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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I've been working on this outfa for some

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Speaker 1: time now, and my stepmom Karen says I'm not allowed

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Speaker 1: to wear it out tonight.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like.

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Speaker 3: Respect the drip Karen.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, sweet wirl, and welcome to the No Dunk's

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Speaker 4: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, August twenty fourth.

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Speaker 4: Im JD skeets and joining us here as always, we

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Speaker 4: got Tasmellis.

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Speaker 3: Hey everybody, Hey Tassy.

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Speaker 4: We got the beard in one. Trey Kirby, Hey, hey, oh,

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Speaker 4: we have the international man of mystery taking it to

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Speaker 4: the max. Lee Ellis friend, last, but not least making

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Speaker 4: this magic happen. JD. Hello, there he is here. We are.

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Speaker 4: Lee is back from skipping stones, but Trey is now

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Speaker 4: ripping lips. We always have to have one man on

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Speaker 4: the water, so nice to have you back, Lee. Trey,

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Speaker 4: where are you?

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Speaker 2: Always on the move, always on the run.

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Speaker 5: They're doing some repairs in our apartment, so we had

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Speaker 5: to be out of the house for a couple of days.

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Speaker 5: Rather than booking a hotel, my wife, very smart, found

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Speaker 5: a private little fishing cottage with a lake right out

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Speaker 5: the window. So I'm running out there every time. Out

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Speaker 5: trying to catch a fish, trying to rip some lips

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Speaker 5: and talk ball with the boys.

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Speaker 4: Have you had any success on this ponder late?

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Speaker 5: Oh baby, we're pulling them out, skeets, We're smashing them.

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Speaker 2: Caught a couple of bass and oh gil this morning.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, caught another one last night, rebass in twelve hours.

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Speaker 5: It took me, like I don't know, forty days to

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Speaker 5: catch a single one in the first place. So feeling

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Speaker 5: pretty good.

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Speaker 6: You're looking a little like Mark Tatum holding up the

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Speaker 6: team cards?

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Speaker 3: Different?

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Speaker 2: Is this man a robot?

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Speaker 4: All right? Well? Excellent? And there's some rumors I heard.

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Speaker 4: I guess your wife Laura was texting Nora that there's

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Speaker 4: some ten pounders in the.

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Speaker 2: Good luck of that in tomorrow hopefully.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Even the wives are in on it.

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Speaker 2: Nat Yeah, I get rid.

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Speaker 4: Of them, I guess so well. Shout out to everyone

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Speaker 4: joining us live right now on YouTube. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 4: us here on a Monday. Also kind hello, of course

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Speaker 4: everyone listening to the podcast a little bit later, keep

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Speaker 4: in as well. This Wednesday, we're gonna do a no

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Speaker 4: dunks reddit Ama a little ask me anything. We've done

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Speaker 4: this a few times, always fun, one pm Eastern No

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Speaker 4: dunks reddit Ama will share the link on our social

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Speaker 4: and ask some questions that way as well.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we'll talk fish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tune tune in for that.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure we will talk fish. All right, We got

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Speaker 4: so much to get to here on today's No Dunks.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with the Western Conference. Luca, the Legend of

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Speaker 4: Luca grows. He hits a deep step back three at

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Speaker 4: the buzzer to cap a monster triple double on a

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Speaker 4: playoff series at two games apiece. An unbelievable shot, probably

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Speaker 4: the moment from the bubble so far. Tasks. What else

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Speaker 4: do you want to talk about with this?

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Speaker 3: Come on, that was a moment.

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Speaker 6: We thought we had moments with Damian Lillard in the

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Speaker 6: seating games, Well this was it. NBA players who are there,

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Speaker 6: who are his competition are chiming in because they need

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Speaker 6: Lebron James chiming in Bang bang. They might meet later

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Speaker 4: Maybe he was watching SummerSlam. Did he return this line?

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's watching Junkyard Dog, the Intercontinental champions from the

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Speaker 6: eighties and d Wade, who is a legend himself. Luca,

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Speaker 6: we are not worthy yet. We don't know what we're

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Speaker 6: watching with this dude, because he could have quit so

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Speaker 6: They're down twenty one in this game. He obviously has

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Speaker 6: He's got all that. I think that's clear. He has that,

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Speaker 6: So we can talk about the game and no one's

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Speaker 6: that he just wasn't athletic because he looked a little chubby.

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Speaker 6: But he was going up against Kawhi on the inside

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Speaker 6: just part of the MVP conversation anymore. He's one of

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Speaker 6: and he's hard ass as well.

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Speaker 4: You said you pointed out there Lebron pointing out the

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Speaker 4: bang bang, the Mike Breen voice double bang. Did a

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Speaker 4: little research on the double bang. From what I could tell,

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Speaker 4: he was trying to draw contact. He didn't get in

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Speaker 4: with the well deserved bang bang the bang. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Breen's voice nearly cracked from that one with that step

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Speaker 4: into that, like what do you do with Clippers. You

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Speaker 4: you've got some other even good defenders on that team,

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Speaker 4: there was a little too easy for my liking, and

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Lucas as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Lucas saw Reggie Jackson switch on to him,

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Speaker 2: Leave too small.

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Speaker 5: Look, said Reggie Jackson, just pops it right in his face.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I feel a little bit like shack on this one.

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Speaker 5: We've seen this before. Who cares, big deal? You're right,

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Speaker 5: we have seen this before. Michael Jordan had to hit

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Speaker 5: his first career playoff game winner, well, bron James had

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Speaker 5: to hit his first playoff career game winner, and now

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Speaker 5: Luca has. That was legendary stuff. That's a text worthy game.

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Speaker 5: The only question I have is what's it going to

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Speaker 5: it the sprained ankle game? There's been a lot of

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Speaker 5: The Luca legendary game, the long Luca gang. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 5: when you're getting messages from people who aren't always basketball fans,

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Speaker 1: What about the bubble Bang Bang?

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 4: God, it's nice to have you back. That's good. Bubble

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Speaker 4: Bang Bang is really catchy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, the shot, of course is incredible.

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Speaker 7: And you're talking about the switch off there and Kawhi

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Speaker 7: doesn't fight at all. MAXI Cleeve's getting credit this morning

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Speaker 7: and last night for like setting a good screen, and

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Speaker 7: right method, because you've got Paul George, you've got Kawhi Leonard,

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Speaker 7: one of those guys should have ended up on Luca.

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Speaker 7: Having said that, Reggie contests, he gets up as best

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Speaker 7: and he's from so far out that he knocks it in.

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Speaker 7: And if you follow John Schuman on Twitter, you would

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Speaker 7: think Lucas probably gonna miss that shot because he didn't

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Speaker 7: have great clutch numbers and to that point. But it

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Speaker 7: brightly hit the shot and there was never I know

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Speaker 7: And it was just an incredible end to what was

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Speaker 7: Zilla tweeted it, actually like this game is giving us

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Speaker 7: a little nap window because it looked like the Clippers

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Speaker 7: But that third quarter and you know, for me, a

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Speaker 7: And if you look at the way Trey Burke has

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Speaker 7: Smith had an incredible sort of save and a put

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Speaker 7: p this series really shouldn't be close. The Clippers have

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Speaker 7: got far more talent and far more depth. But those

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Speaker 7: And I think that's because Luca is sort of just saying, listen, guys,

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Speaker 7: doesn't matter who's out there, let's just go out there

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Speaker 7: and play. And he's leading the way by doing so

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Speaker 7: much for his team. And it's inspiring to watch because

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Speaker 7: this is, you know, Luca is continually playing above almost

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Speaker 7: the expectations we haven't. We knew he was going to

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Speaker 7: be good, we didn't expect him to be so good

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just back to the final shot there too. I

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Speaker 4: thought Rick Carlile actually blew this game lead. And what

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Speaker 4: I mean by that is the Mavericks there's like what

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Speaker 4: nine seconds to go when they inbound it roughly and

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Speaker 3: But the myth is becoming very real.

