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Speaker 3: Yes, my Queen, all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

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Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Shay Shay. I

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Speaker 2: Club sha Shay. And the guy that's stopping by for

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Speaker 2: conversation and a drink today is a global icon. He

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Speaker 2: was a rapper, songwriter, executive entrepreneur, the emperor of sound,

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Speaker 2: none other than Tim Land.

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Speaker 1: Tim, what's up right? I'm blessed? How you doing? You

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Speaker 1: know what? Brother?

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Speaker 2: When you come on the show and I have someone

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Speaker 2: to distinguished it yourself, I got to told your career

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Speaker 4: Mm got your mom with those out there you are

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Speaker 4: conyac drink this rame here Ooh that shame shame.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Shame. Yes, thanks for stopping by. How

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Speaker 1: you doing? I'm great, man, I'm blessed. I'm blessed. You

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the beginning. I wanna go start

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Speaker 2: back when you go all the way back to Virginia.

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Speaker 2: I was reading your story. You have a man, you

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Speaker 2: But this almost didn't happen at sidently got shot working

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Speaker 2: at Red Lobster. What transpired? How did this event come about?

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Speaker 2: I was a kid who always just loved music, you know,

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Speaker 1: Right. I was just a kid who always dreamed so big,

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Speaker 2: I still it's just it's just something I had to

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Speaker 2: But you know, how were young and my own boy

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Speaker 2: That's just the attitude, because I felt like God wasn't

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Speaker 2: I just know that New York was like the bubbling state,

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Speaker 2: We were just like minded people, just doing great music.

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Speaker 1: And that real limelight. And then it was me and

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Speaker 2: Then everybody like, who is this girl? Then from there

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Speaker 2: How did you and Missy get started? Were you friends

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Speaker 2: because of a friend of mine named I think Melvin

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Speaker 2: Nouir was Magoo, That'sgoo Magoo's from Portsmouth. Melvin knew Missy

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Speaker 2: Missy I had I had was doing just beats, like

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Speaker 1: I didn't know nothing about it. I'm like, you're about

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Speaker 2: She just kept like giving me the encouragement, like how

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Speaker 2: I was like it was the first it was. It

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Speaker 2: And she gave you confidence that you could do something

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving and I'm taking you with me. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: That I got back home? And that was me right?

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Speaker 2: You know, in the eminem song, you get one shot

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Speaker 5: It was, but I won't scared of it because we

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Speaker 2: With a sound with his group, right, So I thank

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Speaker 2: So it was a perfect marriage. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I hear you saying that this guy took you and says, okay,

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Speaker 2: Is that a forgotten I think now we have more

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Speaker 1: Right, it's just everybody sitting. Everybody know how to work

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Speaker 2: team Okay, you're you're in the studio, you're working on this, Like, are.

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Speaker 2: Anxiousness, nervousness, what's going what's going through your head when

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Speaker 1: Man, you know what's going through my heads? I got

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Speaker 2: You know that's you know what I'm saying. That's all

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Speaker 1: It wasn't no pressure on the first album because it

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Speaker 2: Okay, that first album, there's no pressure, no pressure, it

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Speaker 1: The second album, Now, let's talk about that. That's what

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Speaker 1: Missy took me through. The Ringer miss it would make well,

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Speaker 2: So she's like, we gotta beat what we did. So

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Speaker 1: She would make me go through one hundred beats before

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Speaker 2: I gotta see the video. I gotta see how my

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Speaker 2: So I was like, it made me look at my

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Speaker 1: It's this sound is she gonna she go? So she

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Speaker 1: just you know, Missy took you know, she'll make you

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Speaker 2: But that's part of being great. You know everything that

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Speaker 2: Now this the Missy that now that I'm in the door.

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Speaker 1: Like what miss if you don't you boy, tam, you

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Speaker 1: know how we rock rock that way? Tim, So she

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Speaker 2: Your brain me load, you take behind. But I enjoy

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Speaker 2: She made me not settle. We can be hotter too,

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Speaker 2: We can be dope.

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Speaker 2: And her songs are so catchy and it's so you

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Speaker 2: back and like.

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00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: I do it all the time. I'd be like, I'd

436
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: be like people are around me, like, you know that's dope.

437
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 1: It's like you get that head nod. You know, you

438
00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We do. Yeah. And when she cause.

439
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 2: She bring it to life, right, she takes something that

440
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 2: I present to her and she.

441
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 1: Just said, watch how I make this blossom? Right, And

442
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 1: she just make it blossom. And I'd be like, I'll

443
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 1: just be smiling in the inside.

444
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 2: Like I don't know how to show it on the outside,

445
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: but inside I'll be saying all what you're saying. When

446
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: when you first met Missy and you looking at this,

447
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 2: she's very small in stature, but her presence is like commanding.

448
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 2: She's a She demands that you look at her. She

449
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 2: demands that you pay attention to her. Did you think

450
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: this small, small of a woman could be? And what

451
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: she became? And now as far as songwriting, she's in

452
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 2: the Songwriting Hall of Fame. She's got a star on

453
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That that's my girl. That's

454
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 2: my Homide from BA Missy is like.

455
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: Who is it? What's is it?

456
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: Oprah from Color Purple? Yeah, that's who Missy is. Like

457
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 2: Missy is She's just sink. She comes from a single

458
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 2: mom Missy. She always had leadership in her. So when

459
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: a person has leadership, it just.

460
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: Don't matter how they lead you. And Missy was always

461
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: a great leader. So I'm not surprised of how big

462
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: she was because you couldn't just come nobody, I don't

463
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: care who you are, you can't just say anything Missy.

464
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: Missy she gonna challenge you. She gonna challenge you. And

465
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 2: that was a va thanks you like you're like, oh,

466
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: Missy was on top of the moon. You can go

467
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: on the top of the moon. Missy Ellen ain't going

468
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 2: on top.

469
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: And people be like, you know, you know how this

470
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: this world is entertained, Oh you should, No, that's not

471
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: what master own beat. She really sticks to how he

472
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: was raised in the South, and she don't.

473
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: She don't bend the ruge. Other people could be going

474
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: over there, Missy. Missy ain't going over there. She's very stern,

475
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: very on point.

476
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: She has sheer will and she's gonna do what she

477
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: says she's gonna do. So she always had that leadership.

478
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: And that's what I always my my about because when

479
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: I broke character, she always stayed in character. So I'm like, man,

480
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: she's amazing this this beats.

481
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: These beats obviously at the height of reporter that you

482
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: was getting five hundred thousand. Have you ever had to

483
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: tell someone, bro, I can't let you get on this one.

484
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: Unfortunately nobody from our generation I had to do that.

485
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: But as I started working with the new generation, I

486
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: don't say they was bad. I think my ears. I

487
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: think I got old real you know what I'm saying.

488
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: I said, oh, oh, this bit like price is kick it

489
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: is because I'm like, because music evolves, but when it

490
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: was evolving, I stopped evolving, right.

491
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: So when a person got on it, I was like,

492
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 1: the hell is you saying? Like you off the beat? Right?

493
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 2: So I had to start adjusting because I got kided, like, no, dad,

494
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: that's popping. I'm saying, hen you on the beat man,

495
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: that's not popping.

496
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: Right. Then I started saying, okay, music, don't let me down,

497
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: because you you you you level it up. You leveled up.

498
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: So I was a person who changed people's perspective of

499
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: putting animals in music. So I got to accept the

500
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: new rhythm of the youth. So I started to listening

501
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: to it. I'm like, wow, that's what's hot now? Yeah,

502
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: And it started, It started hitting me different, and I'm like, oh,

503
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: I get it right. But when I first walked in

504
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: the door, it threw me off. And that's what I

505
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: had to say, Bro, you can't have this beat. Before

506
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: I say that, I went to my my son and

507
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, before I go.

508
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: Left, it's just dope, that's crazy. I'm like, Okay, I

509
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: got to go back to school. I got I have,

510
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: I have age. I have gotten too comfortable with what

511
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: I've always been doing and not looking that it can evolve.

