1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,777 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, let make 2 00:00:14,777 --> 00:00:17,697 Speaker 1: sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app 3 00:00:17,897 --> 00:00:22,737 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. As President Trump going 4 00:00:22,777 --> 00:00:27,537 Speaker 1: to strike Iran, it's increasingly looking like that's the case. 5 00:00:27,577 --> 00:00:30,777 Speaker 1: In fact, some of you may know the answer, because 6 00:00:30,817 --> 00:00:33,217 Speaker 1: it could have happened by the time you listen to 7 00:00:33,337 --> 00:00:34,217 Speaker 1: this podcast. 8 00:00:35,337 --> 00:00:38,817 Speaker 2: It's of high concern for all of us. 9 00:00:38,817 --> 00:00:45,537 Speaker 1: Because, well, this is the sort of situation that can 10 00:00:45,537 --> 00:00:48,617 Speaker 1: get out of control very quickly. There's a lot of 11 00:00:49,137 --> 00:00:52,977 Speaker 1: concern about possible second order effects. What will Ron do 12 00:00:53,017 --> 00:00:53,577 Speaker 1: in response? 13 00:00:53,737 --> 00:00:54,457 Speaker 2: Here's what we know. 14 00:00:55,537 --> 00:01:03,497 Speaker 1: The Mullahs are running a theocratic totalitarian theocracy or a 15 00:01:03,577 --> 00:01:08,617 Speaker 1: dictatorship and a kleptocracy. Actually so, because they're stealing from 16 00:01:08,657 --> 00:01:12,257 Speaker 1: the people all the time. And it's enough people have 17 00:01:12,337 --> 00:01:18,897 Speaker 1: decided that the ruination of Iran is in fact not 18 00:01:19,137 --> 00:01:22,777 Speaker 1: something that they will sit idly by and allow to continue. Now, 19 00:01:22,777 --> 00:01:25,857 Speaker 1: I think that this would be great for the region 20 00:01:26,137 --> 00:01:29,457 Speaker 1: if you just had a different government, a democratic government 21 00:01:29,497 --> 00:01:34,537 Speaker 1: in Iran, for example. Wouldn't that make such a difference. 22 00:01:35,017 --> 00:01:38,057 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be something that you know, they've had democratic 23 00:01:38,057 --> 00:01:39,337 Speaker 1: elections next door in Iraq? 24 00:01:39,577 --> 00:01:40,457 Speaker 2: It is possible. 25 00:01:42,017 --> 00:01:46,697 Speaker 1: We don't want this place to be a constant problem 26 00:01:46,777 --> 00:01:49,097 Speaker 1: for the whole region, really for the whole world. They've 27 00:01:49,137 --> 00:01:55,617 Speaker 1: got substantial oil supplies, oil reserves, and they've been funding 28 00:01:55,697 --> 00:01:58,537 Speaker 1: terrorism with that for a long time. Trump is now saying, look, 29 00:01:58,617 --> 00:02:03,337 Speaker 1: if you, meaning Iran, continues with the large scale slaughter 30 00:02:03,417 --> 00:02:06,697 Speaker 1: of protesters, you are going to be done. And now 31 00:02:06,697 --> 00:02:13,937 Speaker 1: there's also reporting up here of Iranian authorities who are 32 00:02:13,977 --> 00:02:18,657 Speaker 1: targeting starlink users Elon Musk. Starlink has been a means 33 00:02:18,657 --> 00:02:21,977 Speaker 1: of communication, right because the Iranians don't control those satellites, 34 00:02:22,337 --> 00:02:25,697 Speaker 1: they can't just shut it off. But Iran has cut 35 00:02:25,697 --> 00:02:29,657 Speaker 1: off public internet access no surprise there. While starlink is 36 00:02:29,777 --> 00:02:33,417 Speaker 1: illegal in Iran, there are some starlink terminals that have 37 00:02:33,457 --> 00:02:38,177 Speaker 1: been smuggled into the country and they have been able 38 00:02:38,217 --> 00:02:42,377 Speaker 1: to slow The government has been able to slow connectivity, 39 00:02:42,777 --> 00:02:46,457 Speaker 1: but there are still some people who are able to 40 00:02:46,457 --> 00:02:48,857 Speaker 1: get footage out of Iran of what's going on there. 