1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Ron and An one person in this who I'm speaking 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: overdrow on a bid wheel bearing for eight months and 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: almost killed himself and the wheel fell off. But we 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: won't mention anybody in my name. Who's that? I can't 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: begin to tell you. How are you? Mike? By the way, 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: Mike gets your car better now, the car Doctor, Dr Melissa, 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: thanks for taking the time with us today. This is 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Mike's girlfriend, our board operator. Do you know how bad 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: that wheel bearing was on his car? I had no idea. 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: You should have focused to his mother or myself so 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: that I can give him a hard time. Yeah, that's good, 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: because she may have. You may be the first patience 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: she gets to work on. Welcome to the radio home 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If you're a mechanics giving you 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: take your falls at eight five five five six and now. 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: I would never want to belong to any club that 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: would have someone like me. Remember running an awful lot 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: of responses this week in commentary about a couple of things. 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: Number one, the last week we were talking about in 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: one of the hours, the call came in about flashing 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: break lights and are they illegal or aren't they? And 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: an awful lot of you have come back to me 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: and I appreciate it that they are flashing, and why 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: didn't you know it? This week as I'm driving along, 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: I just happened to be behind the car with flashing 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: brake lights. You're right, that is really annoying, especially at 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: night when it's dark, and I was actually behind more 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: than a few. All of a sudden, I'm seeing flashing. 33 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: I saw flashing third break lights and flashing all the 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: break lights. It was like so crazy, and it's done 35 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: on fairly new vehicles. You just wonder, are they factory 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: that way? But they can't be, because I believe them 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: to be illegal to It can't be the safest thing 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: in the world. You're you're riding behind somebody and they're 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: they're they're hitting you with an l ed bonk bonk bonk, 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, bright red light. Um, you know it's like 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: bong bong bonk. Look deeply into my eyes, you know, 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: you think about Dracula, you know, to walk through. Yeah, so, 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: but I've seen that, so it is illegal. I wanted 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: to establish that right off the bat. But I really 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about electric cars as we kick off 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: this hour of the Car Doctor, because this is up. Boy, 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: is this a hot button topic. You guys went nuts 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: last week talking about electric cars and how you know 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's sort of like if if we go 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: to an all electric car society. I think we're gonna 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: bring back the horse. I think that's what's gonna happen. 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: It's and we're gonna have to deal with. Yeah, it's 53 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna be like bonanza, rightandan Uh, you know, good for you, 54 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: I think, because remember this, the power to what's being 55 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: produced and what we drive on the roads with is 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: really in the hands of the American motorists. It really is. 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: If you don't buy it, they're not gonna be able 58 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: to afford to make it anymore. So if you don't 59 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: think electric cars the way to go, just don't buy one. 60 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: It's that simple. I think the problem the start here. 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: I think there is a need for electric vehicles. There 62 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: are certain vehicles and I said this over and over again, 63 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: and I'm going to continue to say it that there 64 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: are certain places where an electric vehicle makes a surrence. 65 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: I think I think every mail vehicle in the continental 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: United States should be converted to electric if it isn't already, 67 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: because they know the route. The guy's got nineties stops, 68 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: he's you know, four blocks this way, four blocks that way. 69 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: They know the route. You could if you had to 70 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: plug in some sort of quick recharge post while the 71 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: mailman is taking his lunch break or male person, mail person, 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: male person, mailman, male person, mailman, mail woman, whatever, um, 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: while they're taking their break and charge the car, charge 74 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: the mail truck for fifteen minutes. That makes sense to me. 75 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: Garbage trucks if we can. Hey listen, if we're going 76 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: to all electric, that means garbage trucks, ambulances, eighteen wheelers. 77 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: Everything's gonna have to be an electric vehicle at some point, right, So, 78 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: if if we're gonna live in this star trek fantasy, 79 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: if everything's gonna happen, you know, beat me up, baby, 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: um make everything. But to have the average con sumer 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: vehicle electric never gonna happen. It's not going to happen. 82 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: Get over it, all right, and I can prove it 83 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: to you and here, Okay, tomorrow, and I'm only gonna 84 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: I guess I have to keep saying this every week. 85 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: Tomorrow everything goes electric. In five years, everything in ten years, 86 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: everything goes electric. Show me the infrastructure. How we charging 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: these things? All? Right? Where are we getting the material 88 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: to make the batteries from? I've got more than a 89 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: few pieces of paper on my desk. Here, here's here's 90 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: from Stephen Virginia. Listen to the points Steve brings up. 