1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. One of 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: my favorite lines Buck from the Office, Michael Scott says, well, 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: how the turn tables have turned? And I am quoting 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: that roughly, but he's trying to say the tables have turned, 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: and boy, oh boy, has that happened in a big 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: way in the state of New York. I'm going to 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: dive in here because it is positively delectable. We've also 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: got Maine being sued by the Department of Justice Attorney 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: General Pam Bondy our friend Riley Gaines in a press 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: conference this morning. I can't believe this is real, but 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: they're having to sue because Maine is refusing to implement 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Trump administration rules which would not allow men to which 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: would not permit men to win women's championships. Basically, men 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: can't compete in women's sports. One bit of news there. 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll dive into this a bit later. The Supreme 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Court of England has ruled that trans women that as 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: men pretending to be women, are not actual women. 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: And JK. 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Rowling, who has been incredible on this issue. I never 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: would have thought that the Harry Potter author would end 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: up being an complete warrior on this issue. Many people 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: in England are exulting over the fact that their Supreme 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: Court has finally weighed in. We will talk about that 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: and more, but I wanted to start with this for you, 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Buck because this news hit last night, I believe, and 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I actually think it's incredible, and the news is and 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: we're going to play you a cut from Harris Faulkner's 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: show to kind of explain this in detail. But essentially, 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: Letitia James has been caught on multiple forms where she 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: applied for mortgages committing fraud in order to get a 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: better mortgage rate. Now the irony here, of course, is 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: she accused Trump of lying and inflating his assets to 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: get a lower rate on his commercial business loans, his 34 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: real estate transactions. So that is more complicated because there was, 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: and this was Trump's major defense, a huge investment bank 36 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: investigating in a substantial way Trump's assets. As happens for 37 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: anyone out there that has ever taken out a loan 38 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: of the magnitude that Trump is taking. Whereas Letitia James 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: and her lies on the forms are very concrete were 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: committed by her. There isn't some big investment bank overarching 41 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: relationship here as would happen in a major business transaction 42 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: as applied for Trump, So basically what she is accused 43 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: of doing buck, among other things. There are at least 44 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: three different mortgage fraud lies that she appears to have committed. 45 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: The most prominent and the easiest to apply is she 46 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: is the Attorney General of New York. She lives in 47 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: the state of New York and is required to live there. 48 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: On a mortgage claim or a mortgage request application that 49 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: she made in the state of Virginia in the Norfolk, 50 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: Virginia area, she checked on that form that she was 51 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: in fact a resident of Virginia, that her primary residence 52 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: was this Norfolk, Virginia home. That is an open and 53 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: shut case. And for those of you who have ever 54 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: applied for a mortgage, your primary residence rate is substantially 55 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: lower because the risk profile of it is quite different. 56 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: You are living there in theory yourself. This is an 57 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: open and shut case. She's caught in that claim, and 58 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: I'll talk about a couple of the other ones, but 59 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: this one is easy. I think everybody would understand it. 60 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: She said she was living in Virginia to get a 61 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: better mortgage rate. She cannot live in Virginia as a 62 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: as a requirement for being the Attorney General of New York. 63 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: As one might imagine, she is required to live in 64 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: New York State. This is an open and shut case. 65 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: She lied on a mortgage form. I'll get to the 66 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: two others, but this kind of brings home for a 67 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: lot of people out there. They accuse you of what 68 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: they have actually done. I think she's in serious trouble 69 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: here and this is going to lead to prosecution. Well 70 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: as Clay and I both know. I thought you were. 71 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: It's funny. I would have thought you might have jumped 72 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: right into this. This is a big subplot from the 73 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: show of The Wire, which I will say is one of, 74 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best TV shows of all time. Yes, 75 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, everyone I know in law 76 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: enforcement says, for the time that's twenty years old, but 77 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: for the period, they have the right lingo. They you know, 78 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: they have the right understanding of the bureaucracy. It feels 79 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: almost like a scripted documentary. I think you could say anyway, 80 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: The Wire's a fantastic show. I think it holds up. 81 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: But there is in the Wire a politician. He is 82 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: a charismatic black man by the name of Clay Davis, 83 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: and he gets caught up with the drug gangs down there. 