WEBVTT - Timbaland

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<v Speaker 1>That was a hit, and I ain't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>With one minute, man, you will put this out, Jim

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<v Speaker 2>you crazy, This is jam all my girl.

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<v Speaker 1>The girl's gonna cray. I'm like, yeah, I bet that

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<v Speaker 1>with girl what going crazy? Hell died. We didn't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>but then what it blew up? I said that girl, missus.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows that from that point on you never questioned anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like Game of Thrones.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, my Queen, all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

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<v Speaker 3>bat price, want to Slice, got the brother of Geist

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<v Speaker 3>Swatt all my life. I'p be grinding all my life,

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<v Speaker 3>all my life, and grinding all my life, sacrifice hustle,

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<v Speaker 3>bat to Price, Wan Slice, got the brother of Geist

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<v Speaker 3>Swash all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been grinding all my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Shay Shay. I

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<v Speaker 2>am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of

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<v Speaker 2>Club sha Shay. And the guy that's stopping by for

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and a drink today is a global icon. He

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<v Speaker 2>has more top ten hits than Elvis and the Beatles,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one Grammy nominations, four wins, a DJ superduce. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a rapper, songwriter, executive entrepreneur, the emperor of sound,

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<v Speaker 2>none other than Tim Land.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim, what's up right? I'm blessed? How you doing? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what? Brother?

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<v Speaker 2>When you come on the show and I have someone

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<v Speaker 2>to distinguished it yourself, I got to told your career

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<v Speaker 2>and more things to come appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm got your mom with those out there you are

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<v Speaker 4>conyac drink this rame here Ooh that shame shame.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. Shame. Yes, thanks for stopping by. How

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? I'm great, man, I'm blessed. I'm blessed. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to the beginning. I wanna go start

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<v Speaker 2>back when you go all the way back to Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading your story. You have a man, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a very interesting life, and you accomplished some great things.

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<v Speaker 2>But this almost didn't happen at sidently got shot working

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<v Speaker 2>at Red Lobster. What transpired? How did this event come about?

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid who always just loved music, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>growing from the South. As I look back at it now,

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<v Speaker 2>we really wasn't you know my parents God bless him,

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<v Speaker 2>but we really wasn't taught, you know, like we can

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<v Speaker 2>go higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. I was just a kid who always dreamed so big,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I gotta this music thing is just

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<v Speaker 1>on my heart. So even when I got shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I still it's just it's just something I had to

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<v Speaker 2>do as a kid, as that was my calling because

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<v Speaker 2>I was a dishwasher working at Red Lobster and music

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<v Speaker 2>just called me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get shot of the dishwasher, you in

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<v Speaker 1>the back. That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, how were young and my own boy

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<v Speaker 2>had a gun. He said, Yo, I'm gonna get your

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get your boy. I'm gonna get your boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Waits.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the craziest thing. We It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>promo for a fight. And high school kids like, wait

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<v Speaker 2>to the football game. I'm gonna get you. You could

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<v Speaker 2>have been for it, right, but they waited. They built

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<v Speaker 2>this up. So my whole boy grabbed a removal and

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<v Speaker 2>he was putting up in the bag. He said, wait

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<v Speaker 2>till the night's game. And as he was putting up

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<v Speaker 2>in the bag, he said, I said, man, And I

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<v Speaker 2>was turning around the clock out and I turned around,

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<v Speaker 2>pow and I walked off, and I thought my arm

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<v Speaker 2>was on the ground and I said.

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<v Speaker 1>What my arm mad? One my arm? I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>my arm on my arm, and what happened? My whole

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<v Speaker 1>nerve this side got paralyzed.

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<v Speaker 2>It was paralyzed for like about a year, two years, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to go to therapy. But I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing I was thinking about how much DJ so.

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<v Speaker 1>As you as you're bleeding, what's going through your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>You're thinking like, man, man damn, I asked the dude

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally shot me. I got so much of it because,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, you had dream big. Yeah, I got dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to fulfill what's going through your mind. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't DJ no more.

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<v Speaker 2>My arm ain't working, so I said, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>figure this out.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So I wasn't thinking about even dying. Okay. You

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<v Speaker 1>know my parents, that's one thing. They stood.

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<v Speaker 2>They stood strong, and the doctors was like telling them,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I know, I'm gonna live.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the attitude, because I felt like God wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>finished with me yet, right, And the only thing I

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<v Speaker 2>was really concerned about was could I use his arm again?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it was my my scratch DJ hand I could

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<v Speaker 2>and that was the only thing I was worried about

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<v Speaker 2>as life went on. I'm like, wait, man, can I

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<v Speaker 2>live weights?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I train?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I do all of that? But I just constantly believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was my faith that knowing I would

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<v Speaker 2>get better, you know what I'm saying. And you see

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<v Speaker 2>what's transfired in the rap community. We see pop smoke

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<v Speaker 2>get run down on. We see what happened to Dolf,

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<v Speaker 2>Young Dolph, We see some extension, We see some of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that have lost their life. Do you look

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<v Speaker 2>back and say, damn, man, I'm very fortunate because this

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<v Speaker 2>thing could have really ended. My life could have ended.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget the DJ and in what I became, but my

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<v Speaker 1>life could have ended before it got started.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny, like I'm glad you're asking that because I

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<v Speaker 2>think I go through some PTSD over that to this day,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you look at all the young people dying today,

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<v Speaker 2>I just break down and thank God and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what is my purpose while am I here? Because I

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<v Speaker 2>do have like some nightmares of that gun going off,

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<v Speaker 2>and I still like I might you might see me

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<v Speaker 2>jerk a little bit because it's just a flashback, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it didn't come as my career was going.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes like now as you become older, has it

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<v Speaker 2>become a man come reflective exactly? And it really like

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<v Speaker 2>I see why people like sometimes go crazy because.

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<v Speaker 1>The past catch up with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I kind of relive it here and

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<v Speaker 2>there and I just rethinkful and this just be that's

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<v Speaker 2>all you can be. But it do put me down

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, I could not have been here, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when I hear when like young dolphin people and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a gunshot is a gunshot. I got shot right

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<v Speaker 2>in the neck. All I had to do is turn

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<v Speaker 2>one simple way I'd have been out of here. But

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<v Speaker 2>by me turning slight, it goes through here and the

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<v Speaker 2>bullets still in me and they couldn't take it out

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<v Speaker 2>because they're afraid. They never paralyzed the whole right side.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just think about you know now, just be

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<v Speaker 2>like it all hit me just driving in the car

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<v Speaker 2>and I just thank God that I'm still here, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, a lot of guys like like Lebron,

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<v Speaker 2>all he said all he thought about was playing basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also a two sport guys played football also,

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<v Speaker 2>but basketball since his mom gave me. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>was like four years old game that basketball and you

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<v Speaker 2>hear baseball players say since my dad gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>bat and a glove, and it was all about baseball

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<v Speaker 2>and guys with football. With you, you always had a

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<v Speaker 2>beat in your head that you was like, man, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what I want to do. This is what did

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<v Speaker 2>you know? Like, Okay, I'm gonna be a DJ, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a producer. So what was it? I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I was gonna be. I would just let

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<v Speaker 2>music guide me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was a great DJ in high school until

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<v Speaker 2>Missy came into my life. That's when she told me

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<v Speaker 2>that I was a great producer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Missy gave me all the confidence in the world and

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<v Speaker 2>she pushed me to be who I am today. If

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't for her, the connection of friends meeting friends

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<v Speaker 2>from the neighborhood, like minded people connecting us, and Missy

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I was the only reason why I start

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<v Speaker 2>doing beats is because the music that people was making

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't like and I wanted to blend my beats

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<v Speaker 2>with like Stephanie Mills or Michael Jackson human nature.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my mom couldn't afford a keyboard. She she

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<v Speaker 1>brought me this Cassio keyboard and on the consample for

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<v Speaker 1>one second, and I started, I said, what can I

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<v Speaker 1>do a one second? I was like, I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if I speed to wreck.

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<v Speaker 2>It up this way with my hand, not on the

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<v Speaker 2>forty five when you click it up. I so I

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<v Speaker 2>sped it up real fast on that and slowed it

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<v Speaker 2>down the last key. So I slowed down time. So

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<v Speaker 2>how did you, I mean, how did you know to

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<v Speaker 2>do that? I mean no, I mean you you self taught.

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<v Speaker 1>No one. It's not like you you classically trained, or

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<v Speaker 1>you went to Juilliard or you went to some of

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<v Speaker 1>these super producers that could tell you this. You your

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<v Speaker 1>self taught. I just now realized that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like, if there's a will, there's a way,

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<v Speaker 2>because like I wasn't smart in school.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like looking at people. I didn't get that answer.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, from my I believe that I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I had a dyslexia.

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<v Speaker 2>Like but I feel like I got to use my

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<v Speaker 2>imperfection to be perfection. So me not being self taught,

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<v Speaker 2>it just caught figuring it out, solving the problem. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I get one second? My mom can't afford

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<v Speaker 2>to buy another keyboard. I got to do this music.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just sat there for weeks, in weeks, maybe months, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, ah, let me slow up time.

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<v Speaker 2>Speed it up, speed up one thing, Slow down there, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>slow down the other. I'm looking at you, look at

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<v Speaker 2>for rail walls, Missi of a cliff, push your t

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<v Speaker 2>All of you guys are Virginia. I mean, did you realize,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you're going through what you're going through and

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<v Speaker 2>you look back, say, twenty five years ago, thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>did you realize you guys will be now for real?

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<v Speaker 2>Wings We know what he is in the music, super producer.

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<v Speaker 2>Also now he's the creative director at Louis Vuitton. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you know that you guys would be what you became?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew Pharrell would have been great, Okay, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>Missy was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew we had something special. I knew all of

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<v Speaker 2>us had something special. I didn't know it would go

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<v Speaker 2>to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I just know that New York was like the bubbling state,

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<v Speaker 2>and we wanted to be heard from Virginia and people.

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<v Speaker 2>People was like yo, that Timberland sound. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>I was creating the sound we didn't know he was

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<v Speaker 2>creating the sound. Parrell didn't know he was creating the sound.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just like minded people, just doing great music.

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<v Speaker 2>And Teddy got a hold of Pharrell first, and Teddy

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<v Speaker 2>so Pharrell was the first one to really venture off

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<v Speaker 2>and really understood the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>And that real limelight. And then it was me and

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<v Speaker 1>Missy and.

