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Speaker 1: at the radio ranch? It really wanted to get some
Speaker 1: sound to go. Oh, gimme Chuck Schumer please positive sean
Speaker 1: hit me with some chuck. The President himself has called
Speaker 1: without qualification for the report to be made public. There
Speaker 1: is no reason on God's green Earth why Attorney General
Speaker 1: bar should do any less. Well, that is the major
Speaker 1: issue that everybody agrees on. Fake. So to talk about
Speaker 1: the transfer of the MOLA report to the Justice Department,
Speaker 1: the summary thereof the politics going forward, etcetera. Please welcome
Speaker 1: David Drucker from the Washington Examineries, their senior political correse funding.
Speaker 1: Hello David, how are you hey? You good to talk
Speaker 1: to you? So how big a development. Is this to
Speaker 1: a guy like you who's followed politics as a career,
Speaker 1: the nonfinding of any collusion. You know, it's funny, it's
Speaker 1: it is. It is technically a really big development. But
Speaker 1: of course, in Washington sometimes I feel like I'm so
Speaker 1: used to breathless uh conspiracies and breathless opinions and declarations
Speaker 1: that it's just another Monday and tomorrow will move on
Speaker 1: to something else. But look, clearly, for President Trump, this
Speaker 1: was a major development and a good development, because if
Speaker 1: for no other reason, if the opposite finding had been made,
Speaker 1: it would be so entirely bad and so entirely bad
Speaker 1: for his party that this alone, just on its space,
Speaker 1: can't be anything other than a really good development. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny, and you make an excellent point. The finding
Speaker 1: of something not happening shouldn't be that big deal, except
Speaker 1: in as far as the American media um present company
Speaker 1: accepted obviously have to my mind, humiliating themselves by just
Speaker 1: absolutely falling for every rumor, line and sinker, and the
Speaker 1: Democrats having put so much emphasis is this on a theme?
Speaker 1: I mean, for those reasons, the nothing happened is enormously
Speaker 1: important going forward. Yeah, Well, I think we need to
Speaker 1: separate some of these issues out sure. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think, first of all, when it comes to the
Speaker 1: my industry, and I mean, I've been funny critical of
Speaker 1: my industry. I should have got into this line of work,
Speaker 1: and I was critical of the industry and wanted to
Speaker 1: do it differently. But you know, I think there's a
Speaker 1: difference between reporting news surrounding Mula's investigation and then breathless
Speaker 1: and speculating as an opinionist. And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of the reporting surrounding the Mueller investigation was just fine
Speaker 1: because I mean, Mueller is appointed, that's news. Mueller broad indictments,
Speaker 1: that's news. Mueller does this or that, that's all news.
Speaker 1: The President voices his married opinions on Mueller, including calling him,
Speaker 1: you know, essentially the leader of twelve angry Democrats, that's news.
Speaker 1: I think that's perfectly legitimate and is always going to
Speaker 1: be reported. And that's different from somebody going on television
Speaker 1: or on the radio and claiming things to be true
Speaker 1: that they don't need know to be true. So, um,
Speaker 1: I understand why people are angry at the media, and
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, what we get is deserved.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think most of the reporting around this
Speaker 1: was off base. It's just it was happening and it
Speaker 1: had to be reported. What if what if, for instance,
Speaker 1: one of the one of the heavyweight journalistic outlets me
Speaker 1: not name, but what if they went very very big
Speaker 1: on a particular story saying Michael Cohen and Prague or
Speaker 1: you know, another one of the claims of the steal
Speaker 1: dust yes and yeah, but that is but then printed
Speaker 1: no attraction when it came clear it wasn't true. Right,
Speaker 1: But that's a different issue from the media embarrassed itself.
Speaker 1: In other words, there was there was a ton of reporting.
Speaker 1: I don't mean this, by the way, to defend the media.
Speaker 1: I just I'm sort of trying to explain how this works.
Speaker 1: The President of the United States speaks it's news. When
Speaker 1: the federal government takes major action, it's news. This is
Speaker 1: totally different from anonymous, resourced reports that are either proven
Speaker 1: wrong or can not be proven true by any stretch.
Speaker 1: And that is embarrassing and that shouldn't happen. And that
Speaker 1: is also different than people going on the air and
Speaker 1: voicing opinions based on facts that are not in evidence.
Speaker 1: So all of that is embarrassing. But I think there
Speaker 1: are different ways to look at the media's coverage. I
Speaker 1: think we're tracking with you, and it's a point well made.
Speaker 1: David Drucker, senior political correspondent for The Washington Examiner. Uh,
Speaker 1: what about the politics of or the Democratic strategy is
Speaker 1: going forward to Adam Shift, for instance, vowing that no,
Speaker 1: do we think there is collusion and we're going to
Speaker 1: keep investigating. Right, So I'm looking for Democrats, Adam Shift
Speaker 1: isn't their nominee for president because he's been, you know,
Speaker 1: pushing the envelope on this for months, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: might look pretty silly to a lot of people. And
Speaker 1: I think that it sort of depends on what the
Speaker 1: party does with this, and remember there are many different
Speaker 1: parts of the party when you're trying to assist how
Speaker 1: this is going to look in twenty I know that
Speaker 1: what Republicans think, and this is what they've been telling
Speaker 1: me this morning, is that the Democrats pushed so hard
Speaker 1: on this that their base is going to continue to
Speaker 1: eat it up. Therefore, they're going to have to continue
Speaker 1: to push on this, and independent voters are going to say, well,
Speaker 1: now it's been proven that Trump's you know, on the
Speaker 1: up and up. You guys don't want to focus on
Speaker 1: problems he does, and so, um, you know what, I
Speaker 1: think we'll vote for Trump, and I think that that's possible.
