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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. We are through

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Speaker 1: the first week of free agency and a lot has

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Speaker 1: gone on here in Baltimore, especially over the past few days.

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Speaker 1: So Garrett and I are here to break it all

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Speaker 1: down for you, give you our takeaways from what's gone down.

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Speaker 1: And last night it was the move as the as

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Speaker 1: we commuted home, as we left work in the car,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't grilling this time, it was driving home from

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Speaker 1: work got the breaking news that Arthur Malett had agreed

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Speaker 1: to a two year deal with the Ravens. Let's start there, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: what was your takeaway from that move?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a really just a quality move

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Speaker 2: for the Ravens. I think that you look at the

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Speaker 2: cornerback position and there's two things that I think are

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Speaker 3: One is you want to be really deep.

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Speaker 2: There, just given the there's an attrition there, there's injuries

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Speaker 2: that take place there. It's an incredibly important position. And

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Speaker 2: then secondly, the Ravens have number of questions there because

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Speaker 2: Ronald Darby Leston free agency. They have young players and

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Speaker 2: so I think they want to have a veteran presence there.

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Speaker 2: Arthur Mullett is basically a proven commodity. He can step

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Speaker 2: in and he can play reps as your slack cornerback.

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Speaker 2: He did that well last year. I think he's a

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Speaker 2: proven commodity. He gives you at a depth. I just

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Speaker 2: thought it was a you know, quality move across the board.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that Arthur Mullett, It's funny. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: even call himself a cornerback. He's like, I am a nickel. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's my position. Yeah, And so really to me, it's

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Speaker 1: this is this is your nickel. And I think he'll

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Speaker 1: get competition from Pepe Williams will be one of the

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Speaker 1: guys that competes for that, and there could be others.

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Speaker 1: Ardarius Washington could get snaps in there. But now you

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Speaker 1: that you don't want to be shorthanded at that position

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Speaker 1: because it's really important. You've heard me talk about the

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Speaker 1: nickel corner.

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Speaker 3: A lot, or your favorite position in football, my favorite one.

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Speaker 4: To talk about. So I'm really jacked up talking about

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Speaker 4: this too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody was more Nobody was more excited than me,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I think that Malett here's a hard

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Speaker 1: nosed player, played well last year, really good around the

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Speaker 1: line of scribbage, good tackler, tackles for loss. Like you

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Speaker 1: look at the stats, I mean good across the board.

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Speaker 4: I mean, here's a guy.

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Speaker 1: You got a couple of sacks, five pass deflections, tackles

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Speaker 1: for loss, force, fumble recoveries, right, Like, this guy is

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Speaker 1: making an impact in multiple ways.

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Speaker 4: He's a really good blitzer.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a good knack for that, good

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Speaker 1: feel for kind of deception coming uncovered, the timing of

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Speaker 1: the blitz. He's a good tackler, gets the quarterback to

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Speaker 1: the ground. So a lot to like about Arthur Malette

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Speaker 1: as the Ravens slot corner moving forward, and you feel

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Speaker 1: happy for him. Here's a former undrafted guy who bounced

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Speaker 1: around a little bit, was with Pittsburgh last was not

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Speaker 1: happy with the way his contract negotiations were going with them,

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Speaker 1: and now has an extended run in Baltimore, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so a guy who's kind of bounced between teams

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Speaker 1: and has just been a good fit here with the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that like this doesn't preclude the Ravens

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Speaker 2: from adding to the cornerback position.

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Speaker 3: I think that still happen.

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Speaker 1: They still absolutely need to add more depth outside. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Darby's departure doesn't really, in my opinion, affect this move

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Speaker 1: so much. You know, they still need a guy outside

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Speaker 4: Were injuries to happen or whatnot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, right now you have Marlon Humphrey and

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Speaker 1: Davis has been injured for through his first two years.

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Speaker 1: Right now he would size up as a third corner,

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Speaker 1: and you hope he becomes that and stays healthy this

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Speaker 1: offseason and stax practices and all that stuff. But like

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Speaker 1: you can't put all your eggs in that basket.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we could probably run it back with the

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Speaker 2: conversation from a podcast a year ago. We were having

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Speaker 2: a very similar.

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Speaker 4: Convers exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: You're in the same boat, and so they need to

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Speaker 1: whether that be via the draft, draft a corner in

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Speaker 1: you get a third round corner, you probably still need

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Speaker 4: So it's it's all about.

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Speaker 1: The readiness of twenty twenty four and and maybe if

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Speaker 1: don't need to add a corner Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think honestly, the Raves will basically do what they

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Speaker 2: did last year exactly now, the difference being I could

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Speaker 2: they didn't draft.