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: And Steve's a regular listener to the show for years, 92 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: and and we don't know, we see eyed eye on everything. 93 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: But you know what, I respect everybody's opinion, so by 94 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: all means, keep the comments coming. Ron. I've read that 95 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: in a year or two will be entering a solar 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: minimum due to the lack of sun spots. I don't 97 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: understand the relationship. I just know I've just read that 98 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. The bottom line is that we 99 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: are supposed to get really cold and the polarized will 100 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: re freeze, negating the danger of sea level rise. We 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: will need fossil fuels to stay warm. Steve, I'd like 102 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: to see proof of that. I'm not saying it's not possible, 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: but I haven't read this yet. Here's the other points. 104 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: The all electric and hybrid cars require lithium for batteries. 105 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: This I know that comes mainly from Columbia and Africa, 106 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: which is true. It has to be mined, refined, and 107 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: assembled into batteries. Agreed. The carbon dioxide the people are 108 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: complaining about emitted during all of this is greater than 109 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: that emitted during the manufacture of conventional vehicles. Yet tom okay. Further, 110 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: the carbon dioxide emitted during plug and charging all electric cars, 111 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: except by renewal processes solar within the hydro electric or 112 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: by nuclear isn't accounted for by EPA measurements that tout 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: in ner ly zero emissions of carbon dioxide. The grid 114 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: infrastructure problems you mentioned are correct to sum it up, 115 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: and I think this makes sense. All electric is possibly 116 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: useful for golf carts, indoor folkist forkless and for owners 117 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: who can set up a large enough solar arry to 118 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: charge the car, and that would most likely require two 119 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: electric cars, one on charge, all the others being used indoor. 120 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: Sufficient recapacity to store electricity during the day and charge 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: the one electric car at night. The capital cost of 122 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: all this must be considered and compared with the cost 123 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: of a conventional car. And to sum it up, as 124 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Steve puts it, electric cars are a solution in search 125 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: of a problem, and I agree with that. I think 126 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: we're trying to create a nightmare that we're gonna spend 127 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: decades trying to climb out of. I think Tesla's got 128 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: some potential. I think he's got some right ideas. I 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: think we're going in the right direction, but we're gonna 130 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: take it too far, too fast, too much. It doesn't 131 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: make sense because here's the issue. Ten years from now, 132 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: it's an electric it's an electric car society out there. 133 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about my wife's Explorer, all right, 134 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: I want to take it here. So my wife's Explorer 135 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: has an issue right now. And this is a fairly 136 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: simple guest lean engine, you know, internal combustion traditional car 137 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: where the radio, climate control and navigational display bocks up, 138 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: it stops working. Cars got seventeen thousand miles on it. 139 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: Of course it's under warranty. Ford has an issue with these. 140 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Ford admits there's an issue with these. And I'm not 141 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: bashing forward by any stretch of the imagination. Show me 142 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: a car company that's got perfect software, and I'll show 143 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: you the one that's not non existent. Again something in fantasyland. Okay, 144 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: so we have to follow procedure. It goes into the 145 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Ford dealer. Very nice people over here at the local 146 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Ford dealer in Malwa doing a heck of a job 147 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: trying to get this resolved. There's a bulletin that's that 148 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: came out three months ago that talks about this particular problem. 149 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: They follow the bulletin, they install the software. All right, 150 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't work. It actually locks it up and makes 151 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: it so now it's completely non functional. So there's a 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: there's this is sort of like you know, your relatives 153 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: at the holiday. Somebody's not getting along with somebody something. 