WEBVTT - What's Next?  David Drucker talks to Armstrong & Getty

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<v Speaker 1>at the radio ranch? It really wanted to get some

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<v Speaker 1>sound to go. Oh, gimme Chuck Schumer please positive sean

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<v Speaker 1>hit me with some chuck. The President himself has called

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<v Speaker 1>without qualification for the report to be made public. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no reason on God's green Earth why Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>bar should do any less. Well, that is the major

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<v Speaker 1>issue that everybody agrees on. Fake. So to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the transfer of the MOLA report to the Justice Department,

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<v Speaker 1>the summary thereof the politics going forward, etcetera. Please welcome

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<v Speaker 1>David Drucker from the Washington Examineries, their senior political correse funding.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello David, how are you hey? You good to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you? So how big a development. Is this to

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like you who's followed politics as a career,

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<v Speaker 1>the nonfinding of any collusion. You know, it's funny, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is technically a really big development. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course, in Washington sometimes I feel like I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>used to breathless uh conspiracies and breathless opinions and declarations

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just another Monday and tomorrow will move on

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<v Speaker 1>to something else. But look, clearly, for President Trump, this

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<v Speaker 1>was a major development and a good development, because if

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<v Speaker 1>for no other reason, if the opposite finding had been made,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be so entirely bad and so entirely bad

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<v Speaker 1>for his party that this alone, just on its space,

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<v Speaker 1>can't be anything other than a really good development. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny, and you make an excellent point. The finding

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<v Speaker 1>of something not happening shouldn't be that big deal, except

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<v Speaker 1>in as far as the American media um present company

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<v Speaker 1>accepted obviously have to my mind, humiliating themselves by just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely falling for every rumor, line and sinker, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats having put so much emphasis is this on a theme?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for those reasons, the nothing happened is enormously

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<v Speaker 1>important going forward. Yeah, Well, I think we need to

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<v Speaker 1>separate some of these issues out sure. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, first of all, when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>my industry, and I mean, I've been funny critical of

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<v Speaker 1>my industry. I should have got into this line of work,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was critical of the industry and wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do it differently. But you know, I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>difference between reporting news surrounding Mula's investigation and then breathless

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<v Speaker 1>and speculating as an opinionist. And I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the reporting surrounding the Mueller investigation was just fine

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, Mueller is appointed, that's news. Mueller broad indictments,

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<v Speaker 1>that's news. Mueller does this or that, that's all news.

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<v Speaker 1>The President voices his married opinions on Mueller, including calling him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, essentially the leader of twelve angry Democrats, that's news.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's perfectly legitimate and is always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be reported. And that's different from somebody going on television

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<v Speaker 1>or on the radio and claiming things to be true

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't need know to be true. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why people are angry at the media, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, what we get is deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think most of the reporting around this

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<v Speaker 1>was off base. It's just it was happening and it

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<v Speaker 1>had to be reported. What if what if, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the one of the heavyweight journalistic outlets me

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<v Speaker 1>not name, but what if they went very very big

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<v Speaker 1>on a particular story saying Michael Cohen and Prague or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, another one of the claims of the steal

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<v Speaker 1>dust yes and yeah, but that is but then printed

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<v Speaker 1>no attraction when it came clear it wasn't true. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a different issue from the media embarrassed itself.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, there was there was a ton of reporting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean this, by the way, to defend the media.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm sort of trying to explain how this works.

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<v Speaker 1>The President of the United States speaks it's news. When

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government takes major action, it's news. This is

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<v Speaker 1>totally different from anonymous, resourced reports that are either proven

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<v Speaker 1>wrong or can not be proven true by any stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is embarrassing and that shouldn't happen. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is also different than people going on the air and

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<v Speaker 1>voicing opinions based on facts that are not in evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of that is embarrassing. But I think there

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<v Speaker 1>are different ways to look at the media's coverage. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're tracking with you, and it's a point well made.

