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Speaker 1: Sabers home game tonight. Sabers home today against Arizona tonight

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Speaker 1: went to a the pre screening at seven one six,

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Speaker 1: Food and Sport. Thurman Thomas A Football Life. If you

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Speaker 1: the deal was they have it on U in seven

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Speaker 1: simple question. Why is Josh Allen running so much so often?

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Speaker 1: so much? Give us a call? Eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: five fifty What do you think? Ste Where would you vote?

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Speaker 1: I'm hesitant to put it all on the offensive line

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Speaker 1: because he's a rookie, and I have seen him stand

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Speaker 1: back there and make some pretty good throws. Although there's

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Speaker 1: some throw most of the throws he makes aren't really

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Speaker 1: requiring him to come off and read a defense and

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Speaker 1: move his eyes. It's going out and hitting the deep

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Speaker 1: comeback where it's all right there in front of him.

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Speaker 1: But there's no question that he doesn't have the time

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Speaker 1: in the pocket to stand back there and scan the

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Speaker 1: field when it's right there in front of him. He

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Speaker 1: seems to make the throw, but there are also times

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Speaker 1: when he breaks and I think one thing I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see him do better. If this is the way

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Speaker 1: this offense is going to run this part of the season,

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Speaker 1: what I'd like to see is when he takes off,

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Speaker 1: don't take off down the field. Just take off to

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Speaker 1: the sideline, run around a little bit, keep your eyes

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Speaker 1: down the field, and try and make the throw that

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Speaker 1: you missed in Miami in the bat in the end

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Speaker 1: zone to Charles Clay. Make more throws like that rather

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Speaker 1: than running down getting a twenty five yard game running

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Speaker 1: out of bounds. I'd rather see him make the throw

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Speaker 1: than make the run. Even if the runs have been productive,

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Speaker 1: I get that, and they're pretty exciting, and they've been

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Speaker 1: important in wins and important in keeping him on the field.

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Speaker 1: But I think it puts more stress on the defense

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Speaker 1: when he makes those throws, and he got an even

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Speaker 1: better chance and more more opportunities out there because you've

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Speaker 1: got three guys out there you can pick from. So

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him. And I've seen guys go

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and be consistently good as quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: doing that, and then once they do that enough, they

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Speaker 1: start to read more defenses. Then they stay in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to move more, their offensive line comes together,

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Speaker 1: and they become a better quarterback because of that. Because

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Speaker 1: if you pull it down and run, you know, you

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Speaker 1: don't look, and you don't get to know your receivers.

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Speaker 1: You just don't get to throw it as much. I

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Speaker 1: want to see him throw it more. He has to

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Speaker 1: be coached, and I'm sure he is being coached, and

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Speaker 1: he has to make up his mind, I believe, to

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Speaker 1: hang in there, to be a little more patient, to

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Speaker 1: not bail when it looks like stuff's collapsing up front

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Speaker 1: in front of him, right, And I think we're saying

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Speaker 1: the same thing here. I'm sure he's being told that

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're looking at video and showing him that, look,

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Speaker 1: you had an extra fifth of a second here, you

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Speaker 1: could have hung in there and maybe make a play

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Speaker 1: down field. He has to. I'm sure he's getting in

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Speaker 1: that direction, and he's just got to commit to doing that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a bit more. I'm not there yet, because

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. That's fine if he stands in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's take it. This guy's been running around like

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Speaker 1: a jack rabbit for for a month now that he

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Speaker 1: came back, when he got hurt, he was standing in

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Speaker 1: the pocket. Go on, what are you saying, Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: not I don't want him to stand back there and

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Speaker 1: get somebody rolled up on his leg, and I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have him out in space away from all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I'd like I just said, I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have him moving away from all that, keeping his eyes

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Speaker 1: down the field, rather than run it. Just don't take

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Speaker 1: a hit stand in the pocket. The longer you stand there,

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Speaker 1: the more guys are gonna take shots at You're you're

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Speaker 1: not a moving target, You're easier to hit. And it's

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Speaker 1: just as dangerous to me standing in the pocket with

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Speaker 1: guys clamping in on you and and closing in on

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Speaker 1: you as it is, I think you're more in danger

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Speaker 1: there than you are out running in space where you

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Speaker 1: can slide. I'm not advocating that he becomes a human

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Speaker 1: pinata and stay back there and take wax, but I

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Speaker 1: do think he can train himself, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: where they're at right now. Train himself to wait a

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Speaker 1: little bit longer, not just stand there like the statue,

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Speaker 1: slide move a little bit, but wait a little bit

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Speaker 1: longer to find somebody open downfield, and to maybe force

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Speaker 1: it opened to somebody that might be a little bit

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Speaker 1: open downfield. Yeah. I think that's kind of the progression

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Speaker 1: they'd like him to make. And I'm not finding fault

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Speaker 1: by the way. I love the way the guy has played,

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Speaker 1: especially since he's come back to the lineup the last

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Speaker 1: three games. I regret the fact that he is the

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Speaker 1: best offensive weapon they have. That's a function of not

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Speaker 1: having a good offensive line and not having a running

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Speaker 1: game he can depend on. I mean, let's remember the

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Speaker 1: template for this season was supposed to be run the ball. Well,

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Speaker 1: don't put all this pressure on Josh Allen. They can't

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Speaker 1: even they can't really on that anymore. That doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: yet this season. Like everything we talk about with him,

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Speaker 1: it's all a balance. Yeah, you know, run just enough.

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Speaker 1: And Sean McDermott says this every time he's asked. Every

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Speaker 1: time you have a quarterback who can run, it's always

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Speaker 1: the same question. Is he running two much? Is he

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Speaker 1: running right enough, not enough? Is he running in the

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Speaker 1: right spots? Is he finishing the runs the right way?

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Speaker 1: Is he picking his spots at the right time or

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Speaker 1: is he leaving too early? It's all of this balance

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Speaker 1: that you're always going to ask with a guy who

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Speaker 1: can really get it done with his legs. And it's

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Speaker 1: always gonna be too that the offensive line is gonna

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Speaker 1: have this guy they're blocking for. That changes their mindset

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Speaker 1: a little bit when they're getting back there. They they're

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Speaker 1: not always gonna know where he is. For a guy

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Speaker 1: like Philip Rivers, you know, like the old guy's Dan Fouts,

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Speaker 1: like guys like Ben Roethlisberger these days, you know, all

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Speaker 1: these Eli Manning, you know where he's gonna be. You

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Speaker 1: don't always know where Josh is going to be. And

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Speaker 1: that's a problem for the offensive line as well. It

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Speaker 1: will be actually going forward even when they improve this

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Speaker 1: offensive line. As his career goes on, it's always going

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Speaker 1: to be an issue for his offensive line to find him,

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Speaker 1: to kind of know where he is until he trains

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Speaker 1: them about where he's gonna be. What do you think

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Speaker 1: he is? Josh running so much? What do you think

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Speaker 1: of it? Eight three fifty two three eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty on the line. We've got Tom

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Speaker 1: in West Seneca. Go ahead, Tom, Welcome to the show,

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Speaker 1: John Steve, thanks for having me. I appreciate you. Sure

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Speaker 1: running so much? That's a fair question. If the pocket

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Speaker 1: is collapsing, every time the man tries to remain in

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Speaker 1: the pocket, he must run for his life. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a great runner. He might he's got

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Speaker 1: a run when there's nobody open. And I you had

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Speaker 1: a mister Kaselle was out last week. Didn't quite like

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Speaker 1: his critique of Josh Ellen. He praised him about some things,

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Speaker 1: but then he ended up by saying, Josh Allen has

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Speaker 1: poor field vision, and I totally disagree with that. He

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Speaker 1: when he comes out of the pocket, he's he'll throw

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Speaker 1: it out of bounds if he hasn't ever receiver opened,

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Speaker 1: or he'll try to hit somebody and our offensive line,

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Speaker 1: we clearly need some help there. Hope that will be coming.

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Speaker 1: But I disagree with mister Cosseell. He was saying that

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Speaker 1: it can't be it can't be taught. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen has good field vision. It will get a

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Speaker 1: little better offensive line, we can get our running game

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Speaker 1: gone with McCoy Sean McCoy, I think that everything's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fine, all right, Tom, You know, I do think

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Speaker 1: Greg Coseell and others are onto something and it's not

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Speaker 1: a fault in Josh Allen. He didn't have to do

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Speaker 1: that at Wyoming. Right, he didn't play at this level

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Speaker 1: at Wyoming. He's got enormous physical ability, big arm, athleticism, speed,

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Speaker 1: but he is learning how to play the position, which

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Speaker 1: includes field vision, recognizing what he's seeing, recognizing what the

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Speaker 1: defense is showing him, and what the options might be downfield.

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Speaker 1: I do think he's got a ways to go on that,

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Speaker 1: and I love the fact that he's playing every week

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Speaker 1: and getting a little bit better at it. Presumably he

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Speaker 1: does have a long way to go, and nobody's denying that.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's some things that Greg Coseell. You

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Speaker 1: talk about, Greg Coseell and you disagree with him, that's

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Speaker 1: which is fine. I think there are things he's got

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Speaker 1: to learn and there are some things that Greg Coseell says,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can teach this and you cannot teach that.

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Speaker 1: That remains to be seen with Josh Allen. One of

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Speaker 1: the things about him coming out, he's and we've seen

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Speaker 1: it here. He's a sharp guy, really intelligent, works hard.

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Speaker 1: He tested how really intelligent on all the tests that

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Speaker 1: they give these guys. And he's working really hard. You

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Speaker 1: put hard work with intelligence and commitment, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that the finished product, if it goes on the trajectory

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Speaker 1: it's on, it's going to turn out good. But they

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Speaker 1: he does have a long way to go. Yep, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk more about this. Why does Josh Allen run

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Speaker 1: so much? Is as good as as bad as he is,

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Speaker 1: he going to strike the right balance of running the football.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. We got lines open

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Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty and twel three one eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. We've got the Twitter

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Speaker 1: Paul on that very topic. We'd love to hear your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on it. Well, go ahead, Yeah, I've got some

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Speaker 1: some already people are chiming in. Are we gonna take Oh? I,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break, newsw Oh gosh, I was

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Speaker 1: on a roll allright here, save the roll. We'll take

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Speaker 1: a break because we want to head out to Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown and practice in just a moment, So come on

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Speaker 1: back for that. One Bill's Live presented by a lot

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Speaker 1: of Health from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. We call the show One Bill's Live. Where

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's practice right on the other side of the

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Speaker 1: wall here from our studio, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in

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Speaker 1: here and inside the AFRO Sports Training Center, Thursday practice

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Speaker 1: is underway. Our man, Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills dot Com standing by to report on practice for us. Chris,

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Speaker 1: it'll be a little bit different than yesterday, right, A

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Speaker 1: little bit more intense, a little more up tempo than

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Speaker 1: yesterday's kind of glorified walkthroughs that would you anticipate today, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Helmets are on, but still you know,

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Speaker 1: no shells or pads. But yeah, tempo is already noticeably

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Speaker 1: higher than it was yesterday, which was basically a glorified

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Speaker 1: walk through. Ironically enough, maybe it's not ironic, but coincidentally enough,

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Speaker 1: the Lions did the same thing yesterday. They also had

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Speaker 1: to walk through practice, So I get the sense that

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Speaker 1: You try to take the hits off the body as

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Speaker 1: you get into the dog days of the season, if

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Speaker 1: you will. The noteworthy thing is Lashawn McCoy is dressed

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Speaker 1: for practice today and participating. I was watching him through

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Speaker 1: the warmups and he wasn't going full speed. Even in

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Speaker 1: the warmups. You know, they do these high kicking drills,

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Speaker 1: the hamstring early before he's even warm. But he's going

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Speaker 1: through these little individual drills on the handoff stuff with

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks right now that I'm watching, So we'll keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on it. I would anticipate that, you know,

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, we'll find out he was limited today. But

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Speaker 1: participating is a good sign. You know. You're right, Chris,

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Speaker 1: that is that was coincidence and not irony. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you made that distinction. Seriously, you know how you remember

641
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Speaker 1: when I was in your office, I would say it's

642
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Speaker 1: a it's a big pet PV or yes it is.

643
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Speaker 1: The website is an ironic at any rate. On the

644
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Speaker 1: topic of yesterday's practice, my partner out here, Steve Tasker,

645
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Speaker 1: made a good point. Do you think they maybe use

646
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Speaker 1: some of the telemetry, some of the you know, metrics

647
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Speaker 1: that they have on practice participation and decided to kind

648
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Speaker 1: of take it easy yesterday based on the stuff they

649
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Speaker 1: get from the regular collection of data on a regular

650
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Speaker 1: and practice day. Yeah. Well, each player on the practice

651
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Speaker 1: field has a GPS device, Yeah, just on the back

652
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Speaker 1: behind their name plate on the jersey. Oftentimes, at the

653
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Speaker 1: end of practice, as they make their way to the

654
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Speaker 1: locker room, a lot of the members of the strength

655
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Speaker 1: and conditioning staff will reach in the player's jersey pull

656
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Speaker 1: it out so they can download all the information into

657
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Speaker 1: their system because they kind of plug in like battery

658
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Speaker 1: packs do in the GPS system that they have, which

659
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Speaker 1: basically covers not only the amount of distance that each

660
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Speaker 1: player covered in practice, but the level of intensity with

661
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Speaker 1: which they covered that distance, whether it was at a

662
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Speaker 1: full dead on sprint, whether they were jogging through it, walking, whatever,

663
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Speaker 1: the case might be, and yeah, they will back off

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Speaker 1: if they feel they're getting into that red territory which

665
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Speaker 1: increases the risk of injury. So I imagine that that. Yeah,

666
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Speaker 1: I mean, they spend a lot of money to have

667
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Speaker 1: that data, so I would anticipate that it did go

668
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Speaker 1: into some of the decision making with how practice was

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Speaker 1: going to be run this week. All right, so they're

670
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Speaker 1: taking it easy on these guys. What I want to

671
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: know is about depth charts, There any anything you're getting

672
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Speaker 1: out of the offensive line rotation, running back rotation obviously

673
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Speaker 1: with Lashawn being limited or whatever, anything that's going to

674
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Speaker 1: be noticeably different about this week's game against the Lions

675
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Speaker 1: and the lineup. Yeah, I mean I think there might

676
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Speaker 1: be a little bit more rotation at the guard spots

677
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Speaker 1: this week. Over these last two days, we've seen both

678
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Searles and the rookie I Bucker rotate in at

679
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Speaker 1: right and left guard respective with John Miller and with

680
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Speaker 1: why a Teller, who have been the two incumbent starters

681
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Speaker 1: I guess for lack of a better term. So it

682
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Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if those two guys at least rotate

683
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Speaker 1: in for series here and there and why not guys.

684
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Speaker 1: I mean, when you don't really and when you haven't

685
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Speaker 1: really had any consistency in terms of that unit establishing

686
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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. You can't really hurt yourself by

687
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Speaker 1: plugging a guy in, even from one series to the next,

688
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: because you can't really do any worse. So might as

689
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Speaker 1: well get an evaluation on some people. See if you

690
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Speaker 1: can find a better combination on one side of the

691
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Speaker 1: line or the other that might work better on given place.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, and you can help me with this, Chris,

693
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Speaker 1: if you when you think of these young guys getting

694
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Speaker 1: their chance on the offensive line, if there's one characteristic

695
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: they all seem to share, its size, isn't it it?

696
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking if Sean McDermott wanted to send out,

697
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Speaker 1: you know, a proposal, this is kind of what we're

698
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Speaker 1: looking for. He wants big giant offensive lineman. Right. The

699
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Speaker 1: athleticism maybe a secondary consideration, right, you agree? Disagree? I

700
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Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's hard to say because I think

701
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: they kind of fell into this maybe more than anything else.

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Speaker 1: They lost athleticism in the off season with Incognito and

703
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Speaker 1: Eric would going out the door. I have to believe

704
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: that Brian Dabele would love to run more screenplays than

705
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Speaker 1: they've been able to, and that requires mobility, and they

706
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Speaker 1: lost one of their most mobile alignment when Russ Bodine

707
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Speaker 1: went down with the broken leg a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean this, They don't have enough mobility and athleticism

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Speaker 1: with this group to really run a screenplay. Fantro was asking,

710
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Speaker 1: why don't we run more screens take the pressure off

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and some of the stuff that you know,

712
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Speaker 1: the fire he's coming under in the pocket run a screenplay.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they can execute a screenplay effectively

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Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. The only and that's why you

715
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Speaker 1: don't see it, you know, that's those are how many

716
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Speaker 1: pages in Brian Dable's playbook that you just gotta rip

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Speaker 1: out for the rest of this season because you don't

718
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Speaker 1: have anybody that can execute it. Yeah, the reason that reason.

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Speaker 1: He sees a lot of the screens they run, all

720
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Speaker 1: those quick screens where they just stand up and throw

721
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Speaker 1: it out there and let the let the receivers and

722
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Speaker 1: the tight ends block for each other, and used the

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Speaker 1: speed of Josh Allen's arm to throw it out there.

