1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Get ready now for Beyond Contact with 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Captain Rong. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week are Beyond. 12 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: We'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of 13 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from 14 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: the newest cases. 15 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 4: As we talked with the top experts. Hi, and welcome 16 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 4: to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and today we're 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: speaking with Byron Belisos. Byron is an award winning book 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 4: publisher and an author, editor, journalist, and educator. He is 19 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: a leading proponent of the famed Granchi book, which he 20 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 4: has studied for over forty years now maybe even fifty years, 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: we'll ask him. He has been training in philosophy, psychology, history, 22 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 4: and theology. He is also versed in the UFO topic 23 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 4: as well as government disclosure beyond its ties to just 24 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: the Urancha book. Hi, Byron, welcome. Hey are you Are 25 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: you at fifty years to study in this book? Now? 26 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Yes? 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: Got on fifty one years. Holy Gow, that's amazing, incredible. 28 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: You're the right guy to ask these questions then, so listen. 29 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: I over the years have heard about these various famous 30 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: books from time to time. They claim to have possibly 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: been written by aliens or higher beings of some sort, 32 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 4: and they're often channeled through a human who writes them 33 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 4: down and oftentimes even claim that they have no knowledge 34 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: of what they were writing. There's things like the Voyage 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: Manuscript from the fifteenth century. We have no idea what 36 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: language or script that is even in. Then there's things 37 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: like the Seth Book, which was written in the sixties 38 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,559 Speaker 4: by Jane Roberts, who claims entirely written by a discarnate 39 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: entity named Seth, and that work actually introduced concepts like multidimensionality, 40 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: parallel realities, and things like that. There's also things like 41 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: the Emerald Tablets from the eighth or ninth century, which 42 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 4: is supposedly written by Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian 43 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: god both. There are many many more examples. You know, 44 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: the Book of Daizan. I'm not pronouncing any of these correct, 45 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure. But then there's the Osif, the Bible, and 46 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Many of these works 47 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 4: claim to be channeled from ets, Atlanteans, or even angels. 48 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 4: Then there's your Ranchibook, which is probably the most famous 49 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: of all of these, which claims to be transmitted by 50 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: a super human celestial intelligence and even supposedly shares parallels 51 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: between its cosmology and modern extraterrestrial contact narratives. So, Byron, 52 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: let's start here. Can you tell us who you believe 53 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: is the actual author of this book? 54 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 5: I actually don't have a belief about that, because the 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 5: way it turned out is that there were copyright lawsuits 56 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: because a lot of steak here with the Ranchibook. Right, So, 57 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 5: the original copyright was awarded by the copyright office to 58 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 5: the original printer publisher of the Ranch Foundation, and they 59 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 5: had a good reason for that. But if you pressed 60 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 5: it in a court to show us who's the author 61 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 5: there is no author. Now, if it was channeled by somebody, 62 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 5: the channeler is the author by law, so they could 63 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 5: not show it in any way who channeled it because 64 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 5: it was not channeled it was it was received in 65 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 5: other by other means. So it's in a class by itself. 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: Even Okay, do you have a suspect of who it 67 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: might be? Was it it's some sort of higher being? Right? 68 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 5: No, Yeah, The actual authors who brought this forward are 70 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 5: thirty two higher beings actually from the center of the 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 5: galaxy and from other places are two. 72 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: Different people, thirty two different entities that participated in the south. 73 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: Folks have to understand this is a huge book, like 74 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 4: thousands of pages. 75 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 5: Right, yes, twenty ninety six pages and one hundred ninety 76 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 5: six chapters. Chapters are written by different beings, so certain 77 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 5: beings are experts in certain areas, for example. So that's 78 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 5: why we have multiple authors, like an anthology written by 79 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 5: different authors. 80 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 4: Now, when you say beings, are you referring to extraterrestrials 81 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: that live off planet? Are you referring to angels? What 82 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: are you referring to. 83 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 5: Specifically angelic beings? So it's not like sort of the 84 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 5: old Christian cosmology of angels flying round and wings. It's 85 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 5: ultra sophisticated cosmology with higher worlds at different levels, going 86 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 5: all the way to the center of the galaxy. But also, 87 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: as you may remember, Captain Ron, there's also a central 88 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 5: universe that's eternal according to the ranch of book, so 89 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: beings that come from there are eternal beings or they 90 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 5: stem from the eternal realm, meaning they're very very high 91 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 5: advanced being. So there's different categories and that's why you 92 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 5: need you Ranch book to explain the sophisticated nature of 93 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 5: our cosmos. 