84 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: There's a whole I can't get you know, that's five 85 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: seasons of a show. But what do they finally get 86 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: them on? Kind of the capone tax evasion thing. They 87 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: find out that it's very similar to this. They've got 88 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: him on mortgage fraud. 89 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: Now in the show. 90 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: By the way, I'll just say i'm quoting the show, 91 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: they call this the headshot because mortgage fraud is easy 92 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: to prove, very hard to defend, and the penalties are 93 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: actually quite severe. The average mortgage fraud offender who has 94 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: convicted Clay go goes to prison. It is a car 95 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: siral sentence, usually for a couple of years. Now you 96 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: can get up to thirty years. That would obviously if 97 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: you did this on a systematic, I think grander scale. 98 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: But and there's state law, there's federal law, a lot 99 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: of things coming to play here. But Clay, here's another 100 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: thing that I think we should take it because you 101 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: you identified the most amazing part of this right away, 102 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: which is that she went after Trump for a civil 103 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: asset inflation crime essentially or civil asset inflation fraud, and 104 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: she was completely wrong. If somebody who anyone who says 105 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: mar A Lago was worth twenty million dollars eighteen million 106 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: is I mean it might, it might be a billion 107 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: dollar profits. 108 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even kidding. 109 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Trump would entertain and offer less than 110 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: a billion dollars at this point, because when you add 111 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: the historic value plus the surge in real estate prices 112 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: in Palm Beach, you know there are houses selling rushes. 113 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: Former house sold for over one hundred million dollars in 114 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty Clay, I think it is one 115 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five. It is much smaller the scope 116 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: of his property than mar A Lago. So she was 117 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: completely wrong on the facts. She ran for Attorney General 118 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: promising to prosecute a private citizen, Donald Trump, which is 119 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: disgraceful and as we see in the with the case 120 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: of Clay Davis to talk about from the show, now, 121 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: she looks like she's got a situation on her hands. 122 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Clay when they went after so this is this story's amazing. 123 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: I saw your tweet at the last night. I mean 124 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: I saw this and I just my jaw dropped because 125 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine. Let me just say this book, I 126 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: can't imagine prosecuting a case against Trump if you knew 127 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: that you had this in your background. I mean, it 128 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: is crazy. This this fits into what we always say, 129 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: what you always say. I've been saying it too for years. 130 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: They accuse you of. 131 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: The things that they themselves do, which I will tell 132 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: you I am just about through with a fabulous biography 133 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: is a recommendation from my dad maw the untold story. 134 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: And you know what. 135 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: One of the fab things that the communists do is 136 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: when they're trying to rise to power acute whatever mistakes 137 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: they make, it's someone else. They accuse somebody else of 138 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: doing the thing, whatever treachery they're involved in, they accuse 139 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: somebody else of doing that tread. I mean, it's it's 140 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: the classic evil doer move is, oh, I didn't poison 141 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: my rival, you poisoned my This is what they do 142 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: all the time. And so they accused people of doing 143 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: what they themselves do. But Clay, here's the I think 144 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: the bigger issue for this is, like I said, easy 145 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: to prove this is not going to be a he said, 146 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: why I started with the first one. She lives in 147 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: New York and she say in her primary residence is 148 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: in Virginia. That's impossible. Her only defense for this, if 149 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: this goes, is going to be it was a claric. Now, 150 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: by the way, you and I both had done real 151 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: estate investing, and you know we've bought properties, and everybody 152 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: knows if it is an investment property, you have to 153 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: disclose that to the bank. Right, Clay can't pretend that 154 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: he lives in a house in Memphis when he actually 155 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: lives in Nashville. Me I can't say I live in 156 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: Tampa when I actually live in Miami. Right, this is 157 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: very straightforward. Everybody knows this. She is the state attorney general. 