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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged Jack. Super Bowl is picked. We

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Speaker 1: got the Eagles first, the Chiefs, but the Cowboys with

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Speaker 1: a different direction. Brian Schottenheimer, their offensive coordinator thoughts, it's

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Speaker 1: written all over your face.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I expected to be a topic today

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Speaker 2: was the higher that we made for the Cowboy.

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Speaker 1: But you're a Cowboy fan. We're about to celebrate. I

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Speaker 1: have I have no opinion, no opinion like we thought, Dion,

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Speaker 1: might you know entertain that? But I guess not.

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Speaker 3: I guess yeah.

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Speaker 1: We talked to the biggest star over there with your thought.

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Speaker 1: You thought though. Anyway, Man, let's shift gears and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, our brother friend of the program. Keon Dooley,

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Speaker 1: what's having?

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Speaker 4: What's up? Soldier?

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Speaker 3: Ya? Good? Okay?

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Speaker 1: THISZL what's up? Bred Ie? Everything good?

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Speaker 4: Man, slow slow motion holding it down over here down south.

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Speaker 1: You know how we do appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Excited to start getting you some reps on this side

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Speaker 1: working with the company. But let's get down to it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: We had a you know, we had a sit down interview.

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Speaker 1: Uh shortly after you were able to touch touch the

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Speaker 1: soil again. And what has been the feedback? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you were open, you were vulnerable, You told your truth,

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Speaker 1: you you lived up to your mistakes. What was the

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Speaker 1: respond back and how is it kind of getting out

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Speaker 1: and talking because I've seen you on a couple of

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Speaker 1: other podcasts since.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it's been, it's been. It's been a warm reception,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying to a certain degree, to

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Speaker 5: a certain yeah, because I don't listen to the outside noise, right,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: I only love who loved me.

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Speaker 5: So the naysayers, we need them, We need those impressions,

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Speaker 5: We need their their opinions as well, because you got

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Speaker 5: to always have naysayers, you got to have dowters, you

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Speaker 5: got to have haters, right.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I think it was Maino who's said like, if I

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Speaker 5: got a hater, I need more, right because it's like,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's a part.

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Speaker 4: Of the journey.

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Speaker 5: But it's been great man. That interview you know, was

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Speaker 5: a great springboard for me. It was cathartic, you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like I got to release some things

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Speaker 5: that I might have.

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Speaker 4: Been help holding in. It was it was authentic.

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Speaker 5: It was to break that word down from what's that

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Speaker 5: cathartic it's just like a peas. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: You get a release, like when you give something, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, when you put words to things

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Speaker 5: you might be holding on to, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Like, you know, when you kind of you know, you

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Speaker 4: get that.

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Speaker 5: Release and it's like a carthartic experience where you're just like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I got that out right because I don't want to

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Speaker 5: dwell in the past.

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Speaker 4: Right because the future is too bright.

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Speaker 3: So you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It was a great experience. Man. We gotta think.

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Speaker 5: Man, I think we got over two million something impressions. Bro,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, just from the clips and

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Speaker 5: all the different platforms and things like that. Man, So

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate you guys for aligning me that space

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Speaker 5: to you know, share my journey part of my journey

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Speaker 5: on another.

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Speaker 1: And I hope you don't mind that we share this

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Speaker 1: like the real life is kind of kicked in, you know.

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Speaker 1: Job opportunities, I mean, you were known as a great teammate,

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Speaker 1: great dude, you've worked in the league since you've been

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Speaker 1: out the league, But now opportunities, you know, you told me,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to say how many doors but doors

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Speaker 1: have been shut, and like, how does that hit you?

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Speaker 1: Because again, you are a good spirited guy that made

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Speaker 1: a mistake, because owned up to a mistake. But now

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Speaker 1: real life is now real life is real life.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, shit is real, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the day, Like I always worked

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Speaker 5: always been around the game. And that's really the life

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Speaker 5: I'm putting it together, you know what I'm saying. Nobody

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Speaker 5: ain't say that shit was gonna be easy. Nobody didn't

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Speaker 5: say that anyone owes me anything or anything like that. Like,

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Speaker 5: you know, when opportunities don't necessarily like knock at your door,

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Speaker 5: that means you gotta go out of there. You gotta

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Speaker 5: so like you know, at the end of the day, man,

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Speaker 4: But we gonna be, like Kendrick say, we gonna be

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Speaker 4: all right. You know, we ain't gonna be all right.

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Speaker 3: We're definitely gonna be all right. But you know how

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Speaker 3: you know what they say.

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Speaker 2: You know, people that's miserable and people that are having

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Speaker 2: achieved nothing that don't believe in themselves. They have a

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Speaker 2: fan base too, you know. So you know what I'm saying, daughters,

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Speaker 2: lot of you have to have people like that because

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Speaker 2: you are still in the small percentage of people who

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Speaker 3: So yes, understand what it takes to grind and to

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Speaker 2: So that's one plus that you have, My nigga, that's

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Speaker 2: one thing I know about you.

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Speaker 1: You you know.

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Speaker 2: How to hustle and get back, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: And a lot of I don't. I don't relate to

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Speaker 2: people that never been through nothing, KD. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, I don't really because I've been through so

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Speaker 2: much of my life and still want to do something.

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Speaker 2: Like I was just saying, my my niece just got

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Speaker 2: always go through stuff. But the men we are, the

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Speaker 2: pride we taking being protects and providers, it's gonna all

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Speaker 2: and the faith we have in God is gonna always

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Speaker 2: get us through whatever we're going through.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: So I know you're gonna be all right.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's coming together. Bro. I ain't complaining,

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Speaker 5: Like I could have complained when I was on the

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Speaker 5: other side of the walls at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like you know, when you're working,

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Speaker 5: you know, two jobs, you know, in a federal place,

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like that's humbling. Like you know, the

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Speaker 5: things that I'm putting together now are more lucrative, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, more fulfilling. I get to sleep

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I get a new opportunity every day to grow, right,

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Speaker 5: So it's just a part of the journey. Like I ain't,

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Speaker 5: I ain't. One thing you're not gonna hear me do

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Speaker 1: With that being said, we about the halfway point, a

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Speaker 1: little bit past the halfway point of the season. Uh,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some awards and what we've liked

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Speaker 1: thus far and we haven't liked thus far in the season.