512
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: There's another Timberland come around the door. There's another person

513
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: coming around. When all these tags coming out, I was like,

514
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't prepared for all that. I wasn't prepared for all,

515
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: you know, the new generation of digital. But I should

516
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: have known it was coming because we had protubs and

517
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: so I should have known that everything is going to

518
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: be switched over to a laptop. I was one of

519
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: those guys to say, oh, that ain't music when Ableton

520
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: came out and people started playing on a pad, piano

521
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: on a pad, and.

522
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: Then I had to say, yo, that's not a piano.

523
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: And it really kind of like that really like took

524
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: me down, Like I had a load because I felt

525
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: like I'm so on point, but I let I kind

526
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: of like let life kind of get in the way,

527
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: which kind of steer me to another road where I

528
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: kind of.

529
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: Let music evolve above me.

530
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: So when that happened, when I got with the new generation,

531
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: I had to really like take a deep dive and say, wait, manute,

532
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: what's going on here?

533
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: Did you ever get and it doesn't seem like this happened?

534
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: Get high of your own supply, Like you have all

535
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: these number one hints and they're coming out and coming

536
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: and coming, and people come to you atim I need you, nah,

537
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: but I don't need you. Did you tell anybody did

538
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: you like? And look back at it, said, man, I

539
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: shouldn't have done that. Yes, I've done That's all that.

540
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: What I just told you based down to that to say,

541
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing. They can't take a

542
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: timbo beat, they can't do this, and not understanding it

543
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 2: that they grew up to my music right and just

544
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 2: it's bigger than me. And I had to really just

545
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: do a deep dive into self reflection and be like

546
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: I changed the game.

547
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: Who am I? Who are you? These kids look up

548
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: to you?

549
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: If their favorite song was Crimeme and Ribber and it's

550
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: like I started to like just really like have talked

551
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: to my really my children, you know, because they're younger.

552
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: So I'm like, they said, you dope, you just got

553
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: to like music. Can't what you what y'all used to do? Right,

554
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: And when they started saying that, I'm like, oh man,

555
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: we turned the corner. So then I started saying, oh, okay,

556
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: this is dope.

557
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: This is dope.

558
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: And I started getting more active and more in it

559
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: than now, like I'm all the way in it now.

560
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: But it took.

561
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: It took some time because I had to come down right.

562
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: I was too high on my ego. It was like

563
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: a coach, this is my system, this is what I run.

564
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: But the players that you have in that system might

565
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: not be good for that system. What you were used

566
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: to you were great at that. Now these players now

567
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: might not be great at that. So now let me

568
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: evolve the system to fit today's players.

569
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: Just like basketball, I don't know half of the players.

570
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: So it evolved, it evolved. You know how many stars

571
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: like that. We're creating new stars.

572
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: So when you watch it, Basketball said, do you know

573
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: what I went to the basketball game? I'm looking at

574
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: it like, it's just like music. I don't know nobody,

575
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what they three point game. I ain't

576
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: never seen this before. I ain't never seen this before.

577
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: So that's what music is.

578
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: It evolves.

579
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: Our children get better than what we were. They take

580
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: it to the next level. And I never understood that

581
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: because I got too caught up in my own horses.

582
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: So how did the world did you?

583
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: Like, Man, I want to work with this artist, you

584
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: reach out or they reach out to you, said a team.

585
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: We heard you beat, we heard what you did with Missy,

586
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: we heard what you did with Jay, we heard what

587
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: you did with JT. Can you work with us or

588
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: did you wait for them to come to you or

589
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: did you go to them? Well, it's been a time

590
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: where I when I was on that I thought people

591
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 2: would come to me. Boy, I realized that there's a

592
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: lot of people they're like, man, do we go to this?

593
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: We go to that? Because they had a sound.

594
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: So that kind of ended quick because a lot of

595
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: young people that once I understood and my ear got more,

596
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: got corrected back again.

597
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: So I started reaching.

598
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: Out to people that I you know, these new artists

599
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, I want to work with you. Because

600
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: I admire what they was doing and it was like

601
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: me surrendering to music, like I'm a student all over again.

602
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: I know I'm a coach, but I want to be

603
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: I want to be Steve Caller.

604
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: I want to be that coach of field. I want

605
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: to be go down in history like I got my squad,

606
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: I got a team.

607
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 2: I'm maybe not the guy. I understand my role and

608
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: I tell a lot of people, understand who you are,

609
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: in your in your strengths and weakness, and I know

610
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: my strength is guiding people. Yeah, I could do dope beats.

611
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: But as I started to understand what music was taking me.

612
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: Now is in that Quincy Jones moment. And it's like

613
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: when Quincy did Thriller, he had a twenty five year

614
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: old he's fifty, but Quincy grabbed that person, got Rob Timpleton,

615
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: he grabbed the drummer, he grabbed all these people and

616
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: made an incredible album. And I said, that's what I

617
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: have to do with the future of music. So now

618
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: I reach out to people and tell and people that's

619
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: not even big that I see the guy talent. Yeah,

620
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: I noticed that because that's the future, that's the world

621
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: that they gonna you know, everybody can.

622
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Be everybody can jump on somebody that's hot.

623
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to get the guy that nobody knows,

624
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: give him a beat, guide him and then make it

625
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: and beat and make him or her become Yeah, because

626
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: I want to be the guy. Like when I say something,

627
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: not saying to take my word, just give it a

628
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: pay attention to.

629
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: Me, right, you know, it's like buying to your product.

630
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: Like I say, it's hey, Shanny got the best train,

631
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: So if you put out another one, I'm going to

632
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: Shannon because Shannon, no, his case is amazing. Right.

633
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: So it's like I want people to understand when I

634
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: when I say music, pay attention and it's happening. Like

635
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: I put I posted this French You guy y'all mad

636
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: and he said yo. He called me and said now

637
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: the label was trying to sign me, And I'm like, well,

638
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: they ain't trying to sign you before that. You was

639
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: dope before, just singing on a cappella. So what I

640
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: kind of do is like the showcase, what's coming after,

641
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: what's already popping today? And I just it gives me

642
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: joy because it makes me feel like I'm nineteen again

643
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: when I first got in music and when I first

644
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 2: when MISSI came to me. But now I'm like, I

645
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: created this legendary brand of Timerland being the legend. So

646
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: I like reaching out to people to show that I'm

647
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: paying attention to your art.

648
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: You already know my art, but I'm scouting.

649
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: You out like it's like me creating a team, like

650
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: I want to build, Like, okay, these are my these

651
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: are my starter back that's my dad. Yeah, I said, oh,

652
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: we need to we need a front runner. We need

653
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: to go take it to the to yad line. So

654
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: I look at it like that. It's like plays now,

655
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: like it's getting the best of the best and creating.

656
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about doing an album like that.

657
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: I's trying to figure it out because I don't want

658
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: to do the typical album of getting everybody. I want

659
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: to take raw talent and show people that you know,

660
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: because all music is about a song.

661
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: It's not really about the so much of the artist.

662
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: No more like we have one hundred songs uploaded every

663
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: day on Spotify. So with that being said, I just

664
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: want to have to curate the best songs of today

665
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: with new people whove on your mount rushmore producers all

666
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: the time, who Teddy Riley, okay, Quincy Jones, doctor Dre

667
00:30:54,200 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: Pete Rock. I mean, is that that far? That's it.

668
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: That's unless you're gonna do a new go back and

669
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: he's on the four. That's it, old heads on my rushmore.

670
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Let me let me damn you want the octopus, try

671
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: to spend the website shore to pick the fourth.

672
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: P on right if Teddy Riley, doctor Dre, Quincy Jones,

673
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: Pete Rock, I said Pete Rock because he was the

674
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: guy who kind of had he was he was the

675
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: first that kind of like took over the airways with

676
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: all the remix with Docson facts.

677
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Then he had then that like he had the good Yeah.

678
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: But then and then and then it's then it's hard

679
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: because I wanted okay, if I had to.

680
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: Dang, I can't just forget for me m and dealer. See,

681
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm stuck. We're gonna have to have three. The four

682
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: one is up for toss up. Like I gotta go back.

683
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: And I think the thing is when you go when

684
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: you say doctor dre and Quincy Jones, those two got

685
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: to be there. It got to be there. They got

686
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: to be there. Now we can we can debate the

687
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: other two, but you can't have a producer Matt Rushmore

688
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: without Dre and without Quinns, you cannot. You cannot, Okay, JT.