94 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 4: Now, this book has been under a lot of scrutiny 95 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: over the years. What makes you convinced that it's even 96 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: what it claims to be. 97 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 5: For me, it's really the feeling of excellence that I 98 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 5: get when I read it. And that's maybe a little 99 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 5: different from me because I was an English professor at 100 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: one point, correcting students papers. After that, I became a 101 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: book publisher, some editing people's books, and you can tell 102 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 5: when you do that you know the depth of mind 103 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 5: of the writer and there the scope of what they know. 104 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: And there's nothing like this in world literature that I know, 105 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 5: and I've published over fifty books. I've been a coach 106 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: to people who run publishing company, you know, so when 107 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 5: you look at a text like this, you just just showstopping. 108 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 5: So this day, I'm just reading a paper forty nine, 109 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 5: which I want to talk to about, and it's just 110 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: like impossible for human to write that. The scope of 111 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 5: knowledge is way beyond human and it's all plausible and 112 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 5: it's internally consistent. So when you have all that excellence, 113 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: you say, well, that's got to be superhuman. 114 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: It's really interesting that you say that there's this number 115 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: of evangelic beings that participated in the creation of this document. 116 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 4: Do they all sort of sound the same or do 117 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: they have distinct voices themselves? 118 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 5: This is not much variation, but for example, don't want 119 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 5: to just mentioned paper forty nine. It sounds a little 120 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 5: bit more like a textbook and is written by this 121 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 5: being who's who's a kind of like a professor in 122 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 5: a higher world that is kind of giving overviews of 123 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: big systems. Right, So it sounds like but you may 124 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: know that there is a very long biography of Jesus 125 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 5: and the authors of that are more so there's more 126 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 5: feeling and romance in that writing because it's about Jesus, 127 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 5: it's about his life and its teaching, so that has 128 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 5: a different quality. And by the way, the authors of 129 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 5: that are the indigenous angelic beings of planet Earth. 130 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: Wow, there are indigenous angelic beings to Earth or your ranchi. 131 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: Isn't that what your antia means? Isn't that the name? 132 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 5: It just just means it's the name of our planet. 133 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 5: According to the Higher Worlds, every planet has indigenous angels, 134 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: and they're actually midway angels. Is they're midway between humans 135 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 5: and seraphim. So seraphim are not local citizens of our planet. 136 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 5: They're here by assignment that can be a very long time. 137 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 5: But these are the beings that are indigenous and they're 138 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 5: they're like the historians of the planet. They've been here 139 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 5: from day one and so they've remained residents. So they 140 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 5: were present while Jesus was on Earth, and they witnessed 141 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 5: and have their own records. So they wrote part for 142 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 5: the Ranch book. 143 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 4: Interesting, you speak to it in a way that these guys, 144 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: these angelic beings are teachers and almost I've heard you 145 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: use the word like parent, Like they're almost like a 146 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: parent or guardian or overseer of us. In some way. 147 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: Is that the impression you get. 148 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a kind of parental in a sense. The 149 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 5: deity is parental, like it's our creator, right, So it's 150 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 5: sort of like our father and mother, and so they 151 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: have love for their progeny, and so there is this 152 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: sense of love that comes through with the text and 153 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 5: high regard for us and kind of dignifying who we 154 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 5: are because we're related to them. 155 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: Now, are there things in this that the authors put 156 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: in there that we couldn't have known that maybe humanity 157 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 4: would not be aware of, Like it feels to me, 158 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 4: this would be something that any higher being, whether it's 159 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 4: an angel or an extraterrestrial, would be able to do this. 160 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 4: They could communicate something to humans that we haven't yet discovered, 161 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: and then when we do discover it, it would add 162 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: this massive degree of credibility to that work. Is there 163 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: something like that? I mean something definitive, not something that's 164 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 4: vaguely interpreted. Is there anything definitive in there that they 165 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 4: put in that we didn't know about when it was 166 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: put down? 167 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: Just a ton of stuff kept iron because there's archaeological 168 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 5: materials of lots of science, physics, biology, but one in particular, 169 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 5: as you may Or Matt When I was first invited 170 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: to speak at the Contact of the Desert, that's fifteen 171 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 5: years ago. I presented the discovery of this archaeological site 172 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 5: that Duranchibook said was off the coast of Syria between 173 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: Syria and Cyprus, and we mounted an expedition and found it. 174 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 5: There were two expeditions. First of one, we sold the 175 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 5: rights to the History Channel. They funded an underwater expedition 176 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 5: and we found there was a big deals in two 177 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 5: thousand and seven, so we had coverage all over the 178 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 5: world for this. We've found artifact one mile down which 179 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 5: is where the Ranch books that it would be. And 180 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 5: this is pretty far out stuff because it's the location 181 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 5: of Adam and Eve. 182 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 4: Wow. Well, that to me adds some credibility to it 183 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: right there. If it actually panned out and it is 184 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: where the book sad it was, that's pretty interesting testimony 185 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: right there. Hey, Brian, we're going to take a quick 186 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: break here and we come back. We're going to ask 187 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: you what their Urania books specifically says about the nearby 188 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: inhabited worlds in our universe. You're listening to Beyond Contact 189 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: on the iHeartRadio and coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 190 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 4: We are back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking with Byron 191 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 4: Belitos about the Ranchi book allegedly written by these higher 192 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 4: angelic beings. So what does the uranech your book say 193 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 4: about the nearby inhabited worlds in our universe? 