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Speaker 1: Has a league fifteen to ten touched up, Sucker.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Guys? Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weeklies,

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Speaker 3: as always, joined by Matt Buddy Smith.

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Speaker 2: The super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Is in the books. We'll talk about the Chiefs repeating

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Speaker 3: his champs. Obviously give us some draft stuff, But Buddy,

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Speaker 3: I figured we'd start with just the staff coming together.

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Speaker 3: Jim Harball is one thing, but to put together an

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Speaker 3: elite staff is another.

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Speaker 2: And he's certainly done that over the last couple.

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Speaker 1: Of weeks, no doubt. You know when he was hired

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Speaker 1: and when when Joe Artiez was hired, they said, first

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Speaker 1: thing is staff. That that they got to get moving

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Speaker 1: and get this staff put together. That way you can

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Speaker 1: dig into the roster and figure out, you know what

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Speaker 1: this roster is going to look like. We have a

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Speaker 1: lot of free agent situations surrounding individual players. You have

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Speaker 1: contracts that'll need to be restructured. And as much as

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh is going to be that the prime force

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Speaker 1: in figuring out you know how he wants all of

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Speaker 1: you know, and just as I'm looking at it, you know,

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Speaker 1: if Greg Roman, Greg nobody's better at doing run game

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Speaker 1: than you. How do you feel about Austin ECKLERG do

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Speaker 1: we need to figure this out? What about Joshua Kelly?

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Speaker 1: What about Isaiah Spiller? And that of course is going

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Speaker 1: looking at Blake corm or Jonathan Brooks in the draft.

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Speaker 1: So when you start to bring you know, Mike Elson

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Speaker 1: many of these guys are with them at Michigan, so

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Speaker 1: you know there's going to be continuity, right, There's really

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Speaker 1: not a lot of variety or you know, adjustment that's

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Speaker 1: going to be that's going to be made. Greg Roman

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Speaker 1: with him forever in San Francisco and Stanford they bringing

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Speaker 1: Marcus Brady as their passing game coordinator. You know Sanjay

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Speaker 1: you think about how raw he was and what was

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Speaker 1: he's going to now have these conversation and I just

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Speaker 1: with Sanjay to talk about Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, Joey Boson,

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Speaker 1: all of those those pieces in place, you can have

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Speaker 1: this group conversation with Joe Hortiz. Okay, we know you

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Speaker 1: need to put this puzzle together. You've got to make

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Speaker 1: the money work, You've got to make the contracts work.

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Speaker 1: These are the draft picks we have. Here's the coaches.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be coaching these guys up positionally where

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Speaker 1: we at. So that's that's why it's important. And I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of the names probably aren't familiar to

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Speaker 1: Chargers fans. But do some digging, you know, do yourself

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Speaker 1: a favor and dig around, because you're going to find out.

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Speaker 1: They put together one of the most impressive staffs of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they also added Mark Trestman, a former head coach,

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Speaker 3: to help on the offensive side. And I want to

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Speaker 3: dig into Greg Roman a little bit because historically his

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Speaker 3: good thing when you bring in somebody who's going to

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Speaker 3: establish an identity of running the football, because one thing

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've been among the worst in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think Great Roman has had a player

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Speaker 1: So you know, hold on, Chris, I'll hold you there.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. Think about how run dominant those Stanford teams

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Speaker 2: And I was talking at NFL. I was talking to NFL, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like that's I want people to visualize that. Like, think

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Speaker 1: So I think that's like, that's the first thing I

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Speaker 3: I do think having Greg Roman as the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: someone who has more options and doesn't have to feel

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Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent. And you know, I think the

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Speaker 1: other thing to recognize is, you know, with everyone as

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Speaker 1: I bring that up because look, that's that's what this

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Speaker 1: line specific, defensive line, offensive line. So when you're talking

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Speaker 1: I just think those two specific position groups talk about

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Speaker 1: like how they're going to populate it, right, Like what

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Speaker 3: What I love about what Jim Harball's doing too, is

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Speaker 3: I mean, you nailed it with Dick Hardwick about his

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Speaker 3: we'll see what happens with Kendricks and Murray, but just

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Speaker 2: I just think it's a nice melt.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. And and look, that's that's what those Stansford

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Speaker 1: see him. It sounds stupid, but that dude's going to

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Speaker 1: it up like six hundred times. Like he's so incredibly strong.

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's a wide receiver. Now you're not your corner,

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Speaker 1: and that's the sort of thing that that Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 3: And it's just another example of what you were saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: Sure, And I think when you look into positional value,

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Speaker 1: There's some people saying that maybe Marvin Harrison isn't going

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Speaker 1: it's a race to get McCarthy. If that many teams

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Speaker 1: And not to mention the interviews when you hear about

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Speaker 1: you can get that haul that Joe Ortiez is looking

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Speaker 3: That's why the combine is going to be so important,

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen. Like Chicago, they either need to

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Speaker 3: and the Patriots in a quarterback too. They know that

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Speaker 3: it gets interesting at four and five because if that's

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Speaker 2: In their lap.

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Speaker 3: If they wont like that, that's gonna happen. And it

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Speaker 3: just depends on Okay, do we would we rather pair

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Speaker 3: you're either gonna get a blue chipper or you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Right, They're going to be in a position to draft

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Speaker 2: I hate it.