689
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: How did the relationship with you and j T? Justin

690
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: Timberlake come Alut? Justin always he liked my he liked

691
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: what me and Missy did. And I met him when

692
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: he was fifteen at a studio and he was like, hey, man,

693
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: I want to work with.

694
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: You and blah blah blah. Was he still in the

695
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: group or what ye he was still in the group.

696
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: And this was when before Along came out with Alone

697
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: was about that Michael Jacksman No Gone Gone it was

698
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: coming out and this is like right around that time.

699
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: So he was still in the group, but he was

700
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: about to do a solo album and so he was already.

701
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: Working for real.

702
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: And then he came and said he remembered like, Yo,

703
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: Johnny Wright got with me and said, Yo, just want

704
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: to work with you. So when we got together, we

705
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: had chemistry because he from Memphis, I'm from Virginia. It's

706
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: like we kind of grew up on the same thing

707
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: and when you kind of like had the same background

708
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: and talk about the same things.

709
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: And he was alway working for phar Real. I already

710
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: knew he.

711
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: Was gonna click with me, and it was just it

712
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: was just like a matter of time if he you know,

713
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: because back then you're fifteen. I don't know if you

714
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: we say one thing, but he really follow up on it,

715
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: like my sound really stuck with him and he had

716
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: to work with me. I'm the crimea river suit and

717
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: tie sexy back, thirty million albums sol.

718
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, did you know he could do this? Oh?

719
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. When I first met her, I said, oh,

720
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: this boy, this white boy cold. Yeah, he's like a

721
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: better George Bike he was. I was like, yo, he

722
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: got it.

723
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: And then when he started dancing out right, I said

724
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: it's over because at that time we haven't seen that,

725
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: nobody that exactly.

726
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: So we came in an era where I mean, he

727
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: can really dance that what Evers was doing and shake

728
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: it and him. But oh that's one thing. But what

729
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: he was doing was different with what we were doing exactly,

730
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh he Then at West starts

731
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: singing out like, oh he is out of here. When

732
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: the solo, I said, oh, this is Michael Jackson. You

733
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The Justified album that was a

734
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: masterpiece and he when I.

735
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: Did Crime in River, that was like one of the

736
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: last songs we did. But like the did you know

737
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: that was gonna be a hit?

738
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: Do you know?

739
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: Do you know, like, okay, you got to beat and

740
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: someone is singing over it. Do you know at that

741
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 2: moment this ish is special? Or do you like, I mean,

742
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be good. Or have you had

743
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: a situation where you didn't think, like I think it's

744
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: gonna be okay and then it blows up, or you

745
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: have one that you think is gonna blow up and

746
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: it don't go anywhere.

747
00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: It's a lot of dude, it's a lot of those,

748
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: a lot of those because I like all the B

749
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: side records, you know what I'm saying, But for the

750
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: ones I knew it was gonna be a hit, Like

751
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: did I didn't think that was a hit and I

752
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: ain't think it was gonna be a hit.

753
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: Was one minute, man, I ain't like that song. I

754
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: was like, I don't like this song. You're gonna put

755
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: this out till you crazy. It's all my girl, the

756
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: girls going crazy.

757
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I bet that with girl what going crazy?

758
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: Hell no, we didn't like it. You know what I'm saying.

759
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I was like, make light up, like I said, man,

760
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: you gotta put our something, put our visits on the street.

761
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: God that that wasn't mean. He said. One minute. I

762
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: was like like, and I did that sound b b

763
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: b B. I said, you like this, it's like nursery rhyme.

764
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: She said, watch and then what she said, boy, I'm

765
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: gonna make it love. I was like, it's dope, but

766
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: you know it still ain't. It ain't. Did Ludacris Ludicris

767
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: cor and say you don't write this? Boy? You crazy?

768
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm about to get on. I'm like, well, I'm gonna

769
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: stay ten toes down. It's all right, you know what

770
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's cool. But then when it blew up,

771
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: I said that girl, missus, she knows. And from that

772
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: point on you never questioned it. It was like, yes,

773
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: my queen, whatever you like what I'm looking now.

774
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: You see Justin he sold his entire music catalog, and

775
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: we see a lot of artists starting to unload their

776
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: music catalog. Justin bieber So's Here sold his for two

777
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: hundred million, ten to Turn and sold us for three

778
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: hundred million. Bruce Bringstein sold Here's for five hundred million.

779
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: Why do you think guys are artists are starting to

780
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: unload their music catalog? I mean it's a business, you

781
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, what's wrong with if somebody

782
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: We don't know if that three hundred million be there tomorrow, right.

783
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: So what are we holding on to? What are we

784
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: doing here?

785
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: We work as hard for these moments one of people

786
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: giving out those type of multiple on a check, you know.

787
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: So I feel like it's it's it's all personal preference.

788
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people and they say three

789
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: hundred millions, that's like that's a whole that set up

790
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: for your family.

791
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

792
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: You go buy businesses, you get with certain people and

793
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: then you look at the time they doing. Bruce Springsteen,

794
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: he should have been so but guess what he probably

795
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: got his business plan and what he want to do

796
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: with his money, what he want to do.

797
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: Just add on and make sure you got kids. You know.

798
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's I think it's smart business.

799
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

800
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: We do we build up this catalog.

801
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: Two for to sell.

802
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: But you know I've seen ti I say, is like,

803
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: you know, different ways of doing it and.

804
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: He is like you or just go ahead and unloaded

805
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: out right.

806
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: So it all, it all goes down to what's your

807
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: what's your business plan? So TI, I just gave somebody

808
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: an individual of another business plan which is not a

809
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: bad business plan, and you just have to go do it.

810
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: And some people it works because it's like it's all

811
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: about you know, we all black, and financial literature is

812
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: like not good in our community. So to take a

813
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: lot of money up front, it's like, what t I

814
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: say is have buen this plane. Don't just take all

815
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: that money just to say I got I sold my count.

816
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: At least have a plane of what you're gonna do

817
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: put that money, because it's a goal. Just like that

818
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: because when you pay tax and you look at it

819
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: very different.

820
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: So whatever it was, it happen, and didn't you be

821
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: you hear me. I just got a witness of that.

822
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, you took what?

823
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to go sit down. I was like, Yo,

824
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: that's highway robbers, that's that's extortion to get up. I

825
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, man. So that's why we

826
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: got to work hard. So it's like you work hard

827
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: to to not work hard.

828
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 2: So if you have an opportunity to code financial life

829
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: livelihood for the rest of thirty years of the rest

830
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: of your life, why not take that out, you know

831
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because that bank might close. Look at

832
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: what happened with SUV Silicon Valley, right, just think about

833
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: you don't know what can happen in.

834
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: This correct market versus How did verses come to be? Man,

835
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: we was home and during the pandemic, we were.

836
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: Just we we know, we know what tomorrow hole. We

837
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: thought it was fun. We reconnected with people that we

838
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: should have been reconnected with. But we live in the

839
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: world that would move so fast. And I've been saying this.

840
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: I told my friends that we at the world shut down.

841
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah right, but it actually happened. So that means whatever

842
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: something somebody say, do.

843
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: Not say that would never happen.

844
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: You better pay attention when they talk about UFO, pay attention.

845
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: So when the pandemic, it was just me and Switzerland.

846
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: We just had a conversation about just life. We was

847
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: and I was happy to talk to my friend like

848
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know. We was like best of friends until

849
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: we start sharing like our personal story. Instead happened with

850
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: us what happened to us, what happened with us in life,

851
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: our personal story.

852
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: And then I just called him one day. I started antagonizing.

853
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, what you're gonna do with this beat?

854
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: And I just started like doing beat battles because we

855
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: did it one time before and TMZ picked it up

856
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: when I played the Game of Thrones and he was

857
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: We talked about, you know, going at each other, and

858
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: we did it on Instagram. And then he had we

859
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: had the idea when we did summer jams, like do

860
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: this album where I do Timbo side, he do Swiss side,

861
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: like a versus versus Timbo. And then we tried the

862
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: whole thing out really in Hot ninety seven and the

863
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: summer jam and.

864
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: It really worked. But you know, everybody was outside, you

865
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: know when the people outside the world go, they were

866
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: just doing the most. So I knew technology.

