1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: When Donald J. Trump began his campaign for president, he 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: said that people coming into the United States from Mexico 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: were quote bringing drugs, They're bringing crime, their rapists, and 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: some I assume are good people unquote. He also said 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: that as president, he would build a wall along the 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: border with Mexico and that he would get Mexico to 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: pay for it. He first called for a bandoned immigration 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: by Muslims, then called for a suspension of immigration from 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: countries that sponsored terrorism and extreme vetting of immigrants to 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: the United States. Throughout the race, undocumented immigration remained a 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: central theme of his candidacy, and he discussed it during 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: the third presidential debate. One of my first acts will 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: be to get all of the drug lords, all of 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: the bad ones. We have some bad, bad people in 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: this country that have to go out. We're gonna get 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: them out. We're going to secure the border, and once 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: the border is secured, at a later date will make 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: a determination as to the rest. But we have some 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: bad ombres here and we're gonna get him out. Today 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: we're going to be discussing what policies President elect Trump 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: is likely to pursue on immigration issues. After January twenty 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: when he is sworn in. Our guests are Harland York, 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: an immigration law expert who is the founding partner of 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Herland York and Associates. And Stephen Lylegomsky, Professor emeritus at 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: Washington University Law School, who was senior counsel to the 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Welcome to both of you, Stephen, 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Why don't we start out by talking about what we 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: can expect President elect Trump to do immediately upon taking 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: office about immigration. Well, thank you for having me on. 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: One of the first things that I would predict he's 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: going to do, because he pled to do this during 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: the campaign, as one of the logistically easiest things to 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: do is issue a memo or have the Homeland Security 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Secretary issue a memo formerly resending the dock of program 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: the docer programs to one in which people who were 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: brought here as young children, had who have lived here 37 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: several years and who passed various back ground screening checks 38 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: and so on, would be very low priorities for removal 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: and would be permitted to work during the time that 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: the low priorities are still in effect. So he could 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: just issue a memo revoking data. One tricky issue if 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: he does that is what happens to the people who 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: currently hold it. It's one thing to say we won't 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: issue any further grants of dacca. But if he seeks 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: to withdraw the work permise of the people who already 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: have it, uh, there's a very complicated procedure for doing so. 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: The regulations say you have to send an individual notice 48 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: to each of what would be more than seven hundred 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: thousand people. You have to give them reasons, you have 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: to give them fifteen days in which to respond. And 51 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: even if you do all that and formally revoke it, 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: collecting these pieces of paper that provide optimization to work 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: as another matter, and that would be very, very difficult. 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: My guests would be he's going to do this, but 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: allow those who currently have data to continue to enjoy 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: it for until they expire on their own, which would 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: be at most two years from now. Carlan, you have 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: have an immigration law prid this in New Jersey. UM, 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm interested to know both whether you agree with what 60 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Stephen just said about his expect expectation and also what 61 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: just what you've heard from your clients and perspective clients 62 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: over the last few days. I understand you've you've heard 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: from a lot of them. Sure, thanks very much for 64 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: having me. Yeah, I think it's reasonable to conclude that 65 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: what Stephen just said is foreseeable. I think we all 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: knew as immigration advocates in the United States that the 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: DACA program could see an end. However, when the DACA 68 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: program started in I cautioned everyone who we personally represented 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: in that process. In my firm, which as you say, 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: works out of New Jersey but handles cases all over 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: the US, we let our DACA recipients know that this 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: was not a permanent program. And there are many many 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: programs historically like the DACA program, that do have an 74 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: end date insight, sometimes it's not firm. These programs do 75 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: come and go under all presidencies. And regarding your other question, 76 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: is far as what we've actually hurt from our clients. Yeah, 77 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: there has obviously been a bit of heightened anxiety for 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: a portion of immigrants in the United States, and we're 79 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: certainly hearing that. However, I have been reminding everyone of 80 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the following. Twenty years ago, when I was a young 81 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: immigration lawyer starting out, Bill Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Reform an Immigrant Responsibility Act on September thirty and all 83 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: of that periods veteran immigration attorneys who I spoke with 84 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: as a relatively new lawyer, we're telling me it was 85 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: the end of the world. All immigration law was being eviscerated. 