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Speaker 3: Rupt but you you had an interview with Ryan Leaf

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Speaker 1: But I kind of strayed there because I was getting

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Speaker 1: thing that can change, can change draft order, can change this,

433
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Speaker 1: and that's one of the reasons why Justin Herbert, who

434
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Speaker 1: took a lot of incoming prior to the combine, when

435
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Speaker 1: that dude stepped on that field at the combine and

436
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: kind of settled down after those first couple throws, he

437
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: just he lit it up and everybody walked out going, Okay,

438
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Speaker 1: we do have three first round quarterbacks and it's not

439
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Speaker 1: even close that these three guys are going to be

440
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Speaker 1: drafted immediately to Herbert and Joe Burrow. And and that

441
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Speaker 1: was something that I felt happened at the combine. You

442
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Speaker 1: could just you could see it. The guy's arm was incredible,

443
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Speaker 1: and his stature was incredible. When he was standing out there.

444
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Speaker 1: You could see him standing next to the other quarterbacks

445
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Speaker 1: and just dwarfing them in terms of his his his height,

446
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Speaker 1: and his and his weight. So these things can change.

447
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Speaker 1: But I don't even know where I started. Oh, but

448
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Speaker 1: it's so yeah, this is where I'm going. Sorry, I'm

449
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 1: a lot of my train of thought. To Ryan Lee's point,

450
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Speaker 1: we just had this. We just had this conversation four

451
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Speaker 1: years ago with the Bengals. What do they do? Do

452
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Speaker 1: you take Penny Seool and protect Joe Burrow or do

453
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Speaker 1: you take the weapon and Jamar Chase and that protects

454
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. What's the best way to go about it?

455
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Speaker 1: And I think if you had an opportunity to ask

456
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Speaker 1: the Bengals for a do over, knowing that Penny Seol

457
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Speaker 1: has become an All Pro tackle. Would you do it

458
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Speaker 1: any differently? I don't think they would. I think they

459
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Speaker 1: got Super Bowl. Yeah, we're good. We're good taking the weapon.

460
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Speaker 1: So it's important to remember that that that that this team,

461
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Speaker 1: which had an abomination of an offensive line, had a

462
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Speaker 1: chance to take an all Pro tackle projected to be

463
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Speaker 1: an all Pro tackle, and they opted to go playmaker

464
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Speaker 1: and it worked out.

465
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't think there's a wrong end.

466
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Speaker 3: I mean, and for the case of the Lions, right,

467
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Speaker 3: they got they got their all pro lockdown tackle and

468
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Speaker 3: went to an NFC Championship game. They're all the way

469
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Speaker 3: back now, their Super Bowl contenders here, probably for the

470
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Speaker 3: next few years and maybe beyond that. One of the

471
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Speaker 3: things that I think Michael Lombardi said about a month

472
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Speaker 3: or two ago that stuck with me was, you know,

473
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Speaker 3: we see all these mock drafts in like late December,

474
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Speaker 3: early January, and it's amazing how quickly they change once

475
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Speaker 3: we get to the combine, because actually that's when NFL

476
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Speaker 3: evaluators are actually doing the evaluations, and they hear things

477
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Speaker 3: and then some of the guys that you think are

478
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Speaker 3: top five picks are really like top fifteen picks and

479
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: some of the quarterbacks that you don't think our first

480
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Speaker 3: rounders could be top ten or top twelve picks based

481
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Speaker 3: on some of the evaluations. And maybe that's something that

482
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Speaker 3: we're seeing with JJ McCarthy. Maybe that's something that you know,

483
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Speaker 3: like the medical for Michael Panics is going to be

484
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Speaker 3: paramount at the combine.

485
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Speaker 2: Bow Nix has a lot of starts under his belt

486
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Speaker 2: in college football.

487
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Speaker 3: Is that enough for a team to say, Hey, I

488
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Speaker 3: think that this guy could be a starting quarterback in

489
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Speaker 3: the NFL? So like I also I bring this point

490
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Speaker 3: to to the AFC West and the Broncos and the Raiders,

491
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Speaker 3: Like I feel like one of those teams or maybe

492
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Speaker 3: both of those teams are going to try to trade

493
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Speaker 3: up now. I especially past years, I think we've seen

494
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,239
Speaker 3: like teams within their own division make trades with each other,

495
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: which is very rare, Like I think the Giants and

496
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: Eagles were making trades and stuff like do you trade

497
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Speaker 3: with a division arrival?

498
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Speaker 2: Does it matter? Or you know you know why they're

499
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Speaker 2: moving up? Right?

500
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Speaker 3: Like so I guess I guess all that factors in

501
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Speaker 3: if there's another team, maybe an NFC team that wants

502
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Speaker 3: wants the trade, but maybe the package is and it's fruitful.

503
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Speaker 2: Do you take it? Because it's an NFC team, I mean,

504
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of little factors here.

505
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Speaker 1: I would assume it's it's independent, completely independent of the team. Now,

506
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: if they're coming up to get JJ McCarthy and Jim

507
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: Harbos like absolutely not, Ye do not trust me. This

508
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: guy is going to be a franchise quarterback. You are

509
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Speaker 1: not trading him to You are not trading with the

510
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Speaker 1: Broncos and the Raiders, then I could see that certainly.