Speaker 1: But I think people need to understand, as you know,
Speaker 1: your listeners are trying to assess what happens, that there
Speaker 1: is a difference in terms of what it's being discussed
Speaker 1: by leaders in Washington and Congress and what candidates for
Speaker 1: president are talking about on the trail and what voters
Speaker 1: are asking about. Um. And so, Russia has definitely been
Speaker 1: a major issue. And as I already told you, if
Speaker 1: this is a big political victory for Trump that allows
Speaker 1: him now to proceed forward, he could win a re election,
Speaker 1: whereas the opposite might have totally completely precluded that. But
Speaker 1: we don't know eventually, when there's a Democratic nominee that
Speaker 1: they're going to keep banging this drum. And we don't
Speaker 1: really know yet what the campaign trail is going to
Speaker 1: look like for the leading candidates. Are they going to
Speaker 1: discuss this or is it going to be raised in
Speaker 1: town hall meetings? Uh? You know, and they might and
Speaker 1: it might be. And I think if they want to
Speaker 1: focus on this, then it is going to be a
Speaker 1: problem for them because any voters are going to say,
Speaker 1: Mueller's spoken on this. You know, we all think he's
Speaker 1: a pretty decent guy. Now, how are you going to help?
Speaker 1: How are you going to make my life better? Possible?
Speaker 1: That Wall, Wall shift and Nadler and everybody else is
Speaker 1: talking about this in d C. It's going to be
Speaker 1: different in the States, and I think that will impact
Speaker 1: the race of the president. And finally, I just want
Speaker 1: to get this point in the president, it's probably going
Speaker 1: to continue to act like the president, which works with
Speaker 1: him in some ways but doesn't work for him in
Speaker 1: other ways. And so I'm not sure once this all
Speaker 1: shakes out and settle down that I think we're not
Speaker 1: going to go sort of back to what has been
Speaker 1: the norm over the past two years. Well, I think
Speaker 1: you make an excellent point that the kitchen table issues
Speaker 1: of America are vastly different than what's hot inside the Beltway. Um.
Speaker 1: And in terms of the primary, I don't think the
Speaker 1: Russian collusion and humiliation is going to be that much
Speaker 1: of a factor. But when it comes to the general,
Speaker 1: Republicans would be insane not to tar every Democrat across
Speaker 1: the land with a they swear to you this was
Speaker 1: true for years. I can't even take them seriously. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is going to be big and old Donald J.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine coming to debates and and Israelies and
Speaker 1: the rest of it. That's gonna that may be the theme,
Speaker 1: and that is what they're going to do, and it
Speaker 1: may make a huge difference. And so I'm just curious
Speaker 1: to see as Republicans and the President make this case,
Speaker 1: which I would make if I were them, if it's
Speaker 1: able to overpower some of the things that have caused
Speaker 1: the president problems generally, because I don't actually think the
Speaker 1: cloud of the investigation was necessarily the problem. The results
Speaker 1: could have been a problem. I always felt it was
Speaker 1: how the President talked about the investigation. And I think
Speaker 1: that the President will continue to talk about House Democratic
Speaker 1: investigations and whatever is going on with the Southern District
Speaker 1: of New York, and he will continue to sort of
Speaker 1: just be the way he is, which works really really
Speaker 1: well for a portion of the Republican base and doesn't
Speaker 1: work really well for another part of the Republican coalition.
Speaker 1: Will that overpower this major issue Democrats are going to
Speaker 1: have to reckon with How will they handle it. How
Speaker 1: will Trump handle it? I mean, either there are a
Speaker 1: lot of unknowns and this could go in a couple
Speaker 1: of different directions. You know, what I try and do
Speaker 1: is not reach conclusions yet that I don't have quite
Speaker 1: enough evidence for some different I know it's it's it's
Speaker 1: horrible for my career. It would be much better if
Speaker 1: I just take the lane and swore by it and
Speaker 1: then let it big. But what I'm saying is this,
Speaker 1: This clearly is a major victory for the president, and
Speaker 1: if Democrats mis handle us going forward, then it can
Speaker 1: continue to pay political dividence for him. Uh And part
Speaker 1: of that will depend on how he handled it, and
Speaker 1: it could totally be the opposite, except it will never
Speaker 1: be one thing. It will never be the end of
Speaker 1: his presidency, and it will say Republicans down valid immeasurable
Speaker 1: ain't because they don't have to deal with running underneath
Speaker 1: the president who's been accused of conspiring. David Drucker, Washington
Speaker 1: examined or Senior political correspondent, David, I'm afraid we're out
Speaker 1: of time, but well done. Great to talk to you.
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