194 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 5: Well, it has a ton about it. So it says 195 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 5: that the organization of inhabited planets is pretty sophisticated because 196 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 5: there are seven trillion inhabited planets spread out through all 197 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 5: those galaxies, right, So you already have two Trojan galaxies 198 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: out there. But not all galaxies are inhabited, right, So 199 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 5: that's the other part of the cosmologist fascinating. Certain galaxies 200 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 5: are inhabited that are closer in to the central universe 201 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 5: that I refer to that sort of the source universe. 202 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 5: Some other universe around it are rings of galaxies that 203 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 5: are inhabited. So as you go further out, they're uninhabited. 204 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: So that's a preface to answer your question. But so 205 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 5: the organization is such that they're clusters of galaxies that 206 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 5: are called super universes. They're big clusters, and it's a 207 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 5: little bit disputed. It's not exactly sure what they mean that, 208 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 5: but these are super universes they call them. Each one 209 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 5: has one trillion inhabited planets. So then you break that down. 210 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 5: I'll do that quickly. So the next unit of organization 211 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 5: is local universes. So our local universe is potential ten 212 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 5: million inhabited worlds. And then break that down. 213 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're using a different scale here of local, you know, 214 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 4: and it's may. 215 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 5: Be as big as the Milky Way. It's not exactly 216 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 5: clear whether they mean the Milky Way. I don't think 217 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 5: it does. I think it means a sector of the 218 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 5: Milky Way, a big sector, and so that's particular sector. 219 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: And all sectors are divided into subunits, and the lowest 220 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: unit is a system of one thousand inhabited planets. So 221 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 5: we're in a system of every planet's in a system. 222 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 5: So there's a distinction. Mainly. Range book in this paper 223 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 5: forty nine I alluded to that says that you don't 224 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 5: have to have an atmosphere in order to have life. 225 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 5: You can have non atmospheric echis right. They can come 226 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 5: from worlds that have no atmosphere. They're called non breather worlds. 227 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 5: You can also have an atmosphere like Venus which is 228 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: not like ours, is full of all this dust and 229 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: electrical radiations that makes it it possible for our kind 230 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 5: of bodies. But it states that those worlds are called 231 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: super breather worlds. There's worlds like that where you can 232 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: have life, so it's possible. Personally, I think it's very 233 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 5: likely that there's life on Venus that I have no 234 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 5: proof of that. It just infer from what I know. 235 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 5: Those are super breathers. But on Mars, where you have 236 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 5: almost no atmosphere, there would be a type of being 237 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: as different, and then on a world with none at all. 238 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 5: So the retchbook says definitively that there's a non breather 239 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 5: world in local proximity, meaning in our Solar system. So 240 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: some of us think it may be one of the 241 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 5: worlds around Saturn, for one of the moons of Saturn, 242 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: for example. 243 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: The fact that they're mentioning planets and millions of worlds 244 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: and tens of millions of worlds, that's something one hundred 245 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 4: and twenty years ago we didn't know. We didn't know 246 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: that there were other planets definitively till thirty five years ago, 247 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: so that would be one of those things that's mentioned 248 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: in the book that we did not know about. 249 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, really, I mean it's way ahead because that 250 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 5: was promulgated in the late thirties and forties. The Ranch 251 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 5: Book is way ahead of all of this. Back when 252 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 5: we Ranch Book first coming through, we didn't even know 253 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: there were galaxies. It was only cable as you know 254 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: that Hubble and his associates discovered the fact that there 255 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 5: were other galaxies, right so, right, that was around the time. 256 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 5: So the Ranch Books said, well are millions of galaxies? 257 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: HA said that long before, and same with planets, and 258 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,359 Speaker 5: so they're way ahead on the number of inhabiteds. 259 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a piece of credible thing that I 260 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: was looking for right there, because you know, like you're saying, 261 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: when this came out, the entirety of the universe was 262 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: thought to be our little galaxy. So the fact that 263 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: there's other galaxies and it says that in there, I 264 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: think speaks to some credibility for the book. 265 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 5: And there's other items. If I may mention Blaze. It 266 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 5: mayn't sound like a big deal to everybody, but the 267 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: fact that that we have tectonic plates on the Earth 268 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 5: and that they shift and they move around, that was 269 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: not known when the ranchibook came out at all. It 270 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 5: was had been suggested, but what had been rejected by scientists. 