511
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Speaker 1: But if they're saying, well, the Raiders are giving us

512
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Speaker 1: a one, a two, next year's one and a fool, Okay,

513
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Speaker 1: let's go get it. We need the picks, and we

514
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Speaker 1: we have seventeen first round grades on seventeen players, and

515
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Speaker 1: at thirteen we're gonna be able to get one of

516
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Speaker 1: our first round graded players, so we're good. And on

517
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Speaker 1: top of that, now we've got two twos. Maybe it's

518
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Speaker 1: a three as well. You know what, you know, the

519
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: Broncos don't have a two, so that to me, that

520
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Speaker 1: takes them out of the mix. I would assume the

521
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Speaker 1: Chargers would be more interested in trying to get this

522
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Speaker 1: thing stocked this year as opposed to taking their twenty

523
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Speaker 1: twenty five to one, twenty twenty five to three and

524
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Speaker 1: a three this something like that. I would suspect they

525
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Speaker 1: would prefer if they're trading back that far. If they're

526
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Speaker 1: going from five to twelve or thirteen, you're getting a

527
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Speaker 1: one next year first year, and I would guess they'd

528
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Speaker 1: want a two this year as well, so you get

529
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Speaker 1: the one, the two this year, and probably a four

530
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Speaker 1: something along those lines. I don't have the Jimmy Johnson

531
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Speaker 1: Shart in front of me to equate it what the

532
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Speaker 1: five is worth, but it would lead me to believe

533
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Speaker 1: you're getting a one next year and probably a two

534
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Speaker 1: or a three this year, so you'd want that extra

535
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Speaker 1: top one hunter pick, And to me, I don't. I

536
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: think it would completely depend because it's going to be McCarthy.

537
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Speaker 1: That's who we're talking about. That's what makes it interesting

538
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: is it's just does does Jim Harball really put his

539
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: money where his mouth is and say no, you are

540
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: not trading in the division. And to me, if that's

541
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Speaker 1: the case, if he has thought, if the two teams

542
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Speaker 1: are willing to come up to get him, then you're

543
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: probably going to have a similar evaluation from the Vikings

544
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Speaker 1: and the Falcons and the Giants and those other teams

545
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Speaker 1: that very well could be looking as well. And I

546
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Speaker 1: would imagine you might be able to trade back a

547
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Speaker 1: little bit closer to where the blue chip players are

548
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: still get Terry and Arnold, you know, Fuaga, something along

549
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: those lines, Vashanu like that that sort of tackle corner

550
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: something brock Bowers, if you can, you know that that's

551
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: where it ends up at thirteen or something. And now

552
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Speaker 1: it makes sense that's maybe you know what you're talking

553
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Speaker 1: what you're speaking to, Chris.

554
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: You know what else is interesting?

555
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: Like so Antonio appears he was on the Pivot, the

556
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: podcast with the Ryan Clark and he said something to

557
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: the effect of everybody has a price, you know. Like

558
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels, for instance, was with him at Arizona State.

559
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: He's a Sam Bernardino kid. Like, we don't know the

560
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: mindset of the commanders in the Patriots. We know that

561
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: they need quarterbacks, but we know that Adam Peters probably

562
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: wants as many picks as possible to rebuild that roster.

563
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: We know New England probably wants as many picks as

564
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: possible in addition to a quarterback, so they could blow

565
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: the Commanders or the Patriots away with a deal that's like, okay, well, shoot,

566
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Speaker 3: we cannot pass this up because we're gonna get multiple

567
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: first and you know, the Commanders.

568
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: Already have five picks on the top one hundred.

569
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Speaker 3: If they can get two or three more, it's like,

570
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: oh God, we're going to set up our franchise for

571
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: success for a long time. So you just wonder about

572
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: the wild cards there, Like, I know that the Commanders

573
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: and Patriots need a quarterback. In the top three are

574
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: going to be quarterbacks. But who's to say some team

575
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: doesn't come out of nowhere like the Raiders and say

576
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Speaker 3: this is the missing piece to our team. We're gonna

577
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: be tough, we're gonna be physical, but we need a quarterback.

578
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: We know that Tom Telesco has had a history of

579
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: drafting quarterbacks. I don't know how much ammunition is needed

580
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: for the ability to move to two or three, but

581
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: I just I look at it from just the AFC

582
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: West perspective. With Mahomes and Herbert already in the division,

583
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders and the Broncos realize that they

584
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: can't compete unless they have a franchise guy.

585
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Speaker 1: So the thing that's important for this exercise is that

586
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: you have to look to the next year. We knew

587
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: last year was not going to be a good quarterback draft.

588
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: That's what it was thought to be. Now CJ. Stroud

589
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: turned out to be incredible, but it was not thought

590
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: to be a good quarterback draft. And it wasn't year

591
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: before not a good quarterback draft. Everybody pointed to this year.

592
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: This year is going to be a good you can

593
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: get your elite Caleb Williams, Drake May. Now Jaden Daniels

594
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: worked himself into that conversation with what he did this

595
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: past season. He wasn't thought to be in that commerce.

596
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: It was May Williams and then there was a gap.

597
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: But everybody felt good about bo Nicks, about Penix with

598
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: the medical if it checked out, Okay, about JJ McCarthy.

599
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Those guys were already being mentioned as Okay, let's see

600
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: how this season goes for them, because they could work

601
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: their way. I am not hearing any of that for

602
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: next year. So that's the trick is if you are

603
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: sitting there at number two and you're staring at Drake

604
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: May and Jade Daniels three at Drake may or. Jaden Daniels,

605
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: I think you're probably gonna stick and pick now with Jayden.

606
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: And I talked to one of his former coaches during

607
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: the season and he said, Combine's going to be interesting

608
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: because people are going to stand next to him and

609
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: they're going to be like, whoa he is? He is

610
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: a string being he and that's what you need to

611
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: be worried about. And that's so that's going to be

612
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: interesting is when people get next to Jadeen Daniels and

613
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: recognize how thin he is and he I think. I

614
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: think I read somewhere that he was going to come

615
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: in over two hundred and five pounds, and I was like,

616
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: I want to see that that that'll be interesting because

617
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that's gonna get put together. So that's

618
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: that's something they can change. They can change things, But

619
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Speaker 1: to me, he's incredible. Go back and watch Jaydon daniels

620
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: highlights and it's it's something to watch. And remember he

621
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: took a beating in the SEC, so that's where it

622
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: balances out. He's thin, that's a little bit of a concern,

623
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Speaker 1: but he was not afraid to run. He was not

624
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: afraid to take on contact, and he bounced right back

625
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: up after getting absolutely blown off the frame because some

626
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: giant SEC defender was the one making the tackle. So

627
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Speaker 1: that's the reason why I'd be very, very surprised if

628
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: those three teams did not draft quarterbacks. It just makes

629
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Speaker 1: these these guys are too good, They are way too

630
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: good and too promising of prospects to not want it

631
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: to not want to take one of them.