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Speaker 6: And no matter how many guys he had on the floor,

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Speaker 6: that was something that Kawhi can't do. That was was

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Speaker 6: And I don't know why Kwi didn't take that one.

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Speaker 5: Take Well, that's the thing, Lee, you mentioned that it

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Speaker 5: feels like the Clippers should have a huge talent advantage,

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Speaker 5: but right now they don't. Paul George is struggling, and

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Speaker 5: it was Lou Williams for the Clippers and Trey Burke

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Speaker 4: you know, he's playing like piss right now. He shot

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Speaker 4: three for fourteen in game four there he missed six

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Speaker 1: I agree with him.

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Speaker 4: Might be some truth to that, But in the past

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Speaker 4: three games, yeah, PG is shooting ten for forty seven

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Speaker 7: I'd probably a combination of all three. I think mainly

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Speaker 7: it's still possible that he could come out and have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Trey Kirby played great defense on Paul George last night.

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Speaker 4: even remember that possession. Paul George. He just jacked a

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Speaker 4: Damn Tree, Kirby, all these people, he know, me, play

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Speaker 4: good job, Tray. You locked him up on that one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know it's not just defense for me.

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Speaker 5: if Luca won MVP next year. Right Like he made

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Speaker 2: How good is he going to be?

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Speaker 5: It's just incredible to think he I don't know, it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's so weird too. It's like, how can

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Speaker 6: Because like the mid range, the mid range, he was

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Speaker 3: But Kawhi was on him and is the.

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Speaker 4: Best defender in the NBA. Yeah, he locked him up

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Speaker 6: You're right, but yeah, back to back possessions there in

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Speaker 6: I think it's easy to forget. And I made that

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Speaker 6: And it's easy to forget he's six seven and that

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Speaker 6: and overtime. You could have finished this thing man, and

434
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to come back to bite

435
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,400
Speaker 6: them in the ass. They still have enough to win

436
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 6: this series. It's still best two out of three. And

437
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 6: I'm still picking the Clippers. I'm not sure what you

438
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,920
Speaker 6: guys are picking. But he could have shed that label

439
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 6: real quick. He would have shed it if they're up

440
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 6: three to one.

441
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 3: And.

442
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 6: I think there will come a time where he does

443
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:42,919
Speaker 6: shed it.

444
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 4: As Trey said, all right, well, task still thinks the

445
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 4: Clippers take this tray? You agree, Yeah, I do agree.

446
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 5: I ultimately think Paul George will have a couple of

447
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 5: decent games in this series. And I mean, who knows

448
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 5: what's going on with Chris STAPs. He was a scratch

449
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 5: late late yesterday, So if he's not able to back

450
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 5: and Paul George actually shows up, then the Clippers are

451
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 5: the more talented team.

452
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

453
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 5: It kind of feels like picking against Dean Willard during

454
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 5: the seating games right now? Do you really want to

455
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 5: bat against Luca? I mean, we saw what he did

456
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 5: on a bum ankle. He just made a legend of

457
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 5: himself in the night, So I don't know. Maybe this

458
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 5: is going seven Lee.

459
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 4: What do you think?

460
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: Oh? Switch.

461
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 3: Why not?

462
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: Who cares? I mean, it's great fun, isn't it?

463
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 4: Really?

464
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 7: Because I picked the Clippers to sweep this series because

465
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 7: I simply thought their defense was too good for the

466
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 7: Dallas offense. But right now that offense for Dallas has

467
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 7: been incredible, and again you're seeing contributions from guys, and

468
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 7: Luca trusts his teammates.

469
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 1: You know the way that he.

470
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Speaker 7: Passed the ball, I mean, Tim Hardaway Junior, you probably

471
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 7: saw it their skis he pulled up in traff or

472
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 7: like in transition yesterday, those twenty seconds on the shot

473
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 7: like a tight game, but he knocked it in. But

474
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 7: I think again, Luca's like, man, that's who you've got

475
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 7: to be. If we're going to beat this team. It

476
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 7: can't be just me going for forty points and trying

477
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 7: to carry the team. I need you guys to put

478
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 7: pressure on their defense. And you're seeing it from everybody,

479
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 7: and so you know what, like, let's go for it.

480
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,239
Speaker 7: Let's see if the Mats can pull this off. I mean,

481
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 7: it'd be an incredible opposit. Really again, considering the injuries

482
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 7: that they don't we then it'd be great to see

483
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 7: this one. If Luca can pull this off, and get

484
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 7: to the next round.

485
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 4: I hope it goes to seven at the least.

486
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, well I hope so too.

487
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 6: This is definitely the series of the first round undubtedly

488
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 6: k got an MRI and so that's a bad sign. Yeah,

489
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 6: they're still waiting to see how he is. But if

490
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 6: he's anything like his teammate, he'll come out there, write

491
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 6: it fresh off the MRI machine and drop forty.

492
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

493
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 4: That's the tough part with trying to determine how the

494
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 4: best of three now series is gonna go. Is like,

495
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 4: do I bet on Paul George bouncing back a little

496
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 4: bit and playing just average Paul George basketball here, or

497
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 4: do I roll with not Luca. Luca is gonna do

498
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 4: Luca things. I mean, he's gonna be forty fifteen and fifteens.

499
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 4: But Trey Burt going ten for fourteen again, you know,

500
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 4: twenty five. Those are huge points. Hauling Seth Curry obviously

501
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 4: hitting big shots and talking smack the playoff Pete Like,

502
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I like which one's more likely to continue

503
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: for you know, at least two times out of three games.

504
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 4: I guess that's why I still go Clippers in this.

505
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 4: But man, like God, I pray it go seven. I

506
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 4: pray it go seven, so we have a chance to

507
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 4: see if Luca can do it in a game seven setting,

508
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 4: let alone a Game four saying, but what a what

509
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 4: an unbelievable shot that was. That's incredible. Get the double bang,

510
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 4: the bubble bang bang, make the T shirts now it's yeah,

511
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 4: the bubble bang bang.

512
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 5: It was awesome and when it happened, it felt like

513
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 5: just any old playoff game, right, It felt the same

514
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 5: as if you were watching a playoff game during any

515
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 5: other season, Because that was a question for me, what's

516
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 5: it going to be like when somebody hits a playoff

517
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 5: game winner. We saw it and they were going crazy,

518
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 5: but I am thinking when they're in the arena, it's

519
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 5: much quieter. Luca had to have heard Mike Breen screaming,

520
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 5: right like you have heard him yelling bag bang.

521
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 4: You'd be like, thanks, Mike, I know that was only

522
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 4: the third one.

523
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

524
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know you. I would think they could

525
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 4: hear him, like I think I heard someon say this morning.

526
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 4: It would have been cool if that it's Game four

527
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: that's in Dallas, I mean, because my favorite thing is

528
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 4: like not only just hearing the crowd and going bunkers.

529
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 4: I love that when they always give us that shot

530
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: from like the back of the lower bowl or even

531
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: the back of the top ball where you see you know,

532
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: twenty thousand plus, like just go like instantaneously, hands up,

533
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 4: like they're saying loud dort. Yeah that's I mean, I

534
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 4: wish we had that shot, that iconic moment for Luca.

535
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 4: But still, you're right when he hit it, I'm screaming,

536
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 4: I'm pumping my fizz like the energy was there. I mean,

537
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 4: credit to Breen for dropping the bang bang. I mean

538
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: he was giving it all on his call.