158 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: Of course she would know. But now, Clay, here's where 159 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: we really get into it. I want to know how 160 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: many people in New York State under her tenure have 161 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: served prison sentences for similar time, because I promise you 162 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: there have been people who have gone away for mortgage fraud. 163 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I was working a terrorism case many years ago where 164 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: the investigators realized we couldn't get the guy on terrorism, 165 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: but somebody involved was involved in a mortgage fraud, and 166 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: there was this whole dispute as to whether we should 167 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: use counter terrorism resources. 168 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: Very high end. 169 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Nail the guy on the mortgage fraud even though we 170 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: couldn't get him on the terrorism charge. You know, it 171 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: gets into this capone thing. Anyway, won't get too deep 172 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: into that, but play if she sent anyone away or 173 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: anyone was sent away under her tenure or before her 174 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: tenure for mortgage fraud in the state of New York, 175 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: and she is guilty of this crime, she has to 176 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: go to sell. I agree, And there are several other things. 177 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: We're going to play this audio for you in a moment, 178 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: because I think this is a huge story. Remember she 179 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: said repeatedly, no one is above the law. She also 180 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: refused to allow Trump to argue. And by the way, 181 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: this is one billion percent true. 182 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: Trump had a huge team. 183 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Of people working on his investment papers with the major 184 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: investment bank. Trump is not sitting there with a pencil 185 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: going through like writing all the information in. He has 186 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: an entire organization of people. This is important, Buck, because 187 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: she's gonna say, I bet I didn't do this. Somebody 188 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: else filled this out for me. They just checked the 189 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: wrong box. That's specifically the defense she said was unacceptable 190 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: for Trump. In an they have her on the Act. 191 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: It's just a question of the intent. They're going to 192 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: have to argue intent on this, and with this kind 193 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: of stuff that can be very especially when you're the 194 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: state attorney general. You don't know what a mortgage paperwork 195 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: looks like. Okay, here's the other part of this. And 196 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: she doesn't run a major business organization. I wouldn't imagine 197 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: she's applying for that many mortgages. She's like, in this respect, 198 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: a normal person. Here's the other thing, buck, in order 199 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: to get another property in Brooklyn. She said that she 200 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: and her dad were married, because married couples often get 201 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: lower rates of mortgages than singles do same last name. 202 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: I presume this is also going to get hard to 203 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: explain this is a different property in Brooklyn. 204 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: Can I just point this out, Clay. 205 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: They're going to try so hard to say that this 206 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: is vindictive, that this is political payback, that this is 207 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: all of these things with these crimes. It's like possession crime. 208 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: If they find for the gun thing when he has 209 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: on drugs exactly, or this is not a oh but 210 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: are you within the scope of your office and the no, no, no, no, 211 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: there's no argument here. You either did the thing that 212 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: is a violation of a law, or you didn't and 213 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: they would not be talking about this. 214 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: Clay. 215 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: If this is paperwork, they either have her or they don't. 216 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: Dead rights, she's in a world of trouble. Yeah, well, 217 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about this coming up here in a second. 218 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: You know, there's a really good reason that eight hundred 219 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: and sixty thousand gun owners in our nation are members 220 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: of the USCCA. Members get self defense liability insurance the 221 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: moment they join. USCCA wants to prepare and protect responsible 222 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: Americans like you and me through training, education, and self 223 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: defense liability insurance. 