632
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if you have convision, you got to take.

633
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: I mean they brought in Cliff Kingsbury for a reason, right,

634
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: like right, he has a relationship with Caleb Williams. I

635
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: think Jayden Daniels would would be able to run his

636
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: system through a t I think he has a connection

637
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: to Drake May too. So it's like all three of

638
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: those guys, you know, if you draft one of them,

639
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: that could be your franchise guy.

640
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: And they already passed on Justin Herbert to take Chase Young.

641
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: They can't afford to do it again. They they've they've

642
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: got to get their core. They have not had a

643
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: quarterback in decades, like they've got to her since Robert

644
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: Griffin before he got hurt. And obviously Kirk Cousins was

645
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise. The way he emerged. But think about

646
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: the electricity in that city on that team when Griffin

647
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: at number two turned out to be everything he thought

648
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: he was going to be, Like they they need to

649
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: get that back. And Jayden Daniels to me, seems to

650
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: be the perfect person. Or Drake May because he's from

651
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: the you know, because he's he's from that general area

652
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: as well. It's also incredibly exciting.

653
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

654
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: I was at the first Robert Griffin the thirds first

655
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: game in New Orleans and you know, he's he was

656
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: from New Orleans and just it was like a video

657
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: game the way that Kyle Shanahan and Mike Shanahan used

658
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: him and really started like the zone read.

659
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: That's when the zone read started. And then Russell Wilson.

660
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: Was at Draft Plass and Colin Kaepernick started doing it,

661
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: and you know with Jim Marball, you know, so you know,

662
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: there you go. I like, I just love the possibilities

663
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: of the offense with Justin too. If we're bringing it

664
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: back to the Chargers, like you know, the good thing is,

665
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: man the charge, you can take a breath, like you've

666
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: got a franchise guy, Like that's that's the most important

667
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: thing here. So it's just a matter of you know,

668
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: do you get justin a weapon, do you get on

669
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: a right tackle? Do you beef up the defense? And

670
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of possibilities their money.

671
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: For me, it's and it's something that we talked about

672
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: last year going into the draft. Offense offense, offense, offense, offense, offense,

673
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: because you just you've got to make sure you continue

674
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: to support develop And yes, Herbert's still developing. He's oh

675
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: he's twenty five, twenty six, like they're still room to grow. Oh,

676
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: you've got to do everything you've popp And here's the

677
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: other thing, and I know they've they've said we expect

678
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: to compete every year. And I understand that the amount

679
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: of money you're spending on this coaching staff, the amount

680
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: of money you're going to spend on the roster, on

681
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: the facility. Yeah, you want to win. You don't want

682
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: to be a seven and ten team because you've got

683
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: to restructure and rebuild it. No, you want to be

684
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: a ten and seven team, or an eleven and six team,

685
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: or a twelve and five team, and you want to

686
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: punch your ticket to the tournament. But to me, I've

687
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: got this new head coach got all this excitement. What's

688
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: what's more exciting than Justin Herbert in offense? Like, I

689
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: get it. You want to you want to grind it out,

690
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: and you want to draft a bunch of defensive players.

691
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: And look, we fix the run d and now we're

692
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: we're keeping opponents. We're not dead last and all these

693
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 1: different categories. Okay, that's that's cool. I'm glad you fixed

694
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: the DAL or fix the old line. Justin Herbert's back

695
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: to throwing for forty seven hundred yards and thirty five

696
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns and we've got these explosive playmakers. And check out

697
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: this new running back week in the second round. And

698
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, what what's gonna move

699
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: the needle? What's gonna get people excited more? And I

700
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: know you don't do it for the fans, but I'm

701
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: simply saying, if presented with two options, it's it's not

702
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: even it's at the scales tips so heavily in favor

703
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: of the offense because of what it means to the brand,

704
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: what it means to your superstar, what it means to

705
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: the fans that want to believe. Okay, here we go.

706
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is gonna have the same offensive system now

707
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: because the head coach is offensive minded and we're not

708
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna lose offensive coordinators. And and finally some continuity for like,

709
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: that's the thing about people taking shots at at Herbert

710
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: and why is he not? Is is Jordan Love now

711
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: surpassing justin Herbert? Jordan Love had a great season, no

712
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 1: doubt about it. He's been sitting and watching for four

713
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: years and and he's it's the same system. It's Matt

714
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: LeFleur who's calling the plays. Patrick Malmes has had Andy

715
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: Reid his entire career, and he is he had an

716
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: opportunity to sit for a year and watch and learn

717
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: from Alex Smith. Like it hasn't changed. It's just the

718
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: two of them doing the exact same thing for six years.

719
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: So it should look like that Joe Burrow Zach Taylor

720
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: have been doing the same and Brian Callahan the exact

721
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: same thing for four years. So you finally are going

722
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: to get this continuity for Herbert, And to me, I

723
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: would want to do everything. However, the whatever the approach is,

724
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: if it's tackle in the first round, center in the

725
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: second round, tight end in the third round, that's fine.

726
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: If you want to just fix the line, and you

727
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 1: feel like with Quinton and Josh Palmer and Keenan Allen,

728
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: you've got enough. To me, that's enough. I'm fine with that.