539
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 7: So I broke one of our strict family rules at

540
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 7: the dinner table there's no devices. But last night, because

541
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 7: it went to overtime, dinner was ready, and I said

542
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 7: to my wife, I canna watch this one. I'm not

543
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 7: sure what's going to happen.

544
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 4: How are you eating dinner?

545
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: Well, it's like six o'clock, wasn't it.

546
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: No?

547
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: I think what the time was it?

548
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

549
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorr.

550
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: Are you right?

551
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: I got my game slips? You're right? Yeah, you're right?

552
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

553
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 7: Anyway, And so I normally say no one's to have

554
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 7: devices at the table, but I had the laptop out there.

555
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 7: We were watching it, and they and the rest of

556
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 7: the families, I know, I know the rest of the

557
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 7: family were eating and it was like when Steph hit that,

558
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 7: I was like, oh my god, and everyone came running

559
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 7: over to see what I was talking about. And it

560
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 7: was like the family was captivated by and it's so cool,

561
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 7: saying like a nearly four year old just looking at

562
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 7: the camera, looking at the screen discount, Oh wow, that's cool.

563
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: Like it was. It was a great moment.

564
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: Great family was just thinking, oh, this is cool. Now

565
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 4: I can watch my laptop.

566
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still on the table.

567
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 7: Maybe yeah, he wanted me to put on one of

568
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Speaker 7: his videos straight away.

569
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, you're absolutely right. I was getting my

570
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: games flipped up there because the Clippers Mavericks had been

571
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 4: playing the late game. But yeah, on the Sunday there

572
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 4: they started at the whatever it was six o'clock start. Yeah, yeah,

573
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 4: that's why they were.

574
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: It was the ABC game, that's right, That's that's.

575
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: Why they programmed it there.

576
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Speaker 6: So all the family can be watching on a Sunday,

577
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 6: but he can be ignoring each other at the dinner table.

578
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 6: That's what I was doing. I was not paying attention

579
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 6: to my family whatsoever. I took in every possession. That's

580
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 6: what phones are for.

581
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 3: Ignoring phones.

582
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Speaker 4: Did you consider giving up? Did you consider doing the

583
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 4: Ziller nap and all their tasks? When it it was

584
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: a twenty one point lead, the Clippers were dominating this game.

585
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: Luca had five points. Yeah, it came back in the

586
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: second quarter. If it was the second half, maybe I

587
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 4: would have Yeah, but they were Yeah. This freaking JJ

588
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 4: Burrea sighting Hollo that man won a championship nine years ago,

589
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 4: coming off the bench, taking off the old man's sweats

590
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 4: and getting out there and helping out, just running an offense,

591
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 4: and Boban keeps killing the Clippers keeps killing him. All right,

592
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 4: let's keep it going here. This is going to be

593
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: a very very long podcast here on a Monday, because

594
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,239
Speaker 4: we got to talk about Donovan Mitchell his fifty one

595
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: points upstages Murray's fifty as the Jazz beat the Nuggets

596
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: one twenty nine to one twenty seven. Another great game.

597
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 4: This was correct me if I'm wrong. This was the

598
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: night cap. This was the last game of the day.

599
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 4: But Utah take obviously a very very huge three to

600
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: one lead in the series. Despite being the underdog in

601
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: this lee get a start at what are your takeaways?

602
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 7: What an incredibly impressive performance this was from the Utah

603
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 7: Jazz last night, because you know, Mitchell course as a star,

604
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 7: but they had so many ways of scoring the ball,

605
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 7: and it starts, of course, with Mitchell and Gobert there. Basically,

606
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 7: anytime they want to basket, they just get Nikola Jokic

607
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 7: in the pick and roll, and if he shows on it,

608
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 7: they just throw the ball to go Baart and he

609
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 7: gets a basket. If he drops back, then Mitchell just

610
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 7: walks into an uncontested mid ranger time and time again

611
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 7: up or a layup. Or if Mitchell gets a high

612
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 7: pick and roll, he just decides to bomb that three.

613
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 7: He's got that stroke right now. But then if it's

614
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 7: not Mitchell, Mike Conley's hitting threes. Jordan Clarkson is absolutely

615
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 7: balling off the bench for them, and it just sort

616
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 7: of feels like the Jazz have so many different ways

617
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 7: of scoring and they just pick which one they want

618
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 7: when they come down.

619
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Speaker 3: Now.

620
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 7: It was a close game in theory this one, and

621
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 7: the Nuggets were in it, but it felt to me

622
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 7: more like they were just riding the hot hand of

623
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 7: Jamal Murray, who was incredible and he was scoring a lot,

624
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 7: but to me, that felt like that was a little

625
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 7: less sustainable than what the Jazz are doing because it

626
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 7: just felt like the Jazz had way more control on

627
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 7: their offense and Jokic offensively was okay, but defensively just

628
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 7: absolutely burned to death out there. And you saw Michael

629
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 7: likedn't even go with Michael Porter Junior because on defense

630
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 7: he was getting killed as well. Now he's another offensive

631
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 7: player for them, but what good is it if he's

632
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 7: if he's going to not be there defensively for them.

633
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 7: So I thought, Utah, again, this series has really surprised

634
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 7: me just how dominant they have been. And again it

635
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 7: was a close game and you know that the Nuggets

636
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 7: had a chance to win this, but I just really

637
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 7: felt that Donovan Mitchell was like, all right, I can

638
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 7: really pick my poison here on offense and I'm going

639
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 7: to get a basket for us. And they just did

640
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 7: that time and time again. You saw it, like Yo

641
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 7: Kich the look on the look of defeat on his

642
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 7: face a couple of times when it was just like,

643
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 7: oh my god, they're coming to me again on this

644
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 7: What am I going to do. Do I come out

645
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 7: and just get go give Gobert a dunk? Or do

646
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 7: I sit back and hope Mitchell misses? And Mitchell right now,

647
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 7: he's not even hitting the iron. Every shot seems to

648
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 7: just be swishing right through, and he's got the strut

649
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 7: and he's got the swagger and that play right at

650
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 7: the end where Paul Millsat blocks him and kind of

651
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 7: he doesn't talk trash, He just stares him down as

652
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 7: if like, you know, what are you doing coming in

653
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 7: into the paint like this, And then Mitchell has the

654
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 7: best possible response by swishing a three right in his

655
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 7: face and saying I want this. Apparently that's what mark

656
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 7: Stein said he was saying on the sides, and yeah,

657
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 7: I mean you know, Luca, of course is the storyline

658
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 7: this morning. But Donovan Mitchell in this series is not

659
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 7: far behind him at all for delivering on the big stage.

660
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell scored sixteen of the Jazz's final twenty points.

661
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 4: He is averaging in the playoffs right now ly thirty

662
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: nine and a half points per game on shooting splits

663
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: that are fifty six from the floor fifty one from

664
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 4: three on a ton of attempts and ninety five from

665
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: the line. He's missed I think two free throw He's

666
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: basically been money there and he's involving his team teammates

667
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 4: when the doubles are coming his way too. That's another

668
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 4: key part. He's got like twenty three assisted to twelve turnovers.

669
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: He like, and he's not even the biggest story of

670
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: the bubble. Like he's maybe the third or fourth biggest

671
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: story of the bubble. The NBA is in good hands

672
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: right now with these young stars. But that you're absolutely

673
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: right about the Nuggets, like Paul Millsapp, the nerve of

674
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: you to stare down a guy after your team maybe

675
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: played defensive possessions four times in this game, maybe that

676
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: you actually put up a little bit of a defensive fight. Yeah, okay,

677
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: good block. Nice. You guys barely did that at all, Like,

678
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: come on, Like, I like Paul Millsapp, but it was

679
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 4: just weird timing to me. You guys are not playing

680
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: a lick of defense and you're staring down a guy

681
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: that's already dropped fifty seven on you, and it's going

682
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: to go to drop another fifty one on you.