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We're talking 258 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: about this pretty incredible story of the attorney general of 259 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: the state of New York who went after Trump in 260 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: a way that was I truly you know, Trump won 261 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: the election. I could see here now, Clay, and I 262 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: would sity you. Now we could reflect and say, you know, 263 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: I can see how she made the case or I 264 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: can understand, and in fact, my one hundred percent certainty 265 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: has only stayed at one hundred percent certainty that the 266 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: whole thing was a political hit, and it was a disgrace, 267 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: a disgrace to my home. 268 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: State, which I will always love. I love New York. 269 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: I know I sound like I'm selling the T shirts 270 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: by Central Park, but I love New York I always will. 271 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: It's a fantastic place. But bad leadership, bad politics running 272 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: the show, and Clay, what she did to Trump was 273 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: a disgrace. It was a disgrace to the rule of law, 274 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: and that she has no real interest in falling law 275 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: herself is only too perfect given what we already know 276 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: about this individual. Here's Fox News senior reporter Eric Sean. 277 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: He lays out in some good detail. I want to 278 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: hear the actual specific allegations. It's cut twenty five Play it. 279 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: James, whose public salary is two hundred and twenty thousand 280 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,119 Speaker 4: dollars a year, has obtained home loans for several properties 281 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: with claims that are apparently false. In twenty twenty three 282 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 4: paper show, she claimed to house in Norfolk, Virginia as 283 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: her primary residence, which qualifies for a lower mortgage rate. 284 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: But you know she is serving in public office in 285 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: all but in New York, and that's five hundred miles 286 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: away from Norfolk. She bought another building with her father 287 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: as a co sign, calling herself his wife, and there 288 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: referral also shows that she bought this brownstone in Brooklyn, 289 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: New York, but misrepresented the number of units that are 290 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: in it. Love that lowers the mortgage rate there too. 291 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: Clay, if the facts are correct here, she is a 292 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: serial felony financial crime offender, as the top law enforcement 293 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: officer of New York State completely, and we should mention 294 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: that is a Fox News report. During that Fox News report, 295 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: they have still photos of the application showing the boxes 296 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: that she checked, which are laws which I presume has 297 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: been in the documents that have been turned over to 298 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: a G. Pambondi at the Department of Justice. Now, this 299 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: is also kind of significant. 300 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: Buck. 301 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned New York, and we know that we have 302 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: a kangaroo court oftentimes unfortunately in the state of New 303 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: York and in Brooklyn, in the New York City area. 304 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: That be even more the case when it comes to 305 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: democrats not being held accountable. Virginia, they could bring these 306 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: charges in the state of Virginia for the Norfolk residence. 307 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: She could face a multi state charge. Right, she could 308 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: be charged for the crime in New York where it occurred. 309 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: This is fed Virginia where it occurred. Yes, more mortgage. 310 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: So that's the thing, mortgage fraud. Like a lot of crimes. 311 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: You know, people don't even know this. Drug possession is 312 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: a federal and state crime in most in most states. 313 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: Now some states actually don't have that but for certain drugs. 314 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: But so they can go either way. But Clay, I 315 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: mean federal, She's she's in a whole lot of trouble, right, yeah, 316 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: And I think again, you get a judge in Virginia 317 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: and a court in Virginia that might be far more 318 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: inclined to convict than in New York, so you could 319 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: bring charges in both jurisdictions. We gotta we gotta find guys. 320 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: Find me for either New York or Virginia. Just any 321 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: press release about somebody going away from mortgage fraud, I 322 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: want to see what they got. 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That SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. 