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<v Speaker 2>Pharrell kept telling like Teddy like, yo, it's his other group,

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<v Speaker 2>it's this other guy named Timberland and Missy Elliott that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess Missy came up to the studio with

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<v Speaker 2>Teddy so she heard, you know. And Teddy was doing

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<v Speaker 2>this thing with Michael Jackson. Parell was helping out. But

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<v Speaker 2>we all kind of knew that we was destined to

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<v Speaker 2>be something. We just didn't know what it was and

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<v Speaker 2>to think about. We didn't think like that. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people today get caught up into the money to

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. We didn't think like that. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the getting better to be proven, to say we made it.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta put us at the table, give us a

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<v Speaker 2>seat at the table, because you know, New York had

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<v Speaker 2>it popping kid Capri all this and want no music

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<v Speaker 2>come out out of Virginia. So our purpose was give

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<v Speaker 2>us a seat at the table. We deserved that, we

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<v Speaker 2>deserved to be hurt. It wasn't about making a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money. It wasn't about we just know that we

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<v Speaker 2>had something special right and it needed to be hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>and we stuck to it. We didn't like we made

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<v Speaker 2>ways out of no ways, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We rolled in one.

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<v Speaker 2>Car, six people, you know what I'm saying, to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a studio session, everybody chipping for gas money, And

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<v Speaker 2>it was the love of the music that kept us,

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<v Speaker 2>that kept us going to know that we didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>no money.

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<v Speaker 1>Music made us fell rich.

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<v Speaker 2>So you wanted to put you wanted Virginia to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the map for music. You got your has great athletes,

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<v Speaker 2>you got Alan Irison, Bruce Smith, I mean, Michael Vick,

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<v Speaker 2>sweet Peete Whittaker. So you had we had some pantheon

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<v Speaker 2>iconic athletes. And then like, but we ain't got no music.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's put Virginia on the map for music. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess Pharrell was the first one to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of bust down the door. That then came Missy, and

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<v Speaker 2>Missy came with like, uh that Gina Thompson.

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<v Speaker 1>He he he hih.

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<v Speaker 2>Then everybody like, who is this girl? Then from there

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<v Speaker 2>came she. She put me on, so I was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of her. And then when we left Jodasy, we

0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.800
<v Speaker 2>was with Joashy at one time, and then we left

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<v Speaker 2>Jodasy and we had this song called Sugar and Spice,

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<v Speaker 2>me and Missy and that song got to Creg Carmon

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<v Speaker 2>what you got to a lib? And Liia said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like the words, I don't like the song Sugar

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<v Speaker 2>and Spice, but I want to work with the people

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<v Speaker 2>who did that. I want to work with the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who did the beat and whoever wrote the song. And

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<v Speaker 2>from that point on, Virginia sound was on the map.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you and Missy get started? Were you friends

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<v Speaker 2>before she heard your beats? Did you guys go to school?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to rival schools? How did Missy and

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<v Speaker 2>Timberland come to be? Missy and Timberland came to be

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<v Speaker 2>because of a friend of mine named I think Melvin

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<v Speaker 2>Nouir was Magoo, That'sgoo Magoo's from Portsmouth. Melvin knew Missy

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<v Speaker 2>and then this guy named E was working with Missy well,

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<v Speaker 2>working with the group.

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<v Speaker 1>Missy was in a group called Phase.

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<v Speaker 2>They the first one that put out a record from Virginia,

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<v Speaker 2>so they was like the top now.

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<v Speaker 1>So then Missy and E connected.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, Yo, you need to meet this guy named Timberland,

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<v Speaker 2>and he connected.

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<v Speaker 1>Us and came to my mom house when I stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in Virginia Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Missy I had I had was doing just beats, like

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<v Speaker 2>for the play to mix with, but Missy hurt the

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<v Speaker 2>beats and like, now I'm about to sing over this.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the first time I got introduced to

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<v Speaker 2>singing over hip hop beats was through Missy.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know nothing about it. I'm like, you're about

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<v Speaker 1>to do? What? What? And she put them harmonies life change.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my goodness, this is what I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>She just kept like giving me the encouragement, like how

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<v Speaker 2>dope you was, because then I just stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of stopped DJing and I started focusing on beats.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, because she introduced me to melodies, harmonies,

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<v Speaker 2>you can write songs.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to just rap on these beats. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna write songs.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was sampling old patrise Russians and making them

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<v Speaker 2>like dope break beats and she's like, oh, we're about

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<v Speaker 2>to make this a song, and she started singing and writing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like it was the first it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like what I was doing elevated to the next level, right,

0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:38.959
<v Speaker 2>And she gave you confidence that you could do something

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<v Speaker 2>more than DJ. She gave you confidence more than you

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<v Speaker 2>can just produce beats because a lot of times someone

0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.280
<v Speaker 2>of Missy, she's like, well, let me go get a

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<v Speaker 2>more famous producer. She took the local kid from Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>and says, Nah, we gonna do this together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving and I'm taking you with me. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Davonte, they met, They met Josy at a concert her

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<v Speaker 2>they met him backstage. Davante said, y'all want to fly

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<v Speaker 2>y'all out to Jersey and then Missy said, well, can

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<v Speaker 2>we fly my producer.

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<v Speaker 1>That I got back home? And that was me right?

0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.960
<v Speaker 1>But you want a producers he said yeah, So she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go to the vantage. He said, I got my own.

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<v Speaker 1>We got our own. So that's how it was. How

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<v Speaker 1>much pressure is that? Because that's Missy? She said? And

0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.000
<v Speaker 1>they say, well, we got this producer for you. She said, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got my producer back home. So now this

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<v Speaker 1>is your opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in the eminem song, you get one shot

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<v Speaker 2>to seize this moment. So now that's a lot of pressure.

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<v Speaker 5>It was, but I won't scared of it because we

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<v Speaker 5>had a sound, right, and Davonte liked them for my sound, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And so by him being as great as he is,

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<v Speaker 5>he knew he came in the game.

0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.880
<v Speaker 2>With a sound with his group, right, So I thank

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<v Speaker 2>god that he was like, yo, all right, he can

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<v Speaker 2>come up, because I want to meet that guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. And so it kind of worked because I

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<v Speaker 2>learned from him, he learned from me. We both were young,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like a teenager when he was in

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<v Speaker 2>his twenties. So he was doing his style and I

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<v Speaker 2>was learning from him because he was taking He took

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<v Speaker 2>harmonies and vocals and taught me and Missy how to

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<v Speaker 2>really like really expand it. And then my beats was

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<v Speaker 2>like different for him. So he was like, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>good at slow song timbo, good at up tempos and men.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a perfect marriage. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you saying that this guy took you and says, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I do, this is what you do,

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<v Speaker 2>and we mixed together, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to me back then you saw a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Is that commonplace now in the game, that

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<v Speaker 1>guys are willing to work and bring someone else along

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<v Speaker 1>or is that a forgotten art?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a forgotten I think now we have more

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<v Speaker 2>gatherings than we ever had, because because right now when

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<v Speaker 2>I go in to the studio, now everything is on

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<v Speaker 2>a computer. Okay, so what I have witness and this gentleman,

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<v Speaker 2>is you good at it? He's good at it? She

0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.200
<v Speaker 2>good at it. We put up one computer. Everybody's coming

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<v Speaker 2>after each other and add to the same thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, wow, look how collaboration has ebon.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's just everybody sitting. Everybody know how to work

0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the computer. Everybody work on the same thing, right, So

0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody explained, it explays displays they.

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<v Speaker 2>Gift on the computer. And so now it's more it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of more collaborative collaborating today than I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was in our era. Now, Missy the album you're

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<v Speaker 2>on us, and she's like, okay, I got my producer

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<v Speaker 2>team Okay, you're you're in the studio, you're working on this, Like, are.

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<v Speaker 1>You thinking like man, we about to blow? Or you're like, damn.

0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Anxiousness, nervousness, what's going what's going through your head when

0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.720
<v Speaker 2>you're in when you're in the studio with Missy and

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are gonna come out with this album?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you know what's going through my heads? I got

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<v Speaker 1>a job, Okay, I got a Okay, I'm popping now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because all I wanted was three thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to help my mama and my parents.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's you know what I'm saying. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>you want it. Yeah, that's how that's where we come from,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And I look back at it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, wow, those were the good old days of life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, not wanting much and taking

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<v Speaker 2>little and making it so much, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was just happy that we got what we wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't no pressure on the first album because it

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<v Speaker 1>was all fun. It was all the rain. That was

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<v Speaker 1>all they show the people what we got.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that first album, there's no pressure, no pressure, it

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<v Speaker 2>blows up.

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<v Speaker 1>The second album, Now, let's talk about that. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>Missy took me through. The Ringer miss it would make well,

0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.760
<v Speaker 1>she always kind of did. But here's what she said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my sophomore album.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's like, we gotta beat what we did. So

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<v Speaker 2>she was always like a drill sergeant.

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<v Speaker 1>She would make me go through one hundred beats before

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<v Speaker 1>she picked one and she'd be like, Tim, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be dope for jay Z or Ludicris, but I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>dance to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta see the video. I gotta see how my

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<v Speaker 2>girls gonna look. So she gave me this whole story.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, it made me look at my

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<v Speaker 2>beats different. I was like, so I started like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just how the girl's gonna dance tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this sound is she gonna she go? So she

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, Missy took you know, she'll make you

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<v Speaker 1>put you up here and she'll bring you down.

0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.439
<v Speaker 2>But that's part of being great. You know everything that

0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.360
<v Speaker 2>we go through, like when we get our professional job.

0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Once you go on the door, you know everybody, Lebron.

0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.320
<v Speaker 2>You gotta know how to play with Lebron. And once

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<v Speaker 2>you get on the team, you better know how to play.

0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.919
<v Speaker 2>So Missy like, now we're on this team, let me

0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.600
<v Speaker 2>show you what miss is really about. The fun is over.

0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Now this the Missy that now that I'm in the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what miss if you don't you boy, tam, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how we rock rock that way? Tim, So she

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<v Speaker 1>said stuff like that. She a girl, And every time

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<v Speaker 1>she told me, I'd be like my sister, right, why

0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you just you take me high?

0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Your brain me load, you take behind. But I enjoy

0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that because it made me who I am today. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would have all these jay Z records,

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<v Speaker 2>all the hits that I have if I just settle.