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Speaker 1: Of the what about ed running back? And well, forget

725
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: let's let's forget running back. Let's go to the other

726
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Speaker 1: side of the ball. I want to know what they're

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Speaker 1: doing with the absence of Matt Milano. I know it's

728
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Speaker 1: going to be linebacker by committee. We spoke to Tremaine

729
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Speaker 1: Edmonds yesterday, and it puts a little bit, just one

730
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Speaker 1: more degree of difficulty for the middle linebacker to make

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Speaker 1: sure the guy next to him is is up to snuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean yesterday we saw him mostly Corey Thompson out there,

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Speaker 1: uh in Milano's spot. Occasionally we saw Lorenzo. We did

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Speaker 1: not really see a whole lot of Dion Lacy yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But again, we're only talking about the media viewing portion

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Speaker 1: of practice, so I suppose he could have rotated in

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Speaker 1: at some point. I believe he's gonna be on your

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Speaker 1: show guys later today, so maybe you can ask him

739
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Speaker 1: directly if he was getting any reps in there, because

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Speaker 1: in in this portion of practice, the guy we've seen

741
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Speaker 1: the most over there as Corey Thompson, the recent practice

742
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: squad call up from just a week ago. Now, he's

743
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Speaker 1: been on the practice squad for the balance of the season.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like he's foreign to the Bill's defensive scheme.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Tremaine Edmonds is going to have to

746
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Speaker 1: make sure he's lined up in the right spot. Is

747
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Speaker 1: he going to be a three down guy and be

748
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Speaker 1: in there in the Nickel package? I don't know. I mean,

749
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Speaker 1: that might be where they have to employ Lorenzo, who

750
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Speaker 1: knows the defense better. But really, I think everyone would

751
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: agree Lorenzo is the best player for this defense when

752
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: he's up on the ball and on the line, not

753
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: off the ball like he was last year, where he

754
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: didn't have nearly the season he's having here in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about you and I talked about

756
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Speaker 1: this a little bit Monday, and Stephen I have talked

757
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Speaker 1: about it. They've lost a lot the last couple of games.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about losing Milano and a week ago

759
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Speaker 1: losing Karen Johnson. These are playmakers, these you know, and

760
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Speaker 1: they're number one defensive league, so obviously something's going well defensively,

761
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Speaker 1: and these are a couple of key cogs of what

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Speaker 1: they've been able to do through the first thirteen games

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Speaker 1: this season that are going on. Though, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you go back all the way to September. You think

765
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Speaker 1: about all the changes that have been made. I mean

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Speaker 1: Vante Davis up and quitting because he didn't feel like playing.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got Philip Gaines who got moved off

768
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Speaker 1: this roster for a couple of bad weeks with pass

769
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Speaker 1: interference penalties. I mean, those were two guys that were

770
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Speaker 1: expected to be. One of those two guys was expected

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Speaker 1: to be the starting corner opposite Tredavious White, and that

772
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: didn't pan out. And who do you have. You have

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Speaker 1: a practice squad kid Levi Wallace, who's done pretty well

774
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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, playing that spot right now

775
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: and holding it down. And then you know, you can

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Speaker 1: mention Arren Johnson, Matt Milano, all these guys who have

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Speaker 1: been lost to injury, and it's pretty remarkable that the

778
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Speaker 1: Bills have the figures that they do in the league rankings.

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Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball, talk to us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about you said Lorenzo might be the

781
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Speaker 1: guy who knows the defense best. How much goes into

782
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Speaker 1: the fact that you just want to get out there.

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Speaker 1: At least he will know what his responsibilities are. But

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Speaker 1: I think a guy like Corey Thompson. He's been on

785
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Speaker 1: the practice squad, he's been in the leap meeting. He

786
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Speaker 1: should know what he's doing out there. I mean all

787
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: these guys should, with the exception well, I don't know.

788
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Speaker 1: You tell me who the exception of that would be.

789
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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have been around for a while,

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Speaker 1: most of them. Well, the key here and I don't

791
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Speaker 1: need to tell you this, Steve. The key here for

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Speaker 1: coaches is can we trust him? And that has to

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Speaker 1: be put on display here in the course of the

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Speaker 1: practice week. You know, with the reps that they do get.

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Speaker 1: And if Corey Thompson is messing up assignments out here

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Speaker 1: in the practice setting, they sure as heck aren't going

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Speaker 1: to trust him in a game setting when the speed's

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Speaker 1: even faster and you have to think even quicker. So

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Speaker 1: this is the litmus test here this week in practice.

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Speaker 1: And if Corey Thompson is not mastering the assignments to

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Speaker 1: a degree where the coaching staff says he's gonna be

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00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: all right on Sunday, he's not going to play, or

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00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: maybe he only is out there for a package of

804
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: plays for the stuff they do believe he can handle.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of an evaluation period literally this week

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Speaker 1: in practice to determine who's the guy that's going to

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Speaker 1: get the most snaps in Mulano's position. Chris Brown, Bills

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Speaker 1: Insider Buffalo Bills dot Com, keeping an eye on the

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Speaker 1: early portions of today's Thursday practice inside the ant Pro

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Speaker 1: Sports Training Center. Hey, Chris, we didn't talk much about

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Speaker 1: Jason Crume yesterday, but he shows up as a full

812
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Speaker 1: participation in yesterday's practice after missing all of last week

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Speaker 1: with a groin injury, and you know, and an offense

814
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Speaker 1: that starred for playmaking options. He's a guy who might

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Speaker 1: have a role to play there, right if he's healthy

816
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: and ready to go. And it looks like he's heading

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Speaker 1: in that direction right Rested last week didn't play because

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Speaker 1: of the groin injury, and I mean, it looks like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine to go this week. So obviously

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Speaker 1: it was a minor strain of some kind that limited

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Speaker 1: him to some degree last week. So yeah, hopefully he

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Speaker 1: is good to go. It'll be interesting to see what

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Speaker 1: they do because they did only dress two tight ends

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks do mainly to injury, although

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00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: they left Logan Thomas inactive when he was healthy, I

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Speaker 1: believe for the Miami game when they had Chroom and Clay.

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Speaker 1: So do they go with two or three tight ends?

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Speaker 1: It's it's probably game plan related, knowing the struggles of

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Speaker 1: the running game. Do you have three tight ends dressed

830
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: so you can go heavy? But when they do go heavy,

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Speaker 1: it's usually a tackle that's lined up in that tackle

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Speaker 1: eligible spot as a second tight end up on the

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Speaker 1: line with Searle's usually coming on the field or someone else.

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Speaker 1: So my thinking is, unless the game plan is dramatically different,

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Speaker 1: it's probably just two of those guys this week. So

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Speaker 1: if you want to go back to Chroom, it's probably

837
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Speaker 1: Logan Thomas as the odd man out. Yeah, interesting too,

838
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Speaker 1: because you won't need the third tight end for pass protection.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Lions of ziggy Onza just went on

840
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: ir so their Lions pass rush will be depleted in

841
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: talent anyway. If not, you know they make they can

842
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: send as many guys as they want, but at least

843
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: you'll know the physical matchups are a little bit more

844
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Speaker 1: in your favor. Yeah, I mean they're pretty good. They're

845
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Speaker 1: a pretty good pass rushing group, though they haven't had

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Speaker 1: onsa for most of the year. He had just come

847
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: back from another injury, missed the middle portion of the season,

848
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Speaker 1: and uh, and they've done pretty well. I mean they're

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Speaker 1: fourth in the league and sack percentage. They have thirty

850
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Speaker 1: seven sacks on the season, and they blitz those linebackers

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Speaker 1: a lot. Uh. Those their two linebackers are among the

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00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: sack leaders on their squad. So those guys have been

853
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Speaker 1: cleaning up in the blitz package. So they've been effective

854
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Speaker 1: in that area. Chris. We should make mentioned too that

855
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Speaker 1: as we looked at the tight end group after full

856
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: practice yesterday, no sign today. It appears of Jason Krum,

857
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: So who knows that that'll be a post practice designation

858
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Speaker 1: as to what his status was today, I would think, huh, No,

859
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Speaker 1: I think he's over there. I think I think I

860
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Speaker 1: see him. Yeah, I believe I see him over there

861
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Speaker 1: right now. Okay, he's eighty unless my eyes are terrible,

862
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: so I think he's over there. All right. Most important

863
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: questions today, where's the kicker? Where's where's Well? I mean,

864
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: where's is he out there? Where's Waldo? You were gonna say, really, yeah,

865
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: he's over here over my shoulder. He's stretching out right now,

866
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: going through some different kinds of stretches that he does.

867
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: He's got his whole he's got his own routine over

868
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: you want to ask you doing his own thing, and

869
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: that's what That's what kickers usually do. They're kind off

870
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: by themselves and live in their own universe. He does.

871
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: He does his own thing all the time, every day.

872
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: That is unlike any kicker I've ever seen. I mean,

873
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: he does nothing else but set his plant food get

874
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, he just he has that walkthrough thing he

875
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: does more so than any kicker I've ever seen. And hey,

876
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: it's effective. I mean, he's been really good for the

877
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: team this year. But you're right, I mean, that's gonna

878
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: be something to watch. Yeah, I mean, we'll have to

879
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: ask coach after practice today, does speak to the media

880
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: after Thursday practices to see if Steven's even kicking at

881
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: any point during the portion of practice today. He did

882
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: not do anything yesterday as we know, so we'll have

883
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: to see if he actually got some attempts in or

884
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: even did some swing throughs. I don't know what you

885
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: do if you're not actually kicking the ball, dude, brownie

886
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: kind of what are they gonna What other option do

887
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: they have? If he doesn't kick on Sunday, what's gonna happen?

888
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what do they do? I mean, I don't

889
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: have anybody else to do, but yeah, they'd have to

890
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: add somebody, you know, at the end of the week. Right,

891
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: So they're not even there on the street. That hasn't

892
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: even been brought out of me. So they they're pretty

893
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: confident he's gonna be able to go. Yeah, I mean,

894
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: and that's what coach said yesterday. So I guess unless

895
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: there's some kind of major setback and you know, sciatica

896
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: flares up or something, I gotta imagine he's gonna be

897
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: fine on Sunday to kick. Hi Stephen. Last question for you,

898
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Speaker 1: Chris Brown. We haven't heard much. You talked much about

899
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: the Lions this week, and we were you and I

900
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: were talking, you know, in a meeting this morning about it.

901
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: I can't get my arms around this Lions team. I look,

902
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: there are only a game better than the Bills so

903
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: far this year. I was good, can't now you can't

904
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: shake him. They're only a game better than the Bills,

905
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: and they've had some good wins. But well, I don't

906
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: think they're that good a team. I mean, it's a

907
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: winnable game for Buffalo, but they still got to go

908
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: out there and do it right. Right. Uh, you know

909
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: in Detroit as we know as a team that has

910
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: struggled also with losses due to injury. I mean Marvin Jones,

911
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: their wide receivers on ire. They obviously traded away Golden

912
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: Tate to Philadelphia. They're running back Kerrie and Johnson's been

913
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: out for a few weeks now, so it's gonna be

914
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: two depleted units going against one another on Sunday. But yeah,

915
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: you gotta win a game. And you know, the thing is,

916
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: the Bills have largely outperformed their last two opponents on

917
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: the statue, except in the most important statistic, which was

918
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: points drives you crazy. Thanks Chris, appreciate it, Bernie, Chris Brown,

919
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills dot Com. He's right. We're

920
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna talk about them when we come back. They have

921
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: outplayed really the Dolphins and the Jets, and they got

922
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: nothing to show for it. We'll talk about that, Steve

923
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Speaker 1: and I when we return One Bills Live from One

924
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: Bills Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

925
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live. We had our visit to practice

926
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: with Chris Brown. We're just talking about how much we

927
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: like that segment. You're not gonna get that anywhere else,

928
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: Folks live practice update on what the Buffalo. If you

929
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: care about the team, but you can only get it here,

930
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: you don't only get it here. We assume you care

931
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: about the bills, and that's what we do for you

932
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: every Wednesday and Thursday, some times even Friday. Maybe we

933
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't assume our Twitter our Twitter poll today. This is

934
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: a simple question, but you got to think about it

935
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: for a second or two. Why is Josh Allen running

936
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: so much so often? You need to call us something.

937
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Eight h three five

938
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Speaker 1: fifty two three one eight eight eight five fifty two

939
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: five fifty It is our Twitter poll on Twitter, more

940
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Speaker 1: than half of you fifty four percent, it's say, hey idiots,

941
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: it's because well the idiot's part of it's because the

942
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: offensive line breaks down. That's basically what ou They're answering.

943
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: This what most people if we in an option, most

944
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: people would say, what kind of a dumb question is this?

945
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: It's the offensive line breakdowns. That's why we took other office.

946
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: Sixteen percent say receivers not open fifteen percent say he

947
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: needs to read defenses better. Fifteen percent say he is

948
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: the best offensive option. Look, they're all true, but we're

949
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: getting we're trying to ask you to rank them for us.

950
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: What do you see on the tweet sheet? Seat It's

951
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: awesome because we've got like, all right, I've got five

952
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: of them on this this tweet sheet. I'm gonna read

953
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: number four from Tony M because he does it for us,

954
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: very good choices. I say it's a combo of all four.

955
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: I'd rate them as follows. The first read their defenses

956
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: better should be thirty five percent. He needs to react quicker.

957
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: The number two is the offensive line breakdown. That's thirty

958
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: percent of the problem. The best option that that's the

959
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: reason he's running because he's the best option. That's a

960
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: twenty percent. Unfortunately he says that's the way it is

961
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: right now. And number four receivers not open. I think

962
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: that's fifteen percent of the problem. Might be the best

963
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: Twitter response we've ever received, very well thought out, very deep.

964
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: I would flip the top two. I would say the

965
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: offensive line breakdown. Offensive line breakdown, maybe thirty five percent.

966
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: Read defense is better thirty percent, But that's a really

967
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: good thoughtful, smart answer, Thank you, Tony him. All right, okay,

968
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: so here we go from now let's go back to

969
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: the top of the sheet. I have to say confidence

970
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: in his receiver's catching ability. Curious as to how many

971
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: drops we have this season. I heard a stat we

972
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: were number two in the league and drops percentage of

973
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: drops I've heard they've called that the Bills have really

974
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: struggled in that and we've all seen it. So yeah,

975
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: that's part of the problem as well. Another one from

976
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: Brian Greer. I think he'd stick in the pocket if

977
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: the old line protected him. Imagine how much better he

978
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: will get with some help on offense. There are comparisons

979
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: to Mike Vick because he's running for his life. He's

980
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: not running because he wants to, but but it's necessary

981
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: to protect himself. That's the balance we're always going to

982
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: be talking about with him. Is he running too much? Well, yeah,

983
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: but he has to. Well on that play, he didn't

984
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: he ran because he wanted. You know, there's gonna be

985
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: always that one instance or a couple of instances where

986
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: he's going to trust his legs before he trusts his arms.

987
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna get that a lot while

988
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: he's well, he's a young quarterback. Hey, a couple of notes.

989
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: Jets tweet out today that Isaiah Crowell, who left the

990
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Bills game last week, is out for their game against

991
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: the Texans this week. Quincy and Nunua, who also was

992
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: in and out of the game, he is out. They

993
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: got some issues down there in New York. And this

994
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: is an interesting tweet from Ian Rappaport NFL Network. A

995
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: battery of tests revealed that Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz as

996
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: a fracture in his back. The team did CT scans

997
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: throughout the season, none revealed the fracture until now. The

998
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Eagles trying to determine if there's any risk of continuing

999
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: to play. No surgery necessary, man, Eagles have been up

1000
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: against it all year, haven't injuries? Yeah, I think you

1001
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: can call it what you want. Everybody's saying, well, the

1002
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl hangover. In fact, I saw a tweet today

1003
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: that now they're saying finally that the Seahawks are over

1004
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl hangover. Now they're starting to play better.

1005
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: Yea three years later, I mean they're still hanging So

1006
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 1: they got caught up in call some of it. Yeah,

1007
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. Now, I think the Seahawks

1008
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: have decided finally after three years where they've lost their

1009
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: legion of boom, where you're gonna have to win different ways.

1010
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: You know, they won with defense that first year they

1011
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: went and beat the Denver Broncos. And you know, you

1012
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: can say what you want to about giving it to

1013
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: Marshawn or not giving it to Marshawn. In the next

1014
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they could have won two in a row,

1015
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: or should have won, or they appeared in two in

1016
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: a row, and then they couldn't keep it together. They

1017
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: started losing pieces and it takes a while to evolve

1018
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: into a different philosophy, which is what I think Pete

1019
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: Carroll and the Seahawks have done. Now they've kind of

1020
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: started to have to pay Russell Wilson and say, Okay,

1021
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: now you're gonna have to be the guy that wins

1022
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: us football games. You and the running game. In the offense,

1023
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to score more points because our defense

1024
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: is not going to be the same as it was.