867
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: I said, once it shut down, I kind of had

868
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: a you know, God put on my heart like technology

869
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: was gonna be the new wave. It's gonna come in

870
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: like a storm because we shut down, that's the only

871
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: way to communication. So I called Swiss. I said, man,

872
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: remember that idea. We had three and a half years.

873
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: You know, the idea we did the vert that would

874
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: battle on each other. Let's let's let's do that here,

875
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: let's do that on Instagram, Let's do it now.

876
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: And it was I tell you it was.

877
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: God, you know, moving the universe in the right direction

878
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: to where it was no problem. And I think what

879
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: sparked that up with D Nice. D Nice was djam

880
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: and everybody was on it.

881
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: We was all jamming at D Nice and I was like, man,

882
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: what can we do, you know, saying to myself and

883
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: I called switch. I'm like, remember you know the idea

884
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: that we had that we did it some some of jail.

885
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: Let's do it right here on the ground. He's like

886
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: when I said right now, he said right now? I said, yeah,

887
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: why not? All right, let's give me an album, get

888
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: my get my set up. And I said, all right,

889
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: i'm'a get my setup. And we when we sparked it off,

890
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: it was all because of the love. So when we

891
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: did it, we only had thirty thousand people for people

892
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: ate it, but it spread it and then once it

893
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: spread it, we all came together as a as a

894
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: team and like we got something here right, And we

895
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: just took control of a situation because I knew to

896
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 2: really build, like the platform we want to build really

897
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: takes about two years. And the idea when you want

898
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: to get your idea out, you don't got two years,

899
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: Like you need to show the world. Yeah, and so

900
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: we just you know, as we just jumped out and

901
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: did our thing, and God bless it to where it

902
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: caught on like wildfire. And I thank him because he

903
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: allowed us to know how to follow the lead, because

904
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: some people get that that spark plug and then go

905
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: away from him. But I gotta think Swisch, Swiss is

906
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: a smart businessman. Like soon as we saw it and

907
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: how people was embracing it.

908
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, we gotta call it. We gotta have

909
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: a meet. What are we doing? This is what we're doing.

910
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: I said, right, we're doing this this. We gotta get

911
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: the trademark. We gotta do this.

912
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: And then people was like, oh, he ain't gonna last

913
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: more past the pandemic.

914
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: But me and Swiss knew that this was the new

915
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: soul train. This was a new phenomenon, right, this was

916
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: something that's gonna go beyond the pandemic. And we just

917
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: had to believe because we had haters saying, oh, blah blah,

918
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Once he heard what we were doing,

919
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: and then we knew as the culture what I love

920
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: about the culture, Like they kind of like like a

921
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: bunch of missies, like they be like that, ain't it that?

922
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Ain't it? And then you gotta work past that? Ain't

923
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: it to be? Like then they be on the line, I.

924
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: Thank you, I thank you for doing this. You don't

925
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: know how much idea but you was on last week

926
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: he was.

927
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: Like, why y'all giving me this verse? Why are you? Like?

928
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: All right, mama auntie, we got you. You know, I

929
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: know you won't corn breadge. I'm gonna go get your

930
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: but bear with me. So that's how vers it was.

931
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: And it's like we really stood tall on that and

932
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: got past that. And I could tell you another thing.

933
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: It made us feel good to my soul, right, you

934
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And to see it get to

935
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: this point to where we're elevating. Now we're getting too

936
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: the real business of it and negotiating certain things.

937
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: And I just thank God that he allowed a.

938
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: Tool was already in place for us to invent our

939
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: tube that we had, So what can we expect from versus?

940
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: And we see the artists when they did this, the

941
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: album sells a lot of these artists hadn't put out

942
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: music in a very long time, and we see theirselves

943
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: go through the roof everybody go and forget just how

944
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: great the artists were and go back out and purchase

945
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: some of their music and start that all over again.

946
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: So what can we expect from Versus moving forward? Man,

947
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: we can expect the same the versus effect, and we

948
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: tell people how real that is, Like we're showing a

949
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: new business versus really a new business show.

950
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: Like catalogs like you said, that never been heard. It's

951
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: got kids going back listening to it. Right, Versus is

952
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: a tool of the future of not just like rebirth

953
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: of cauntalog that people might have because we sell them

954
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: the catalog, But how do you get those catalogs to

955
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: be heard again? Right?

956
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: Versus is that platform. So what we got going forward

957
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: is we're trying to do bigger Versus. We got we

958
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: got we got a couple lined up. But you know,

959
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 2: like now that everybody outside is scheduling, right, so we're

960
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: working on this capsule. But we got some we got

961
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: some big ones. Okay, I got some battles. I wanted

962
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: you to know, tell me Chris Brown Usha battle Chris

963
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: Brown versus Usher.

964
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: That's one of our top ten is too. You know

965
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: it can happen. We don't.

966
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: We we know it can happen. It's a matter of

967
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: time because it's good for the culture. And that's a

968
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: good one, Doctor Dre Quincy Jones, I see that one.

969
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: That will kind of be amazing.

970
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 2: Well that's the only one. I mean, can't nobody else

971
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: battle Drake. Can't nobody else battle Doctor Dre. But Quincy

972
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: can't know one battle Quincy?

973
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: But Drake. That's it? You think? So who else you

974
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: gonna throw it? Quincy? Sixty years Quincy was Ain't nobody

975
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: can battle Quincy, That's what I'm But I'm saying, if

976
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna throw anything at him, it's got to be Dre.

977
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: From Sinatra to Ray Charles to Michael Jacks. Lastly, come on, man,

978
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: that's like you you just said Sonata. How do somebody

979
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: come out to Sonata? I don't know, but.

980
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: That I can see that. But are we missing like

981
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: what about like gambling huff? Me personally, I ain't battling

982
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: Quincy Jones. That's why I say gambling huff because you

983
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't you went like segments of people from Frank Sinatra.

984
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: The only one that guy like that type of.

985
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: Is gambling huff like people who don't like from the

986
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: style listic's the only way down like it. But I

987
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: do like the Dre comparison. But I'm like, when you

988
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: just said all what he done, I'm like, wait, man, wait.

989
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: But Dre, I mean, you know, from Dre from Snoop

990
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: the Park in all those that he I mean, so

991
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I want I just want to hear

992
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: the song.

993
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: I like the playlist of the of the of the two. Yes,

994
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: I think, but you want to get twenty? Now you

995
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: only get twenty. I ain't somebody don't camera come, you know,

996
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: nobody got nobody got to listen to all these music.

997
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: See.

998
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: Now that's the thing. Like Qutch ain't gonna just go

999
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: for twenty. He said, Man, I gotta go up. Quit's

1000
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: gonna hit us with a series. Yeah, he's gonna be

1001
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: like the first series did you joint? You know what

1002
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, he gonna hit you with a series,

1003
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Like you can't just get him. You can't get twenty, Okay,

1004
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: Drake and hold that would be a good one would

1005
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: I rather to see hole and nas really yes, So

1006
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: if you gotta put some money else So if you

1007
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: if you hey, hey, your money, you gotta put a

1008
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: meal down.

1009
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: Holding nods. I gotta put a meal down either either one. Yeah,

1010
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: the winner, I'm gonna have to say, you get five Hondred,

1011
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: you get both of y'all are winners. Like that's that's

1012
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: hoving nods O Prince and Michael whooa. So you know

1013
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be.

1014
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: It's more difficult than you think because Prince was a

1015
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: writer and.

1016
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: People forget that. And now I'm about to go on

1017
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: your side. I'm on your side with that one. I'm like,

1018
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: you probably get mad they see this, but don't you that, Prince.

1019
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: It's said written, composed and produce and composed and produces

1020
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: the same thing. So when is composed some extra stuff?

1021
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying.

1022
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: So like, that's serious, bro.

1023
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: So I was thinking like the whole creation of like

1024
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: doing that, like because I want to see that. I

1025
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: want to I want like people to pick the best

1026
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: from his family twenty and the Jackson family.

1027
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: Picked Day twenty. That will be amazing because you know

1028
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: this technology. Ye, we put the hologram up. Yeah, we're

1029
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: gonna love it. Yes, we're gonna go create the new technolo.