154 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: Something is just there's an argument brewing. So they call up. 155 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: They talked to Ford. Ford engineers respond in a very 156 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: timely manner in my opinion, and they write software not 157 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: just for my car, but for others because there's reports 158 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: of around the country. Now imagine this around the country, 159 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: all the four dealers, how many eighteen explorers are going 160 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: through this. They wrote software in the matter of four 161 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: days two fix the situation. On the fifth day, God 162 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: created Heaven and Earth. I was on the seventh and 163 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: four decided they released the software and they said, hey, 164 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: this will work. Put it in. It worked well, sort of. 165 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: It only lasted two days and now it's doing some 166 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: really weird, bizarre things that it just My point is, 167 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: and it's going back next week. They'll fix it. They're 168 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: going to change the module. They think there's a they 169 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: think there's an interference problem with the software and the 170 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: age of the computer module and some of the components 171 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: built within. The point is, look at the technology clash, 172 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: look at what's going on here. All right, this isn't 173 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: nuts and bolts, and know what a traditional mechanic would 174 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: be working on. And now we're going to electrify this. 175 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna take this and make this a completely 176 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: electric vehicle. And how many computers and modules do you 177 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: think are involved in an electric car versus an internal 178 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: combustion engine with all the safeguards and and and safety 179 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: factors and things that they have to put in there 180 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: to maintain you're driving you're you're driving the enterprise, okay, 181 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: around on four wheels, and you're gonna convince me that 182 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: you really believe in the next five to ten years. 183 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: We can make this a better process than what we've 184 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: got going on now with internal combustion. Been in the 185 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: business forty five years. One thing I know about cars 186 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: is there imperfect and they're always going to be imperfect 187 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: because A it's a machine. B there's people involved in 188 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: building them. And see, we operate them on some of 189 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: the worst environments and you could possibly have Think of 190 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: the temperature extremes. You've got to build an electric car 191 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna work in Alaska, Florida, Kelly, Alifornia, the northeast, Chicago, Texas. 192 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: Think of the heat, the temperature of the weather. And 193 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna make all this work, and you're gonna find 194 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: enough material to make batteries, and you're going to get 195 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: these from countries that all of a sudden just are 196 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: willing to give it up at a fair price. You're 197 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: going to create another Middle East situation. The politics of this, 198 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: the world scenario of this is staggering. I don't see it. 199 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: I here here's what we're being offered. I just this 200 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: was written up in PC magazine today. Citron, I remember 201 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: Citron crt r O, Yes, Citrons, Citron, Citron and whatever 202 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: we called them, Citron's We called them John because that's 203 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: what we thought they were back in the day. All right, 204 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm believe me. This wasn't the best thing to come 205 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: out of France. Citron's electric car costs a month to operate. 206 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: The Tiny Amy. This is at a PC magazine today. 207 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: The Tiny Amy can be driven by teenagers but only 208 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: see its two people, who needs to be recharged every 209 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: forty three miles. Citron is set to launch an electric 210 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: car later this year that cost two dollars a month 211 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: to drive, but it comes with big limitations, as Autoblog 212 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: reports to Troyn and unveil the Amy one concept electric 213 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: car last year, but on March thirty, pre orders will 214 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: open across Europe for the road ready version, with its 215 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: name shortened to Amy. And that's what we're gonna produce, 216 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: and that's what you people are gonna buy, and you're 217 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: gonna be happy with it until forty three miles. Start 218 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: calculating your week route and how far you're going and 219 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: how far you can't go. Figure out how far forty 220 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: three miles is. I'll be backed open the garage doors 221 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: right after this. I'm running any in the car. Doctor, Yeah, Tom, 222 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: you had to I was gonna say, and now the 223 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists and me comes out someplace. Somebody or some 224 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: group has an agenda to push these electric cars. What 225 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: happens when they start taking the regular internal combustion cars 226 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: off the market and you can't buy that internal combustion 227 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: engine that you want. What you're supposed to do not 228 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: go buy an electric car? Well, so somebody's pushing this 229 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: on somebody. Somebody is somebody is really pushing this through 230 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: and it it makes no sense, you know. And then 231 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: we've got to talk about big oil. We're gonna go 232 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: over Tom. I'm sorry, We've got to talk about big oil, 233 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: all right. You know this is like this is like 234 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: telling the guys that run the garbage contracts they're out. 235 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: You know these boys, these aren't exactly the boy scouts. 236 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: All right, Um, you know it's not gonna happen. I 237 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: just don't see it. Big oils all of a sudden 238 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: they can't sell oil and gasoline, And then where's it 239 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: gonna come from. I I think we're headed towards the disaster. 