729
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: If those are the receivers you're going into the season with,

730
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: and you can get those three and then maybe find

731
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: somebody with some serious speed in the third or the

732
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: fourth something like that that you can develop. Great, that's

733
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: like to me that that works, totally works, And that's

734
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: probably as opposed to you need a corner, You need

735
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: interior Lignement, Terry and Arnold in the one, Chris Jenkins

736
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: in the second round, Like, Okay, I get it too,

737
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: but that doesn't get me as excited now I would

738
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: love it, because god knows, we haven't drafted a corner

739
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: since I've been here. They have not drafted a corner

740
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: in the top two three rounds. A second round for

741
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: a sante in the second round was the only one like.

742
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: Was Verrett, Like it was Tom's first pick was Verrett right.

743
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: Ten years ago? Like that, you need every single draft,

744
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: Like if I were running a draft, every single draft,

745
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: I am taking a corner and an offensive lineman with

746
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: my first three picks. First three picks. One of those

747
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: three I am taking an offensive lineman or a corner

748
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: you just you have to. They're so expensive, they're so

749
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: hard to find, they're so important. Like that's that's something

750
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: that that I would like to see moving forward, is

751
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: you've got to make sure those positions are constantly stacked

752
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: because they're just so darn important in the NFL.

753
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: Right now, Yeah, I'm confident. Just let Joe do his thing, right,

754
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: he's he's he's seen it, he's done it. He's got

755
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: a lot to work with, and whatever he decides to

756
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 3: do with that fifth pick, I think will be obviously

757
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: in the best interest of the Chargers. So let Joe cook, right,

758
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: that should be we should get out on a T shirt.

759
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: You know, another thing that I didn't mentioned about the

760
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: coaching staff that you mentioned continuity. Just getting Shane Day

761
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 3: back I think is big, you know. Yeah, for Justin,

762
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: I think that that's a you know, because he's had

763
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: so much change and turn over year after year after year,

764
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: that getting somebody who he had a good relationship with

765
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: and is familiar with get him back in the building. Like,

766
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: I just think that that's another thing that shouldn't be overstated.

767
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: You know, we mentioned all these guys. But getting Shane

768
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: Day back in the mix, especially the year that he

769
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: had in Houston with CJ. Stroud and what they were

770
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: able to do offensively. You know, she's coming off a

771
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: pretty big off season.

772
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: He and Justin Thicke as thieves, loved each other. We'd

773
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: see him together all the time. I love Shane because

774
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: he's a flip flops guy. And maybe maybe he and

775
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: I together can lobby coach and say, listen, flip flops

776
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: on the plane, just asking, just asking. There was only

777
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: one line Brandon Staley's travel itinerary when it came to

778
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: what you could and couldn't wear. That was it one.

779
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: No flip flops. And for Shane, for me, somebody who

780
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: wears pretty much only flip flops.

781
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: Or side, you could only wear flip flops.

782
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to wear, you can wear. I'm just saying,

783
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: and look, you want me, if you want me to

784
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: put socks on, socks and sandals, I'll get some slides

785
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: and I'll put a pair of socks on. That's fine. Yeah,

786
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: I got my feet. It's all I wear. So they've

787
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: spread out. They like flip flops, they like slides. That

788
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: would be just heaven for me. But Shane and Justin

789
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: hit it off. They were a it was a it

790
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: was a great partnership. And certainly to have somebody that

791
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: you have unwavering and implicit trust in in the quarterback room,

792
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: especially because we don't know what the future is going

793
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: to be for Easton and how important that partnership was

794
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: for those two salary caps tricky, and believe it or not,

795
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: when you start talking about veterans and two million dollars,

796
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: three million dollars, that becomes a bit of an issue

797
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: moving forward. So that'll be an interesting one. So to

798
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: get Shane back, I think is very It's a great point, Chris.

799
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: It's very important for for Justin's comfort as he transitions

800
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: to another new offensive system, his fourth in five years.

801
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: Money final thing, Let's let's talk about the super Bowl.

802
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: Excuse your thoughts on the game.

803
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: Hold on, Let's do a little Let's do one of

804
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: these real quick. You're ready, Yes, let's do what you want?

805
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: Do you want to do two round or three? Run?

806
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: Do three round? Yeah? Three three round? Pff. Let's see

807
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: draft for needs, we'll do a little bit more care

808
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: for positional value.

809
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

810
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: I think that that Hortt's is probably a positional value.

811
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: Guys talked about draft and defensive line and offensive line.

812
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: So we should do this at the end of every

813
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 2: podcast until the drafts.

814
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Moving forward, we'll do three rounds. So here

815
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: we go and we're off. So as we figured, the

816
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks went one, two through or actually no, look

817
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: at that, so it went Caleb, Drake, Malik, and Marvin.

818
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: So Jayden Daniels is still on, which is why we

819
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: have six trades available to us.

820
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go.

821
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: We have Atlanta, the Raiders, the Colts, the Texans, the Panthers,

822
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: and the Patriots all willing to trade up with us.

823
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: The Falcons are at eight, which I'm comfortable with, so

824
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: let's take We'll give them five. We'll take eight, we'll

825
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: take forty three, we'll take one two, and then we'll

826
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: go next year's Let's go next year's three, since we're

827
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: getting their second, their fifth, the number eight overall, to

828
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: go back three and we'll take a three.

829
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: L what's Carolina thinking, what's Indianapolis thinking?

830
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's I don't was it Carolina? I said, no,

831
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: it was Indianapolis. They probably want to jump up to

832
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: get I don't know it doesn't make any sense to me.