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Speaker 1: First up, big years guys that made jumps most improved category.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a bunch of guys out there, but

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Speaker 1: in your mind, KD, who have you seen make the

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Speaker 5: You know what, Matt, It's awesome because there's different kinds

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Speaker 5: There's jumps that, like you know, role players make that

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Speaker 5: make them more impactful, and then there's there's there's jumps

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Speaker 5: I think Kate Cunningham is somebody you kind of got

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Speaker 5: he's made a big jump in the assist category. But

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Speaker 5: the winning plays that he's made. He's always had good stats,

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Speaker 5: but now he's doing it more efficiently and it's translating

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: So, Kate is somebody I think, you know who's made

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Speaker 5: I think uh Dyson Daniels out out in Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: Like he's making winning plays, he's checking the toughest cover

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Speaker 5: We can't discount what Powell has done with the Clippers, right,

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Speaker 5: losing PG, losing losing that kind of bucket, that kind

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Speaker 5: I think Norman has done a fantastic job with that.

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, there's some other guys that you can

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Speaker 1: I like what you said about Kaye his presence. It

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Speaker 1: looks like the game is slowed down for him, and

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Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. Because Detroit's been in the toilet

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Speaker 1: Kate is talking about. And then yeah, me Norman Poweb

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Speaker 1: my Brooin. I don't think anyone saw he would show flashes.

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Speaker 1: He went on runs last year when he was averaging no.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he and James Hardener are a big reason, right,

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Speaker 1: you know why the clips are still afloat. You know

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Speaker 1: why Kawhi is working through some stuff. So I like

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Speaker 1: those stat who's on your radar.

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Speaker 2: I'm going, well, I'm going I'm I'm gonna give some

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Speaker 2: same team though, I'm going from the start with Evan Mobley.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of hard without Lucas. I'm going Dallas, man.

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Speaker 1: Do we know what's wrong with Luca Calf? Okay, yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: It's a few teams that kind of stand out to me.

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Speaker 5: You know, his tentacles, JB Man JB always been a soldier,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't forget. You may come from under that

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Speaker 2: I got two teams where I'm totally disappointed equally. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Lakers didn't have much move in this offseason.

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Speaker 5: your body is, man, sometimes that that that that long

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00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 5: grind didn't give your covery time that you needed in

438
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 5: the off season, especially like after the playoffs, Winn and

439
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 5: b was still struggling with injuries, some freaking injuries.

440
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, wearing tear.

441
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 5: But like they got to get a hold on, you know,

442
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 5: his body because the franchise is in his.

443
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 4: Hands, you know.

444
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 2: And he just started playing basketball to late too, like

445
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 2: we stopped playing at a young age, you know what

446
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

447
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 3: So he just started playing basketball in late two.

448
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I remember luke My Bote, luke My Butta

449
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,200
Speaker 5: used to have him, you know, in Milwaukee with them

450
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 5: and things like that. I ain't both of them are

451
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 5: from Cameroon, if I'm not mistaken, And so like you know,

452
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 5: he developed you know, that talent over time, you know

453
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 5: what I mean.

454
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 1: And it's a tremendous talent.

455
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 5: Gil talks about like, you know, the mindset that you

456
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 5: have to have when you're young to be that guy. Right,

457
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 5: It's hard to develop that mindset to be that guy

458
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 5: at all times.

459
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 4: It's grueling, you know what I'm saying. It's not easy.

460
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 5: To do, and so hopefully he could just get healthy

461
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 5: enough because when we all know, when he's healthy, you

462
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 5: know what I mean, chick's most impossible.

463
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 1: He could be the best player in the world when

464
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 1: he's healthy. And to his defense, somebody, how hard can

465
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 1: he really work in the off season? You know what

466
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean? Too hard? Are you going to get hurt?

467
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 1: You know, in the off season trying to get yourself. So,

468
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: like you said, I think he made a great point.

469
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: They got to get it. He got to get ahold

470
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 1: of his body because he needs He's gonna need that thing.

471
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 1: The biggest apology of this season. A lot of people

472
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: have been written off, whether it be players and coaches,

473
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: and two guys come to mind with me, one being

474
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook and the way he's just been appreciated and

475
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: showing the respect he deserves and the love he deserves

476
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: in Denver and him and Jokich, you know, to be

477
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: able to be teammates that have what had two triple

478
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: doubles in the same game this season. Looks like he's

479
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: having fun, he's smiling, he's talking shit. The crowd loves him.

480
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 1: I mean, his numbers aren't jumping off the page. I

481
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: mean he's thirteen, six and five, but we know in

482
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: any given night he could be your leading scorer, you know,

483
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: at thirty or forty and throw out triple doubles still

484
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 1: and really being able to get along with Yokic. And

485
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: I say second man is James Harden. I love with

486
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: him and obviously we spoke Norman Pealing the last Awards ceremony,

487
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 1: but with you know, nothing short of amazing, you know

488
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: when we've talked a lot about you know, him kind

489
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: of forcing his way out of situations and not coming

490
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: in in shape and then it and no, but he's

491
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: back at the crib and he's really hooping and he

492
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: has his team in the thick of it. I think

493
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: five or six in the West, maybe in sixth place,

494
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: right behind the Lakers. But twenty two, eight and six,

495
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 1: he's someone that could still give you, you know, a

496
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: ton of those big breakout nights. So those two former

497
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City thunder La natives, I really think that everybody

498
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: owes both them an apology. Jack, who you think who

499
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: you got for me? Personal?