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Speaker 4: A cornerback, right, I think they're gonna draft.

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Speaker 2: I think they will draft. But we also said that

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Speaker 4: Which was well, I think they wanted to. It's just

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Speaker 2: But I think that I don't think that they'll I

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Speaker 2: shocked if they ended up taking two cornerbacks. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think you would love to get a long term

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Speaker 2: into a really important season. So I think that, like

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Speaker 2: if they wouldn't shock me.

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Speaker 1: Kyu Blue Kelly, you know, didn't make the team last year. Elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: So really you're kind of replacing him. And even if

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Speaker 2: I think that they could end up in a similar

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to.

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Speaker 3: Basically do what they did last year.

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Speaker 2: See what they have in the offseason practices with Pepe Williams,

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Speaker 2: did that with Rocketsine, and they did that with Ronald Darby.

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Speaker 3: He was earlier.

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Speaker 2: He was in the springtime. He was, but Ronald Darby

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I expect that's the case.

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Speaker 1: But for now, it's nice to know that you have

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Speaker 1: a proven commodity who plays really well at nickel, Like

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Speaker 1: you feel good about your Nickel corner really Now you

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Speaker 1: have your three guys, your three starting corners are pretty

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Speaker 4: Your two starting safeties. Now you need more depth.

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Speaker 1: That's that's our point here is you need more depth

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Speaker 1: and you need potential starters down the road.

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Speaker 4: You need the next wave. I hope they get a

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Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens, by the way, long term extension. I really

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Speaker 1: am hopeful for that. But I think we're on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it's also you know, it's when I look

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Speaker 3: I think that outside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Outside linebacks would be the one, you know, Oh way,

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Speaker 4: The field probably the spring. Possibly no TA is, probably

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Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor and I only pretend to be

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Speaker 1: one in press conferences, as John Harmon likes to say.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know so, but that's still a question mark.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't know that you absolutely need somebody.

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Speaker 1: There's neither of those guys are going to play every

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's continue the conversation with outside linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Reports are today that Jadeveon Clowney's decisioning with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: There's been no reports yet on the Kyle van Noy front,

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Speaker 2: But uh, but Clowney is is the big one. As

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Speaker 2: it stands right now, he has visited the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 2: We'll see if deals get done with either of those

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Speaker 2: he ended up back here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. I think he was a really

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Speaker 1: good player last year. He's a good fit had you know,

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Speaker 4: So it's a good fit across the board.

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Speaker 1: And ultimately, I think it's going to come down the

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Speaker 1: dollars and cents and whether the Jets, you know, order

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Speaker 1: him that special sandwich that they gave Mike Williams. So

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't get the Sammy absolutely should leave New

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Speaker 1: He might come down to the sandwich, come down to

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Speaker 1: the sandwich. I know it would come down the sandwich.

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Speaker 1: For you. Oh, I hang around this place. The Cavit series.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna says, if it's a question of the cafeteria,

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Speaker 2: the cafeteria here is as good as a guess.

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Speaker 1: If Many and Neil and the cafeteria career listen to this,

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Speaker 1: y'all have been on fire, all right.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to put that out there.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So, in terms of other moves that have gone on,

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Speaker 2: another one is Kevin Zeitler has left in free agency.

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Speaker 2: He's gone to the Detroit Lions on a one year,

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Speaker 2: reported six million dollar contract. It felt like he his

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Speaker 2: the Ravens were already carrying dead cap. I think that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But anyway, I think that he's probably has the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see the Ravens drafting two tackles this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: He won the starting job Week one. He was the starter, So.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree with that. The big difference is you

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Speaker 1: at a lot of the right tackles near the end

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Speaker 1: of the first round. The guy's going in mock drafts,

444
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Speaker 1: you know, the Guiting from Oklahoma right tackle, Amarius Mims

445
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 1: from Georgia right tackle. Now, the question is, I think,

446
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 1: is can they be a left tackle in the future

447
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 1: down the road. There's some other guys like, uh Morgan

448
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Speaker 1: from Arizona.

449
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Speaker 4: I want to I want to. I keep wanting to

450
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Speaker 4: say Joe Morgan, but that's not right.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cincinnati is great. Joe MORGANA so.

452
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Speaker 4: He can also play second base. Very personal player, I'm

453
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Speaker 4: telling you, so you know him be up?

454
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Speaker 1: Why you kid, I'm not even gonna try. Look, we're

455
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Speaker 1: not in prime draft season. I have to know all

456
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Speaker 1: these names like the back of my hand. I'm going

457
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Speaker 1: to give myself an excuse here, Okay, But a lot

458
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Speaker 1: of these guys, I think the question is ultimately can

459
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Speaker 1: they flip over to the left side and be that

460
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Speaker 1: potential replacement from Ronnie Stanley down the road, because as

461
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Speaker 1: we know, Ronnie Stanley's entering kind of a make or

462
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Speaker 1: break year this year.