86 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: Courts were being stripped at their discretionary powers to hear cases. 87 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: The aggravated felony definitions were widely expanded to three and 88 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: ten year bars were placed into the law, and so 89 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: on and so forth. And we've been suffering with the 90 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: effects of all of those rules that became law in 91 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: April of for the better part of two decades. And 92 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: we've been fighting as an organization in the American Immigration 93 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Layers Association, thousands of us have been dealing with that reality. 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: And one final thought is that when George Bush left office, 95 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: the pending number of cases nationally in the deportation context 96 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: and the immigration courts was that about a hundred and 97 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: eighty six thousand. Under Barack Obama, it's tripled to right 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: now five one plus thousands. So well, it's not just 99 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: it's not just the you know what, we're what the 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: country is going to do about people who are here 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: undocumented that President electrump has been talking about. He's also 102 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: sketched out a number of things about how he's going 103 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: to stop illegal undocumented immigrants from coming into the country, Steve. 104 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: The most prominent of these, of course, is the wall. 105 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: How likely is it he's actually going to be able 106 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: to build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it? Well, 107 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: I think both are extremely unlikely, and by the way, 108 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: I agree with everything that hardam I just said extremely well. Um. 109 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: Two reasons for that. One is that it would be 110 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: prohibitively expensive. Despite Mr Tom's claims, all the empirical estimates 111 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: put the number somewhere between fifteen and forty two billion 112 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: dollars just to construct the wall initially, and that doesn't 113 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: take account of us as sums of money that would 114 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: be be required for annual upkeep. Trump has said he 115 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: wants the wall to be a thousand miles long and 116 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: high and made a solid concrete, which is unrealistic. Congress 117 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: will never fund uh that kind of wall, and Mexico 118 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: certainly won't pay for it. If I had to make 119 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: a guess, it would be that President Trump, in order 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: to say face, might be able to strike some type 121 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: of deal. Is Congressional Republican leaders whereby they agree to 122 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: some modest extension of the existing border fence. Um, but 123 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to imagine anything more drastic than that, Harlan. 124 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: How about the Donald Trump's comments about banning Muslims from 125 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: coming in the country. He's he's modified that, But is 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: that something that uh uh, You know, Muslims who are 127 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: either in the country or want to come in the country, 128 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: or are people who come from a heavily Islamic countries 129 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: should be legitimately worried about. Look, I will again go 130 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: back to reality and the history of my time twenty 131 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: years in this practice. In the aftermath the nine eleven attacks, 132 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: the government created, of course, the Department of Homeland Security, 133 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: and one of its first measures, even before DHS had 134 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: its formal let's say, initiatives placed, was the Special Registration Program, 135 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: where nationals in four different enumerated groups were given notice nations. 136 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: During the presidential campaign, Donald J. Trump promised to overhaul 137 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: the nation's approach to immigration and take a hard line 138 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: on undocumented immigrants and also on people seeking to come 139 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: into the country. He uh promised that he would um 140 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: first suspend immigration of Muslims, then spoke about suspending immigration 141 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: from countries that sponsored terrorism, then said he was going 142 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: to engage an extreme vetting of all immigrants where his 143 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: administration would We're talking about what to expect from the 144 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: president elect when he takes office with immigration lawyer Harlan 145 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: York and Professor Stephen Lagomsky of Washington University Law School. Harlan, 146 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about what realistic to expect in terms of, uh, 147 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: the suspension of the possible suspension of immigration from countries 148 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: that are predominantly Muslim, What do you think is going 149 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: to happen? As I was starting to say, um, you know, 150 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: we had a program like that already in the aftermath 151 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: of nine eleven. It was called Special Registration, and at 152 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: that point in time, in September of O two, the 153 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: Bush administration put in place a program that grouped I 154 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: think I said twenty six before the commercial breaks, actually 155 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: twenty five countries back then nationals from those countries, twenty 156 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: four of which were