500
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: Because I know I was one person killing him after

501
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: the playoffs he had last year against Dallis.

502
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Speaker 3: I'm going cat cat Man, you know in Minnesota.

503
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: In Minnesota, you know, he was shooting all those threes

504
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: in the playoffs and everybody wanted him to be inside

505
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: like man, Cat done.

506
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

507
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: Even Minnesota felt like that and they got him out

508
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: there and some of New York not look at it.

509
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: In New York, you gotta breath like I feel like, yeah,

510
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: big Bode got the balling man, So I got that.

511
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 2: I gotta go with Cat. He always been silid with

512
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: me too, but a lot of pologies need to be

513
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 2: head this way as well.

514
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack, Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely right. And I forgot

515
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 1: about him, and it was interesting to me because I

516
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: thought he's someone that would do well on the big stage.

517
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: And as we mentioned, you know, Minnesota made this trade

518
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: thinking they were better than themselves, and Cat obviously took

519
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: offense to that. And you know he's at twenty five

520
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: and fourteen at the Garden. Every night he's putting on

521
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: at the Garden, and you know he's loving it and

522
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: playing great basketball. Jack, I love that call. Man, shout

523
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: out Cat and what he's been doing.

524
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Speaker 4: This year for sure for me. Jason Tatum, Okay, you know.

525
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 5: Like JT is twenty seven, I think nine or ten

526
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 5: boards a game, five and a half assists, and then

527
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 5: on the defensive end, Boston is one of the best

528
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 5: defensive teams in the game, and they switched pretty much

529
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 5: one through five. So at some point, you know what

530
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 5: I mean, you got to defend. He's rebounding, he's defending,

531
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 5: he's playing championship ball. He's doing it amongst all the noise,

532
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 5: right Like, he gets a lot of.

533
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: Criticism, Hey, you not criticism, he just gets a lot

534
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: of hate. I mean there's podcasts out here that are

535
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, and it's my whole boy, it

536
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: was it Brandon Jinger with Sean mc kantz, one of

537
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: them two from gils Arena. Just I think it was bag.

538
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: I think it was bro like he just be taking

539
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: strays for no reason. And obviously he's coming out. You know,

540
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: keep in mind he's playing with a chip on the show.

541
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: You saw he'd even fuck with Coach Kurkr the other day.

542
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: He's definitely see Coach Kurr Lingery's man, I'm off you.

543
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: You didn't play me at all. But you know the

544
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: discrepancy where everyone wants him and Jayden Brown the butt he has,

545
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: but I'm glad that you know their chemistry is great.

546
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: But I like that call too, Katie. I don't necessarily

547
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: listen to the Jason Tatum slander because I'm a real

548
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: basketball mind and I know how good he is. Like

549
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: the rest of like we know, we don't listen to that,

550
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: Like Jason Tatum, cut that shit out, bro. He's top

551
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: five in the world, so good for sure, class, but

552
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: not least. I mean, some people have this a runaway,

553
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: some people have it a two man race. You can

554
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: throw one more in there if you'd like this season's MVP.

555
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: Let me just run through. Let me run through some

556
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: stuff because right said the same shit earlier. Let's start

557
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: with Yanni's top five in points, rebounds, in double doubles

558
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: thirty one, twelve, and six, and they're currently fourth in

559
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: the East after the start they had. Jokic has better

560
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: numbers than his previous MVP numbers, top three in points,

561
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: rebound and assist thirty, thirteen and ten. The Nuggets have

562
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: the fourth offense in the league and currently sit at

563
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: fourth in the West. And if it's unanimous, if it's

564
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: a no brainer, I think you guys could talk about

565
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: that boy. SGA at thirty two points, five, rebound, six assists, thunder,

566
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: number one in the league, top six offense and defense.

567
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: And they're doing it with someone who came out and

568
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: to me was could have had the breakout. You're the

569
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: most improved player of the year. And Chet, the way

570
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: Chet was playing this year before he got his back

571
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: or lower back injury, he was playing some special basketball.

572
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: So Stack, I'm with you. Uh, this year's MVP will be.

573
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 3: A little boy from Canada. Man.

574
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sir, listen. Not not even just the way

575
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 2: it's playing. Did he played his players like his attitude,

576
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: That's what I think with Like y'all, nobody can't fuck

577
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: with me on off the court.

578
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: I'm the five motherfucker. I'm gonna come give you thirty.

579
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: I ain't.

580
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: I ain't hanging with none of y'all.

581
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: Y'all don't see me out with none of these motherfuckers

582
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 2: talking to him and dropped my bars on my Instagram

583
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: like his whole his whole demean I fuck with. But

584
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: the way he's playing on the court, man, I just

585
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: think he's just showing he he's shown last year. He

586
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: feel like he deserved it, you know what I'm saying.

587
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: He always been in that talks. But this year he's made.

588
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: He's you know, he came in, he came in this

589
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 2: season thinking like you know what, I'm gonna separate myself

590
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: from everybody and force y'all to where it ain't no,

591
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: it ain't no competition. It's it's a shoe wind that

592
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 2: I'm m VP of this season. I think he definitely

593
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: deserves it.

594
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: Rarely are you as cold off the court as you

595
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: are on the court, But that motherfucker s g A

596
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: is cold off the court too. He's got a lot

597
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: of isms to his to his to who he is

598
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: and what he stands for. KD who you got, yep.

599
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna piggyback off of stat Jack. You know,

600
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 5: I think SGA it's his time. I thought last year

601
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: could have been his time as well. I think, you know,

602
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 5: like when we were playing, they diversified who was the

603
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: MVPs because there were certain guys who could really win the.

604
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: MVP every year every year, right.