833
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: But let's just see if we can get this trade

834
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: to be accepted. And yes, it is all right. So

835
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: now we got eight forty three. What we got four

836
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: picks three this year for number five. Now move back

837
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: to eight and see this thing's too random. We still

838
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: have a Douonsay on the board. We still have Bowers

839
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: on the board. So we have Bowers a Donsay fuaga.

840
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: If we want to take the tackle out of Oregon State,

841
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: how about we go with Donsay. Let's go with all right,

842
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: Donsay's our guy. We get him at number eight. Now

843
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: we get to the second and we got two picks

844
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: thirty seven and forty three. We do have two trade offers.

845
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: We've got the Giants that are at thirty nine. We'd

846
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: only move back two spots, so we'll absolutely take that.

847
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: We'll give them thirty seven and we'll go ahead and

848
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: take pick let's say we'll take there. What can we do,

849
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: We'll take their one hundred and eight, we'll move back

850
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: to we'll take pick thirty seven, and then we'll take

851
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: pick oneh eight and we yep, and it's accepted. Bang,

852
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: we've added another pick. Here we go now we're thirty nine.

853
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: And watching.

854
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: Listen, this is gonna this is work. This thing's ridiculous,

855
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: by the way, there's no way it works out this way,

856
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: but whatever, let's enjoy it. So I'm looking at Zach

857
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: Frasier Center from West Virginia. Yeah, probably probably second best center,

858
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: or Chris Jenkins is there. So but here's the good news.

859
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: We still have pick forty three because of our first

860
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: trade down. So we've got do we take.

861
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: Who's he's more likely to go off the board?

862
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: I would think I would think that Jenkins is more

863
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: likely to go off the board. I think there's a

864
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: little bit more of a premium on defensive and interior

865
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: lineman than a center. Need Wise, I'd probably prefer to

866
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: take Fraser, but I'm guessing Jenkins won't be there at

867
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: forty three. Fraser very well could be. Okay, what do

868
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: you think. I'm leaving it up to you.

869
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: Let's throw the Michigan bias in there.

870
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: In right and get him. We'll take Jenkins and Fraser

871
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: still there. Here we go. So now we got Fraser,

872
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: and now we are back at pick number sixty nine,

873
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: and here's our Michigan bias again. Chris we got Junior

874
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: Colson sitting there. Somehow he's slid. One of the best

875
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: linebackers in the draft, the defensive captain, the straw that

876
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: stirred the defensive drink on the Wolverines. He's sitting there.

877
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: We already got our wide receiver in Roma. Dounon say,

878
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: so we're good there, Jalen Wright. The running back is there,

879
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: korm is gone, Brooks is gone in terms of running back.

880
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: So do you take another Michigan guy and Junior Colson?

881
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: To me, it makes sense pair him with Henley and

882
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: my gosh, talk about athletic linebackers.

883
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 3: Knows knows the system. A rookie that comes in knows

884
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: the system. You get to two defensive guys who know

885
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: Jesse Minner. You already have a potential starting center. You

886
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: have a playmaker and a Duneza to pair with Keenan

887
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 3: and Quintin or Mike or whoever.

888
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not?

889
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: All right, Junior Colson it is.

890
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 2: And so that's that's a nice company.

891
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: I mean, like, talk about it. And here we go.

892
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: We got ourselves an A from the PFF A dunsay

893
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: a plus at number seven. We got a B for

894
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: our trade with the Giants. Getting the one hundred and

895
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: eighth pick and the thirty ninth pick to go with

896
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: pick number eight. Jenkins, we get a B plus. Fraser,

897
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: they give us a B minus. Colson, they give us

898
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: an A minus overall grade. Bang A what a hall?

899
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: That would be no chance of that happening. But and

900
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: this is fairytale walking out of the first one hundred

901
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: picks with a Dounzay, Jenkins, Frasier and Colson. Home run,

902
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: freaking home run.

903
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: You know what, We're gonna see Joe at the combine

904
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: and you just, hey, Joe, you know what I did

905
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: this pff mock exercise.

906
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: Just want to run by you?

907
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: So you know what, We'll run one really with a

908
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: stick and pick. No Trasier, So let's just do it

909
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: a quick stick and pick because that was stupid. So

910
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: let's uh, here we go, stick and pick and number

911
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: five we got a shot at Joe alt Well, alt Adunza, Bowers,

912
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: Fishanu Fuaga, all of those are available to us.

913
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: So let's hey, did you see bowersticks to Gronk in

914
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: that picture?

915
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is not like people don't realize that Bowers

916
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: is not built like Gronk. He is a smaller guy.

917
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: He's just incredibly strong, incredibly athletic. You know that he's

918
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: he's a really just dense, muscled, incredibly strong human being.

919
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: But that's yeah, that's a little bit of a concern

920
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about, okay, can my tight end block

921
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: a defense of well, look, no tight en should have

922
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: be able to block a defenseman. But so that's so

923
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: to me, let's let's take all let's go with the

924
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: tackle here.

925
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: I think all it's good.

926
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: And see now we get to the pick thirty seven

927
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: and same to me, same situation. Right, We've got oh, well,

928
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: look at that Tyler Guiden is there. He slipped the

929
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: Oklahoma tackle, but you don't need him Freight. I think

930
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: we're looking at the same situation, right, Fraser or Jenkins?

931
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: Which one makes more sense? Do you just completely revamp

932
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line and now you're set with Slater, Zion Frasier,

933
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: you have Jamari inside or maybe you're looking for a

934
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: guard a little bit later, and you have alt as

935
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: your tackle, and now Pipkins can be your swing tackle

936
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: or Jamari can be your swing you know, you.

937
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: Know, I'm okay with Cohen unsexy here, right, just like

938
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: get getting center, I think is vital right.

939
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: We saw how important Corey Linsley was of this team.