340 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton shows. So you know, 341 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: we have reached out to the Governor of New York, 342 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: Kathy Hokeel. I would if I were the governor of 343 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: New York find it somewhat alarming that my attorney general, 344 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: in charge of chief law enforcement in the country, I 345 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: mean in a state, was potentially engaging in fraud. I've 346 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: not seen a statement from Kathy Hockle yet. And again, 347 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: this is not very complicated. If the Fox documents that 348 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: they showed on the broadcast, we played the audio for you. 349 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: If those are accurate, this is an open and shut case. 350 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: Like you click a box on a mortgage application, Buck, 351 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: your analogy about Hunter Biden and the gun charge is 352 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: easy too. I mean, when you say on a mortgage application, 353 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: under penalty of law, I submit the following. She is 354 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: an attorney, It's not like she's an unsophisticated person. And 355 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: the brazen this year Buck to do this while you 356 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: were trying to basically bankrupt President Trump. Also, it reminds 357 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: me of Elliot Spitzer, one of the biggest scumbags in 358 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: the LEA legal and political world of all time where 359 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: that guy was prosecuting people for paying hookers while he 360 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: was paying hookers and was like, oh, but you know 361 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: when I do it. No, no, buddy, no, no. This 362 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: is a huge This is a huge problem. If we 363 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: have a regime where the people enforcing the laws do 364 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: not live under the laws. We do not have a 365 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: regime of laws. Okay, that is absolutely ironclad, and Clay, 366 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: let's just play. Let's play a game. You're gonna probably 367 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: throw some in the mix that I'm gonna forget, but 368 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: let's play a game. Because we say this like they 369 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: accuse us of doing what they actually do. Early in 370 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: the Trump administrator, this is this is the first one 371 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: I can think of a few Early in the Trump administration, 372 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: we were hearing that Jared Kushner and Ivanka were benefiting 373 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: from their dad, you know, financially corruption stuff. Jared's already 374 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: a billionaire a few times over. Ivanka has been famous 375 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: since I've known her since we were twelve years old. Like, 376 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: this is just not but just that's what they said. 377 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: And then we find out that Hunter is straight up 378 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: getting tens of millions of dollars while he's a crackhead 379 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: paid to him that he's hiding in LLCs and not 380 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: paying taxes on because of daddy. Okay, that's one. We 381 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: hear that Donald Trump needs to have a raid at 382 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: mar a Lago of classified documents because it's so important 383 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: in clay classified documents, national security, rah rah rah. And 384 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: then we find that hunt, I mean, Joe Biden is 385 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: plastering his garage with top secret documents, leaving him next 386 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: to the corvette to show fans and buddies on audio 387 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: talking to his biographer about the fact that he has 388 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: classified documents, and then the biographer tried to delete all 389 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 1: of the evidence of that recording of Biden admitting that 390 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: he knew that he had those documents in his possession 391 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: and was sharing them with a guy who was writing 392 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: a book about him, right, So that kind of put 393 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: a damper on the whole Trump classified documents thing. 394 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: And now we have we have Latisia James. 395 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Let me also add the corruption of Fannie Willis and 396 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: her paramore bringing charges against Trump and you can him 397 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: you seven one hundred thousand dollars her lover boy to 398 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: be taxpayer dollars, I mean, but can they get a 399 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: prosecutor to go after Trump that isn't actually a criminal. 400 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: The answer seems to be no. 401 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: The answer seems to be that the people that want 402 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: to use the law to Trump to take Trump down 403 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: themselves have big problems with law. 404 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: And can I just be clear? Is there any argument 405 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: about this? 406 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 4: Like? 407 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: Does does anyone want to Maybe I should go on 408 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: CNN and get on the Scott Jennings panel for a 409 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: night and just be like, who wants to fight on 410 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: this issue? Because you guys are wrong. I mean, Scott 411 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: would be with me, but the other side, you guys 412 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: are wrong. I mean, this is such an opening cutch, 413 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: open and shut case because the document is there. And 414 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: I bet most of you out there listening at some 415 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: point in time have had to apply for a mortgage, 416 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: and if you are fortunate enough to own more than 417 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: one home, I guarantee that this is something that you 418 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: understand very well. Or if you've ever purchased to help 419 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: to purchase a second home for a child or a grandchild. 420 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: The rates on secondary homes are often substantially higher because 421 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: the primary residence thing is such a huge part of 422 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: many people's mortgage application. This is where I live. 423 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: She didn't even live in a border. 424 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: State Buck she lived Clay in the state of New 425 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: York and said she was claiming to be living in Virginia. 