271 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: But by the sixties and definitely the seventies, it was 272 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 5: accepted that there was continental you know, continental drift. That theory. 273 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 5: Your anchibook is the first place to say there was 274 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 5: continental drift twenty or thirty years prior to that. And 275 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 5: there's a kind of a famous geophysicist that wrote a 276 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 5: book a few years ago said well, I don't know 277 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 5: who these Urantia book people are, but they got this 278 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 5: thing nailed, and I don't know how they could have 279 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: done it, because you know, it shows you know, the 280 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 5: ractebook says this is how you know, Africa separated from 281 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: Latin America and Pangaea is what we now call it 282 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 5: instance big mass of land, and then it separated because 283 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 5: of TikTok. See your anchibook said that long before that's 284 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: done by itself is a pretty major proof. 285 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's pretty incredible. I like that. Do you 286 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: think any of these intelligences that they're referring to, these 287 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: tens of millions of other beings, are the ones in 288 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: fact that are visiting Earth in US? 289 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: Big question? Thank you for these great questions. There's a 290 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 5: consideration I have and many of us have, which is this. 291 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 5: For example, you know, I was on that panel at 292 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: CD last time with Richard Dolan. We talked about USO's 293 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: right underwater ships. As you may know, I question that 294 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 5: saying that if they're there, I mean they are there, 295 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 5: you know seven or eight different locations that he has identified. 296 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: If they're there, they may not be friendly, because if 297 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 5: they were friendly, they would have diplomatic relations with us. 298 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: So why am I saying this. I'm saying this because 299 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 5: we're taught in the Wrench a book that there was 300 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 5: a rebellion of the angels that broached in the Bible 301 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 5: in Genesis Genesis sixty four, that there was a rebellion 302 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 5: of the angels and on certain planets. You Wrench book 303 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 5: says certain planets are like our planet. We had a 304 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 5: rebellion of our angels. That's why we're such a backward world. 305 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 5: That's why we have so much poverty and war and suffering. 306 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: So there are thirty six other planets that joined this rebellion. 307 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 5: It's called the loose for rebellion, and those planets, some 308 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 5: of those planets may be the ones that were advanced 309 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 5: enough to have interstellar travel, and they're the ones that 310 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: are here. That's one possibility. The other possibilities that they're 311 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 5: benign and they've been here for eons. It's kind of 312 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 5: what Richard Gola suggested, that they're doing it by right 313 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 5: of that they're here first, and so they're surveiling us 314 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: for benign reasons. 315 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: Does the book address why these et stay so clandestine 316 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: even if they've been here before us? Why would they 317 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 4: just not reveal themselves at all? Ever? Is there any 318 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 4: talk of that? 319 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 5: No, it doesn't go so much into the euphology space, 320 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 5: because you know, it's revealing enough to say, all these 321 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 5: plants are out there. You know, it's previous to our dilemma. 322 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 5: Really that begins in the fifties forties. But there was 323 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: later transmissions that we haven't talked about that are in dispute, 324 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 5: that are we from the Ranch book itself, but they're 325 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 5: from the beings. They came in the eighties and nineties, 326 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 5: and that's a whole other topic, and they stated, yeah, 327 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: that there are these ets that are that are visiting us. 328 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 5: And the sort of stuff we talk about has been 329 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: affirmed by these later telepathic transmissions. 330 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 4: And to do those sync up with the you know, 331 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: with the alien encounters that people claim to have had 332 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: and their even abduction experiences. 333 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 5: They do a little bit. But what we found in 334 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 5: these dialogues with these higher beings come to teach your ranchos. 335 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 5: In other words, they're actually like professors of the ranchibook, 336 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 5: but they're higher beings, right, and they're telepathically taking questions, 337 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 5: and they evaded the questions about UFOs because it was 338 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: more like something that we're supposed to do ourselves. We're 339 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 5: supposed to figure this out using the context of the 340 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 5: Rancho book. And that's what I've tried to do in 341 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 5: my work now for thirty years, is to say, yeah, 342 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 5: some of them may not be benign. Well, I was 343 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 5: saying that for a long time, So over time we 344 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 5: began to learn that there were great draco reptilions and others, 345 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 5: But we still don't have affirmation that some of them 346 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 5: come from the so called rebellion planets. If they do, 347 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 5: they're very close to us. They're our local system. So 348 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 5: remember the local system of inhabited wolves is a few 349 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: light years away, so they could easily perhaps have come 350 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 5: here their rogue. 