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally all right.

464
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Speaker 2: So in terms of some of the other moves that

465
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Speaker 2: have taken place, well, Chris Board, yep, Chris Board is

466
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Speaker 2: another one. The Ravens reportedly bring him back special teams

467
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Speaker 2: ace linebacker depth. You know, I think that I don't

468
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Speaker 2: expect him to be a starting linebacker, you know, but

469
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Speaker 2: I think that he can step in there if needed.

470
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Speaker 2: Del Sean Phillips left in free agency. We haven't talked

471
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Speaker 2: about that much, but I think that this is basically

472
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Speaker 2: the same player. You know, this is a special teams

473
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Speaker 2: primarily play primarily a special teamer who's done that at

474
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 2: a very high level and can also step in on

475
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Speaker 2: defense if needed.

476
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that he may.

477
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Speaker 1: He may offer a little bit more on defense than

478
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Speaker 1: del Sean did, at least before Chris Board left. You know,

479
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Speaker 1: in his third and fourth seasons in Baltimore, he played

480
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Speaker 1: a fair amount of defensive snaps, almost the third of them,

481
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Speaker 1: and so this was a guy who was kind of

482
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Speaker 1: up and coming getting some run. He didn't play as

483
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Speaker 1: much defense in his two stops since, most recently with

484
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Speaker 1: the Patriots, but I wonder, you know, I think there's

485
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Speaker 1: some snaps to be had there. The Ravens are already brought

486
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Speaker 1: back Malik Harrison also, so they're set it inside linebacker.

487
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I expect, of course there will be an

488
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Speaker 1: undrafted inside linebacker that is broke to compete, compete for

489
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Speaker 1: a spot on the fifty three man roster on special teams.

490
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Speaker 1: But when you look at it right now, Rokwan, Trenton Simpson,

491
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Speaker 1: Malik Harrison, and now Chris Board that's your four. And

492
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Speaker 1: I expect that Trenton Simpson probably has a leg up

493
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Speaker 1: on starting Malik Harrison.

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Speaker 4: The Ravens know what he offers.

495
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Speaker 1: He's also kind of a versatile edge setter as well

496
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Speaker 1: play outside linebacker. But I think you're looking at the

497
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens twenty twenty four inside linebacker corps.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's taking a quick break and then

499
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Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll take a look around the

500
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Speaker 2: division and also discuss what the Ravens could do at

501
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Speaker 2: wide receiver. We got to talk a little wide receiver,

502
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Speaker 2: you know, it's always part of the conversation in the

503
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Speaker 2: off season, so we'll dive into that when we get back.

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Speaker 2: That's always a fun talking point. The Ravens last week

517
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Speaker 2: released Odell Beckham Junior, and.

518
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Speaker 3: He this week now.

519
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Speaker 2: They initially said that, you know, the door was opened

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Speaker 2: on a potential reunion there and you know, trying to

521
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Speaker 2: work out an extension. But then this week kind of

522
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: pend a tribute farewell to the Ravens and the city

523
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: of Baltimore in the organization posted that on Instagram, thanking

524
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Speaker 2: the team and the fans for embracing him for the

525
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Speaker 2: one season and you know, wishing everybody the best and

526
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Speaker 2: basically his his farewell message. So it's certainly seems like

527
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Speaker 2: his time in Baltimore has come to an end.

528
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Speaker 4: It seems like he's.

529
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Speaker 1: Letting the world know that I am a free agent. Yes,

530
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Speaker 1: I'm ready for another place.

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Speaker 3: Give me a call.

532
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, which means that I mean, first of all,

533
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Speaker 2: on Odell, I thought that, you know, his one season

534
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Speaker 2: of Baltimore, like he brought a lot of energy. I

535
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Speaker 2: thought he was a good teammate, good locker room guy.

536
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Speaker 2: I thought that like young players like a Zay Flowers

537
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Speaker 2: and others certainly looked.

538
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Speaker 3: Up to him.

539
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Speaker 2: He has obvious cachet. He comes with, you know, this

540
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Speaker 2: whole persona. And I do think that he really tried

541
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Speaker 2: to to make himself somebody who was accessible to his

542
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Speaker 2: teammates and friendly in the locker room and was a

543
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Speaker 2: good teammate, like he tried to bring people together. I

544
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Speaker 2: think he tried to do social things like I think

545
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: that he really worked at that. And then you know,

546
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: on the field, I think that like the numbers were okay,

547
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: they weren't to the level that he would expect. But

548
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: I think that you know, he dealt with injuries and

549
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: he was kind of on the field. Off the field,

550
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Speaker 2: I thought he was a good player. I think that,

551
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Speaker 2: like the numbers again, they're not what they were for

552
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: him earlier in his career. But I also am not

553
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Speaker 2: just gonna say, like, you know, he was second on

554
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Speaker 2: the team and receiving yards and targets. Like, I'm not

555
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 2: totally dismissing his production last year. Like it was not huge,

556
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Speaker 2: but it was also not nothing.