426 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: She knew what she was doing. 427 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: And even beyond that, as somebody who is as a 428 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: think about this, everyone your and we. 429 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: Have prosecutors, can we actually can we open lines? 430 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: I want some prosecutor takes on this, like how outraged 431 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: you are, or any anyone who's worked on the you know, 432 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: the criminal justice side of things, Judges, prosecutors, anybody, if 433 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: you want to call it and tell us how you 434 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: feel about this. Because Clay, that's why I brought up 435 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: the Spitzer component of this. This is somebody who is 436 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: sitting there looking across the table at people and saying, 437 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: because of what you did. And in the case of 438 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: mortgage fraud, I'm just going to say this, I actually 439 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: think the mortgage fraud laws are too severe and a 440 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: little bit a little bit nutso because you know the bank, 441 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you're paying for the mortgage. Okay, the rate's 442 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: a little different, you know, it gets a little more 443 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: into like an assessment gray area on some of this stuff. 444 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna you know, it can be very severe 445 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: punishment for a pretty nonsense, like the bank's not going 446 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: to go under because you got a you know, two 447 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: percent point two percentage point or point five percentage point loan, 448 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: you know difference. 449 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: But put that aside. The law is the law. Play. 450 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: She sits across the table from defendants every day who 451 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: commit financial crimes, who commit mortgage fraud, and says, you 452 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: are now a felon, you know, because it's all deals, right, 453 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: we used to ruin their lives. She has the power 454 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: to ruin people's lives over regularly. Look procedural related issues, right, 455 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: we're talking about like you pulled a gun out and 456 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: shot someone or not. In fact, in fact, I think 457 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: she probably sat down across from a lot of those 458 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: people and was like, we want to give you a 459 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: second chance, you know, we want. 460 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: To help you out. 461 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: You know, so you pistol with that guy running the 462 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: seven to eleven and pointed a gun at his head, 463 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: you probably had a tough childhood. I guarantee you Chis James. 464 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: When she got an opportunity, as we saw with Donald Trump, 465 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: to make an example out of somebody who is of 466 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: the you know, either the elites or somebody who's a 467 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: Republican and not politically connected or a financial crime of 468 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: any kind. She made an example of them. She sat 469 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: there and looked at people and said, you were going 470 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: to go into a cell for a nonviolent crime. You're 471 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: going to only be able to see your family during 472 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: visiting days, and your reputation is ruined. And she was 473 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: doing that while she was doing the same thing over 474 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: and over again. Buck they put the CFO in crime 475 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: because he didn't claim a car allowance on thank you return. 476 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: Perfect example. 477 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: Seven or some odd year old accountant had to go 478 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: to prison because he didn't take a correct deduction because 479 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: they gave him a car allowance that he didn't own 480 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: on his tax return. I mean, I know this is 481 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: a different kind of thing. But they sent our man 482 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: Steve Bannon. They sent Navarro to prison for not violating 483 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: the executive privilege because we had a bunch of Democrat 484 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: lunatics who wanted them to turn on the Trump administration. 485 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: By the way, to all do. 486 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Credit to Bannon and Navarro for standing tall on that. 487 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: The accountant went to prison. All right, well that's an 488 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: even better example. Account went to prison. Hey, he went 489 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: to the seniors wing in Rikers on Rykers Island. 490 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: Again. 491 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: I looked for the NYPD a horrible place, a horrifying, 492 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: traumatizing for. 493 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: Everybody who goes there. 494 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about people that aren't used to 495 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: be like even people that spend some time in facilities. 496 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: You'd much rather go to prison in like, you know, 497 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: Utah than you would in Riker's ion. Let me tell you, Okay, 498 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: So you know, Clay, this is just indicative of how 499 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: we were lectured for years by these democrats. Not even 500 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: just lectured, they were shrieking. They were enraged about how 501 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: Trump was such a threat to the rule of law. 502 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: And then they've just completely turned this whole thing on 503 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: its head, weaponized the rule of law. And the people 504 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: shouting the loudest were some of the dirtiest. And we're 505 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: supposed to what, forget about this, We're supposed to let 506 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: this slide. I'm sorry. I think the standard for prosecutors 507 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: who break the law should be, you know, even higher. 