1030
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna go cras since we got the hologram, we

1031
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: got the technology. Yeah, Tupact, Biggie. You know, that's what

1032
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: the world weighing. That's what we're all waiting for. Yeah,

1033
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for it. I wait for it like logs

1034
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: and people. To me, it's like, let me be let us,

1035
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: let me. It's sposed to be creative, don't judge it.

1036
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: People are like, we don't play with that, don't play

1037
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: with the dead, don't do that.

1038
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: I get it. But it's like it's music, right. I

1039
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: want to hear the music. I want to know what.

1040
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: I want to relive these memories again.

1041
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I really think the TUPAC

1042
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: and Biggie it's necessary, right, And don't I know people

1043
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: are probably gonna be upset. I just think of live too. Yes,

1044
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: I just don't know. You know what I'm saying. I don't.

1045
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't know who you're gonna put her against. That's

1046
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: what I don't know. But she needs to be in

1047
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: this conversation Whitney and Mariah that needs to be done.

1048
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: I like that.

1049
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: Look at that playlist Mariah and Whitney. Do you know

1050
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: do you know how they gonna go out the roof?

1051
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: That's a that's that's that's actually a fut I'll run

1052
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: to see that one first for you.

1053
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: Not the biggest tube part, but that one, right, because

1054
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: that sets a tone. It's it gets the world ready, right,

1055
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: it sets a sentimental tone, and it's like.

1056
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: Mariah, we gonna cry, We're gonna be emotional, and Mariah

1057
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: gonna bring it because she gonna talk, her talk, and

1058
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 2: them songs back to back right, and just us seeing it.

1059
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: You know, they try these these documentary what I Wanna dance.

1060
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: But that's really the I wanna dance with somebody if

1061
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: we did a versus I wanna dance what everybody want

1062
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: to do? This documentary, Whitney, It's really the verses, like

1063
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: what you just said, Whitney and Mariah Carey, who can

1064
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: we put a dail against? I would love to see

1065
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: Adl go really against Alicia again.

1066
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I know Alicia did John that that was great,

1067
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: she did that one, But I really I would wanna

1068
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: see Alsha again with Adell.

1069
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: Mmm I don't know if anybody ever thought about this one?

1070
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: What about b and reread? You know, like, who can

1071
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: we put against be?

1072
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: Is there anybody that we can put against Breatha Franklin.

1073
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: It can't. It can't mean nobody from her era. No, no,

1074
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: it can't. She she she she has to a stand alone.

1075
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: It has to be a Reatha Franklin. There has to

1076
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: be somebody of some something that's somebody that's here if

1077
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: the legend is here or a legend, it's not She's

1078
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: a stand alone.

1079
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: Who can we put against Marvin Gaye, the Pendergrass or

1080
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: Luther Barry White. I'm trying to think, Sam Cook, I mean,

1081
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: who who would you like to see battle?

1082
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: Marvin? The name of you just said?

1083
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: You said you said it like four, I said, I

1084
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: started out with Marvin Teddy Teddy p.

1085
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: I think Teddy Well, I said, what turn it off?

1086
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: The likes I'm doing, I'm doing like a Collidge in

1087
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: my head. Oh that's a good that's a good playlist.

1088
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: Not only that, versus Versus is a curated thing. So

1089
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: it's like your curation is act is it's.

1090
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: Accurate because I'm looking at playlisting because like you said,

1091
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: were raising catalog. And that's what Switch is great at.

1092
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: It's curating these playlists and the whole like the versus

1093
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: genre of someone because when people go back and listen

1094
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: to the playlist and when you put I ain't know

1095
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: they had that song, I don't know you do that,

1096
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: it's act And now you got more musics to in

1097
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: your car, right you know, Now you're like, oh, the

1098
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: versus is Marvin and Teddy. So now you go on

1099
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: your Apple Music You're like, wow, but Teddy. I mean

1100
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: people don't remember this, but Teddy used to have female

1101
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: only concert. Turn that female only. That's why I say, hmmm,

1102
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: that's a mean one.

1103
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: You mentioned Aaliyah seeing she's movies. How big would she

1104
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: have been had she not tragically lost her life but

1105
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: she headed to I mean because we see Beyonce Beyonce

1106
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: saying the movies. Was she going to be Beyonce before Beyonce?

1107
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: I think it would have probably been this how well,

1108
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:43,959
Speaker 2: I think it would have been.

1109
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: Four girls? What five Missy Beyonce?

1110
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: I said, you know, like five light top notch girls,

1111
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: Missy Beyonce, Aaliyah, Rihanna, it's another girl too, NICKI. I

1112
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: think she would have been in those top five. I

1113
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: don't know if she would have beat or been we

1114
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: don't know that, but she would have been top five.

1115
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: Top three, maybe another guy that produced a songwright. I believe.

1116
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: You can separate art from an artist. You can say

1117
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: what he produced and what he did was unbelievable in

1118
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 2: the art form and be disgusted by what he did

1119
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: as a person. And that's all Kelly.

1120
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: And sometimes because the depravity and.

1121
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: What he did, you like, when you throw everything that

1122
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: he's done you artistically away. I don't believe you can

1123
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: do that. No, I believe you can separate the two.

1124
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 2: Yes you can, I have I agree. I agree talk

1125
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: about Kelly the art artists.

1126
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: There's nothing to try to downplay or whatever he did

1127
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: outside of the music round because we know R. Kelly

1128
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: is the king of R and B. We all know

1129
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: that man. And it's funny.

1130
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: I'm glad you talk about that because I'll be having

1131
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: talked to everybody jump. When he said okay, I'm like,

1132
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 2: so we're just gonna ignore his music that he gave

1133
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 2: with it, we all jammed to no, we can't do that, right.

1134
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: His art is his art.

1135
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna bastard, but he ain't the only one

1136
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: that got some things, and it's had some things, got

1137
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: some things in the closet, but we still listen to.

1138
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: The music exactly.

1139
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: And to me, we have to learn how to I

1140
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: think as a culture we have to learn how to

1141
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: separate that. And if I said, okay, who can bottle

1142
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: r Kelly, I don't want to see in the comments

1143
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: how you gonna have this hype. Don't mix music up

1144
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 2: with personal. Music is a feeling that stands alone. Music

1145
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: is something that don't have no race, that brings people together.

1146
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,479
Speaker 2: They don't have no drama with it. It's a place

1147
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: of enjoyment, of feeling. So don't bring drama into music.

1148
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: Leave that outside his art, his his art. I say

1149
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: the same thing about a lot of people. You know

1150
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: that they're a great artists, but we look at what

1151
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: they do on a personal level and try to disqualify

1152
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: the art.

1153
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: You can't do that.

1154
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 2: I'm looking at some of the guys, some of the

1155
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: people that you work with, from Rihanna to Beyonce, Ludicrous

1156
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: k New, Maria Brandy, Lisia Keys, Ross, Pete Poblo Pastor,

1157
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 2: Detroit brother Sparks.

1158
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: How do you how do you go about with these.

1159
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at these guys.

1160
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: This is a who's who, and then you go Michael Jackson, Nellifertado,

1161
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: Minis Cyrus, Elton John, Shakiro, Katie Perry, Brad Paisley, One Republic, Nickelback, Biscuit,

1162
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: Lindsay Lohan, Coldplay, from you all over the math.

1163
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know. I didn't never you

1164
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: said all them, but I just now noticed it.

1165
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: I just look at it like my job his music,

1166
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter the genre of music and be country,

1167
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: it can be you know, R and B, can be pop.

1168
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: I could do whatever because I know I'm gonna bring

1169
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: my swag to it. So to me, it's like another

1170
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: day at the office. Let's go do it like it's

1171
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: a challenge. It was a challenge, and like because I'm like,

1172
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: what do y'all want from me? We want you, okay,

1173
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: well you want a little bit of what you used

1174
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: to whip me on top? Just do you you really

1175
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: want that? That's what I say, all right, and they

1176
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: allow it and we made history. Who you been most

1177
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: surprised by that gave you a call and said we

1178
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: want you Elton John, because I'm like Elton me. But

1179
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: I had an idea when I got in the studio.