605
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 5: And sometimes they go by winns, sometimes they go by statistics.

606
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: I think they moved the gold post for certain people.

607
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 4: You know, you know Russ Russ was triple doubling for years, right.

608
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: They did it with me with Steve Nash.

609
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 5: You know, you know, I just think that, like you know,

610
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 5: it's good for the game for SGA to kind of

611
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 5: get that that under his resume, right, especially as the

612
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 5: league gets older and you have new emerging stars. I think,

613
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, this helped sell the game.

614
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 5: You know, though he played ball at Kentucky. You know

615
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: he's from Canada, right, so it is still that international

616
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: though it's North American and international international. Nevertheless, So I

617
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 5: think SGA, with the success that they've had as a

618
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 5: team and just statistically analytically and the winning plays that

619
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 5: he makes, especially in the crunch time, I think SGA,

620
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 5: you know, deserves to get that m v P this year.

621
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: If he stays on his track.

622
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: Let Trump tell it, Ken is gonna be the fifty

623
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: first state. So over here, I agree. I think this

624
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: is our first unanimous. I think SGA is the pick,

625
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: but not only for everything that you guys have mentioned

626
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 1: what he's done, but the way Presty has this fucking

627
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: team set up, you know what I mean, They're gonna

628
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: have some tough decisions to make. I don't think they

629
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: can pay everybody, but the collateral they have the stop

630
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: the picks they have and all the stuff they have

631
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: coming down the pipeline, and then the young team they have.

632
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean with that Williams boy, you

633
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: know obviously Chet what's his name? The lou Dort has

634
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: turned himself into someone you remember when he started bro

635
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: he couldn't even hit the rim on three point like

636
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: they were boring. He's turned himself into an elite three

637
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: point shooter and one of the best defenders in the game.

638
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: And I think one thing we can all appreciate as

639
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: former players. They all fuck with each other heavy. The

640
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: dog pound fucks me and that shit means something you

641
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: can win without. You know, you can have beefs, but

642
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: those teams that I mean, we've all been on teams

643
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: that when everybody fucks with each other just makes that

644
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: shit so much better. Man, the journey is that much sweeter.

645
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: So I definitely think it's unanimous. It's Vegas picks, It's

646
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: DraftKings picks for MVP. Real quickly, before we get out

647
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: of here, I'll be remissed it out mentioning our brother

648
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant Man five years since him and Gigi and

649
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: those others lost their life on that plane. I can't

650
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: believe how fast it's gone by. KD. Give me your

651
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: best Kobe Bryant memory.

652
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Speaker 4: You know what I don't. It's hard to have one out.

653
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: You know. I was at his last game where he

654
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: went off.

655
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Speaker 5: You know, I remember meeting them, you know, fifteen sixteen

656
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: years out in Vegas. I did the round Ball Classic

657
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 5: like I you know, but for me, like the personal

658
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 5: part of Kobe, Like you know, when we play the Lakers,

659
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 5: Kobe's like a k.

660
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Speaker 4: Detail your family.

661
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna come out and say hello, We're gonna take

662
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Speaker 5: pictures for any of your.

663
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Speaker 4: Family or anybody that Like.

664
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Speaker 5: It was those little intimate moments where he took time,

665
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: you know, to just kind of check in with me,

666
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 5: to say hello, to just kind of you know what

667
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: I'm saying, show an extra little bit of love. We

668
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 5: both with Rob Polinka at the time and uh Man

669
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Speaker 5: Cole Just for me, Man, not only was he an

670
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 5: inspiration and a motivation, he just was a.

671
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Speaker 4: Man of respect.

672
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 5: Especially like as he grew in his personality, he made

673
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 5: you feel like you were the only person in the

674
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: room when he would have a conversation with you. So

675
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Speaker 5: I would just say those moments after the game when

676
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 5: he would take pictures with my family, my friends and

677
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Speaker 5: things like that.

678
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: I wish I would have got more pictures with.

679
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 5: Him, you know what I mean, had a new thing

680
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 5: with I know now, but yeah, it was just those

681
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 5: those little intimate moments where he took time out for

682
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Speaker 5: my family.

683
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Speaker 1: Jack has been five years, man, five years. You know

684
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: what comes to mind when you think about coch.

685
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: Uh not only you know the episode, I mean, you know,

686
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: we hold that deal to our heart.

687
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: You know his last interview. I think that means a lot.

688
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm gonna say kind of similar to what

689
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: KD said doing Kobe's farewell tour. He came in played

690
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: here in Atlanta, and I was able to bring my son,

691
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Steve Jor to the game, and like like.

692
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: Kat said, this was his farewell to it.

693
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: So you know, the hall is filled with people, you

694
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, everybody in there. But I mean

695
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: he saw me, you know, Class ninety six beend on

696
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: each other forever, and uh, he saw my son, bro

697
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: He pulled my son to the side. Not only did

698
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: he spend time or something, but it was about thirty

699
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: minutes Matt, you know, the the bus waiting on him.

700
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: Man, they got aligned. But just that, like he said,

701
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: just that the person he was.

702
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: To spend that time with my son, my sonill never

703
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: forget it, because I know I won't ever forget it,

704
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But but but just for

705
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: him to spend that thirty minutes knowing all these people

706
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: waiting on him and knowing how much that meant to

707
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: me and my son, that I just you know, I

708
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: miss him more.

709
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: I missed more as a person in the basketball player.

710
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely man rest in peace to our brother man

711
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: and sending love creativity to the family.

712
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: K appreciate Matt.

713
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: Matt, same question to you, because you know you know

714
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: him just as well as anybody.