508 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: I'll give an example this, Clay. You know, police officers 509 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: when someone is in custody. You know, if you're a 510 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: police officer and you you know, you just aside you've 511 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: had enough in some guy's handcuffed and you break his 512 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: jaw you are in a world of trouble for that right, 513 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: because there's an elevated responsibility once something and I'm talking 514 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the arrest. I'm talking about once 515 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: someone is in custody, once he has been taken into custody, 516 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: abuse is treated extremely seriously because law enforcement has an 517 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: elevated responsibility due to their elevated power. Same thing should 518 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: be true for prosecutors with criminal law. You're going to 519 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: use the law as a weapon against people, and then 520 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: you're going to break the law yourself. You should get 521 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: maximum top of the guidelines every time. We cannot have 522 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: prosecutors who think they are above the law. She definitely 523 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: directly prosecuted Weiselberg for I mean, this is the New 524 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: York got a a attorney general, She's got a good guys. 525 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: Nothing less than prison if she if she, if she's 526 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: guilty of this, this is all alleged. Maybe all this 527 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: is where you're happening to the legal dance. Maybe all 528 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: the facts are wrong, or maybe she should serve time 529 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: in a prison cell if these allegations are true. No deals, no, 530 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, probation uh and should be federal and this 531 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: should be this should be the way this goes down, 532 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: that is what justice looks like here. And if anything, 533 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: I tend to be a little squishy on nonviolent crimes, 534 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: not when you're a prosecutor. Not when you're sending people 535 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: away and telling them their families don't get to see 536 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: them for a few Thanksgivings because they got a tip 537 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: on a stock. And remember again, she claims she was 538 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: married to her dad. I mean that is serious fraud, right. 539 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: They probably have the same last name. She's expecting that 540 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: they're not going to pay attention. That's my bet. And 541 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Virginia as the primary residence. When you are required by law, 542 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: if you are the New York State Attorney General, to 543 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: have your primary residence in the state of New York. 544 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: This is really easy stuff. And to the point buck, theoretically, 545 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: you could charge each of these fraud acts one in 546 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: New York because that is where the property is that 547 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: she claims she was married to her dad, one in Virginia, 548 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: and you could prosecute both and theoretically get different jury. 549 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: If you're worried about how a New York City jury 550 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: might respond compared to a Virginia jury, I would bet. Also, 551 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: I'll reiterate this, I bet this is a state crime too, 552 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: so it's federal, yes, but I bet there is a 553 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: mortgage fraud statute in the state of New York. I 554 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: know that there is because of my experience in New York. Absolutely, 555 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: so when I was the NYPD, it could have been 556 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: state or federal, which is why it's so useful clay, 557 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: when you're doing like a terrorism investigation, because if the 558 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: Feds don't want it, we could still take it on 559 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 1: the state side at the PDE. So this is well, 560 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: my point on that is, we know Glenn Youngkin is 561 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: the governor, and we know Jason Miarrez is the Attorney 562 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: general in Virginia. So not only may she have federal 563 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: issues to consider with Pam Bondy as the attorney general, 564 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: because there are certainly federal charges here, she might have 565 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: to worry about state charges being brought by the Republican 566 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: governor and attorney general because she might be somewhat protected 567 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: in New York in a way that she might not 568 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: be in Virginia, which is why that's significant too. I 569 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: think that's I think that's true, and I would just 570 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: add to this Clay. They probably will start to run 571 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: a oh, it's no it's a no harm, no foul crime. 