1025
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, you can say that, but I think every

1026
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: team that remains successful for over long over a long

1027
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: period of time, and who knows better than that, and

1028
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: the team's in the afcast. We've seen We've seen the

1029
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: New England Patriots do it every way you can possibly

1030
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: imagine for an entire season. They did it with a

1031
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: run game, they did it with a defense, they did

1032
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: it with offense, they did it with a tight end.

1033
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: They did in all those different ways that the Patriots

1034
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: have managed to stay successful because they've been nimble enough

1035
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: to change their philosophy. So we'll see it goes around. Hey,

1036
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break here top of the hour

1037
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: and we come back. We're gonna talk about the Lions,

1038
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions with Chris Burke covers that team for

1039
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: the athletic in Detroit. That's coming up next, coming back.

1040
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

1041
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello Bills Radio Network Sports Date if

1042
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: they comes from One Bill's Drive where the Buffalo Bills

1043
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: are practicing as we speak inside the end Pro Sports

1044
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: Training Center, Bills getting set to play the Lions on Sunday.

1045
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: Lashawan McCoy, who did not practice yesterday with a hamstring strain,

1046
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: looks like he's practicing on a limited basis as practice

1047
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: began about an hour ago. We'll get the complete and

1048
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: official practice report coming up at the end of today's workout.

1049
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Also not practicing yesterday Stephen Houskill, but he is there

1050
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: on the sidelines at practice today. Lions have their own

1051
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: injury issues. Running Back kerry On Johnson, who's missed a

1052
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, did not practice yesterday with his knee.

1053
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Speaker 1: His status for Sunday still uncertain. Bills Lions one o'clock Sunday.

1054
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Speaker 1: You can catch a game right here on our flagship

1055
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: radio station in Buffalo, w GR Sports Radio five fifty

1056
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: tonight Thursday Night Football, and some top offensive players will

1057
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: be missing. Others might not play at all. When two

1058
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: of the NFL's high scoring teams play, the Chiefs and

1059
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers meet at Arrowhead Stadium. The Chiefs will be

1060
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: without wide receiver Sammy Watkins with a foot, starting running

1061
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: back Spencer where with a shoulder, and left guard Cam

1062
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: Urban also might not play. The Chargers, ten and three,

1063
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: fifth in scoring in the league at twenty eight points

1064
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: per game, will be without second leading rusher Austin Ekeler,

1065
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: leading rusher Melbourne Gore, and as listed as questionable to play.

1066
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: The game kicks off a twenty tonight at arrowhead the

1067
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: Chargers and the treat the Chiefs in a big AFC

1068
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: West Division battle. Odell Beckham Junior not practicing today, getting

1069
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: further evaluation and his quad injury at a local hospital

1070
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: outside New York. He missed practice earlier in the week,

1071
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: listed as a limited participant yesterday. Eagles are concerned about

1072
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: quarterback Carson Wentz in his back. He has a small

1073
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: fracture in his back that made limited him. The Eagle

1074
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: trying to decide whether he can play the rest of

1075
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: the season or not. It is believed to be non surgical.

1076
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: Las Vegas will host the twenty twenty NFL Draft. Commissioner

1077
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: Roger Goodowell and Raiders owner Mark Davis made dan announcement.

1078
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: It will also be the Raiders first season in their

1079
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: new stadium. There and Sabers tonight, wrapping up their homestand

1080
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: they're a Key Bank Center against the Arizona Coyotes. That's

1081
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: the seven o'clock face off for the Buffalo Sabers. Jack

1082
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: cho red hot five goals in his last three games

1083
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: as they go up to as they go up against

1084
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: Arizona today, and that's the update from One Bill's Drive.

1085
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker night. You don't think you're going

1086
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: to hockey tonight, mister season ticket older, Huh, I might be.

1087
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's actually been decided, and who

1088
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: who would have the decision to make here? Well, I'm

1089
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: at the mercy of my offspring, Okay, I'm familiar with that.

1090
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: They able to decide whether you go. That is correct.

1091
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: Understand that is correct? Got it? Bills, Lions, and we're

1092
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Detroit Lions. They're one win better

1093
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: than the Buffalo Bills as we stand right now. Coming

1094
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: to Buffalo for a rare visit to play the Buffalo

1095
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: Bills in the regular season. Joining us on the subway.

1096
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Fresh Day cot Line, the man who covers the Lions

1097
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: for the Athletic dot Com and Detroit NFL Draft Analysts,

1098
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: spent six years as an NFL writer for Sports Illustrated.

1099
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: Very happy to have Chris Burke one, Chris John Murphy,

1100
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thank you for joining us today.

1101
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me. I think

1102
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: you should go to the Sabers game. Man. They're pretty

1103
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: fun this year. Yeah, they are fun. They are a

1104
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Um that doesn't that doesn't mean it

1105
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 1: could go to the top of my priority list without

1106
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: somebody else's permission, you know, So fair enough, all right, Hey, Chris,

1107
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: on the nature of this this series between the Bills

1108
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: and the Lions, I was stunned to learn early this week.

1109
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: I think it was Monday, that the Bills and the

1110
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: Lions have only played ten times in the regular season.

1111
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: They are regular, almost to the point of nauseum, combatants

1112
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: in preseason, and yet they've only played ten times and

1113
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: the Lions they've only won once here in Orchard Park,

1114
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: one tie at War Memorial Stadium, one win in Orchard Park.

1115
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: That's weird when you consider the preseason history between these two. Yeah,

1116
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone minded skipping that preseason matchup this year.

1117
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: I think it's gotten a little tiresome, But yeah, it

1118
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: is a little unusual, especially just given how close they

1119
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: are and everything. I think it sounds like there's going

1120
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: to be a decent number of Lions fans making the

1121
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: trip just because it is one of those so we

1122
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: don't go, Now, when are we going to get to

1123
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: the stadium? You know, it could be another four or six,

1124
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: seven years, So yeah, it should be fun just to

1125
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: get anytime you get a kind of unique matchup, it's

1126
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of fun. I got one more off

1127
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: the wall question, I guess for you. I will confess

1128
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: to having an affection for the Detroit Lions organization, mostly

1129
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: because of the way they welcomed in the Bills about

1130
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: three years ago when the snowstorm hit here and in

1131
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: November and the Bills couldn't play at home, and the

1132
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: Lions their staff was so welcoming and great to the Bills.

1133
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: But I thought back then and I think now, I

1134
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: don't really get Lions fans. I know they're loyal. I know,

1135
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: you know it's obviously in an original NFL kind of

1136
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 1: flagship franchise, But how would you characterize the average standard

1137
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions fan and what they think of their team

1138
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: Right now? I think they've reached the point of the

1139
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: season that they they reach a lot of years, which

1140
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: is where they say that that's it, that's the I

1141
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore, that they're bad again, they're gonna

1142
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs. I'm not coming back next year. And

1143
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: then you know, Sunday I'll roll around and like I said,

1144
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: bunch of them are making that trip to Buffalo the

1145
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: people will be watching, so they're they're extremely loyal. That's

1146
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: sort of been their reputation forever, you know, to the

1147
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: point where I think they get frustrated at every little

1148
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: thing that goes just because so many things tend to

1149
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: go wrong. But yeah, I mean, it's an extremely loyal

1150
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: fan base and would have to be for them to

1151
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: keep coming back. Many years it's been since the Lions

1152
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: won a division title or won a playoff game. Yeah, well,

1153
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: they make it into this point of the season and

1154
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: as many teams, and the Buffalo Bills included the Lions,

1155
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: I've got some key players that popped up on their

1156
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: injury list. They placed Ziggianza on ir with his shoulder.

1157
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: What's the injury list look like for Detroit? How is

1158
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: this going to affect this game against Buffalo? Yeah, they're

1159
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: pretty banged up. Like you mentioned, Asa, I think has

1160
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: probably played his last game in Detroit and they had

1161
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: to go with him for a chunk of this season already,

1162
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: so they're kind of used to it. They've done a

1163
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: nice job sort of plugging holes up front and certainly

1164
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: getting Damon Harrison in there at defensive tackle there that

1165
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: just totally changed their entire front. They're much better against

1166
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: the run now and he's given them some pass rush too,

1167
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: which I think has been a bonus. So we'll see.

1168
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't they weren't counting on Ansa. I think they're

1169
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: hoping Devon Kanar can come back. He didn't play last

1170
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: week either. If they're neither of those guys can go

1171
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: to Shawn Hands banged up, so they've got injuries all over. Really,

1172
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, carry On Johnson. I think it is probably

1173
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: going to be out again this week. He still hasn't

1174
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: practiced since getting hurt four weeks ago. Marvin Jones on

1175
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: IR they're down their starting guards, so you know they're

1176
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: they're really kind of limp into the finish line here.

1177
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: A bunch of names, especially on offense, that people might

1178
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: not be familiar with, and I think that's why they've

1179
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: turned in their fair share of ugly games here the

1180
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: last month. Well, it has been some ugly games. Like

1181
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: all the teams that are kind of in the same

1182
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: boat as the Bills and the Lions. What is the

1183
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: early return on the fans expectations and outlook and future

1184
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: expectations for Matt Patricia's head coach. Yeah, I mean again,

1185
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: to get back to the frustration of it. I think

1186
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: the reason people are frustrated is because kind of twofold, ay,

1187
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback that you're paying, you know, thirty

1188
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: million a year and a guy that you've built around

1189
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: for ten seasons now. Really so to think that you'd

1190
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: be regressing at this point offensively, even with the injuries,

1191
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: is frustrating. But b you know, they had Jim Caldwell

1192
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: in and two seasons ago, went to the playoffs last

1193
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: season nine and seven and really loss in Week sixteen

1194
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: knocked them out. So to go from there to now

1195
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: they're five and eight and kind of clinging to, you know,

1196
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: long shot playoff life. I think there's just some frustration

1197
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: that they've taken those step backs, but some silver lining

1198
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: again since the Damon Harrison trade, I think the defense,

1199
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: you're starting to see some signs of what Matt Patricia

1200
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 1: wants that defense to be. So I think that's really

1201
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: the silver lining at this point is if he gets

1202
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: you know it, gets this soft season, picks a couple

1203
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: of guys who he thinks fits the system, and keeps

1204
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: building there, then the hope is that they're a lot

1205
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: better there and you know, more successful as a result.

1206
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: Next season on the Line with Chris Burkey covers the

1207
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions for the Athletic in Detroit Detroit season Chris,

1208
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: it seems to me got started off almost in shocking fashion.

1209
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 1: Really two of the first three games that the shocking

1210
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: Prime time lost to the Jets at thirty one point

1211
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: loss at home to the Jets, and then two weeks

1212
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: later they managed to beat New England. What did those

1213
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: two games mean to the rest of the season and

1214
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: to the expectations for the rest of the season. Yeah, well,

1215
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: that Jets loss was a bad one, and then they

1216
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: turned around and they lost heartbreaker in San Francisco the

1217
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: next week. And when you were looking at the schedule,

1218
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: it it always shaped up to be a pretty tough schedule,

1219
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: especially over the middle portion of it. So you kind

1220
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: of circled that Jets game in those that forty nine

1221
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: Ers game as games they had to have lost both

1222
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: of them, so you figured it was going to be

1223
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: an uphill climb from there. I mean, I think the

1224
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: Patriots game. You know, they beat the Packers a couple

1225
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: weeks later, which you know, now in hindsight doesn't look

1226
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: quite as impressive, but at the time was a big

1227
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: win for them, and you know, beat Carolina. They hung

1228
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: in there with the Rams and the Bears. So I think,

1229
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, again, you've sort of seen some signs that

1230
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: this team might have more talent or be better than

1231
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: its record show. But you know, you're also fourteen weeks

1232
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: into the year now and your three games under five

1233
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: hundred and still scuffling every week. So I think it's

1234
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 1: been kind of that mixed bag. And again that's that's

1235
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: just why it's been hard to get a handle on

1236
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: this team this year, because there have been games like

1237
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: that Patriots game where it looks like they can hang

1238
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: with some of the better teams in the league, but

1239
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to get over the top nearly enough. Yeah,

1240
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned a little bit about, you know, the team

1241
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: trying to build for ten years around Matthew Stafford. A

1242
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: lot of teams are looking over there saying, why, you know,

1243
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: why isn't he better? Why haven't they been better offensively?

1244
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: And here you stand, like you said, deep into this season,

1245
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 1: he's got four touchdowns in his last six games. What's

1246
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: the next step for this Detroit Lion offense and what

1247
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: are people waiting to see? Well, I think I think

1248
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: the biggest question going into the offseason for them period

1249
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: is what's going to happen at offensive coordinator. There's been

1250
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: a lot of heat on Jim Bob Cooter, and I

1251
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: think those stats for Stafford, you know, some of it's

1252
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: been caused by, like I said, Kerrie On Johnson's been

1253
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: out and so the run game is not nearly as dynamic,

1254
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: and you know, Marvin Jones has been out. They traded

1255
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: Golden Tate, so you know, you're kind of scraping the

1256
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel in terms of calling at the

1257
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: skill positions. But at the same time, the game plant

1258
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: has been extremely, extremely conservative, a lot of you know,

1259
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: three and four yard passes, just trying to milk the

1260
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: clock and win the time of position possession battle, and

1261
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, keep the defense off the field. And so

1262
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: Stafford's numbers, I think to some extent have suffered as

1263
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: a result of that. But yeah, this is a big

1264
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: offseason for that offense. I think they absolutely have to

1265
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: find someone to try to replace Golden Tate, you know,

1266
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: playmaker from the slot. They they're gonna need a starting guard.

1267
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: They got to get carry On Johnson healthy. So again,

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Speaker 1: the pieces are kind of there you can kind of

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Speaker 1: see what it's supposed to be like when everything's clicking,

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Speaker 1: but we never really saw it click the way they

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00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: envisioned this season, So you know you're gonna go into

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Speaker 1: next year sort of wondering exactly what they have. Hey, Yeah, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Steve here and myself spent the early part of this week.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at Lions and you see some

1275
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Speaker 1: of the issues, but the one thing that stands out

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: to me is is just the arm talent that Matthew

1277
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: Stafford has. And say what you want about conservative offense

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01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: and even lack of playmakers outside playmakers, you know in

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Speaker 1: their offense, that guy can throw it. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: just perfectly accurate, quick release. He's got to be one

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Speaker 1: of the best, most talented arms in the game still

1282
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Speaker 1: even without a whole lot of production to show for

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01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: it this year. Yeah, no question, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: that's why it's been a little confusing to see the

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Speaker 1: game plan, even knowing that they're limited on offense, and

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Speaker 1: you know, knowing that they're they're trying to keep their

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Speaker 1: defense off the field. I think that's been the most

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Speaker 1: confusing thing because last year he was one of the

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Speaker 1: most effective deep throwers in the NFL, and this year

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Speaker 1: that's really not in their game at all. He might

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Speaker 1: take one or two shots per game right now to

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Speaker 1: Kenny Galladay, but that's about it. They haven't found anyone

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Speaker 1: at tight end to stretch the field. You know, Marvin

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01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: Jones wasn't having as much success before he got hurt

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Speaker 1: as he did last year, and they just kind of

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Speaker 1: took that out of their game plans or whatever reason.

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01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: And he's also been really good in his career at

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01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, when plays, when he sees a blitz coming

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Speaker 1: or when he play breaks down and he's outside the pocket.

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Speaker 1: Is initial instinct in the past has been to get

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Speaker 1: the ball deep and just let you know, Galladay or

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01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones or you know, Calvin Johnson before that, go

1303
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: make a play. And now it's sort of to check

1304
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: it down to whoever is closest to him. So there's

1305
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: been really a fundamental change in the approach offensively, and again,

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01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: I think that's something they've got to figure out this offseason.

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01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: Whether it's a scheme situation or you know, he just

1308
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: had a bad year mentally or whatever. They've got to

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01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: get that settled. Talk a little bit about the playmakers

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Speaker 1: they have on either side of the ball. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: Damon snax Harrison. He has made an enormous difference in

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01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: their run defense. And Darius Slay was the NFC Defensive

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01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: Player of the Week for having a pick six, And

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01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: you've mentioned Kenny Galladay as well, or there has there

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01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: anybody been anybody around Matthew Stafford or on either side

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01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: of the ball that have been consistent enough this year

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: or maybe emerged as a guy that the Lions can

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01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: hang their hat on. I think defensively, they've got a

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01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: couple of those guys. Quandre Diggs has been really good

1320
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: at safety, and he's a guy that they can use

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01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: in a bunch of ways. They'll play him in the

1322
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: slot and they'll bring him down against the run, and

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Speaker 1: he can play that, you know, sort of single high

1324
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: pree safety role too. So he's someone there. I don't

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01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: know if Glover Quinn's gonna be back next year. I

1326
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: don't know if Tavon Wilson's gonna be back. So I

1327
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: think he's someone they're really building around at safety. And

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Speaker 1: Tracy Walker played his season high and snaps he's a

1329
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: rookie safety played the season high last week so probably

1330
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: effect to see him again. You know, they've gotten more

1331
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: production I think they expected out of their front even

1332
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: without Damon Harrison. Guys like Romeo A. Kuara who was

1333
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: with the Giants, and Eli Harold they got for a

1334
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: traditional seventh round pick right before the season have been effective.