557
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Speaker 1: Okay, he made he made some strong handed catches, some

558
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Speaker 1: big situations.

559
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Speaker 4: Yeah play, Yeah he did.

560
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Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of like how he advertises himself

561
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Speaker 1: at this point. He's like, I'm a big play guy.

562
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Speaker 1: When you need something to make the catch, big games,

563
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: big plays, I'm that guy. Yeah, I might not be

564
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: a thousand right yard receiver again, but like I'm gonna

565
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Speaker 1: come in to help somebody win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: And I think that he has the confidence that he

567
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Speaker 2: can be a thousand yard receiver again probably and.

568
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Speaker 3: And will he will see. But I thought it was

569
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Speaker 3: a good overall experience.

570
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Speaker 2: I think the Ravens feel, like, you know, wish him

571
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Speaker 2: the best obviously, and it'll be interesting to see where

572
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: he goes and what he's looking for and all that.

573
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Speaker 3: But you know, I thought it was a good one

574
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Speaker 3: year experience with him, and you know, wish them the best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But so now the Ravens are looking again, as

576
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Speaker 2: I said, like replacing that production. I think most of

577
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Speaker 2: that will go to Rashad Bateman, and the Ravens expect

578
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Speaker 2: him to have a bigger season this year. But I

579
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: still think that they need to add a receiver to

580
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Speaker 2: the team. Yeah, and I think that that could come

581
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Speaker 2: in free agency, but I think that's more likely to

582
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Speaker 2: happen to the draft.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree. I mean they also need somebody. Rashat

584
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Speaker 1: Bateman's going to his fourth year. The Ravens have a

585
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Speaker 1: decision to make on his fifth year option. Deadline is

586
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Speaker 1: May second. If they don't pick up that option, then

587
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Speaker 1: you really need somebody that can step in and be.

588
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Speaker 4: A starter next next season as well.

589
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Speaker 3: And so.

590
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Speaker 1: And they don't want to be short handed wide receiver again,

591
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Speaker 1: Like you don't put in all that work last off

592
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Speaker 1: season to build up a wide receiver corps that by

593
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Speaker 1: all admission, was too thin the year prior.

594
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Speaker 4: Right in twenty twenty two, the Ravens.

595
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Speaker 1: Just they were just two shallow receiver and Bateman went

596
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Speaker 1: down and it was a sore spot for the team

597
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Speaker 1: for much of the year. Last offseason, they did a

598
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Speaker 1: ton of work to build that room up, and they

599
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Speaker 1: don't want to go backwards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is the fact of the matter.

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Speaker 1: So I do think that they're going to invest a

602
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Speaker 1: high pick at wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Again, I'm not I.

604
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Speaker 3: Pick what's high for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to rule out a first round wide

606
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Speaker 1: receiver if the board were to fall that way.

607
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just think if Amarius Mims were taken, let's say,

609
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Speaker 1: and the tackles that the Ravens might like, Gitens off

610
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Speaker 1: the board, Mims off the board, and the.

611
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Speaker 4: Tackles they really like aren't there.

612
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Speaker 1: You know, they could pick a different tackle at thirty,

613
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Speaker 1: or they could trade back and take take one.

614
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Speaker 4: I would not rule out that possibility at all.

615
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Speaker 1: Let's just say the wider, the edge rusher, you know

616
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Speaker 1: they're gone, or you don't want to take Chop Robinson,

617
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: who has a lot of athletic tools, not a.

618
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Speaker 3: Ton of product.

619
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Speaker 4: You know, you say, yeah, do we want to go

620
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: down that road again? Penn State rusher.

621
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Speaker 1: You know he similar to Oway, this guy who tested

622
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: off the charts, got a crazy athletic ability. I think

623
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: he's a really good player. But let's just say they

624
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Speaker 1: didn't want to draft him, Like, could they be just

625
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: be looking at it and saying, yeah, you know, one

626
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: of these wide receivers that we really like, whether it's

627
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: Lad McConkey from Georgia, or it's Worthy from Texas, or

628
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: it's the the other Texas you know, yeah.

629
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Speaker 3: Mitchell Dona, Mitchell, Yeah.