240 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: I really do. We're being were being driven there. So um, anyway, 241 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: that's my conversational thoughts about electric car sorry. If I 242 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: got a little over the top, I'll make it up 243 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: to you. We'll do a good show the rest of 244 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: the rest of the next two hours. So Ron and 245 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor I'll be back right after 246 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: this need advice on how to maintaining that classic g 247 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: t O. Ron is the guy five five five zero 248 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, let's get on 249 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: over and talk to Mike and New Hampshire. Mike, thanks 250 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: for calling it today. We appreciate your time. How canna help? 251 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, thanks for taking a call. Um. 252 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: I've got a three fifty late Model seven three Diesel 253 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: I've been having a little bit of a brain buster 254 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: with and it's been going on for about five months now. 255 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: It's more of an annoyance than anything. UM. On left turns, 256 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: it clicks up in the front end. UM. I've looked 257 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: around to try and see if there's anything rubbing or 258 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: interfering in the bottom. There's nothing with the drive shaft 259 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: or anything like that. It doesn't matter if it's a 260 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: two will drive for will drive. UM, it just makes 261 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: a clicking noise and it almost sounds like, uh, plastic 262 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: on plastic manual. Somebody manuals MIKE or automatic hubs. Manual 263 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: hubs manual hubs you have to get out and what 264 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: do you have a lever in the truck? And then 265 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: you have to manually lock the hubs. Right? Does locking 266 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: or unlocking the hubs and two wheel drive make a difference? No? Um, 267 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: And you were gonna say something finished, please, I'm sorry. 268 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: So basically that it doesn't matter whether or not it's 269 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: tool drive off will drive, um, whether the hubs are 270 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: engaged or disengaged. Um. And I did notice all this 271 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: happening after the transfer case was replaced. Um, In the 272 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: transfer case was a used transfer case. But the clicking 273 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: noise is from up front? Yeah, up front. It almost 274 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: sounds like it's coming up that like at the hubbs 275 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: right up but that you joint or something. But what 276 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: if we disconnect the front drive shift and take it 277 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: for a rod. I've done that. Um. Taking the drive 278 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: shaft out doesn't do anything, so it's it still makes 279 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: the noise. Yeah, so it still makes the noise with 280 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: the drive shaft out. Yeah, okay, take the drive shaft out, 281 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: and how about taking off the front hubs, the you know, 282 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: the switches, the locks. I have not done that. Um. 283 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: Those were just replaced with Warren my own markers. I 284 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: don't know, well what seven months ago. What I'm what 285 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do is just see is there something. 286 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make this as basic a vehicle as 287 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: I can, so it becomes, you know, a front end 288 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: with two wheel bearings in it, persade all right, to 289 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: make sure there's nothing there. The other the other comment 290 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: I want to I want to think about with you 291 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: is what do the front axle joints look like? Could 292 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: I have a could I just have a plain old 293 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: bead front you joint? Both you joints were replaced the 294 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: beginning of the season because I plow up here in 295 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, so that was regular maintenanced. And you've looked 296 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: at him. They're wet with grease. There's no sign or 297 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: rust powder coming out of anything. No um and uh 298 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: yeah that grease. Um. And come to think of it, 299 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: I did take those hubs out and drive it and 300 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: it made no difference to you. And it made no difference. 301 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: But did you I have posted this pretty much all 302 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: over the place. I made a video, I've I've gone 303 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: on a couple of farms in different different researching areas. 304 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: And I've talked to some of you who has eight 305 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles in their seventh three and he has 306 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: never experienced this before in his life. So and it 307 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: sounds like plastic on plastic. So the easy stuff, something 308 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: interfering with the dust shield has been eliminated. And and 309 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: you're certain that it's up front, like dust shields in 310 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: breaks are up by like the fans, just shield as 311 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: in breaks. No, I could look at it again, uh 312 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: and try and pull him back to see if that 313 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: makes it different. And one of the things that I 314 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: was I'm one of the things that I was thinking 315 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: was the fan shroud itself for the fan going because 316 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: the only plastic up there is the fan shroud, the fan. 317 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: And then also your your reservoir, your overflow, like what 318 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: could you you know, how close is the fan to 319 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: the well, let's let's have a theoretical conversation. I have 320 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: seen on older vehicles, and I've seen this on trucks, 321 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: not just orge, but you know in general general stuff 322 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: that breaks where, especially on a plow vehicle. I'm thinking 323 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: about what if the front radiator brace, if the bolts 324 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: that hold it to the frame rail have rotted out, 325 