715
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think it's the human side that you

716
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: guys mentioned. You know that to the twins, it was

717
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: uncle Kobe, you know what I mean. He literally from

718
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: the time they got there four years old, got every

719
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: shoe release to them boys, and then once they started playing,

720
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: their whole team got every single shoe and literally a

721
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: week before he passed, he's like they got his last

722
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: shoe that he puts out. And then you know, love Vanessa,

723
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, for since Vanessa's been carried it on since

724
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: so these motherfuckers got you take care of me card

725
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: than everybody, you know what I mean. So just the

726
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: love and the way we were able to see that

727
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: the human side of him, you know, him coming to

728
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: the twins are eight years old and he come in

729
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: two hours early to watch them play at eight o'clock

730
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: in the morning, and they don't play, you know, him

731
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: and Gig don't play till ten or eleven, So it's

732
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: just the other shit jack.

733
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Speaker 3: You know.

734
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Speaker 1: Obviously we know how great he was on the court,

735
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: but being able to know the true who he was,

736
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, outside of the MAMPA is something I'll always

737
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, Cherish kt Man, we appreciate your time. We

738
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: will definitely have you back. I love what you're doing, man,

739
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: and you know what we're praying for you. And you

740
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: know you always got a home over here at all

741
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: the smoke bro.

742
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Speaker 5: Appreciate it. Appreciate it, man, Matt. I love to just

743
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 5: give a quick shout out to my.

744
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: Boy Chris Bernard, who just passed man for the next

745
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: you know.

746
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: It's work for the Players Tribune. Had an immense impact

747
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 5: impact on my life. And uh man, we've been working

748
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: on this documentary you know since before I went in

749
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 5: and you know, like I got to make sure I

750
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: bring that to a close, you know, and honor his memory.

751
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: And things like that.

752
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 5: So I just want to take the time, you know,

753
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 5: Rest in peace, my boy, Chris Binard. Thank you for

754
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 5: all that you've done for me and a lot of

755
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: other players across the board.

756
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: Kat one of the real good dudes in the league.

757
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: One of the real good dudes and crazy enough. When

758
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: we did our interview with you in Miami, we you know,

759
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, let me get his number. I

760
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: talked to see being in minute. You know what I

761
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: mean in the fact, like you just never know, never know,

762
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: brother man. Rest in peace to Chris Bernard, KD. We'll

763
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: talk to you soon, bro.

764
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Speaker 4: Okay, camp, I.

765
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Speaker 1: Want to welcome the newest member to the All the

766
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: Smoke Fight family, one half of the dynamic duo Ring Champs.

767
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: I want to welcome right now. Oh man, you and

768
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Jack were just talking about this. This has been a

769
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: long time coming, you know, you guys have been cooking

770
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: this up and and and you're finally here. You'll be

771
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: doing a weekly show sure called Ring Champs. And what

772
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: can our fans in the Fight space expect from you guys?

773
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 7: Well, first off, thank you for having one half of Rock.

774
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 7: For some reason, he has an old show and old

775
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 7: typing skills, so he couldn't get on, so I have

776
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 7: to take the lead on this. First off, thank you

777
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 7: guys for accepting us with open arms. You know, me

778
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 7: and Stack we build a g reporting a friendship.

779
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 8: Over the years.

780
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 7: He's a huge fight fan and I don't know, seven

781
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 7: eight months ago he said we got something big coming

782
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 7: I want you to be a part of and you know,

783
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 7: I stayed in his DM and texted him too, but

784
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 7: I had to be patient. You know, we've been with

785
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 7: the Zone for seven years now, also call fights on overtime.

786
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 7: We were on Serious XM, so we've been in a

787
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 7: boxing space over a decade and it's great to you know,

788
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 7: work with these big networks and travel the world. But

789
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 7: we've always had a dream to partner up with a

790
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 7: platform that saw us also as partners and have ownership

791
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 7: in our brand as well. And there's no better platform

792
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 7: than all of Smoke now. And I'll just say to you, guys,

793
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 7: I'm not blowing smoke. You and Stack, you guys inspired

794
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 7: me in this space. You revolutionize podcasting like you guys

795
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 7: are the pioneers pretty much in tapping into a sport

796
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 7: but also bringing the culture side of it that didn't

797
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 7: really exist in boxing. So something in that Barack and

798
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 7: our pride ourselves and being that bridge from the casual

799
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 7: fan to the hardcore fan.

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00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: Bro I want, I want to say welcome to the

801
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: family as well. I know we've been talking about it

802
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: a while and you talk. You know, you gave us

803
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: our props as far as you know where we are

804
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: in the podcast base and what we built with the

805
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: production company. But I want to give you a pop too,

806
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: because you're a big reason why I'm a big fan,

807
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: why I'm a big fan of boxing, why I start

808
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: educating myself for boxing A lot A lot of times

809
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: we watch the sport and we hear a lot of

810
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: people talk, but it's not people that we can relate to.

811
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We we we talk the

812
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 3: same lingo.

813
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: You know, we understand that the same words and the

814
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: same phrases to get people to understand the real inside

815
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: of boxing and being a and being a fan. In

816
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: order to understand it, you have to have somebody you

817
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: can correlate with, you can relate with so uh and

818
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: and that and that's what y'all do for me. Bro,

819
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: you and y'all and other people shout out the show

820
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: biz too.

821
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: Uh.

822
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: I'll watch all y'all because y'all been in the game

823
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: longer than me. But I got this. This is the

824
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: this is the one of This is the main question.

825
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: I have for you.

826
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: How do y'all feel about Benefitez and uh morell fight

827
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: coming up?

828
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: Before you answer? You know, always late never, I mean

829
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: better late than never. Welcome to the show.

830
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 8: Is he officially here?

831
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 4: Yeah?

832
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Someone says you had the jack in the back, the

833
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: jack and the box WiFi. They found out and came

834
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: and had they called the tow truck because you was

835
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: in the parking lot of Jack in the box trying.

836
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 6: To step the wi fi.