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<v Speaker 2>She made me not settle. We can be hotter too,

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<v Speaker 2>We can be dope.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you, I mean you look at it. I mean,

0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:27.440
<v Speaker 1>get your freak on it working.

0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.199
<v Speaker 2>And her songs are so catchy and it's so you

0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.520
<v Speaker 2>know you dance and and the thing was in the

0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.600
<v Speaker 2>videos was so futuristic even.

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<v Speaker 1>For way back then. I mean, she was way way

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of her time as far as videos.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, that's like, I mean, do you sit

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<v Speaker 2>back and like.

0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I do it all the time. I'd be like, I'd

0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:55.080
<v Speaker 1>be like people are around me, like, you know that's dope.

0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:56.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like you get that head nod. You know, you

0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:00.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. We do. Yeah. And when she cause.

0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 2>She bring it to life, right, she takes something that

0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I present to her and she.

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.919
<v Speaker 1>Just said, watch how I make this blossom? Right, And

0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 1>she just make it blossom. And I'd be like, I'll

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.440
<v Speaker 1>just be smiling in the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know how to show it on the outside,

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<v Speaker 2>but inside I'll be saying all what you're saying. When

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<v Speaker 2>when you first met Missy and you looking at this,

0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:26.920
<v Speaker 2>she's very small in stature, but her presence is like commanding.

0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 2>She's a She demands that you look at her. She

0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.920
<v Speaker 2>demands that you pay attention to her. Did you think

0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 2>this small, small of a woman could be? And what

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.840
<v Speaker 2>she became? And now as far as songwriting, she's in

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the Songwriting Hall of Fame. She's got a star on

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That that's my girl. That's

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 2>my Homide from BA Missy is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is it? What's is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oprah from Color Purple? Yeah, that's who Missy is. Like

0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Missy is She's just sink. She comes from a single

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:05.360
<v Speaker 2>mom Missy. She always had leadership in her. So when

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 2>a person has leadership, it just.

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't matter how they lead you. And Missy was always

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a great leader. So I'm not surprised of how big

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>she was because you couldn't just come nobody, I don't

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 1>care who you are, you can't just say anything Missy.

0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Missy she gonna challenge you. She gonna challenge you. And

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<v Speaker 2>that was a va thanks you like you're like, oh,

0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Missy was on top of the moon. You can go

0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 2>on the top of the moon. Missy Ellen ain't going

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<v Speaker 2>on top.

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<v Speaker 1>And people be like, you know, you know how this

0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:38.720
<v Speaker 1>this world is entertained, Oh you should, No, that's not

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:42.399
<v Speaker 1>what master own beat. She really sticks to how he

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 1>was raised in the South, and she don't.

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.600
<v Speaker 2>She don't bend the ruge. Other people could be going

0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 2>over there, Missy. Missy ain't going over there. She's very stern,

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>very on point.

0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>She has sheer will and she's gonna do what she

0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>says she's gonna do. So she always had that leadership.

0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I always my my about because when

0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I broke character, she always stayed in character. So I'm like, man,

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:08.679
<v Speaker 1>she's amazing this this beats.

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.119
<v Speaker 2>These beats obviously at the height of reporter that you

0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 2>was getting five hundred thousand. Have you ever had to

0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 2>tell someone, bro, I can't let you get on this one.

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately nobody from our generation I had to do that.

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 2>But as I started working with the new generation, I

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 2>don't say they was bad. I think my ears. I

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 2>think I got old real you know what I'm saying.

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.639
<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, oh, this bit like price is kick it

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 2>is because I'm like, because music evolves, but when it

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.119
<v Speaker 2>was evolving, I stopped evolving, right.

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 1>So when a person got on it, I was like,

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the hell is you saying? Like you off the beat? Right?

0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:01.160
<v Speaker 2>So I had to start adjusting because I got kided, like, no, dad,

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 2>that's popping. I'm saying, hen you on the beat man,

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 2>that's not popping.

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Right. Then I started saying, okay, music, don't let me down,

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.120
<v Speaker 1>because you you you you level it up. You leveled up.

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 2>So I was a person who changed people's perspective of

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 2>putting animals in music. So I got to accept the

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 2>new rhythm of the youth. So I started to listening

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 2>to it. I'm like, wow, that's what's hot now? Yeah,

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 2>And it started, It started hitting me different, and I'm like, oh,

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I get it right. But when I first walked in

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the door, it threw me off. And that's what I

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>had to say, Bro, you can't have this beat. Before

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I say that, I went to my my son and

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, before I go.

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Left, it's just dope, that's crazy. I'm like, Okay, I

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>got to go back to school. I got I have,

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I have age. I have gotten too comfortable with what

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I've always been doing and not looking that it can evolve.

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 2>There's another Timberland come around the door. There's another person

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 2>coming around. When all these tags coming out, I was like,

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't prepared for all that. I wasn't prepared for all,

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, the new generation of digital. But I should

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 2>have known it was coming because we had protubs and

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>so I should have known that everything is going to

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:17.879
<v Speaker 2>be switched over to a laptop. I was one of

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:22.640
<v Speaker 2>those guys to say, oh, that ain't music when Ableton

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:26.360
<v Speaker 2>came out and people started playing on a pad, piano

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>on a pad, and.

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Then I had to say, yo, that's not a piano.

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 2>And it really kind of like that really like took

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 2>me down, Like I had a load because I felt

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 2>like I'm so on point, but I let I kind

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 2>of like let life kind of get in the way,

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>which kind of steer me to another road where I

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of.

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Let music evolve above me.

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 2>So when that happened, when I got with the new generation,

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I had to really like take a deep dive and say, wait, manute,

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 2>what's going on here?

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever get and it doesn't seem like this happened?

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Get high of your own supply, Like you have all

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 2>these number one hints and they're coming out and coming

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 2>and coming, and people come to you atim I need you, nah,

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 2>but I don't need you. Did you tell anybody did

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 2>you like? And look back at it, said, man, I

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have done that. Yes, I've done That's all that.

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 2>What I just told you based down to that to say,

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they're doing. They can't take a

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 2>timbo beat, they can't do this, and not understanding it

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 2>that they grew up to my music right and just

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.719
<v Speaker 2>it's bigger than me. And I had to really just

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>do a deep dive into self reflection and be like

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I changed the game.

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Who am I? Who are you? These kids look up

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 1>to you?

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>If their favorite song was Crimeme and Ribber and it's

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 2>like I started to like just really like have talked

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 2>to my really my children, you know, because they're younger.

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, they said, you dope, you just got

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 2>to like music. Can't what you what y'all used to do? Right,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>And when they started saying that, I'm like, oh man,

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 2>we turned the corner. So then I started saying, oh, okay,

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 2>this is dope.

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>This is dope.

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 2>And I started getting more active and more in it

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 2>than now, like I'm all the way in it now.

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>But it took.

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>It took some time because I had to come down right.

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I was too high on my ego. It was like

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 2>a coach, this is my system, this is what I run.

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 2>But the players that you have in that system might

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 2>not be good for that system. What you were used

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>to you were great at that. Now these players now

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>might not be great at that. So now let me

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>evolve the system to fit today's players.

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.919
<v Speaker 1>Just like basketball, I don't know half of the players.

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>So it evolved, it evolved. You know how many stars

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>like that. We're creating new stars.

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 2>So when you watch it, Basketball said, do you know

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 2>what I went to the basketball game? I'm looking at

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 2>it like, it's just like music. I don't know nobody,

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they three point game. I ain't

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 2>never seen this before. I ain't never seen this before.

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 2>So that's what music is.

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>It evolves.

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Our children get better than what we were. They take

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it to the next level. And I never understood that

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 2>because I got too caught up in my own horses.

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>So how did the world did you?

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Like, Man, I want to work with this artist, you

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 2>reach out or they reach out to you, said a team.

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 2>We heard you beat, we heard what you did with Missy,

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 2>we heard what you did with Jay, we heard what

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 2>you did with JT. Can you work with us or

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>did you wait for them to come to you or

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>did you go to them? Well, it's been a time

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 2>where I when I was on that I thought people

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 2>would come to me. Boy, I realized that there's a

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of people they're like, man, do we go to this?

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>We go to that? Because they had a sound.

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>So that kind of ended quick because a lot of

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 2>young people that once I understood and my ear got more,

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>got corrected back again.

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>So I started reaching.

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Out to people that I you know, these new artists

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 2>and saying, hey, I want to work with you. Because

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 2>I admire what they was doing and it was like

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 2>me surrendering to music, like I'm a student all over again.

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I know I'm a coach, but I want to be

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I want to be Steve Caller.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to be that coach of field. I want

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to be go down in history like I got my squad,

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I got a team.

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm maybe not the guy. I understand my role and

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I tell a lot of people, understand who you are,

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 2>in your in your strengths and weakness, and I know

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>my strength is guiding people. Yeah, I could do dope beats.

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 2>But as I started to understand what music was taking me.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Now is in that Quincy Jones moment. And it's like

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>when Quincy did Thriller, he had a twenty five year

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 2>old he's fifty, but Quincy grabbed that person, got Rob Timpleton,

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 2>he grabbed the drummer, he grabbed all these people and

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 2>made an incredible album. And I said, that's what I

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>have to do with the future of music. So now

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I reach out to people and tell and people that's

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>not even big that I see the guy talent. Yeah,

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 2>I noticed that because that's the future, that's the world

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>that they gonna you know, everybody can.

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Be everybody can jump on somebody that's hot.

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you want to get the guy that nobody knows,

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>give him a beat, guide him and then make it

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>and beat and make him or her become Yeah, because

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to be the guy. Like when I say something,

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>not saying to take my word, just give it a

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to.

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Me, right, you know, it's like buying to your product.

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I say, it's hey, Shanny got the best train,

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>So if you put out another one, I'm going to

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Shannon because Shannon, no, his case is amazing. Right.

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's like I want people to understand when I

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>when I say music, pay attention and it's happening. Like

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I put I posted this French You guy y'all mad

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>and he said yo. He called me and said now

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>the label was trying to sign me, And I'm like, well,

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 2>they ain't trying to sign you before that. You was

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>dope before, just singing on a cappella. So what I

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of do is like the showcase, what's coming after,

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>what's already popping today? And I just it gives me

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>joy because it makes me feel like I'm nineteen again

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>when I first got in music and when I first

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.959
<v Speaker 2>when MISSI came to me. But now I'm like, I

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 2>created this legendary brand of Timerland being the legend. So

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I like reaching out to people to show that I'm

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>paying attention to your art.