351 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: That close local system of ten million worlds, right exactly. 352 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: There's the ten million, then there's the subset which is 353 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 5: one thousand, So are. 354 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 4: Icy so that is getting more local? Sure? Yeah, these 355 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: are just such giant scales. They're like beyond geological even, 356 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: you know. Okay, let's take a break here, when would 357 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: come right back. We're going to ask Byron if he 358 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: believes these ets have physically visited Earth beyond just being 359 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 4: channeled through consciousness communications. You're listening to Beyond Contact on 360 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. 361 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: We are back on Beyond Contact talking to Byron. Byron, 362 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: what about this visitation to Earth? Do you think these 363 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: ets have physically been here? You mentioned earlier that maybe 364 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: somebody had been here even before us. Do you think 365 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 4: that there's been a physical presence of ets all along 366 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 4: or have they visited here or is it limited to 367 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: consciousness communication? 368 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 5: Captain, let me address that from the unique perspective of 369 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: the Ranch book revelation about visitations. So, the visitations we've had, 370 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 5: which I've spoken about at Contact in the Desert in 371 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 5: twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen were of two types. There 372 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 5: was a type that came here half a million years 373 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: ago that we would consider to be like extraterrestrials because 374 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 5: they were physical form. So this is what Sitchen, Sagarai, 375 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 5: Sitch and others I believe would would say, are the Atnaki. 376 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 5: It's complicated, okay. So the Ranch Book says, like Sitchen, 377 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 5: Sitchen said it was about four hundred and fifty thousand 378 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 5: years ago, as you right, Ranch book says more like 379 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 5: five hundred thousand years ago. So this first visitation was 380 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 5: a very benign visitation. You know, things are really really 381 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 5: primitive back then. They didn't have you know, the wheel, 382 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 5: they didn't have alphabets, that didn't have so the these 383 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: higher beings, it came in physical form. They built a 384 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 5: world capital. That was what was supposed to happen. So 385 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 5: every planet has a capital city established by ets, if 386 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 5: you will, the kind of hybrid et angels actually in 387 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 5: the Ranch book, so that that was there for two 388 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty thousand years. So it's similar to Sitchen 389 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 5: he said it was about I think he says tw 390 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty thousand years ago. He says this kind 391 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 5: of rebellion, right, So the Ranch Book says the same thing, 392 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 5: just says there was a rebellion about that time, so 393 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: it broke up this original sort of location the city 394 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: and it went to pieces, and that's where you get 395 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 5: the legend of the Nephilim in the Bible. The ET's 396 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 5: that were here for benign reasons, some of them went rogue. 397 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 5: They went with the rebellion that I mentioned before, the 398 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 5: looser rebellion. They became parties to the rebellion. So they 399 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: became what we call the nephilm, And indeed they were 400 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 5: larger in size. This is a big visitation. There were 401 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 5: one hundred of them, and sixty of them went rogue, 402 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 5: and then the forty were the ones that didn't, and 403 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 5: so they remained too. So very very poor records of 404 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 5: this in the cuneiform tablets, there's all kinds of reference, 405 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 5: but it's all conflated with later later developments. The second 406 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 5: visitation is hard to believe, but it's an et like 407 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: because it's physical. It's Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve 408 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: would seem to be a myth, but the Rancher book 409 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 5: makes a very very big point of saying there really 410 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 5: was an anim and even that they have the special mission. 411 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 5: So the mission is to inter marry their children with humans. 412 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: That is to say, their progeny Adam and Eve are 413 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 5: reproducing couple their children. Remember the Bible, there's a little 414 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 5: reference to their children, right, So their children would populate 415 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 5: this zone called Eden. Right, so Eden we think is Cypress, 416 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 5: the island of Cyprus. Okay, there's a section of Cypress 417 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 5: that has collapsed much later and it's now deep underwater 418 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: right next to Cypress and across from Syria that I 419 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 5: mentioned earlier, that that that was actually researched by our 420 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: team and we found artifacts. So anyway, so these so 421 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 5: it's hard to explain in a few minutes, but their 422 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 5: children would to fan out throughout the world and intermary 423 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 5: and so there'll be a higher DNA injection caused by 424 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 5: this sort of et presence of Adam and Eve. So 425 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 5: their children were really off planet children that are populating 426 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 5: the Earth. Why is this because biology, those of you 427 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 5: you know, did your biology in college, whatever you you 428 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 5: evolved to a certain plateau and then their leaps in 429 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 5: the in the DNA in the genetics. Right, So this 430 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 5: couple is meant to induce DNA evolution much more, much 431 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 5: more quickly. So certain attributes are brought into the gene 432 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 5: pool to the Adam and Eve children, such as humor, 433 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 5: you know, spirituality, musical ability. These things are injected from outside. 