630
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Speaker 1: From Texas, Like one of those guys that's sitting there

631
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: and you say, you know, we really want to have

632
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: a very good wide receiver corps, and we know that

633
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: we need to keep planning for the future, and we're

634
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: just going to keep restocking that room with high picks

635
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: and just ball out at wide receiver Like sure, yeah,

636
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: they could do that.

637
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Speaker 2: I would a first round receiver. If the board fell

638
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: that way would not shock me. I would be more

639
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: surprised if the board fell that way, if that makes sense.

640
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: I just receivers tend to go quickly. The run stars

641
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: the Ravens are picking at thirty. Now, last year, the

642
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: run started right before the Raves were on the clock.

643
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: They were in the middle of everyone, were the third

644
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: spot on that along that run, but four straight guys went.

645
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: It would be a little bit surprising if like the

646
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: receivers I think sit out there. They can just they

647
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: can get picked quickly, and so I feel like now

648
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: the same thing could happen with tackles. Tackles are always

649
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: a high commodity past rush, high commodity, high commodity.

650
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be more.

651
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Speaker 1: There's a higher likelihood of those wide receivers that I

652
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: mentioned being there at thirty than there are of those

653
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: Geit and Mims being there at thirty.

654
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's and then corners the other one. I think.

655
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Speaker 2: I really believe, like just from a big picture standpoint,

656
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: that Eric's costa can be patient in this draft. I

657
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: just think that, like you can make the case to

658
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: take a first round corner tackle, receiver, pass rusher. I

659
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: think you can make a case that you could take

660
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Speaker 2: a first round or.

661
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Speaker 3: At any of those positions.

662
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that I would probably rank it. Let's

663
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Speaker 4: getting the nitty gritty.

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Speaker 1: I would go offensive tackle first. I would probably say

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Speaker 1: pass rusher second, YEP, corner wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: That's actually my samit ranking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And to be honest, like offensive tackle is there's

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Speaker 2: a gap between one and two.

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Speaker 3: In my mind, I would agree with it.

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Speaker 2: So there's it's it's clearly number one on this list.

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Speaker 4: Of these rankings, we have immediate and long term.

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Speaker 2: You have mediate and long term, and the others are

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Speaker 2: really more especially receiver and corner semi immediate, but more

674
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Speaker 2: from a depth standpoint, more long term there. And so

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Speaker 2: that's why I put the other you know, pass rushers both.

676
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Speaker 2: But so that's that's the way I see it. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would not be shocked if they take a first

678
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Speaker 2: round receiver, but I think that there's other positions that

679
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Speaker 2: are more pressing. And if all of a sudden, like

680
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Speaker 2: you're sitting there on draft night and it's like, you know,

681
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: the twenty third pick, and you're like, well, there's been

682
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Speaker 2: one receiver off the board, Like there could be a

683
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Speaker 2: you could have a bunch of them that the Ravens

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Speaker 2: are interested in. Now, I think that you're having that conversation,

685
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Speaker 2: and I think that that could be really interesting.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw this out there and fans will probably

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Speaker 4: eat this up. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think if the Ravens were gonna make one kind

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Speaker 1: of like oh my gosh, splash signing or acquisition trade,

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Speaker 1: whatever it be. Like, if there's another splash for the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: this offseason.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Did you read that in the Lorax? It's well done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you saw this other

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Speaker 1: rumor that was also probably not true about the Ravens

696
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Speaker 1: giving the Bengals a call about t Higgins.

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00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 4: You know, but the.

698
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Speaker 2: Bengals trade Higgins a division Island.

699
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Speaker 4: Highly don't.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: That was the report, was that the Bengals hung up

702
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Speaker 4: on the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Basically, whether that's true or that came from you know,

704
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Speaker 1: Joe Blow Bengals fan. You know, I've got I've got

705
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: a podcast in my basement, Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Got you read it on the message Fords.

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Speaker 4: I not to hate on anybody.

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Speaker 1: He's got a podcast in your basement out there, Ravens listeners.

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Speaker 4: I know there are many of you. I love your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying right, like, I don't know that I

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00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: trust that report, but like I just I I can't

712
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Speaker 1: say it enough that I think that the Ravens like

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Speaker 1: do not want to leave Lamar Jackson shorthanded at wide

714
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Speaker 1: receiver again, Yeah, I I agree.

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Speaker 2: I just think that I don't know that I see

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Speaker 2: a big splash move coming there.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm not saying the chances are good, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to cover all my bases.

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Speaker 4: If there is one, that's the one I could see.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well there you go. All right.

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Speaker 2: That's another position I want to talk out of talk

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00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: about on the offense before looking at the.