41 00:02:49,777 --> 00:02:53,377 Speaker 1: And so if they're actually going to be tracking these 42 00:02:53,377 --> 00:02:58,377 Speaker 1: people down and executing them, possibly hanging them, Trump is 43 00:02:58,417 --> 00:03:00,457 Speaker 1: saying that he's going to he's going to unleash the 44 00:03:00,457 --> 00:03:01,217 Speaker 1: fury on Iran. 45 00:03:01,257 --> 00:03:01,897 Speaker 2: On the Mullas. 46 00:03:02,977 --> 00:03:06,897 Speaker 1: Let me just say this could be a huge pivot 47 00:03:06,937 --> 00:03:11,177 Speaker 1: point in the history of the twenty first century. And 48 00:03:11,497 --> 00:03:14,537 Speaker 1: I will reiterate somewhat what I said earlier when I 49 00:03:14,617 --> 00:03:17,257 Speaker 1: was with Clay on radio, and it is I think 50 00:03:17,297 --> 00:03:20,577 Speaker 1: that the deciding factor here is Trump and his role 51 00:03:20,617 --> 00:03:23,217 Speaker 1: as commander in chief and what he does. I do 52 00:03:23,337 --> 00:03:26,337 Speaker 1: not think the Iranian people on their own will be 53 00:03:26,417 --> 00:03:29,577 Speaker 1: able to topple this regime. I could be wrong. I 54 00:03:29,617 --> 00:03:32,097 Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong, but I don't think that's the case. 55 00:03:32,257 --> 00:03:36,897 Speaker 1: I think that it will require assistance from the United States. 56 00:03:36,977 --> 00:03:41,977 Speaker 1: You know, we got assistance in our revolution against King 57 00:03:42,057 --> 00:03:45,217 Speaker 1: George from the French, pretty substantial assistance. 58 00:03:46,297 --> 00:03:48,057 Speaker 2: We don't need that much, I think in this case. 59 00:03:48,137 --> 00:03:49,217 Speaker 2: But we don't need to do that much. 60 00:03:49,257 --> 00:03:51,337 Speaker 1: But there does need to be there has to be 61 00:03:51,417 --> 00:03:54,897 Speaker 1: something that helps with this final show. There has to 62 00:03:54,937 --> 00:04:00,097 Speaker 1: be some ability to call upon outside resources and help, 63 00:04:00,217 --> 00:04:05,297 Speaker 1: just because the people of Tehran and around the country 64 00:04:05,337 --> 00:04:10,257 Speaker 1: are quite literally outgunned. And it's another reason why the 65 00:04:10,297 --> 00:04:14,057 Speaker 1: way second Amendment we need it. You always have to 66 00:04:14,097 --> 00:04:16,697 Speaker 1: have the ability as a populist to fight back against 67 00:04:16,697 --> 00:04:19,297 Speaker 1: the tyrannical government. Otherwise you went up in a situation 68 00:04:19,377 --> 00:04:22,737 Speaker 1: like this where the government can be fully tyrannical and 69 00:04:23,097 --> 00:04:25,657 Speaker 1: execute people and go into their homes and take them 70 00:04:25,657 --> 00:04:28,577 Speaker 1: from their family members and torture them and do horrible things, 71 00:04:29,137 --> 00:04:33,417 Speaker 1: and you're largely helpless. You're largely helpless. So you have 72 00:04:33,497 --> 00:04:35,737 Speaker 1: these protests going on in the streets. I do wish 73 00:04:35,777 --> 00:04:38,817 Speaker 1: that you had an arm populace, you don't. I do 74 00:04:38,897 --> 00:04:42,817 Speaker 1: wish that you had a better likelihood of success for 75 00:04:42,857 --> 00:04:44,977 Speaker 1: the Iranian people to do this on their own, But 76 00:04:45,057 --> 00:04:47,897 Speaker 1: I think it's very, very unlikely. So it's really going 77 00:04:47,977 --> 00:04:51,017 Speaker 1: to come down to what President Trump thinks, what President 78 00:04:51,057 --> 00:04:55,977 Speaker 1: Trump decides here. There are reports that there have been 79 00:04:56,017 --> 00:05:03,177 Speaker 1: evacuations of US service members, members of our military from Cutter, 80 00:05:03,297 --> 00:05:07,457 Speaker 1: from the airbase there, and this is at least a 81 00:05:07,497 --> 00:05:12,457 Speaker 1: precaution in case of a major strike by the United States, 82 00:05:12,897 --> 00:05:16,217 Speaker 1: because what is Iran likely to do fire off a 83 00:05:16,257 --> 00:05:20,337 Speaker 1: bunch of missiles in retaliation out People have worried about this, 84 00:05:20,857 --> 00:05:22,297 Speaker 1: but you know, they said that about that. You know, 85 00:05:22,337 --> 00:05:25,057 Speaker 1: Trump was very clear too. Trump said, these are the 86 00:05:25,057 --> 00:05:27,577 Speaker 1: claims they made about the nuclear program and it turned 87 00:05:27,577 --> 00:05:30,497 Speaker 1: out not to be true, meaning that we struck their 88 00:05:30,577 --> 00:05:34,577 Speaker 1: nuclear sites and they did not rain down holy hell 89 00:05:34,697 --> 00:05:35,497 Speaker 1: fire upon us. 90 00:05:35,577 --> 00:05:36,657 Speaker 2: They were not able to. 91 00:05:38,217 --> 00:05:43,897 Speaker 1: Take out massive US military infrastructure or cause severe casualties 92 00:05:43,897 --> 00:05:45,897 Speaker 1: for US, So why would they be able to do 93 00:05:45,897 --> 00:05:46,497 Speaker 1: that this time? 94 00:05:47,337 --> 00:05:47,657 Speaker 2: Now? 95 00:05:47,737 --> 00:05:51,617 Speaker 1: The argument would be that this is the survival of 96 00:05:51,657 --> 00:05:54,297 Speaker 1: the Iranian regime at stake, and so they will lash 97 00:05:54,337 --> 00:05:59,177 Speaker 1: out in ways far beyond what we have seen thus far. Maybe, 98 00:05:59,857 --> 00:06:03,257 Speaker 1: But keep in mind, if we, let's say, strike some 99 00:06:03,297 --> 00:06:09,217 Speaker 1: strategic targets inside of Iran and just provide further support, 100 00:06:09,257 --> 00:06:11,697 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things we can do. Some of 101 00:06:11,737 --> 00:06:14,137 Speaker 1: it we would be talking about publicly. Some of it 102 00:06:14,137 --> 00:06:19,097 Speaker 1: would be of the covert variety. But if we did 103 00:06:19,137 --> 00:06:22,737 Speaker 1: do that kind of stuff, if we did take those 104 00:06:22,817 --> 00:06:27,977 Speaker 1: kinds of actions, the Iranians responding by trying to blow 105 00:06:28,057 --> 00:06:31,457 Speaker 1: up a lot of Americans, we have a much bigger, 106 00:06:31,497 --> 00:06:32,577 Speaker 1: better military than they do. 107 00:06:33,617 --> 00:06:34,577 Speaker 2: We know where they are. 108 00:06:35,577 --> 00:06:39,257 Speaker 1: We can own the sky in a matter of hours 109 00:06:39,937 --> 00:06:43,337 Speaker 1: over Iran if we want to. The Israelis are certainly 110 00:06:43,457 --> 00:06:45,977 Speaker 1: certainly willing to help out with whatever we are going 111 00:06:46,017 --> 00:06:49,657 Speaker 1: to need in terms of intelligence, air strikes, whatever it is. 112 00:06:50,537 --> 00:06:54,497 Speaker 2: So what exactly is the is the fear. 113 00:06:54,937 --> 00:06:57,297 Speaker 1: I understand the fear of the concern again spoke with 114 00:06:57,377 --> 00:06:59,017 Speaker 1: us on radio that we don't want to be in 115 00:06:59,057 --> 00:07:02,177 Speaker 1: a