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: and somehow it's allowing the nose to shift and allowing 326 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: the fan to hit the plastic shroud so like the 327 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: radiator support and then the Robert bromins that hold the 328 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: radiator in the place those brackets broke. It's it's shifting 329 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: on a hard turn. What if you took something and 330 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: marked the inside of the suspect fan shroud um, you know, 331 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: take a Let's make something a non obtrusive you know, 332 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: paint or yellow chalk, kids, yellow chalk, right, be easy 333 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: enough to wipe off. What if you mark the inside 334 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: of the fan shroud with with yellow chalk or the 335 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: areas where the fan might possibly be hitting and do 336 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: that to the brake, does shields if you can, and 337 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: and take it for a ride, CBC. Anything there at least, 338 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: then we're eliminating it. Try that. Call me back next week. 339 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: Let's fix this. I'm run any of the car Doctor, 340 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Don't go away, welcome back, 341 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: Why don't any of the car doctor. Let's keep the 342 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: phones going. Let's get over to Karen, Florida six Pontiac. Hi, Karen, 343 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: welcome to the Car Doctor. How can I help? Hi? Yes, 344 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: my review. Mirror keeps following off. It stayed one for 345 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: eleven years, and uh, now nobody can put it on 346 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: no mechanics, it doesn't it doesn't stay open now alright, alright, 347 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: they used the kid. So a couple of questions. You 348 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: don't have anything hanging from the rearview mirror? Correct? Oh? Okay, 349 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 1: just checking listen, I asked that question that and how 350 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: much junk do you have on your key ring that 351 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with your mirror? But I always 352 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: ask that question when we're dealing with driveability stuff sometimes 353 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: because you'll be amazed what the weight of certain things 354 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: will do. So when you look at the windshield where 355 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: the mirror used to be, is it still smooth and flat? Okay? 356 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: In other words, in other words, when the mirror fell off, 357 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: it didn't take a small piece of the wind shield 358 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: with it, correct, Okay, so there's no large gap number 359 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: number one? Number two? You know when you get the 360 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: car back all right, and you know they you go in, 361 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: they fix it and they use the kit. Uh. And 362 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: there's a conversation about kids, because some kids work better 363 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: than others. Is also you know, the age of the kit. 364 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: You can have something to do with this, but you're 365 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna tell me you've you've had this done multiple times 366 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: and it still doesn't work. Correct? Yeah, So you know 367 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: the first thought I've I always come back to is 368 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: do they do they give you back the car? Is 369 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: the mirror hon or? Do they tell you to come 370 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: back the next day? Uh? Come back the next day? 371 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: They put the piech on and they need to go 372 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: back the next day and they put the mirror on. Okay? 373 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: And do they have any any solution or any idea 374 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: and why it keeps happening now? Well, it doesn't have 375 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: a reputation. Glasses glass and the steel bonding plate is 376 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: the steel plate and it should work. What I have 377 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: seen on some cars as they age is the glass 378 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: loses its perosity, It loses the ability to you can't 379 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: glue anything to it. It becomes hard and brittle, and 380 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: it becomes a you know, it's just it's it's not 381 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: like it was when it was new. It's losing its 382 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: resiliency and flexibility. And you're in Florida, correct, Correct? So 383 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: you know I think you guys get a little bit 384 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: of sunshine down there, and the sun kind of beats 385 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: the flesh. Yeah, a little bit, right, you know, it 386 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: beats the flexibility out of the glass. What they could try, 387 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: all right, as a suggestion, because it's they're going to 388 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: be you want to talk to a windshield somebody that 389 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: replaces windshields and maybe step up to one of their 390 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: professional kids. I have seen the difference, you know, I've 391 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: actually talked to my glass guy when he comes in. 392 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Is there a difference between what you use and what 393 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: I use? And he assures me there is because what 394 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: they use is a much stronger um glue. But before 395 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: we before we go crazy glue is absolutely not a 396 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: crazy glue. Won't do it. What what I would suggest 397 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: somebody try is mark out where the rear view mirror 398 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: is going to go, but one step over. So if 399 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: the mirror is directly there, can they come a half 400 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: inch to the left or the right, still giving you 401 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: ability to adjust, all right, but it's a fresh piece 402 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: of the glass, if that makes sense. And then you know, 403 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: put your put the metal puck up there, mar get 404 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: and then pull the metal puck down and take some 405 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: emery or something that's really coarse and rough and scratch 406 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: up the glass. Scratch up the glass where the puck 407 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: is going to sit and what they're going to do 408 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: is what that What what that does is that gives 409 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: the glue um you know, a place to go and 410 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: it it gives it more grip surface in a sense. 