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>You already know my art, but I'm scouting.

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>You out like it's like me creating a team, like

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to build, Like, okay, these are my these

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 2>are my starter back that's my dad. Yeah, I said, oh,

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 2>we need to we need a front runner. We need

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 2>to go take it to the to yad line. So

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I look at it like that. It's like plays now,

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>like it's getting the best of the best and creating.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>And I was thinking about doing an album like that.

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I's trying to figure it out because I don't want

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 2>to do the typical album of getting everybody. I want

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>to take raw talent and show people that you know,

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 2>because all music is about a song.

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not really about the so much of the artist.

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>No more like we have one hundred songs uploaded every

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>day on Spotify. So with that being said, I just

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>want to have to curate the best songs of today

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.719
<v Speaker 1>with new people whove on your mount rushmore producers all

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the time, who Teddy Riley, okay, Quincy Jones, doctor Dre

0:30:54.200 --> 0:31:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Pete Rock. I mean, is that that far? That's it.

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>That's unless you're gonna do a new go back and

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>he's on the four. That's it, old heads on my rushmore.

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me damn you want the octopus, try

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to spend the website shore to pick the fourth.

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 2>P on right if Teddy Riley, doctor Dre, Quincy Jones,

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Pete Rock, I said Pete Rock because he was the

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>guy who kind of had he was he was the

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>first that kind of like took over the airways with

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>all the remix with Docson facts.

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Then he had then that like he had the good Yeah.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>But then and then and then it's then it's hard

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>because I wanted okay, if I had to.

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Dang, I can't just forget for me m and dealer. See,

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm stuck. We're gonna have to have three. The four

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>one is up for toss up. Like I gotta go back.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>And I think the thing is when you go when

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 2>you say doctor dre and Quincy Jones, those two got

0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 2>to be there. It got to be there. They got

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 2>to be there. Now we can we can debate the

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>other two, but you can't have a producer Matt Rushmore

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>without Dre and without Quinns, you cannot. You cannot, Okay, JT.

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>How did the relationship with you and j T? Justin

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Timberlake come Alut? Justin always he liked my he liked

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>what me and Missy did. And I met him when

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 2>he was fifteen at a studio and he was like, hey, man,

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to work with.

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>You and blah blah blah. Was he still in the

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>group or what ye he was still in the group.

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>And this was when before Along came out with Alone

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 2>was about that Michael Jacksman No Gone Gone it was

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 2>coming out and this is like right around that time.

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>So he was still in the group, but he was

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 2>about to do a solo album and so he was already.

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Working for real.

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>And then he came and said he remembered like, Yo,

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Wright got with me and said, Yo, just want

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>to work with you. So when we got together, we

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 2>had chemistry because he from Memphis, I'm from Virginia. It's

0:32:58.400 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>like we kind of grew up on the same thing

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 2>and when you kind of like had the same background

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 2>and talk about the same things.

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>And he was alway working for phar Real. I already

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>knew he.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Was gonna click with me, and it was just it

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>was just like a matter of time if he you know,

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>because back then you're fifteen. I don't know if you

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 2>we say one thing, but he really follow up on it,

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 2>like my sound really stuck with him and he had

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>to work with me. I'm the crimea river suit and

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>tie sexy back, thirty million albums sol.

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, did you know he could do this? Oh?

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah. When I first met her, I said, oh,

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>this boy, this white boy cold. Yeah, he's like a

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>better George Bike he was. I was like, yo, he

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>got it.

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>And then when he started dancing out right, I said

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it's over because at that time we haven't seen that,

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>nobody that exactly.

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>So we came in an era where I mean, he

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>can really dance that what Evers was doing and shake

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>it and him. But oh that's one thing. But what

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>he was doing was different with what we were doing exactly,

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh he Then at West starts

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>singing out like, oh he is out of here. When

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the solo, I said, oh, this is Michael Jackson. You

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. The Justified album that was a

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>masterpiece and he when I.

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Did Crime in River, that was like one of the

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>last songs we did. But like the did you know

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 2>that was gonna be a hit?

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you know, like, okay, you got to beat and

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 2>someone is singing over it. Do you know at that

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 2>moment this ish is special? Or do you like, I mean,

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna be good. Or have you had

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 2>a situation where you didn't think, like I think it's

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna be okay and then it blows up, or you

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 2>have one that you think is gonna blow up and

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 2>it don't go anywhere.

0:34:55.080 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of dude, it's a lot of those,

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those because I like all the B

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>side records, you know what I'm saying, But for the

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>ones I knew it was gonna be a hit, Like

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>did I didn't think that was a hit and I

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>ain't think it was gonna be a hit.

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Was one minute, man, I ain't like that song. I

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't like this song. You're gonna put

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 2>this out till you crazy. It's all my girl, the

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 2>girls going crazy.

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I bet that with girl what going crazy?

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Hell no, we didn't like it. You know what I'm saying.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, make light up, like I said, man,

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you gotta put our something, put our visits on the street.

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>God that that wasn't mean. He said. One minute. I

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was like like, and I did that sound b b

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>b B. I said, you like this, it's like nursery rhyme.

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 1>She said, watch and then what she said, boy, I'm

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna make it love. I was like, it's dope, but

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you know it still ain't. It ain't. Did Ludacris Ludicris

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 1>cor and say you don't write this? Boy? You crazy?

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to get on. I'm like, well, I'm gonna

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>stay ten toes down. It's all right, you know what

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's cool. But then when it blew up,

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>I said that girl, missus, she knows. And from that

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 1>point on you never questioned it. It was like, yes,

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>my queen, whatever you like what I'm looking now.

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 2>You see Justin he sold his entire music catalog, and

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 2>we see a lot of artists starting to unload their

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>music catalog. Justin bieber So's Here sold his for two

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>hundred million, ten to Turn and sold us for three

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 2>hundred million. Bruce Bringstein sold Here's for five hundred million.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think guys are artists are starting to

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 2>unload their music catalog? I mean it's a business, you

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like, what's wrong with if somebody

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 2>We don't know if that three hundred million be there tomorrow, right.

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>So what are we holding on to? What are we

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>doing here?

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 2>We work as hard for these moments one of people

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>giving out those type of multiple on a check, you know.

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like it's it's it's all personal preference.

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of people and they say three

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>hundred millions, that's like that's a whole that set up

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>for your family.

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 2>You go buy businesses, you get with certain people and

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 2>then you look at the time they doing. Bruce Springsteen,

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 2>he should have been so but guess what he probably

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 2>got his business plan and what he want to do

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 2>with his money, what he want to do.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Just add on and make sure you got kids. You know.

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's I think it's smart business.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 2>We do we build up this catalog.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Two for to sell.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>But you know I've seen ti I say, is like,

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, different ways of doing it and.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>He is like you or just go ahead and unloaded

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>out right.

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>So it all, it all goes down to what's your

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>what's your business plan? So TI, I just gave somebody

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 2>an individual of another business plan which is not a

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 2>bad business plan, and you just have to go do it.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 2>And some people it works because it's like it's all

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>about you know, we all black, and financial literature is

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>like not good in our community. So to take a

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of money up front, it's like, what t I

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>say is have buen this plane. Don't just take all

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 2>that money just to say I got I sold my count.

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 2>At least have a plane of what you're gonna do

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 2>put that money, because it's a goal. Just like that

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 2>because when you pay tax and you look at it

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>very different.

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>So whatever it was, it happen, and didn't you be

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you hear me. I just got a witness of that.

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait a minute, you took what?

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't have to go sit down. I was like, Yo,

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that's highway robbers, that's that's extortion to get up. I

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, wait a minute, man. So that's why we

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>got to work hard. So it's like you work hard

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>to to not work hard.

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.919
<v Speaker 2>So if you have an opportunity to code financial life

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 2>livelihood for the rest of thirty years of the rest

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 2>of your life, why not take that out, you know

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, because that bank might close. Look at

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 2>what happened with SUV Silicon Valley, right, just think about

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 2>you don't know what can happen in.

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>This correct market versus How did verses come to be? Man,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we was home and during the pandemic, we were.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Just we we know, we know what tomorrow hole. We

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 2>thought it was fun. We reconnected with people that we

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 2>should have been reconnected with. But we live in the

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>world that would move so fast. And I've been saying this.

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:26.879
<v Speaker 2>I told my friends that we at the world shut down.

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, but it actually happened. So that means whatever

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>something somebody say, do.

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Not say that would never happen.

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>You better pay attention when they talk about UFO, pay attention.

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.760
<v Speaker 2>So when the pandemic, it was just me and Switzerland.

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 2>We just had a conversation about just life. We was

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and I was happy to talk to my friend like

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. We was like best of friends until

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 2>we start sharing like our personal story. Instead happened with

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>us what happened to us, what happened with us in life,

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>our personal story.

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>And then I just called him one day. I started antagonizing.

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, all right, what you're gonna do with this beat?

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>And I just started like doing beat battles because we

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 2>did it one time before and TMZ picked it up

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>when I played the Game of Thrones and he was

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 2>We talked about, you know, going at each other, and

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>we did it on Instagram. And then he had we

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 2>had the idea when we did summer jams, like do

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 2>this album where I do Timbo side, he do Swiss side,

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 2>like a versus versus Timbo. And then we tried the

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 2>whole thing out really in Hot ninety seven and the

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 2>summer jam and.

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>It really worked. But you know, everybody was outside, you

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>know when the people outside the world go, they were

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>just doing the most. So I knew technology.

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, once it shut down, I kind of had

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 2>a you know, God put on my heart like technology

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be the new wave. It's gonna come in

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 2>like a storm because we shut down, that's the only

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 2>way to communication. So I called Swiss. I said, man,

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 2>remember that idea. We had three and a half years.

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, the idea we did the vert that would

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 2>battle on each other. Let's let's let's do that here,

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>let's do that on Instagram, Let's do it now.

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And it was I tell you it was.

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>God, you know, moving the universe in the right direction

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 2>to where it was no problem. And I think what

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 2>sparked that up with D Nice. D Nice was djam

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and everybody was on it.

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 1>We was all jamming at D Nice and I was like, man,

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>what can we do, you know, saying to myself and

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I called switch. I'm like, remember you know the idea

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that we had that we did it some some of jail.