predominantly Muslim countries. And the registration 157 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: program went on for many years and mails over the 158 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: age of sixteen were required to register with immigration. I 159 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: remember taking down people, taking people that is, down to 160 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: the immigration buildings um to register them. And then the 161 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: program essentially was suspended because the government, I guess, determined 162 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: that it wasn't really effective in terms of the I 163 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: guess vetting, if you will, to use the word that 164 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Mr Trump has used. So it's nothing new so far 165 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: if I look back on the last fifteen or sixteen 166 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: months of his campaign. UM, I note that a journalist 167 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: pointed out recently, and I think I put this on 168 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: my Twitter that Mr said many things, like all political 169 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: candidates have said that contradict one another. I just don't 170 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: know in reality when you look at recent history and 171 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: you look at what they're talking about doing. People who 172 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: think about vetting, if you will, well, securing the homeland 173 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: we all would agree is a very important thing. That's 174 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: why we have a Department of Homeland Security. At the 175 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: same time, we've had recent historical examples of types of 176 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: things like this already in place, and whether or not 177 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: they're successful or not is subject to controversy on or debate. Stephen, 178 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: We're going to have a Republican president and a Republican Congress. Uh. 179 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Does that improve the prospects for some sort of comprehensive legislation? Uh? 180 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: And if so, what will that look like? Yeah, that's 181 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: a great question. Um, I tend to think it might 182 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: improve the chance that some type of comprehensive bill um 183 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: simply because so much of the opposition of the previous 184 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: bill came from Republicans who are bent on forting just 185 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: about anything that President Obama was supporting. They hopefully will 186 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: be more supportive of a good comprehensive bill if President 187 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: Trump introduces it. My guess is it would somewhat follow 188 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: the lines of the bill of the Senate pass in thirteen, 189 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: which had three main pillars to it. One was massive 190 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: increases in both border and interior enforcement. A second big 191 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: pillar was a pass to permanent residents status an ultimately 192 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: citizenship for a large chunk of the current undocumented population. 193 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: And then the third main pillar was reform of the 194 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: criteria for legal immigration to the US. The one thing 195 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: that I can imagine having to give up if the 196 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: bills introduced this time, uh, it concerns timing. There are 197 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: many Republicans who were saying we might be able to 198 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: consider legalization down the past if we can first quote 199 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: secure the border. That to me is very problematic because 200 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: the boarder will never be one secure. He will never 201 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: be able to prevent people from answering illegally or from 202 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: overstaying visas UH. And if legalization is conditioned on that happening, 203 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: that it would never happen to It would be hard 204 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: to define when that would take effect, but it is 205 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: possible that in the new political environments some pass will 206 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: be found. Can also just comment on the previous questions, 207 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: I thought hardly answered it very well. A couple of 208 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: points on the Muslim ban UM. From a purely political standpoint, 209 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: I think UH President of Left Trump is going to 210 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: have to do something in order to avoid being accused 211 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: of preaching his campaign promises. UM. I don't think he 212 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: will issue an order that explicitly bans Muslims by name. 213 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: The reason I don't think that is that even though 214 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: there is a provision of the statue which gives the 215 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: President of the power to ban any class of aliens 216 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: or class of aliens have the way it's word it, 217 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: whenever he finds that their admission would be detrimental to 218 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: the interests of the U S. I know that sounds 219 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: a very broad grant of power, But if the president 220 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: were to try to do that on the basis of religion, 221 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: in particular to single out of particular religion, then a 222 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: serious constitutional question would be raised. And so rather than 223 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: bar Muslims, what I could imagine him doing a saying 224 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: for immigration from the following countries, and then they could 225 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: be a list. We will uh, we will increase the 226 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: number of security checks, although our practical matter, I don't 227 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: know what he could add to the many checks we 228 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: already have. Thank you to Professor Stephen Lonomsky of Washington 229 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: University Law School and immigration law expert Harlan Yorke coming up. 230 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: President elect Trunk, also besides immigration, talked about prosecuting Hillary 231 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: Clinton about her use of a private email server. Should 232 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: President Obama pardon her to prevent prosecution. This is Bloomberg