723
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Speaker 3: Division as a whole. Is quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the Ravens have their QB one in Lamar Jackson,

725
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Speaker 2: uh signed to a long term deal. Much different conversation

726
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Speaker 2: than we were having a year ago, but it's very

727
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Speaker 2: nice to not have to worry about that and not

728
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Speaker 2: spend all that conversation on in the off season. But

729
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: the second quarterback spot, they've re signed Josh Johnson to

730
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Speaker 2: a one year contract, the veteran and Tyler Huntley then

731
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Speaker 2: went and signed a one year contract with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Correct The one year deal for Snoop was reportedly for

733
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Speaker 2: the vetteran minimum with the Browns, and he's their fourth quarterback.

734
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Speaker 2: So they have Deshaun Watson, they're bringing.

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Speaker 4: Jameis Winston, who's the third in Thompson Robson right.

736
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Speaker 3: Right, of course, so he's basically competing for a spot.

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Speaker 4: He's basically competing for the third quarterback spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, essentially, yep.

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Speaker 1: I mean they gave Jamis a pretty big deal, so

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Speaker 1: that's not a competition. Yeah, it's it's Kenny beat out

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Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson, who the they drafted in on Day

742
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Speaker 1: three last year. Do they feel like they want to

743
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Speaker 1: keep developing him or do they not care?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I was.

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Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised that there was not

746
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: a hot on market for Snoop. I mean, I didn't

747
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Speaker 2: expect him to get like a monster deal, but I

748
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Speaker 2: do think that he's been like a quality player that's

749
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: played in some big moments, and I think that he's

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Speaker 2: I think this Stoop's good.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean I think that they were, you know,

752
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: not that long ago, people being like could the team

753
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: trade for Snoop? Yeah, to be their starter? And then

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Speaker 1: it was like, well this offseason, like, well, he'll probably

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Speaker 1: go to a team where he has a competition to

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Speaker 1: be the starter, and you know whatever, if he.

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Speaker 4: Lose that, he's the backup. Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: As it looks as we just spelled out, it looks

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Speaker 1: like he's in a competition to be a third quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I am surprised by that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which ultimately last year he kind of ended up

762
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Speaker 2: in this competition for the number two because Josh Johnson.

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Speaker 2: You know, when they even signed Josh Johnson last year,

764
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Speaker 2: the feeling was still kind of like, oh, Josh Johnson

765
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Speaker 2: will maybe they keep him as the third, and then

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Speaker 2: over the course of training camp in the preseason, it

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Speaker 2: was kind of like, oh, actually, this is a competition

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Speaker 2: for the number two, and Josh Johnson really made a

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Speaker 2: strong push and it ended up that Snoop was the

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Speaker 2: number two quarterback throughout the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know that there's like that was the

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Speaker 1: way it worked on game days. Yeah, and yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would say, really Snoop was primarily the number two, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think that there was a really clear line there.

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Speaker 1: I think it was pretty much two A and two B. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's how I'll put it. And so wouldn't you look

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00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: at the Ravens quarterback room now, Really, Malik Cunningham is

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Speaker 1: the Snoop of three four years ago. He's the developmental

779
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Speaker 1: mobile quarterback who you know, on a on a rookie contract,

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Speaker 1: who the Ravens want to develop and see if he

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Speaker 1: can become that guy Josh Johnson. You know, if you're

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Speaker 1: going to develop Malik Cunningham, it makes sense to keep

783
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Speaker 1: more sense to keep Josh Johnson over Tyler Huntley. I

784
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: think because Josh Johnson is the veteran who's played in

785
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Speaker 1: a bunch of games. You know, he can go in

786
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: there right now and be the you know, takeover if

787
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: need be right. So I think that Malik and Snooper

788
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: are so similar that you didn't need both of them.

789
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And also it comes down to a little bit

790
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: like Malik is a lower cost and Snoop even on.

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Speaker 3: The veteran minimum, like he's a player on his rookie deal.

792
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Speaker 4: So I think that, yeah, there's just undrafted player.

793
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Speaker 3: Undrafted player. Yeah, so I think that again a little surprise.

794
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: I would say, well, here's the thing at quarterback draft

795
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: status as it does.

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00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: Matter matters so much.

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00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you see Sam Darnell get one hundred chances, right,

798
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: you see Marcus Mario to get one hundred chances. These

799
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: former first round high picks are gone. It can continue

800
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: to get shots. And a guy that's undrafted like Snooplake,

801
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: it stinks. You know, when you've gone out there and

802
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: played in big time games and done good things out

803
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: there on the field, that like at the end of

804
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: the day part. I think partly your draft status dictates

805
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: how much teams are willing to how many chances teams

806
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: are willing to give you.