683
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 5: Come on, Yeah, they're the Enver Nuggets.

684
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: For sure.

685
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 5: They you know, they had a guy score fifty, they

686
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 5: hit seventeen threes, and they had seventeen offensive rebounds and

687
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 5: they still lost. That's a really bad loss defensively if

688
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 5: you're the Nuggets.

689
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 4: Mitchell right now.

690
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 5: He is the only guy who made more improvements in

691
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: this time off is Luca. It looks like almost a

692
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 5: different player. It looks like you're only getting the good

693
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 5: parts of Donovan Mitchell. The poise is ridiculous. I don't

694
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 5: really know how you work on passing and timing of

695
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: pick and rolls during a pandemic, when the when you're

696
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 5: not going to be able to actually go five on

697
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: five that.

698
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff.

699
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: But it looks like he's just in such good control

700
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: of everything that happens on the court. Like Lie saying

701
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 5: it's pick your poison with him, it's like we gonna

702
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 5: are we gonna be up on him because then it's

703
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 5: gonna be a dunk.

704
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 4: For Gobert and go.

705
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: Beart is even putting the ball on the floor at

706
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 5: this point, it's ridiculous. And then Mitchell the jumper's money.

707
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: It's he's finishing at the rim like a young Dwayne Wade.

708
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 5: And then when he goes to the free throw line,

709
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 5: he's knocking him down, Like when he goes to the

710
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 5: free throw line with forty eight. I feel like there's

711
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: a lot of times where you're like, come on, man,

712
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 5: you cannot miss one of these.

713
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: You gotta make it.

714
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 5: You're gonna get fifty, and you have no you have

715
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 5: no doubt that Mitchell's gonna knock him down.

716
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Donovan Mitchell is taking that leap. He was an

717
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 6: All star obviously, but last year in the postseason did

718
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 6: not look like half this player, and he just looks

719
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 6: like a superstar, like a complete superstar. And part of

720
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 6: it's the fault of the Denver Nuggets for allowing this

721
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 6: to happen. I think Nikola Jokic and I we both

722
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 6: share something like we don't really do anything until our

723
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 6: backs are against the wall. And I think Nikola Jokic

724
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 6: didn't show up in this series really defensively until this game.

725
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 6: And you know, he wasn't great, but he was trying

726
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 6: his damn hardest because his team was down two one.

727
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: But it's too late.

728
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 6: The Jazz have found their flow offensive, least so much

729
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 6: so that they're hitting fifty seven percent of their shots

730
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 6: in this game. They have found everything on offense that works,

731
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 6: and it's because of the Nver Huggets that is their fault.

732
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 6: And so the Jazz have stolen this series. And it

733
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 6: reminds me of when the Jazz won whatever they won

734
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 6: sixteen of eighteen games earlier this season, where they are

735
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 6: just knowing where everything is. Plus, Donovan Mitchell is becoming

736
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 6: a superstar and is entering that territory of MVP candidates

737
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 6: if he's going to play like this. Obviously Jordan Clarkson

738
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: was a key. He needs his own little offensive Fulkrim.

739
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 6: He's found his role on the bench. He's perfect for that.

740
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 6: And it's really really crazy. Trey mentioned or Tray said,

741
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 6: how do you train to work to pick and roll

742
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 6: when you're not working with guys? I question how Michael

743
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 6: Porter is just going to work on defense this offseason.

744
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 6: Has a guy ever just worked on defense for four

745
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 6: straight months? Because that's all Michael Porter should do, Like

746
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 6: he just doesn't. He just it just doesn't click. How

747
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 6: to move his feet, how to get in front of guys.

748
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 6: I think that's all he should be doing this offse

749
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 6: But yeah, I totally agree. Or Donvin Mitchell is an

750
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 6: underreported story because he plays on the Utah Jazz. I

751
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 6: think that's a huge, huge part of it because there's

752
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 6: other bigger stories.

753
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: And he needs to win.

754
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 6: He needs he needs to get to a conference finals,

755
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 6: I think for him to for him to get enough

756
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 6: of the narrative to get there. But he's only the

757
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 6: third player in NBA history to have multiple fifty point

758
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 6: games in a series, which is a wild stat to

759
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 6: think of. Only MJ and Iverson have done it. So

760
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 6: he is he is joining those those top people. I

761
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 6: wonder if it was a really good defense, and we'll

762
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 6: hopefully see it in the next round, how the Jazz

763
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 6: are going to play off that every series is different

764
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 6: and I'm not saying they're going to be, you know,

765
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 6: an ugly, stagnant offensive team, but I just want to

766
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 6: see with a good defense, Yeah, how they're gonna progress.

767
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. As great as Donovan Mitchell is right now, I

768
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 4: will lock it in that he's not going to average

769
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: forty points per game in the next round versus whoever

770
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: he's playing. I think that's gonna be the case here

771
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 4: because the Nuggets are just they're a joke. Defensively, It's

772
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: it's embarrassing. And Malone, I mean he altered the starting lineup.

773
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: He puts in montay Boris, he puts in Grants, he

774
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 4: brings Porter and Tory Craig off the bench. He's he

775
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: switched it up. I mean, it didn't really do a

776
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: whole lot of good. This was very similar to Game one, Lee, right, Like,

777
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 4: we had a historic playoff duel here, and it was

778
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: like Game one. What I mean by that it was

779
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: it turned into Mitchell versus Murray for the most part,

780
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: and Murray hit nine to threes. He goes for fifty

781
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 4: eleven boards, seven assays. This is the first time in

782
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: playoff history two guys, you know, opposing guys drop fifty

783
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 4: plus in the same game. It's only the sixth time

784
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: in NBA history. So it happened in the regular season

785
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: a handful of times, so the first time in the playoffs.

786
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: But the Nuggets you said it, I remember a couple

787
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: of days ago. Lee, You're like, they gotta do one thing.

788
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: They got to decide which one are we taking away? Yeah,

789
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 4: because we're giving them everything. They're hitting the of threes,

790
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: getting good looks at those. Then they're also just walking

791
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: to the rim like you gotta take away one. It's

792
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 4: basically the equivalent of a kid showing up on Halloween

793
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 4: at somebody's house and there's a bucket of candy and okay, okay,

794
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 4: this is perfect. The kid is dressed as Spider Man,

795
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 4: the person at the house, I guess, is dressed as

796
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: the Joker, and the person at the house goes, you're

797
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: allowed to take either the KitKat or the Sweethearts or

798
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 4: you know, you can have an apple, but you got

799
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 4: to pick one. And kids like now that just drops

800
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 4: the whole bucket into his bag and like it's a

801
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: way like they're taking everything, and the person the Joker

802
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: is left going on.

803
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Exactly and the jogger's not pulling it up and say hey, hey,

804
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: y don't do that.

805
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 7: He says, oh, okay, joke actually right, the Joker is

806
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 7: taking the cannyble and just pouring it into the kid's pillow.

807
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: Caase, yes, and Lee is Mike Malone watching it all happen.

808
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 7: Like but I have about just like the body language

809
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 7: between Donovan and Rudy it right now because remember, going

810
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 7: back to COVID, this was when a little bit of

811
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 7: a flare up happened that they didn't have the best relationship.

812
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 7: Right now, I think those two are just best buds

813
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 7: because Rudy is getting exactly what he wants, tons of

814
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 7: ball on the offensive end, and he's playing defense, and

815
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 7: his teammates are just saying, this is how important you

816
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 7: are to us. And I think that's another thing that's

817
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 7: kind of going a little bit under the radar right

818
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 7: now is that they're just they're all on the same page.