940
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: Man, I think I think not messing around with that

941
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: position starting in twenty twenty four is probably the good

942
00:47:59,480 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: way go.

943
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 1: There we go. So then you get Fraser and now

944
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: very similar, very similar situation where you've got Junior Colson

945
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: sitting there at sixty nine. Who else is there is?

946
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: You know what? I do like Jayleen McMillan the wide

947
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: receiver out of Washington, Brennan Rice explosive receiver out of

948
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: sc So there's all. You know what, Austin Booker the

949
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: edge out of Kansas. He's going to have a really

950
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: good combine. You're going to see him climb, so you

951
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: could go defensive end there, pair him with Tuley.

952
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: I want to see Jerry Rice around so far, so

953
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: give me Brendan all right, you know, I.

954
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: Just want to I want to see I want Jerry

955
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 2: in the mix.

956
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: I want Jerry Gates lt All on the field before

957
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: the game bringing a Trojan B minus.

958
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: We got a B plus for the Joe altpick a

959
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: C minus. They don't like Fraser. I don't know if

960
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: that's because of the medical but by all accounts it

961
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: sounds like he's already over the broken leg, so I

962
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: don't know why that's getting such a bad a grade.

963
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: There C minus and then B plus for Brennan, So yeah,

964
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: there we go take it. Yeah, it's a blast. It

965
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: is an absolute blast doing this. It's it's hilarious. I

966
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: guys ended up wasting like forty five minutes before the

967
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: pod this morning, screwing.

968
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Around replying the comments.

969
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: If you think me and money should have a role

970
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: in personnel, it's twenty twenty four.

971
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: Let us know you pick of our picks.

972
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: Really just a couple of minutes on the Super Bowl,

973
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: like Mahomes did it again, Kelsey did it again.

974
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: They're running everybody back. Uh, but I love it.

975
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: I think that this is the this is going to

976
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: be a division where you know, everybody's just going to

977
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: crown the Chiefs, and you know deservedly so. And it's

978
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: it's just going to be musty football with with Peyton

979
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: Harborne reading the division. Man.

980
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure I say I frame

981
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: this the right way. Totally understand why you take Zion.

982
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: You've got Herbert, you want to protect him at all costs.

983
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: Tom came from Indianapolis, where Andrew Luck got his head

984
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: beat in because they did not have a good offensive line.

985
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: But this is where you hear the term positional value.

986
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: And I know where you're going because we talked about it.

987
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie is one of the best corners I had

988
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: seen in college football in a long, long time. And

989
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: that's what we were talking about, Like, you know, you got

990
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: a chance to take McDuffie here, and you want to

991
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: talk about an elite human being, elite corner and he's

992
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: turned into the best slot corner in the league. And

993
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: you saw what he did in that game. He dominated

994
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: that game absolutely, And that's you draft interior lineman you

995
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: can draft in the second and the third and the

996
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: fourth round. Corners you got to draft in the first round.

997
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: Tackles you have to draft in the first round. Like

998
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: that's quarterbacks you have to draft in the third. There's

999
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: certain positions defensive ends in the first round for the

1000
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: most part. Like that's something to keep in mind. And

1001
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: that's why when you're sitting at I think it was

1002
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: picked seventeen, right, isn't that what Zion was. I think

1003
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: it was seventeen. Yeah, you see, and you're in too.

1004
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: From what I understand, that's what the big debate was,

1005
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: do we take the corner, Do we take the the

1006
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: number one guard, or do we take this corner that's

1007
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: slid because there's some size concerns. Will he be able

1008
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: to play outside? Listen, he can play wherever the hell

1009
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: he wants. I got tackles. He's I know that he's

1010
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: not ideal size, but man, he's incredible. So that's every

1011
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: time I watched him make a play, I'm just like

1012
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: man Bosco kid, just sitting right there.

1013
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: Wait, you know, I remember how much he talked about

1014
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: him leading up to the third and four where he

1015
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: was the free rusher.

1016
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: That right, that was the game, man, game, that's the game.

1017
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: In fact, Noolo like he doesn't get enough credit for

1018
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: for what he does, especially in crunch time and what

1019
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: he was able to do to the Niners in that game.

1020
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: But you're right, man, seeing McDuffie, you're you're envious of

1021
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: a of a player like that and you hate it

1022
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: you have to face him twice a year.

1023
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: Undred percent. And I think that game also was a

1024
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: reminder of execution that the Chiefs were gettable all year.

1025
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: They just execute at such a premium compared to other teams.

1026
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: That's how they win these games. Their execution is they're

1027
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: never gonna let you pull away, whether they're trading punches

1028
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: with you offensively or their defense is trading punches. And

1029
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: that's what that game was. It was the defense playing

1030
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: against two elite defenses, going head to head and just

1031
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: giving Mahomes an opportunity. And that's something that I would

1032
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: love to see develop where we saw many an occasion

1033
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: where either the offense gave the defense an opportunity or

1034
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: the defense gave the Chargers offense and opportunity and they

1035
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: weren't able to take advantage of it. And that's what

1036
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs did. They were getting they were getting just destroyed.

1037
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: Their offense was doing nothing, they had nothing going on,

1038
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: but the defense was able to keep them in it,

1039
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: creating a turnover, holding them to field goals. And then

1040
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: here we go. Here's our bit of Chief's luck like

1041
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: we always get because to some degree you make your

1042
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: own luck because you keep the game close. And here's

1043
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: the muff punt bounces off somebody's leg. Next play, touchdown.

1044
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: Now our offense is back in sync and we're getting

1045
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: back after this. And that's that's my takeaway is just

1046
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: execution is going to be so important, and you saw

1047
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: that in this game, an elite defense, elite offense being

1048
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of opportunity.

