, it is what 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.040 you love about him, that's not who he is. Nas 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.800 ain't been. Nas Is like since way before. Nas Is 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:55.720 like like, that's who we We want to keep people 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.800 where we love them, in these positions where they just 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.600 know is that's not what these guys are. Like I 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:07.959 listened to Naas but I didn't. But I'm not. I'm 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.800 not most most women, most women didn't listen to nas 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:15.160 or or exactly him or method Man. You guys looked 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:20.600 at them more than you listen to That's that's fair. Yeah, 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.480 I just said, nasty, na What are you talking about? 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:28.640 I just said that. Yeah. Now yeah. He was like, no, 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.400 you don't want to go to this concert. No, she 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:31.920 was like, you don't want to go to this concert. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:36.680 I want to say I didn't say that again, I think, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:42.040 And that's the conversation. That's slight of relevance. Um, there 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.080 are artists right on the West Coast to me that 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.319 are hyper relative on the West Coast, like if something 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:51.200 happened to them, it would be a travesty. You could 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.400 put that same artist in New York and of something 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:57.200 happened to them, nobody would bad and I like who. 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.520 You can put that same person in Kansas and nobody 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.160 was bad and not like who. A ton of guys 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.360 so kind of guys are super dominant in l A. 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.679 You mean do well in the morning. That are relevant 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.400 you're saying, but there they would be considered not relevant. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:20.160 E got you so relevant in hip hop? Nas is 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.760 one of those guys who will always be relevant in 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:27.200 hip hop all the time. Yeah, he's allegend. I don't, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.400 I don't. I don't know, because you recently, not too 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.480 long ago, said he's not relevant. We have this conversation. 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.560 I've never in my life said Nas is not I 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:41.560 told you Nas doesn't make hip hop. No, that was 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.360 a different conversation. I was saying, No, it wasn't. This 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.440 was like older, this is what had this conversation all 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:51.880 the time. Never I've never said Jameson he would lie? 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.400 Would you he actually know the exact context and the facts, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.880 jay Z, Nas and Snoop are forever relevant. Oh I 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.960 think you said no, he doesn't make relevant music. That 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.440 was what you said. Now that's true. He doesn't make 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:09.080 relevant hip hop to what the street? That's what it was. 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:14.679 No excit that's the trick. I would like to believe 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.199 that's what he's saying, but I think he was talking 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:21.200 about the way NAS is selling. Oh, that's what I think. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.600 I think he's like. But even then, you know, you're 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:31.320 talking about somebody doing thirty first week. That's well, here's 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.320 another thing, and this is this is anhing for me 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:37.959 that creates relevance right with especially with Naas, he's doing 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.920 something right now that we haven't seen done in hip hop. 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:46.520 Is that dropping these albums at this older age because 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.280 older rappers were considered to be old. And what about 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:54.920 Snoop who's been dropping out like this? No, no, no, 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.240 so because this is one thing. This is one of 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.480 the things that NAS fans does all the time, you 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:03.640 know what, the always start to make up that person here. No, 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.400 that's not true. But here's what. Here's the difference with Snoop. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.200 Although Snoop has definitely done that musically, what's kept him 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:15.480 relevant is Snoop does everything is on Hennessy commercials. He's 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:21.480 not used to kick knowledge. As my daughter knows Snoop 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.360 because of his voice because he's the voice over on 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.160 her cartoon. NS not doing none of that, But he 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.679 says Hennessey. Yeah, but what I'm telling you that you're 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.719 gonna equate that to someone who does wrestling, who does 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:40.120 a cooking show, who doesn't mean he's not but it's 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:44.640 not like wrestling with like yo, we want. So my 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.880 point is I'm not saying is the only one. But 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:53.559 now the Hennessy is not what part of his business 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.760 deals keeping relevant him announcing his business deals keeping relevant 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.480 him dating nicking manas keeps irrelevant him dating at least 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.040 kept him relevant. All of these things go into relevance. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:13.040 He announced publicly that never with them he professional pictures. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.720 I don't know what happened. Again, I just don't think. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.599 And here's and here's another see what you would like 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.360 to believe. What you would like to say is NAS 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.080 keeps himself relevant through jazz music. But that's not true. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.200 That's the belief again, y'all have this, but the l 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.800 of what NAS does, but the level of First of all, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:35.160 Snoop has not been dropping every project, these last four 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.440 projects not to drop, in my opinion, have been at 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:43.640 a very high level. That's all. That's all preference, because 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.000 I would think some of these I would think ill 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.320 Maddie still maddic life is good. Are all way better 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.320 than Kings diseases way better. It's not even close. I 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.080 don't think these are even in the top five NAS albums. Now. 