819
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 7: You know, they all understand what's happening. And I think

820
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 7: that's really significant for Utah because I've doubted this team

821
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 7: a lot, and right now they're very They're playing very,

822
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 7: very convinsing buss Well. However, it is against a team

823
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 7: that's playing an awful defensive team, So it will be

824
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 7: different as the playoffs go on and whether or not

825
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 7: they can sustain it. But right now, I mean, Mike

826
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 7: Conley with the bubble baby, I mean he is just

827
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 7: cooking as well. But Jordan Clarkson, I mean, you know, like, wow,

828
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 7: he's out there going this is you know in Quinn.

829
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 7: Snyder's like, right, while you're out there, man, go for it.

830
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 7: You can be the offense, and he's like, great, I

831
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 7: love this role is But the same thing he's pulling

832
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 7: up for threes off a screen or is just going

833
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 7: inside and getting mid ranges as well. So it's like

834
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 7: this is a great situation for him, and the Nuggets

835
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 7: are just being exposed so so badly right now. And

836
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 7: when you think about the two key players here are

837
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 7: Yo Kitchen Murray, and Murray's okay defensively, he's still got

838
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 7: to do some work. But going forward, the big problem

839
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 7: is how they improve Yo Kitchen's defense because he's he's

840
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 7: the franchise player, you know, and he simply has to

841
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 7: be better.

842
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's the beauty of a playoff series, like

843
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 4: when you get a coach that's like, oh, that works,

844
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 4: Let's just do that over and over and over and

845
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: over until they figure it out. And they haven't, and

846
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure they're going to this series, And yeah,

847
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: it's got to be. It's gotta be tough to be

848
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 4: Yoki Chan Malone and the entire Nuggets defense because they

849
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: just keep doing the same thing. Like you said, they

850
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 4: plug and play, the different person running the pick and roll.

851
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: It can be Mitchell, it can even be kindly, it

852
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: can be Clarkson, but it's the same damn play. I mean,

853
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 4: they're putting the same guy in the same position. And

854
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 4: making them make a decision and he can. So yeah,

855
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: I don't think I thought this series was gonna go seven.

856
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: I think we all picked then gets unless I'm mistaken,

857
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: to ultimately win this thing.

858
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 3: Right.

859
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, we said the Jazz just don't have enough guys

860
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: who can score. Yeah, we've had enough options out there.

861
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, those We screwed that one up. We

862
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: forgot how bad maybe the Nuggets defense was, especially because

863
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 4: the defense was brutal during the Bubble games too, they

864
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: were bad. But anyway, I thought it was gonna go long.

865
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: I thought there's gonna be a close series, and instead

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Speaker 4: Not that note. Oh my goodness, Wow, it's when they

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Speaker 4: pass the big bucks for the guys. Let's get to

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Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference. I think we'll make this a little quicker.

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Speaker 4: But Kemba Walkers thirty two lifts the Celtics to the

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Speaker 4: one ten, one to oh six win and they sweep

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Speaker 4: See you later, Sixers. I think we'll get to talking

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Speaker 5: Well, let's just say that looking at Kemba Walker's box

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1042
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1043
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1046
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Speaker 5: Walkers is going to look like a tough matchup because

1048
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is another impressive win. It wasn't really that

1050
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1052
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1053
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Speaker 4: So Celtics look amazing. But let's talk sixers because we

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Speaker 2: Is he getting a raw deal?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's been there for what seven years, Brett

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1080
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 5: hard and the fact that they went out there and

1081
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 5: played hard every single night. That was all you could

1082
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 5: ask for from Brett Brown and the Sixers when they

1083
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 5: first started the process. But now that they have some

1084
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 5: high draft picks, some guys who are All stars, there

1085
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 5: are expectations and despite the fact that neither Simmons and

1086
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 5: Embiid can stay on the court together for the whole time,

1087
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 5: there's just no chemistry between them.

1088
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: There's no consistency.

1089
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 5: It feels like they haven't really built anything, despite having

1090
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 5: had a few different iterations of this team. You know,

1091
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 5: there was the Jimmy Butler era. Now we're in the

1092
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 5: Tobias Harris, Josh Richardson Horford era. There's been a lot

1093
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 5: of different looks for the Sixers, So you might say

1094
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 5: Brett Brown has had a lot of things to try

1095
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 5: and figure out. But when you see the way the

1096
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 5: Sixers season ended, you know they're going to make a

1097
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 5: change and it's not going to be Simmons that are Embiid.

1098
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 5: It's probably not going to be out In Brand. So

1099
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 5: who else has left? It's Brett Brown.

1100
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brett Brown has gone. But Task, you're the Sixers,

1101
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 4: GM Brand, you're out of the way. Task, You're in Okay,

1102
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: you fire Brett Brown, What do you do next? Because

1103
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 4: you have a lot of money guaranteed to nine players

1104
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: next season, a whole lot of money, I think one

1105
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 4: hundred and forty four million, and what the luxury tax

1106
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 4: might drop from its current one hundred and thirty two million.

1107
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: So can you move Horford? Is that even possible? Can

1108
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 4: you move Tobias Harris? Is that even possible? What he's

1109
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 4: got one hundred and fifty million left on that deal?

1110
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: Or do you really look to make a crazy move

1111
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 4: and trade an embiid or trade of Simmons and actually

1112
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: get something back? Or is that insane to you? And

1113
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: just like, let's get another coach and see if he

1114
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: can make it work. What do you do?

1115
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 3: Taesk?

1116
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you start with that as you start

1117
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 6: with the coach scenario, because there's a whole lot of

1118
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 6: talent in that room. Let's remember that. And there hasn't

1119
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 6: been consistency on the floor, but there has been some

1120
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 6: constant see what the words going on from the players.

1121
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 6: Jimmy Butler left and said, basically, our coach is too

1122
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 6: soft on us. The first month that he was there,

1123
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 6: he spoke up in a meeting and acknowledged or pointed

1124
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 6: out that, hey, we have to do things the right way,

1125
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 6: and he was calling out Brett Brown from the first

1126
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 6: day he was there. Josh Richardson, who has only been

1127
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 6: there a year after they get swept, said there has

1128
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 6: to be accountability in the room. That's exact same thing

1129
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 6: that Jimmy Butler said. And he's talking about Joel Embiid.

1130
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 6: Who else would he be talking about. He's not talking

1131
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 6: about big Al or Tobias. He's talking about from the top,

1132
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 6: and it has to be done by Brett Brown. So yeah,

1133
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 6: you would you'd like to think, you know, maybe Al

1134
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 6: Horford or Tobias Harris moves and what things click. I mean,

1135
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 6: every time we talk about the Sixers, we are talking

1136
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 6: about Joel Embiid, you know, being the best version of

1137
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 6: himself or this team jelling being the best versions of themselves.

1138
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 6: And we haven't even seen anything close to that. We

1139
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 6: haven't seen any continuity on offense. It's I don't know

1140
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 6: what what Horford would bring back if you can trade him,

1141
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 6: if you have.

1142
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: To take that, right, I mean, he's got three years

1143
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: eighty million.

1144
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I mean I think there's he I start

1145
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 6: with to him over Tobias because I think there would

1146
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 6: be somebody who would take alan depending on the package.

1147
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 6: You know, maybe you have to attach something over you know,

1148
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 6: Tobias is you know, four giant years, four huge, huge

1149
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 6: max years, because al you, I think you can still

1150
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 6: look at and say, well maybe anyways, I don't think.

1151
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 6: I don't think that's the goal right now. I think

1152
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 6: the goal right now is to get a coach in

1153
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 6: there to set a plan. And seven years that he

1154
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 6: got was a lifetime. And I think you do have

1155
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 6: to point out that he took this team from the

1156
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 6: bottom of the barrel, the absolute bottom of the sea,

1157
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 6: the scraps, the crustaceans down there, and he brought them up.