411 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: An old glass man showed me this trick years ago, 412 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: and I've tried it in moments of desperation and I've 413 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: I've had it worked every time. And the idea that 414 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: you scratch, you rough up the surface. You now give 415 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: more cling for the glue to be attracted to. Okay, 416 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: I understand, and then put the metal puck up, you know, 417 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: wait the day and again it's it's all in how 418 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: they prep that that that metal puck has to be clean, 419 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: the chemical activator has to go on, and then the 420 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: glue drop has to go on and then right together. 421 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: Very important that they follow that procedure, and I'm sure 422 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: they are, but you know, it's it's it's not the 423 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: most impossible thing in the world. But those are the 424 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: tricks I've picked up over over the years that can 425 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: possibly solve the situation for you. Okay, I'll try and 426 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: find it a windshield. Okay, well, well you know I would. 427 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: I would try. You could try it with a windshield person, 428 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: or you could try it with them again, telling them 429 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: what we said, was telling them what we suggested, what 430 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: I suggested, see if it makes sense to them, if 431 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: they're willing to try. But like I said, a glass 432 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: guy is to me is like the be all final. 433 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: You know, if you have a body shop that you 434 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: go to, ask them who does their glass work? Because 435 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: most body shops sub let glass, uh you know, in 436 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: the industry at this point, and everybody's got a guy. 437 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Maybe he'll even come to the house and do it 438 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: for you. Okay, all right, okay, very good, Thank you, 439 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: very very much. You're very welcome. Thanks for listening to 440 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: the car doctor. You have a good day. Fast. It 441 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: took me several stations times days to get your phone number. Well, 442 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: I I I apologize for that, Karen. I get excited 443 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: sometimes when I give out the number. I'll try to 444 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: slow it down. All right, Thank you you too, Bye bye. 445 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: Um you see Mikey, I get all excited up here. 446 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: We're too busy. Well, you gotta be here for everybody. 447 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: Eight five five, five six zero nine nine zero zero. 448 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: Now if the phones explode, we're in trouble. We've got 449 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: a lot going on today. Let's go to Joe and 450 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: Cranford Joe and Cranford, New Jersey, seven fourth Edge. How 451 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: can I help you today, Joe? Um? Yeah, I've purchased 452 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: a used vehicle and UM light came on the dashboard, 453 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: the wrench and the engine light. And I took him 454 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: my local guy. He told me it was a code 455 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: of p O seven six three and p O nine 456 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: eight oh shift circuit se right, Yeah, it's got transports 457 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: in it, right, So he sent me to a trans guy. 458 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: They told me it was the selenoid. They replaced the selenoid. 459 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: They drove the two blocks, saying came back on. So 460 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm caught in between now, Um, I guess the computer 461 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: or well something else? Are we between the computer and 462 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: and and wiring harness? You know there's there's there's a 463 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: wiring harness there, right, They said something with the ground, right, 464 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking I'll tell you what. Let me pull 465 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: over and take a pause before I rushed this. Don't 466 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere, Joe, I'll be right back. I'm on 467 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor. We're back to talk about 468 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: this when I return. Welcome back. We're on any of 469 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Joe Cranford, New Jersey, you're still there, sir. Correct, 470 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: So P zero P zero seven sixty three and um 471 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: are we're talking about issues within the input and output 472 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: speed sensor circuit, all right, they explained that to you, right, Well, 473 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: they thought it was the selenoid. They were guaranteeing that 474 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: the selenoids would be part of it with the trans. 475 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: I did not have any banging in the trans or 476 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: all I old school, or slipping in the trans. So 477 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: they said it definitely had to be electrical. Right, well, 478 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: it should be electrical. But okay, so let's let's let's 479 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: look at it like this. If if I recall correctly 480 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: the first step on the flow chart. And I'm not 481 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: a flow chart guy. I don't really like flow charts. 482 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: I think they'll lead you down the path. But I'm 483 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: just trying to explain. So we understand how the circuit works. 