1180
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want you to say, I just

1181
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: want you to play, and I'm gonna put a choir

1182
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: around your playing. Okay. So he was like, so what

1183
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: are you going to play? Whatever? Go So you tell

1184
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: Elton John to just play, You're gonna put something around him?

1185
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Is that normally what you do? Or do they ask

1186
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: for the like okay, this this is what I have. Okay,

1187
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: how do you enhance it? Well?

1188
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I came Elton John was following

1189
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: my lead because he's like the he's the He's the goat,

1190
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: and I'm young timbo. I had this vision, so it

1191
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: was like he was following my lead. You know what

1192
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, because it wasn't what I guess he was

1193
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 2: used to working with. But I knew who Elton John

1194
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: and his talent, and I knew I was My favorite

1195
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: song was Been in the Jet. Yeah, like and I

1196
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: knew at all and I was like love all his music.

1197
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: So it's like I just wanted to play. I don't

1198
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: want to sing because I don't.

1199
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: Know how much Flipp was singing, which I could have,

1200
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: but I just want him to I want to showcase

1201
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: his art or what he gifted was, and it's playing.

1202
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: So I said this, I had this beat. I said,

1203
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: just play to this, let's play and I'm gonna put

1204
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: the choir to it. And he just let me do

1205
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: what I do. And he came back and I played

1206
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: it for him. He was shocked.

1207
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: He was like, wow, you work with artists, that's what

1208
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: you normally do, but how different is it collabing with

1209
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: a producer.

1210
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: Scott's story.

1211
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: You pro collab with you know, collabing with an artist

1212
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: a Beyonce or you know somebody that sings and you

1213
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: producing the beats.

1214
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: But now you got another producer and they do what

1215
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: you do.

1216
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: That was the fun because now you meeting like minded people.

1217
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 2: And Scott was always dope, you know, Scott was dope.

1218
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: And when I did carmelon River, I was just me beatboxing,

1219
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, all that stuff, and I say, I need

1220
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: Scott to play them chords over top of that, and

1221
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: I called Scott. He was right there and he did

1222
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: it and he started adding his sauce. I knew Scott

1223
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 2: was always he was incredible, right, you know what I'm saying.

1224
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: Scott had a a gift I guess Scott is like,

1225
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: you know, I look at Quincy, you know, as he

1226
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: developed his team at that younger age.

1227
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. And Scott was the guy with

1228
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: all the soul f you know, the roots knew who

1229
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: he was. That's why they That's why he came up

1230
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: with the roots and all that. And Scott was like

1231
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: a perfect person to collab with because it's like Lebron

1232
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: and a d you know, you put a great team together.

1233
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: Like I could pass the ball to him. I know

1234
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: he gonna get twenty. You know what I'm saying that Scott.

1235
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Scott was the guy. His soul was just

1236
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: like my soul. We was like musical soul brothers. Right.

1237
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: Working with Hove, you guys go back and you see, yeah, definite,

1238
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: give him flowers.

1239
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 2: What the money he's making. You know, I want to

1240
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: have hob over here. I want to give him his flowers.

1241
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, get him and got that guard.

1242
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. For sure.

1243
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: You go in the studio and you work with Hop

1244
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: obviously early in his career. But do you know, no, Hove,

1245
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: it's gonna turn out to like go from what he was.

1246
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: He talked about cooking on the stove, standing on the corner,

1247
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: to rapper, the entrepreneur, to a multi billionaire. You know,

1248
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad we talked about this guy. Never really like

1249
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: Jay Z is a prophet. I don't know if y'all

1250
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: read the Bible, of any scholars of the Bible.

1251
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: God sent him like I never seen. I never seen

1252
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: nothing nobody like ho Hove actually raised me. He don't

1253
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: even know it. He raised me in the music business.

1254
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 2: He was so prolific, so wise beyond his age that

1255
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: I was just amazed at just watching him. That's why,

1256
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: like I had a different bond with Jay when it

1257
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: comes to my music.

1258
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: It was like we was rewriting the Bible in a way,

1259
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: or rewriting history as it's gonna be. How jay Z

1260
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: foresaw the world going forward.

1261
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: Shannon, I ain't seen nothing like it. When I say,

1262
01:01:54,440 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: this guy speak multiple languages. We did Picasso. That wasn't

1263
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: the first version.

1264
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: The first version was like all the Hebrew language and

1265
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: all like the Jews. He was just breaking it down,

1266
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: and that's when I realized, like, this got not human.

1267
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,439
Speaker 1: He's different. I learned about chess from him. I learned

1268
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: a lot of things just being around him. So for me,

1269
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: it was like going to Black Harvard University watching Moses

1270
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm his I'm I'm following him as he

1271
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: leaders through the desert right because Jay I knew he

1272
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: was destined for greatness. I knew it. I'm watching the

1273
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: next biggest thing. Since I don't wanna say Elvis, I

1274
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: don't wanna say I wanna say now, I wanna say THEMN.

1275
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: I wanna say e T Wow. Because when ET came out,

1276
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: it shook the world just and that was a movie.

1277
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying to you, Hoa's movie. Well he did that

1278
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: that that DJ CALLI song. People should really take that, yes,

1279
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: and really chew it and really used that for a

1280
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: guidelines of your life. Jay Z gave you raps that

1281
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: can help your business. That's how powerful that man slays

1282
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: me on Anywhere on God's Green Earth out trip of

1283
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: my network.

1284
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: So when you I age now, you gotta look back.

1285
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: That man was twenty two. He does give you a

1286
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: blueprint of what you can become exactly from what he

1287
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: was to what he is. And he he told he

1288
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: taught me so much, bro, And I'm glad I was

1289
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: a student to get to see it. You've had some

1290
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: struggles in your life. You had an addiction.

1291
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I did, and you said you weren't tim And

1292
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: not only did it effect you, affected impacted others around you. Yes,

1293
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: How did this addiction come about? Not really being sure

1294
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: who I am? You know a lot of people. I

1295
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: can say this now when we talk about haters, it's

1296
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: really the enemy and the enemy. I was fighting the

1297
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: enemy within me. I was married at the time and

1298
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: doing things, you know, not really knowing who I am,

1299
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: chasing things that's false and just life just got a

1300
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: little bit aggressive. It got the best of me. And

1301
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: so to deal with all the pressures of life. It

1302
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: started with a dentist taking Viking. Then the Viking. It

1303
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: made me feel like superman. It made me get over everything.

1304
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I just c I

1305
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: w I find myself just taking it all the time,

1306
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: had a doctor that was giving it to me, and

1307
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: all the times. My mama, my mom was a great

1308
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: prayer warrior. She was in the church, and she told

1309
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: me she had a dream of me being like, uh,

1310
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: my face was turning blue or something like that. And

1311
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: then I was on it like for like I was

1312
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: taking like one hundred and sixty milligrams a day of

1313
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: oxy cotton. Wow.

1314
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 2: And everybody that I know who've done that has died,

1315
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I think I even died.

1316
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: You know, at one point in time where I got out,

1317
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: I had a out of body experience where I was

1318
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: laying in the bed and I saw myself laying in

1319
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: the bed. And from that point on, you know, God

1320
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 2: has changed my mind. And I didn't go to a doctor.

1321
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1322
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: I did a cold turkey here. I just started weaning

1323
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: myself off. And you can put pills in front of

1324
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: my face. I could just look at it and be like, cause.

1325
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna sit here and hold you. I be

1326
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: like it, Well it it feels great, it's amazing, but

1327
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: it's not amazing, right, you know what I'm saying.

1328
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: So I try to be an advocate and talk about

1329
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: that anything is possible if you put your mind to it.

1330
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: And I put my mind to it. With the help

1331
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: of God in praying, he weaned me off. I didn't

1332
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: have to go be on another drug to get off

1333
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: of drug.

1334
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: Did did the pil addition impact your marriage? Did that

1335
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:08,959
Speaker 1: have a roller?

1336
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: I think if it impact my whole life. God took

1337
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: me to the to the bottom where that when I

1338
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: got divorce. You know, the voice is like that dang.