837
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 9: Well, listen, why do you think I'm in the room now?

838
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 9: I need this deal so I can step.

839
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, let's get it now. But welcome, obviously the

840
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: other half Barrock ring Champs. What you missed? Uh, welcome

841
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: to the family, my brother. We appreciate you, guys. Man,

842
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: we're just singing your guys' praises. But Jack, go ahead, Yeah,

843
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about the upcoming fight?

844
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 8: I'll say this you know, David Morrell.

845
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 7: I've always been a fan, even though he doesn't have

846
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 7: a lot of fights, and you know, the mainstream fans

847
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 7: might not know who he is, but he's a real

848
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 7: threat to David Benavidez. He's one of the guys that

849
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 7: I was saying when people were saying Canell needs to

850
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 7: fight Benavitez.

851
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 8: Benavidez, I said, hold.

852
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 7: Up, there's another guy that's his size in that division.

853
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 7: You know that that I like to see him mix

854
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 7: it up with first. Now, don't get me wrong, Yes,

855
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 7: Cuban fighter salth Paul, super scaled, he can hit hard.

856
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 7: I like Benavitez. I think obviously we all know he's

857
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 7: a phenomenal fighter, you know, stack you spend some time

858
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 7: with him.

859
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 8: Hell of a guy, hell of a talent.

860
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 7: But I think this fight is gonna be a lot

861
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 7: more interesting than most people think in terms of the

862
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 7: shot that Morell has on Benavidez.

863
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

864
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 9: Absolutely, I think the whole Benevide's whole career, he's always

865
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 9: been the bigger guy, you know, and then he steps

866
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 9: up to one seventy five for vos Dick. That fight

867
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 9: didn't go didn't look like all the other fights he had.

868
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 9: When he's knocking people out, he's hurting him, he's punishing them.

869
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 9: So this is gonna be that test. Morell is his size,

870
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 9: he's big. He moved up to one seventy five. They

871
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 9: both coming off fights where they didn't look too spectacular.

872
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 9: But outside of that, these guys are good fights. Morell

873
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 9: just for the guy named hot Rod, he he's a

874
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 9: he's a problem, you know what I mean. He moves

875
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 9: too much, he's hurky, jerky. He's hard to look good

876
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 9: with guys like that. So I think he's better than

877
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 9: what he looked at night. I think Morell is a

878
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 9: serious problem. If Benavidez could beat Morell, he's the goods.

879
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: It's a lot to talk about weight draining right now.

880
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's all in the air by Budd and

881
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: Canelo fighting. We've seen we talked about Earth and I'm like,

882
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: if you are that type, that one of the top fighters,

883
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: and you have the opportunity to throw away drank, await

884
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: a rehydration clause in, then I think you I think

885
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: you should do it at certain times. Because I gave

886
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: him an example. Ryan Garcia came into the Devin Handy

887
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: fight not worrying about the money, not worrying about the belt.

888
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: He just wanted to knock him out and win the fight,

889
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: So that's why he didn't care about the way or not.

890
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: He wanted to come in.

891
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: Bigger on purpose.

892
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: Do y'all think that the rehydration clause should be implemented

893
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: by guys? We have the power to implement it.

894
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 8: That's a great points as a team.

895
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 7: And whether you're the lawyer, the advisor, the manager, your

896
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 7: job is to create the best situation for your fighter, right,

897
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 7: So if the opposite team is willing to accept those clauses,

898
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 7: then power to you and your team to give you

899
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 7: a bit, you know.

900
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 8: An advantage. This sport is brutal, no question about it,

901
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 8: and the fans might might not like it.

902
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 7: But if you're on the other side of that and

903
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 7: you feel like this is gonna put your fighter at

904
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 7: risk where he won't be healthy, he won't be one

905
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 7: hundred percent, then don't accept the clause.

906
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 8: But if you accept it, you got to live with that.

907
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 8: And I agree with you for stack.

908
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say, I understand your point, but I come

909
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 9: from like I remember one time I was having a

910
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 9: fight in the street and I threw a kick.

911
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 4: Now I'm a martial artist, you know what I'm saying.

912
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 9: I threw a kick and I was like thirteen years old,

913
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 9: and everybody was.

914
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 4: Like, oh man, you cheat him, bro. You know what

915
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

916
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: It was like, you cheating, bro, I can't do I

917
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: can't win what you mean?

918
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, I'm like, what, I

919
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 4: kicked his head?

920
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: Fot.

921
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 4: It was like ya, yo, No, I'm from that cloth

922
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 4: where the streets they talk.

923
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 9: The streets be talking, and they be like, nah, you

924
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 9: can't do none of that stuff. So if you want

925
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 9: to submit your legacy and you got a rehydration clause,

926
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 9: it ain't gonna go right over the fans.

927
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: Man.

928
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 4: So I really don't like this.

929
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: I ain't at that I feel that.

930
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 7: I just think the problem in the sport is that

931
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 7: fighters want to be they want to be as big

932
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 7: as possible in a certain weight class, which is why

933
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 7: back in the day they used to weigh in the

934
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 7: same day early in the day.

935
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 8: This way you don't have it. You don't have an.

936
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 7: Opportunity in too much room to be as as dry

937
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 7: as possible in the weigh and then on fighting out

938
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 7: you want to gain twenty five pounds and have a

939
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 7: serious advantage against your opponents.

940
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 8: So I don't know. I don't agree with Barakos.

941
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 9: So at the same time, then you fighting your weight

942
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 9: class and go down. I'm not too mad at Tank

943
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 9: when Tank do it, because Tank.

944
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: Is so small. Yeah, I mean, and he's fighting these

945
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: big guys. But at the end of the day, then

946
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 4: don't fight these big guys then.

947
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: So do we have So does this fight happen with

948
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 3: Canelo and Bud?

949
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 8: It looks like yes.

950
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: I think when Turkey get involved.