807
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

808
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: Now, though I guess the contrary piece to that on

809
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: the draft status piece. One of the other big surprises

810
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 2: on the quarterback front was Justin Fields, and this brings

811
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: us to the conversation just around the AFC North as

812
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: a whole. Justin Fields goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers for

813
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty five Day three pick. You know, like

814
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: that surprised me. This is a form of super high

815
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: just a few years ago. Now he's going into the

816
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: final season of his rookie contract, and so the Steelers

817
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: in a situation where they have Russell Wilson and Justin

818
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: Fields now Russell Wilson, they rushed out there to say

819
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: he's the starter, and so, you know, I would fully expect,

820
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the case that that Russell Wilson to.

821
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: Be the start.

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00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: I just laughed because there's a lot of drama with

823
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, and right that was kind of reportedly what

824
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: led to the downfall of Kenny Pickett was ambiguity about

825
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: who was going to be the starter and how much

826
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: of a chance Kenny Pickett had to be had it

827
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: being that guy.

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00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they so Wilson, they got out in

829
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: front of that one. Yeah, they guy out in front

830
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: of it at this time, and Kenny Pickett obviously gets traded.

831
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, Like it's an interesting move. Fields

832
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: is a super talented guy. He's shown some great moments

833
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: to struggle with injuries, you know, been more more success

834
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: on the running side than as an overall passing quarterback.

835
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but talented player.

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Speaker 1: And I mean I think, look, I think for twenty

837
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: twenty four, it's a move that makes a whole lot

838
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: of sense for the Steelers. I mean, justin Fields, I

839
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: would venture to say is one of the best backup

840
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league entering twenty twenty four.

841
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: I mean, here's a.

842
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: Guy sheer as a sheer runner has been one of

843
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: the best in the league. Yeah, Lamar, and he kind

844
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: of neck and neck and so, you know, and obviously

845
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: has the arm talent. You know, he's a very talented guy.

846
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: So like if Russell Wilson were to go down with

847
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: an injury or just not be playing well, you have

848
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: a high level backup who you had to trade a

849
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: Day three pick to get and he's still on his

850
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: rookie deal. Like, it's not a super expensive deal. It's

851
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: a whole lot less than what Darnold got. Yeah, you know,

852
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: and Jameis Winston got and some of these other guys

853
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: got right, and our guy Joe Flacco, which, by the way,

854
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: the fact that the Browns went with Jamis ever Joe

855
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: Flacco to me is a bigger head scratcher.

856
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one.

857
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: I mean whatever. They just think Jameis Winston is a

858
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: better quarterback at this point.

859
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: That was.

860
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 4: That's it. But which I guess that's a good reason

861
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: to go that way if you feel that way.

862
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think that it's a move for twenty twenty

863
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: four that makes a lot of sense.

864
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 4: I don't really beyond that.

865
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: The Steelers are still in a precarious, kind of weird

866
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: long term situation at quarterback. The reports out of Pittsburgh

867
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: are that Russell Wilson wants to get a long term

868
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: both sides want to work on a long term deal

869
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: after this season.

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Speaker 4: For Russell Wilson, how long that is at his age.

871
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

872
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: The thing that the Steelers are really in a fortunate

873
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: situation on is that he's playing for the VET minimum

874
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is right now, So like that has enabled

875
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: them enabled them to do so much more. You have

876
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: a guy of his pedigree and you're not paying them

877
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: hardly anything.

878
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: You're paying Didley squad. Like that just worked out really

879
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: well for them.

880
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, because Denver's paying him a ton of

881
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: money and so he just money didn't really matter for

882
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: him with this contract.

883
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: That's yeah, I'm a little bit salty about Yeah.

884
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: I mean as ray for Ravens fans, like you don't

885
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: don't love seeing the Steelers get two potentially high end

886
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: quarterbacks on their team.

887
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 3: You just don't like that scenario.

888
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 4: That's like the quarterback's been what's been holding them back.

889
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, now now.

890
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: They come with questions like they do come with They've

891
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: almost have been good the last two years.

892
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: But the question is, like whether these quarterbacks take Pittsburgh

893
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: from what the past several years has been like a

894
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: fringe playoff team. They made the playoffs last year, they

895
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: haven't really been a championship team. They've kind of been

896
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: stuck for a while in this like around five hundred, Like, hey,

897
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: they keep you know, having a better being above five hundred.

898
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins never had a losing season. Yeah, Well, like

899
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: they haven't had like a really good team in a

900
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: long time either, Like they have not gone as they

901
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: have not been as dangerous as the Ravens. They keep

902
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: beating the Ravens, which the Ravens need to change that. Yeah,

903
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: but like they have not been as good a team

904
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: as Baltimore for some time now. Yeah, they've been in

905
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: this like middle of the road pack where you're not

906
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: losing enough games to get a high draft pick and

907
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: draft the quarterback in the future, So you're getting these

908
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: like band aid kind of guys.