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it right here on the ground. He's like

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>when I said right now, he said right now? I said, yeah,

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 2>why not? All right, let's give me an album, get

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 2>my get my set up. And I said, all right,

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 2>i'm'a get my setup. And we when we sparked it off,

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>it was all because of the love. So when we

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>did it, we only had thirty thousand people for people

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 2>ate it, but it spread it and then once it

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 2>spread it, we all came together as a as a

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>team and like we got something here right, And we

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 2>just took control of a situation because I knew to

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.919
<v Speaker 2>really build, like the platform we want to build really

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 2>takes about two years. And the idea when you want

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 2>to get your idea out, you don't got two years,

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Like you need to show the world. Yeah, and so

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 2>we just you know, as we just jumped out and

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>did our thing, and God bless it to where it

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 2>caught on like wildfire. And I thank him because he

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 2>allowed us to know how to follow the lead, because

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 2>some people get that that spark plug and then go

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 2>away from him. But I gotta think Swisch, Swiss is

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 2>a smart businessman. Like soon as we saw it and

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 2>how people was embracing it.

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>He's like, Okay, we gotta call it. We gotta have

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a meet. What are we doing? This is what we're doing.

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, right, we're doing this this. We gotta get

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the trademark. We gotta do this.

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:49.879
<v Speaker 2>And then people was like, oh, he ain't gonna last

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 2>more past the pandemic.

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>But me and Swiss knew that this was the new

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 1>soul train. This was a new phenomenon, right, this was

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>something that's gonna go beyond the pandemic. And we just

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>had to believe because we had haters saying, oh, blah blah,

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. Once he heard what we were doing,

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and then we knew as the culture what I love

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>about the culture, Like they kind of like like a

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>bunch of missies, like they be like that, ain't it that?

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Ain't it? And then you gotta work past that? Ain't

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>it to be? Like then they be on the line, I.

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:22.879
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, I thank you for doing this. You don't

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 2>know how much idea but you was on last week

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>he was.

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Like, why y'all giving me this verse? Why are you? Like?

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, mama auntie, we got you. You know, I

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 2>know you won't corn breadge. I'm gonna go get your

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>but bear with me. So that's how vers it was.

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 2>And it's like we really stood tall on that and

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 2>got past that. And I could tell you another thing.

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 2>It made us feel good to my soul, right, you

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. And to see it get to

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 2>this point to where we're elevating. Now we're getting too

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 2>the real business of it and negotiating certain things.

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>And I just thank God that he allowed a.

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Tool was already in place for us to invent our

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 2>tube that we had, So what can we expect from versus?

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 2>And we see the artists when they did this, the

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 2>album sells a lot of these artists hadn't put out

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 2>music in a very long time, and we see theirselves

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 2>go through the roof everybody go and forget just how

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.720
<v Speaker 2>great the artists were and go back out and purchase

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 2>some of their music and start that all over again.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 2>So what can we expect from Versus moving forward? Man,

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 2>we can expect the same the versus effect, and we

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 2>tell people how real that is, Like we're showing a

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 2>new business versus really a new business show.

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Like catalogs like you said, that never been heard. It's

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>got kids going back listening to it. Right, Versus is

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 1>a tool of the future of not just like rebirth

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>of cauntalog that people might have because we sell them

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the catalog, But how do you get those catalogs to

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:48.919
<v Speaker 1>be heard again? Right?

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Versus is that platform. So what we got going forward

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 2>is we're trying to do bigger Versus. We got we

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 2>got we got a couple lined up. But you know,

0:44:56.400 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 2>like now that everybody outside is scheduling, right, so we're

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 2>working on this capsule. But we got some we got

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 2>some big ones. Okay, I got some battles. I wanted

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 2>you to know, tell me Chris Brown Usha battle Chris

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Brown versus Usher.

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>That's one of our top ten is too. You know

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 1>it can happen. We don't.

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 2>We we know it can happen. It's a matter of

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 2>time because it's good for the culture. And that's a

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:29.359
<v Speaker 2>good one, Doctor Dre Quincy Jones, I see that one.

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>That will kind of be amazing.

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the only one. I mean, can't nobody else

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 2>battle Drake. Can't nobody else battle Doctor Dre. But Quincy

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:40.800
<v Speaker 2>can't know one battle Quincy?

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But Drake. That's it? You think? So who else you

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna throw it? Quincy? Sixty years Quincy was Ain't nobody

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>can battle Quincy, That's what I'm But I'm saying, if

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna throw anything at him, it's got to be Dre.

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>From Sinatra to Ray Charles to Michael Jacks. Lastly, come on, man,

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 1>that's like you you just said Sonata. How do somebody

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.840
<v Speaker 1>come out to Sonata? I don't know, but.

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 2>That I can see that. But are we missing like

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:23.240
<v Speaker 2>what about like gambling huff? Me personally, I ain't battling

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Quincy Jones. That's why I say gambling huff because you

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you went like segments of people from Frank Sinatra.

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 1>The only one that guy like that type of.

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Is gambling huff like people who don't like from the

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 2>style listic's the only way down like it. But I

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 2>do like the Dre comparison. But I'm like, when you

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 2>just said all what he done, I'm like, wait, man, wait.

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>But Dre, I mean, you know, from Dre from Snoop

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the Park in all those that he I mean, so

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting. I want I just want to hear

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>the song.

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I like the playlist of the of the of the two. Yes,

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I think, but you want to get twenty? Now you

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 2>only get twenty. I ain't somebody don't camera come, you know,

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 2>nobody got nobody got to listen to all these music.

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>See.

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Now that's the thing. Like Qutch ain't gonna just go

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 2>for twenty. He said, Man, I gotta go up. Quit's

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna hit us with a series. Yeah, he's gonna be

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 2>like the first series did you joint? You know what

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like, he gonna hit you with a series,

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Like you can't just get him. You can't get twenty, Okay,

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Drake and hold that would be a good one would

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 2>I rather to see hole and nas really yes, So

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 2>if you gotta put some money else So if you

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 2>if you hey, hey, your money, you gotta put a

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 2>meal down.

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Holding nods. I gotta put a meal down either either one. Yeah,

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the winner, I'm gonna have to say, you get five Hondred,

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you get both of y'all are winners. Like that's that's

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>hoving nods O Prince and Michael whooa. So you know

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be.

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 2>It's more difficult than you think because Prince was a

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 2>writer and.

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 1>People forget that. And now I'm about to go on

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 1>your side. I'm on your side with that one. I'm like,

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you probably get mad they see this, but don't you that, Prince.

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>It's said written, composed and produce and composed and produces

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. So when is composed some extra stuff?

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying.

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 1>So like, that's serious, bro.

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 2>So I was thinking like the whole creation of like

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 2>doing that, like because I want to see that. I

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 2>want to I want like people to pick the best

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>from his family twenty and the Jackson family.

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Picked Day twenty. That will be amazing because you know

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:53.600
<v Speaker 1>this technology. Ye, we put the hologram up. Yeah, we're

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna love it. Yes, we're gonna go create the new technolo.

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go cras since we got the hologram, we

0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:01.359
<v Speaker 1>got the technology. Yeah, Tupact, Biggie. You know, that's what

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the world weighing. That's what we're all waiting for. Yeah,

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for it. I wait for it like logs

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and people. To me, it's like, let me be let us,

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>let me. It's sposed to be creative, don't judge it.

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 1>People are like, we don't play with that, don't play

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>with the dead, don't do that.

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I get it. But it's like it's music, right. I

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 2>want to hear the music. I want to know what.

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to relive these memories again.

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:23.800
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I really think the TUPAC

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and Biggie it's necessary, right, And don't I know people

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>are probably gonna be upset. I just think of live too. Yes,

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. You know what I'm saying. I don't.

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who you're gonna put her against. That's

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 2>what I don't know. But she needs to be in

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 2>this conversation Whitney and Mariah that needs to be done.

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I like that.

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Look at that playlist Mariah and Whitney. Do you know

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.799
<v Speaker 2>do you know how they gonna go out the roof?

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's that's that's actually a fut I'll run

0:49:58.160 --> 0:49:59.800
<v Speaker 2>to see that one first for you.

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Not the biggest tube part, but that one, right, because

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 1>that sets a tone. It's it gets the world ready, right,

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 1>it sets a sentimental tone, and it's like.

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Mariah, we gonna cry, We're gonna be emotional, and Mariah

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna bring it because she gonna talk, her talk, and

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:19.720
<v Speaker 2>them songs back to back right, and just us seeing it.

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:23.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, they try these these documentary what I Wanna dance.

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.399
<v Speaker 1>But that's really the I wanna dance with somebody if

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.839
<v Speaker 1>we did a versus I wanna dance what everybody want

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to do? This documentary, Whitney, It's really the verses, like

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>what you just said, Whitney and Mariah Carey, who can

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>we put a dail against? I would love to see

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Adl go really against Alicia again.

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know Alicia did John that that was great,

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 2>she did that one, But I really I would wanna

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>see Alsha again with Adell.

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Mmm I don't know if anybody ever thought about this one?

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 1>What about b and reread? You know, like, who can

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:14.200
<v Speaker 1>we put against be?

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Is there anybody that we can put against Breatha Franklin.

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 1>It can't. It can't mean nobody from her era. No, no,

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:30.840
<v Speaker 1>it can't. She she she she has to a stand alone.

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>It has to be a Reatha Franklin. There has to

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 1>be somebody of some something that's somebody that's here if

0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the legend is here or a legend, it's not She's

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a stand alone.

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Who can we put against Marvin Gaye, the Pendergrass or

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Luther Barry White. I'm trying to think, Sam Cook, I mean,

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 2>who who would you like to see battle?

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Marvin? The name of you just said?

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:05.160
<v Speaker 2>You said you said it like four, I said, I

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 2>started out with Marvin Teddy Teddy p.

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I think Teddy Well, I said, what turn it off?

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:14.840
<v Speaker 1>The likes I'm doing, I'm doing like a Collidge in

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 1>my head. Oh that's a good that's a good playlist.

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Not only that, versus Versus is a curated thing. So

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 2>it's like your curation is act is it's.

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Accurate because I'm looking at playlisting because like you said,

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>were raising catalog. And that's what Switch is great at.