1335
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: They've got ten and a half decks between them, so

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01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, they've had some guys that have stepped up

1337
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: and played well, but it's been pretty hit or miss

1338
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball too. I think the

1339
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: key for them most weeks is how Jared Davis is

1340
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: going to play at linebacker. He was great in Arizona

1341
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: last week. He has other weeks where it looks like

1342
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: he's not reading plays well. It gets in the wrong

1343
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: gaps and a lot of the big runs they've given

1344
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: up have been because you know, they've been able to

1345
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: teams have been able to kind of take him out

1346
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: of position. So he's a huge key for them every week.

1347
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Speaker 1: And Chris I was happy to see former Syracuse head

1348
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: coach Paul pascaloney Land on his feed. He's defensive coordinator

1349
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: there in Detroit. Does he have a role to play

1350
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: there or is it basically Matt Patricia's defense he has.

1351
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: He's calling the plays for the most part on Sundays,

1352
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: so he's got a pretty defined role in that defense.

1353
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously Matt Patricia's sort of vision in

1354
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: his scheme, but Pascalone has a pretty good amount of

1355
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: control on a week to week basis. And I think

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01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: that they've liked what they've seen at least these last

1357
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: few weeks, especially with Harrison in there. So you know,

1358
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: he was a guy too at the start of the

1359
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: year when things were really going poorly for them, he

1360
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: sort of looked at every coach and said, oh, you

1361
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: could probably replace this guy and might replace this guy.

1362
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: And I think he's he's sort of resolidified himself on

1363
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: that staff. He and Patricia obviously have a pretty good

1364
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: comfort level. So yeah, it's he's uh, he's definitely playing

1365
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: a part in what they're doing defensively. I had one

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01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: more question for you about Matt Patricia. We've talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit here about the Matt Patricia Brian Gable matchup.

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01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: Gable the Bill's offensive coordinator. I think they worked on

1369
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: the same staff in New England for seven years. Much

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Speaker 1: being said about there and that in Detroit or what

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Speaker 1: do you think, what do you make of that matchup? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia talked about it yesterday, you know, said, obviously

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Speaker 1: they're close and he sort of followed Brian into New England,

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01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: and so they've known each other for a long time.

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Speaker 1: He said, they played against each other I think in

1376
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: college too, so it goes back for a while. Yeah,

1377
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: Arpi versus John Carroll. I guess, huh yeah to play. Yeah, so,

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01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, there's sort of pros and

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Speaker 1: cons to it. Obviously, Sorry Gables Rochester. Isn't he University

1380
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: of Rochester? I'm right, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, So

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 1: they go back aways that you know from a Patricia said,

1382
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: obviously there's you know, you know the other guys tendencies,

1383
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: but he also knows your tendencies. So um, it's it's

1384
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: a lot of just trying to make those adjustments on

1385
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: the fly, because going in you have a pretty good

1386
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: feel for at least what the base is going to

1387
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: be on both sides. So I think, yeah, that's certainly

1388
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of a subplot going in. Yeah, let's

1389
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: what we get a good game. You come in here

1390
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: for the game, Chris, Yeah, I am looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Great we'll say hello, thank you for coming on with

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Speaker 1: us today. We appreciate it. Yeah, thanks guys. Chris Burke

1393
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: covers the Lions for the Athletic dot Com and Detroit

1394
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: NFL Draft Analysts. Spent six years as a NFL writer

1395
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 1: for Sports Hillist, ready joining us on the Subway fresh

1396
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Speaker 1: take hotline presented by Subway Restaurants probably be locally owned

1397
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Speaker 1: and operating. Yeah, I'm as spoke. There you have are right,

1398
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: dable and RPI for our guy. I think he was

1399
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: John Carroll. I don't know because I was with you

1400
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: in the He's John Carroll, John Carroll. He's you have

1401
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: are you of are okay? We're being told I'm sorry

1402
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: brought that up because it looked like a total jerk

1403
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: bringing that up. Nana there you know what I mean.

1404
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: And even you get the sense from Chris Burke, who

1405
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: you gotta figure is as close to anybody in Detroit

1406
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: to that team, anybody in the media anyway. He not

1407
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: a real clear picture of where they're at, where they're going.

1408
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, talk about replacing the Jim Bob Cooter, the

1409
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator with that spectacular name. You'd hate to lose

1410
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: a name like that in the NFL. Well, yeah, and

1411
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: even talk about Pascaloni in his first year maybe having

1412
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: some doubters early on. I don't know. I don't know

1413
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: where they're at or where they're going. I don't know

1414
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Speaker 1: what to make of this game coming up on Sunday. Yeah,

1415
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I covered the Lions a couple of

1416
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: games with the Jim Caldwell when he was a head

1417
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: coach there. Jim Caldwell was a coach on a staff

1418
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: at Northwestern when I was there. Under didn't screen. So

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01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: I go way back with Jim Caldwell as being acquainted

1420
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: and have covered him a couple of different times, a

1421
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: number of times and the Pros both when he was

1422
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: a head coach at the Indianapolis Coltson. Obviously, when he

1423
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: was with Detroit, he had nothing but great things to

1424
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: say about Jim Bob Cooter. He's one of the smartest

1425
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: guys he ever been around. He was really taken with

1426
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: his creativity and all that. It's amazing how things have changed.

1427
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Speaker 1: And it's a couple of years, and I think a

1428
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: lot of what's going on in Detroit is a little

1429
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: bit of what we saw here with Sean McDermott and

1430
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: in years past with new coaching staffs coming in where

1431
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: the roster isn't exactly where they want it, and there

1432
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: are some guys that fans had grown to like that

1433
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: just don't fit in the new program and there, and

1434
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: they're making that switch. Then guys get hurt and they

1435
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: have to pick guys and they're not They're picking guys

1436
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: who aren't exactly like the guys that they thought they

1437
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: should pick because of the new vision that the team's

1438
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna be in dunder Matt Patricia, it's I think that

1439
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that even with the pieces that they

1440
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: have in place with Matt Stafford and now with Harrison,

1441
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: Damon Harrison and some of the young guys Darius Slay,

1442
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some turnover in Detroit and it's going

1443
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: to continue to evolve there. And so it's hard to

1444
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: get a handle on a team like that that's new

1445
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: head coach, new staff, a mixed staff both with you know,

1446
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter who was a carry over from Jim

1447
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: Caldwell and Matt Patricia coming over. Yeah, it's you can

1448
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: see why it's a little bit befuddled when you look

1449
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: at them trying to get a handle on who and

1450
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: what they really want to be. It's this happens every year.

1451
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: It happens probably too often for Bills fans and for

1452
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: me quite frankly. Where at the weird part of the

1453
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: year where teams have you know, there's a group of

1454
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: what you were looking at the playoff can ten years

1455
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: earlier today. So there's a group of what fifteen teams

1456
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 1: maybe in the league that can look at the playoffs

1457
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: and say, hey, we gotta win this week's next and

1458
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: the Bills where there are a year agoing how much

1459
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: fun was that? And then there's the rest of the

1460
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: teams maybe what ten, twelve, maybe fifteen who kind of

1461
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: have different reasons for playing. Right. The Bills are all

1462
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: about playing and getting Josh Allen ready for next year

1463
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: right now and looking at young players, trying to figure

1464
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: out what the Lions are all about? Right? What were

1465
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: the Jets all about last year waiting to fire their

1466
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: coach when the years was over? I mean the Dolphins

1467
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: when the Bills went down there two weeks ago, the

1468
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins looked like a team with very little playoff chances,

1469
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: and now they're right in the mix. So it's a

1470
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Speaker 1: weird part of the NFL calendar. I think as we

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01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: moved through these final three weeks where everybody at play

1472
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 1: has got a different sort of agenda. Do you agree

1473
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: with that, Steve? Absolutely. There's four teams that can clinch

1474
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: a spot this weekend, and the Chiefs are already in,

1475
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: you know. So it's that kind of time a year

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Speaker 1: where you've got all these teams that are on the

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Speaker 1: cusp of getting in and only if it collapses do

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Speaker 1: they not make it. Yeah, and there's some there's a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of teams that are like, man, if it

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: falls right for us, we are in right where the

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01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: Bills were last year, where the Dolphins are exactly. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a fun time for all of

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Speaker 1: those teams. And then what about the rest of us? Though,

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01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: then there's the rest of the rest of the teams

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Speaker 1: that are that are looking like well, okay, and let's

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Speaker 1: face it, the Bills. There are a couple of publications

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Speaker 1: USA today who had the Bills as the absolute worst

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Speaker 1: team in football, and then yesterday I read a thing

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Speaker 1: where they were on a scale of one to thirty two,

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01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: they were fifth best in the league at overachieving. That's

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Speaker 1: how low the expectations were for the Buffalo Bills around

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01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: the league, so they kind of were right where they

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01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: were expected to be by a lot of people, in

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Speaker 1: better than a lot of people expected them to be.

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Speaker 1: And even though that, even with all that, they're not

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Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt. I think we talked about it

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Speaker 1: yesterday about what the expectations are for the next three

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Speaker 1: games for the Buffalo Bills, for the Detroit Lions and

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Speaker 1: teams like that, and it is about who they can

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Speaker 1: depend on for next year. What guys on the team

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01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: are gonna rise up and say, miss and I am

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01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: not leaving this team. I'm gonna be here. You're gonna

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01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: need me next year. They're making that statement, and I

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01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: think I'm sure that the Detroit Lions are full of

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01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: guys like that. But also the Lions are different because

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01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: they have an established quality quarterback, you know, they they've

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01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: got to coach one year into his tenure, as opposed

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01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: of the Bills with two Lions have their own. They

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01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: have some similarities to the Bills lack of offensive playmakers

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01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: and maybe some veterans on defense who Chris Burke just

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01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 1: mentioned might not be around. I just it's weird to

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01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: get you know, and every week will be like this

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: down the stretch right, which seems to be you know,

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01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: it strikes me as weird about the Detroit Lions. They

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01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: got this quarterback and then they traded his receiver, the

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01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: best receiver. They don't get. You know, they're draft around

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01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: You say, you're building around him, Well, you're trading all

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01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: his guys, right, you know he's got nobody there. I mean,

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01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I don't know. I don't know

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01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: what they're doing. That's what I'm trying to say. It

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01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: doesn't don't get It doesn't make sense from this side

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01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: of the lake, right. You know, they probably look at

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: us and say similar things. Though. What's Buffalo doing? Right?

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01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit more about what the

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: Bills are doing this week and our Twitter poll question,

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Speaker 1: which I think is interesting, why is Josh Allen running

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: so much? What do you think? There are some obvious

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01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: answers and maybe some less than obvious answers on Twitter.

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: Fifty four percent of you say he's running so much

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01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: dummy's because his offensive line keeps breaking down. Sixteen percent

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01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 1: say he's running so much because his receivers are not open.

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: Fifteen percent say he runs because he needs to read

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: defenses better. It needs to get better at that fifteen percent.

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01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: He runs because, let's face it, he's the best option

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01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: they have on offense. What do you think, n open.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some phone calls eight three fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty or

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01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: tweeting your response. We may read it on the air,

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01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: and we'll keep an eye on the responses to the

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01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: Twitter poll. Dion Lacy Bills linebacker, who may play a

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01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: more prominent role this week, standing by the joint us.

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01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: Once practice sends, we figured that I'll be in the

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01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: next forty five minutes or so, so stick around for that.

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. We'ncome back One Bill's Live from One Bills Drive.

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01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm John Murphy, Steve Tasker making his way to our scent.

1547
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: Something just happened. Something just happened involving chocolate or mocha

1548
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: in a in a coffee, which is delayed Steve's arriving on.

1549
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: I just saw a lot of sprain and swearing going on.

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01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: Simuell tells, I got a cramp what in my hip

1551
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: and a muscle. I didn't know I owned it. It

1552
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: stint to get old or what. I'm sitting there doing

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01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: nothing but getting like a you know, a cup of

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01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: hot water for some whatever. You're making a hot cho. Yeah,

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01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: And I thought there was And I got a cramp,

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01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: like like in the heart of my hip joint. I

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 1: don't even is that possible? Do you need medical attention?

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01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: I almost listen, I almost went down. There's an ambulance

1559
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: right outside the door. Man, does it stinct to get old?

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01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't gonna be listen, It's worse to get old

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01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: than to be out of shape. I'm both Are you okay?

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01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be all right? Now there's a hip

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01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: The cramp went away in my and oh that was

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: kind of painful. Man, I heard you yelling, and I

1565
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: feel good Now I feel good. I'm back in Josh Allen,

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01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: why does he run so much? Give us your answer?

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Speaker 1: Eight three fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. She had another tweet, let's take

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Speaker 1: a call stand on Grand Island. I stand. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Thanks John, thanks for having me onst first,

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: like to cast an official ballot for the best thing

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01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: to come out of Kansas since Eisenhower. I like that.

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01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: Stand your fare. If you are the one hundred voter

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01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: for Steve in the Hall of Fame, congratulations Stan, you

1575
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: win absolutely nothing, just like I Dora Tempo right listen.

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: Do you think perhaps our guy might have a bit

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01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: of Tyrod Taylor disease? I'm speaking now of Josh Allen.

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01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: I knows where the play is going. I think he

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: knows where the offense is supposed to go. But a

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: lot of times I see him reluctant to throw the ball.

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01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: I think the great ones are aggressive. They're going to

1582
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: get picked off guys. You know that our household names.

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01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Do you think maybe

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01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: he's just afraid to pull the trigger. I don't stand

1585
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 1: and I'm interesting what Steve said. I don't see that.

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: I think he is pretty aggressive. I think he just

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01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: says to see it more often, to realize where he

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01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: wants to go with it. He thinks when you talk

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: about like that and you're saying you'll see a little

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor in him, I think maybe there is a

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01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: little too much of that in him, because I just

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01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think he sees it. You know,

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01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he sees it. I don't think he

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01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: has enough time to look for it. I think it's

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: taken him a little time to digest what he sees.

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: I think I've seen him make some throws that that

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01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: he did see. So I'm confused. You do think he is,

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01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: he's not doing it. I don't think he's doing it enough.

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01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he sees it. Um So, I don't

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01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: know whether whether Tyrod didn't see it didn't want to.

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01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: Tyrod's issue, I believe was he didn't needn't want to

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01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: force it into coverage. He didn't want to take a risk.

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01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I don't think that's

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01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: the case with Jojosh at all. And I we and

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: I bet a guy's head off last week on a

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 1: call when sitting here. Yeah, he thought it was he

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01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: was just like Tyrod. I don't think Josh is like Tyrod.

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: I think the stat line says they're a lot similar

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01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 1: that a lot of things say they're similar. I think

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01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think Josh is standing on the

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01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: floor of his career. Tyrod was bumping his head on

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01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: the ceiling. I think I think Tyrod was who he

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01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: was gonna be. He was a six year veteran. He

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: was the same guy Josh is standing on the floor.

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01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't think we know who he's gonna be yet.

1616
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: We see him run a lot, and this Twitter poll

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01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: reflects it. I don't know why it is. Sometimes sometimes

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01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:20,839
Speaker 1: it's because I think the pocket collapses around him. Sometimes

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: I think it's because he wants to do it and

1620
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,560
Speaker 1: he sees some space and he's gonna take it. Some

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01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 1: other times, I think he looks around and sees he

1622
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: wants to throw it to one of his white outs,

1623
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: and there's just not enough there and he didn't want

1624
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: to he doesn't want to get it picked off. And

1625
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: I think some other times it's it's a different reason.

1626
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he can't see, maybe he didn't read the defense

1627
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: well enough. So all of that stuff's on the table

1628
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: with Josh. But I think we have seen week to week.

1629
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: I think this last week we saw a few more

1630
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: throws than we have seen at times, and maybe we're

1631
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: gonna see more of that this week. I don't know, uh.

1632
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: And some of it has to do with the fact

1633
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: that they were playing the Jets and the Dolphins and

1634
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: this week they're gonna be playing the Lions. There's gonna

1635
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna look different to him. They're gonna defend him differently,

1636
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: So all that stuff. I don't know what we got

1637
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: yet with this guy. We got to see him play

1638
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: more and more football. I don't think we have a

1639
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 1: guy who's reluctant to force the ball like Tyrod Taylor.

1640
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he trusts his arm

1641
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: a little more than than Tyrod trusted his UM. I

1642
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: think he's more willing to throw it out there than

1643
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: Tyrod was, or at least I'm perceiving that um. You know,

1644
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: you know so, I think we need to see more

1645
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen before we can evaluate him in any way,

1646
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: shape or for him. There's similar things to him as

1647
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 1: there are. I mean, he's a similar to Ben Roethlisberger

1648
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers as he is to Tyrod Taylor and

1649
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: Mike Vick and and goodness gracious, you can go down

1650
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: the list to guys like uh Ryan Leaf for crying

1651
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: out loud, I mean, there's what are you talking about? Yeah,

1652
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying you're getting the whole spectrum with this guy.

1653
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's great and he stinks in the same game,

1654
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Let's see, okay, let's see. It's

1655
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: too It has neither been great nor has he stunk.