434 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 5: So it's it's it's quite a story, it is. 435 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 4: And you know, it's very interesting to me how we're 436 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 4: talking about these things that came out after their ranch 437 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: of book. Zachar Arya Sitchen is one of them. And 438 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 4: you keep bringing up parallels to his work based on 439 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 4: the Sumerian text, of course, And isn't that interesting how 440 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 4: it's already in the Urranchi book and then here, you know, 441 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: seventy years later his work came out, and you seem 442 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: to think that there's a lot of ties. 443 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 5: I think there's a parallel in that his timeline, however, 444 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 5: not much more because his interpretation is, as you may know, Captain, 445 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 5: he has been in a way debunked by various critics, 446 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 5: including people that actually read uniform tablets. 447 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: Actually absolutely true. But also the Urranchi book has a 448 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: lot of critics and people debunk that oftentimes, don't. 449 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 5: They They try, but they don't get far. I mean 450 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 5: there's very few. I mean, the only ones that really 451 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 5: do it are fundamentalist Christians, you know, And I've been 452 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 5: around academia in all sorts of places. I've never had 453 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 5: anybody try to refute anything particular other than fundamentalists. And 454 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 5: the way it's dealt with is by ignoring it. 455 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: To be honest, gotcha, I want to ask you this, 456 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: How do near death experiencers compare it to what said 457 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 4: in the ur Anti Text? 458 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 5: Oh, that's a great question. The Uranchia text is maybe 459 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 5: the best source certainly that I've ever seen about life 460 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 5: after death. And I've looked at the literature and I 461 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 5: wrote a whole book on it. I don't know if 462 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 5: you know that. It's called Your Evolving Soul. I wrote 463 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 5: that in twenty seventeen, pretty well received book. And so 464 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: I do comparison, kind of comparative. You know, what we 465 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 5: know from the Bible, for example, about life after death 466 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 5: is like a fairy tale. It's almost nothing. The Rancher 467 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: book is vastly, vastly more information about it, very coherent stuff. 468 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 5: So I was at the Near Death Experience Conference, as 469 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 5: you may know, was in Chicago recently. Actually we had 470 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 5: a Urancha booth there and I didn't speak there. But 471 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: but you know, those scenarios of meeting your angels in 472 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 5: the afterlife is affirmed by the Ranch Book, So this 473 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 5: is kind of an affirmation. The Ranch Book says that 474 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 5: you have a kind of life review, and so do 475 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 5: these endes. But the Ranch Books goes even much further 476 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 5: a life review than the NDEs. It says, it's actually 477 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 5: goes on for quite a long time in your afterlife. 478 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's interesting the timing of this regarding 479 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 4: after World War One and before World War two. It's 480 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 4: just an interesting time that this book came out. Do 481 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: you think that the ets and or angels have influenced 482 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 4: human evolution, you know, culture, religion at these key moments 483 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 4: in history? 484 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 5: Another great question. The Ranche Book is really a product 485 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 5: of post World War two, although it was initiated after 486 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 5: World War One, and in my writings tread to show 487 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 5: that it's already stayed in the Ranch Book and elsewhere 488 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: that when you're in great crisis, that's when your parents intervene. Right, 489 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 5: So if you if you're very old, your mom and 490 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 5: dad now in their seventies are going to help you out, right. 491 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 5: So the same thing with celestial beings. So when you 492 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 5: have something like a genocide like the Holocaust, you know 493 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 5: when you're at the bottom, you've hit bottom, sort of 494 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 5: like being an alcoholic hit bottom, that's when you need 495 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 5: your higher power. So that's why the Ranch Book is 496 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: timed for the greatest crisis in human history. It was 497 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 5: really World War two my view, So. 498 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 4: Then I should should expect them to land on the 499 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: White House lawn in the next thirty days based on 500 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: the world. The world right now, right, I mean what 501 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: you were interviewing. Okay, when we come back, we're going 502 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 4: to ask Byron about his thoughts on government disclosure, another 503 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: big thing happening in our world. You're listening to be 504 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: on Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 505 00:28:51,960 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: Paranormal podcast network. We are back on Beyond Contact speaking 506 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: with Byron now. We want to ask him about government disclosure. 507 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: Why do you think they've been so silent on the 508 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: UFO issue. 509 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 5: I'm in the day she had camp the blast, which 510 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 5: is that you know there's a criminality behind us. I mean, 511 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 5: that's what we all know. I mean those of us 512 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 5: go to c I, td as Sea or tred Dole 513 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 5: and the others have exposed that this is criminalized behavior. 514 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: And also I think there's another piece that is in 515 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 5: a way relevant which is we're not really ready yet. 516 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 5: So much for disclosure. Let's put this. We're not ready 517 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 5: for disclosure of how deeply criminal it is. That's one piece, 518 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 5: it's like hard to believe. But we're also not really 519 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 5: ready for disclosure of who they are, you know, Draco reptility, 520 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 5: you know, whoever the hell they are. That they are 521 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: not benign, although the benign ones are here too, So 522 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 5: this is complicated stuff. 