951
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 7: That all his excellency wants that fight. Bud wants to fight.

952
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 7: Canelo is just in London with those guys, So it

953
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 7: looks like it's gonna happen. We don't know if it's

954
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 7: gonna happen in May or September, but to my understanding

955
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 7: and my sources, the fight will happen.

956
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 3: I got two more questions. I got two more questions

957
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: footing figure roll too.

958
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: Oh man, See, that's that's a good one. Once you

959
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: see the guy who already won, you kind of.

960
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: Got going with and waight this the heavier fight this time.

961
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that means is they probably both more comfortable,

962
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 9: especially figure Road. I would say, especially figure Road because

963
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 9: he seems like a bigger guy, you know, But I

964
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 9: think skills pay the bills, so I guess I'd go

965
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 9: with Folk.

966
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm with a rock on that. I think. I

967
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 8: think Fulton is a talented fighter.

968
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: Plus he got a chip on his shoulder right now,

969
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: see that, right?

970
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: He mad?

971
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: He ain't I interview? Yeah, he say no more cool boy, y'all.

972
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm back to school though.

973
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, I wear school. I like him. I'm going

974
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 8: with him for sure.

975
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Tank, we gotta talk about Tank coming up?

976
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 7: Okay, Look, Tank is obviously he's a heavy favorite in

977
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 7: this fight for a reason.

978
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. Tank is one of the

979
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 8: best fighters in the world, no question about it.

980
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: Uh.

981
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 7: Skill Wise, he's in the top five, maybe been top

982
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 7: three in the sport.

983
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 8: He's that explosive, right.

984
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 3: Uh.

985
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 8: But he's yet to have that.

986
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 7: Mark Key Marquis victory outside of when he won a

987
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 7: title out eight years old against but Drasa.

988
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 8: I'm not saying Tank can't beat the big names. I'm

989
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 8: saying he.

990
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 7: Hasn't been in there with him yet, right, And no

991
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 7: disrespect to a Lamont wrote you who obviously is a

992
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 7: credible an opponent. Well, yeah he does, he does. I

993
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 7: just don't think he's quick enough to deal with somebody

994
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 7: explosive as Tank, and I think Tank is just too talented,

995
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 7: So I gotta go with Tank. You know, I thought

996
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 7: you were asked me about Tank and chicor or something

997
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 7: to fight down the line.

998
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: Hopefully we get to that.

999
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get to that. How do we get to that? Yeah,

1000
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to we'll get to that.

1001
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: That.

1002
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

1003
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 9: I feel like Roach is a is a good opponent,

1004
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 9: But when you look at track records, he already took

1005
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 9: a loss to somebody like Jamel Herry. And then you

1006
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 9: look at Tank, Tank is like he barely had close fights.

1007
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 4: He had a close.

1008
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 9: Fight with with with one fighter and that was Pitt Bull,

1009
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 9: only because he hurt his hand in the tenth round,

1010
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 9: you know.

1011
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: So it's like it's kind of hard to go against Tank.

1012
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 9: He's so explosive, he's so talented, and at the end

1013
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 9: of the day, Tank is one of the very very

1014
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 9: few in boxing, probably in the history of boxing, that

1015
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 9: you don't really have the great names on your resume,

1016
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 9: but we still see that you're great. That don't happen much.

1017
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 9: Maybe it happened to Aero Spence early. Certain guys that

1018
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 9: happened too early, but hardly ever. And Tank is that

1019
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 9: guy who just seems like he's very well.

1020
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: Before we get you guys out of here, you guys

1021
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: recently sat down with Jake Paul. Let's take a look

1022
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: at that clip.

1023
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 10: There was four conversations happening at a time with different opponents.

1024
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 10: It was you know, Tommy, Mike Tyson, and so can.

1025
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: We hear the other two?

1026
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: Please?

1027
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 8: I don't know, come on, give us something, Come on,

1028
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 8: but did you see what was that?

1029
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 4: You serious?

1030
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 8: Only?

1031
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: And I talked to them both if it was going

1032
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: to be a straight up, true real fight, right, you

1033
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 4: would really fight your brother in a real that was

1034
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: that was a moment.

1035
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 10: Well this is a a little bit, but it's because

1036
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 10: that was because I was screaming.

1037
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: No.

1038
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 10: But I'm okay with fighting my brother because I wouldn't

1039
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 10: have to be the one that uh.

1040
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 4: Dealt with losing.

1041
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 10: So if no, seriously so like emotionally, if that would

1042
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 10: scar him, then he shouldn't do it. But if he's

1043
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 10: gonna sign up, I don't have to be the one

1044
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 10: to lose. And Bro it's like it's me and Mike

1045
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 10: hug after me and Anderson Silva like bro, But you

1046
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 10: would say.

1047
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 8: It's different sport if you used to beat you up

1048
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 8: when you was a kid.

1049
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 10: Probably, which also plays in there.

1050
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: So you guys got a chance to sit down and

1051
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: and talk to Jake, and so the fight with his

1052
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: brother was it was a real possibility.

1053
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 7: Huh yeah, yeah, which was surprising to me because coming

1054
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 7: from being an amateur fighting myself till I was seventy

1055
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 7: five fights, my brother and I were one year apart,

1056
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 7: and I would never ever fight my brother. You know,

1057
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 7: he's smaller than me.

1058
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 8: I used to I used to spar with him, Don't

1059
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 8: get me wrong. I sparred with him, but never would

1060
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 8: fight him. So, uh, that was odd. But they have

1061
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 8: a different type of relatelationship, you know what I mean.