1656
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: Can I say that? I think he's been better than

1657
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: I thought he'd be. Yeah, I can't take my eyes

1658
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: off the guy when he plays. I think he's awesome.

1659
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be awesome. I think he's gonna

1660
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: be better in two weeks than he was two weeks ago.

1661
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna be He's better this He

1662
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: was better this last week than he was two weeks ago.

1663
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: I think he's going to continue to trend upward. He's

1664
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: on a trajectory that I really like. I think he's

1665
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: I think the sky's the limit for him. And he's,

1666
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: like I said, he's standing on the floor of his career,

1667
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: not the ceiling. Thanks for your car. Let's go to

1668
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: Sean at Saint Bonavent. You're Sean. Are you a student? Yeah,

1669
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm a student. Go to you'r a basketball fan down there? Oh?

1670
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: A big basketball fan. Oh? Yeah, we just said you'd

1671
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: be last weekend. That's my question. What I it's funny

1672
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: you walked right into the shun and you're gonna get

1673
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 1: your bills question on the air here. But I was John,

1674
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 1: brace yourself, what the heck happened down there were the

1675
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: fans last week against you be where there misbehaving? Well

1676
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: that's the thing, John, we uh the student session down here,

1677
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean it does get wild. Uh huh do they

1678
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: get rude and offensive and foul mouthed. That's the thing.

1679
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean, I am an upperclassman. I

1680
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: was not participating in any of that. Uh, you know,

1681
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: poor sportsmanship. But yeah, I mean yeah, you know the

1682
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: president could spend out an EMAUTH saying oh that that's

1683
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: how it got behavior when not to tolerating Well, just

1684
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: if you can keep it PG. What was the behavior?

1685
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: What was it stuff they were saying or what I know,

1686
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: I think you know you'll be you know, shocks and

1687
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think they were throwing out the fort

1688
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: a lot. It was just you know, there's kids, you know,

1689
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: there's people there with their families and kids. I mean

1690
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: it was just condivental, inappropriate being a Catholic school and whatnot.

1691
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: But sounds inappropriate. Yeah. I don't get that about that

1692
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 1: place anyway, Sean, that you didn't come here to what

1693
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: are you laughing at? You. Yeah, you're getting the front

1694
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: of what I gave one of our staffers today, a

1695
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: bundamentual alumnus, who I said, asked him saying, question, what

1696
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: the extra problem down there? Sean. Let me just say,

1697
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: I am so glad had you called. Murph has been

1698
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: railing against what you know, what happened against you Be

1699
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: down at Saint Bonaventure this last week. And I'm glad. Yeah,

1700
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you're Sean. You're mature enough to have a handlong,

1701
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: you're an upperclassman. You know that there was some inappropriate

1702
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: behavior down there. I'm glad you owned up to it. Um.

1703
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting that you called today with

1704
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: a Bill's question and allowed Murph to question you about

1705
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: what happened between you Be and Bonna last year, last

1706
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 1: week down there. Okay, you know I'm a big fan

1707
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: of you guys, have watched it as all the times.

1708
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: Thank Sean. And you can you can call. You can

1709
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: call anytime you want now or one of our favorites

1710
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: I had now, Yeah, call, take as much time as

1711
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: you need. I'm gonna go ahead. Now, what's your question

1712
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 1: about the Buffalo bills? That? No, I appreciate it like

1713
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: I said, you know, me and my friends are you

1714
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: know with big fans, you know, the bills and whatnot. Um,

1715
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 1: so you know there's the pool. Pretty much asked the question,

1716
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: you know, is it Allen's inability to read the defense

1717
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: or you our only threat or lack of threats or

1718
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line? UM. I would just my question that

1719
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: I asked earlier. It was kind of just like moving forward.

1720
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: We have so many first year and second year players, uh,

1721
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, like Zay Jones, Wyatt Teller, you know, on

1722
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: the offensive side. And I think McDermott and Being have

1723
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: done a great job, you know, trying to rebuild this team.

1724
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: We are in to rebuild year. My questions elaborate more

1725
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: what's our what's our strategy moving forward with these young

1726
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: talent because I think Being McDermott have an idea that

1727
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, we're here for the long haul. We're going

1728
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: to establish what we need, they get rid of players.

1729
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you guys can just elaborate kind

1730
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 1: of you know, yeah, progress moving forward with Yeah, what's

1731
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 1: the next couple of steps? You know, what's their strategy?

1732
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: Here's the thing here the next three weeks or so,

1733
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: and you've seen this Sean. As this last couple of

1734
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: weeks have taken place, they're going to start looking at guys.

1735
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: They got these young receivers. They cleared the decks with

1736
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 1: the release of the two oldest wide receivers on the

1737
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: roster that didn't they didn't see fitting into their plans.

1738
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: They cleared the decks. Now it's Zay Jones, it's Isaiah McKenzie,

1739
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: and it's Robert Foster. They're gonna get big time Look Ray,

1740
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: Ray McLeod, They're gonna get opportunities to make a case

1741
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: for themselves going forward. Same thing with Wyatt Teller, Ike Butker,

1742
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: with Vlad du Cost, John Miller, all these young interior

1743
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: offensive linemen and Jordan Mills as well. I think all

1744
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,480
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna have a chance to be evaluated

1745
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: in their best light. They're gonna get a chance to

1746
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: make the case going forward. Now, giving that the Sean

1747
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: McDermott his coaching staff, both with Leslie Frazier and Brian

1748
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: day Bold, they're gonna evaluate these all their roster and

1749
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna say where are we going to do too?

1750
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: I think there's no question the wide receivers a place

1751
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: as far as skill positions they're gonna evaluate and say, listen,

1752
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: we gotta get better there. Offensive line another thing. But

1753
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: don't think that just because their defense is number one

1754
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: overall in the NFL, like giving up yards, that all

1755
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: those guys are safe. Either they're gonna upgrade at every

1756
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: level and if it means that, uh, they're gonna they're

1757
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: gonna take a bath on Trent Murphy that he's not

1758
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: gonna be around, or maybe they think, you know what,

1759
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: when this guy gets healthy, we like where he's at. Um,

1760
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna evaluate everybody, everybody on this roster gets

1761
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: evaluated and going forward, particularly with the fact that they've

1762
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: got ninety million dollars in money to spend, they're gonna

1763
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: try and spend it wisely, right right, And I've rather

1764
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, And you know, thank you so much

1765
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: for taking my com picks fans. Thanks Mark, Thanks John,

1766
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: thanks you for Sean. Thanks for good stuff. Withstanding my questioning, questioning,

1767
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: that's a little bit self serving, but I wanted to know.

1768
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: I hate to hear that. Let's go to Jerry and Webster,

1769
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: New York. Hello, Jerry, go ahead and you're on the

1770
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: air with us. Hey, John, I Steve, that's talking to

1771
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: you guys. You bet um, you guys are talking about

1772
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 1: you know, Josh taking off, you know, from the pocket

1773
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And and I'm sure you both remember ej Manuel, Yes, absolutely,

1774
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: And it just seemed like he had no pocket presens

1775
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: or he didn't understand the pressure coming around him. Know

1776
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: how many times we saw a bougust strip and the

1777
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: man could throw the ball like crazy. But I love

1778
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: about Josh. He does seem to have a lot of

1779
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: pocket presents. He seems to be very aware of what's

1780
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: going on around him. And as we've seen a pass

1781
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: he's delivered passes where he's getting sacked, and he delivered

1782
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: beautiful passes. So I think he hangs in there as

1783
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 1: long as he possibly can. And so I was like,

1784
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: in comparison to Tyrod Taylor, Tyrod was shorter, so much

1785
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: shorter than him. I don't think he saw the field

1786
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,959
Speaker 1: as well. And I don't think Tyrod had the confidence

1787
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: in his arm man that Jo says, well, that's yeah,

1788
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: just because he's shorter. It's what he sees and what

1789
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: he can do with what he's got. It's not the

1790
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: fact that he's just shorter. And maybe that's the reason

1791
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 1: he didn't see to feel better. I don't know. But

1792
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: a comparisons aside as for Josh Allen, you're right. I mean,

1793
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: there's a couple of times where he has stood in there,

1794
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: Like last week he hit a nice deep outcut and

1795
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: he had the safety bearing down on him. He stood there,

1796
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: saw the safety coming and he delivered it and took

1797
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: the shot. He also did the same thing in the

1798
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: game two weeks ago against Jacksonville him the seventy six

1799
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: yard touchdown where he stood in there, and everybody, including

1800
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: Murph and me, he thought, well, he hung on to

1801
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: it too long, he's gonna get hit. He got rid

1802
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: of it, seventy six yard touchdown, and that was from

1803
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: standing in the pocket. There's been isolated cases where he

1804
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: has done exactly what you'd love to see a QB do,

1805
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: standing there, face down the rush with a guy coming

1806
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: up in his grill and make the throw. And he's

1807
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: done it a couple of times, and I don't know

1808
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 1: how often. And I just made this observation too. I

1809
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: don't know if I want him standing in there doing

1810
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: that all the time. Great quarterbacks do it and they're

1811
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: protected in the pocket to somewhat. They can't take those big,

1812
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: heavy shots with guys landing on him with all their

1813
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: weight like they used to, and Josh the big guy.

1814
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 1: He may be able to do that, but you know

1815
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: it's isolated instances. You want to see more of it

1816
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 1: or less of it? Do you want to see him

1817
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: run more or less than that? There have been cases

1818
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 1: where he's done everything exactly right, just like were guys

1819
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 1: on people on MSG are watching it right now, standing

1820
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 1: in the pocket, watching that guy come in and then

1821
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: delivering the football with a pressure with under pressure and

1822
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: having the release quick enough to wait till the last

1823
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: possible moment and deliver the ball. Yeah, we've seen that

1824
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of that. I don't know if that's

1825
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: a characteristic I can give to him all the time.

1826
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: But he's shown flashes of it, just like he's shown

1827
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: flashes of being able to outrun everybody on the field.

1828
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: He's shown flashes of being able to throw a nice

1829
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: touch pass. But flashes of all of this stuff doesn't

1830
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: mean it's a characteristic that you can attribute it to

1831
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: him all the time. I just want to say, and

1832
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 1: thanks for your call. From Webster in New York. Comparisons

1833
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 1: to EJ. Manuel to Tyrod Taylor, it's almost meaningless. Trent Edwards,

1834
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: this is the best arm had since Jim Kelly, There's

1835
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. To best armed, most talented quarterback

1836
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: that has been here since Jim Kelly left, what twenty

1837
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,520
Speaker 1: years ago? Twenty one years ago now? So yeah, he's

1838
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: got a lot more potential than anybody that's been hearing,

1839
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: a lot more on the ball, and a lot more

1840
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: physical talent. So to compare him to Tyrod or do

1841
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 1: EJ Manuel is kind of like, why are we wasting

1842
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: our time with that? Yeah, it's it's great. Ceiling is

1843
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: immeasurably higher him because of his talent, because of his

1844
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 1: innate talent. I believe it's you know, it's second nature

1845
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: for people to compare him to what we've seen before.

1846
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: But I think you compare him and all those guys

1847
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: compared Tyrod to EJ. Compared Tyrod to Trent Trent mur

1848
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: Trent Taylor, or Trent Edwards compared Tyrod to Trent Edwards,

1849
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: or JP Lassman to Josh Allen. You compare him all

1850
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: the one. But you've got to do it to make

1851
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: a point about what this guy is. And I think

1852
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 1: the biggest point that we have to accept, all of us,

1853
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: whether we like it or not, is that we don't

1854
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: exactly know where this guy is. All we know is

1855
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: he seems to be getting a little better in a

1856
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: lot of different areas. And there are some areas that

1857
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: are really hard to evaluate because we haven't seen enough.

1858
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: And we know that he doesn't have all that much

1859
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: around him, So I don't know that he can hang

1860
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: in the pocket like he should because the pocket's not

1861
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: there consistently enough for long enough. Yeah, and we don't

1862
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: know if he's not seeing the receivers because I don't

1863
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: know if they can get open because they're unproven. We

1864
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: don't know. If it's fun to finding out. Yeah, it's

1865
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: been fun. And I keep saying it. Go, I keep

1866
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: saying it. Man, I can't get enough of watching him,

1867
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: you know. Hey, Yeah, I want to remind you that

1868
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: coming up this Sunday night our regular show, Bills Tonight,

1869
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,880
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1870
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: be a special digital edition coming up Sunday late afternoon

1871
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: after the game. Ten minutes after the Bills Lions game

1872
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: wraps up, you can go to Buffalo Bills on Facebook,

1873
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,439
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1874
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, Chris Brown on the field. Bills Tonight Special

1875
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: Digital Edition coming up this Sunday, ten minutes after the

1876
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: Bills and the Lions. I'll have highlights from the game, game,

1877
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: locker room interviews, in depth analysis, press conferences with Sean McDermott,

1878
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: probably with Josh Allen this Sunday, ten minutes after the

1879
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,280
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1880
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,559
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1881
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,240
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1882
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Well, the back Bills are wrapping up

1883
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: practice in the next few minutes inside the ad Pro

1884
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,519
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1885
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker One Builds Live here until three. We're gonna

1886
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 1: talk with linebacker Dion Lacy coming up after practice ends

1887
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: as an important special teamer for the Bills, and also

1888
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: may get some defensive snaps this week with Matt Malanowel. Hey, Steve,

1889
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: this this is troubling to me. The Oakland Raiders. We

1890
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 1: know how messed up they are and they have been

1891
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: for years, decades. The Oakland Raiders, you know, had the

1892
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 1: big win against Pittsburgh. Okay. The city of Oakland on Tuesday,

1893
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: two days ago, announced it has filed a federal lawsuit

1894
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: against the Raiders in the NFL. The suit might lead

1895
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: the Raiders to leave Oakland a year early. They do

1896
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: not have a play at least to play anywhere next year.

1897
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: They're moving to Las Vegas in twenty twenty. Where do

1898
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: they play in twenty nineteen? That's the issue. At the

1899
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: owners meetings in Dallas yesterday, the team president of the

1900
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 1: Raiders said the raiders least proposal to the city for

1901
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: the final season is off the table because of the

1902
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: lawsuit filed by the city. So what are we looking

1903
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 1: at here? The Oakland Raiders not sure where they might play.

1904
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: There's been speculation they may go to some other NFL

1905
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: city to play their home games next year. They may

1906
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: try to get a jump and go to somewhere in

1907
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: Las Vegas before the stadium is ready. What a ridiculous situation,

1908
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: What a ridiculous team. It's poor leadership, it really is.

1909
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: It's poor leadership time here, not just the Raiders, I

1910
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: might add, the league is failing in league. It is.

1911
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, I think the league I put

1912
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: them more on the Raiders than I do the league.

1913
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean the league. If if the Raiders would let

1914
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: the league handle, it would be done a much better.

1915
01:30:57,960 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 1: They've done a much better job. They may not even

1916
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: have to eve Oakland, but be that as it may.

1917
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: The Colisseum in the Oakland out to Meet Coliseum is

1918
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 1: a barn. I mean, it's it's horrible facility. It has

1919
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 1: been for a while and it was You can ask

1920
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers even that they can't even get the

1921
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: field right. And I think the fact that you know

1922
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to be one of the teams

1923
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: that host a game internationally, there's no question the Raiders

1924
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: are not going to be in Oakland for another year.

1925
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's too bad that after all

1926
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,759
Speaker 1: the history, the end and out the La LA Raiders,

1927
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: now the Oakland Raiders back in Oakland, and now they're

1928
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: leaving to be the Vegas Raiders, that it's finally going

1929
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: to end for the Raiders and Oakland on such a bitter,

1930
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: bitter note. At the owners meetings yesterday, Roger Goodell says

1931
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: the league needs to know where the Raiders will play

1932
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: home games by early February, a couple of months away

1933
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: at the latest, so they can set the schedule. There

1934
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: have been proposals floated out there for potential one year

1935
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: homes for the Raiders, and the league did not or

1936
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders do not allowed San Antonio. Other cities thought

1937
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: to be in the running include San Diego, Reno, Nevada, Glendale, Arizona,

1938
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: which by the way has Arizona Cardinals UM and Oakland

1939
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: has been ruled out either. Here they are the Oakland Raiders,

1940
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: one of thirty two NFL teams, one time thought of

1941
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 1: as one of the flagship franchises, at least in terms

1942
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: of names in the NFL. I'm not sure where they're

1943
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 1: gonna play next year. They have they go to San Antonio.

1944
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: They have a national following, you know, but oh my goodness,

1945
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: it is a joke. All right. We're back with more

1946
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: in a moment. Diana Lacy's gonna join US Bills linebacker

1947
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: when we return. Command back for that One Bills Live

1948
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Ohime

1949
01:32:48,120 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 1: t do to do? Welcome back, Hour three of One

1950
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: Bill's Life, presented by Kalida Health. We're coming to you

1951
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: from our one Buffalo studio in the ad Pro Sports

1952
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: Training Center. John Murphy Steave Tasker special guest in studio

1953
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 1: with us is practice winds Down. Happy to have Bill's

1954
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 1: linebacker Dan Lacy with his high don thanks coming by.