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:37.760
<v Speaker 1>It's curating these playlists and the whole like the versus

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>genre of someone because when people go back and listen

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to the playlist and when you put I ain't know

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:43.840
<v Speaker 1>they had that song, I don't know you do that,

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it's act And now you got more musics to in

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>your car, right you know, Now you're like, oh, the

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>versus is Marvin and Teddy. So now you go on

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>your Apple Music You're like, wow, but Teddy. I mean

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 1>people don't remember this, but Teddy used to have female

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:10.760
<v Speaker 1>only concert. Turn that female only. That's why I say, hmmm,

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:12.879
<v Speaker 1>that's a mean one.

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Aaliyah seeing she's movies. How big would she

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 2>have been had she not tragically lost her life but

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:33.320
<v Speaker 2>she headed to I mean because we see Beyonce Beyonce

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 2>saying the movies. Was she going to be Beyonce before Beyonce?

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it would have probably been this how well,

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:43.959
<v Speaker 2>I think it would have been.

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Four girls? What five Missy Beyonce?

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, like five light top notch girls,

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Missy Beyonce, Aaliyah, Rihanna, it's another girl too, NICKI. I

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 2>think she would have been in those top five. I

0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know if she would have beat or been we

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know that, but she would have been top five.

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Top three, maybe another guy that produced a songwright. I believe.

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 2>You can separate art from an artist. You can say

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 2>what he produced and what he did was unbelievable in

0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:37.439
<v Speaker 2>the art form and be disgusted by what he did

0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 2>as a person. And that's all Kelly.

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes because the depravity and.

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 2>What he did, you like, when you throw everything that

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.640
<v Speaker 2>he's done you artistically away. I don't believe you can

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 2>do that. No, I believe you can separate the two.

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:57.919
<v Speaker 2>Yes you can, I have I agree. I agree talk

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>about Kelly the art artists.

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:05.879
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing to try to downplay or whatever he did

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 1>outside of the music round because we know R. Kelly

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 1>is the king of R and B. We all know

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that man. And it's funny.

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:17.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you talk about that because I'll be having

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:19.880
<v Speaker 2>talked to everybody jump. When he said okay, I'm like,

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:23.359
<v Speaker 2>so we're just gonna ignore his music that he gave

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:25.839
<v Speaker 2>with it, we all jammed to no, we can't do that, right.

0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:27.400
<v Speaker 1>His art is his art.

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna bastard, but he ain't the only one

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 2>that got some things, and it's had some things, got

0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 2>some things in the closet, but we still listen to.

0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:34.360
<v Speaker 1>The music exactly.

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.320
<v Speaker 2>And to me, we have to learn how to I

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:38.960
<v Speaker 2>think as a culture we have to learn how to

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:42.839
<v Speaker 2>separate that. And if I said, okay, who can bottle

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 2>r Kelly, I don't want to see in the comments

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 2>how you gonna have this hype. Don't mix music up

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:53.760
<v Speaker 2>with personal. Music is a feeling that stands alone. Music

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 2>is something that don't have no race, that brings people together.

0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:00.479
<v Speaker 2>They don't have no drama with it. It's a place

0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 2>of enjoyment, of feeling. So don't bring drama into music.

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Leave that outside his art, his his art. I say

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 2>the same thing about a lot of people. You know

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 2>that they're a great artists, but we look at what

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 2>they do on a personal level and try to disqualify

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 2>the art.

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 1>You can't do that.

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at some of the guys, some of the

0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 2>people that you work with, from Rihanna to Beyonce, Ludicrous

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 2>k New, Maria Brandy, Lisia Keys, Ross, Pete Poblo Pastor,

0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Detroit brother Sparks.

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 1>How do you how do you go about with these.

0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at these guys.

0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 2>This is a who's who, and then you go Michael Jackson, Nellifertado,

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Minis Cyrus, Elton John, Shakiro, Katie Perry, Brad Paisley, One Republic, Nickelback, Biscuit,

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Lindsay Lohan, Coldplay, from you all over the math.

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't know. I didn't never you

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 1>said all them, but I just now noticed it.

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I just look at it like my job his music,

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't matter the genre of music and be country,

0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 2>it can be you know, R and B, can be pop.

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I could do whatever because I know I'm gonna bring

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>my swag to it. So to me, it's like another

0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>day at the office. Let's go do it like it's

0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>a challenge. It was a challenge, and like because I'm like,

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>what do y'all want from me? We want you, okay,

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:17.880
<v Speaker 1>well you want a little bit of what you used

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to whip me on top? Just do you you really

0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:27.440
<v Speaker 1>want that? That's what I say, all right, and they

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 1>allow it and we made history. Who you been most

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 1>surprised by that gave you a call and said we

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:42.640
<v Speaker 1>want you Elton John, because I'm like Elton me. But

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I had an idea when I got in the studio.

0:57:44.840 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want you to say, I just

0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 1>want you to play, and I'm gonna put a choir

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>around your playing. Okay. So he was like, so what

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 1>are you going to play? Whatever? Go So you tell

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Elton John to just play, You're gonna put something around him?

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that normally what you do? Or do they ask

0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 1>for the like okay, this this is what I have. Okay,

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 1>how do you enhance it? Well?

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, I came Elton John was following

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 2>my lead because he's like the he's the He's the goat,

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 2>and I'm young timbo. I had this vision, so it

0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 2>was like he was following my lead. You know what

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:24.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, because it wasn't what I guess he was

0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:27.439
<v Speaker 2>used to working with. But I knew who Elton John

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 2>and his talent, and I knew I was My favorite

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 2>song was Been in the Jet. Yeah, like and I

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 2>knew at all and I was like love all his music.

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's like I just wanted to play. I don't

0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 1>want to sing because I don't.

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Know how much Flipp was singing, which I could have,

0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 2>but I just want him to I want to showcase

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 2>his art or what he gifted was, and it's playing.

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:49.000
<v Speaker 1>So I said this, I had this beat. I said,

0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:52.120
<v Speaker 1>just play to this, let's play and I'm gonna put

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>the choir to it. And he just let me do

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:55.360
<v Speaker 1>what I do. And he came back and I played

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>it for him. He was shocked.

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 2>He was like, wow, you work with artists, that's what

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:05.040
<v Speaker 2>you normally do, but how different is it collabing with

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:05.960
<v Speaker 2>a producer.

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Scott's story.

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:10.480
<v Speaker 2>You pro collab with you know, collabing with an artist

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:13.400
<v Speaker 2>a Beyonce or you know somebody that sings and you

0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 2>producing the beats.

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>But now you got another producer and they do what

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you do.

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 2>That was the fun because now you meeting like minded people.

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:24.439
<v Speaker 2>And Scott was always dope, you know, Scott was dope.

0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 2>And when I did carmelon River, I was just me beatboxing,

0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:30.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, all that stuff, and I say, I need

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Scott to play them chords over top of that, and

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I called Scott. He was right there and he did

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 2>it and he started adding his sauce. I knew Scott

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 2>was always he was incredible, right, you know what I'm saying.

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Scott had a a gift I guess Scott is like,

0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:45.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, I look at Quincy, you know, as he

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 2>developed his team at that younger age.

0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing. And Scott was the guy with

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>all the soul f you know, the roots knew who

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 1>he was. That's why they That's why he came up

0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:56.840
<v Speaker 1>with the roots and all that. And Scott was like

0:59:56.920 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a perfect person to collab with because it's like Lebron

1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and a d you know, you put a great team together.

1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I could pass the ball to him. I know

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.560
<v Speaker 1>he gonna get twenty. You know what I'm saying that Scott.

1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Scott was the guy. His soul was just

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>like my soul. We was like musical soul brothers. Right.

1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Working with Hove, you guys go back and you see, yeah, definite,

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 1>give him flowers.

1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:24.600
<v Speaker 2>What the money he's making. You know, I want to

1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:26.200
<v Speaker 2>have hob over here. I want to give him his flowers.

1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:28.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, get him and got that guard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You go in the studio and you work with Hop

1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:41.760
<v Speaker 2>obviously early in his career. But do you know, no, Hove,

1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:46.280
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna turn out to like go from what he was.

1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:49.360
<v Speaker 1>He talked about cooking on the stove, standing on the corner,

1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to rapper, the entrepreneur, to a multi billionaire. You know,

1:00:59.160 --> 1:01:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we talked about this guy. Never really like

1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Jay Z is a prophet. I don't know if y'all

1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:09.440
<v Speaker 1>read the Bible, of any scholars of the Bible.

1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:15.200
<v Speaker 2>God sent him like I never seen. I never seen

1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 2>nothing nobody like ho Hove actually raised me. He don't

1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:23.840
<v Speaker 2>even know it. He raised me in the music business.

1:01:26.280 --> 1:01:30.720
<v Speaker 2>He was so prolific, so wise beyond his age that

1:01:30.880 --> 1:01:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I was just amazed at just watching him. That's why,

1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:36.960
<v Speaker 2>like I had a different bond with Jay when it

1:01:37.040 --> 1:01:37.880
<v Speaker 2>comes to my music.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like we was rewriting the Bible in a way,

1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:48.880
<v Speaker 1>or rewriting history as it's gonna be. How jay Z

1:01:49.080 --> 1:01:50.840
<v Speaker 1>foresaw the world going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon, I ain't seen nothing like it. When I say,

1:01:54.440 --> 1:02:04.240
<v Speaker 2>this guy speak multiple languages. We did Picasso. That wasn't

1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:04.920
<v Speaker 2>the first version.

1:02:05.000 --> 1:02:07.400
<v Speaker 1>The first version was like all the Hebrew language and

1:02:07.520 --> 1:02:11.480
<v Speaker 1>all like the Jews. He was just breaking it down,

1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's when I realized, like, this got not human.

1:02:15.600 --> 1:02:19.439
<v Speaker 1>He's different. I learned about chess from him. I learned

1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things just being around him. So for me,

1:02:22.040 --> 1:02:27.480
<v Speaker 1>it was like going to Black Harvard University watching Moses

1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm his I'm I'm following him as he

1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:35.600
<v Speaker 1>leaders through the desert right because Jay I knew he

1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:41.520
<v Speaker 1>was destined for greatness. I knew it. I'm watching the

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<v Speaker 1>next biggest thing. Since I don't wanna say Elvis, I

1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:51.000
<v Speaker 1>don't wanna say I wanna say now, I wanna say THEMN.