1049
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 3: It was the best defense that Patrick Mahomes has had

1050
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: since he became a Kansas City chief.

1051
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: It's going to have it next year too, he will.

1052
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 3: And it also just reminds me too that if you

1053
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: have a quarterback, you always have a chance, and when

1054
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 3: you have an elite quarterback, you're always going to.

1055
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 2: Be in games.

1056
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: And that that's why I think charges Fins should be

1057
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: encouraged to justin Herbers under center, and hopefully with the

1058
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: coaching of Jim Rball and the staff and just having

1059
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: the complimentary pieces around him, we'll start to see that

1060
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 3: luck kind of change in the favor of.

1061
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 2: The Chargers here over the next couple of years.

1062
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, like.

1063
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: What Mahomes can do when it counts.

1064
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, Steve Wolks got fired and he had

1065
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 3: he shut them down for a majority of the game.

1066
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: You know, it was odd, right, right, it was. It

1067
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: was a bit odd. But I think when you looked

1068
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: at the close of the season, the two playoff games,

1069
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: their run defense was not great and they had.

1070
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Speaker 3: The game in Minnesota too, where they did it like

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Speaker 3: a zero blitz and he moved out from the Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, the only reason you make

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Speaker 1: that move is because there's somebody else out there that

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Speaker 1: you like more to me, So I'll be interested to

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Speaker 1: see who he hires, because that's why. Why would you

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Speaker 1: get rid of a guy that that held Patrick Mahomes

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00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: to nineteen points and you couldn't beat them? You tell me,

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Speaker 1: you tell me, that's what did I'm trying to think

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Speaker 1: of what did Gus used to say. Gus used to say.

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00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: I remember, he used to say, hey, with this guy,

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Speaker 1: and this is when they had Tyreek Hill, remember, and

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Speaker 1: so he used to say, as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 1: seven a quarter, If we can hold them to seven

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00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: a quarter, we got a shot. And that's when the

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00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: offense was playing at a high level, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: we're going to have to beat the Chiefs twenty nine

1087
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: to twenty eight, thirty one, twenty eight. That's just reality.

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: That's how high octane this offense is. And you go

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Speaker 1: into a game and you say to your defensive coordinator

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00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: can you hold them to less than three touchdowns? And

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00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: he says, yes, I can give me that guy all day.

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00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: I'll take that guy all day long. Less than three

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00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns in regulation and you should have won.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Chiefs they found something with a lot of

1095
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 3: the key pieces that they got on defense, and then

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00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 3: they rubbed that defense a lot this year.

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Speaker 2: You know you don't.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have that vertical passing game and you had

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Speaker 3: a lot of guys. So much was made about the

1100
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 3: drops from the wide receivers and when it counted. But

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00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: cool Hartman makes the makes the game winning play in

1102
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. But I I do think that outside

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00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: of mahomes Van, you tip your head to Steve Spagnola

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00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: in that defense, and the Chargers are gonna have to

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Speaker 3: face them twice a year.

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Speaker 1: They're pretty good, no doubt, and they're they're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones will be back. They'll resign him. Carl Loftus

1108
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: is on a rookie deal. Dana Panell, those guys they've

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00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: drafted so well you go to the next level. They're linebackers.

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00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton, Willie Gay. We know our old friend Drew

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00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: Trank will maybe bring him back as a free agent.

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00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: Say sorry about that, wasn't us previous coaching regime love

1113
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: to have you back. Obviously, the secondary with Snead and McDuffie,

1114
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: like they're they're incredible. Reid played at a very high level,

1115
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: signed as a free agent, so that's that's a load.

1116
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: And and Spagnola is an incredible coordinator and and calls

1117
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: a heck of a game. So it's gonna be tough

1118
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: to knock them off. But I got faith. I got

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00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: faith in this coaching staff and and the way they're

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Speaker 1: gonna rebuild this and the players they're going to keep

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00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: around to figure out a way. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Well, guys, we're gonna be the Combine in a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks, and we're gonna have a bunch of episodes

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Speaker 3: for you, just a ton of interviews.

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Speaker 2: So maybe next week we do a Q and a.

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00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: Get get some fan questions, talk about the draft, talk

1127
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: about the coaching staff and anything that may come up

1128
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: ahead of the Combine, answer some questions, and then get

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Speaker 3: to Indy for.

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Speaker 1: Sure looking forward to Its gonna be a lot. It's

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: the best time. Man, It's so much fun right now

1132
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: with just team building, restocking, reshaping, all the stuff. Now

1133
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: that they have their staff that's going to come into

1134
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: play over the next two months. Is going to be

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Speaker 1: very exciting and we're gonna be all over it for

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Speaker 1: the next every single week. And like you said, when

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Speaker 1: we go to the Combine a week from today, we're

1138
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Speaker 1: doing this on Thursday to fifteenth, so we'll go a

1139
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Speaker 1: week from Monday is when we'll head out, and we'll

1140
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Speaker 1: be there Monday through Friday, talking to all our old friends,

1141
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: some new friends. Obviously the pressers with with coach Harbaugh

1142
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: and general manager Joe Ortiz, and hopefully we'll get both

1143
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: of them on if we can get a little window

1144
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: there and knock it out. So be sure to pay

1145
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: attention because that week it's gonna be more more than

1146
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: just a single pod. There's gonna be a lot that

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00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 1: that we're gonna throw your way.

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Speaker 3: Charges Weekly is chargers week long. Charge charges week long

1149
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Speaker 3: is where we're gonna call it through the copy at

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Speaker 3: all right, all right, guys, So for buddy, I'm Chris.

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Speaker 2: This has been Charges Weekly. We'll see you next week.