1955
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 1: You're doing. You never had you here before your true

1956
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 1: second year. You never made it to the show. We

1957
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking a few minutes out before us today.

1958
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 1: That's all right, nice. I never knew it was back here. Yeah,

1959
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: that's right. That's many more expansive studios here, all nice

1960
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: and neat and tidy up. How to practice go? You

1961
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: guys had an old walk through yesterday, you know that

1962
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: with mont Matt Milano out, everybody kind of ratchets up

1963
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: for the linebackers. You guys got to kind of scramble around,

1964
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: see who's gonna take over his reps? How's that going?

1965
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 1: That's going well? Coach came out with a good plan

1966
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: for the you know, for the Lions, and we're gonna

1967
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: roll with it and see how it goes and come

1968
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: out with the wind. What's it like. It's tough to

1969
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 1: lose Milano, I would imagine, right, Oh yeah, he's been

1970
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: the way I look at it with Matt, the way

1971
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:56,799
Speaker 1: the seees he was going on. Guys was talking amongst

1972
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: each other. Pro bowler, you know what he plays and

1973
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: tech the ball and always around the ball and getting

1974
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 1: turnovers and making big plays, big tackles. Yeah, I really

1975
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: like the way he plays. Yeah, this is your second

1976
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: year with the Bills. You came in ready to beginning

1977
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: last year, right after training camp, and you kind of

1978
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of your home now. This is if you

1979
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 1: were twenty eight years old, so you bounced, you were

1980
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 1: in the CFL here with the Cowboys for a minute.

1981
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: You kind of found a home here in Buffalo, right, Yeah,

1982
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 1: I kind of kind of did. And you know, uh,

1983
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 1: Coach Summon dr gave me an opportunity to come here

1984
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 1: and display my skills and I appreciate that. Let me

1985
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 1: ask you about you were here last year claimed off

1986
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: waivers waved by the Dolphins early before the season began.

1987
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: It made a big play in an early season victory

1988
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 1: against the Denver Broncos fake punt, and you were on

1989
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 1: special teams where you play a lot of you know,

1990
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time talk about that play

1991
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: and how you get ready to handle a fake punt,

1992
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: which is fake. It's surprised you, I'm sure, Yeah it was.

1993
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: They were trying to do it kind of fast, and

1994
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, they had Old Liman ask the front line,

1995
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 1: and they had a guy run on late, so they

1996
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: gave kind of guys the opportunity to get ready for

1997
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 1: it and they kind of snapped it in. The offensive

1998
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: tackle didn't get his hands out on me and I

1999
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: had a clean shot to the pp When you when

2000
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: you are out there in what would be the punt

2001
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: return team, do you always have to register in your head? Okay,

2002
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: is there a fake possibility here? There might be? Oh yeah,

2003
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 1: you gotta go through their their calls and their cadience.

2004
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: If you're hearing something different or you're not used to

2005
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: hearing knowing that you know, if you play punt team,

2006
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: you coach and lets no would go safe or you know,

2007
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: you can adjust to it. Yeah, this is a guy

2008
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: who was there for some punt returns, right, you must say, yeah, yeah,

2009
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: I used I was a special teams guy for a while,

2010
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, uh, nobody cares U talk a little bit

2011
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: this week. The lines give me a little philosophy. When

2012
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: when you're setting up the game plan that you got, Leslie.

2013
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: Fraser's got that plan, you're gonna roll with it. Give

2014
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: us a little personality because we've been trying to identify

2015
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: that the Detroit Lions and they got a brand new

2016
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: head coach, they got a kind of an established quarterback,

2017
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: but they've got guys that have been washing in and

2018
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: out of their offensive line up. What's your take on

2019
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 1: the on the Lions offense doesn't look like to your defense? Uh, Basically,

2020
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: they have a good quarterback Matthew Stafford. Also that got

2021
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 1: a good uh receiving running back at the back for

2022
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: twenty five and you know we gotta get rid of

2023
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: we got a kid on him and quarterback in nineteen also,

2024
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 1: So uh, I want to take away those guys and

2025
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: make him beat us into other places. Do you envision

2026
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: more snaps with some of the injuries. Do you think

2027
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: you'll get more work on defense this week or what?

2028
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 1: Do you think? Yeah? Hopefully? Yeah, that's that's that's you're

2029
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:26,560
Speaker 1: looking for. It's always fun, right, get a chance to

2030
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: make more big place. Here's my thing. When I was playing,

2031
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I was a wide receiver, and I told if I

2032
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 1: started playing wide receiver, my special teams hurt. I mean,

2033
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: is that same with you? You start taking regular down

2034
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: a distance, defensive snaps, and all of a sudden you

2035
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 1: gotta stay out there for punt return or whatever. You

2036
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 1: gotta get used to that. Yeah, of course, But at

2037
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 1: the same time, it's mostly mental. And then if you

2038
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 1: got the mindset of you, you know you want to

2039
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: do it. You want to gout that make place. You

2040
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: won't face you until after the game when your body

2041
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: is really aching, and that's when it really hits you.

2042
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 1: And getting limped to the shower. Yeah, you get to

2043
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 1: the ice tub right after the game. So yeah, with

2044
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 1: the Bill's linebacker, special team or Dion Lacy, let's talk

2045
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: about special teams. In kick coverage, that was a rough

2046
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: game on Sunday against the Jets. What did you see

2047
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 1: that went wrong? And in kickoff coverage you think and

2048
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: they got a very good return man obviously, Oh yeah,

2049
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 1: he did. He did very well against us and m

2050
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: he just he just found his found his lane. He

2051
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: uh found his rhythm and he got out early on

2052
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: us in the first half, you know, and coach came

2053
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: up with the idea to get him off his rhythm

2054
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: a little bit and it worked out in the second

2055
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 1: half with the squib kicks. Yeah, right, and did when

2056
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 1: they blocked the field goal, house kood goes down. Did

2057
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: you know you guys are gonna squib it in this

2058
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: coming out a halftime because how school was maybe hurt,

2059
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 1: plus they had the return game going. No, not at

2060
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 1: the time. More at that time, it was kind of

2061
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 1: mad because it kind of felt like they got a

2062
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: chief hit on the house and so we kind of

2063
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: felt like at the time and and um, it's kind

2064
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 1: of like the own I think it was on the

2065
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: field deal coach, like, I was just gonna squib it

2066
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: middle and just get down there and you're gonna get

2067
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: on them right. One of the other things I want

2068
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: to ask you too, is when you get into a

2069
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 1: game like this where you're you're gonna squib it, it

2070
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,560
Speaker 1: throws their timing off, of course, but also one of

2071
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 1: the things we've been talking about. One of the reasons

2072
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 1: you got you guys are the first place that injuries

2073
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 1: on the rosters start to show up. You get new

2074
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: guys in the young guys who come up from the

2075
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 1: practice squad. They automatically go on the kickoff retern. So

2076
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 1: you're running down beside guys who may not have as

2077
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 1: much experience covering kicks as you Yeah, that's that's that's

2078
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 1: not a not a problem with with our team because

2079
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, we have veteran guys that can help them

2080
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 1: help the young guys as they come along them how

2081
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: they should fill in on blocks or how they should

2082
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: see things before they come to them or the ball

2083
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: placed me which way? You know, I'm saying the blocks

2084
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 1: coming and stuff like that. So that gives them more

2085
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: confidence when they get out there, especially they make a

2086
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 1: play with their first time being on the kickoff. You know.

2087
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: So has there been a bigger focus on coverage this

2088
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 1: week in practice so far? I mean you spend the

2089
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 1: more time on it or different schemes? What do you

2090
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: just was just getting after like we always do. You know,

2091
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you have those games where it wakes you back up,

2092
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: like don't take things lightly even though it's special teams.

2093
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, because that's that's what I do.

2094
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: I always I love special teams. But this game saying

2095
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 1: alast game, Yeah, he had a good, good game, Sean

2096
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: mccourman said something Monday was it yesterday? About I mean

2097
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 1: he said the big I'm gonna paraphrase here. The big

2098
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: thing he said on on our coverage teams was mentality.

2099
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: So we got to get back to a mentality as

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Speaker 1: opposed to schemes. What what did you take from that

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Speaker 1: and what it's been discussing in the special. Be more physical,

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Speaker 1: you know, attack, just be mean, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't don't come out of that pity pad, you know,

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01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,839
Speaker 1: don't don't think too much. Just attack and then at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, BSU right, all right? So

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Speaker 1: you grew up um in Brighton, Alabama, just outside Birmingham,

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Speaker 1: went to West Alabama. We had a couple of coffee

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, and then you spent three years in

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Speaker 1: the CFL. You're you want a great cup? Yes, sir?

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Speaker 1: What'd that teach you? Uh? Being being with Eskimo has

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Speaker 1: really taught me how to be a pro because of

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Speaker 1: coming you know from uh from the Cowboys. I was

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Speaker 1: at home for a little while and you know, hanging

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Speaker 1: out and not really you know, playing ball like I

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Speaker 1: was knowingly used to doing, and I was kind of

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Speaker 1: wild and I got back into it, you know, with

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Speaker 1: my attitude and know how to like come back down

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Speaker 1: and you know, saying respect the game. How I should

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Speaker 1: be played and and I really appreciate coach Jones up

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Speaker 1: there with m Deskimos, right, So I gave you a

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Speaker 1: chance to kind of find yourself. Yeah, play for a while,

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Speaker 1: learn how to be a pro, learned how serious you

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Speaker 1: had to take it, change your mindset. And then and

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Speaker 1: you translated that when you got picked up by Buffalo. Yes,

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01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 1: did you have occasion to go up against the Hamilton

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01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 1: Tiger Cats receiver by the name of Faster. Did you

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01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 1: ever have any encounters with young Luke Tasker up there

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01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 1: in CFL. No, he wasn't really a talker. He was

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Speaker 1: just doing my job show you like. He was never

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01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: a trash talker, but you know, he was a great

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01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 1: receiver up there. It's funny because his dad is kind

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Speaker 1: of a talker. Yeah, dad's a radio trash and otherwise

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Speaker 1: dad talks for a living. To you, the CFL experienced,

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01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 1: what did it do for you as far as succeed

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Speaker 1: any of the NFL. What did you think you took

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01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: from CFL? Uh? Mainly, um, I think it helps help

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01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: me more on special teams. I really didn't give my

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Speaker 1: opportunity to play defense until my last year because you know,

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01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: the CFL is no fair catch on punt and kickoff,

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01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: so you have to return it yet more. Yeah, so

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01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:20,600
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's different here where you know the

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01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: guys kick it out of the end zone. It's it's

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01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: a touchback. So do you lay downs better than four? Yeah?

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01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 1: The game is faster. Yeah. The only thing I wish

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01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 1: they would take away is, uh, take away the fair

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01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: catch from the game down here and here and give

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01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 1: them that that five yard hello to catch it. What

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01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 1: about the what about the size of the field? I

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01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: keep the same here, Yeah, because everybody, you know, it's

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01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: more competition. Everybody's faster, some people faster. It's not much space.

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01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: And when you look at the difference the field up

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01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 1: in Canada's just so huge. Yeah, it's like yeah, it's

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01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:51,919
Speaker 1: like I love that. Yeah, it's like there's no boundaries.

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01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 1: Yea wide open Yeah. And then come back down here

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01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 1: and the guys are a little bigger and fast and

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01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 1: the space gets eaten up real quick. I guess defender,

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01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: you kind of like that. Oh yeah, that's better, a

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01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 1: lot better. Yeah, Dean, where's the last question for you?

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01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 1: Where is this Buffalo bills team's head at right now?

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01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: Three games left, playoffs, the mathematical chance that existed or

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01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: is gone. Now, how do you think your team is

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01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 1: approaching this week in the final three games of this season?

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01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 1: Where's the head at right now? Went out? Went out? Yeah,

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01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's it. And you know, no, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know we're not in the playoffs or

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01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 1: anything like that. We're not approaching it even any different.

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01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: We come for every game every week to win. We're

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Speaker 1: not approaching it to lose. You know, it's because we're

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01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 1: not in the playoffs. We still got stuff to prove

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Speaker 1: and show that we were still competing team. All Right,

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01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: it's good to hear good luck, to say congratulations on

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01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 1: a good season. I hope you kind of hang in dude, dude,

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01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 1: keep going, can make the most of this opportunity, come

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Speaker 1: up against the trail. Awesome thanks Sam Dean Lacy Bills

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Speaker 1: linebacker joining the Steve and I coming back with more

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Speaker 1: in a moment. It is One Bills Live or coming

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Speaker 1: to here from one Bill's drive and this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Let him live with different consequences of his action.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're joined the conversation in mid sentence with myself, Stephen.

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you, Go ahead. Why do

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01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 1: you get mad at me? When I mentioned to special

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01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 1: teamers on the current Bills roster that they're talking to

2183
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 1: a guy who went to seven Pro Bowls. They're not

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01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: required to know who what God tries year ago. I'm

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01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 1: trying to educate him. I think that gives you stature.

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01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: I think that gives you presence. I think they might

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01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 1: answer your questions better if they know that they're being

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01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: asked by a guy who's done what they do and

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01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 1: did it at the highest of high levels. How can

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01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: that make you mad? It doesn't make me mad. I

2191
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: just feel bad for the guy because he's gonna feel bad.

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01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: He didn't know. No, I don't think. I think. Did

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Speaker 1: you see the look on Dan Lacy's face, He's like, WHOA,

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Speaker 1: seven Pro Bowls? Didn't feel bad. I don't anticipate how

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Speaker 1: to say something trying to make him look bad. No,

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01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to. I'm trying to educate him that

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01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 1: he's dealing with this guy's history. Here. You forget when

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01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: you played, if somebody said to you this is exactly

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Speaker 1: what I was gonna said, WHOA first, yeah, I would

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01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 1: have said Wow, that's yeah, that is pretty good. But

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. When I was playing and all the

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Speaker 1: old guys would come in, Um, they're good friends of

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01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 1: mine now like hey, Paul McGuire, uh, Jack Kemp, Lupa Cone,

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01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 1: all those guys who they became friends of mine. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of my seat. I'm in the

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01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: middle of playing my career, you know stuff. And I

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01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,600
Speaker 1: appreciate that they were players and all that, but you know,

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01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 1: your focus is elsewhere. I mean, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I can't be a fan right now, I'm playing kind

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01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 1: of thing, you know. Um, And plus there was always

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01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 1: there's always a thing, and I'm sure that new guys

2212
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: feel like this. Hey, the game's listen. I'm playing thirty

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01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 1: years after or you did. The game's different, so I

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01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: don't need the advice, you know. So it was easy

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01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: to go to seven Pro Bowls back. And I'm not

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01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: saying that. I'm just saying that it's different. It's it's

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01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: way different. The kickoffs are way different now. Punk Team's

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01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 1: a little different, you would argue the kickoffs they are

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01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: a lot easier now than they used to. Oh very much.

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01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: So there's no wedge, are you kidding me? No? Double teams. No,

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01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: no peel back blocks. Yeah, it's a lot different. I know,

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01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: you're you're you're. You don't want to appear to be

2223
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, self aggrandizing. You don't you want to appear

2224
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 1: to be humble, appear anyway. But I mean, come on,

2225
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 1: no one to appear like the rock stars. I think

2226
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 1: I am. The guy's doing essentially the same job you did.

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01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 1: You should know that you did it at the highest

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01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 1: of high levels for for years. Well here's the thing.

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01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 1: You should know that. Yeah, here's the thing. If if

2230
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 1: they don't, they don't care anyway, So why bring it up? Okay,

2231
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I disagree. If the guy

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01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 1: doesn't know the history of he doesn't know who I am,

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01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 1: then he has no business, no am, If it's unimportant,

2234
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: it's not to be an important. After you tell him,

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01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 1: next time you walk down the hall here and Dean

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01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 1: Lacey walks by, you know what, he won't probably won't

2237
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 1: say it, but you know what he'll think, Well, that's

2238
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: the guy that played special teams, who went to seven

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01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: Special teams or at seven Pro Bowls. Guarantee you he

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Speaker 1: will remember. Maybe, okay, maybe I believe me. I'm uncomfortable

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01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 1: kind of pumping you up like this. But don't get

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01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 1: mad at me because I mentioned that the guy, Yeah,

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01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: you gave me a look, did not? Yes you did? Yeah. Well,

2244
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: listen here the guys on our show. Because he we're

2245
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 1: talking to him, you don't have to start talking about me.

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01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: That's all right, I'm restating this. I wanted him to

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01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: know that he was talking to a guy who has

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01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,799
Speaker 1: a certain amount of stature when it comes to special

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01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL historically. All right, all right, I

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01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: get that, all right, Like I can appreciate your thought process.

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Speaker 1: We thank Dean Lacey for coming on the show talking

2252
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 1: to us. Our Twitter poll today is going pretty good.

2253
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 1: Why it's simple question, why is Josh Allen running so much?

2254
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 1: What do you think? You can vote on Twitter. We've

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01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 1: got more than eight hundred fifty votes in so far.