523 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: It is what do you think that the knowledge keepers 524 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 4: are afraid of? Besides the criminality, Is it that that 525 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 4: we're not ready? Is that what you think it is? 526 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: Because people do say they don't let this out because 527 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 4: humanity is not ready, religion is not ready, everything's going 528 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: to break down. Do you think that's why they're holding 529 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: this information? 530 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I was not unsympathetic with this. The 531 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 5: story about the Collins Elite, you know that luellas Onto 532 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 5: talked about and others have talked about. Nick Redford has 533 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 5: a wonderful book on that. It's a mind bowing book. 534 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: That there are Christians and the Pentagon who feel that 535 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 5: ets are demonic and they behind the scenes have blocked 536 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 5: a lot of the stuff. You know, as a practicing 537 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 5: Christian myself, I think that there is a demonic element, 538 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: which is the Dracoreptilians, because according to rancherbook, they're demonic angels, right, 539 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 5: so they work together with demonic ets. The scary stuff. 540 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: I got to tell you. In the last year, I 541 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: have heard over and over how often religious figures seem 542 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: to overlamp with extraterrestrials, like that there's some confusion or 543 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: some tie in between extraterrestrial beings, off world beings and 544 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 4: those from spiritual realms, like angels and demons. They're often 545 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 4: associated together, and even some people talk about that the 546 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: knowledge keepers or whatever do think that these are demonic 547 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: and that's why they don't want to release this information. 548 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 5: I think that's a part of it. I don't think 549 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 5: that the Collins will lead. That kind of element is huge, 550 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 5: but it's like a percentage of it. But I think 551 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 5: the other thing is a sincere feeling that it would 552 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 5: be so shocking that they would be kind of chaos. 553 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 5: And I'll put it this way, as we got a 554 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 5: kind of purveyor of the Rancho book. It's shocking even 555 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 5: this book, you can't believe it. I mean, in universities 556 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 5: it's just banned more or less. So why is that? 557 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 5: Because I just can't handle they're just not at the 558 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 5: evolution of the consciousness is just not and it is 559 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 5: it is just not. 560 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 4: If it's a lot to swallow, if you're outside of 561 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: this community or you're new to this material, it certainly 562 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: is a lot to swallow in your view, what's the 563 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: most credible piece of evidence that the US government's hiding 564 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 4: non human intelligence technology? 565 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 5: Well, the whistleblowers of course have given us, you know, 566 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 5: certainly verbal testimony. They haven't shown us much obviously, so 567 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 5: really the USOS, I mean that that story the Dolan 568 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 5: develops is very vivid, it's very compelling, but all of citing, 569 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 5: you know, you just put it all together. And the 570 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 5: fact that other governments have disclosed I mean Brazil, what 571 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 5: is it, France. 572 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 4: They have a now really formal, full on big d disclosure. 573 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: They haven't really come out and definitively said yes, this 574 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: is real, Yes we have this, or here's a body 575 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 4: or here's a ship. Nobody's done that. They're just more 576 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: open to it than we are. And we've they've released 577 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: some documents, but not well. 578 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 5: On to correct. Yeah, I think that it's imminent. I mean, 579 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 5: it's certainly, you know, you'll get Chris Bledsoe and the 580 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 5: phenomena around ye are pretty compelling at the moment. 581 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 4: Compelling to you. But I think there's a big part 582 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 4: of the population that don't find that compelling at all, 583 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: and they don't find there's your ranch of book compelling that. 584 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 4: A lot of people don't feel this is enough to 585 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: move the needle because it doesn't move the needle. We 586 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: have these movies come out, we have these trust conferences, 587 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 4: and we have these whistleblowers, and the people in the 588 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 4: community seem to really get excited about it, but it 589 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 4: does not seem to move the needle overall for the 590 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: vast majority of the population. 591 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 5: Well, I think, like like genetics, you know, there are 592 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 5: leaps genetically that happen that are sudden, and I think 593 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 5: this is the time for that, because there's a platform 594 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 5: that's been developed by you know, people like you, you know, 595 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 5: to bring this forward. And I think that in the 596 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: next year or two, the population is going to leap 597 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 5: into this. 598 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: Really do really, so you're you're with Steve Bassett, you 599 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: really think we are imminently close to actual government disclosure. 