1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: But you use that donkey thing and donkeys around here, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: around around. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: It's time for donkeys for day. They made the today 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: by the things that I said. Some donkey to Day's 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: just so themselves. This was you what accountability are he's taking? 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: He caught me off, sat I'm not making these people 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: do these. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: Things today on the breakfast club ever, you said, I 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: want to start off with this donkey right here. Donkey 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: today for Wednesday, March eleventh goes to a forty six 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: year old Houston. 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: Man named James Earl Johnson. Yes, what race today? 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: It will not be needed today. Okay, that is one 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: of the blackest names I've ever heard in my life. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: All Right, this man is named after somebody's great great grandfather. 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: He sounds like he was a custodian in a high 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: school when they ended segregation in America in sixty four. Okay, 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: James or Earl Anna Johnson. I know he done got 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: denied for a loan quite a few times. Okay, probably 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: discriminated against during a hiring process or two. I know 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: he didn't get a callback. You know, studies show people 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: with black sounding names get fifty percent fewer callbacks than 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: identical resumes with white sounding names. So I know James 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: Earl Johnson wasn't getting no callbacks. But anyway, James Arl Johnson, 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: how is he not James L. Johnson the third? Okay 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: that name is too old to be the first. Okay, 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: But anyway, James Arl Johnson has been arrested in charge 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: with abusing his wife. Okay, his wife is disabled and 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: investigators are saying he held his disabled wife captive inside 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 3: their home for years. What do you mean, uncle Shawla, 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: he held his disabled wife captive for years? Well, let's 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: go to ABC thirteen for the report. 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: Police from the outside looking in what some might consider 35 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: a dream home, but police say for one woman, the 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: house at Crownridge Court was in fact a house of hers. 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: Investigators say the forty six year old woman who's disabled, 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: was allegedly held captive in a bedroom for five years 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: by her own husband, James Johnson James Earl Johns and 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: arrested Friday morning, but a sense bonded out of jail 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: with an order to stay away from the victim and 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: the house with the couple's children also reside. 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: It's here. 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 4: Court documents say the victim was held under lock and 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: key with no phone access. Finally, Friday, police say her 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: husband left a phone on the night stand, which he 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: used to call nine one wide, but police say Johnson 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: cut the call short, slapping his wife and carrying her 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 4: back to bed, then hanging up on the nine to 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: one one dispatcher. You've got a woman who's being held captive, 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: and that is a pure form of coercive control, which 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 4: is a form of abuse. 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: James Earl, mister Johnson, why why you know? 54 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: You know, years ago Larry King, the Great Larry King 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: recipes to Larry King, he said to me, you know, Charlemagne, 56 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: the greatest question you can ask in an interview is why. 57 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: I think that's the greatest question to ask in life. 58 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 3: You know, I've been going to therapy for a solid 59 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: decade now, and that is what I'm always trying to 60 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: get to the root of the why of things. 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 2: Why did I react this way? Why did this trigger me? 62 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: Why did I behave like this in this moment? 63 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: So it makes me ask that question of other people often, 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: And for James Earl Johnson, that's the question. 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Why Why couldn't James Earl Johnson just get a divorce? 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: Why couldn't you just break up? With his wife? 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: What made him treat his wife the way Helen treated Charles? 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: And Diary of a Mad Black Woman? 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: Okay? Was this Diary of a Mad Black Name? Okay? 70 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: Did y'all try mediation? Did y'all try legal separation? Was 71 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: there any exit strategy discussed at all? Not even discussed 72 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: with each other? Did you have a meeting with yourself, 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: James Earl Johnson? Okay, I'm just trying to figure out 74 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: why you thought captivity and torture was the best course 75 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: of action here. 76 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: I can't believe I have to say this on Breathless Club. 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: This morning, But leaving a spouse rather than mistreating them 78 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: is always the better option. 79 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: Okay. It's way more ethical than leaving her, leaving her. 80 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: In a room like he did, with a single aid 81 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: to eat and giving her dinner a one time a day. 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: This woman had to call nine to one one when 83 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: her husband, James Earl Johnson, accidentally left a phone on 84 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: the night's thend. 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: This would be Tyler Perry's version of Misery. Okay. I 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: was born in nineteen hundred and seventy eight. 87 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 3: I remember the movie Misery from the nineties when Annie 88 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 3: held Paul captive. 89 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: This is that Okay? 90 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: At least in the movie Misery, though we knew the 91 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: why because Annie was an obsessive fan. There was no 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: reason for James Earl Johnson to be doing what he 93 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: was doing to his wife other than pure evil. 94 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: Okay, just leave o bruh divorsa all right. Any expert you. 95 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: Ask, any counselor you ask, will tell you that no 96 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: one deserves to be treated badly, and staying in a 97 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: miserable or harmful situation often causes more long term damage 98 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: than leaving. 99 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: Is this story not proof of that? 100 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: Is this story not proof that those experts and counselors 101 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: are correct? Please let remy ma give James Earl Johnson 102 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 3: the biggest. 103 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: He heh heh, You stupid mother? Are you dumb? 104 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: And this is why you can't have the wrong man 105 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: providing for you. Okay, we've been having that discussion for 106 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: like the past week. 107 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: Right then, somebody called it this morning. 108 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody called up this morning. 109 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: Well thank you for that. 110 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 5: Don't get a name, but somebody called this morning and 111 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: this is what he said earlier today during gave it 112 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 5: off your. 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Chest, man, I'm getting on my chest. It was a 114 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 1: commonsation y'all had last week with it was Simmi Nevado 115 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: and Kicky Palmer about how younger women were dating older men, 116 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: and my wife and I were talking about it and 117 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: something that Laura La Rosa said and Charlamagne said that 118 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 1: really sat with her. Lauryla Rosa said, when she was younger, 119 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: her parents or her mother would tell her to get 120 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: somebody who provides for her. And then Charlomagne had said, well, 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: she was probably talking to your older version of yourself. 122 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: And man, that really sat with us, because me and 123 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: my wife are just sitting like, man, this is scary 124 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: raising a daughter because she was told the same thing, 125 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: and it's just the man. And then just the mentality 126 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: that that men have. But they tell younger women like 127 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: you're mature for your age. What does that even mean? 128 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 5: Let's open up the phone lines. Let's have a discussion. 129 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 5: Eight hundred five eight five five one. Are you still 130 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: giving your daughters the advice to find a man to 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: take care of you? 132 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 133 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 3: Let that story I just told you about James Earl 134 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: Johnson serve as an example. Okay, you teach your daughters, well, 135 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 3: you should teach your daughters to provide for themselves. 136 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 5: And they can, and then then they should find a 137 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 5: man that can match the hustle. Let's let's talk about 138 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 5: it when we come back again. Eight hundred five eight 139 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 5: five one, five to one. 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