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01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 1: Fifty three percent to be more than half of you

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01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 1: think he runs so much because the offensive line is

2258
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 1: breaking down. Sixteen percent say he runs so much because

2259
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 1: he needs to read the defense is better. Sixteen percent

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01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: say he runs so often because his receivers are not open.

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01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 1: Fifteen percent say he runs because he probably realizes he's

2262
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: the best offensive option. They have right now, give us

2263
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: a call. We'll discuss eight fifty toll free eight eight

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01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: fifty two. Yeah, there's no question he's And we had

2265
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,759
Speaker 1: this conversation a little bit last week when the season started.

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01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 1: If if you can remember back that far, I remember

2267
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: having this conversation saying it, and you know, we've got

2268
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,679
Speaker 1: to make sure and it's all changed now, obviously because

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01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 1: we're three or four months into this. He said, listen,

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01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,560
Speaker 1: we've got to run the football this year, because you know,

2271
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 1: Lashawn is our best offensive weapon. He's the best player

2272
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 1: in our offense. We've got to get him involved so

2273
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 1: that the pressure is off the quarterback. How far we've come,

2274
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 1: because now the quarterback is the best option. I think

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01:47:58,200 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: there's I think it'd be hard pressed to have some

2276
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: He say, you know that Josh Allen isn't the best

2277
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 1: offensive player on the team right now? Oh yeah, right,

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01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,760
Speaker 1: And I think it's significant that that has changed over

2279
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 1: the course of what the last month, month and a half. Yeah,

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01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 1: since he's come back from injury. Yeah, yeah, certainly, since

2281
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 1: he's come back from injury. And I can't even remember

2282
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 1: what it was like before he got injured. But yeah,

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01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 1: I think I think that's really true, and I think

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01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 1: it's significant to mention that, so I did. Okay, you're

2285
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: mad at me for being at You're mad at me

2286
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 1: for being mad at you. Not mad. I wasn't mad

2287
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 1: at you. You're Sandy and Buffalo. Hello, Sandy, welcome to

2288
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 1: the show. Hi, thanks for taking my call. Sure you both,

2289
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 1: thank you. That's luck with your nomination. I know you

2290
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear that, but I appreciate you for

2291
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 1: many years ago. Take time. I can't take a compliment.

2292
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're come across your scene. I'm

2293
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,640
Speaker 1: training you pretty pretty soon you'll be be rating me

2294
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: just like everybody else. Listen, it's not an endless supply

2295
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: of compliments for me or the listeners. All Right, all right, Sandy,

2296
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: go ahead, fine night. It's fine. Him is because of

2297
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: all the negativity that's out there. I just want to

2298
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 1: say that I totally agree. I'm a huge fan of

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01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's talents. I find myself getting anty just waiting

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01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 1: for the weekends I could watch him play. I think

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01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 1: he's extremely talented. I think he's the best thing that

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Speaker 1: we've had in the city in a long time. And

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how any Bills fan cannot be ecstatic

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01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 1: over the future at quarterback? Do you so, Sandy? Do

2305
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 1: you think? Do you see great hope and future and

2306
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: promise He's going to be like one of these quarterbacks

2307
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 1: like Ben Roethlisberger, And he's gonna be like Drew Brees

2308
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers and Russell Wilson. He's gonna be one

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01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 1: of those really top flight guys. I think he's going

2310
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 1: to be a top flight guy, and I have thought

2311
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 1: so since the beginning. I get excited when I watched

2312
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 1: him playing preseason, even and I know people weren't all

2313
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: that excited. Sometimes I literally get out of my seat

2314
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 1: just to watch him play. All right, felt that way

2315
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,560
Speaker 1: in years. All Right, Sandy, I got something for you.

2316
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: I want you to be completely honest with yourself and

2317
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:03,759
Speaker 1: all of us. What is your biggest doubt about Josh Allen.

2318
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,679
Speaker 1: I am not as concerned with accuracy as everybody else does.

2319
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 1: I think he can throw the ball. He's got an

2320
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 1: arm like a cannon, as everyone says. I think I

2321
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,560
Speaker 1: think we just if we could just get him some

2322
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:21,719
Speaker 1: help on the old line. I think that the guy's

2323
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: going to be phenomenal. I mean I'm trying not to

2324
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 1: be a fan girl here, but failing, I felt as

2325
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 1: excited watching a quarterback play since Jim Kelley. All Right,

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01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 1: I will thank you, Sandy. That's awesome. I appreciate it

2327
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: that and I agree with you. I think there's a

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01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: lot of reason to be optimistic about it. And I

2329
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 1: feel like you do. And I've said it a bunch

2330
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 1: of times on the show. I think it's really fun

2331
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 1: to watch this team when he's playing quarterback. And I

2332
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 1: know they've lost two out of their last three, they've

2333
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,599
Speaker 1: been competitive in all three they've They've had it there

2334
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 1: for the taking. I don't think there's any question that

2335
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: this last week, if they hadn't given up almost two

2336
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: hundred yards in return yardage, Jets weren't good enough to

2337
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,560
Speaker 1: beat this team with Josh Allen playing quarterback. And I

2338
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 1: think against the Dolphins, they had one play at the

2339
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 1: end after all the problems up and down through this game.

2340
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 1: If they have one play that wouldn't even have been

2341
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 1: that spectacular of a play on the other on either

2342
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: end of it, they would have done that game. So

2343
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 1: you would think, you know, maybe they'd be really flying

2344
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 1: high right now with a three game winning streak, but

2345
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 1: they lost these last two. But like you, I think

2346
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 1: there's a lot to be really excited about. And I've

2347
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: said a time and time again, he makes this team

2348
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. Thank you, Sandy. Let's

2349
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: take a few more phone calls here about Well, let's

2350
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: stick with Josh Allen. Why are you run so much?

2351
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 1: Hears gentleman in Buffalo. Hello, sir, you're on the air.

2352
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: Hey Steve, how you doings? Her doing good? All right? Well,

2353
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 1: my take on this whole Josh Allen thing is okay.

2354
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: I think more people were were more excited because he

2355
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 1: was a He's the first quarterback, franchise quarterback that we

2356
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: picked in a while. But in college he wasn't the man.

2357
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he his accuracy was off, you know what

2358
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean. He wasn't a pocket passer. And supposedly that's

2359
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: why we that's why we got rid of Tyrode, because

2360
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: we wanted a guy who could stand in the pocket,

2361
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: like you said, Ben been Ben Roethlisberger type, Drew Brees

2362
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: tight now a running quarterback. That's what we had in Tyrode.

2363
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:20,759
Speaker 1: So supposedly that's why we got rid of Tyrode. Josh

2364
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: Allen does not let the play set up. He'll he'll

2365
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 1: be He'll be already in the shotgun, not un the center,

2366
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: He'll be in the shotguns. Get the snap. Look at

2367
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: his first ree he going Why do I? Why do I?

2368
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 1: Why do I think? Gentlemen? Is there running through the

2369
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 1: plays right there? Do you think let me ask you this?

2370
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: So you think you're down on him. You don't think

2371
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be You don't think he's gonna mount to

2372
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 1: to a franchise quarterback. Well, I don't. I think he's

2373
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 1: gonna be like JP lostman. He's here this year, next

2374
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:55,719
Speaker 1: year because we're we're still rebuilding. We're gonna see what happens.

2375
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 1: The second year is when the rookie, uh, second year

2376
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks usually make their mark. He's not going to make

2377
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: his mark. That third year is gonna come as we

2378
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: do in Buffalo, Josh is going to be gone. M

2379
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so. If the gentleman will yield for

2380
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 1: a comment here, I don't think you're right about that.

2381
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: I do think they're already signs this year that he

2382
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 1: is way ahead of As I said, anybody but Kelly

2383
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 1: since Kelly uh, and it's it's physical skill. Yeah, he

2384
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 1: is the same guy he was at Wyoming Wyoming with

2385
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: a big, strong arm and tremendous athleticism, and they're trying

2386
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 1: to build on that. They're trying to refine that. They're

2387
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,639
Speaker 1: trying to teach him how to read defenses and trying

2388
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 1: to teach him, you know, the subtle nuances of playing

2389
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 1: the position and determining when to run and when to

2390
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 1: hang in there and take a hit and pass. It's

2391
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 1: a it's a work in progress. It's a process if

2392
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 1: the gentleman will work. And I think one thing I

2393
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 1: noticed that's a subtle difference in what he's saying is

2394
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 1: Tyrod was playing behind a much much better offensive line

2395
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: than Josh. Isn't he seen a number one running attack?

2396
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:53,679
Speaker 1: He had the number one running tack in the league,

2397
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't throw the football when people in the

2398
01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:00,560
Speaker 1: stands at home and everybody at place else felt like

2399
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 1: there were wide open guys running through the secondary. Now

2400
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 1: there's been some people who called in and said, I

2401
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 1: think they think Josh is missing open receivers. I haven't

2402
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 1: seen that to the extent that I did before. And

2403
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 1: unlike I said too, I think Josh Allen standing on

2404
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:17,679
Speaker 1: the floor of his career, not he hasn't hit the ceiling.

2405
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 1: I think Tyrod was at the ceiling. I think he

2406
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 1: was as good as he was gonna get. He had

2407
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: the number one running attack in the league, and had

2408
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,600
Speaker 1: an offensive line that was good in pass pro and

2409
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: in the run, and at early in his career here

2410
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, he had a really good set of wide receivers.

2411
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 1: They couldn't get it done, and I think they were

2412
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 1: ready to move on from a guy who had reached

2413
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,280
Speaker 1: his ceiling and try and get a guy who, as

2414
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 1: as everybody at Callers said, Tyrod Taylor, is every bit

2415
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback that Tyrod Taylor was. Tyrod Taylor was at

2416
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 1: the ceiling of his career, and Josh Allen is taking

2417
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: his first snaps as a pro. So I think the

2418
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 1: sky's the limit for him from this point. And I

2419
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: think there's no question that the surrounding cast on offense

2420
01:54:56,480 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 1: is much depleted from when it was just to couple

2421
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 1: of years ago. So I think I think there's every

2422
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 1: reason for optimism about his development, and certainly we've got

2423
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 1: to see it. I'm not gonna say it's absolutely on

2424
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 1: the gonna happen, no question, but I got a lot

2425
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 1: of optimism that it's going to get a lot better

2426
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:14,040
Speaker 1: than where it is even today. Let's sake a call

2427
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 1: from another gentleman, Steven Lancaster. Go ahead, Steve, welcome to

2428
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 1: the show boys. Thank you. I'm just wondering what the

2429
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: line and current condition of the build and his advancement

2430
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 1: this year. I think there's more tolerance for him this

2431
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 1: year versus next year with the salary cap that we've

2432
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 1: got that we're going to be able to go forward.

2433
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: How much more expectations a scamp between this year and

2434
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: next year you think that the owners are going to

2435
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 1: have with this team, What are they going to expect

2436
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 1: going into next year with all that, Yeah, that's a

2437
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 1: great question. I think they'll expect playoff contention. Honestly next year.

2438
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 1: I think they're they're going to spend money, obviously, gonna

2439
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 1: spend the ten draft picks they have. It'll be the

2440
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,280
Speaker 1: third year for the coaching staff, and I think they're

2441
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 1: going to expect that it's a legitimate playoff contention next year.

2442
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't think that's too much to ask either, Steve. No,

2443
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: they've got to. In fact, if you if you look

2444
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 1: at this team this year, they will expect if this

2445
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: year was next year, they would have expected them to

2446
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: win against the Houston Texans in that close game down

2447
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: there where they were Nate Peterman through the late pick

2448
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 1: six to cost him the game. They would have expect

2449
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 1: him to beat the Dolphins last week and the Jets

2450
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 1: this week, and he put those three games in the

2451
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 1: win column, and the Bills are sitting at seven and

2452
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 1: six with a chance to go. That's what they would

2453
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: expect next year with a second year quarterback in a

2454
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 1: newly built offense. Steve, what are your expectations? That's a

2455
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 1: good question. I haven't really thought about, you know what

2456
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: I will say, And I think this is a good

2457
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 1: question for after December thirtieth, after this season ends. Yeah,

2458
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 1: but go ahead, Steve, you've opened up the bags. I

2459
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a fair question. I think

2460
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 1: it depends. I want to see what they do in

2461
01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: free agency. I want to see how good they expect

2462
01:56:58,200 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 1: to be up front of him, and I really want

2463
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,839
Speaker 1: I think there's work to be down the next three sundays.

2464
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to see what Josh looks like the

2465
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 1: next three sundays. You know, what do you think? See?

2466
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't think you can sustain him pulling the ball

2467
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: down and running all the time. No, Steve, your expectations.

2468
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 1: What do you think? Oh you said, Steve? I thought

2469
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 1: that no one. My bad, My bad, my bad. Go ahead, Steve,

2470
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 1: I apologize myself by what just corrected me? Do to

2471
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 1: that as well? Are your wife and you doing a show,

2472
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: your own show, Steve doing a show, a little talk

2473
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 1: show with the kitchen taple? Go ahead? I'm sorry, Steve

2474
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 1: on the phone, that's my fault. Expectations pretty much run

2475
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 1: parallel with you, Steve. Um. I none is more much

2476
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 1: concerned this year with the losses, opposed to a couple

2477
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 1: of weeks when I did call you and UM explained

2478
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 1: that I was the Miami lost the way they lost.

2479
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 1: I was activated with the celebration moving on from there,

2480
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 1: the losses that may occur this year, I'm more interested

2481
01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: in UM, in Ellen's progression and that next year. I'm

2482
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 1: just wondering, given that salary cap, and that with the

2483
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:10,160
Speaker 1: potential to get a better line with the amount of

2484
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 1: salary cap, will anybody be on the hot seat even

2485
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 1: if short expectations aren't met. I don't know. I think

2486
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 1: it depends on how they're not. I mean, it depends

2487
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 1: on so many things. You can't I don't think you

2488
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: can make a blanket statement when there's so many moving

2489
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: parts to what we have not seen yet. When we

2490
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 1: get to that point, we'll know some things and the

2491
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 1: expectations will change and be varied about. You know, how

2492
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 1: good their offensive line should be, how good their running

2493
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 1: backs should be, how good these wide receivers are they're

2494
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 1: new or the old ones or the young ones who

2495
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 1: have emerged. What are they going to look like? Or

2496
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: what are their expectations for those guys? And I think

2497
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 1: it's going to all depend on that. The draft class.

2498
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what's gonna look what's it gonna look like?

2499
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 1: What are they gonna expect this defense to do? Their

2500
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 1: number one in the league this year? Yards allowed? Um,

2501
01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 1: they're good defense this year. Are they going to continue that?

2502
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 1: Are they going to take a step back? A lot

2503
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 1: of things? And is Josh gonna come out of this

2504
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 1: season one hundred percent healthy? Um? All of that stuff. Look,

2505
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 1: I get tired of the hot seat questions. If we're

2506
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks away from when a bunch

2507
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 1: of coaches will be fired and replaced, you know that

2508
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 1: process begins and we've gone through that so much here

2509
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I don't look forward to that. If it

2510
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 1: has to happen, it will happen. But rest assured this

2511
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 1: coaching staff is in pretty good stead with the ownership.

2512
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 1: I agree right now. And I don't know who knows.

2513
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 1: You know, if they lose sixteen games, yeah, they'll switch coaches,

2514
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: you know. All right? Thanks? Steve agreed? Or I think

2515
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 1: he's talking to his wife. They're doing their own show.

2516
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: They're doing their own show with the kitchen tay for them.

2517
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 1: Let's go to uh this call about Josh Allen from

2518
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 1: Frank in Tonawanda. Hello, Frank, you're on the air. First

2519
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,400
Speaker 1: of all, mister tasker. I've seen every Bows game that

2520
01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 1: you played in Wow Statium, and you do be along

2521
01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame there you go. How many

2522
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 1: games you play? And Steve a bunch? Yeah, Josh Allen

2523
02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 1: running so much definitely stems from a weak offensive line

2524
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 1: and talent around him. He needs a strong tight end.

2525
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 1: You build your team with your offensive and defensive lines. Yeah,

2526
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:19,919
Speaker 1: I agree, Frank. I have always thought that the offensive

2527
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 1: line is the biggest position group on the field and

2528
02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 1: the other side. Conversely, I think the defensive line is

2529
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 1: just as important, So I'll go with you and I do.

2530
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 1: There's no question offensively, they spent a lot of assets

2531
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 1: to get Josh Allen on this team. He's here now

2532
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 1: and now they've got to figure out what he needs

2533
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 1: to be successful and put it around them. And I agree,

2534
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:44,280
Speaker 1: there's the offensive line is a good starting place. The

2535
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers have been a work in progress as well.