1339
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: Like a business, you destroys you. You lose everything, You

1340
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: lose everything. So for me, you know, it just not

1341
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 2: it just it was a self reflection for me. So

1342
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: I didn't mind going back to the crushing place, you know,

1343
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: because God needed to wake me up. You know what

1344
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like i'ma I'm gonna redeem you, but I

1345
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: gotta humble you too. I gotta break you down and

1346
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: make me realize because a lot of things in life

1347
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: I was taking for granted. You know, when we're young,

1348
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 2: we get money. It's just a lot of things I

1349
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 2: was taking for granted. And I just start appreciating little

1350
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 2: things like be able to scratch, you know, be able

1351
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: to still run, like my organs still work, that I still.

1352
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: Can, got my right mind. You know, it was just me.

1353
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: The drugs had me because I was an introvert, and

1354
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: I felt like that being an introvert ain't gonna get you.

1355
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna get you paid because you just you

1356
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: can't be quiet. You gotta go out and men. So

1357
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: the drugs helped me to do that. But people start

1358
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: to notice, like, tell me, all right, did did did

1359
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: your work slip because of the pilling? Oh? Did it?

1360
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: God took my hair in a way he took me.

1361
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear, right. I remember I

1362
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: was in the studio with Tanache and I was playing

1363
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: this beat, and now I think.

1364
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: What I thought about it.

1365
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: I was like, that was the waggist beat ever but

1366
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: in my head. But I was still going through recovery stage,

1367
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: so I shouldn't have really gotten into that room.

1368
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: But because I ain't know quit it, I'm gonna. I'm

1369
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: gonna do it. But I know through me still getting

1370
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: off of the drug, I still.

1371
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: Had some relapse that still wasn't correct, and it wasn't

1372
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't hear properly, so I I was just I

1373
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: was trying to get back at something that God gave me.

1374
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: So I neglect the gift. I neglect music. I thought

1375
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: I was bigger than music, and that's not how it works.

1376
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, you got to give God all the glory

1377
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: for what you have, your gift, and don't get above

1378
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: the gift. And I got above the gift, and the

1379
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: drugs have me like I'm Timbo. Everybody canna come to me.

1380
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 1: And then when I realized ain't nobody coming to me?

1381
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and my energy is wearing

1382
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: off on the world and I didn't even know it.

1383
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: In social media stuff I was saying with this all.

1384
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, reporters that yet told you said, man, don't do

1385
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 2: no interviews. Yep, that's what I'm trying to say. He's

1386
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: a prophet, you know. Even Drake told me. Drake, that's

1387
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: why I said, That's why I look at people like

1388
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: those guys. Those guys are like special to the world,

1389
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 2: Like you know, Drake, I think I did something talk

1390
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 2: crazy on one Revolt and Dre's.

1391
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: Like, yo, man, you don't want to do that and

1392
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: have to go back and apologize later, like you want

1393
01:08:58,800 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: to check it.

1394
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: Like I commend people like that for correcting me and

1395
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: on my behavior. Chris Brown corrected me on my behavior.

1396
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: So I commend people because that's what we need, even

1397
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 2: though it might cut to the night. Still, I don't

1398
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 2: look at it as what's up what you're trying to say.

1399
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't look at it as a.

1400
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: Bee that used to be, that used to be how

1401
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 2: we community raised kids, we're growing up. If the elderly

1402
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 2: people of somebody older than you saw you do it wrong,

1403
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: they say, Tim.

1404
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Still, no curse, You too young to curse?

1405
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: Are you too young to still? You too young to smoke?

1406
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: But somehow we lost that now that if we see

1407
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: other blacks and we try to correct them, let that

1408
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: man live you being an other time, you speaking man,

1409
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 2: speaking negative. But they thought enough of you, they say, man,

1410
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: Tim to.

1411
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: Say you man. That's why I say it's love. That's

1412
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: why I love it like I because nobody got to

1413
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: say nothing to watch you fall right, you know what

1414
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now, Once they give you the information, it's

1415
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: up to YouTube to do to do what you do. Now.

1416
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: I didn't do it as much because the drugs had

1417
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: a little bit more told. Once I started breaking myself off,

1418
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 2: winning myself off divorce, then all this stuff started coming

1419
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 2: out in my divorce, like who was doing this byd

1420
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: you know, not saying behind my back, but stuff I

1421
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: wasn't paying attention to right because I fought me because

1422
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 2: I could have if it be something different, if.

1423
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: I was paying attention right. So I can't say, oh,

1424
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: nobody did me wrong because the drugs had my mind

1425
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: and thinking that I'm gonna always be this, i'm'na always

1426
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: do that, which is kind of like you kind of

1427
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: need that mentality because that mentality kept me going. I

1428
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: didn't like how the mentality came on from a drug abuse.

1429
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: If it was just me being natural, being like, all right,

1430
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: that's what it is, because it allow me to get

1431
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: out of the situation.

1432
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: It's that makes us great, that also makes us most

1433
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: vallible exactly. He rose in the villain and one a

1434
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: what is a Timbo studio session?

1435
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, is there you know? Is there ambionce

1436
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: going on? You got? I mean? What was it? We

1437
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: coming in? We gotta okay, we got a student time

1438
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: you normally you're said what time? Which okay? Which area

1439
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about? Okay, I guess the young the young,

1440
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: the young dudes, they cover that thing at like midnight,

1441
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: two o'clock two as that's how I used to start, Okay.

1442
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: I didn't go still till like one o'clock. So what

1443
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: dare you doing? What mean? What you ain't got job

1444
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: to fleet? Like a fan part. I'm gonna tell you

1445
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: I was, I was gone and I was gone. I

1446
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: keep the shades down.

1447
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 2: I was in the dark, bro, I was in get

1448
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 2: out for real, like for real, like for real, like

1449
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 2: I tell people now, people tell me on lean and stuff.

1450
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: I be like, I know the feeling, I know the

1451
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: goodness of it, but I know the bad outweighs the good.

1452
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: I slept with the shades down, like who sleeps in darkness?

1453
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: I never wanted the shaves up. I constantly just oh,

1454
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 2: the sunlights hurt my eyes. That's darkness, man. Like I

1455
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: ain't start, I ain't come out to the dark. And

1456
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: I felt like, you know, I look back at it

1457
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: like now and for real, always.

1458
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: Had to like nine to five, I'm out of there.

1459
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: I like nine to five. I get started TI twelve o'clock,

1460
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was like, but

1461
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: now I look at it like I get better because

1462
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, I train, I work out, I take care

1463
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: of your body. I do all of that.

1464
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: So I started around about like twelve, and I try

1465
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: to stop it like nine because my brain, Look, I

1466
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: ain't got no more juice of it, me, bro, I ain't.

1467
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna we got two hits today, right okay? Because

1468
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: after that, I know it's gonna be bull crap. I

1469
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: ain't gonna fool myself. I'm going home and watch some TV,

1470
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:25,839
Speaker 2: watch your show.

1471
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: One. Then I go back and go back into a beat.

1472
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: So coming to a Timulus session today, it's like I

1473
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: go in there with my team, a young producer and

1474
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 1: I going there and be and be coach coach simbo

1475
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: and going there dictate no this, move this, let's change this,

1476
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: let's do this, and we going there. We make about

1477
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 1: three or four four hot ones and like, let's go,

1478
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: let's go live life, Let's go look at some TV.

1479
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: Le's read a book, Let's go look at something. Because

1480
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: you can't just sit in there. It's constant do music.

1481
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: This repetition. It's repetitious. And after a while, you like

1482
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: you kind of like overloaded. You have to like take

1483
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: a break. And I've learned that through time, like taking

1484
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: a break helps you recover.

1485
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: That I watch you, follow you on social media, and

1486
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: I see that you work out, You spend a lot

1487
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: of time, and I want to commend you on that

1488
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 2: because I like to see when brothers take care of

1489
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: themselves and that their health is a big party. And

1490
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: mean wealth doesn't mean anything if you're not healthy. Yep,

1491
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: And so to see you do that and see the

1492
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: transformation that you put your body through. And you did

1493
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: it all through hard work.

1494
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: Thank you. You inspired me. Look how you look? Ill?

1495
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: I tell my coach Phil sitting over there. I tell

1496
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: them all. I said, man, look how Shannon look. Man,

1497
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: I hope you don't ever take off his shirt? See

1498
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: to me? Said he said, he got hip replaced. I

1499
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: said him, don't look bad. Come on here, like, yo,

1500
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: it's you the rock.