484 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: The computer is looking for inputs from the input shaft 485 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: and the output shaft of the trans and it has 486 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: to know how fast things are turning in order to 487 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: when and where to apply different shifts. Solonoids and a 488 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: solinoid is basically a light switch. It's on and it's off, 489 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: all right, So there are ways, you know, we can 490 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: hook up a scan tool. Look at him putting output sensors. 491 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: Do we have him putting output? Yes? Okay, move on 492 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: to the next thing. No, why don't we all right? 493 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: And you know that's sort of step one. Step two 494 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: is well, we have it, but we're not getting proper response. 495 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: The reason that the codes are setting is because the 496 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: computer is commanding a solid annoy too on raw off 497 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: or one on one off type of a scenario, and 498 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: it doesn't get proper response back. All right. If you 499 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: flick the light switch in your house to turn on 500 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: the front porch light and the light doesn't go on, 501 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: how many possible things are wrong? Right? Right? Um? Balb 502 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: fault switch switch bulb right, same thing. So yeah, we 503 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: could have beat a bad solenoid pack, all right, but 504 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: we could also have problems within the wiring harness or 505 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: the connectors, you know. Could we have a bad PCM. Yeah, 506 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: but I'd be paying more attention to the other things 507 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: first I would check. I would check the things I 508 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: could check. Process of elimination, all right, the fact that 509 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: it comes back right away. It's a broken car, right, 510 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's got to be able to be diagnosed. Now, 511 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: I will say this, this generation Edge SEVENS eight I 512 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: I read and see a lot of these particular faults, 513 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: and if I'm not mistaken, I believe Ford has a 514 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: harness repair kit for this particular problem because I believe 515 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: they were there was a common there's a common denominator 516 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: here that I'm trying to remember. This is fifteen years ago, uh, 517 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: in model years. But I would almost, I would almost, 518 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: it would almost behoove you to, you know, check in 519 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: at your local Ford dealer. Here's the problem, my god, 520 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: or have you done that already? I didn't check with 521 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: a Ford dealer from the transmission place and my regular mechanic. 522 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: They did check the wiring to it. They said they 523 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: had um let your to the wires. So he said 524 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: the wires were good. So the wires are good, that 525 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: the solid raid pack is good. So what do they 526 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: think the fault is? Um they're thinking it's in the computer, okay? 527 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: Is that what they wanted to Is that what they 528 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: want to change? Next? Well, that's that's the next thing 529 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: to change. Yeah, And they're trying to do the reset 530 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: and if they're they're wondering why the reset's not holding. 531 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: So with with changing the solenoid the wrench light did 532 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: go off with the engine light was on. Okay, so 533 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: they so they've changed something or they've improved on something. Right, Well, 534 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: what I mean right, what I'm saying is when I 535 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: say they've changed something, changing the solenoid set up caused 536 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: something to change. It's just it's just it's a multilayered issue. 537 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: What they were telling me. It was going I guess 538 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: that's a five speed trans or six speed six. It 539 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: was going from one to three, right, it was hitting 540 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: to a safety mode, was going in that was given 541 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: the light right it skips too, So now now this 542 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: is possible. Maybe the solenoid is a short. All right, 543 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: there's a short across the windings of the solenoid and 544 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: that took out the driver in the PCM. Right, that's 545 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: always possible, Listen, wouldn't replacing the solenoid corrected? No, replacing 546 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: the solon right here? If if if you had a 547 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: light bulb which worded and melted the switch on the wall, 548 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: and you put a new light bulb in. Yeah, so 549 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: it's one step further right, well, and because it's a 550 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: light bulb and a switch, So if the solenoid was 551 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: shorted and a computer can only stand so much current 552 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: draw through a circuit. All right, if by definition of 553 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: a short, a definition of an electrical short is we 554 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: bypass the electrical load. And now we have direct you know, 555 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: negative to positive or positive to negative, whichever school of 556 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: scientific thought you want to apply across. If we if 557 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: we look at Alms law, right, it all comes back 558 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: to that Alms law a million years ago. It still works, right. 559 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: If we lower resistance, it changes current flow. Right, And yeah, 560 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: if a computer is designed to operate on less than drawing, 561 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we change resistance and current floor 562 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: current flow goes through the roof. Okay, guess what We're 563 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna pop that circuit in the piece? Yea. If they 564 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: checked the trans vehicle harness and they check the trans 565 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: um connector on the ford, you know, so right, and 566 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: you know they say that's the heart of the vehicle. 