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<v Speaker 1>David Drucker, senior political correspondent for The Washington Examiner. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what about the politics of or the Democratic strategy is

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<v Speaker 1>going forward to Adam Shift, for instance, vowing that no,

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<v Speaker 1>do we think there is collusion and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep investigating. Right, So I'm looking for Democrats, Adam Shift

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<v Speaker 1>isn't their nominee for president because he's been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pushing the envelope on this for months, and um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>might look pretty silly to a lot of people. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it sort of depends on what the

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<v Speaker 1>party does with this, and remember there are many different

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the party when you're trying to assist how

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to look in twenty I know that

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<v Speaker 1>what Republicans think, and this is what they've been telling

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<v Speaker 1>me this morning, is that the Democrats pushed so hard

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<v Speaker 1>on this that their base is going to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>eat it up. Therefore, they're going to have to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to push on this, and independent voters are going to say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's been proven that Trump's you know, on the

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<v Speaker 1>up and up. You guys don't want to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>problems he does, and so, um, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we'll vote for Trump, and I think that that's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think people need to understand, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your listeners are trying to assess what happens, that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a difference in terms of what it's being discussed

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<v Speaker 1>by leaders in Washington and Congress and what candidates for

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<v Speaker 1>president are talking about on the trail and what voters

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<v Speaker 1>are asking about. Um. And so, Russia has definitely been

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<v Speaker 1>a major issue. And as I already told you, if

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<v Speaker 1>this is a big political victory for Trump that allows

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<v Speaker 1>him now to proceed forward, he could win a re election,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas the opposite might have totally completely precluded that. But

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know eventually, when there's a Democratic nominee that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to keep banging this drum. And we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know yet what the campaign trail is going to

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<v Speaker 1>look like for the leading candidates. Are they going to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss this or is it going to be raised in

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<v Speaker 1>town hall meetings? Uh? You know, and they might and

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<v Speaker 1>it might be. And I think if they want to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on this, then it is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>problem for them because any voters are going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Mueller's spoken on this. You know, we all think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty decent guy. Now, how are you going to help?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you going to make my life better? Possible?

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<v Speaker 1>That Wall, Wall shift and Nadler and everybody else is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this in d C. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>different in the States, and I think that will impact

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<v Speaker 1>the race of the president. And finally, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to get this point in the president, it's probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to act like the president, which works with

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<v Speaker 1>him in some ways but doesn't work for him in

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<v Speaker 1>other ways. And so I'm not sure once this all

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<v Speaker 1>shakes out and settle down that I think we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go sort of back to what has been

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<v Speaker 1>the norm over the past two years. Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you make an excellent point that the kitchen table issues

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<v Speaker 1>of America are vastly different than what's hot inside the Beltway. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And in terms of the primary, I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>Russian collusion and humiliation is going to be that much

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<v Speaker 1>of a factor. But when it comes to the general,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans would be insane not to tar every Democrat across

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<v Speaker 1>the land with a they swear to you this was

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<v Speaker 1>true for years. I can't even take them seriously. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to be big and old Donald J.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine coming to debates and and Israelies and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. That's gonna that may be the theme,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what they're going to do, and it

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<v Speaker 1>may make a huge difference. And so I'm just curious

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<v Speaker 1>to see as Republicans and the President make this case,

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<v Speaker 1>which I would make if I were them, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>able to overpower some of the things that have caused

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<v Speaker 1>the president problems generally, because I don't actually think the

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<v Speaker 1>cloud of the investigation was necessarily the problem. The results

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a problem. I always felt it was

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<v Speaker 1>how the President talked about the investigation. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the President will continue to talk about House Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>investigations and whatever is going on with the Southern District

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<v Speaker 1>of New York, and he will continue to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>just be the way he is, which works really really

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<v Speaker 1>well for a portion of the Republican base and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>work really well for another part of the Republican coalition.

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<v Speaker 1>Will that overpower this major issue Democrats are going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to reckon with How will they handle it. How

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<v Speaker 1>will Trump handle it? I mean, either there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of unknowns and this could go in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of different directions. You know, what I try and do

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<v Speaker 1>is not reach conclusions yet that I don't have quite

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<v Speaker 1>enough evidence for some different I know it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>horrible for my career. It would be much better if

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<v Speaker 1>I just take the lane and swore by it and

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<v Speaker 1>then let it big. But what I'm saying is this,

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<v Speaker 1>This clearly is a major victory for the president, and

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<v Speaker 1>if Democrats mis handle us going forward, then it can

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<v Speaker 1>continue to pay political dividence for him. Uh And part

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<v Speaker 1>of that will depend on how he handled it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it could totally be the opposite, except it will never

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<v Speaker 1>be one thing. It will never be the end of

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<v Speaker 1>his presidency, and it will say Republicans down valid immeasurable

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<v Speaker 1>ain't because they don't have to deal with running underneath

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<v Speaker 1>the president who's been accused of conspiring. David Drucker, Washington

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<v Speaker 1>examined or Senior political correspondent, David, I'm afraid we're out

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<v Speaker 1>of time, but well done. Great to talk to you.

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