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:59.160 That's not to say that he doesn't make really good albums. Still, right, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.240 that's not to say he doesn't make good albums, but 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.960 they're not Pinnacle NAS. I mean, Floyd maywhether just beat 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:05.880 up Deggi. It just ain't like when he's fighting his 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:10.400 pocket out right. So again, y'all as purious, right NAS, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:15.360 and I call him purious a NAS puris Nazis, okay, 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.560 what they say, a narcissist. He likes to pick up. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.560 He also calls me an East Coast sympathizers. Y. He's 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:32.760 a cultural seller culturist, so as a nabtist, as a 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.120 Nazi ful ship. But it's okay. I'm The funny part is, 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.360 if y'all ain't realize doing this podcast with me, I'll 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:43.880 be dead serious. And trust me, I've thought about it. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.640 This is not like you don't. It's not tongue in cheek. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.480 So when I'm talking to him about NAS, I have thought. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.560 That's why I knew. I've never said NAS is irrelevant, 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.520 A selling Hennessy on the television, right, You did say 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.960 he makes irrelevant me. I said his music the Red 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.920 Curtis made younger. Gonna start talking crazy to you. Watch you. No, 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.520 we're not Donal No, I'm telling the truth. All the 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.360 niggas know I funk with Nas as much as you 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.440 can funk with the nigga. You don't necessarily that's not 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.280 your favorite. I think not like if I had to 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.320 put Nas and now wouldn't be in my favorite guys. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.480 But I'm not in your top five, No, not mine. 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.840 And he's not in the top five my top five 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.960 of all time for everybody, and it's not even number 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.520 one out of queens my top five. Who's in your 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.480 top five? Who's in your top five? Or is anybody 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:38.160 relevance there? He's relevant, But you just tried to shoot 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.560 my nigga Snoop relevant. I didn't try to shoot He's 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.400 relevant because he does all this stuff with the I'm 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.200 saying that's what's made him more relevant. It's not the 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.560 music that's it. The music. It just announced the biggest 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.440 re launch of a record label. NAS launched the new label. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:57.880 We didn't know about it. He did Project is what's bigger. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:03.680 The relaunch of Death Row and really Snoop Dog. That 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.920 doesn't That doesn't mean that he's relevant through music? Was 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.240 it not? Death Row was all about music. He's about 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.560 to bring that back. He hasn't really done anything. He 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:16.600 released albums one three, No what he's been three three? 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.560 Just because you didn't know, Just because you don't keep 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.520 up with Snoop, you don't really This is the dude 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.920 keeper because I listened to the last let me tell 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.080 you about that was another one. Let me tell you 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.480 about relevance. Tell me I don't listen to let me 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.720 tell you about relevance because you're so by what Snoop 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:39.440 second album? Uh? Doggy Style? That's his first album? Dog Father? 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:44.720 What's his third album? Uh? Dog Style? Dog Father? Is 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.159 that the Uh? You know why you don't know? I'm 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.160 trying because he went to fucking no limit. That's why 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.800 I don't know what I mean. He's not Snoop Dog. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.400 I wasn't paying attention to him at that point because 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.760 he left Death Row and I know what was going on. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.720 I don't even think I liked the singles at that time, 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.200 so I don't remember. I can tell you Blue Parker 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.600 treatment this is crazy. I can tell you whether was 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.560 third Nasa, I'm here, tell me you've asked you a 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.000 third was NA third? I I don't remember his either 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:23.119 Imatic Nostra Dames written, this is a fake fan. He 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.040 really just grabbed it on purpose so he didn't look 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.439 like a nazis. That's literally what just happened. Don't let 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.120 he fool you. Like either thought that nigga could run 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:36.160 off NAS albums, but no, I was just saying people 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.400 are like dog and the legends are relevant because they're 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.679 always gonna Snoop is always a record away. NAS is 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.320 always a record away from being being relevant right in 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.639 the record space. So so even if the thought the 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.480 fact they're both coolest fu still that's what that's what 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:58.600 hip is. Yeah, that's what it's called hip because them 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.960 two niggas are hip. Hove is not hip anymore with them, 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:07.639 but the big Yeah, that's not hip. Now you're just 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.399 being racist. No, that's not hit. Two black women just 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.679 agree with I'm not feeling that. I'm not feeling women 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.320 because black women sell out fast. I don't even do. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.919 It's like that. I love my black man is color 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.920 is always it's actually becoming of him now, Like that's 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.800 not you just used to see in it because it's there. 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.879 I ain't going nowhere. But it's not hip. It's just 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.119 him growing up. That's how I look at it, Like 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.000 it's who don't know no other fifty ye old man 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.639 with that here? Good huh. I don't know that that's 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:43.600 not a haircut. He's literally he's literally growing bosk yot 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.240 hair so that that's literally the only person doing it 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.639 at fifty. Said his own trims are usual, and I 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.560 don't think that's that's got a lot of here to do. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.560 He definitely has a lot of hair Kodak. He said, 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.160 that's not a flex though. That's not a flex. It's 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.720 not somebody cannot make me feel proud to have hair 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.600 as an adult. It should or hair. I didn't do 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:10.680 nothing to earn this. God did this, That's what I'm saying. 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:15.159 That's a blessing. God did God every I don't know 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.200 what he was thinking, like, you need this extra hairline 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.959 for whatever reason to impress you niggas or some ladies. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.800 He still got his hairline. What the funk benefit is 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:28.119 this hairlinek eatoke vagina, This hairlinek paid bill? Probably it 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:33.080 probably yeah, exactly, it gets you vagina though somebody get 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:41.879 you younger, I don't know somebody. Pussy is so irrelevant 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:46.760 now at that point, because you got a nice hair hairline, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:51.040 got me pussy, pussy, it is irrelevant now talking about relevancy, right, 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:57.120 literally podcast where I said pussy is worth the same 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:01.399 price as Netflix nine, that's where it. Pussy with a 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.640 stocking to be there, because that's all you gotta use 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:08.800 to get some pussy Netflix. Right, You can get some 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.600 pussy that easy, right. But if if somebody don't give 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:15.879 me some pussy because I got a good hairline, pussy irrelevant. 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:21.760 But okay, so let me hear everybody. Okay, back to 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:26.320 the topic relevancy. So why why is hip hop the 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.119 only one that cares about that ship? Is it because 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:33.359 it's what's hip because black people are hip the corner 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.080 Black people make everything hip. Yeah, but that's not the point, right. 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:41.160 So a nigga, a nigga like twenty one Savage from 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.119 England arguing about what's hip. It's what black people do 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:51.600 because we are think he thinks teasing crumpets are hip. Nigga, 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.000 take that knife off his motherfucker face and stab you 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:59.480 with it. It's funny because I was laughing about that. 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:02.480 I was like, yo, it's a Canadian jew and the 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:07.800 Englishman this insisted, go with the anti Semitism. Where's where's 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.280 Michael rappaport man? I was rolling when I listened to 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.960 it the other day and I was cracking up. He 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:19.680 was He was for me. There's something for me. And 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:22.960 that's what I was asking you, like, what would the 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:24.680 Remember I came in here and I said, what is 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.359 he talking about? Is this like some Roman ship? Remember? 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.639 I asked you and you said you had listened to it, 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:33.639 yet I hadn't heard it. Right now, you want you 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.879 do something for me? I was like, Okay, this is 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.119 some weird I was, but again, you gotta understand, this 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:45.560 is Unamerican stuff. This is a Canadian Jewish kid, Jewish man. 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:49.360 He's a He's a golden child, a Canadian Jewish kids, 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:54.639 an Englishman. Savage is English. You don't forget what the 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:56.840 word the word that Drake gets to use too, which 0:22:56.840 --> 0:23:01.199 makes me even more word a Jewish kid that gets nigga. 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.359 But that's not the point. The point I'm saying is 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:08.400 that I cannot culturally, I cannot culturally try to compare 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.400 what Drake and twenty one would do because it's not 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:16.920 really for me. It's for like a mainstream people who 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:21.280 want to be niggas. It's like an Englishman and the 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:25.200 Canadian men talking tough. Now, I'm not saying twenty one 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.200 is not tough and Drake don't need to be tough. 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:30.159 Drake is tough in the in the booth comes from 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.760 place where they stabb niggas all the time. Damn got 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.120 they stabbed you ask that? So them nigga's over there 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.560 and some ship. But the level of thuggery going on 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:42.719 between that, I can't really relate. Thuggery like that is 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:50.000 real international thuggery going on. They get cracking over there too. 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.320 So I understand the relevance of you know again, it's 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:58.720 it's two countries coming together to make American music, Canada 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.440 in England. But he said he grew up in Atlanta. 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.720 You know. He was like, you can't tell me that 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:11.480 bloke don't do it because that really you come see 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:17.240 me your big sausage Tyson Fury. You guys ever listening 0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:22.920 to him talks. So what I'm saying is that that's 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:26.480 the point of relevance, like it just depends. And I've 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.120 been thinking about it more and more and more and 0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:33.040 more and more. And it's just like people like Nah, 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:37.360 Snoop jay Z, they are going to be relevant forever 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.960 they have. They're the first level of hip hop. LLL 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:49.080 co J two facts l probably the one probably close 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:54.560 to it. Iced Tea he's another guy that's super relevant. Yeah, 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:59.280 and those guys have expounded past hip hop into a 0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:03.919 space of permanent relevance because their mainstream, so mainstream things 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.600 appeal in hip hop. See everything hip hop don't appeal 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.400 in mainstream, but everything mainstream will appeal in hip hop. 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.320 That's because it became pop culture. Yeah, and at that point, 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.120 we're gonna make it. We're gonna use it the way 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:20.320 we use it. So Nas, Nas jay Z, Snoop, l 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:24.760 l q J, Iced t Uh, possibly even Ice Cube 0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.560 have ascended into pop culture. So it's the fair to 0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:32.280