1062
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 7: I don't know if that fight would have done the

1063
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 7: same amount of numbers like that Mike Tyson did. But

1064
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 7: you know, I've always been in support of Jake because

1065
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 7: he's a guy that didn't really have to go into

1066
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 7: this space as sport, as a brutal sport. He's taking

1067
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 7: risks just like everybody else's steps in that ring and

1068
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 7: training just as hard as a professional fighters, so I

1069
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 7: no longer well I've never called him a YouTube I

1070
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 7: call him a professional fighter that just so happened to

1071
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 7: start late in his career, and it's taking a sport serious.

1072
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 7: So I'm not one of those guys that those any

1073
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 7: shade as well. I like what he's doing. I respect

1074
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 7: what he's doing. I definitely wouldn't support him fighting his brother.

1075
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 9: I look at it like I got five brothers. I

1076
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 9: would never lay a hand on any one of my brothers.

1077
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 9: Well for twenty ms, they might jump me, they might

1078
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 9: jump me. I gotta fight on five, you know what

1079
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 9: I mean? Like, so, I feel what you're saying. I

1080
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 9: understand you and Shmi. You know, you guys grew up

1081
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 9: in Gleasies gym together. Y'all not fighting. Y'all love each other.

1082
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 9: But if it was twenty ms behind that ticket, I

1083
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 9: think y'all would fight, y'all at each other, be like, yo,

1084
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 9: let's do this for our family, you know what I mean?

1085
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 9: And I think that was at one time that was

1086
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 9: Jake Paul's end Gold like we so big, Logan's big,

1087
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 9: I'm big.

1088
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but you told my guys, But you told

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Speaker 7: my guys that are getting money around brother.

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Speaker 8: You told my guys that are getting me and my

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Speaker 8: brother are broke. So maybe that said.

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Speaker 7: Somebody to consider that these dudes already been getting money.

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Speaker 4: But when you get money, you just want money. You know,

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Speaker 4: I buy a million dollar house now.

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Speaker 8: No doubt. Would you guys fight any of your brothers,

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I'm not sure if you guys have siblings.

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Speaker 2: But I lost both of my brothers. Man, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't fight neither one of them.

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Speaker 1: We never had a fight.

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Speaker 2: We had arguments, a little wrestling around the house growing up,

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Speaker 2: but throwing punches, nah.

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Speaker 3: Wen. We held our animosity for other people.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, I held smoke for

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Speaker 1: others smoking a fan. But you guys can catch that

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Speaker 1: full episode. Jake Paul and Nikkeisa dropped Wednesday on All

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Speaker 1: the Smoke Fight YouTube. Man, welcome to the family again.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on you guys success. We're excited to have you

1108
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Speaker 1: guys experience and knowledge under the umbrella and we can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see you guys.

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Speaker 7: Man, I appreciate it. I just want to thank thank

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00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 7: you guys too for accepting us. Thanks to Brian Daily

1112
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Speaker 7: and even Dre being a part of the team and

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Speaker 7: all of the staff at atf Man, I'm excited to

1114
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Speaker 7: be a part of the family and looking forward to

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Speaker 7: us all working together.

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Speaker 1: Brock. Now that you're official, Man, I'm gonna make sure

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Speaker 1: we get your WiFi package out there.

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Speaker 4: Oh Man, that's that's all I need.

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Speaker 1: It's over once I get all right, man, And we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. Man, we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 3: I see you have to fight, bro absolutely, So that's

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Speaker 3: a wrap.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you, guys. Make sure you check out Unplugged

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Speaker 1: on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and the DraftKings Network. Recently,

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Speaker 1: our brother andre Ward sat down with David Benavidez. Take

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Speaker 1: a look at the clip.

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Speaker 11: How do you envision this fight playing out February first, This.

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Speaker 12: Is gonna be the best fight of my career so far,

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Speaker 12: the best performance, because you know, you know, when you

1130
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Speaker 12: get to them, you get them camps where sometimes stuff

1131
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Speaker 12: ain't good, But then you get the camps where physically, emotionally,

1132
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Speaker 12: mentally you're getting your.

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Speaker 6: Rounds in, you're getting the runs in.

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Speaker 12: You've been training for like three and a half months

1135
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Speaker 12: and everything is just flowing good. And even when you

1136
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Speaker 12: when you vision stuff in your head, it's looking amazing.

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Speaker 6: So for me this fight, I'm gonna go in there.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna put on a great performance and I'm definitely

1139
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Speaker 12: gonna I'm going in there to try to knock David Morale,

1140
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Speaker 12: which if if I get it or not, I don't know,

1141
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Speaker 12: but I'm definitely gonna beat David Morrol.

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Speaker 6: But I'm gonna be in there trying to hurt him

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Speaker 6: every single round.

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Speaker 11: You think he's gonna bang with you, or you think

1145
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 11: he's gonna try to move and be.

1146
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Speaker 6: He's gonna be.

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Speaker 12: He's definitely gonna try to I think he's gonna move around.

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Speaker 12: First he's in a he's in a box, and then

1149
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Speaker 12: I might, you know, entice him to a firefight, you know.

1150
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Speaker 12: But if it's for me to hunt him down, me

1151
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Speaker 12: to cut the distance, me to counter while he's trying

1152
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Speaker 12: to counter me, I'm one hundred percent ready for everything.

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Speaker 11: You take care of your business February first. You got

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Speaker 11: better be a B ball rematch. Are your sights are

1155
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 11: set on the winner?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 11: That's why you have to like in the lighthavelay division, Right, Yeah,

1158
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Speaker 11: who would you rather fight?

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Speaker 12: I sparred before I spared him a lot of times,

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Speaker 12: so I know him. I know him personally, I know

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Speaker 12: him more as a style. But I feel like both

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Speaker 12: those men I had to be at one hundred and

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Speaker 12: ten percent because both of them, you know, they're they're

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Speaker 12: the top, there's elite, they're the Oloper echelon fighters.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know I'd beat both of.

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Speaker 8: Them, but but you definitely want I.

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Speaker 6: Want either one of them. Yeah,