909
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

910
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: I think that's like kind of what Russell Wilson and

911
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: Justin Field's going into the final year of his contract

912
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: kind of.

913
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: Are at this point. They're they kind of another band

914
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: aid for them.

915
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: Now, if Russell Wilson was playing really well and be like, oh,

916
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: this is a guy, this is the player who was

917
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: this great player, super Bowl winning quarterback, Like man, like

918
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: now you feel really good. This guy went for a

919
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: million draft picks two years ago, right exactly.

920
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's kind of like those band aids that come

921
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: with like the action figures on him and like the

922
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: Superman or the Batman band aids.

923
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: You know, they the pictures like those are upgrade.

924
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: It's an upgrade band aid.

925
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: This is not generic exactly, This is not a generic

926
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: band aid. And honestly the same for Justin Fields. Like

927
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is was what number three overall pick two

928
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: years ago?

929
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: Three years ago? Yeah, I mean super high pick.

930
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: So you get the chance to have these two quarterbacks

931
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: that have questions but also have a very high ceiling

932
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 2: and obviously Raven stands hope they don't reach that ceiling.

933
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 2: And in terms of other moves around the division, going

934
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: back to Cleveland, the big move that they made as well.

935
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Speaker 4: Just sorry to close that out.

936
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Speaker 1: I mean, Justice Field, Justin Fields isn't going to see

937
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: the unless Russell Wilson's stinkser gets injured. Right, So, like

938
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: you might not even really get much of an indicator

939
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: indicator on Justin Fields and his ability to become the

940
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: guy that the Bears thought he was gonna be. Yeah,

941
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: you may not know, right, He's a backup, Like it'd

942
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: be one thing if he was your starter and you're like,

943
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: all right, let's see, let's take a flyer on this guy.

944
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 4: We're not going to be very good. Let's see what

945
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: he gets.

946
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Put him out there and see if, like in a

947
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: different situation outside of Chicago and the mess that that

948
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: was offensively, whether he can be our long term guy.

949
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't really have a path to get that evaluation.

950
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're looking at it in practice.

951
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: Practice is the evaluation exactly, but that's not just an

952
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: evaluation yet.

953
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: And then in terms of the Browns, they go out

954
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: and the big move they made was the addition Jerry Judy.

955
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: They trade for Jerry Judy from the Broncos and then

956
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: they gave him a contract extension. So they've got Jerry Judy,

957
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: They've got a Mary Cooper, obviously, Sean Watson's coming back.

958
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 3: They've gotten better, I think, and that all three.

959
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: The problem here is that all three to everyone's get better.

960
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: Everyone is getting better in the division. And it was

961
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: already I believe, the best division in football, and you

962
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: just add good players to it. I don't love adding

963
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: good players to an already incredibly difficult division, That's correct.

964
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Speaker 2: I remember I forget when it was asked, but John

965
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Harball was asked the question last year, like do you

966
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: love like playing it the hardest division football? It's great, right,

967
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, that's great. I love it. It's

968
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: I really prefer that to have a difficult game every

969
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: single week we're playing in the division, and that's the case.

970
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: I think that Cincinnati is gonna be Cincinnati is gonna

971
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: be better with Joe Burrow back, and they're gonna be

972
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna be great. And then you look at the

973
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: Browns and the Steelers and they've gotten more dangerous.

974
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: Like Cincinnati's had a decent free agency too. I thought

975
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: they're they're moved to bring in Trent Brown, you know,

976
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: whether he plays opposite Orlando Brown junior or whatnot. They

977
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: it's a pretty darn good tackle duo Trent Brown and

978
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: ORLANDA Brown junior. And then you have Sheldon Rankins is

979
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good defensive tackle they brought in. They obviously

980
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: got Gino Stone Zach Moss at running back, so like

981
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: they've made some moves too. Yeah, I think Cincinnati certainly

982
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: got better. And then Cleveland outside of Jerry Judy, they

983
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: brought back Zadarius Smith, signed Jordan Hicks. Like they've they've

984
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: made some quality editions as well.

985
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 4: So I don't like it. It's tough.

986
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a tough division.

987
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a tough division, there's no question about that,

988
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: and but I still think the Raves are pretty good themselves,

989
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: so absolutely, As always, you can email us at the

990
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Uh. We are

991
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: gonna be continuing to break things down and we're hoping

992
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: to catch up with Arthur Mallett when he is here

993
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: to officially sign his contracts, so stay tuned for that.

994
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