1158
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 6: But he couldn't take this team from good to absolutely great.

1159
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 6: And I am tired of hearing every single player in

1160
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 6: that locker room say stuff like I don't want to

1161
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 6: get swept. I'm healthy this year, but I'm not so

1162
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 6: healthy this year. I'm just stopping my meat eating diet,

1163
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 6: and I'm not I'm not drinking shurely temples, but I

1164
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 6: am sort of drinking shairly temples. I'm just done hearing

1165
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 6: all that stuff. It's up to a coach to hold

1166
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 6: things accountable. And it's just it's a player's league. They

1167
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 6: have a lot of talent, so they're not moving any

1168
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 6: of those those big name guys. And they're not moving

1169
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 6: I don't think Tobias or Al Horford because you got

1170
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 6: to trade away assets and they've already trade away a

1171
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 6: billion assets to get Tobias Harris. You're you know, you're

1172
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 6: probably gonna have to attach picks to that, so it

1173
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 6: doesn't help out the long term view if you're doing that.

1174
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 6: The first and step is going to be let's try

1175
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 6: and make Ben Simmons, Joel and beat work.

1176
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 4: But can a coach do that? Lee? Can a coach

1177
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 4: another coach make this roster, which I think Tim Bontemp's

1178
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: called a roster more suited to nineteen ninety nine than

1179
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, Can you make it work? And because what

1180
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 4: he means are that is like, you know, they believe

1181
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 4: their size and physicality that would make of them the

1182
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: best defense in the league and that would win the

1183
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 4: playoff series and that proved not to be the case.

1184
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: Nowing NOI Simmons isn't there, that's huge, But do you

1185
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: believe a new coach can make this work?

1186
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 3: There?

1187
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 7: Yes, I do believe they can, but I don't know

1188
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 7: who that guy is. I mean, I think you can

1189
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 7: look at like, now, this is a different example. A

1190
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 7: Shaq and Kobe didn't win until Phil Jackson came along

1191
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 7: because he was able to communicate to them and get through.

1192
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 7: Now that's a different situation. But yeah, yes, exactly. But

1193
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 7: but yeah, you don't I think right now, you're still

1194
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 7: you don't want to give up on one of those

1195
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 7: guys unless you're getting an absolute certain you know, certainty

1196
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 7: in return. So the Sixers the first move is say,

1197
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 7: all right, Brett Brown, you're out, will try somebody else,

1198
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 7: and then they go from there. But you know, you

1199
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 7: look at Ol Horford and I think there is still

1200
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 7: going to be enough interest. I think some teams will go, look, listen,

1201
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 7: he's a he's a consistent player's a good defender, he

1202
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 7: spreads the floor. He's still young enough that I think

1203
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 7: someone will want to at least say that was just

1204
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 7: a bad situation there for him in Philadelphia. So I

1205
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 7: think he's got more appeal than a Tobias Harris because

1206
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 7: I think Tobias Harris just doesn't perform, and that that's

1207
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 7: the biggest problem is if you get Tobias Harrish, like

1208
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 7: he's going to give us, you know, sixteen seventeen points,

1209
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 7: eight rebounds, but it doesn't really impact the game. I

1210
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 7: think there's still a chance Al Horford can do that

1211
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 7: because he is an underrated player, but this situation just

1212
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 7: didn't work for him. But Doris Burke mentioned this on

1213
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 7: the broadcast yesterday. At the end of the game, she

1214
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 7: basically unloaded on the Sixers, just saying, listen, man, if

1215
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 7: you think Brett Brown is the problem, then that's the

1216
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 7: problem you have. It starts at the top down, you know,

1217
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 7: a badly constructed roster, and now you're just going to

1218
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 7: make Brett Brown the fall guy. So that seems to

1219
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 7: be what happens in these situations. And that tweet you

1220
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 7: read from WOJ sounds to me like the six is

1221
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 7: said to WOJE just don't announce it yet, please, okay,

1222
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 7: just give us a day. Let him get off the

1223
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 7: plane first before you announce. It's like before he does

1224
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 7: the draft picks, you know, WOJ just write something like that.

1225
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 7: So yeah, I can't see why they would keep Brett

1226
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 7: Brown on right now. They kind of have to just

1227
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 7: do something just to show they're doing something. And then

1228
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 7: it's all those peripheral pieces outside of Simmonson and beat

1229
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 7: that they have to try to somehow get rid of,

1230
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 7: and it will it will cost them an asset to

1231
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 7: trade someone who's got an enormous contract like that, and

1232
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 7: that's not a not a good situation for Philadelphia to

1233
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 7: be in.

1234
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: If you had to though, if it got to the point, Okay,

1235
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 4: new coach comes in and it still is not gelling,

1236
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 4: And what I mean by that, of course, is Embiid

1237
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: and Simmons is still not going to the levels they

1238
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: should be. And you say, and maybe one of them

1239
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: is grumbling like I want my own team. I don't

1240
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 4: want to play with this guy anymore, you know, behind

1241
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 4: the scenes through their agents. Who would you move, Trey

1242
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 4: If you're the Sixers, you're a new coach, I mean,

1243
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 4: maybe you're even a new GM in there. You have

1244
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: to pick one who would you want to keep to

1245
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 4: build around. Is it Embiid or is it Simmons.

1246
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 5: It's Simmons for me now, it probably would have been

1247
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 5: Embiid through the first three years of his career. But

1248
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 5: I think I think part of the reason that the

1249
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 5: Sixers defense isn't as good as it should be is

1250
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 5: that is that Embiid isn't in as good of shape

1251
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 5: and doesn't have the disposition to dominate every single night,

1252
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 5: because he should be the best defensive player in the league.

1253
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 5: He can move his feet incredibly well for being a

1254
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 5: guy who's seven foot three hundred pounds, and he's a

1255
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 5: great rim protector. He should be the backbone of a defense.

1256
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 5: Look what the Lakers did playing a similar two bigs lineup.

1257
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 5: They've had one of the best defenses in the league

1258
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 5: for the entire season. You hire a guy like Frank Bogel,

1259
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 5: a defensive minded coach, maybe somebody can actually build it around.

1260
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 5: If everybody's putting in the effort. And you know, Simmons

1261
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 5: was a defensive Player of the Year candidate. He'll make

1262
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 5: the All defensive teams, and surely Embiid will make an

1263
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 5: All defensive team as well.

1264
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: I would imagine. I guess it's close.

1265
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 5: It's close for him, but Simmons Simmons to me, we're

1266
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 5: seeing how important he is to the Sixers. He creates

1267
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 5: every shot for them, that's not a post up. He

1268
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 5: can score and transition. Yeah, you would like to see

1269
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 5: him take a three and have a three point shot,

1270
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 5: but it's not there yet. But he's still able to

1271
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 5: get just sixteen seventeen points a game and then bring

1272
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 5: it with defense on the other end of the court.

1273
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 5: The way that the NBA is moving, the way that

1274
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 5: the league has moved, you need somebody who can create

1275
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 5: off the dribble and can get shots for other people.

1276
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: I don't think Embid's made.

1277
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 5: Enough strides as a creator out of the post when

1278
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 5: he gets double team like we saw against the Celtics,

1279
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 5: he threw that pass to the corner, easy pick for

1280
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 5: Marcus Smart.

1281
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 4: That happens all the time.

1282
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 5: He's not a good enough passor he's not in good

1283
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 5: enough sheep, and he doesn't give enough effort every single night.

1284
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 5: So gimme Simmons at this point.

1285
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, would you guys agree with that?

1286
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: Tasly, Yeah, I would.