600 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 5: I wouldn't put it that way, I'd say it's it's 601 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 5: it's getting to the point that the population, you know, 602 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 5: the constituency, the government is going to demand it as 603 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 5: it has been, and it's going to become critical mass 604 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 5: in the next two years. Because I think the ETS themselves, 605 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 5: and this is what you get from the GFL transmissions, 606 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 5: The ETS are orchestrating this because they feel it's time. 607 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 5: They want to disclose themselves, and so they're trying to 608 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 5: develop the consciousness so that they can do their job, 609 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 5: which is, you know, to help us. It is urgent. 610 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 5: I mean, you can't wait anymore. Really, it's like we're 611 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 5: at bottom, and so that it has to happen because 612 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 5: the nine Ets are present and they're here, they're assigned 613 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 5: according to the ranch of view of things. They're assigned 614 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 5: by the angelic host, by the higher worlds. They are 615 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 5: mandated to come and turn this thing around with us. 616 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 5: And so that's why I think this is the moment. So, yeah, 617 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: Steve Bassett lives near me here in Washington, d C. 618 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 5: We talk about this all the time. 619 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you do think that they're playing a role 620 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 4: in this disclosure, like they're ready and they're nudging it 621 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 4: along again. 622 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 5: Invite people to go to Exoreality's substack and see my 623 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 5: twenty one page research paper where I try to show 624 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 5: and justify why the Galactic Federation of Light is so active. 625 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 5: I mean they're hyperactive. There are two big transmissions a 626 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 5: day on YouTube and they're very compelling, although there's lots 627 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 5: of flaws also in some of the content. But yeah, 628 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 5: I think that it's you know, I'm a guy who 629 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 5: follows politics every day. I live in washingt d C. 630 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 5: The crisis point, we're not going to survive. We're going 631 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 5: to be in self destruction of spiral and a die 632 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 5: off climate from climate change to you know, nipper war. 633 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 5: There must be an intervention right now, and it is happening. 634 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 4: If you're not part of the cabal or whoever holds 635 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 4: this secret knowledge, I don't see why anybody would be 636 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 4: against disclosure. You may not believe in it or whatever, 637 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 4: but why would you be against it? You know, wouldn't 638 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 4: most people just be like, well, if you have something, 639 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 4: tell us, well, it's put it this way. 640 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 5: I don't think it's black and white a little bit. 641 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 5: Disagree with Stephen Bassett, you know that I think it 642 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 5: should be stage dissemination, but it should be done behind 643 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 5: me by people who have studied, thought this through. Then. Look, 644 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 5: you've got to be compassionate for those and you know 645 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 5: some live in my household here who can't handle it. 646 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 5: The rapidity has to be increased very rapidly now because 647 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 5: it's too late. It's like late in the game God 648 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 5: to get this thing out because I think about it. 649 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 5: Free energy, just that alone, you know this claim about 650 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 5: med beds, These things have to be We need free 651 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 5: energy right now and that can be disseminated. What's this 652 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 5: that's part of disclosure really, But I don't believe in 653 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 5: catastrophic as I think Danny schunkildre catastrophic just because but 654 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 5: but it's got to be. It's got to be strong. 655 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 5: And that's why, you know, I want to thank you 656 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 5: Captain Rodd for doing C I T D. It's it's 657 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 5: a fabulous service. 658 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 4: You know, we we we all love it, we all 659 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 4: be all just compelled to do it. Would you say 660 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 4: that the official disclosure process aligns with your ANCHI text? 661 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 4: Is there anything in there about that? 662 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 5: I think the spirit of it aligns with your anti 663 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 5: text because your anti texts about a friend. It's about 664 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 5: the universe is friendly, there's a loving God. 665 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 4: But it also speaks about a federation of all planets, 666 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: right that that that they participate in that, which is 667 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 4: something we hear from certain contact ees claimed that there's 668 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 4: a federation. 669 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 5: Right Well, your arch book doesn't talk about a federation 670 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 5: of planets, but it does say that all planets, you know, 671 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 5: once they're advanced, they network and they but they don't 672 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 5: speak of ships coming here. But that's inevitable. It's just obvious, 673 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 5: you know. 674 00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 4: You know. 675 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 5: So one of the big problems with uphologies they have 676 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 5: they don't have a cosmology like the Rancher book. They're 677 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 5: kind of all like a Bible cosmology or something. I mean, 678 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 5: they're using Einstein, you and you know, physics and that 679 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 5: sort of thing. But the ranch book is informing us 680 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 5: that there are tons of inhabited worlds. 681 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 4: As along with the cosmology of uphology. I'll tell you 682 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 4: that we need to stop there. Thanks a lot for 683 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 4: coming on, Byron. I appreciate you sharing everything. How can 684 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 4: people find you? 685 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 5: You can find me at my substack. It's called XO 686 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 5: Realities e XO Xorealities dot substack. 687 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, sir, and thanks everyone for listening. 688 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. You could find me on Twitter and 689 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 4: Instagram at c t D Underscore Captain Ron. Stay connected 690 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 4: by checking out contact inthedesert dot com. 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