2536
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 1: They've released a couple of guys to make room for

2537
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:53,320
Speaker 1: these young guys so they can evaluate him. So it's

2538
02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 1: all on the table, and these next three weeks it's

2539
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:56,360
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of fun to watch and

2540
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: see how they progress. If Frank, I just looked it up,

2541
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker played in one sixty Buffalo Bills regular season games,

2542
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,240
Speaker 1: not among the top ten, but second among wide receivers

2543
02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:08,280
Speaker 1: only Andre ridd More. You telling me, Frank, you saw

2544
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 1: all one hundred and sixty games home and away that

2545
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker played in, not away, all the home games. Oh,

2546
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 1: and I watched you all away games on TV. I've

2547
02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 1: been in Bill fan since nineteen sixty five, one hundred

2548
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 1: and sixty games. You're you're shrugging, like watching every single

2549
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:24,280
Speaker 1: home game live and in person, wasn't a big deal.

2550
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 1: I played for eleven and a half years. I've seen

2551
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:29,280
Speaker 1: you too. I think I probably was at every game

2552
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:31,280
Speaker 1: you ever played, now that I think of it, right, Yeah,

2553
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 1: yeah you might have been. Where's where do I line

2554
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 1: up for my medal? How many games? That's a better question.

2555
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 1: How many games have you been a part of? I

2556
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 1: don't even know. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot.

2557
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:43,200
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty four and sixty five. I had season

2558
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:46,240
Speaker 1: tickets for fifteen years. WHOA, Oh awesome, there you go.

2559
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:49,440
Speaker 1: That's great, Thanks Frank. Talking about Josh Hallen a little

2560
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 1: bit here, Wayne and Spring go. Hello, Wayne, welcome to

2561
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 1: the show, and you're on the air. Hi, how are

2562
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:57,600
Speaker 1: you doing right? I just went on. Let's say one

2563
02:01:57,640 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 1: thing about the Josh Yellen. I think that he's a

2564
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 1: prim seeing young quarterback. I think two that he definitely

2565
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 1: needs a front line because he does not get the

2566
02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:08,800
Speaker 1: protection he should and with all the penalties, they get

2567
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 1: themselves in such a hole sometimes and he's really trying

2568
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:15,080
Speaker 1: hard to dig himself out of it, which is unfortunate. Yeah,

2569
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:17,839
Speaker 1: I mean that's yeah, you're right. Penalties were a problem,

2570
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 1: and turnovers were problem against the Jets as well. They

2571
02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:24,480
Speaker 1: turned the ball over three times, and yeah, all that

2572
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 1: stuff in a game. In the games that have been

2573
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 1: so close as the last three have been, you can

2574
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 1: always boil the whole game down to like three instances

2575
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 1: that made the entire difference in the game. And certainly

2576
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 1: this game is no different than that this last game

2577
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: against the Jets. One penalty here or there, or you know,

2578
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 1: one play, one catch, one drop, whatever, they all make

2579
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 1: an enormous difference in a game that's so close. You

2580
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 1: can say that about every NFL game. Thanks Wayne, here's

2581
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:56,600
Speaker 1: Mike and Rochester. Hello Mike, go ahead, Yes, thanks guys

2582
02:02:56,680 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: for talking with me. My point is this, I'd love

2583
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:04,640
Speaker 1: watching Josh run around the field. He's got drive, enthusiasm,

2584
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 1: and passion and that's what makes us want to watch.

2585
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,760
Speaker 1: But the reason I'm calling is is I'd like to

2586
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 1: see better play calling to develop them as a quarterback.

2587
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, some quick square outs are pos. Some screens

2588
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 1: is where he's getting rid of the ball in two

2589
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: or three seconds. I just don't get this dropping back

2590
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 1: looking for stuff. I just want to see. I know

2591
02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 1: the West Coast off, you know where I'm going and

2592
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the play calling because if we're

2593
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:35,440
Speaker 1: trying to develop Josh, it's the short, accurate passes. I

2594
02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:38,480
Speaker 1: have no idea why we're not doing that crossing passes

2595
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 1: like we've been getting killed by New England over the years.

2596
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. So well, that's take. I'll

2597
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 1: tell you what, Mike, and I'll address it a little bit.

2598
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 1: And the reason you see plays called the way you do,

2599
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:53,720
Speaker 1: there's a number of them. One is you had the

2600
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:56,400
Speaker 1: guys that can run those plays and they're good at it.

2601
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,040
Speaker 1: One reason you don't see other plays run is just

2602
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,200
Speaker 1: the opposite of that, don't feel confident their guys can

2603
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:05,040
Speaker 1: execute it. Another thing is it comes to the talent

2604
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,879
Speaker 1: around Josh as well, particularly when you're talking about anybody

2605
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:09,320
Speaker 1: who's going to be catching the ball, whether it be

2606
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: tight ends, wide receivers or running backs. If they don't

2607
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:17,680
Speaker 1: have the guys around him that allow him to complete

2608
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 1: those pass or can't execute those passes or protect him

2609
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:25,200
Speaker 1: in the midst of all that, then they're not going

2610
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:27,560
Speaker 1: to run them. And there's our pos That's a good

2611
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:29,840
Speaker 1: question because it does give you the run pass option.

2612
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:32,880
Speaker 1: I think they're what they do is if they give

2613
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:36,600
Speaker 1: them run pass options. I think that asks him to

2614
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 1: do something other than what an NFL quarterback what you

2615
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:43,040
Speaker 1: want them to do. You don't. Your quarterback shouldn't have

2616
02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:45,000
Speaker 1: run pass option. You want them to drop back and

2617
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 1: throw from the pocket. Run pass options, while they're good

2618
02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 1: and they're effective, if you run your offense around them,

2619
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:54,400
Speaker 1: you're you're not going to have a quarterback that can

2620
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 1: learns to stand in the pocket, read a defense, and

2621
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 1: throw it. So yeah, believe me, I'm not one that

2622
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:04,680
Speaker 1: really spends a lot of time thinking about play calls.

2623
02:05:04,760 --> 02:05:06,560
Speaker 1: I know what goes into putting in a game plan.

2624
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 1: I know what goes into putting a play sheet together.

2625
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:11,320
Speaker 1: I've seen guys do it, and I've seen them hash

2626
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:13,680
Speaker 1: through why plays are called here and why plays are

2627
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:16,120
Speaker 1: not called there, what type of plays they've got in

2628
02:05:16,160 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 1: the game plan. A lot of it has to do

2629
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:19,040
Speaker 1: with the guys you've got, As I've been saying, it

2630
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:20,960
Speaker 1: also has to do with the defenses that you're playing

2631
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:23,640
Speaker 1: and what they're susceptible to. I think all that goes it.

2632
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:26,240
Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in the play calls. They're given

2633
02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 1: these guys that plays that they think are going to

2634
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 1: work against the defense they're playing that day. So don't

2635
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:33,360
Speaker 1: get caught up that we don't have any RPOs or

2636
02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:36,960
Speaker 1: we don't run screen passes, or we don't we don't

2637
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 1: drop back and throw the ball down the field. They're

2638
02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 1: given guys the plays that are allowing those guys to

2639
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 1: be successful on that particular play, and that's what goes

2640
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:49,240
Speaker 1: into it. So believe me, when things change around Josh Allen,

2641
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:52,040
Speaker 1: the play selection will too. And when Josh Allen develops,

2642
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:54,240
Speaker 1: the play selection will change as well. Having a good

2643
02:05:54,280 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 1: discussion about Josh Allen asking you why you think he

2644
02:05:56,800 --> 02:05:59,120
Speaker 1: runs as often as he does, but change the topic

2645
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, Steve. This came up two days ago

2646
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 1: on the show the result of a comment that Leslie Frasier,

2647
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:07,520
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, made on Monday meeting with the media.

2648
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 1: He was asked about Tremaine Edmonds and now he's progressing

2649
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,800
Speaker 1: as a leader coach. Frasier, defensive coordinator, mentioned that just

2650
02:06:14,040 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 1: last week Kyle Williams went to him, the defensive coordinator,

2651
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 1: and said, hey, that players only meeting we have Thursday

2652
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:23,120
Speaker 1: afternoons the defense. I want to let Tremaine Edmonds lead

2653
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 1: it this week, which was pretty amazing. We talked about

2654
02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 1: it on the show, so Kyle was asked about it

2655
02:06:27,600 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 1: yesterday about his motivation for letting Tremaine Edmonds be the

2656
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 1: man behind the defensive team meeting the players only defensive

2657
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 1: team meeting last week. Here's what Kyle Williams had to say.

2658
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 1: He's in a natural position where, you know, in a

2659
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:45,240
Speaker 1: perfect world, if you're a head coach, Jim whoever, you

2660
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 1: want that guy to be a leader of your football team.

2661
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that's going to be the

2662
02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:51,200
Speaker 1: head of communication for the front, the middle, and the

2663
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:54,280
Speaker 1: back of our defense. You know, he is a guy

2664
02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:57,080
Speaker 1: that you know, displays the right habits. He works hard,

2665
02:06:57,120 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 1: he plays hard, he does the right things. He wants

2666
02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:01,640
Speaker 1: to be better at everything. And it was something where

2667
02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, I want to help continue to help him

2668
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 1: to grow. I want him to I want Tremaine to

2669
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 1: be as good a football player as I think he

2670
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: wants to be. And you know, I think it's a

2671
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:11,680
Speaker 1: big step for him. I went to him and said, hey, listen,

2672
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 1: you know I've been doing this for a long time.

2673
02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 1: Um you know, I look at you. I see somebody

2674
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:18,560
Speaker 1: that's gonna, in my opinion, is going to be a

2675
02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 1: cornerstone here for a long time, and you play a

2676
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:23,400
Speaker 1: mic position where you know you need to at the

2677
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:24,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, you need to be the bell cow.

2678
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:27,280
Speaker 1: So let's get this started early. I'll help you. He

2679
02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:30,720
Speaker 1: did a great job. He's quiet with us. How is

2680
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 1: he with you or coming to you for with questions? No,

2681
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:37,320
Speaker 1: he's great. He's great with questions. He's great with communication

2682
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 1: with us. And you know, I think that's one of

2683
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 1: the great things about him. You know he can he

2684
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:43,720
Speaker 1: lives by the you know less as more, which isn't

2685
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:47,400
Speaker 1: always a bad thing with you. Guys were talking about

2686
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:50,040
Speaker 1: this the other day though, um and I think it

2687
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:53,160
Speaker 1: was characterized Steve as the ceremonial kind of passing to

2688
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 1: a torch defensive leadership from Kyle Williams to the rookie

2689
02:07:56,360 --> 02:07:58,520
Speaker 1: tremine Edmonds. You know what it kind of is, that,

2690
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:02,800
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's absolutely that you can't say, and we've

2691
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:04,680
Speaker 1: all seen it here in Buffalo on a number of occaions,

2692
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:06,840
Speaker 1: I think over the last few years, particularly when Sean

2693
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:11,440
Speaker 1: McDermott took over and having him bring in the right

2694
02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 1: kind of guys in Foster and an atmosphere where there

2695
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:17,280
Speaker 1: are some real leaders who are gifted at it, and

2696
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:18,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams is one of them. And I think this

2697
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:21,640
Speaker 1: is another instance where you just got to sit back

2698
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:26,200
Speaker 1: and say, you know, this organization has some pretty stellar

2699
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 1: human beings involved in it, and Kyle's one of them.

2700
02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 1: And the fact that he knew enough to be a

2701
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 1: leader enough to say, listen, it's time for you to

2702
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 1: grow up a little bit and I'm going to give

2703
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:38,520
Speaker 1: you a chance and help you do that. I can't

2704
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:40,800
Speaker 1: say enough about what that means to a young player

2705
02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:42,520
Speaker 1: to have a guy do that. Think about what that

2706
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:45,280
Speaker 1: made Tremaine Edmonds feel like to have a guy of

2707
02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:47,640
Speaker 1: Kyle's stature come to him and say, Okay, here's something

2708
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 1: for you to do, and we're gonna do it, and

2709
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:53,240
Speaker 1: they did it together outstanding. You can't say enough about it.

2710
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 1: It's a monumental thing that comes across as being very subtle.

2711
02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 1: For all of us we don't understand. But for that,

2712
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:03,240
Speaker 1: for a guy like Tremaine Edmonds and for a guy

2713
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:07,440
Speaker 1: like Kyle Williams, that's something that they're gonna have between

2714
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 1: them for the rest of their lives. I'm telling you,

2715
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:12,240
Speaker 1: it's that It's that goes that deep and I'm it's

2716
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:15,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty significant. Tremaine Edmonds was asked about it in

2717
02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 1: the locker room as well, his thoughts and Kyle Williams

2718
02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:21,640
Speaker 1: asking him to take over leadership of the players only

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Speaker 1: defensive team meeting last week here here he is, I

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Speaker 1: felt good and I felt comfortable in there. Uh. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know those are my brothers. Man. We've been at

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Speaker 1: it all year together, so uh we got that connection now, man,

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Speaker 1: So you know I felt comfortable up there. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to him every day at practice, so I mean there's

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Speaker 1: really no difference, uh, you know going in there and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, just leading the leading the meet. There's got

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Speaker 1: one more thing to say about this, Steve. I do

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Speaker 1: think it's significant. If anybody had any doubt about where

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Speaker 1: this team is at, and yes they're four and nine,

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Speaker 1: it's it's you know, they lose two plus games for

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Speaker 1: every time they win, and that's disappointing. It's been rough,

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Speaker 1: but there are there's still stuff going on. Here's what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. That's a big one right there.

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Speaker 1: Josh Anna's development. We talk about that all the time,

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Speaker 1: but that's a big development there. There's still important things

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Speaker 1: taking place on this team that will I think be

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Speaker 1: paid dividends down the road, including next year. And that's

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Speaker 1: one of them. Exactly right. You can't say it enough though,

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Speaker 1: that right there is an example of the growth that

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Speaker 1: is happening in the midst of a season that's been disappointing.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a break. We're gonna come back.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, John Murphy, One Bills Live from One Bill's Driving.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. We'll signed down for what

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Speaker 1: I think we've had a good show. Telling myself that

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Speaker 1: we've had a good saying it's been good, keep saying

2750
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Speaker 1: that people will believe it. Chris Burke joined us earlier

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Speaker 1: today from the Athletic dot Com in Detroit, covers the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. He talked to us about Matthew Stafford, Lions quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and the Detroit Lions offense. Here's what he said. Last year,

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Speaker 1: he was one of the most effective deep throwers in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and this year that's really not in their

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Speaker 1: game at all. He might take one or two shots

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Speaker 1: per game right now to Kenny Galladay, but that's about it.

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Speaker 1: They haven't found anyone at tight end to stretch the

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Speaker 1: field and they just kind of took that out of

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Speaker 1: their game plan for whatever reason. So there's been really

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Speaker 1: a fundamental change in the approach offensively, and again, I

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Speaker 1: think that's something they've got to figure out this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's a scheme situation or you know, he just

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Speaker 1: had a bad year mentally or whatever. They've got to

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Speaker 1: get that settled. Inter sing take from Chris Burke. Also

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Speaker 1: on the show today, Bills linebacker Dion Lacey Special Team

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Speaker 1: or Bill's linebacker Dan Lacey. He spent three years in

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Speaker 1: the Canadian Football League before he made it to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Signed down with the Bills about a year and a

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Speaker 1: half ago. We asked on Lacey what being in the

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Speaker 1: Canadian Football League taught him, and I had helped him

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Being with Eskimos really taught me how

2773
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Speaker 1: to be a pro because coming you know, from UH

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Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. I was at home for a little

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Speaker 1: while and you know, hanging out and not really you know,

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Speaker 1: playing ball like I was normally used to doing. And

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Speaker 1: I was kind of wild, and I got back into it,

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Speaker 1: you know, with my attitude and knowing how to like

2779
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Speaker 1: come back down and you know what saying, respect the game,

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Speaker 1: how it should be played. And and I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: Coach Jones up there with m Eskimos there, you gonna

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Speaker 1: Dean Lacey, We thank Giffortunia. Still waiting for the injury

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Speaker 1: report from today's practice, kind of want to curious about

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Speaker 1: the status of do that on purpose? Yeah about three

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Speaker 1: old one. Yeah, it'll come out three o one right

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Speaker 1: after we get off the air, we'll be able to

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Speaker 1: find out. Well, we'll step out the door and yell it.

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Speaker 1: Just because of shady Chris Brown said that McCoy was

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Speaker 1: that practice looked like he'd been participating on a limited basis,

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Speaker 1: but no confirmation to that you're not practicing all yesterday

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Speaker 1: with a hamstring. And that really is the bit of

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Speaker 1: news that could come out of today's practice session. Watching

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Speaker 1: for it. We'll get it soon enough. We'll tell you tomorrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're on tomorrow with noon It's our Friday show with Lorenzo, Alexander,

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Speaker 1: Mark kelso U and Great Cosell. Should be a good

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Speaker 1: show tomorrow, always is. Yeah, always look forward to. By

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Speaker 1: the way, wait yeah yeah. Just for the kids out there,

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Speaker 1: Murph and I do like each other. We had a

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Speaker 1: couple of arguments today about I don't I don't even recall.

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Speaker 1: Those are production assistance from George Blast, Jeff Colton, Like

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Speaker 1: Thomas honald Er, Kelly Rude, JJ Turto, Kevin Cardis, James Robot,

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Speaker 1: our producer Jay Harris. We're back tomorrow, twelve noon to

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