1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I wanna say e T Wow. Because when ET came out,

1:02:55.720 --> 1:02:57.680
<v Speaker 2>it shook the world just and that was a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying to you, Hoa's movie. Well he did that

1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:08.400
<v Speaker 2>that that DJ CALLI song. People should really take that, yes,

1:03:08.880 --> 1:03:14.600
<v Speaker 2>and really chew it and really used that for a

1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:17.640
<v Speaker 2>guidelines of your life. Jay Z gave you raps that

1:03:17.720 --> 1:03:22.240
<v Speaker 2>can help your business. That's how powerful that man slays

1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:24.840
<v Speaker 2>me on Anywhere on God's Green Earth out trip of

1:03:24.880 --> 1:03:25.520
<v Speaker 2>my network.

1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:31.160
<v Speaker 1>So when you I age now, you gotta look back.

1:03:31.240 --> 1:03:33.000
<v Speaker 1>That man was twenty two. He does give you a

1:03:33.040 --> 1:03:36.400
<v Speaker 1>blueprint of what you can become exactly from what he

1:03:36.640 --> 1:03:40.960
<v Speaker 1>was to what he is. And he he told he

1:03:41.040 --> 1:03:44.600
<v Speaker 1>taught me so much, bro, And I'm glad I was

1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a student to get to see it. You've had some

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<v Speaker 1>struggles in your life. You had an addiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did, and you said you weren't tim And

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<v Speaker 2>not only did it effect you, affected impacted others around you. Yes,

1:04:05.040 --> 1:04:09.800
<v Speaker 2>How did this addiction come about? Not really being sure

1:04:09.880 --> 1:04:14.760
<v Speaker 2>who I am? You know a lot of people. I

1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:16.920
<v Speaker 2>can say this now when we talk about haters, it's

1:04:16.960 --> 1:04:21.840
<v Speaker 2>really the enemy and the enemy. I was fighting the

1:04:22.040 --> 1:04:26.000
<v Speaker 2>enemy within me. I was married at the time and

1:04:26.840 --> 1:04:30.160
<v Speaker 2>doing things, you know, not really knowing who I am,

1:04:30.920 --> 1:04:34.320
<v Speaker 2>chasing things that's false and just life just got a

1:04:34.400 --> 1:04:37.360
<v Speaker 2>little bit aggressive. It got the best of me. And

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<v Speaker 2>so to deal with all the pressures of life. It

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<v Speaker 2>started with a dentist taking Viking. Then the Viking. It

1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:46.960
<v Speaker 2>made me feel like superman. It made me get over everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, I just c I

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<v Speaker 1>w I find myself just taking it all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>had a doctor that was giving it to me, and

1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:58.000
<v Speaker 1>all the times. My mama, my mom was a great

1:04:58.040 --> 1:05:00.160
<v Speaker 1>prayer warrior. She was in the church, and she told

1:05:00.200 --> 1:05:03.480
<v Speaker 1>me she had a dream of me being like, uh,

1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:07.000
<v Speaker 1>my face was turning blue or something like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was on it like for like I was

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<v Speaker 1>taking like one hundred and sixty milligrams a day of

1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:14.400
<v Speaker 1>oxy cotton. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody that I know who've done that has died,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. So I think I even died.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, at one point in time where I got out,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a out of body experience where I was

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<v Speaker 2>laying in the bed and I saw myself laying in

1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:34.040
<v Speaker 2>the bed. And from that point on, you know, God

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<v Speaker 2>has changed my mind. And I didn't go to a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a cold turkey here. I just started weaning

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<v Speaker 2>myself off. And you can put pills in front of

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<v Speaker 2>my face. I could just look at it and be like, cause.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't gonna sit here and hold you. I be

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<v Speaker 1>like it, Well it it feels great, it's amazing, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not amazing, right, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So I try to be an advocate and talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that anything is possible if you put your mind to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I put my mind to it. With the help

1:06:00.640 --> 1:06:02.760
<v Speaker 2>of God in praying, he weaned me off. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to go be on another drug to get off

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<v Speaker 2>of drug.

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<v Speaker 1>Did did the pil addition impact your marriage? Did that

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<v Speaker 1>have a roller?

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<v Speaker 2>I think if it impact my whole life. God took

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<v Speaker 2>me to the to the bottom where that when I

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<v Speaker 2>got divorce. You know, the voice is like that dang.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a business, you destroys you. You lose everything, You

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<v Speaker 2>lose everything. So for me, you know, it just not

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<v Speaker 2>it just it was a self reflection for me. So

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mind going back to the crushing place, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because God needed to wake me up. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, like i'ma I'm gonna redeem you, but I

1:06:36.080 --> 1:06:39.200
<v Speaker 2>gotta humble you too. I gotta break you down and

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<v Speaker 2>make me realize because a lot of things in life

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<v Speaker 2>I was taking for granted. You know, when we're young,

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<v Speaker 2>we get money. It's just a lot of things I

1:06:45.480 --> 1:06:48.919
<v Speaker 2>was taking for granted. And I just start appreciating little

1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:54.439
<v Speaker 2>things like be able to scratch, you know, be able

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<v Speaker 2>to still run, like my organs still work, that I still.

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<v Speaker 1>Can, got my right mind. You know, it was just me.

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<v Speaker 1>The drugs had me because I was an introvert, and

1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I felt like that being an introvert ain't gonna get you.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna get you paid because you just you

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<v Speaker 1>can't be quiet. You gotta go out and men. So

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<v Speaker 1>the drugs helped me to do that. But people start

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<v Speaker 1>to notice, like, tell me, all right, did did did

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<v Speaker 1>your work slip because of the pilling? Oh? Did it?

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<v Speaker 2>God took my hair in a way he took me.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear, right. I remember I

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<v Speaker 2>was in the studio with Tanache and I was playing

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<v Speaker 2>this beat, and now I think.

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<v Speaker 1>What I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that was the waggist beat ever but

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<v Speaker 2>in my head. But I was still going through recovery stage,

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<v Speaker 2>so I shouldn't have really gotten into that room.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I ain't know quit it, I'm gonna. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. But I know through me still getting

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<v Speaker 1>off of the drug, I still.

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<v Speaker 2>Had some relapse that still wasn't correct, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't hear properly, so I I was just I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to get back at something that God gave me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I neglect the gift. I neglect music. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was bigger than music, and that's not how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you got to give God all the glory

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<v Speaker 1>for what you have, your gift, and don't get above

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<v Speaker 1>the gift. And I got above the gift, and the

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<v Speaker 1>drugs have me like I'm Timbo. Everybody canna come to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I realized ain't nobody coming to me?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, and my energy is wearing

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<v Speaker 1>off on the world and I didn't even know it.

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<v Speaker 1>In social media stuff I was saying with this all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, reporters that yet told you said, man, don't do

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<v Speaker 2>no interviews. Yep, that's what I'm trying to say. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a prophet, you know. Even Drake told me. Drake, that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I said, That's why I look at people like

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<v Speaker 2>those guys. Those guys are like special to the world,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, Drake, I think I did something talk

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<v Speaker 2>crazy on one Revolt and Dre's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yo, man, you don't want to do that and

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<v Speaker 1>have to go back and apologize later, like you want

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<v Speaker 1>to check it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I commend people like that for correcting me and

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<v Speaker 2>on my behavior. Chris Brown corrected me on my behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>So I commend people because that's what we need, even

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<v Speaker 2>though it might cut to the night. Still, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>look at it as what's up what you're trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't look at it as a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bee that used to be, that used to be how

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<v Speaker 2>we community raised kids, we're growing up. If the elderly

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<v Speaker 2>people of somebody older than you saw you do it wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>they say, Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that. Still, no curse, You too young to curse?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you too young to still? You too young to smoke?

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<v Speaker 2>But somehow we lost that now that if we see

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<v Speaker 2>other blacks and we try to correct them, let that

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<v Speaker 2>man live you being an other time, you speaking man,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking negative. But they thought enough of you, they say, man,

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<v Speaker 2>Tim to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say you man. That's why I say it's love. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I love it like I because nobody got to

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<v Speaker 1>say nothing to watch you fall right, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Now, Once they give you the information, it's

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<v Speaker 1>up to YouTube to do to do what you do. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do it as much because the drugs had

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more told. Once I started breaking myself off,

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<v Speaker 2>winning myself off divorce, then all this stuff started coming

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<v Speaker 2>out in my divorce, like who was doing this byd

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not saying behind my back, but stuff I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't paying attention to right because I fought me because

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<v Speaker 2>I could have if it be something different, if.

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<v Speaker 1>I was paying attention right. So I can't say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody did me wrong because the drugs had my mind

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking that I'm gonna always be this, i'm'na always

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<v Speaker 1>do that, which is kind of like you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>need that mentality because that mentality kept me going. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like how the mentality came on from a drug abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was just me being natural, being like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is, because it allow me to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that makes us great, that also makes us most

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<v Speaker 2>vallible exactly. He rose in the villain and one a

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<v Speaker 2>what is a Timbo studio session?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I mean, is there you know? Is there ambionce

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<v Speaker 1>going on? You got? I mean? What was it? We

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<v Speaker 1>coming in? We gotta okay, we got a student time

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<v Speaker 1>you normally you're said what time? Which okay? Which area

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about? Okay, I guess the young the young,

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<v Speaker 1>the young dudes, they cover that thing at like midnight,

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<v Speaker 1>two o'clock two as that's how I used to start, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't go still till like one o'clock. So what

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<v Speaker 1>dare you doing? What mean? What you ain't got job

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<v Speaker 1>to fleet? Like a fan part. I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I was gone and I was gone. I

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<v Speaker 1>keep the shades down.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the dark, bro, I was in get

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<v Speaker 2>out for real, like for real, like for real, like

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<v Speaker 2>I tell people now, people tell me on lean and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I be like, I know the feeling, I know the

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<v Speaker 2>goodness of it, but I know the bad outweighs the good.

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<v Speaker 2>I slept with the shades down, like who sleeps in darkness?

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<v Speaker 2>I never wanted the shaves up. I constantly just oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the sunlights hurt my eyes. That's darkness, man. Like I

1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:52.080
<v Speaker 2>ain't start, I ain't come out to the dark. And

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like, you know, I look back at it

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<v Speaker 2>like now and for real, always.