nation building exercise. I don't even think that's part 116 00:07:02,177 --> 00:07:05,017 Speaker 1: of the part of the conversation here. In fact, I 117 00:07:05,057 --> 00:07:07,497 Speaker 1: think that the Iranian regime is so ugly and so 118 00:07:07,737 --> 00:07:11,617 Speaker 1: vile and so evil that the notion of something worse 119 00:07:12,857 --> 00:07:18,017 Speaker 1: taking over is it's hard to fathom. I think somebody 120 00:07:18,097 --> 00:07:23,297 Speaker 1: within that existing mellocracy taking over. If you know, the 121 00:07:23,337 --> 00:07:26,537 Speaker 1: head of the IRGC currently or someone like that, who's 122 00:07:26,617 --> 00:07:30,137 Speaker 1: already a part of this thing, steps up and becomes 123 00:07:30,137 --> 00:07:32,657 Speaker 1: the day factor, well yeah, then it's just a perpetuation 124 00:07:32,697 --> 00:07:35,097 Speaker 1: of what we've already had. But if you truly have 125 00:07:35,177 --> 00:07:38,457 Speaker 1: a new regime, new power players, new people making decisions 126 00:07:39,057 --> 00:07:41,577 Speaker 1: in Iran, I don't see how it could be worse 127 00:07:41,697 --> 00:07:44,457 Speaker 1: really than what we have had up to this point. 128 00:07:44,937 --> 00:07:47,417 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's a realistic. Of course, it could. 129 00:07:47,577 --> 00:07:49,897 Speaker 1: Something can always be worse. I don't think that's a 130 00:07:49,937 --> 00:07:54,337 Speaker 1: realistic concern. So I wouldn't put that. I wouldn't waive 131 00:07:54,417 --> 00:07:58,777 Speaker 1: at against the benefits of trying to help these Remember 132 00:07:58,817 --> 00:08:01,577 Speaker 1: these protesters, really they're not just protesters, I mean they 133 00:08:01,857 --> 00:08:04,017 Speaker 1: they are calling for the end of the Iranian regime, 134 00:08:04,017 --> 00:08:06,257 Speaker 1: which they should. And this is not the first time 135 00:08:06,297 --> 00:08:09,057 Speaker 1: this has happened. Back in two thousand and nine, the 136 00:08:09,057 --> 00:08:13,377 Speaker 1: Green Revolution and the Obama administration did nothing. 137 00:08:13,857 --> 00:08:16,377 Speaker 2: Was completely useless and. 138 00:08:16,257 --> 00:08:19,097 Speaker 1: Not a surprise, but they were really, if anything, I think, 139 00:08:19,177 --> 00:08:21,617 Speaker 1: unhelpful because the Iranian people would have expected more. 140 00:08:21,657 --> 00:08:22,857 Speaker 2: But Obama was president. 141 00:08:23,217 --> 00:08:25,497 Speaker 1: Well Trump is president this time around, and that could 142 00:08:25,537 --> 00:08:28,937 Speaker 1: mean things are very very different in the end. Remember 143 00:08:29,417 --> 00:08:31,297 Speaker 1: how many years have we been talking about the nuclear 144 00:08:31,297 --> 00:08:33,417 Speaker 1: facilities and are we going to strike them? Should we 145 00:08:33,417 --> 00:08:35,537 Speaker 1: strike them? Is isually going to strike them? Trump did it. 146 00:08:36,537 --> 00:08:38,177 Speaker 1: I was in the Oval Office with the President the 147 00:08:38,257 --> 00:08:39,937 Speaker 1: day he did it. As it turned out, so it 148 00:08:40,057 --> 00:08:44,097 Speaker 1: was clay. It's a very historic day. And the Irunian 149 00:08:44,137 --> 00:08:47,417 Speaker 1: response was essentially nothing. So they had been working for 150 00:08:47,497 --> 00:08:50,857 Speaker 1: all these years, all these decades toward a nuclear capability. 