1287
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 7: I think Simmons has got sort of a longer term,

1288
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 7: better longer term prospects because I think, I mean, they've

1289
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 7: both had their injury concerns for sure, but even MB

1290
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 7: just in this series, it just looks like he has

1291
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 7: to work so hard just to get himself into super

1292
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 7: athletic shape, and I think those things are going to

1293
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 7: catch up with him. The further his career goes on,

1294
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 7: and just you know, this series, a couple of times

1295
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 7: you wanted him to just go down and be just

1296
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 7: so determined to just continue to punish the Celtics inside,

1297
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 7: but he kind of he does it for a few

1298
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 7: plays and then he just wants to take those mid

1299
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 7: range jump shots. And that's the problem. He doesn't seem

1300
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 7: to me to be really able to just say, right

1301
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 7: this is how we're going to win this series by

1302
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 7: me just going inside and trying to put up fifty

1303
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 7: points and getting them in foul trouble and trying to

1304
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 7: just live at the line. But he just doesn't seem

1305
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 7: to have that commitment right now.

1306
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 4: Task there's gonna be a coach.

1307
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 6: There's gonna be a coach who gets installed there who

1308
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 6: his job is to get the best out of Joel

1309
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 6: Embiid and try and maximize what that guy can do

1310
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 6: both sort of on the court and off the court,

1311
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 6: and to be a health freak if that's possible, to

1312
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 6: have him devoted to the game, if that's possible. A

1313
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 6: little bit more so, because you know, we saw as

1314
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 6: the series went along, forget the offensive end, on the

1315
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 6: defensive end, we're talking about this team being swept. This

1316
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 6: is the last game of your season. And he wasn't

1317
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 6: stepping up in pick and roll opportunities. He wasn't leaving

1318
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 6: it all on the floor. And you know, maybe that's

1319
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 6: a sign of Hey, we don't have Ben Simmons and

1320
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 6: I know we're done. But it's also the locker room

1321
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 6: is just not a cohesive place, so his talents have

1322
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 6: not been maximized. The offense he had, Brett Brown did

1323
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 6: have a full season to make it work on the

1324
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 6: offensive end, and I'm not sure if it can work

1325
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 6: because of the personnel. But at the same time, somebody

1326
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 6: else is going to get a shot and hopefully can

1327
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 6: make it happen because those are just too talent. They're

1328
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 6: too talented to move on from at this point.

1329
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 4: Let's keep it going here. Raptors overwhelmed the Nets one

1330
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 4: fifty one twenty two. That was the final score of

1331
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: that one to finish the first round sweep. I'll get

1332
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 4: it started. Congrats to the Raptors on successfully pulling off

1333
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 4: the franchise's first ever playoff sweep. That's a first. They

1334
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: dropped one hundred and fifty points on the nets. That's

1335
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 4: a Raptors franchise playoff record thirty nine assists, also a

1336
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 4: Raptors franchise playoff record, and the bench scored one hundred points,

1337
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 4: like there were Wilt Chamberlain out there. That's an NBA

1338
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: playoff record, one hundred points coming from the bench. All

1339
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: that's great again, congrats the Nets put up a bit

1340
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 4: of a fight that I mean, they're missing like seven guys.

1341
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 4: You know, they were in a couple of those games.

1342
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 4: At least, you know, I thought they played admirably. They

1343
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: put up a nice fight against the Blazers again back

1344
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 4: in the bubble seeing games when a lot of teams

1345
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: wouldn't have given a crap. But all you're taking from

1346
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: this one as a Raptors fan is you're waiting to

1347
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 4: hear the news regarding Kyle Lowry's injury and the MRI

1348
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 4: results on I guess it's the arch of his left foot.

1349
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 4: You know, were calling it his ankle, but it's the arch,

1350
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 4: which makes me even more concerned because we now know

1351
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna be Celtics Raptors. Everybody's pumped for this series.

1352
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 4: We've been talking it up for the last couple of days.

1353
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 4: It tips Thursday tasks. You know, we We debated, and

1354
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 4: we contemplated whether or not they were gonna bump this up.

1355
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 4: My god, they're bumping it up. We're going Thursday raptor Celtics.

1356
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 4: And you know, what's your opinion on the on the

1357
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 4: Kyle Lowry injury. He only played like nine minutes and

1358
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 4: he hobbles off and now we're waiting on the MRI.

1359
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 4: Like I said, not good. You don't want your you know,

1360
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 4: your leader possibly banged up heading into a series against

1361
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 4: a blood bath. It's going to be against the Celtics.

1362
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 6: Everybody knows Kyle Lowry is going to be on the floor.

1363
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 6: Take it from this non doctor who has no idea

1364
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 6: what's going on with his arch, which you don't very

1365
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 6: hear very often in terms of a basketball player's injury,

1366
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 6: which is weird. You probably you think that you would

1367
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 6: hear arch a little bit more often. Sure, but I'm

1368
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 6: guessing that Kyle Lowry will be there. Three days off.

1369
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 6: It's enough for Kyle Lowry. I'm guessing. I you know,

1370
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 6: it's it's debatable do you want more time off for

1371
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 6: Lowry to heal or do you want to keep playing

1372
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 6: this well and have a game start a little bit

1373
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 6: quicker and the fact that you've been in Florida the

1374
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 6: longest out of any NBA team. Do you want to

1375
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 6: just sit there in the bubble for a full week,

1376
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 6: which is well, you know what was the projected start

1377
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 6: date was a week today.

1378
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: So I think lowery on the floor.

1379
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 6: And I think this Raptors team you mentioned all those stats.

1380
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 6: They are the only team in the NBA who have

1381
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 6: made the second round five straight years, which is a phenomenal.

1382
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 6: They're holding playoff records, left and right team records, winning

1383
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 6: records the Toronto Raptors. Do you think that Calario missed

1384
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 6: a moment? I just I doubt it, And I know

1385
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 6: even front off the front office and and the coaching staff,

1386
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 6: Nick Nurse said, I don't think he's going to miss

1387
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 6: a second and he has no idea what's going on

1388
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 6: with the injury either. He's just speaking to the man

1389
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 6: that is Kyle Lowry and so he might be hobbled,

1390
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 6: but I don't know. I just yeah, out.

1391
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: You do hope it was a little bit of the

1392
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 4: case of like, oh, I hurt my art, to hurt

1393
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 4: my ankle, my left foot, whatever, and we're playing the

1394
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 4: nets here and it's Game four and I think we're

1395
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 4: gonna be okay if I if I sit the rest

1396
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 4: of this game out and I'll just be really, really

1397
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 4: cautious about it. But yeah, then you still get the

1398
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 4: MRI happening. You never know what's going to show up

1399
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: on that thing, and suddenly Lowry's over for the season

1400
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 4: or the rest of the year. You would hope not.

1401
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 4: I'm with you, task I think he'll be there. The

1402
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 4: guy's a dog. He's going to play, and I hope

1403
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: he is because I hope for basketball fans, you know,

1404
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 4: not only just being a Raptors fan. I want to

1405
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 4: see you. And there's already no Gordon Hayward for the Celtics,

1406
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 4: and that's a disadvantage in this series, it truly is.

1407
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 4: But still there's a lot a lot of talent, especially

1408
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 4: out on the wing in this series, and there's some depth,

1409
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 4: and there's great coaches, and I'd like to see them

1410
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 4: at least healthy enough to go head to head and

1411
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 4: see who can come out on top. This is the

1412
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 4: first time I'll ever play in the playoffs Raptors and

1413
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 4: the Celtics, which is mind boggling, both being in the

1414
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 4: same division and both making the playoffs. The last couple

1415
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 4: of years. As Task said, so very excited for this.

1416
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 4: I don't think we need to set it up yet today.