567 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, if they've if they've tested the harness and 568 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: they've got power i'm sorry, power signal ground and they're 569 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: content with the harness, and they've massage the harness and 570 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: the vehicle wasn't in an accident, and all the other 571 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: little boogeyman that can be in there, and they're down 572 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: to a pcm. Then you know what, they've done, the 573 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: proper diagnosis, and they've gone as far as they can 574 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: go without trying that PCM. And I think that's the 575 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: next step. Let them do it, and let's uh, let's 576 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: let them let them call the shots. It sounds like 577 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: they're onto something, and call me back next week. Let 578 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: me know what happens. Eight five five zero zero zero. 579 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: Run any of the car doctor coming back right after this, 580 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Gary and Delaware. Gary, some comments 581 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: you want to make. Yeah, UM had a two thousand 582 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: thirteen volts like in diesel as the top of the line. UM. 583 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: I've since sold it back to Volkswag and the game 584 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: a deal couldn't refuse. But it did that what you 585 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier where they think the entertainment system 586 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: froze up and uh it. I probably had seventeen thousand 587 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: miles on it before it ever happened. It was a 588 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: real cold night. We were been down Florida coming back 589 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: and we're in Carolinas. It was blow twenty that morning. 590 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: About five minutes out the interstate got on the innerstate 591 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: thing phrases up. When radio didn't respond to anything, and 592 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: of course I'm pushing buttons and messing with it. Finally 593 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: pulled off, shut the motor off. I think I even 594 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: one time pulled a disconnected battery. But anyway, bottom line was, 595 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: it did it several times that morning, and I finally 596 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: learned it took about eight minutes for it to run 597 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: this cycle and reset itself. And the more I pushed 598 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: the buttons and tried to do stuff, the longer it took. 599 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: But if I just left it alone, it took sixty 600 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: eight messy set itself. I put a hundred thousand miles 601 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: in that car annoying. Did that one other time, and 602 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: where they nobody was able. Did you ever take an 603 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: in for diagnosis or repair? Nobody was every Well, it 604 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: just happens. One time I was just I was on 605 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: the way over to the dealer over Laurel, Maryland for 606 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: the one of the UH maintenance things where they did 607 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: to all changes prior to thirty or five thousand miles, 608 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: and it did it on the way over there, and 609 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: I said something to him about it, and I got to, 610 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, the impression they didn't know what the hell 611 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: it was. So I just saw, leave well enough alone, 612 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: and it never did it again. But ninety nine thousand, 613 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: nine hundred some miles in that car for us sold 614 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: the back and uh, never never did it. So my 615 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: takeaway is, let it runs course, don't touch anything and 616 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: see how that works. Well, and I get that one day, 617 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: but let me sterial days, terial times. Let me jump 618 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: in here with you, Gary, if you want the next 619 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: time that happens on that car or any other car, 620 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: what about your cell phone? Pull over, take out your 621 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: cell phone, take a video of it. Everybody's got a 622 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: little video. I'm around their cell phone. Take a picture 623 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: of what the car is doing. That's what I did. 624 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: I took a video of it. Walked into the Ford 625 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: dealer but it actually put it on a nice little 626 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: USB stick for him, attached my business card to it 627 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: and said here, fix this and she said, what's the 628 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: condition here? Watched the video and she did and they 629 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: worked from that. So that can work. But I get 630 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: where you're coming from, Brothers. Sometimes well enough alone is 631 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: the way to go too. But if it's under warranty, 632 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: let's fix it. And uh that leaves them no choice. 633 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: There's got to be a solution and a reason. Hey, 634 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: real quick to close out the hour. Anybody remember that 635 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: back in September. This was just tended to me. I've 636 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: forgotten about this. This came to us from a listener 637 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: about the test of the police car that ran out 638 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: of power during the car chase in California. They were 639 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: involved in a high speed chase. They were doing a 640 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: d and chasing somebody in the fact that it was 641 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: doing a hun just absolutely amazes me. And they got 642 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: down to six miles to go and the car ran 643 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: out of electricity and they had a call on the 644 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: gas powered cars to catch the bad guy. What are 645 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: we headed for? I'm not in any of the car. 646 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: Doctor reminding you, mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you. 647 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: She was to do