572 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: And again I would agree with that to some extent 573 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: if the argument was made in a vacuum applicable to 574 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: or rather if the argument was made in a way 575 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: that was applicable to all and all going forward. She 576 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: used this to go after Trump. She has used this 577 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: to incarcerate other people. I'm sure of it, just because 578 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: this is a standard crime that has brought, you know, 579 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: standard charge that has brought against people in states across 580 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: the country. And if you if you're gonna if you're 581 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna lock there's a very important legal principle here. If 582 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna lock people away for something as a prosecutor, 583 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: and you do the same thing, you get the same time, 584 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: absolutely critical. And also think about the just sheer, bravado 585 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: and arrogance to do this while you are prosecuting cases 586 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: on fraud. It's just it's I agree with you. I 587 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: think it's worse. We should hold her to a higher 588 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: stand absolutely, and the arrogance to do it while you're 589 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: trying to put people away in prison. You're gonna put 590 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: Trump's accountant in Rikers Island because they didn't announce that 591 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: he had a car. 592 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: I would argue. 593 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: I would argue that prosecutors should have the highest ethical 594 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: standards of anyone in our entire government and entire government apparatus. 595 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean, judges would be kind of next on the list. 596 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: But the decision to prosecute is the decision to destroy. 597 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: I've sat in meetings where that decision has been made, 598 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: Clay Right, You've dealt with it from the trying to 599 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: save somebody from the destruction side. On the defense side, 600 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: I've been there when they've said, are we going to 601 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: pass this along? You know, what does the DA think 602 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: on this? 603 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: Right? 604 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: I've been in some of those meetings. Once the charge comes, 605 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: so much damage has already done. Even if the person, 606 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: even if the charges eventually would driver pay attention to 607 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: the result. The charge gets a ton of attention, even 608 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: the allegation in the cases of sexual assault, which is 609 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: why I've been so fired up about the me two 610 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: cases in general. 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Speed 646 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 647 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 3: your podcasts. 648 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: Right Welcome back in. 649 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: We had a pretty quick turnaround here on Clay and 650 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 1: Buck will take some calls and get into some more 651 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: of your thoughts on This is a big story and 652 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: it goes to a lot of what we've talked about 653 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: here on the show about the weaponization of law and 654 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: democrats have they they wanted it, they messed around, and 655 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: now they're finding out they decided to push all this stuff. 656 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: So I think reciprocity here, meaning in enforcing the law 657 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: as it is actually written in these cases is critical. 658 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: Let's a VIP email from Jim. If Martha Stewart had 659 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: to do time for insider trading, Latissa James should do time. 660 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: Clay again, I agree with the principal and that was 661 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: James Comy. Everybody, big surprise there. 662 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 663 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: Look, I mean the idea behind many people who are 664 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: celebrities being charged, and I'm not taking a side on 665 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: whether or not I agree with it, is that it 666 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: provides notice to people who are not famous of the 667 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: consequences of behavior, whether you're faces or infamous, or or 668 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: just any call up to terrence prosecution. That's right, is 669 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: the is the term they use in the industry. 670 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 2: John and Pallisades Park, New Jersey. Way in my friends, 671 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: why are your first? 672 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 5: Congratulations on a new baby and thank you Easter. I 673 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 5: just hope, I hope you guys are right, But I 674 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 5: think you're getting way too excited. I think she's just 675 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 5: gonna do an otani. He's going to find somebody else 676 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 5: to blame it on. 677 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: She will talk. 678 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: Who's is that the baseball player? Yeah, the baseball player. 679 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for the call in. Happy Easter to everybody. A 680 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: little bit in advance. But yeah, Otani gambling case. Evidently 681 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: he was not involved in those cases, so I don't 682 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: want to throw him under the bus. He had a 683 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: financial advisor that was reportedly managing his money that was 684 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: paid placing lots of bets. As a result, that guy's 685 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: going to prison. Otani is perfectly fine. We'll talk more 686 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: about this. I think Letitia's in trouble.