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<v Speaker 1>Had to like nine to five, I'm out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>I like nine to five. I get started TI twelve o'clock,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So it was like, but

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<v Speaker 1>now I look at it like I get better because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I train, I work out, I take care

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<v Speaker 1>of your body. I do all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I started around about like twelve, and I try

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<v Speaker 2>to stop it like nine because my brain, Look, I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't got no more juice of it, me, bro, I ain't.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna we got two hits today, right okay? Because

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<v Speaker 2>after that, I know it's gonna be bull crap. I

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<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna fool myself. I'm going home and watch some TV,

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<v Speaker 2>watch your show.

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<v Speaker 1>One. Then I go back and go back into a beat.

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<v Speaker 1>So coming to a Timulus session today, it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>go in there with my team, a young producer and

1:12:36.040 --> 1:12:38.639
<v Speaker 1>I going there and be and be coach coach simbo

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<v Speaker 1>and going there dictate no this, move this, let's change this,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this, and we going there. We make about

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<v Speaker 1>three or four four hot ones and like, let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go live life, Let's go look at some TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Le's read a book, Let's go look at something. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just sit in there. It's constant do music.

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<v Speaker 1>This repetition. It's repetitious. And after a while, you like

1:12:57.280 --> 1:12:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you kind of like overloaded. You have to like take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. And I've learned that through time, like taking

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<v Speaker 1>a break helps you recover.

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<v Speaker 2>That I watch you, follow you on social media, and

1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I see that you work out, You spend a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time, and I want to commend you on that

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<v Speaker 2>because I like to see when brothers take care of

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<v Speaker 2>themselves and that their health is a big party. And

1:13:18.320 --> 1:13:20.479
<v Speaker 2>mean wealth doesn't mean anything if you're not healthy. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>And so to see you do that and see the

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<v Speaker 2>transformation that you put your body through. And you did

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<v Speaker 2>it all through hard work.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. You inspired me. Look how you look? Ill?

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<v Speaker 1>I tell my coach Phil sitting over there. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>them all. I said, man, look how Shannon look. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you don't ever take off his shirt? See

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<v Speaker 1>to me? Said he said, he got hip replaced. I

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<v Speaker 1>said him, don't look bad. Come on here, like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you the rock.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, being fifty is like being twenty all over.

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<v Speaker 2>And my dad just had two strokes and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and God bless him. He still you know, didn't lose

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<v Speaker 2>too much. Don't have you know, it's got a little speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Got hit by eighteen wheel of randover back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. The thing he did was poo poo on

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<v Speaker 1>the self. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So I look at the bloodline of a family, my dead.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, yo, I've been on heavy narcotics.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids. I want to be I don't and I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't want to be lazy. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm better than this. And I always had vision.

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<v Speaker 1>I look in the mirror. Some people can look at

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<v Speaker 1>you know they weight and everything. I was just one

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<v Speaker 1>who always saw when I look at say huge your

1:14:39.360 --> 1:14:42.280
<v Speaker 1>own beddest the rock, I'm like, see that's I got

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<v Speaker 1>that bone structure.

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<v Speaker 2>I pulled a fit like where they go line each

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<v Speaker 2>other up. I want to stand at least I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the line. I said that as we

1:14:49.760 --> 1:14:53.880
<v Speaker 2>look at athlete, and I just started like, yo, I

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<v Speaker 2>could be like that. But then I always like food

1:14:56.400 --> 1:14:57.960
<v Speaker 2>used to be a part of it, till I have

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<v Speaker 2>to just say, you know what, I'm like, John wigg

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<v Speaker 2>that ship, will you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>I could do this?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I just started as like I look at

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<v Speaker 2>you and I just watch you in the gym. I

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<v Speaker 2>look at all y'all and I'm like, no, this fifties

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<v Speaker 2>and new thirties, Like you know what I'm saying, look

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<v Speaker 2>at these look at these guys like that's how you're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to look. You're supposed to be healthy, keeping going

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<v Speaker 2>like you're not supposed to get old.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's just just like you only get one car.

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<v Speaker 1>Your body is your car, your one life, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, one life. I mean I got both replaced.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get knee replacement, you know hard lung kidney

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<v Speaker 2>can replace life.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, look I'm looking like it. Look at it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like he's twenty years old. Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just tell him, I said, man, TV, don't

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<v Speaker 2>do him justice. The camera's gotta stop. They gotta stop that, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>The camera's adding No, y'all lenses is off. Because I

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<v Speaker 2>look at the brothers like you still play you like

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<v Speaker 2>y'all t o.

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<v Speaker 1>All these people I beat. I'm amazing athletes Like I

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<v Speaker 1>took a new liking to all athletes because the abuse

1:15:54.800 --> 1:15:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that y'all take. The critic people who don't even work

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<v Speaker 1>out tell you that you you know you talk he made,

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<v Speaker 1>But have you got on the field, have you lift

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<v Speaker 1>the weight? Until you start looking at what y'all do

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<v Speaker 1>and what y'all put your body through. It's a respect

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<v Speaker 1>that I love. I worked out with Chris Paul and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, man, just you being not an athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I do for a job, but you

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<v Speaker 1>come out here and put it in with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>respect you.

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<v Speaker 2>I would buy anything you selling like you know because

1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:26.120
<v Speaker 2>you put in the work. And I ain't really understood

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<v Speaker 2>that until I saw them. I'm like, man, we look

1:16:29.040 --> 1:16:31.479
<v Speaker 2>at we talk about the big pays that's cool, but

1:16:32.200 --> 1:16:34.840
<v Speaker 2>what they go through it's what I mean. Everybody sees

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<v Speaker 2>the pay there, but they don't know the process too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they see the beat, but they don't understand

1:16:41.000 --> 1:16:43.719
<v Speaker 2>what you went through growing up to perfect the craft

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<v Speaker 2>that finally the culmination is okay. Crime a river suit

1:16:49.080 --> 1:16:52.720
<v Speaker 2>and tie beats and all that other thing. They don't

1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:54.400
<v Speaker 2>see that. All they see is the payoff.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all this.

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<v Speaker 2>But see, I have a whole up respect and I

1:16:57.400 --> 1:16:59.720
<v Speaker 2>felt like I came with a program when we call

1:16:59.760 --> 1:17:02.719
<v Speaker 2>push and peaks that I feel like people of our age,

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<v Speaker 2>our generation talking to the men's it's from forty on up,

1:17:05.720 --> 1:17:09.240
<v Speaker 2>thirty on up. Look, it's not about it's about mental

1:17:09.280 --> 1:17:12.160
<v Speaker 2>clarity working out. It's cool for the body, but it

1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:14.519
<v Speaker 2>really makes me clear. It gives me a high that

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<v Speaker 2>I never I can't explain, and it makes me look

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<v Speaker 2>at life a little different. It takes away anxiety for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just a whole lifestyle, Like it's my

1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:26.400
<v Speaker 2>whole life, Like I can't I don't like to travel

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<v Speaker 2>if I like my meals is messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm very serious with her, Like I'm so serious

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<v Speaker 1>with it like I'm like, wait minute, what we gotta

1:17:34.400 --> 1:17:36.559
<v Speaker 1>do for two days? Oh man, let me figure out

1:17:36.600 --> 1:17:39.400
<v Speaker 1>my schedule. I need it, I need my supplements. I

1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:41.960
<v Speaker 1>need this and it and I feel good and I

1:17:42.120 --> 1:17:45.519
<v Speaker 1>have great doctors around me, just just like teaching me

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<v Speaker 1>about the body.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they said, Yo, Tim, I get your glue coast monitors.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know about I ain't got no disease,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm a hard but no, we want to turn

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<v Speaker 2>into a fat burning machine, not a sugar burning machine.

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<v Speaker 2>So I start getting the glue coast monitor, putting on

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<v Speaker 2>my arm and going like this. I'm really all into

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<v Speaker 2>it because I feel like it's it's allowed me to

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<v Speaker 2>do things like this.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a conversation where I used to be scared, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't used to I didn't think I had enough

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<v Speaker 1>in me to do this. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>My education ain't all that great. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I'm and it allows me to say, Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>you good you. I made your your imperfection perfection, right,

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<v Speaker 2>go show your gift. You don't know who you can touch.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just started this being free and be by

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<v Speaker 2>me working out and allows me to endorphins in my

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<v Speaker 2>brain to say I'm a better me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If you take allership of your imperfection, you're frailty is

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<v Speaker 2>then no one can make you feel inferial about it exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I when I work out with the athletes

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<v Speaker 2>and they go faster, they look at me, and he

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<v Speaker 2>got and Piel got a lot of fighters that come

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<v Speaker 2>in there. He trade all these fighters and they be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, I ain't trading all these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said, no, get in there. That's what you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Get now. I get in there, and then they look

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<v Speaker 1>at me.

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<v Speaker 2>They dap me up, and they really dap me up,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I could tell it ain't just because I'm timbo

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<v Speaker 2>to can They really like yeah, yo, because that's because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we do. We're athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>We trained. That'll be like if we came in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio and we did okay on the train, You're like, okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the same thing we're gonna give you yours

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what we do. We train our jobs as

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<v Speaker 2>body and to make sure our body is performing at

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<v Speaker 2>the peak conditioning. Yes, yes, And so I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>commend you on that. Let me ask you a question,

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<v Speaker 2>get you out of him business. Are we gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>a Timbo Missy reunion? And you got anything come? Any

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<v Speaker 2>new music coming out?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>We all getting a Timbo Missy. I'm gathering up the

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<v Speaker 2>sound because it's certain. It's a certain sound that I

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<v Speaker 2>want her to have at you know, you see how

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<v Speaker 2>good she looks right now. Yeah, she looked like she's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years old. Yeah, So I want to give.

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<v Speaker 1>Her a sound to fit how she looks. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>my job to get her excited while she's doing all

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<v Speaker 1>the things because I think she's doing the lovers and friends.

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<v Speaker 2>She got a lot of festivals coming up. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gathering all my material to really go sit down

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<v Speaker 2>with her. I know April is gonna be a busy mutt,

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<v Speaker 2>but I gotta finish up with her and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>try it. We're gonna try to put it out around

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<v Speaker 2>her birthday in July. Okay, I got cambot. Appreciate you, brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was beautiful brother. Thank you, Bro, I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you taking the opportunity to sitting down and talking

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<v Speaker 2>with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro hey man. But look this shay.

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<v Speaker 3>Geez, all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, Hustle

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<v Speaker 3>bad the Price, Wanta slice got the brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Dis Swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life,

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<v Speaker 1>all my life and grinding all my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Sacrifice, Hustle bad, the Price one Slice got the brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Dis swap all my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been grinding all my life.