151 00:08:51,337 --> 00:08:55,297 Speaker 1: It was blown up and by mostly by the Israelis, 152 00:08:55,337 --> 00:08:57,137 Speaker 1: but we also came in to finish it off with 153 00:08:57,177 --> 00:09:00,297 Speaker 1: the Bunker Buster, and the Iranians really didn't do anything 154 00:09:00,337 --> 00:09:05,177 Speaker 1: in response. I don't think we should overestimate or you 155 00:09:05,257 --> 00:09:07,497 Speaker 1: never want to underestimate your opponent, sure, but we also 156 00:09:07,497 --> 00:09:12,137 Speaker 1: shouldn't overestimate your opponents. Score I think there's very little 157 00:09:12,177 --> 00:09:16,537 Speaker 1: that Iran could do. Now, could they activate some Hesibala, 158 00:09:16,617 --> 00:09:24,337 Speaker 1: sell some IRGC KULDS force unit somewhere and have them, 159 00:09:25,457 --> 00:09:27,017 Speaker 1: you know, kill a bunch of innocent people. Yeah, of 160 00:09:27,057 --> 00:09:30,337 Speaker 1: course that's always a risk, but really any country could 161 00:09:30,337 --> 00:09:32,537 Speaker 1: do that if they chose to do that, and if 162 00:09:32,537 --> 00:09:34,417 Speaker 1: we trace that back to Iran, I mean, now we're 163 00:09:34,457 --> 00:09:36,417 Speaker 1: just going to go on a hunting expedition. 164 00:09:35,977 --> 00:09:38,617 Speaker 2: And blow up all of the leadership of the. 165 00:09:38,537 --> 00:09:41,817 Speaker 1: Iranian regime in their homes and in their buildings and 166 00:09:41,857 --> 00:09:46,297 Speaker 1: their fortresses, whatever they've got. If they do something like that, 167 00:09:46,337 --> 00:09:51,017 Speaker 1: we're just going to treat them like al Qaeda. So again, 168 00:09:51,297 --> 00:09:55,297 Speaker 1: is that the direction they want to go in? I 169 00:09:55,537 --> 00:09:58,537 Speaker 1: think it's very very unlikely. 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They deserve a better life than what they've 210 00:11:58,097 --> 00:12:01,817 Speaker 1: been given by the Islamo fascist maniacs who have been 211 00:12:01,857 --> 00:12:07,057 Speaker 1: running their country for decades and ruining a historically great 212 00:12:07,097 --> 00:12:11,857 Speaker 1: and proud people. The Persian people, the Kourds who live 213 00:12:11,857 --> 00:12:13,817 Speaker 1: in or on there's many different groups, these Ais, there's 214 00:12:13,817 --> 00:12:17,217 Speaker 1: all these different but in that region, the Persians are 215 00:12:17,217 --> 00:12:19,497 Speaker 1: the ones that people mostly think of and Farsie speaking 216 00:12:20,857 --> 00:12:24,417 Speaker 1: Farsie speaking Iranians, and they deserve something better than what 217 00:12:24,457 --> 00:12:26,217 Speaker 1: they have, and I sincerely hope that they're able to 218 00:12:26,257 --> 00:12:29,217 Speaker 1: get it, and that would be a sight of true 219 00:12:29,857 --> 00:12:33,137 Speaker 1: joy and it would be exhilarating, I think. And of 220 00:12:33,177 --> 00:12:35,817 Speaker 1: course our media doesn't want it to happen because Trump 221 00:12:35,857 --> 00:12:37,577 Speaker 1: would get credit for it, so they're hoping that it 222 00:12:37,577 --> 00:12:40,897 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. All the Democrat aligned media, all the people 223 00:12:40,897 --> 00:12:43,137 Speaker 1: who want Gavin Newsom or whomever to be the next president, 224 00:12:44,017 --> 00:12:47,777 Speaker 1: they are rooting against this, which is grotesque and pathetic 225 00:12:47,817 --> 00:12:51,577 Speaker 1: but true. We're rooting for the Iranian people, whether Trump 226 00:12:51,657 --> 00:12:52,337 Speaker 1: does something or not. 227 00:12:52,377 --> 00:12:55,897 Speaker 2: I hope that the Mullas fall shields high