1501
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, being fifty is like being twenty all over.

1502
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: And my dad just had two strokes and you know,

1503
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: and God bless him. He still you know, didn't lose

1504
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 2: too much. Don't have you know, it's got a little speech.

1505
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: Got hit by eighteen wheel of randover back and forth.

1506
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 1: That's all. The thing he did was poo poo on

1507
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: the self. You know what I'm saying.

1508
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: So I look at the bloodline of a family, my dead.

1509
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yo, I've been on heavy narcotics.

1510
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: My kids. I want to be I don't and I

1511
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: just I don't want to be lazy. I don't. I

1512
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: know that I'm better than this. And I always had vision.

1513
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: I look in the mirror. Some people can look at

1514
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: you know they weight and everything. I was just one

1515
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: who always saw when I look at say huge your

1516
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: own beddest the rock, I'm like, see that's I got

1517
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: that bone structure.

1518
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: I pulled a fit like where they go line each

1519
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: other up. I want to stand at least I'm at

1520
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: the end of the line. I said that as we

1521
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: look at athlete, and I just started like, yo, I

1522
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: could be like that. But then I always like food

1523
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: used to be a part of it, till I have

1524
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 2: to just say, you know what, I'm like, John wigg

1525
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 2: that ship, will you know what?

1526
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: I could do this?

1527
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: And so I just started as like I look at

1528
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: you and I just watch you in the gym. I

1529
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: look at all y'all and I'm like, no, this fifties

1530
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 2: and new thirties, Like you know what I'm saying, look

1531
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: at these look at these guys like that's how you're

1532
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: supposed to look. You're supposed to be healthy, keeping going

1533
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: like you're not supposed to get old.

1534
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: And then it's just just like you only get one car.

1535
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 1: Your body is your car, your one life, you know

1536
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, one life. I mean I got both replaced.

1537
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 2: You can get knee replacement, you know hard lung kidney

1538
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: can replace life.

1539
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: Nah, look I'm looking like it. Look at it. It's

1540
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: like he's twenty years old. Bro.

1541
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: Like I just tell him, I said, man, TV, don't

1542
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: do him justice. The camera's gotta stop. They gotta stop that, bro.

1543
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 2: The camera's adding No, y'all lenses is off. Because I

1544
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: look at the brothers like you still play you like

1545
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 2: y'all t o.

1546
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: All these people I beat. I'm amazing athletes Like I

1547
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 1: took a new liking to all athletes because the abuse

1548
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: that y'all take. The critic people who don't even work

1549
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: out tell you that you you know you talk he made,

1550
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: But have you got on the field, have you lift

1551
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: the weight? Until you start looking at what y'all do

1552
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: and what y'all put your body through. It's a respect

1553
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: that I love. I worked out with Chris Paul and

1554
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: he was like, man, just you being not an athlete,

1555
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: this is what I do for a job, but you

1556
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: come out here and put it in with me. I

1557
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: respect you.

1558
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 2: I would buy anything you selling like you know because

1559
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: you put in the work. And I ain't really understood

1560
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: that until I saw them. I'm like, man, we look

1561
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: at we talk about the big pays that's cool, but

1562
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: what they go through it's what I mean. Everybody sees

1563
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: the pay there, but they don't know the process too.

1564
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: It's just like you.

1565
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, they see the beat, but they don't understand

1566
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 2: what you went through growing up to perfect the craft

1567
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 2: that finally the culmination is okay. Crime a river suit

1568
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 2: and tie beats and all that other thing. They don't

1569
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: see that. All they see is the payoff.

1570
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: That's all this.

1571
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: But see, I have a whole up respect and I

1572
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 2: felt like I came with a program when we call

1573
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 2: push and peaks that I feel like people of our age,

1574
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: our generation talking to the men's it's from forty on up,

1575
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 2: thirty on up. Look, it's not about it's about mental

1576
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: clarity working out. It's cool for the body, but it

1577
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 2: really makes me clear. It gives me a high that

1578
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: I never I can't explain, and it makes me look

1579
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: at life a little different. It takes away anxiety for me.

1580
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: It's just it's just a whole lifestyle, Like it's my

1581
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: whole life, Like I can't I don't like to travel

1582
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: if I like my meals is messed up.

1583
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm very serious with her, Like I'm so serious

1584
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: with it like I'm like, wait minute, what we gotta

1585
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: do for two days? Oh man, let me figure out

1586
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: my schedule. I need it, I need my supplements. I

1587
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: need this and it and I feel good and I

1588
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: have great doctors around me, just just like teaching me

1589
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: about the body.

1590
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 2: Like they said, Yo, Tim, I get your glue coast monitors.

1591
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 2: I said, you know about I ain't got no disease,

1592
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 2: like I'm a hard but no, we want to turn

1593
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: into a fat burning machine, not a sugar burning machine.

1594
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: So I start getting the glue coast monitor, putting on

1595
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 2: my arm and going like this. I'm really all into

1596
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: it because I feel like it's it's allowed me to

1597
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 2: do things like this.

1598
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: You have a conversation where I used to be scared, right, Okay,

1599
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: I didn't used to I didn't think I had enough

1600
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: in me to do this. You know what I'm saying.

1601
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: My education ain't all that great. You know what I'm saying.

1602
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm and it allows me to say, Tim,

1603
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: you good you. I made your your imperfection perfection, right,

1604
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 2: go show your gift. You don't know who you can touch.

1605
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: So I just started this being free and be by

1606
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: me working out and allows me to endorphins in my

1607
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 2: brain to say I'm a better me.

1608
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1609
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: If you take allership of your imperfection, you're frailty is

1610
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 2: then no one can make you feel inferial about it exactly.

1611
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: And when I when I work out with the athletes

1612
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 2: and they go faster, they look at me, and he

1613
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 2: got and Piel got a lot of fighters that come

1614
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 2: in there. He trade all these fighters and they be like,

1615
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I ain't trading all these guys.

1616
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: But he said, no, get in there. That's what you need.

1617
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: Get now. I get in there, and then they look

1618
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: at me.

1619
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: They dap me up, and they really dap me up,

1620
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 2: Like I could tell it ain't just because I'm timbo

1621
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: to can They really like yeah, yo, because that's because

1622
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: that's what we do. We're athletes.

1623
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: We trained. That'll be like if we came in the

1624
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: studio and we did okay on the train, You're like, okay, okay, okay.

1625
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the same thing we're gonna give you yours

1626
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 2: because that's what we do. We train our jobs as

1627
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 2: body and to make sure our body is performing at

1628
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 2: the peak conditioning. Yes, yes, And so I wanted to

1629
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: commend you on that. Let me ask you a question,

1630
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: get you out of him business. Are we gonna get

1631
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 2: a Timbo Missy reunion? And you got anything come? Any

1632
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 2: new music coming out?

1633
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: Yes?

1634
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: We all getting a Timbo Missy. I'm gathering up the

1635
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: sound because it's certain. It's a certain sound that I

1636
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: want her to have at you know, you see how

1637
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 2: good she looks right now. Yeah, she looked like she's

1638
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: twenty years old. Yeah, So I want to give.

1639
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: Her a sound to fit how she looks. And that's

1640
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: my job to get her excited while she's doing all

1641
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: the things because I think she's doing the lovers and friends.

1642
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: She got a lot of festivals coming up. So I'm

1643
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: just gathering all my material to really go sit down

1644
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: with her. I know April is gonna be a busy mutt,

1645
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: but I gotta finish up with her and I'm gonna

1646
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: try it. We're gonna try to put it out around

1647
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 2: her birthday in July. Okay, I got cambot. Appreciate you, brother,

1648
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 2: and this was beautiful brother. Thank you, Bro, I appreciate you.

1649
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 2: Thank you taking the opportunity to sitting down and talking

1650
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: with me.

1651
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: Bro hey man. But look this shay.

1652
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 3: Geez, all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, Hustle

1653
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 3: bad the Price, Wanta slice got the brother.

1654
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: Dis Swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life,

1655
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: all my life and grinding all my life.

1656
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 3: Sacrifice, Hustle bad, the Price one Slice got the brother.

1657
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 3: Dis swap all my life.

1658
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life.