1417
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 4: I mean we're already an how we're in here. Didn't

1418
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: know Lee's manscape Dad Reid would go for twenty minutes.

1419
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 4: I'm glad it did. But let's save this for either

1420
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 4: tomorrow or you know, Wednesday, even or even Thursday, because

1421
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 4: you said it's not him until Thursday, so we have

1422
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 4: some time to really you know, sink our teeth into

1423
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 4: Celtics Raptors some things we might see in it, and

1424
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 4: you know, preview it and then ultimately predict it. Okay,

1425
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 4: that makes sense. We don't need to do it here today.

1426
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 4: But congrats again to the Raps and Silks taking care

1427
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 4: of business. Good for us. Too few less basketball games here,

1428
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 4: maybe like this week'd be nice just to get the

1429
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 4: two on a couple of those days. So that's great,

1430
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 4: all right, Tas, Let's get to tweet of the night.

1431
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 3: Tweet out the night.

1432
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 4: Wow.

1433
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 6: Alvin Gentry recently fired by the New Orleans Pelicans as

1434
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 6: their head coach.

1435
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: But he is a bigger man than I.

1436
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 6: He took out the media to a dinner right after

1437
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 6: Alvin Gentry how good a man are you? This is

1438
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 6: tweet coming from Fletcher macel, sports anchor for NBC New Orleans.

1439
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 6: You can see a lot of the New Orleans media

1440
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 6: around him sitting there, and what the tweet said was

1441
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 6: the coach who was fired took the people who wrote, talked,

1442
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 6: lobbied for him to get fired to dinner. When we

1443
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 6: went low, Gentry went high. I would never do something

1444
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 6: like that, Alvin gent You are a good good man.

1445
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 6: And you know there are a lot of tweets out there,

1446
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 6: a lot of tweets about Kobe Bryant's you know, forty

1447
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 6: second birthday, which would have been yesterday.

1448
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 3: Those are all great. The Nike ed was phenomenal.

1449
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 6: But I wanted to highlight this, this this note, this

1450
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 6: act of brilliance, this act of decency, that this man

1451
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 6: did not have to do whatsoever. He's sixty five years old,

1452
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 6: he just got canned, and he's taking out the media.

1453
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 6: I'm going to be a grumpy ass sixty five year old.

1454
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 6: There's no way I would take the high road in

1455
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 6: that situation. So just wanted to highlight that from Gentry

1456
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 6: good Man.

1457
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 4: So you think you paid for the bill, then, oh yeah.

1458
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 3: Those guys are smiling there.

1459
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely picked up.

1460
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: But there's no food on the table.

1461
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just got like a little wiser.

1462
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: That's it.

1463
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,439
Speaker 4: You get some noto. Just come and see you guys later.

1464
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 3: That's how good the food was. They ate every corundft All.

1465
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 4: Right, so gentry getting tweeted the day. I like that

1466
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 4: nice little show. Yeah you're right. It's Mama Day today.

1467
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 4: It's eight twenty four, August twenty fourth, So I showed up

1468
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 4: everybody Mama Day. Guys. Let's set it up for today.

1469
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 4: This is our last day of quadruple header basketball. That's it.

1470
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 4: No more four games on after today. Tasks well, you

1471
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 4: never know, you never know.

1472
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 6: On Wednesday they could still have we still have one

1473
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 6: if Indiana makes it three to one.

1474
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: Task.

1475
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 4: This is the last day for quad basketball. Task that's it,

1476
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 4: just the last one.

1477
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 6: See, I know, I know you're yearning for a non

1478
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 6: four day. You want to get on the roof, make

1479
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 6: sure your estrops are all cleaned out. But but that

1480
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 6: means less wedgies. Let basketball means as well.

1481
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 4: I'm so upset we had another. There was another one

1482
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 4: yesterday that it's like I think it was Brian Anderson

1483
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 4: was on the call again. I thought he was gonna

1484
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 4: drop the neckline, taster, not in your head, you know

1485
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 4: the shot. There was another one that was very close.

1486
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 4: There's been I think there's been five in watching all

1487
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 4: these games that were like near weggies, so so close.

1488
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 4: But anyway, I think this. I do think the the

1489
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 4: heat sweep them here today. But set up the day.

1490
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 6: First, Well, you said maybe the next a little loose

1491
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 6: on these rims. They went up and checked if it

1492
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 6: was level. Maybe they should measure in between the the

1493
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 6: the backboard and the side of the rim there. Maybe

1494
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 6: it's a little bit bigger down there in Orlando. Yeah,

1495
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 6: So quadruple header starting with Milwaukee Orlando on NBA TV,

1496
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 6: then a triple header on TNT Houston. Okay, see Miami, Indiana,

1497
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 6: Portland and the Lakers. You notice how I mentioned all

1498
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 6: the TV networks. That's what all the ads should have,

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Speaker 6: all the TV networks on them. Let's support the game,

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Speaker 6: let's celebrate the game. Let's not be combative here. My

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Speaker 6: network is better than yours. Your network is better than mine. Anyways,

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Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to the last game of the night

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Speaker 6: Blazers and the Lakers. Damian Lillard after watching Donovan Mitchell

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Speaker 6: and Luka Doncic banging shots home from that same spot

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Speaker 6: on that floor, which is you know, one little quirk

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Speaker 6: of this bubble scenario. This guy's shooting from the same floor.

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Speaker 6: Damian Lillard is out on that floor, trailing the Lakers

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Speaker 6: two to one. He's gonna be giving it all. This

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Speaker 6: is a must win. I don't think they're coming back

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Speaker 6: from three to one. And so this team made the

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Speaker 6: conference finals last year. This would be a huge disappointment

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Speaker 6: if they're out in the first round. And so Lillard

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Speaker 6: is gonna put on somewhat of a show against a

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Speaker 6: very tough Lakers defense. And I say somewhat of a

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Speaker 6: show because you never know what this Lakers defense. They

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Speaker 6: may just decide to take it out of his hands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 6: Clipber, the Blazers were doing some smart maneuvering there, not

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Speaker 6: bringing a pick at times, So you're just playing one

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Speaker 6: on one out there, unless you're bringing a double from

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Speaker 6: fifteen feet away, and then you're playing four on three.

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Speaker 6: So there will be some dancing tonight.

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Speaker 4: All right. A couple of good games there, big games,

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Speaker 4: like you said, I mean, you're either tying up series

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 4: here in some of those or it's three to one

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Speaker 4: and it's for the most part of rap I don't

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Speaker 4: think a lot of us will be picking. A lot

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Speaker 4: of these teams come back from three to one, so

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Speaker 4: we'll see and whether or not the Pacers can stay alive. Doubtful. Lee,

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Speaker 4: what do you think you think the heat on this

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Speaker 4: in a sweep?

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 7: They've been too good and they've just controlled this series.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I think the hate in four?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Trey, what do you have a final prediction on

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Speaker 4: that one? What do you think for give me the brooms?

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Speaker 4: How many fish you're gonna catch that? Give me that prediction?

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Speaker 2: Also four?

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Speaker 4: All right? Throw it up. I love it, guys. Emails

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1544
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 4: We really really appreciate it. Let's call it there. That

1545
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,479
Speaker 4: was a long one. We had a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up,

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Speaker 2: love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us, folks, and remember Alvin Gentry living

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Speaker 6: up to his name. Gent three thanks for the pun,

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Speaker 6: Edward Marshall in the comments, I've never ever missed a pun.

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Speaker 3: Don't you ever say I missed a punt? Edward Marshall.

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 4: Embrace the debut. You could stay every day.

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Speaker 1: And daddy happy every minute.

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01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 4: It's been so long that you're the fun A wait for.

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Speaker 3: It's happened already.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be groovy.